/vr/ - Retro Games

Why you hating on 80 scifi art?

>>2114846
Nothing wrong with it, but that one look horrid. The japanese look silly though, but not that much.

>>2114846
that's art
>>2114843
that's an abomination

I remember reading an article by the guy who did the MM1 art. Basically the assignment was shoved onto him in the last minute and he had to complete it in a single night.

>>2114843
That looks more in line with a typical action game/toy from the 80s than this:
>>2114857
which is basically a wide-eyed Saturday morning cartoon screenshot. Remember, animu did not exist in the 80s and early 90s USA, other than some direct to VHS releases and awful, experimental Dragonball dubs.

Context is a wonderful thing.

Japs did the same shit, but backwards.

Crash Bandicoot 3: Kawaii Ugu~ edition

>>2114925
Well, at least still looks like Crash.

The lengths they went to in order to dejapanize the games of the time could get really ridiculous. Come on, was the idea of the anime stylistic so alien to the American demographic that they had to flat-out remake games from the ground up for it? Not that I oppose the idea of nazi flail-wielding robots on flying surfboards, but still.

>>2114931
Always find the american cover for snes games really ugly. That black border ruins it.

>>2114925
It doesn't look so different from USA crash.

>>2114945

nah, the original ones are way better. Jap crash looks like a puppy.

>>2114938
The japanese is ugly, but they actually look like the game characters.

>>2114843
Rushed, shitty illustration. Created literally at the last moment by what appears to be an amateur, since the perspective is out of whack.

The other games got better art. If not really more representative of the content.

>>2114969
>japan

>>2114973
That looks awful. Should have a close up of CGI renders of the characters. Do they even into art?

>>2114843
>>2114961

I love how Mega Man's just running around with a handgun. Would that handgun shoot the other power's or what

>>2114925
Yup. It's really interesting to see the reverse, how Japs tried to market US games.

>>2115010
This is my favorite Jap cover.

Realistic American style guy with blue animu hair.

Hilarious. And no, we didn't get this one, we got a surrealistic cover with some guy fighting robots on a staircase in space.

>>2114961

>>2115010
The Jap version actually had different graphics didn't it? Like more animu looking ones?

>>2115026
Not that I recall, but the spell names were FUCKED in the JP release. They were all gibberish. A few classes were named differently, as well, like Cleric being "Sister," as in a nun.

>>2115024
Yeah, they are well aware of this stuff over at Capcom.

>>2115032
Didn't realize some faggot put a watermark on that until just now. This game brought to you by ebaum's world.

>>2115010

what is more funny is how hardcore were jap games in the 80-90's but most of foreign releases in Japan were casualized like Spyro or Battletoads.

>>2115032
MM10's Protoman is possibly cooler than his actual design, I love it.

>>2115040
Probably because japs are a little resentful about stuff that is not made by them.

>>2115040
Holy shit, that logo. Spyro and Ripto combined. It's blowing my mind, here.

>>2114954

>>2115045
That's where Ripto's name came from. That's just the Japanese for Supairo, the Japanified word for Spyro, but then Insomniac looked at it, said "hey that looks like it says Ripto, that'd be a cool name for a bad guy" and the rest was history.

>>2115064
I always felt bad when I had to abandon him.

>>2115040
Ripto is Spyro in japanese?

>>2114931
>was the idea of the anime stylistic so alien to the American demographic

Yeah, it actually was. Name one anime that was popular in America or Europe (minus France) during the late 80s/early 90s. The closest I can remember would be Transformers.

>>2114931
The anime style still is alien to everyone outside of Japan or the internet. Look at Zelda's sales going into the toilet everywhere except Japan since they went anime.

>>2115073
スパイロ
actually, which reads spyro

>>2115073
It's says "スパイロ", but the way the letters are drawn it looks like "Ripto"

>>2114919
>nigga don't know about Voltron.

>>2114954

>>2115010

>>2115081
>>2115082
Does that mean Ripto is pronounced "Liputo" in the Jap versions?

>>2115092
リプトー
Riputo

>>2115092
リプトー (Riputoo)

But their pronunciation of R does sound like an L, sort of. Instead of using their lips to form the sound, they quickly run the tip of their tongue across the alveolar ridge (behind the top set of front teeth).

