/vr/ - Retro Games

Try FF7. It will keep you interested.

The first grandia is cool.

>>2102143
final fantasy 5 if you haven't tried it yet. prolly my #1 jrpg of 4th gen

Xenogears
Star Ocean The Second Story
Super Mario RPG Legend of the Seven Stars
Final Fantasy V

>>2102143
I'd say it really depends on what systems you have access to, whether you're open to emulation (some JRPGs can get quite expensive), etc.

That said, I'd recommend the PS1 Tales games (especially Eternia/Destiny II due to various refinements over previous entries) if you want to change things up from the usual turn based style with some real time, 2D sidescrolling combat (helps that most regular battles go by pretty fast when you know what you're doing), as well as Wild Arms 1 and 2 if you want a change of scenery (Wild Arms tends to use a wasteland/frontier sort of setting and draws inspiration from western themes; 3 on the PS2 rolls with its Wild West vibe if you want to keep playing past the PS1 games).

Also Chrono Trigger if you haven't played it. All around great game that still holds up quite well. SNES/DS/VC versions are the preferable way to play it though, as the PS1, PSN, and especially mobile version tend to have issues.

Anyhow, the SNES and PS1 saw a LOT of JRPGs. If you just want some general names to look into and see if they sound like stuff you'd find fun, I suppose I can list them off too.

>>2102143
Oh and my friend recommended the following but I'm still not 100% sure what to play so that's why I asked you guys. The two that I thought I might play from his recommendations upon YouTube review were:

- Suikoden
- Final Fantasy IX

I still want to hear recommendations and find out what I think would be best. I'd really like something simplistic on the equip/spells side of things.

>>2102173
I'll be emulating on my JXD device so Dreamcast or earlier are fine. Saturn won't work out though.

>>2102173
Oh and yeah I tried Chrono Trigger when I was younger circa 2000~ on ZSNES. I got stuck on the mountain climbing in the windy snow area. Years later I realized I'm an idiot for not being able to beat that part so that may be an option.

>>2102176
Kind of sad that Saturn emulation doesn't seem to have made huge strides, at least from what I've seen. You'd think there would be some decent effort to at least get Panzer Dragoon Saga working well with it, given how fucking expensive that game in particular is.

Anyhow, if you just want some general ideas of stuff to look into.
SNES
>Adventure of Hourai High
>Bahamut Lagoon
>Breath of Fire II (fan retranslation)
>Chrono Trigger
>Dragon Quest III, V
>Final Fantasy VI
>Glory of Heracles III
>Illusion of Gaia
>Live a Live
>Lufia
>Lufia II
>Metal Max Returns
>Romancing SaGa 3
>Secret of Evermore
>Secret of Mana
>Seiken Densetsu 3
>SMT I and II
>Soul Blazer
>Star Ocean (Also on the PSP as First Departure)
>Super Mario RPG
>Tales of Phantasia (The PS1 has a more refined version; reason for playing the SNES version these days is mainly to see the origins of the series, and even then you're stuck dealing with DeJap's infamous fan translation)
>Terranigma
>Treasure Hunter G
>Treasure of the Rudras

PS1
>Alundra
>Arc The Lad Collection
>Brave Fencer Musashi
>Breath of Fire III and IV
>Dragon Warrior VII (possibly the longest JRPG you'll ever play between the amount of content and dialogue pacing)
>Final Fantasy VII, IX, Tactics
>Front Mission 3
>Grandia
>Legend of Legaia
>Legend of Mana
>Lunar and Lunar 2
>Parasite Eve
>Persona 1 and 2
>SaGa Frontier 1 and 2
>Star Ocean: The Second Story (Also on the PSP as Second Evolution)
>Suikoden I and II
>Tales of Destiny and Eternia/Destiny II (Also the PS1 remake of Phantasia; games get more refined over time going from Destiny to Phantasia PS1 to Eternia)
>Threads of Fate
>Vagrant Story
>Valkyrie Profile
>Wild Arms 1 and 2 (3 on the PS2 is also really good from what I hear and goes full wild west)
>Xenogears

Might be a few ARPGs and SRPGs strewn around in there, but that should be plenty of ideas to look into. Just be aware that some of them require fan translations to be patched in.

>>2102143
Star ocean the second story

Grandia

Only 16-bitters or later? Just assuming, cuz of the games you've listed.

Try:
Lunar I&II SCD/PSX.
Popful Mail SCD.
Vay SCD.
Final Lap Twin TG16/PCE.
Phantasy Star II and IV MD/Genesis (III is a sidestory and not necessary to play).
Brave Battle Saga MD/Genesis (with English patch).
Final Fantasy IV/II, V (with English patch) and VI/III SNES.
Robotrek SNES.
7th Saga SNES.
Persona I, II-Tsumi (with English patch) and II-Batsu PSX.
Breath of Fire I, II (SNES), III and IV (PSX).
Wild Arms I and II PSX.
Chrono Cross PSX.

Those jump immediately to mind.

I had a huge post about the Phantasy Star series ready to go and then Chrome crapped out and ruined everything.
So now I will just say try the Phantasy Star series.

>>2102238
Data center girl is my waifu.

