/vr/ - Retro Games

>>2124663
Also:
Can't find your way around a city?
Ask the locals for locations.
If you ask repeatedly they mark the spot on your map so invest a bit of time in repeated clicking and you can get everything mapped by the locals.

>taken from that FAQ:

Quality:
Every shop and guild has a quality attached to it. You will know the quality of the shop by the description it gives you when you open the door.

1. "Rusty relics..." is the lowest quality shop. They will carry the lowest quality items; however, the prices will also be the lowest and they will pay top dollar for your stuff!
2. "Sturdy shelves..." is below average.
3. "...adequate construction" is average. You'll have an average chance of finding the better items here, and you'll get standard prices for buying and selling.
4. "...skillfully crafted" is above average.
5. "Incense and soft music..." is the highest quality shop. You'll have the best chance of finding better items here; however, you will pay more for them,
and they will give you less for your items when selling.

So as you can see, you'll want to remember the Rusty Relics and the Incense shops. Rusty Relics are best for selling, and Incense are best for buying--or, stealing! The same rules apply for guilds; the higher quality guilds often pay more for quests.

What are the cons of becoming a werewolf/wereboar? I got a crazy stat boost and can now wield my sword like a chainsaw and I love it.

>>2124673

How do I not get caught as a burgler? I just want to run around the world and take everyone's money

>>2124687
It may seem pretentious to post screenshots of that FAQ but the guy describes everything pretty well so I keep doing it.

>>2124695
Thanks.

Why do I walk slow as fuck when I'm outside?

I feel like playing as a mage. I never did that because I always thought "mages r gay".

You guys got any advice? Because last time I went head first into DF I got fucked up by everything.

>>2124673
get the ring of Hercine and you basically get all the advantages with no disadvantage
its pretty OP especially for a Melee character

>>2124687
the weight of the item factors into how easy it is to steal
so while you can pretty easily pickpocket a few gold, taking a sword or something will be difficult
pickpocket and stealth are separate skills and pickpocketing is the skill checked whenever you steal

as well stealth is whenever you are moving at half speed or less (half speed is when crouched) the slower you go the easier it is to sneak, so if you are really adamant about going stealth, switch to cursor movement when you are sneaking because that allows much more fine control and you can go very slow if you want to

you start with a cheap Chameleon spell too so making a class with a little magic buff and illusion as one of your skills can go a LONG way to helping you out
>tfw most of my pictures are in the other thread

>>2124806
start running, you move a decent speed with about 50 Speed give or take, unless you drained your speed skill to dump into other stuff
>>2124838
magic gets to be really OP at low levels, but the starting dungeon is a real pain for it
best bet for starting out is go High Elf and take the critical weakness to Paralysis, since High Elves are immune to Paralysis it does nothing so you get a ton of room to add any advantaged you like. go for increased magery 3x and maybe spell absorption for your AOE spells latter
I usually like to take at least one weapon skill so I always have an alternative when my magica runs low but I cant rest, also I always end up neglecting one magic school or another so why not, throw in short blade and use the background questions to get the Ebony dagger, or whatever you like, be a FistWiz if you want

also to note that platemail has zero effect on magical ability so if you want to be a buff battle mage in full enchanted Daedric then go ahead

in the first dungeon you can fart around a bit but its pretty tough, just save often and rest a lot to regain magicka
and you can just rush out if you want and skip past most of the rooms, just go to a city and join up with the mages guild and maybe a temple as well then start doing quests for easy money and loot, once you level up you can start making spells and enchants which is when you really get OP
>>2124921
you can practice pickpocketing dungeon monsters too for easy leveling with no real risk

Why not Arena?

>>2124996
because it's a different game. I've never played it to be honest and can't say anything about it.

I still think it's hilarious that you have the option to directly access your wagon at the entrance to a dungeon. like a bunch of thieves breaking and entering a home in real life with their van parked in front, carrying off their loot.

>>2124663
http://strawpoll.me/3177449/

So is it me or is argonian the race with the least disadvantages?

How many more rats must be smashed until I get into the fighter's guild.

>>2125116
It's not just you

>>2125119
>wanting to join the fighters guild
lol, get gud you meathead scrub, melee-focused classes are gimped in daggerfall

>>2125146
>melee classes gimped in daggerfall
Say that to my face and not online, then see what happens!

>>2125096
Thats allot of people for such a slow thread.

>>2125146
>gimped
naw
one melee skill + dodging and Crit strike and a minor for Backstab is OP as hell

if you can get into Julianos for Enchanting you are really OP

>>2125195
>killing everyone save one to tell the tale

I like your style

>>2125201
probably linked multiple times in older threads

>>2125298
>>2125201
Got a lot of lurkers too, like me. Well, up until this post.

Most comfy province?

>>2125331
one of the islands

>>2125201
>lvl 4
>56 health
>endurance 70

Missed that "Max Hit Points per Level" box during character creation?

Endurance does nothing to your HP, you need to change how much of a fixed amount your HP increases per level at character creation.

>>2125331
either the Alik'r or the Ilesian Hills
>tfw buying a big house in Blackthorn and taking a trip down to the temple every week

>Daggerfall General
>General
>>>/vg/

>>2125367
>>>/pol/

>>2124996
>Decide to play through Arena
>Get through 17 out of 18 of the long, grueling labyrinth-like dungeons
>Took me about a week and a half
>Pick up last piece of the plot device I need to access the final dungeon
>Go to final dungeon
>Try to open the door
>It says I can't
>Reload save and pick up last piece of plot device again
>Open inventory and its not there
>Realize its bugged and I can't complete the Main Quest

This is why not Arena.

Why is this game so fucking huge

>>2125201
Sup fellow cleric

>>2125539
The most generic name in existence

>>2125572
better than asshat, or niggerfaggot or whatever retarded shit I usually pick. Maybe Smohk Wead if I am being creative.

Do they make games like Daggerfall still?

>>2125619
Not really, but if you want a similar experience you can try out Ultima Underworld/System Shock 1. I always thought the early Elder Scrolls games were inspired by those.

>>2125626
You can make something like Ultima seven in RPG Maker VXA or XP.

>>2125572
To be fair he does have a pretty broad cloak.

>>2125619
yes and no
if you mean large scale and procedural games like this then yea to a degree, stuff like Dwarf Fortress, Minecraft (in a way), Elite Dangerous/the Elite series (for space)

Is this a game where you can actually roleplay a character?

>>2125539
Make that 3. Complete with shit name AND mismatched armor!

>>2125905
Well you can pretty much "live" in the world, so yes.

>>2125905
Depends on what you mean by that. It's doesn't provide the kind of explicit role-playing you find in games like Planescape: Torment or Fallout 1 & 2 with branching dialogue trees and extensive scripted choices to flesh out your characters and alter the story. It's more like... well... there aren't any games to compare it with in terms of role-playing style besides future TES games, and even that's not a good match. Daggerfall drops you in a massive simulated world with a large variety of things to do. Just about anything you choose to do for anyone will carry consequences, primarily in the form of changing your reputation with the hundreds of factions that influence how much certain NPCs like you. A significant portion of the main and random quests have multiple methods of completion, some harder to notice than others. In my opinion, it's the closest thing to a single-player D&D experience that exists in video games, though your dungeon master is afflicted with schizophrenia and attention deficit disorder. It's the best supplement to a healthy imagination.

In short, Daggerfall is not the kind of game that lets you tell the Prince of Sentinel that you think his nose is too big. Instead, it's the kind of game that lets your wereboar lizard woman have a crippling fear of animals, worship the Goddess of beauty, and compulsively steal paintings and books from banks and royalty all around the Iliac Bay so that she may never run out of things to view and read in her boat.

>>2125958
>64 speed
oh god

Daggerfall has really beautiful landscapes, dem snowy nights and rainy afternoons. I wish more games were this pretty.

>>2124670
Question! Are the quality of shops randomly generated when the shop is spawned, or does the game have a pre-assigned quality to the shops of specific towns or game areas?

>>2125201
>>2125539
>>2125958


Clerics up in this bitch! Out of my way Ancient Lich, undead fucking shits!

