/vr/ - Retro Games

Maybe don't be a complete idiot and yank the cord. You wont bend the prong then.

>American plugs.

>>2119985
Enjoy those 3rd world standards.

Thats not the genesis, 32x, sega cd power cords though
This was brilliant by nintendo but the saturn and dreamcast did it better

>>2119993
Yeah, I prefer this design over having it in the middle of the cord.

So that it ends with a normal plug instead of one of these space-wasting monstrosities.

>>2119990
>Europe
>Third world

>>2120013
Parts are and most other 3rd world countries share your stupid plug or something very close.

>Internal, easily swappable power supply.
More shit should probably be made like this. Too bad the form factor didn't become more of a standard.

>>2119972
>an anyone tell me why the fuck?

So if you accidentally tear the cable, you can shell out more dough for Nintendo branded special cables instead of buying a generic NEMA 1-15 connector for like 5$.

That's why EVERY GODDAMN THING has custom plugs. Remember how phones were before smartphones made USB common? Every single manufacturers phone required a different power plug... and a different data cable plug, and sometimes even a unique headphone plug as well.

>>2120018
>Rounded plugs that slip in and out of the socket neatly and sits tight.
>Stupid.

>>2120028
Apple still does this shit, and people eat it all up because if Apple does it it's okay.

>>2120031
Makes a lot of sense to use a different plug then the two leading countries that brought almost all electronic innovation to the world. Or just plain invented it for that matter.
>>2120028
I'd take a plug like Nintendo's over the internal power supply like in the Saturn that is pain in the ass to fix.

>>2120042
What are we supposed to do instead? Just use other cables? (Ain't gonna work, bro.)

>>2120048

You could you know do what America and Japan did.

>over 30
>crying about plugs on a Cambodian comic website

>>2120019
Didn't help that the opposition was the Playstation.

>>2119972

So you can plug other things into nearby sockets instead of wasting half of a power strip with a giant box on the other end of the cord, unless you like having to buy two power strips for your entertainment center.

Simple effective and beautiful

The N64's AC adapter was god tier though. It was the best of both worlds. All the benefits of an internalized power supply, while at the same time being able to easily just replace a piece of the console instead of having to buy an entire new one if the supply breaks.

>>2120173

Actually, the US/NA design is far simpler, but that does have an elegance to it.

Where the fuck is the ground pin on these Euroshit plugs?

>>2119990
Funny kid. The US plugs are the worst standard there is. Only good thing is they're small. Also unfused and usually ungrounded so they electrocute amerifats.

>>2120226
Why would the plug need to be grounded or have a fuse?
We have breaker boxes.

>Age 8
>Have genesis and NES that get moved around to different TVs in the house a lot (and get unplugged and replugged if there are few outlets
>Start to notice the Genesis plug works for the NES
>"Well, that's just one less piece of equipment to worry about"
>2 months later, Wonder why the Genesis won't turn on anymore.

>>2120247
Rough, ironically I got an A/C adapter that says it works on genesis/cd/NES/SNES

>>2120256
http://www.ebay.com/itm/291243685809?_trksid=p2059210.m2749.l2649&ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT

This one.

>>2120247
You were rich enough to have two TVs in the 80s/early 90s but still too dumb to read that is says use only the right power adapter on the back of the console.
>>2120259
>>2120256
All those Chinese power supplies are garbage.

>>2120264
I don't know man, when I asked what was good for Genesis 1 Fudoh (aka retro god) said:

>there's nothing more generic than a 9-10V power supply. If you get a stronger one, you can even use a single one instead of two. You just need 2.5 to 3 amps and a little splitting adapter for the connector.

Seems like it just doesn't matter.

>>2120278
You can make one work. Those Chinese power adapters are low quality.
Something underpowered wont last long and something with too much voltage will work for awhile till the voltage regulator gives up.

>>2120065
Playstation power supplies DO go out sometimes though, and they're also modular but you have to open the case. Not hard but there's probably 12 screws you have to take out to change the power supply. Even more in PS2. They definitely have more voltage lines than an N64 though.