It's hard to explain, but easy to do.

>>2115089

saved, thanks anon

>>2115089
10/10.

>>2114973
Also the PAL cover. Brought it over with me from the UK. Really hate that stupid US box art.

>>2115018

don't forget his LAZER NIPPLES

>>2115162
That one is a better cover, I just like the Japanese one because it looks like it'd be the American cover, but it isn't.

Best

>>2115010
The Japanese version came first.

>>2115026
The tiles on the Apple 2 were very simple and the other ports of the time weren't much better. The NES had the same graphics as the Famicom.
http://www.hardcoregaming101.net/ultima/ultima4.htm

>>2114919
Ever heard of Speed Racer? I'm sure there's other examples too.

>>2115430
Astro Boy, Gigantor, Kimba, Tranzor Z, Battle of the Planets, Starblazers

>>2115380
Underrated post... Dat file name

>watch megaman perform bestiality on rush

I wonder how many radars that flew under

>>2115010

>>2115380
>Mit paBwort Funktion!

Every time, goddamn.

Pewdiepie is https://m.youtube.com/#/watch?v=ce_lKogOdHk

>>2115742
bitch looks hotter in the japanese version

>>2115380
Besides the silver armor megaman, everything else looks epic.

>>2115751
Oh boy! I hate it when a game makes me use a save file. Thank God for based paBwort funktion.

>>2114961
did they mix up dr light with wily? is he supposed to be commanding the bad bots or being kidnapped here?

>>2115751
>>2115937
You can use ss if you don't have a ß on your keyboard.

>>2115957
>>2115957
I think the world has had enough German SS for a while.

America vs Japan

>>2115974
>stormtrooper
>monkey
>goat
My sides.

>>2115974
Dat ass

>>2115979
You mean Baphomet.

>>2115979

>goat

You got it right, it's GOAT. You have fucking Baphomet and a brazilian in a exploding background.

>>2115984
Racism, here?

>>2116027
on 4chan? never...

>>2115074
>Transformers
>Anime

Transformers is an American franchise anon, the scripts and stuff, storyboards, etc were all done in the US and the animation was outsourced to the Japs. It's a cartoon.

>>2115974
America most definitely won this round.

>>2116193
Huh, wouldn't that mean they at least know of the animation style?

>>2116193
Transformers belongs to Takara.

>>2116201
Anime is not a style. It's just a name for animation produced in Japan for the Japanese market.

I've been looking at GB/GBC boxes a lot lately, and so far, only one box looks better in the american version. (IMO)

Pic Related

>>2114916
Still doesn't excuse the shitty anatomy. I can get shoved a surprise task too, but in all cases I still know what a human being looks like.

Just look at that american one.
Come on, any kid would be disappointed after playing the game expecting it to be like that.

Also, this.
They turned him green, for fucks sake.

>>2114843
Cocaine, that's why

>>2116478
That's probably more about avoiding controversy than anything else. Jap box is way too brvtal for America.

>>2115042
I never get tired of the fact that Rock's just all BY THE POWER OF GRAYSKULL while he's just blasting a nigga he isn't even looking at

>>2115380
Probably the most accurate western NES Mega Man cover.
Pretty much just shows the main character, his new sidekick, the eight main bosses, the antagonist and the mysterious new character you don't know anything about yet.

>>2116461
>They even had to make the fucking colorful puzzle games angry and edgy.

>>2116478
>dat klan member

>>2115079
That's not true, at least not for teenagers.
I was kind of a substitute teacher for some time, all the kids draw only animu style now. It's insane.

sometimes it looks cool either way

>>2115079
I thought Zelda had close to no popularity at all in Japan?
In general they just like the weird shit we've never heard about.

>>2116478
Is there like a reason anything red has to be green? I understand changing monster blood from red to green to differentiate from human blood making it seem like ooze, but did they really need to make that guy green? Why not purple or another dark color?

>>2116526
Superior cover coming through.

>>2116535
>I thought Zelda had close to no popularity at all in Japan
Are you serious?

>>2116536
Looks like Satan, I guess.

Though on the cover of Gargoyle's Quest II Firebrand is red, so I don't know.

>>2116540
>superior
>censored them into robots

>>2116532
this reminded me of something

which one looks better?