>>2125958
>>2125201
>>2125539
So do you clerics use a premade class?

>>2126197
It's all pre-assigned. There is a (obviously partial) list of some stores and their qualities on UESP. There's actually not a huge amount of procedural generation in a game of Daggerfall. All the cities and dungeons are the same in every game. It's mostly the NPCs, monsters, loot, and quests that's random.

Almost everything in Daggerfall was built through procedural generation, but they put the final generated world on the disc; not the generator itself.

I've read that once you become a vampire, you will no be able to re-enlist with the Assassin or Thief guilds. If I cure myself of vampirism, via the vampire hunters' quest, will I be re-accepted back into the guilds?

I want to do quests for them at the beginning of the game instead of waiting until after I contract vampirism, but I'm paranoid that I'll meet a vampire and all of my progress will be wiped by an unlucky hit.

Are the only non-generic quests in this game the quests from the main storyline? Are there no other lore-based quests that show NPC or setting stories? Everything else seems to be "kill this thing and receive this gold" without telling me anything else about the world or characters.

>>2126371
Those two guilds' initiation quests cannot be activated twice. So if you leave them for any reason you'll never get back in. This is not true for any other guild, because the rest always have the "Join Guild" option in their buildings.

However, you can feel free to join them so long as you prepare yourself with some source of Cure Disease. You are given a fair amount of warning before the transformation by messages when you sleep. If you cure it before you become a vampire, you need not worry about any consequences.

>>2126373
There is one random quest in the pool that actually rewards you with information about your shipwreck. It is still just a random quest, though.

But you are correct that, besides the main quest and a handful of related optional quests, everything comes from a random pool based on the source of the quest.

The only other source of world building and lore comes from the in-game books. There's a lot of them, and you're missing out if you're not reading them. There is a formatting issue on many of them that causes some words and sentences to run off the pages. If you encounter this, cross reference with TIL, UESP, or some other catalogue of them to be sure you didn't miss any major points. Or you could just spoil yourself and read them all online, but where's the fun in that?

tfw it was full of nightblades

>>2126197
No, that's fixed. I went as far as assigning numbers on the map as soon as I left it for the first time to make sure I will always know its quality.
Will do so again as soon as I start a serious playthrough again (right now I'm just playing around with different characters in the first dungeon to test them out and trying to finish NWN I).

>>2126371
just make sure you don't get a vampire early in the game, there's enough warning. the first night after you contract either disease you get a popup that you are plagued by horrible nightmares. head for the next temple, be it in the city you are in right now or somewhere in the wild (make sure it isn't just some shitty shrine because there isn't anyone to heal you there, shrines are dark blue, real temples are light blue) and get it cured, no problem, go on fixing your guild stuff.

I want that faggot Lucius to release a working DaggerXL beta so I can have a reason to replay the game. I'd feel shitty if I got half way through replaying it and then he released it.

Fuck off, clerics.

Where the merc bros at?

Preferred render options for dosbox? Any neat tricks to make things look slightly more defined?

>>2126543
Burglar reporting in, why work for hire when you can just take take take!

>>2126831
HALT! HALT! HALT! HALT! HALT! HALT! HALT! HALT! HALT! HALT! HALT! HALT! HALT! HALT! HALT!

Can somebody help me pick an OP as fuck custom character build?

I was thinking Nord/High elf or Breton. I like how Khajiit males look, but are they worth while?

What are some good Disadvantages/Advantages to put?

What's the best race?

How do i use/train magic btw

>>2127220
There are no OP character builds in Daggerfall.

Postin' mine

>>2127262
>There are no OP character builds in Daggerfall.

You're literally fucking wrong.

>>2127265
>Class: Custom
>not Texas Ranger

>>2127269
Fuck. Why didn't I think of that...

>>2127268
Fuck off newfag

>>2127273
You're only Level 2. There's still time to change your ways.

How come all the Dunmer NPCs in the unmodded game are just, like... white/olive-skinned, rather than blue?

Some of them don't even have red eyes. Unmodded Barenziah just looks like some human chick.

>>2127273
>NordicTrak Spokesman
>Bizarre Internet Idol
>Yoga Grandmaster
>Bearded Avenger

Fuck, ANYTHING would have been better.

strong nord womyn

[/spoiler]which race looks the best naked?

>>2127302
I h8 how you can't change your class name

>>2127286
git gud. you're the newfag if you can't create an OP char

I literally ran through/1 hit K0'd rats in the first dungeon, and had 80+ stats in everything at level 1

Fucking newfags

>>2127307

I think all of them (except khajiits and argonians) are just palette swaps so it's whatever race has the most appealing faces to you.

but the correct answer is dark elf

>>2127308
>things that never happened

>>2127308
>I literally ran through/1 hit K0'd rats in the first dungeon, and had 80+ stats in everything at level 1

>>2127307
>>2127314
>dark elves

>>2127308
>I literally ran through/1 hit K0'd rats in the first dungeon
In your dreams faggot

>>2127273
>>2127308
>I h8 how you can't change your class name
http://www.uesp.net/wiki/Daggerfall:Files#Save_Game_Editors

>>2127319
>>2127329
>>2127338
>Retards that don't know the press "U" trick in character customization

Way to go, newfags. Bet you also thought the first dungeon was hard, and don't have daedric weapons either.

<Newfags don't have wagons full o' Daedric!

LMFAO!!!
M
F
A
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im sexy and i know it [s4s]

>>2127334

That folder being dumped on /e/ about a year ago was the best thing that ever happened to my collection. There were actually some nice non-erotic pictures in there.

Fucking newfagss

>Tfw lvl 2 with 90 str

Fucking fagggootoototss

>>2127346
that's cheating, tho

>>2127362
it's glitching, actually.

>>2127346
>>2127350
>>2127353
Great so you're a cheater, kill yourself you worthless piece of trash for having to cheat in a game like Daggerfall

>>2127346
When you think that cheating with a simple glitch is a display of your skill, you are only fooling yourself.

>>2127373

It's in the game faggot. Using features they included in the game isn't cheating, especially if you'd already beaten the game legit before. You're just upset because you're a newfag who didn't know about the 'U' glitch or the daedric equipment in the Rusty Ogre Lodge.

>>2127253
>lvl2
>daedric weapons
>everything except END is in 80s

>>2127373
>>2127386
>>2127397
The point is you're newfags.

>>2127389

>They included an invincibility code in Metroid so beating the game with it isn't cheating

>>2127373
>Great so you're a cheater, kill yourself you worthless piece of trash for having to cheat in a game like Daggerfall

This buttmad 14-year-old. Get good, man.

Name was something I misheard whilst making the character.

Mostly been fartarsing around running errands for the temple of Julianos and the Mage's guild, and a large amount of people asking me to steal shit. Though not got a thieves guild offer yet for all my stealing activities, I guess it's because I've not tried to rob stuff with pickpocket and the like.

Have been trying to find a nice town, not too big, with at least one of both the main guilds, my chosen temple and a good store to sell shit to.

Is there a way to check reputations whilst in game? I did tweak mine in character setup but have not been able to find anything since. dunno if I am just being blind or not.

>>2127402
"HURR DURR IT'S CHEATING BECAUSE I AM A JELLY NEWFAG WHO DOESN'T KNOW SHIT LOL"

>>2127408
Unfortunately, you can't view or even get a rough estimate of your reputations without third party tools. The closest you get is checking your rank in guilds you are a member of, since those indicate the minimum of how much rep you have with those particular guilds.

Dagrep is the best tool to view that stuff, listed in >>2127339
Just don't accidentally edit them and save. Unless you want to, I guess.

>>2127412
that looks like a pretty comfy house

>>2127468
Thanks, that's helped.

Also I just saw there's a faction in there called 'the squid'. Wut.

>>2127401
>choosing not to cheat != newfag
Why are you trying to shitpost on /vr/? You'd have to be desperate to do this stuff on a slow ass board like /vr/.