>>2120264
We were not rich.
We had rich extended family that were generous around christmas.

>>2120298
Isn't the PlayStation and PSOne power supply different?

>>2120285
Has fudoh ever been wrong?

>>2120325
I don't know exactly what he said but I highly doubt he recommended a chinese power adapter.

I have a white Japanese Sega Saturn
On the back it says it runs on 100v
Should I be worried if I live in burgerland where everything is 120v

>>2120330
I mean, I linked it in the thread, no one said "NO STOP DON'T", it works fine when I'm using it.

I'm just not seeing your point. Appreciate you trying to help though.

>>2120348
I see a link to the shitty power adapter. Don't see any link to someone recommending it.
>>2120331
Should be fine but stepdown converters are cheap and if you care about your stuff you should already have one.

>>2120356
Right but usually if you post "hey I'm gonna do X" and X is a bad idea people will say "hey maybe don't do X because of A, B, C"

>>2120360
How you ever opened one of those shitty power adapters up? They are low quality garbage.

Is the output voltage correct? Probably close and the recommended amps are probably fine too.
1602 power adapter outputs like 15v usually so the range is pretty forgiving since the 7805 regulates it.

>>2120367
You tell me.

>>2120367
God dammit internet.

>>2120373
>>2120371
Tell you what? How shitty those power supplies are?
Are you trolling?

>>2120391
>Is the output voltage correct?
>You tell me

I'm sorry if it wasn't clear enough.

>>2120393
My multimeter wont reach through the screen. Sorry.
If you go by stickers then ya...

>>2120396
I've usually gone by stickers, doesn't everyone?

>My multimeter wont reach through the screen.
Get a better one.

>>2120401
Think you missed your board by 2 doors.

>>2120050
I can't believe you'd even go there, dude. Learn some history and then try to keep up such idiotic remarks. I.. I am sorry Americans can be this ignorant. Seriously.

>>2120308
Yes. PSOne power supplies are a common part of getting a working Famicom in the US, need to modify the end though

Would you rather have a big ass AC adapter that takes up 3 slots on a power strip unless it's on the edge?

>>2120683
But anon!
With the powercube all my problems are solved!

>>2120716
4chan why you be flipping my images out of nowhere

>>2120716
Truly a work of art

>>2120221
they're in Brazil

they literally added a ground pin to it and called it a national standard

you have no idea the amounts of pain this is causing

>>2120001

This. Or use a brick-in-line configuration like a lot of laptop chargers or the Wii power adaptor.

>>2120848
Don't be a fucking child. Adapters are sold cheap everywhere and the new standard supports the old standard, and changing your wall plugs is cheap too.

People who cry about it just doesn't understand nothing about electricity and/or use devices bought in the USA that uses the flattened connector standard.

>>2120856
>MUH GROUND
>we HAVE TO introduce this new plug
>otherwise people will die
>we'll require that devices be sold with it by law
>even though it won't fit into existing sockets
>let's have the entire population change their sockets
>or they can shell out money for shitty adapters they have to carry everywhere
>if you use USA equipment instead of PAL faggotry your opinion doesn't matter

nah, fuck you, there's literally zero benefits to this change, european plugs were working just fine thank you

>>2120869
>>2120856
Serf and monkey arguing over plugs. Funny.

Also you guys do know there is a version of the US plug with ground that is extremely common right?

>>2120247
>>2120256
I have a Famicom but I use my Master System AC adapter. Should I be worried too? (I'm yuro btw)

>>2111111

>>2120946

Check the power ratings on both adaptors and consoles.

>>2120971
Famicom:
AC 100V 50/60Hz 16VA
DC10V 860mA
+ C -

Master System:
Input: 220v - 50Hz
Output 9.0V - 1.0A 9.0VA

>>2119998
Me too, seriously. Though it's kind of defeated by internal psu

>>2120331

20% over really is the limit, electronics are always built with some kind of tolerance against up to 10 % fluctuations- because those are normal (You don't think your 120 V line always exactly has 120V? THink again)- but 120 instead of 100 are REALLY pushing it... Typically electric appliances still work at that overvoltage but their life lenght decreases, especially the capacitors. I'd get a stepdown converter.

