/vr/ - Retro Games

>>2113392
I've never seen that controller in my life and I've been a collector since the N64 was released, worked at Babbage's at the time even.

Anyway, based Hori is generally accepted as best. Regular N64 controllers are certainly questionable on a number of levels.

This is my favorite third-party controller ever.

>>2113392

How the fuck do you use the analog stick on that thing? With your mouth?

>>2113414
I assume you grip the middle portion from the left, the same as a regular N64 controller.

>>2113402
This is the only acceptable answer

>>2113407
Those feel exactly like a first party pad. The added turbo option pretty much makes it better. It must be because they're made in Japan.

>>2113402
I can't imagine playing Mischief Makers on that tiny thing, the d pad is way too close to the buttons....

>>2113402
How is the analog on that hori controller is as fragil as the regular one?

>>2113407
what does the auto and slow switches do?

>>2113407

Same, I enjoy both the ASCIIpad and the Super Advantage. I'm too wary to try any other third parties, and I only go first party for my N64.

Not retro but GameStop actually sells a pretty decent GC controller.

>>2113451
Auto is Automatic Turbo without needing to hold the button.
Slow is literally just Auto Turbo for the Start button, creating a "slow motion" effect in any game using the Start button to pause.

madcats general / Player 2 general

>>2113527
Kek, actually that's pretty cute.

mfw most of my childhood was PC games and as far as 2004 I kept playing sometimes playing emulators with my brother with a single keyboard.
It works!

>>2113407
>Turbos in a non-retarded position
>Face-button L and R along with shoulders
>That D-Pad

Step it up Senpai

>>2113565
so...
just a Sega pad then

>>2113429
So use a fucking normal controller.

You aren't required to destroy every normal N64 controller you own when you buy a Hori Mini.

Just going to outright say Sega's own Genesis arcade MKII stick was the only way I managed to beat quite a lot of the Genesis games I had. The only reason its retired now is because I have not bothered to buy an adapter for it.

>>2113418
>grip the middle portion that has no grip
thanks for clearing that up

I never had many of them, but I really liked this one.
Felt like the original one, with turbo buttons.

>>2113418
Are you one of those people that insist you're not supposed to grab the middle grip to use the analog and instead hold the left and do a ridiculous reach? there's a contour and button on the middle grip for a reason

>>2113402

I really want one of those. This one is probably just as good, though. Loved this thing. Wish mine still worked. Might try to learn how to repair it.

>>2113447
no, it's solid

>>2113647
THANK YOU BASED ANON! I used to have one of those as a child and thought it was FUCKING AMAZING!
I could remember exactly what it looked like I just couldn't remember than damn name

>>2113392

>>2113607
I'm just saying they might as well get rid of the dpad altogether. It looks practically unusable.

>>2113392
Generally ASCII-ware made good third party controllers. the SNES advantage is solid, and the gamepads aren't bad either.
>>2113402
is also apparently really good.

I tend to avoid 3rd party controllers, mostly due to cheap feeling or poor build quality from my experience.

>>2113656
>are you one of those people that suggests the right way to hold the controller since forever?

You are supposed to use your right-hand middle finger to press de Z button, index to press R and thumb to press the others face buttons. Your left hand should be on the left grip to be able to quickly press L wiht your index finger and to release the analog to press the D pad.

Of course it all works only with you have amn hands, with are some kind of manlet you should use the inferior way and hold the middle grip.

>>2113829
>Looks awesome
>Actually mushy, fragile typical Madcatz garbage

>>2113673
Man that transparent one looks much better than the too-glossy black one.

>>2113848
>Of course it all works only with you have man hands, if you are some kind of manlet you should use the inferior way and hold the middle grip.

>>2113848
what game uses this?
why did they design a childs toy for man hands?
do you know how silly you sound?

The "classic" Atari controller was pretty good despite but the Epyx is better.

It's pretty hard not to improve on the 5200 controller although there are only two and they both fetch a pretty handsome price. The Wico analog one seems a bit more popular, but I think the OEM stick is acceptable for those few games that require analog control plus I don't love the feel of big analog joysticks so I have the Coin Controls one. It's basically just like their common C64 one except it's 5200 compatible.

It's pretty hard not to improve on the 5200 controller although there are only two and they both fetch a pretty handsome price. The Wico analog one seems a bit more popular, but I think the OEM stick is acceptable for those few games that require analog control plus I don't love the feel of big analog joysticks so I have the Coin Controls one. It's basically just like their common C64 one except it's 5200 compatible

>>2113856
but nothing beats TAC-2

>>2113901
I have one of those too. The metal plate has come loose and I prefer the Epyx microswitches, but the Epyx IS relatively fragile compared to other controllers of the era

>>2113407
This. Asciipad is so close to the official controller that you can even switch cables by simply plugging in the other. Which is pretty sweet because the biggest gripe about the asciipad is that the cord is too short.

>>2113829
only madcatz worth owning is a tournament stick. everything else is & always will be shit.

>>2113656
No, I meant "from the left" as in your left hand should be under the left side of the middle grip. Sorry if I worded it confusingly.

>>2114114

Wouldn't you just be left with your fingers awkwardly curled around the bottom of the controller, though?