>>2127220
This is the most OP build that I have found:
Best race is propably High Elf for the immunity to paralization.
For disadvantages pick critical weakness to disease and poison. Diseases are fairly rare and I don't think I have ever encountered poison in Daggerfall.
For advantages pick expertise in a weapon of your choice and athleticism + 3x increased magery if you want to cast a lot of spells.
Major skills should be the weapon type you chose expertise in, critical strike and dodge.
For minor skills pick thaumaturgy, alteration and mysticism, these have the best utility spells. Misc skills don't really matter at this point, good choices are the physical skills like running or swimming and other schools of magic you may want to use.
For stats decrease int, wil, end to 40 pers to 30
and increase speed and agility to 75.
Later reroll until you can increase both to 90.
That should be all.

>>2127412
What is this? Do you even know what newfag means? I'm a bit worried anon. I think your need to see a doctor.

>>2127585

You forgot to add critical weakness to paralyzation. The racial immunity overrides it, so you get a large reduction in the skill advancement difficulty bar at no cost.

Holy shit this game is good, thanks /vr/.

Though I can't seem to cast spells even though I have them. Says I have no spell points, what gives?

>>2127585
>>2127595
Do Argonians jump higher and run faster? Because my level 1 argonian in the first fucking dungeon can always jump high as fuck, whereas if i pick a breton/nord they don't jump nearly as high and they're slower.

I've also noticed argonians take hits harder. But yeah... My level 2 argonian can fucking climb up houses and shit in a few seconds and jump as high as those general store signs

Pls help. I have noticed similar for Khajiit

>>2127703
Press enter and try chameleon

>>2127705
Can somebody answer this?

>>2127705
According to this: http://www.uesp.net/wiki/Daggerfall:Races
Is it a female argonian? They have higher strength according to this, and that influences your jumping.

>>2127707
It still says I don't have any spell points, I don't understand, am I supposed to train with the mage guild?

>>2127716
No it's a male. And let your magic git gud.

>>2127716
>>2127703
You can see your magicka pool when the spell book is open or by clicking INT on your character sheet. Compare it with the cost of the spells you're trying to cast.

Your spell points are determined by your Intelligence stat. If you're not a spell-casting class, that is to say you have no magicka pool multiplier advantages, then you will find all but the most basic spells impossible to cast until you get very high skills in the relevant magic schools. Without one of those advantages, a few spells will be impossible to cast even with maxed out magic skills and Intelligence. You'll want to join the Mages Guild or Temple of Kynareth so you may use their Spell Maker NPCs to craft weak versions of the spell effects you want (by lowering their default effect scaling per level) to reduce their casting cost significantly. Cast those at will to get most of their benefit while training their governing magic skill, thus lowering their cost.

For more in-depth details, including a list of effects and their governing magic skills, see: http://www.uesp.net/wiki/Daggerfall:Magic_and_Spells

>>2127754
Also, if you do seemingly have enough spell points to cast the spells in question, then you are probably trying to cast a targeted spell without selecting a target. This will prevent you from casting more spells since the magicka is held up by the spell in progress. How to finish casting a targeted spell depends on your control scheme.
In view-based (FPS-style mouselook) control scheme, you use your "Activate Center Object" key binding.
In cursor-based (click-to-move) control scheme, you left click.

>>2127792
>>2127754
Thanks for all the help, seems like I don't have enough INT points.

Anyone else really prefer Daggerfall's pixel representation of the world to the more hi-end graphics found in Skyrim and Morrowind? Like, by themselves they're complete shit, but it really allows your imagination to take over and supply much more to the setting and characters than 100% poly-models can provide. The distance could hold anything with the gradual pop-ins so it really gives you a sense of smallness and discovery as you're able to traverse a simply massive world that allows for many variations in environment, tone and concepts precisely /because/ the graphics are left to be relatively lackluster, it puts an emphasis on world building by asking you to create it along with the game, similar to Minecraft.

>>2126327
The way I rolled mine was more caster-heavy than physical:

12 HP/level
3x INT spell points, Blunt Weapons only, bonus to hit Undead (I think?)

Restoration Mysticism Alteration as Primary
Blunt Weapon Medical Thaumaturgy as Major
Pretty sure some roleplay shit like Etiquette and Merchantile as Minors

Mainly used self-heals and buffs through fights (not Regeneration though, that shits broken). I purposely gimped myself on speed because literally every other character I made had 100 speed by endgame. Felt better to have to cast Feet of Notorgo on myself to achieve those ATATATATATATA levels.

Looking back, it's a shame that the "turn undead" spell was such garbage. It was prohibitively expensive to cast and had too low of a success rate to bother. Not even the spellmaker could make it good.

>>2127964
Yes, definitely. I'm kind of stuck in the 90s with my image of gaming.
I don't like Minecraft's way though.

>>2127985
Is 200 health the maximum or is that number just coincidentally

>travel to a major city cause i'm full weight and i need to get to a bank
>climb up wals with sneaky ninja climbing skills
>drop down and head my way towards an inn for the night
>suddenly a Monk out of nowhere starts attacking me
Has this ever happened to anyone else? Hell I remember going on a rampage in a castle. Then the orc guards came rushing in. When I killed the chieftain some popup dialog came up and i think he cursed me or something. Because the next time I slept at an inn i was interrupted by a gang of orcs.

>>2128193
you can go over 200

>>2128265
Oh all right. Relived, really. Hope that means over 255 as well, that damn FF-Hex-block was giving me the creeps in so many games.

>>2124806
If you're trying to run outside but can't then your cpu cycle is probably to high. Go into the dos conf file and change your cycle to 50000. That should fix it.

Can someone explain how climbing actually works?

>>2128260
maybe you were on bad footing with the dark brotherhood?

>>2128401
Run against a wall until you don't slide to the left or right any more, climbing mode should activate. Keep your forward key pressed. If you are bad at climbing (meaning low skill) and/or the related main attribute (strength) you can't climb for long and slip off.

Always save before climbing, else this may happen:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M7qoh2nglF0

Sadly it's a bit buggy:

>>2128407
Thanks
I've managed to do it by running into walls but I thought there might be more to it

>>2128409
I can't really remember where you need climbing at all (at least as far as I've played) could well be you will never ever need it at all because there's usually always a way to just get around it by climbing stairs.

So is a monk worth playing? I mean a monk as in unarmed combat and going totally armor-less.

Also if I do go monk I wouldn't mind picking up one magic school to give him a bit of variety; which one would be a good choice? Oh anything but destruction though - fireballs are boring.

>>2128407
when you level it more it gets easier to the point where i can jump from wall to wall or jump down on enemies from them

>>2128537
monk is fun as hell but yea don't take the pre-made one

the primary skills are fine since H2H + Crit + Dodge is great, but you might want to play around with the minor and misc skills

>>2127964
For me, no, I find the lack of sharpness in detail (I would kill for a higher resolution texture pack) quite difficult to deal with at times.

But I get what you mean, I've been playing some spiderweb software RPGs lately and the minimal detail plus good text descriptions in the way a GM would tell you stuff in an tabletop game just really works for me.

>>2128652
I'm quite pumped for Pillars of Eternity to be honest, looks like Infinity Engine games and the descriptive part looks really nice.

http://www.svatopluk.com/daggerfall/museum/

lists all dropped features of the game.

I wonder if this body has treasure.

>>2127307
>mac demarco
>indie justin bieber

>>2128671
>You should have been able to have sex with NPCs, including prostitutes, and even become one yourself.

r8 my sick as shit sweater i found in a dungeon

>>2128768
I rate it unearthly scream coming from an armed child/10

>>2128768

>>2128697
It probably does. Just check again.

How do I get some dungeon crawling quests instead of fetch shit?

>>2129118
save before asking the quest giver, load if you don't like the quest. it's random, sadly that's the only solution. if you decline a quest from one quest giver too often he gets pissy and doesn't have any more quests for you for a time.

>>2129118
Save your game before asking the quest giver, load if you don't like the quest. it's random, sadly that's the only solution. if you decline a quest from one quest giver too often he gets pissy and doesn't have any more quests for you for a time.

Is there a mod to make loitering in towns legal?

>>2129284
Thanks
>>2129145
How about you follow the law of the land?

That face tho

>>2129363
Dude you caught him fapping.

Give him some privacy.

>>2129363
I guess he's seen a druid.