>>2102245
I hope you two are very happy together

Lunar 1 and 2
Phantasy Star 4
Breath of Fire 4
Wild Arms 1 and 2

My top 5 RPGs:

Baldur's Gate 2 (Windows)
Dark Sun: Shattered Lands (MS-DOS)
Fallout (Windows)
Final Fantasy 7 (PSX)
Lunar 2: Eternal Blue (Sega CD)

A few runners up:
Final Fantasy II-USA/IV (SNES)
Phantasy Star IV (Genesis)
Vampire: the Masquerade: Bloodlines: Colons (not retro)
Langrisser 2 (Genesis/Megadrive)
La Pucelle Tactics (not retro)

Something that is a common feature in all of them: compelling story, gameplay that is fun and never grueling, good music (a must), and replayability. I am a connoisseur, you can't go wrong with any of those. I own all physical copies of all of them because they are worth it. Pic related is from Lunar 2.

>>2102267
She left me when she found out I had the Clone Lab make me an Odin for me to bum. And a Myau to watch. With thumbs this time so he can open the fucking jar.

>>2102143
I know you're probably gonna ignore this in a sea of obscure JRPGs, but I'd recommend Might & Magic: World of Xeen. The combat is kind of simplistic, but lightning fast and the game is the comfiest shit ever.

>>2102301

dead god that was a pretty game for its time

>>2102382

I meant deaR. I can't type well when Im hungry Im not tryning to go for a Nietzsche thing

though I guess it does apply

seriously though Jesus Christ these where nice

and this was all back when cutscenes where still cool

>>2102382
>for its time
>implying it doesn't look beautiful today

Also, calm down there Nietzsche.

>>2102143
emmulate the super nintendo final fantasies, those are games in which playing with the keyboard is perfectly fine, and any toaster can emulate super nintendo.

>>2102387
I was too slow with that one, and the image, too. In any event, great game.

In any event, the Genesis/CD is the only "retro" console I've bought in the modern age and it was worth every penny. Awesome RPGs, awesome shooters, awesome action-platformers. All the other stuff I listed (SNES and DOS/WINDOWs) I've had since the 90s.

mmmmmmmmmm Lucia

so pretty, so omnipotent yet vulnerable

>>2102394

Phantasy Star 4 was almost a CD game. On one hand Im glad it wasn't because I probably wouldn't have gotten the chance to play it and it was probably a smart call business wise

but man if we use Lunar 2 as a bench mark what if man, what if

also Kyra needs more love and attention art wise. She's cute a solid party member and my favorite character

>>2102415
Yeah? Everyone talked shit on Gryz and Hahn but I liked them both more than Kyra.

Anyone have an animated gif of Demi's phonon attack? So cute. Really the only reason I use her in the endgame; she's mediocre because AoE heals don't effect her.

>>2102425

Han's playable but if you take Gryz it's because you hate yourself

>>2102143
Shining Force II for Genesis. Playing the first one isn't necessary.

bump so i don't lose my list

>>2102203
>you're stuck dealing with DeJap's infamous fan translation
Speaking of which, it's worth it to get Cless' patch. The latest version only has one bug which you'll never run into whereas the other has more, and it reads a lot better to boot.

>>2105243
*for the PS1edition

>>2105218
This board is slow, your list will at least last a couple days.

Legend of Dragoon, if you want to keep going on with Sailor Moon transformations. Everyone has something akin to that.

>>2102174
I'd start with IV instead of IX and the PSP version of IV at that but either one is a pretty decent starting point for FF.

If you like how every character is different, play III/V/Tactics, if you liked the cinematic-ness of the game the most play VI and onward until X.

Suikoden is a must-play either way, especially the first 2.

>>2102143
breath of fire

>>2105270
I wouldn't start with FFIV.

>>2105359
Eh, there's really only a couple better starting points. IV has about everything about an FF game wrapped up into one package. You can easily identify what you like about the game and find more things like it.

But hey, whatever floats your boat. Play what you want to play.

I'm looking for a non-Japanese 2d or 3d fantasy themed dungeon crawler that will keep me interested for long amounts of time and isn't in the elder scrolls series.

>>2107710
It's still japan, but try the SaGa series.

In consoles though, what western RPGs exist that aren't japanese are pretty few. PC was where they thrived.

>>2107710
Baldur's Gate or Icewind Dale are probably the best places to start.

Also Darklands. Or M&M World of Xeen.

>>2107710
try shining in the darkness if you havent already

>>2107710
Might & Magic. The whole series up to 8. But don't play the first two until the end, unless you like pain.

>>2105314

The first one is quite lousy, whereas BoF 2 is ok and even has some unique stuff in it. Haven't played 3 and 4 but there was a whole thread for those here in /vr/ and I guess they're considered to be quite good.

I definitely recommend Chrono Trigger, Terranigma, Final Fantasy VI and Front Mission. Tales of Phantasia is also good, whereas Star Ocean by the same company is honestly quite bland and messy.

>>2102245
Fuck you she was my waifu first.

>>2102143

You might try the Breath of Fire series. 2 and 3 are my favorites. Star Ocean 2 is a bit more grindy but still fun.

>>2112919

3 has a great soundtrack and is pretty fun to play. Also has a decent plot.

Lufia 1 and 2, OP. They're amazing, just.... be prepared to handle it. Also, play 2 first.

>>2102143
hourai high

>>2113363

Holy shit this.

>>2113363

The first time I hear about this and goddamn this looks interesting. Thanks anon.