>>2114121
There should be a bit of a grip under there with the Z trigger. I haven't seen the underside of the controller, so I don't know if it's comfortable or not.

The problem with the N64s controller is that hardware designers and software designers were very much on different pages. The hardware designers added the analog stick to an already proven design and adapted as best they could to support it, using their powerful left-brains and somewhat weak right-brains.

Then the software designers got a hold of it, said "Jesus this is great!" and made it the default control for damned near everything, which begs for the controller to be redesigned outward from the analog stick just for some reason that never happened and to this day, most of us are stuck with neptune's controller when we just want to play some Banjo or something.

>>2114127
I really don't get that opinion. 3d was new back then and having a dpad and the stick be separate makes sense. No game ever makes you use both so why have both be accessible at the same time?

Nintendo's controller is the best imo.

>>2114138
>No game ever makes you use both
>being this retarded

>>2114149
It's not using both. Gives you the option of either or. Unless you're just be an autist then well ya /vr/ sure is going down the tubes.

>>2114149
are you? You don't use the c buttons and the d-pad. And most NORMAL people use the c buttons for looking anyways.

You disgusting lefty.

>>2113656
>little brother playing N64
>"this controller sucks"
>look at him playing, he's holding the controller with the left grip trying to use the stick
>correct his grip so he's holding the middle
>one minute later he's holding it the wrong way again
>"this controller sucks"

>>2113392
Fucks sake, I've been looking for a picture of the back of this controller off and on all day. I need to know, is the back recessed in such a way that you can hold it from the middle and use the analogue stick comfortably? And where's the Z button?? And what's the deal with this new captcha?

>>2114182
>find out next time on DRAGON BAAAAALLLLLL ZEEEEEEEEEE

>>2113829
Fuck. You.

>>2114297
Kek.

>>2114297
Dragon, dragon, rock the dragon. dragon baaaall z! Aeeeyaaaeeeya!

>>2113993
the SUPER SFIV and SFxT fightpads are good
i heard bad things about the vanilla fightpads

>>2113402
>Regular N64 controllers are certainly questionable on a number of levels.

What else is inherently wrong with them other than the analog stick?

>>2114736
>Another Nintendrone set to defend the bizarre N64 controller

>>2113856
What is the name of that stick? I went through a few of those for my Amiga - easily my favourite stick of all time.

>>2113407
I had one of these when I was a kid, and I absolutely loved it. Preferred it to the normal controller, even if the turbo function was mostly useless.

>>2114739
If you don't like it because of ergonomic reasons that's subjective. There really isn't anything inherently wrong with it. Ya the analog stick could be better,

>>2114739
The shape of the wings are actually pretty comfortable.
Sure, it looks like it was made for some one with three arms, but the shape wasn't a bad idea.

>>2114164
>And most NORMAL people use Solitaire.

ftfy

>>2114813
>le epic three arms/three hands may may
>inb4 le epic may may may may

whatever. I just tired of seeing the "three ___" shit everywhere. It's fucking retarded. Sorry anon, I'm not picking on you.

Had this. Wish I still had. Would survive a nuclear blast. Nothing beat this and Tekken 3 and Soul Blade.

Love the high frequency Saturn controllers.

>>2113565
I own one of these and they it is awesome. Mandatory for sf2

>>2114987

Did anybody here have the AsciiWare SNES Arcade Stick?

A buddy of mine had one, and he said it was like it was made of hardened steel.

I'm tempted to get one.

>>2115143
Yes. It's a very good stick. Not made of hardened steel but a decently thick steel plate on the bottom.

hori fight sticks

>>2113392

>>2113392
It's like if the normal n64 controller had it's penises cut off.

>>2115432
penises look about 4chan standard size

This motherfucker right here.

>Sends digital inputs using the analog sticks

Imagine Megaman Legends actually being FUCKING PLAYABLE.

>>2113647

I had one from the same company, SN Programpad, I still have the manual, but I don't have the pad anymore, not sure what happened to it.

You could do crazy shit with it like program button commands and stuff, it was useful for games like Mortal Kombat.
Though I remember I barely used the programming function, I just used it to play DKC2 because I got it the same day I got that game, and it was a comfy pad

>>2115490

It's not like it makes a big difference because MML still was programmed to be played with a d-pad, the analog stick still functions like a d-pad.

I played it on the N64 and even though you can use the 3D stick to move around, I prefered to use the dpad.

>>2115481
Don't you mean Japanese?

>>2113673
This controller is unusable garbage. I've used one for PC gaming with an adapter, and the left grip is at a fucked up angle that makes precision movements on both the D-pad and analog stick nearly impossible, and the D-pad itself is garbage that will blister your thumb anyway.

SG pro pad 9 for Megadrive.
A six button controller that fits perfectly in the hand, only problem is that huge slow motion button and start button placement

>>2115531

Do you have very small hands and delicate skin, anon? I used that thing for years, from when it came out until the day I wore it out. Never had those issues. Also, what game are you playing that you need to use a d-pad enough to "blister your thumb"?

>>2113853
dude, not only I was a child (5 years old), but I am a woman (which means I have smaller hands) yet I could reach those buttons...