I swear this entire dungeon is almost entirely just those 4-way interlink corridors stacked up and multiplied

>>2129363

>>2129569
Damn Daggerfall dungeons are so sexy. Why is level design nowadays so trashy. Old Bethesda's procedurally generated crap did better than the shitheads making levels nowadays.

>>2129587

>>2129587
the only way to explore daggerfall is blunted.

I always have to be damn blunt with the women, they always wanna be rude bitches to me but if I am an ass they always give me the answers I want.

>>2129685
It's a weird one. Daggerfall i'd say are consistently too sprawling, Morrowind's too small, Oblivion's the right size but too same-y and very obvious in their design, Skyrim same as Oblivion with worse monster variety. If we could get something on the order of fitting and sense-making dungeons like the newer games (minus the awful puzzles) but with some of the old-skool sprawl and creepy audio (no combat music for a start) that'd be perfect.

That creepyness is the one thing Daggerfall's dungeons really have on their side, every time you go in you know it's going to be a dangerous maze full of surprises.

Also more wandering into an inn to find naked people just sitting around like it ain't no thang.

>>2129713
other worlds aren't full of puritans forcing their warped view of the world upon the rest

>>2129730
>not wanted to see ugly ass people naked
>puritan

kek

>>2129732
Only beautiful people are getting naked.

Jesus, this world is massive. And so very easy to get lost in.
It feels kind of overwhelming almost, but i'm going to try to stick to it.

>>2129713

Eh, it's not like there's just random naked people all over the place. Most of them are in private rooms, and the rest are either dancing cultists or otherwise in temples (probably related to fertility rituals and/or indicative of something in Cyrodiilic (or at least Iliac Bay) religion roughly analogous to ancient hierodules).

playing a monk type is certainly a challenge at the beginning but it's enjoyable. I only ever played the swordmage/spellsword type so far which is kind of easymode.

>>2126165
i thought i was theonly one who loved the backgrounds and aesthetics of this game. i love you

>>2130306
I love it as well.

>>2128910
i never understood why this kid was programmed to make that noise in castle wayrest

>>2129587
easily the funniest shit i've seen all day

Best part about Daggerfall is the guild's make you be good at your fucking skills before you can advance

>>2130490
never really thought about it

Is it hard to get sneaking up if you haven't had it as starter primary skill?

I tried sneaking around with my character and pretty much nothing happened. enemies easily noticed me and no skill up after sleeping. do I have to buy my way up from trainers to an appropiate level?

>>2130803
I think so, but if you need to practice try raiding a tomb, they're very small dungeons, about 3 rooms, tiny amounts of treasure and enemies, but given the enemies are usually weak stuff like rats and you can duck in and out to reset very easily, they make neat training areas.

>>2130863
Do dungeons actually reset when you leave them? I can't remember. I'm at the last boss in the NWN main campaign now and will switch to Daggerfall then (finally).

>>2130962

Enemies reset, however everything else stays the same.

>>2130982
oh all right. finally done, now off to playing some kind of monk.

Just started this game, haven't played it since I was a lad. When I was younger I always played a swordsman with 3x spellpoints.

Is this shit going to work out? Never played without magic before, but I've got the max amount of hitpoints per level so maybe that'll help out.

>>2131012

Oh boy...

>>2130490
Fuck Oblivion for removing this. Also training was way better in Daggerfall than Morrowind. Training was so OP in Morrowind.

Anyone know how to play it properly? I started playing it today and all the controls are weird the sound jumps alot. Am I supposed to be running this on DOS box? In which i am not.

>>2131089
Depends on how fast you CPU is. If your cpu is too fast the games starts bugging out cause, lel dosgames. With Dosbox you can set the number of cycles the virtual cpu runs at so you don't run into that problem.

Are you using an old PC for it?

>>2131097

No i am using a new gaming rig i built. As being a newfag to retro gaming and emulating in general, i thought having all the best specs would have an advantage

>>2131089
>all the controls are weird
Press ESC, go to Controls, edit them at your leisure. Make sure to click "mouse" at the bottom bar and switch from "cursor" to "view", so that you get mouse look.

>the sound jumps alot. Am I supposed to be running this on DOS box?

Yes, play it with the dosbox installer from the OP, everything is properly configured.

If you don't know how dosbox works, the most important part to know for you is that if you press alt-enter you can switch back and forth from fullscreen and windowed mode
>help, my mouse cursor is stuck in the window
go back to fullscreen and back to windowed mode again (pressing alt-enter 2 times), it's free again.

you are supposed to run it in dosbox. use the downloader from the OP.

>>2131118

Thanks alot this is helpful, can't wait to start getting into this.

>>2131050
>16 INT
>10 PER
Oh dear.

>>2131138
Everyone hates me so getting directions has been pretty annoying, but other than that so far so good

My one fuck up was forgetting about Recall, since I always just used a spell, hoping I can brute force my way into Julianos and maybe make one, but I can't remember if's eligible for the item maker (maybe it was just Morrowind)

>>2131050

I'd do with a bit higher Personality. Everyone telling you to fuck off and refusing to speak to you is not only hurtful and demoralizing, but also makes it very difficult to get quests, money, or reasonable prices, possibly prevents you from joining guilds (or at least prevents you from advancing much, since a major part of advancement is your reputation with the guild and, essentially, reputation boils down to how much you're liked), and generally makes the game a lot more frustrating.

>>2131176
holy fuck man, your character's face looks so stoned

>>2131179
just ask the next person. it's a pretty useless stat.

>money
>prices

that is completely irrelevant after just a few dungeon crawls and the only thing to look forward to is buying a house and ship

>possibly prevents you from joining guilds (or at least prevents you from advancing much, since a major part of advancement is your reputation with the guild and, essentially, reputation boils down to how much you're liked)

that has nothing to do with the peronality stat, it doesn't have any influence on your reputation. as soon as you finish a quest you'll get as much reputation with 10 personality as with 100.

and if quest guy x doesn't want to talk to you right now, just head to a guild in another town and try it there.

>>2131194

Eh, really? I didn't know that. I still wouldn't, though. I tried playing a character with low personality and just got annoyed that I couldn't punch most of these people for being such utter dickholes.

Come to think of it, that's one flaw with the game. That the only non-hostile NPCs you can attack are wandering townsfolk and guards. When all the nobles act like utter dickholes even though my knight's etiquette is high as shit, I should be able to at least punch them in the face a little.

>>2131310
how about AOE spells?

tfw you're on one of those daedric possession quests but then it turns out it was a scam, and you track down the scammer, only to find he's hidden in the damn dark brotherhood headquarters for the town.

Or come across an actual full size not ruined fort as a dungeon.
Now there's something that would benefit immensely from a set dungeon map.

>>2131320
I always loved how so many quests involved an NPC dicking you over for no reason

I remember one of my first characters taking a quest from a tavern owner, he tells me to go see his master for details, and his master ends up being an Orc Shaman with some randomly generated gibberish name who proclaims himself to be my mortal enemy even though I've only been around for like a week

>>2131310
well, poin tis, if npc x doesn't like you, just move to another town and ask npc y of the same guild to give you a quest. there's almost 750.000 npcs in the game, if one doesn't like you, another one will definitely tolerate you.

>>2131318

Nope, any stationary, purely 2D (as opposed to 2.5D) NPCs are simply unaffected by any form of attack, and cannot be interacted with in any way other than looking at them and speaking with them.

>>2131348
>I always loved how so many quests involved an NPC dicking you over for no reason

they have to pay their bills somehow as well.

>>2131354
sucks

Just had a quest to escort the local dark brotherhood sect leader over a couple of towns, did so, got there to be interrupted with a message that he's wanted by the dark brotherhood, and would I try and protect him.

Being a member of the dark brotherhood myself the only reasonable option was to say no. Also he fucked up on the specific location to go to in the town so screw that guy. But now I've done my favoured town out of a dark brotherhood quest giver in said peculiar chain of events.

>>2131491
time to load an older savegame

>>2131503
Nah that guy was clearly a traitor or something. I can live. I should probably change province in a couple of game months anyway, been there nearly a year. Might go somewhere warm and dry.