>>2116541
https://www.google.com/?gfe_rd=cr&ei=AdOIVLrDF8ecwwODqoGADQ&gws_rd=cr&fg=1#q=zelda+popularity+in+japan

>>2116552
>Implying robots aren't cooler than muscular dudes.

>>2116553
The one on the right, obviously. The original name and the globe also relate a lot more to the actual game.

>>2116508
Why even make the pink ball always angry?

>>2116508
GRRR I'M FUCKIN' HARDCORE! THIS ISN'T SOME PUSSY SHIT ABOUT COLOURFUL BUBBLES AND CUTE DINOSAURS THIS IS FUCKING BRUTAL HEAVY METAL SHIT THAT'S GONNA GOUGE YOUR FUCKIN' EYES OUT GRRR

>>2116508

If you think Tetris Attack doesn't deserve angry and edgy boxart, then you haven't played it on a high level, because angry and edgy is exactly what you'll end up being. Shit's hardcore as fuck.

>tfw you end up in a multiple minute long garbage battle with the very hard AI on one of the late boss levels and lose just because you were a split second too slow, ruining your perfect run after about half an hour of playing and forcing you to start over

Makes you want to punch the fuck out of shit, but it's incredibly satisfying when you do get it right.

>>2116553
I don't really like either. Neither represents the game very well, but I guess I prefer the Jap original.

>>2115442
>>2114919
Ronin Warriors, Dragonball, Sailor moon, and a bunch of other animes were also on Network TV in the 80s and early 90s

>>2114938
>dat fucking square head

>>2116468
Game Boy games in general seemed to have suffered from this trope the most. The game's box art portrayed the game as really fucking badass and brutal, while the game was just another cutesy Japanese game.

Take a guess as to what the game was actually like. I dare you.

The reason is because American culture is pathologically obsessed with machismo, so marketers believe that catering to this deep insecurity with realistic artwork, grimaced faces, and emphasis on weapons will maximize the product's appeal.

>>2116963
>cute Gojira adventures

I played it before.

Regardless, it's definitely not as bad as Atari boxarts.

Sometimes I wish someone remade these games based on the cover art.

>>2116985
>as bad as Atari boxarts.
May I ask how old you are?

>>2116991
24. I don't see why that's relevant, though.

>>2117002
The Atari Boxart was intended to fire your imagination, that rad art on the cover was the main selling point.
Yeah when you got home the games amounted to pixellated triangles and squares but it was the imagination that still held and helped immerse you into the game.

Kids just don't "get it" these days, with their newfangled snazzy graphics and high speed Interwebs they've lost the power of imagination.

>>2117023
Never worked that way with me, though. My first console was a 2600 and all I felt was disappointment because the games looked nothing like the boxart.

>>2117028
Did you ever own an action figure?

One kid may see a cheap molded hunk of plastic faintly resembling something from a movie, what's the fun in that? Whilst to another kid it's a beckoning hand to infinite adventure and excitement.

>>2117028
Not the one you've been talking to, and idk about you or anyone else actually, but when I played my first 2600 game I actually felt awe. It was "cool", "awesome".

Interactible blocks on the TV screen was magic and yes I imagined that those blocks are spaceships, dragons, etc. like what the boxes depicts. The same sort of thing that made kids hold a wooden stick and go pew-pew like it was a real laser gun.

Japan also fucks it up sometimes.
The jap cover looks nicer, but the US one more truthful to the game.
I always think "who the fuck are those two" when playing the game. At least in the US box they are there, even if I still have no clue of who they are.

>>2117028
How do you feel about SMS covers?
Are you pleasantly surprised when the games turn out to be more than just graph paper?

But there are also times when I have a hard time choosing which one to keep.

>>2117456
Man, that Belmont on the jap cover sure looks old.

>>2117504
Guy is old as fuck in Belmont's Revenge.

>>2116558
>not liking muscular dudes

What are you, gay?

Obligatory.

>>2115386
>The Japanese version came first.
Still originally based on an American game

>>2117554
The original cover was completely different though and also used for Japanese releases aside from the Famicom and MSX.

>>2117548
The american version still looks pretty cool, but I can imagine that people might have felt ripped off when buying the game.