>>2116254
/hyperbole

Last time I saw someone profess they were a female on /vr/, it was to prove a point. Shiggy diggy.

But females I knew at the time of N64's popularity (I was born in '88) had no problem with that controller.

Not /vr/ but the madcatz dreamcast controller, main thing being the analog stick that didn't shred your thumb to pieces.

>>2114752
Its an Epyx 500xj but there's models for all kinds of systems and they're all called 500xj. The classic one-button variety the 2600 and Amiga take are the most common but they're all starting to dry up. Quite common in the day but the combination of quality and only medium-durability has them disappearing now.

>>2113414
>How the fuck do you use the analog stick on that thing? With your mouth?
>With your mouth?

My fav. 3rd party controller for atari 2600. The power stick by Amiga

Only madcatz controller I remember buying was a bulky ass ps1 controller. I remember the experience vividly. It cost $9 at walmart and I was so excited because it was the last controller they had. Got it home, cut it open with scissors, and realized they had snaked the cord all along the edge of the packaging so I had cut the fucking thing in half. I almost cried.

>>2113392
This shit controller pretty much proves there were a ton of people out there who think the N64 controller was bad just because they didn't know how to fucking hold it.

>>2117771
When in reality the N64 controller was bad for million different reasons.

>>2117812
Like?

>>2116102
The grip itself has a good shape/size, it's just that the controls on the left side are at a bad angle that makes operating them difficult for me. The D-pad also doesn't have good feedback on diagonals, so it's hard to feel the exact direction being pressed with my thumb, which is made worse by the first problem.

Am I just holding it wrong or something? Pic related is how it rests in my hands during play.

>>2117889
That looks so much fucking worse than an actual n64 controller

>>2117889
>>2113673
These were the best N64 controllers!

>>2117889
That controller looks uncomfy as fuck
that said you have cute hands anon :3

>>2113392
>Were there any third party controllers that were as good or better than the original manufacturer's?
>madcatz
Can you spot the fallacy?

And quit trying to turn everything into a general.

There's nothing you can possibly discuss about these things that would extend to more than 5 threads at best.

>>2118073
that's the joke

this type of thread pops up periodically and occasionally multiple entries are in the catalog
the other thing is that madcatz is the bane of third party controllers, naming a general after that company is sarcasm.

>>2117956
yo

>>2117889
>>2117940
>>2118069
sup

>>2116102
This tho - Hori d-pad isn't even ideel

>>2118223
Looks awful, dude. Looks really terrible.

>>2118073
do you have autism? do you really think someone was seriously suggesting a madcatz general? I really do think this is the most autistic board none of you can pick up on shit like that.

>>2118223
Wow. Those are some really beautiful manly hands no homo

>>2113392
I have the same controller in green, OP!

don't listen to what all the faggots who never hold it in their hands say about this gamester controller.

it's actually really comfortable to play with. I love mine. pic is another color.

>>2116548
>putting a doomguy ripoff next to samus both laughing
>ever
>/vr/

>>2120338
Where's the A button??

>>2120530
are you fucking blind?

>>2113829
>watch a video where two jackasses go over various video game controllers
>mention their favorite controllers ever made at the end
>fat bald douche lists this as his favorite controller OF ALL TIME
>"it's a bit retro, it's a bit modern, it's all awesome"
No, fuck you. It's a bit shit, a bit garbage, all fucking terrible.

>>2120543
Yeah, I know the exact video you're talking about and I was shocked to hear him say that. I've had the Retrocon since it came out and it's fucking awful. Irresponsive, spongy d-pad that barely ever inputs diagonals correctly and the L1/L2 and R1/R2 placement is fucking stupid (The 2 buttons are on the inside where your index fingers rest, and you have to reach to hit the 1 buttons on the outside; pretty much the opposite of how your fingers rest on the standard controller)

The light-up buttons are neat but it's a novelty and nothing more. Before they made that video I hadn't touched the video since like 2004, then I busted it out again to make sure I wasn't wrong, and yeah, it's just as bad as I remember it being.

>>2113392
>madcatz general
Wait, what?

Do I smell crack?

Are we by chance talking about a different mad-cats?

>>2113428
Fucking biggot! Are you REALLY that stupid and shallow that you think some silly accessory is somehow better just because some japanese petty labourers touched it?

>>2120338
>analog stick not the same thumb distance as dpad
>says it's 'comfortable'
shit tastes son

>>2121880
taiyo yuden literally makes the best single layer dvdr media; irony

>>2121894
Evil rotten LIES!!!

Best media is made in glorious progressive multicultural singapore!

>>2113402
I don't own one of these but I'd like to say that I wish they but the d-pad to the topright rather than having the c buttons there, it seems like it would make a lot more since with most games, although it does seem real great for smash

>>2120530
Where indeed?

>>2120530
>>2120540
>>2123404
we all know he meant the z button.

where is the z button? shoulders? i can't find pics of the back

>>2124762
He was making a joke about the A button being the same shade of blue as the controller.

>>2124909
haha i didn't even look at the picture

I JUST WANT TO KNOW WHERE THE Z BUTTON IS!