>>2128537
>>2128593
The canned monk had its heart in the right place but it was not nearly survivable enough.

I kept the resistance to magic + shock advantages on mine and it seemed to help somewhat against casters; it won't prevent ancient vamps from nuking you into shit but it's something. I also remember giving him Athleticism, Expertise in Hand-to-Hand, 1xINT sp (with Restoration and Alteration for some basic healing/utility), and all armor/shields forbidden. I may have settled on somewhere between 12-15 HP/level but you'll likely want more.

Overall I would recommend it for a change of pace, but it really highlights how underpowered unarmed is compared to weaponry. For example I'm pretty sure a daedric weapon gets somewhere around +14 bonus to hit from the material while unarmed gets fuckall. I think I had my HtH at around 85% and my agility 90+ and there were still a surprising amount of misses - needless to say starting out is not a good time.

>>2131176
you should roleplay as a nordic exile outlaw, everyone hates you and you're just making your way in the world as a formerly notorious, now-reformed, criminal

>hand to hand combat doesn't count as joining criterium for the fighters' guild

had to roll a new monk and get archery as major skill to join, fucking hell. let's see if I can join the mage's guild...

>>2131858
H2H is only strong late game. At 300% it does double the damage of a Daedric dai-katana.

>>2132126
I can see it

>serious applicants only pls
>what mate, too good to use a weapon
>why don't you head to the wrothgarian mountains with those fists, huh tough guy
>show me some fancy karate that blocks an axe, monkman
>this is the fighter's guild, not a temple

>>2132150
>he can't even fill in his application in proper orcish or giantish - dropped
>I don't see any comgat gear, mate.
>Look at him! He wears some silly kajiit fancy suit!
>Sorry mate, was that your sandal under my iron-heeled boot?

>>2131858
I have that ebony dagger in my inventory just as a safety if it really gets too hard but I haven't had it used yet.
I didn't explicitly forbid my monk to wear leather or chain (but did with plate) but I don't wear it ever. I just wanted to take other disadvantages over it because those 2 don't change the position of the difficulty dagger at all.

Yeah, personality doesn't let me get much money out of selling stuff and the prices they ask are outrageous, but who cares? It's not like I need weapons or armor...

3x spell points and regenerate in darkness are probably a waste but I actually needed to get the dagger up in the end a bit or else I would have levelled too fast.

Kinda just started out yesterday. Suggestions? Will reroll if there's some glaring nonsense in there.

>muh high elf critical weakness to paralysis

ah who cares.

>finished a quest for the fighters guild
>bugs out
>doesn't recognized that i finished the quest
>annoyed
>kill a shitload of people
>kill a shitload of guards
>plead not guilty
>get banished
>get handed a letter
>from the dark brotherhood
>such is life

>>2132256
just move to another kingdom, they don't give a fuck if you were a murderous madman back in that petty kingdom behind the mountain.

>>2132268
how about other fighters guilds? am i stuck in a nexus of bugs?

>>2132291

Yeah, missing one quest isn't a *huge* deal. You can earn back the lost reputation by completing a quest.

Now, if you miss more quests, they will eventually get tired of your shit and kick you out. But one isn't a big deal, they'll let that slide.

>>2132297

Oh, and membership in the Fighters' Guild applies to all kingdoms of the Iliac Bay. If you joined the Fighters' Guild in Daggerfall, you'll still be in the Fighters' Guild in Sentinel, and you'll still have your same rank. Essentially, there's one single Fighters' Guild, which is sort of a pan-Imperial organization.

Also, none of the townsfolk or guards were members, so the Guild probably won't care.

>>2132302
this is correct

Can anyone explain to me what is up with this? All of the clothing on females seem to be misaligned with the paper doll they're meant to go on. Is there a way to fix this? Shit's weird.

>>2132493
This guy again. How did this guy ( >>2132213 ) get his clothing to work properly? My character is also a High Elf so I don't think it has anything to do with the race. This is the same outfit but it just doesn't seem to fit.

>>2132503
no clue how I did it to be honest, I just installed the daggerfall version from OP (which I am as well by the way) and that's it.

also

>using h2h while on a horse
>kick animations over the horse's head

>>2132510

>laughing jack

Wait a minute, she's not laughing at all...

>>2131082
It's like Bethesda knew the Morrowind combat was awful, so they wanted to encourage players to use trainers.

Is there any way to get a lot of arrows? Are there fletchers around? Haven't found one in the city of daggerfall yet.

Some noble gave me a quest to kill a monster. I lucked out and found the creature behind the first door of the dungeon. After I slayed it I had to report to some woman who apparently told the noble she wanted the monster dead. I traveled to the town she lived in and found her house. The door was locked so I figured she might still be asleep. I waited a few hours, and then a few more until more than 24 hours had passed. The door wouldn't unlock. I bashed the door in only to find an empty house.

Is there a way to permanently remove certain questtypes so that this won't happen again? Is there a list of quests that are impossible complete?

Or better yet; is there some sort of command to make a certain character (in my case the woman) spawn at your positio?

>>2132707

IIRC weapon smiths sell arrows.

>>2132728
yeah but the point is they don't sell many at all. I went through all of daggerfall's shops and found like 40 arrows and that's it. not enough for a dungeon run.

>>2132712
Never happened to me to be honest, I don't want to be that guy, but in most cases it's your own fault for not reading the quest text correctly if you have every useful patch installed. And if you haven't, it's your own fault more than ever.
Check the OP, there are some fixes that correct stuff like that but if you used one of the complete installers they're already installed so don't bother (installing stuff you already have may cause errors, I found out the hard way and had to re-install completely today).

>>2132503
Did you install DaggerfallSetup, or the official one from Bethesda? If you installed the official one make sure to get all the latest patches and fixes from UESP.

>receive quest
>finish quest
>go back to quest giver
>doesn't want to talk to me even though it's the guy handing out and finishing quests at the knights.

FUCK!

>receive Fighters' Guild quest to kill giant scorpion cornered in someone's residence
>arrive at residence
>scorpion is in the attic, glitched into a wall
>begin plinking with arrows
>spazzes into the ceiling after a hit
>now circling around above me, making that horrific sound while occasionally popping into view

2spooky

>>2124663
>>2124670
I actually "printed" that faq to a two-pages-per-side PDF a couple years ago and got it printed at Staples.

>>2133010
>receive quest to go kill a werewolf in some sprawling nightmarish maze
>end up mapping it out almost completely, no lucky break this time
>kill about a dozen wereboars while looking for the right one to give me my quest completion notification
>after an hour kill a solitary bear
>get a popup scoffing that the townspeople must have misinterpreted the bear noise as werewolf noise even though I've been killing actual lycanthropes left and right
>have to exit on foot because I'm completely incapable of using magic

Fucking Fighters Guild, some shit never changes

>>2133024
Damn, your character is fly as fuck.

>>2133010
goddamnit those fucking sounds I swear.

to be honest the worst thing is human enemies not making a sound at all, I just did a quest to kill somebody in a dungeon, suddenly spellsword around the corner, glowing red eyes, scared the everliving shit out of me because it was so sudden, I panic because I somehow think it's a vampire

>>2133024
>that face

every time

>>2133024
>that face
>INT 16
>PER 10

dumb and happy

wtf is it with that bell that bookshops keep around and ring continually?

Also ran into a person I've not seen before.

>>2133131
inb4 bitching about filters

>>2133131
never seen her either. on a sidenote your screenshot looks like it was painted with watercolors

>>2133138
>>2133140
...

what triggers the thieves's guild and dark brotherhood being interested in my character? pick pocketing and murder?

The dungeon assets in Daggerfall are creepy as hell. The later games really lack this...

I'm thinking of moving to Lainlyn. Can anyone tell me about their Knightly order? In their description it kinda point's out that their corrupt. Does joining them affect my rep with commoners?

Also, what should I rename my grimmedge character to?

>>2133163
Pickpocket stuff, even in a dungeon (safest place really).
Murder random civilians. Easy enough to just pick a couple in a out of the way town and then run like fuck to not get caught.

Both of them will have a note turn up and give you a short quest.