>badass barbarian on cover
>buy game
>everything's so bright and colorful and not barbarianish
>tfw

>>2117456
I think this is literally the only boxart where I can't decide which one I like better. I guess it's because of the lack of contrast between them, the japanese one still looks very western.


>>2117536
Only robot shotas are cooler than muscular dudes. I'm totally not gay though, of course.

>>2115184

This doesn't have an US or EU version though

>>2116558
>>2116558
>denied
Playing as Rambo lookalikes is cooler than Johnny 5.

>>2116712
My brother always played as Kamek and he was very good, that repeating chorus of "hocus-pocus, hocus-pocus" still haunts my memory.

>>2117698
Anyone born after Rambo II disagrees

>>2116478

I found this cart at funcoland once upon a time.

>>2115442

Force 5- (Gaiking, Starzinger, Danguard Ace, Grendizer and Getter) Robotech, Captain Harlock, (in the Northeast anyway)

>>2115742
I enjoy Steve Purcell's artwork. :3c

>>2114843
The PAL covers for Mega Man 1 and 2 were vastly superior to all others.

>>2117909
Also 2

>>2117587
You know, I always wish it was localized as "Puzzle Bobble" in the US, it just sounds like a nicer name. "Bust-A-Move" makes it sound like a rhythm game and if you liked Bubble Bobble, you might want to play this game but wouldn't know from the title or cover that it was a spinoff of such.

>>2115042

>>2117971
topkek

>>2116461

So they already had the original Panel de Pon, which was then turned into Tetris Attack with Yoshi and co for the west - and that one was then brought back?
Makes you think if it was a success, would anyone who already had the games as PdP buy it a second time just for Yoshi and Bowser?

>>2117909
I always liked that one, it's comically accurate. It looks more like some lovefull joke pic than an actual cover illustration.

>>2117909
>>2117912
You know, with these covers I can get behind the
>STATE-OF-THE-ART
>HIGH RESOLUTION GRAPHICS

while I aboslutely cannot with this one
>>2114843

>>2118012
That happens sometimes. Animal crossing was a Jap N64 game, ported to GC in Japan with extra features, localized with extra features to appeal to westerners, then re released in Japan with the western features.

>>2116978
>pathologically obsessed with machismo
>deep insecurity
nigga it just looks fucking cooler, and most people like cool over cute, especially boys which most of these games were aimed at.

>>2116712

yeah all the games in the series are great, and have a ton of difficulty options

>>2118220
Goddamn that's a good playthrough. I can never get combos like that, I always find myself cherry tapping with lots and lots and lots of small chains, and then try to get a few small combos whenever there's a huge pile-up and I have the time for it, but I can never do it like in the beginning of that clip.

I think I reached my limit when I 1cc'd Very Hard mode of Puzzle League, and that's not even the hardest difficulty of that game. Fun as hell to play at least, just wish I wasn't such a scrub.

I know it wouldn't be retro, but are there any games in the series newer than N64? I'd love to try to sharpen my skills by, say, playing online against someone at this game.

>>2116193
>Transformers is an American franchise
>being this retarded

>>2118438
>being this retarded

>>2118220
The board is way too small in Pokemon Puzzle Challenge to be really great. It's a shame the GBA version was so lifeless.

>>2118438
>>2118438
As a Transformers fan: Fuck you. Transformers is American, or at the very least, 50% American.

The original 84-85 toys were not developed as "Transformers." They were disparate toylines called Diaclone and Microchange. Hasbro saw them at a toy fair, bought the rights, and paid Marvel Comics (primarily Jim Shooter and Bob Budiansky, who wrote the comics) to come up with a storyline for these unrelated robots to fight each other.

The comics were 100% produced in America, and written by Americans. (Except the UK comics by Simon Furman and Marvel UK.) The cartoons were 100% written by Americans (Flint Dille et al) and animated by a variety of animation studios, some in Japan and some in China.

When Hasbro ran out of toys (1986) they had new characters created by the writers of the movie (Flint Dille), Hasbro's guys, and Floro Dery, who is foreign but not Japanese and worked for Sunbow/Marvel. These designs were then ENGINEERED by Japanese people who worked at Takara.

These days Hasbro and Takara 50% create most of the toy content that isn't based on cartoon designs (American) or live action movie designs (definitely American). So you can fuck off.