>>2121150
Searching up step down converters i get all these wierd electronics I have no idea how to use
Any particular one to get
I dont see any 120 to 100v

>>2120173
The schuko plug is worst piece of shit ever invented and I hate that all fucking things use it.

>>2121150
Most jap and American power supplies are the same or very close. It's up to a 20% difference or a bit more because the volts are always a constant 120v.
>>2121157
you need to lurk more then. See tons on ebay and google.

>>2121169

It's up to a 20% difference or a bit more or less because the volts aren't always a constant 120v.
Is how it should read

>>2121169
None of this looks like what I need

>>2121157
Just plug it into the wall

>>2121175

Well of course. Those converters are most often used for the big conversions between the 230V and the 120V range, 120 to 100 is a niche use.

It will be at the treshold but should be fine, depending on how much tolerance the Saturn's power unit has

>>2121158
No, TEMA is.

>>2120241
>not understanding electricity
>not valuing life

>>2120331
No. I run Japanese consoles, including Saturns, at 120 all the time and there's no problem. If you care about the science see below.

>>2121150
>especially the capacitors
Then he's laughing. The only capacitor touching mains voltage in a Japanese Saturn PS is rated for 200V and other parts are rated for higher than needed voltages. Parts like the voltage regulators can handle even larger differences. For example a 5v regulator can handle an input of more than 3 times that, often up to 5 times.

>>2121576
Is there a problems in the 3rd world with you monkeys sticking your hands where they shouldn't be or something? Nothing dangerous about it unless you make it so.

>>2121640
Yeah its not like electrical engineering is an exact science or whatever, right?

>>2121657
It's not when we're dealing with 20%+ variances kiddo.

Ahhh.
People with no technical aptitude.
We're rich because of you.

Thanks.

>>2120226
>120v
Kinda tickles.

>>2121774
In other news a local woman was tickled to death when her hair dryer fell into the tub while she was taking a bath.

Holy shit, I haven't seen so many ignorant declarations about electricity since the first day of university.

why is there a ground prong anyway
if i wanted my cable ground i would unplug it and put it onto the floor

>>2121774

AC is considered life threatening at >50V

>>2121809
Hence why we should use Edison's Direct Current!

>>2121787
I doubt anybody has died accidentally from hairdryer in a bath.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dcrY59nGxBg

>>2120652


im not even american but fuck this comment is pathetic

>>2119972
>>2119972
I think it's mainly because the N64 takes two separate voltages and a wall wart would have been way too damn big for two voltages, that and you'd have 2 barrel connectors probably.

Although... they could have just made an AC->DC converter internally but it still would have stuck out somehow.

>>2120721
If you don't mind me asking, what's the big white adapter for?

>>2121819
>It's doing something in the water

Holy shit electrolysis dumbass.

>>2121819
I doubt you get knowledge from anywhere except youtube

>>2121978
Thats my radioshack brand Snes power brick from 18 years ago
Never had an official one

this is a consumer protection thing

nintendo had tons of issues with third party ac adapters with the snes in particular and realized the only way to stop the issues was to make a proprietary PSU

the reason they didn't go with an NEMA cord was to make failed PSU replacement easier and because money

it has to do with japanese qa wanting to control as much as possible

>>2120848
I think the main problem with the brazilian standard is that they didn't bother to adapt at least the J standard.

Here is a list of plug standards:
http://www.worldstandards.eu/electricity/plugs-and-sockets/

C is by the way the Euro standard, it is can be used with a with a lot of other standards. Since I live in Germany the F Standard is used for grounded electronics and the C is used for the not grounded stuff. Both are symmetric so you can fit the plug in both ways, which is nice.

I heard the power supply was so big because it also supplied power to the Jap only 64DD addon.

>>2122356
That sounds like a very likely theory