>>2133165
Getting lost in a dungeon doesn't really help either.

>>2133189
>speed: 35

I'd just fall asleep while swinging, all my characters ever were speed merchants.

>>2133190
I see, thanks.

>>2133197
>I'd just fall asleep while swinging, all my characters ever were speed merchants.
I used to like playing as a speed demon. But I got tired of killing everything so fast. Now I just want to see my enemies suffer as I slowly beat them to death.

>>2133219
you are an evil person

>>2133131
>>2133189
>>2133219
I'm assuming these are all bait?

>>2133165
>topright
I never noticed that was a pile of corpses. Holy shit.

>>2133226
this isn't /v/ mate

>>2133243
What else could you have possibly thought it was?

>>2131176
man i have some extreme feels for that skeleton, buddy's so fuckin' persecuted it's not fair

>>2133269
Not like zombies who are just dicks about it

I rediscovered today that helmets come in more than the +1 armour types, having found a +7 and a +8 now. I only thought to check because the colour.

>using dagpicg to tweak PC faces
>modding and playing an old ass dosgame with a PC i put together for muh-graphix and PS2/NGC emulation
What the fuck am I doing with my life.

>>2133452
Nice use of the cloak stacking. Never thought you could use it like that.

>>2133573

Considering there aren't any better, modern PC games you could be playing, I won't blame you for using your muh-graphix PC for this purpose. I'm doing the same shit after all.

Let's live it up.

>create new char
>it's been years but I've still got the hang of it
>killin
>lootin
>savin
>dungeon over, go to town
>ask around for ages until somebody tells me where the knights are
>all the way across town
>finally get there after consulting my map twenty times
>through the foggy snow I have persevered
>oops been a while since I saved
>crashes during save
>last save, dungeon exit

Time to quit and restart again after a week of sulking. This game is a bitch.
One that I love but won't love me back

Out of curiosity, I never really thought to check because most of my characters have been focused one way or the other without much inbetween. Can I join more than one of the main guilds (Fighters, Mages, Thieves, Dark Brohood) at once? I know you can only join one temple.

>>2124663
This picture was taken a while ago but I'm stuck in the King of Worms place because I can't kill the zombies at my level.

>>2133873
Yes, you can.

>>2133880
All four of them at once + a temple is possible then? Just to make sure.

>>2133881
I don't know all about all of them at once, but one of my characters is in the Thieves, Fighters, and a temple.
So more than one guild, at least, is possible.

>>2133881
The only guild limitation is that you can join a single temple and a single knightly order

>>2133881
In theory you can join each guild, but often tasks from one guild (e.g. protecting the mages house from assassins) will get you negative reputation for other guilds. So I'm not sure if a character who joined every guild is well playable after all.

>>2133876
>Wil 17
Enjoy not resisting any spell effects

On that note, fuck orc shaman. Especially when you find a room with them and nightblades all together chilling out.

TAKE YOUR FUCKING BOOK I SPENT 300 GOLD PIECES ON IT YOU UNGRATEFUL SHIT

>>2134337

How come you can't attack non-generic NPCs? Nobles/innkeepers/questgivers/guildmembers can just say and do whatever the hell they want to you and you can't do shit.

Being able to hit them when they act like dickwads would've fixed 70% of my problems with the game.

>also tfw when Barenziah insults and refuses to speak with you. not that i'd ever attack Barenziah but I READ ALL YOUR BOOKS I AM YOUR BIGGEST FAN WHY DO YOU HATE ME SO

>>2134402
>not chilling out with wayrest's noble family

>>2133573
I love it man! Ever considered making a GFX mod pack with thoses?

And BTW someone try the pirates of Tamriel mod? What does it do exactly?

>>2134402
probably just so they wouldn't have to make animations for all of them. given that daggerfall lets you fuck yourself over on quests all over the place i can't imagine they would be too troubled about you killing a main quest person or anything.

>anticlere surcoat of undeniable access
>formal cloak of the sealed door

I AM GOD OF DOORS
THE LOCKEDNESS OF DOORS BENDS TO MY WILL
BEHOLD MY WRATH

if anyone wants enchanted claymores hit me up

I only just realised the floating skill by a candle is a teleporter.

Also that you can use certain torches like switches, in particular for making cages blocking doors move.

What other environment tricks am I missing?

>>2134550
Red doors are funky. Sometimes they are teleporters,sometime they open and sometime they won't do anything at all. I don't know very much how they work actually.

Does someone have any idea how they work?

>>2134639
From what I recall, both static switches (floating skulls especially) and brick doors can also instantly kill you as well

>>2134424
https://mega.co.nz/#!00tG3KQL!1bUO0MB0mPo6JLUpBsrQSvbw7g_wA_40VauZq9d-hj8
It tweaks some female andyfall faces. One from altmer, 3 khajiit, and 1 dunmer.

>>2134758
Thanks mate, appreciate.

>>2134758
Wow I dun goof'd on the one khajeet face. Don't DL it.

>>2134821
https://mega.co.nz/#!c1c2xJgJ!OmvQ2azEZFzZooycuDS9AbDfKW0w-Q5vOe6H4xM7KOI
Fixed it.

I think I might be in this town for a while.

>>2135045
>screaming stag
>dirty badger
I love the names of taverns in Daggerfall.

https://mega.co.nz/#!M0U2iCLB!dXDxlsPgziuIt1Q3g3Fi16jDi1b7FQYNuB930yooHbc

Another tweak for the Khajiit faces.

https://mega.co.nz/#!gg12xKhA!CWIENrQl4Cwk9HyYoqMWv5T2aZ-X_Slz_XBzeJA9yZw

Re-tweaked the #7 Khajiit face again.

>>2135045
>filters
You don't find the graphics appealing as they were? I think they are really well drawn, I am surprised to see people using filters on them.

Rate mates.

Just got outta first dungeon, landed me a map to some cave, an enchanted sword that bumps my endurance up from 60 to 88, and got some silver weapons to sell.

I do believe that extra luck I started with helped out.

Can I get some help? Whenever I walk across these stairs, I get instantly killed by some invisible force saying "HE YA"

Just the stairs, I've been all around them and in the entrance up them. But I keep walking on them by accident every now and then

>>2135245
I've had this as well, though it's not instant, it's a very rapid series of hits.

>>2135206
Might want to just sell the sword or use it sparingly, if you just keep it equipped it'll break and disappear pretty quickly even if you're just fast travelling around and never fighting

>>2135275
I have a backup silver sword, might as well use it while it lasts.


Also, fuck me. I guess I'm not supposed to make a really good jump and get across the ledge in the beginning of the dungeon, tons of liches and spiders spawn right on top of each other

I'm paralyzed and they mostly killed each other, the last one is just staring me down. Should I fight him at level 2?

>>2135291
HOW LONG DOES PARALYSIS LAST!

>>2135294
The answer to this question is too long

>>2135296
Liches apparently don't carry loot

And more spawn when you try to loot them, what is even going on?

>>2135245
It's a tarp. Use a levitation spell or jump over it if you're so great.

>>2127334
>ELFS

But really has anyone figured out a good keymap for using daggerfall with a gamepad?

>>2135425

My favorite keymap for using Daggerfall with a gamepad is not using Daggerfall with a gamepad.

I mean, it's your choice obviously, but I can't imagine any gamepad would have enough buttons to be useful. And using both gamepad and keyboard would probably be really cumbersome and not worth the effort.

Getting a lot of crashes and the game's frames are slowing down massively and I have no idea what could be causing it. I've been playing with the DaggerfallSetup version for years and now after I reinstalled it because of some other bullshit, DOSBox can't keep up at all. Any idea what the fuck is going on? I changed the DOSBox config from cycles=50000 to cycles=auto and cycles=max and shit doesn't change, it just hits a wall, the fps drops like fucking crazy and then it crashes. This is on a fucking gaming rig so it's something to do with the settings and not my 2009 CPU not being able to handle Daggerfall.

>>2135460
Make sure your output is opengl or ddraw. Maybe it's because of that.