>>2118438


the transformers as we know them, the actual characters and the factions, are 100% American. their character profiles were created as a work for hire by marvel comics. what makes the transformers, "the transformers" instead of "random Japanese toylines featuring transforming robots", was created in america

>>2115162
Actually that cover is probably better. You have the satellite planet, the moons, all plot relevant shit. And it all starts with Prince Rhys. Who is blocking lazers. fuk year

>>2114931
Reminds of this. While the game itself (graphics-wise, at least) was more or less left unaltered, the box art is ridiculously inaccurate to point of false advertising. I actually know people who bought this under the impression that it was a weapons-based fighting game. What they got instead was a cutesy magical girl platformer.

>>2115974
I never saw the cover of this game before.

So seeing a gaint goat man at the end really throw me threw a loop.

>>2115091
Uhm, you don't seriously think that Double Dragon WASN'T already a Japanese game/franchise, do you?

To me it was always nonsense, the animu community in the US was HUGE in the late 80', so much people were importing VHS from Japan at insane price and put subs on them in huge numbers.
Animu styled vidya would have sold more if anything.

>>2114843
Reminds me of

>>2114843
you hating on the BEST megaman?

too bad most didn't get the reference in the fightan, forget which didnt play

I'd like to see him again as an alternate skin or even a hidden playable character in an actual new mega man series game, not just muh 8bit retro

>>2118562
It didn't said anything, just that not all japanese covers have manga style.

>>2119403
Manga isn't a style.

>>2119406
You're right. It's a way of life.

>>2117909
Dr. Wily looks so badass in this one

>>2118556
>cutesy magical girl platformer
is it any good?

>>2117717
WOW. That's a name I haven't heard in years. Ever heard of Video Game Swappers? That was another childhood /vr/ paradise for me, up until it disappeared around my senior year of high school.

>>2119694
its actually fast as sanic and you can parry with the sword street fighter 3 style

>>2119735
also you hold R to run

>>2119735
I'm not sure how I feel about fast platformers, but the parry does sound interesting.

>>2118556
Ooh, the girl from the sequel looks pretty good.

>>2118364
That webm is a TAS.

Both are actually pretty good representations of the game.

>>2117449

It's like they didn't even try with some of them.

>>2117449
>>2121120
Does someone have that God Hand edit of a SMS cover?

>>2121125

>>2121127
Thanks. Never fails to give me a giggle.

>>2115010
Japanese version looks better.

>>2117449
>>2121120
I never got the gripe people have with these covers, I think it's neat that they're all pretty consistent, and the simplicity is pretty pleasing.

>>2117548
They all look pretty good.

>>2115010
The japanese version in that comparison was the original. The english one was redone for the US release of the NES version of Ultima 3.

This was the original western cover art of the computer versions.

Fun fact: Many of the illustrations included in the instruction manuals of the original Ultima games were ripped off by small Japanese developers and as used as game artwork, which Richard Garriott discovered when he visited trade shows in Japan and was shown his own company's assets.

>>2114984
Or why Doctor Light is ordering Wily's robots to attack Mega Man.

>>2115074
speed racer

>>2115032
I liked the massive anal devestation of including American boxart Megaman in SFxT caused.

>>2121152
In my opinion its the consistency that makes it worse. That's what I dislike most about most western releases of games.

Look at things like SFC releases compared with SNES. Japs get a little SFC logo in the corner while the west has 1/3rd of the entire cover covered huge black strips with pointless shit saying SUPER NINTENDO and "ONLY FOR NINTENDO"

>>2115032

>>2121152
They're kind of neat from a design perspective, but if you're a kid in the 80s, and you see that, you're not going to be very enthused.

>>2114961
ouch my left foot

>>2118364
Yes. You have Puzzle Collection for the Gamecube, but you will have to grab a rom of the game. Your other option is Puzzle League for the DS, but unfortunately there is no longer any wifi play for the DS.

>>2120249
No, it's really not. A TAS would be much more impressive than this. Search some on youtube. This is obviously just a skilled panel de pon player.

>>2118364
Also, if you want to get good at these, play the practice mode a lot. Playing in slow motion is necessary for building the muscle memory to get the combos. Also, look at puzzle mode if you need your brain to memorize silly ways that combos can happen.

>16 combo with garbage
>8 combo without
it's not even that good...

>>2118438