>>2135492
This seems to have worked for now, thanks. The audio still sometimes slows down a bit and horseriding sound effects seem more choppy than usual (they were already choppy to my knowledge). Not sure if there's a way to fix this.

Which temple is best /vr/?

>>2135598
Julianos.

>>2135598
Dibella.

>>2135645
This is amazing, thank you.

r8 my fashionfall

THERE AINT NO PARTY LIKE A NECROMANCER PARTY

>>2135681
Beautiful.

>>2135801
PARTY AWAY THAT RIGOR MORTIS

this quest has been fuckin tense
There's a daedroth lurking raround in this maze that completely owns my ass whenever he corners me, and my dwarven broadsword doesn't affect him one bit. Sometimes I can sneak past him, but hardly. I've been having to avoid where I think he's at for a good while but I finally found the guy I came here for and im gettin the fuck out

scariest game of the year

>get mission to go after dragonlings
>dungeon is full of ancient vampires

Nope'd the fuck outa there. No reward or loot is worth that pain without a shit-ton of magic resist/reflect items being worn.

>next mission, kill a wizard
>running because impatient
>few seconds in to the dungeon enter room
jesus fuck I am glad my stealth is up in skill because there's 4 mummies and a Wizard in the room, and only 1 mummy alerted to my busting through the door

Wow, it's been more than a year since I beat Arena, This thread has inspired me to finally play through Daggerfall.

I haven't played DF in a while. Here's my character though.

>>2136149
>INT and WIL below 20
>SPD and AGI over 80
'talk about glass cannon. Magic is going to hurt like a bitch.

>>2136158
>Magic is going to hurt like a bitch.
Oh hell yes.
Currently desperately upping my magery skills in order to get access to item makers and get something helpful for dealing with all the ancient Lich and vampires that I've been running into. And this is with about 60/60 INT/WIL.
The Daedric armour, it does nothing.

Amusingly though on occasion the Lich throws a spell with some serious boom that I'll somehow resist/tank the damage of and it just blows itself up from the area effect.

>>2136158
Eventually I want to get the Khajit Ring, which will hopefully allow me to avoid magic-users altogether.

Where my pure magebros at?

>>2136182
90 luck probably helps
I had a friend that played loads of DF, and more often than not, he had liches exploding themselves while he resists the spell

>Pick race with immunity to poison&disease
>Custom class w/critical weakness to poison&disease
>extra points

>>2136705
>using magic
>using words period

Careful you don't break something, little guy!

Moving to Lainlyn was the right choice.

>>2136793
I thought the only race with an immunity you can cheese like that in Daggerfall were high elves with paralysis?

>>2135645
Whoever makes the next thread later needs to use this for the op image.

>>2136846
It's a great little place, spent many months there. Also tried Menevia and Alclair, they're ok I guess. Lainlyn has the warm&wet thing going for it though. Lots of rain whilst I was there And fewer snooty bretons.
Abibon-Gora is a weird one, desert province full of Bretons and fighter-trainers turning up instead of the fighter's guild. I assume it's some sort of colony type thing?

On a different note:

I have had to get used to magic items wearing out, a couple of vicious dungeons full of ancient vampires have worn out the magic resist/reflect items I got enchanted especially to deal with them, just from the multiple super-damage attacks they launch. Did manage to blag a soul-gem with an ancient lich in it, sensibly put it on a low-wear item that just boosted up a ton of movement related skills though, and making sure to not use constant-effect items constantly to eke out their use, since even with the boatloads of cash that you can make (I should buy a boat at some point, maybe a house too) the costs of the heavier enchantments and of course the best sold gems with like daedra lords and the like in them (easier than soul-trapping I've found) can really eat into a budget. As in, It's costing with my PER/mercantile about 800k for one.

Which given gold actually has weight, well, I've just taken to carrying letters of credit and depleting them instead of carrying real money except in small change (less than 5k).

And on another note:
Am really loving those huge rooms that you sometimes get in dungeons, where it suddenly opens up from all these winding corridors into a massive hall with towers or a big sacrificial pit. Size compensating for lack of detail I guess. Though there's some neat detailed bits in the hand-built dungeons.

EMERGENCY

So I spent about an hour in this cunt dungeon, it had elevators and switches all over the place, had to figure them all out. Only I could figure out was why there was a big ass hole in the ceiling and no elevators for the two switches in the other room. So I climbed said hole, and it led me to a secluded little area where my quest target and his goons waited to ambush me.

The switches opened the gates that barred the very top of the hole, and now I'm looking at a very long fall.

The chain above the gate is a slowfall spell, HOWEVER, it only worked once. So I reloaded when I realized that, being trapped.
The kicker is, it only works once throughout all my saves. So now I'm stuck in this fucking tower with no way down. I'm a warrior, I don't even have the mana to cast slowfall myself if I wanted to.

Is there a guide to climbing down things? I have trouble climbing as is.

>>2136996
I dont know if this will work for you but its worth a shot. [save your game. Then reload, do not move, then do the alt-F11] hopefully it works and will warp you to the dungeon exit.

>>2136870
It's not, but immunity to paralysis is infinitely better to have because it's the most debilitating effect in the game

What does Holy Water do?

>>2136996
Use the ALT-F11 trick to teleport yourself back to the entrance of the dungeon. This is useful as fuck if you get stuck or simply get lost and don't have a recall spell set up, or if finding your way out of a dungeon is giving you a major headache.

Holy shit this game is so buggy even with the latest DFSetup and shit. I joined the temple of Dibella and started doing some quests for them, then I get to this one about exorcising the daedra out of a child.

So it sends me off to talk to the child's guardian, he's in an inn in the town, I talk to him, he tells me to go see the child before then going to another town to speak to someone to get the icon to dispell the daedra. So I go find the child in his house, "blah blah i'm a daedra", then I go to the other town to find the person to get the icon off of.

The person says in dialogue that they have given me the icon and that I only need to talk to the child now to fix the whole situation (but there isn't any quest item in my inventory after this point which would suggest as much). So after that I go back to the child and try to speak with him and nothing happens, just nothing. The quest has just broken in the middle of itself probably because the bitch who I was meant to get the item from didn't even give me the item.

Then I reload my last save which is before I took the quest inside one of the dibella temples, and the questgiver NPC has disappeared completely, even though she was there when I took the quest (duh).

What is even going on. This isn't even the first time this has happened, every other Dibella quest which isn't just "go here and kill this zombie" I try is bugged out in some way and unfinishable.

Which attribute is the least important in this game? Which one can I cannibalize for other attributes?

>start new char
>focus on magery instead of my usual warrior
>get an elven sword and tower shield immediately

Every time

>>2137084
It's just an ordinary artifact you're supposed to sell. Unlike bandages and torches which had planned for functionality. But 90s bros thought 2 years was too long for development time. So it got cut.

>>2137217
That's not a bug. If you didn't check on the child before talking to the artifact holder, then you failed the quest.

>>2137289 >>2137217
Fuck I'm tired. I didn't even read that comment fully. My bad. It's a bug.

>>2135810
lol, good gif
We need more funny Daggerfall stuff

>>2135825
Yup, I'd say Daggerfall is the scariest non-horror game that I know of. Much more atmosphere than the later games in the series, mostly because there you usually are only given quests you can easily do.

preach it king of worms

>>2137150
>>2137059
Enabling cheats for the ALT-F11 step back should be mandatory.

The amount of times I've needed it after getting caught in a wall after mistiming a jump is somewhat silly.

Oh sweet, after a bit of messing about yesterday I've decided to start the game for proper today and found a Shield that buffs Will by a pretty hefty amount on one of the archers.

>>2137739
Oh well scratch that, it's draining as I use it.

Left Privateer's hold with a couple of decent pieces of equipment this time, and Elven Long Blade and Left Pauldron as well as the previously mentioned Shield.

>>2136705

>tfw when spell absorbtion advantage lets me make a super powerful and expensive explosion spell and use it as much as I want basically without any magic cost.

>>2137806

Whoops, forgot character image.

>>2137739

Wait bro holy shit where did you get those boots/pauldron?

>>2137824
I think it's from the armor mod from andyfall.

I am far too amused by this. I really should not be.

>>2137787
Woah, I love that dress. It's like a Wonder Woman dress.

I love how you can go full lewd in this game.

>>2138153
Is it only Khajit and Argonian chainmail that is seethrough? Far as I know they're the only ones to use alternate paperdoll clothes to the rest of the races. Shit sucks.

>>2138182
Dunmer and High elf have see through chain meshes. I think it's mostly the Human races that have non see through chainmail.

Huehuehue...

>>2138215
Hm no, I tried it on High Elf and the chainmail wasn't see-through.

>>2138153
>slow khajiit

The only drug free khajiit in tamriel.

>>2137882
>leetspeak is dead
>fps is dead
>mfw fast fps died cause of steam casuals complaining about people who knew how to bunnyhop

>>2138224
It is on mine. I'm using vanilla armors though.

>>2138249
I am also using vanilla armors. Not a fucking clue what is up then.

>>2138220
If only Bethesda completed the Prostitute faction and functions.

>>2138259
I'm sure it'll happen when DaggerXL beta gets released and is moddable in the year 2038.

Thanks Lucius.

>>2138256
I remember snooping through the art assets once, think they had two models for chainmail. Either the game is bugged or the chance of getting one or the other is abysmally low.

>>2138265
What were your installation settings with DaggerfallSetup? Was it full with everything enabled? There's this in there, which is the only thing in there which modifies graphics by the looks of it (apart from the Wayrest Dark Elves color fixes).

>>2138229
But anon, if you look deep, deep in your heart, you will see that FPS still lives.
But yeah, is annoying when I open a FPS server on my android to pass a file to a PC and everyone is looking at me like I am a mage

>>2138256
Did you cange your race with hexedit? If you picked that armor up from when you were a different race, that armor won't change for your race. You need to pick up a new chainmail armor one.

>>2138268
Yeah I got a full install going so that could be it.

>>2138268
>>2138249 is me using Daggerfall setup.

>>2138271
Nope.
>>2138272
Well, I have a full install. I was just wondering if you had unticked this box and the "fix" actually accidentally worsened the chainmail.

Gonna reinstall and see if it fixes.

>>2138261
>2038
>Beta's almost out guys

>>2138275
Just download the andyfall armor textures, then go to it's backup folder. Those are the vannilla textures. You can just copy paste TEXTURE.246 to TEXTURE.248, to get rid of the chainmail edit on the armors.

>>2138275
Did two separate fresh reinstalls. One with Full Installation with this ( >>2138268 ) ticked, and one without it ticked. Pic related. The "Fix" fixes the chainmail by making it solid and non-transparent.

>>2138272
As for this, all I can think of is that your latest DaggerfallSetup install could be from before this fix from 07/06/14 (which is only earlier this year, and DFSetup has been around for a long time) was packaged with the latest DaggerfallSetup.

As a side note I forgot how extremely unappealing the default non-andyfall face is for this preset.

should not be able to see through mail anyway

>>2138346
And here is his thread where he shows what he's done: http://xlengine.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=14&t=955

>>2138348

Yeah come to think of it I was gonna say that.

Transparent chainmail is honestly kinda stupid, guys. It's supposed to be defensime armor made of interlocking metal rings not gauzy silver lingerie.

>>2138372

*defensive

>>2138372
m8 you don't understand its the principle of it all, if i want default silver lingerie i should be allowed it

#notallchainmail

>>2138261
In the year 2525, when man is still alive...

c'mon, don't tell me you don't know that song.

But yeah, DaggerXL is taking a long time, and it doesn't seem it will be finished anytime soon.

>>2138382
He's started working on the Mac and Linux versions because he got a Macbook, which delays the Windows Beta release of course.

>>2137235
Is luck perhaps the least important attribute?

So this is a morrowind build question but there's no morrowind thread so I'm going to piggyback on this.

http://morrowind.inventivegamer.com/tools/chargen/?character=1,6,3,3,4,3,24,15,12,22,20,13,25,26,16,23

how does this build look? I mean to be kind of like a nightblade but with a bow and more combat-oriented. Also no real need for unarmored or destriction. Is it ok to put illusion in major instead of mysticism or should I keep major restricted to primary attribute skills?

>>2138497
Fuck off, try /v/ or /vg/.

>>2138418
no, Personality is. Because whilst you'll get a lot of hate and crap prices and outright refusals on lots of stuff, well, there's always more people out there and reputation can help a ton.

Luck however affects every single action you take that has a chance of success involved. most obviously it affects the kind and quality of loot/store inventory you'll find, with high luck you get better equipment turning up far sooner and in greater quantities than with average/sub-average.

>>2138576
Thank you, guess 10 personality ain't so bad then.

Made a fix for anyone who wants it.
-See through human chain armors. [For Vanilla Female Human Armor]
-Argonian, and Khajiit cape fixes [For Andyfall Clothing]

https://mega.co.nz/#!98d1XILC!Hj6a760541H4ywJjCy36NHS9U8Q7xDlfGX8DFfSzdIE

>>2138886
Based anon! One million internets for you my good man!

Uh, I was crawling a dungeon, and suddenly my speed attribute went up to 100, what exactly caused this?

>>2139032
You either got a blessing from Akatosh or you triggered something in the dungeon. I once got buffed with levitate spell from clicking on a random chain in a big room.


Anyways some new tweaks for female faces. Previews of what you get are inside.

https://mega.co.nz/#!ApFCGIZR!ejVPWZFzViuT6lDjTs8URVdrL5Y8Kuiil1T-ZxasQGE

>>2139053
Oh, it turns out I'm a werewolf, apparently. The cutscene didn't play though which was strange.

I have Linux Mint...is there hope to play this game?

>>2139063
As long as you can use DOSbox. Daum is the best one I've used so far.

>>2138886
Nice job, this doesn't cover the leather greaves' chain and the chain found on platebody armor though I'm guessing? Either way this is pretty good.

>>2139102
It does.

>>2139053
What program did you use to make these? Any way I could use it to port over faces from Arena, I kinda miss ol' grumpyguts here.

>>2139113
>What program did you use to make these?
Andypic and GIMP2.

http://www.uesp.net/wiki/Daggerfall:Files

>>2139076

Guessing Wine wont work with the .exe file or....?

>>2139131
It doesn't even work with Windows in the first place, so no.

It's a 16-bit DOS executable, I believe.

>>2139110
Oh, neat, good job putting all this shit together.

I just LOVE how everyone is posting nudes here and I am the only one who gets a 3-day ban for posting implied nudity.

>>2139032
Maybe you pressed "1" with cheatmode on.

I had some kind of bug yesterday. I was doing a fighters' guild animal quest (ironically INSIDE the fighters' guild, so the quest giver called himself an idiot) but the spawning point of the bats was directly at the door, I accidentally hit the door while fighting them, triggering guards to show up, they asked me to surrender, I complied only to check how much I'd have to sit out and then load but instead they continued attacking me so I fought back. My HP was down to 0 but I didn't die (I'm not invulnerable, I just did some dungeon before that and died there 2 times) and when I checked my reputation after that it was on revered.
What the fuck is going on?
I kept it like that of course and no one's harrassing me. :)

>>2138382
Funny, I met a Ysyrrya Wicksley last night. She threatened to disembowel me.

>please escort the oracle to this one guy who she forsaw being killed and Daggerfall fall into turmoil afterwards so she can speak to him and convince him to go into hiding
>arrive at the residence
>see this

Is this some kind of weird fetish dating service?

Is there any use in bringing up more than the required 2 magic skills up? you only need a primary and secondary skill to advance in the mages' guild (for highest rank you need one at 80%, the 2nd at 40%), why bother with the rest? does it improve your damage of that respective type of magic, reduce the cost of a spell or make it more likely to work on an enemy?

didn't catch the first part of the quest text, started with something like "Oh no, we're all going to die a fiery death! We... Oh there's [player character], maybe he/she/xir/thon can help us"

>>2139262
and forgot to add the image...

when the enemies finally arrive it's a bunch of rats. text pop-up with my player character saying something like "frightful daedras indeed".

>>2139263
my favourite quest. hopefully there isn't a high level variant with actual daedras...