/vr/ - Retro Games

>tfw you like fighting games but you're not good at them and there's no one to play them with you locally

Killer Instinct:
Mr Skeltal

Who /Jack/ here?

>YuYu Hakusho Makyō Tōitsusen on the Genesis makes the port of Fatal Fury look like an absolute joke

>>2076860

To be fair, this YYH game makes almost every fighting game on Genesis look like a joke, that game is fucking good and well made as hell.

Terry, KOF 95

Tekken.

Paul / Heihachi. Deathfists in yo ass all day.

I liked how in those old games, you had all sorts of Engrish (Terry still does), but sometimes they got a native English speaker to voice someone.

Like Krauser in FF2: "You were perfect. I've met... my maaatch!" (falls down)

KOF '94 - Terry & Mai
Street Fighter Alpha 2 - Sakura & Guy
Darkstalkers Revenge - Hsien-Ko, Felicia, Pyron
Street Fighter III: 3rd Strike - Ibuki
Samurai Shodown 2 - Charlotte, Galford, Ukyo

I've always favored chicks in fighting games. I felt like they were faster and lighter on their feet.

I have come to bitch about The Last Blade...again...

>>2076847
>KoF '98
Robert Garcia
Ralf Jones
Saisyu Kusanagi

>Street Fighter 2, Alpha, 3, 4
T.Hawk
Rolento
Dudley
Rolento

>Smash
Falcon
Falcon
G&W

>Soul Calibur 2
Raphael

>Last Blade 2
Mukoro

>Capcom VS
Cammy
Captain Commando
Strider
Juggernaut

also
>tfw mains are usually low-tier

>>2076850

>>2076847

this list is ordered mildly by how much I like each game, but it's not a strict ranking, and I like all of these games

>KOF2002: K', Athena, Kula, Yuri
>Alpha 2: Akuma, Ken, Sakura
>KOF98: EX Yuri, Terry, Athena, Kyo
>Third Strike: Akuma, Elena
>Real Bout 2: Terry, Duck, Xiangfei (but I'm awful with her)
>Garou: Hotaru (used to be decent with her, but I've bene doing really badly as of late...), Dong, Butt
>Breaker's Revenge: Tia, Sho (you have to play Sho in this game, just like you need to play Ray in Karnov's Revenge)
>Vampire Savior: Lilith, Talbain, Hsien-Ko
>Waku Waku 7: Tesse
>Karnov's Revenge: Ryoko (I fucking wish -- there's nothing as good as landing the fire wheel grab, but she outright cannot approach anyone in the cast effectively), Ray (WHEEL KICK)

>>2077102
Instead of bitching, remind folks what a fucking awesome game it is.

I haven't put nearly enough hours into it to git gud, but it's so fucking silky.

>>2077102
Instead of bitching, you should remind people what a joy it was to play.

I'll never put in enough hours to git gud, but it's just so fucking silky.

>>2077525
>Dong, Butt

>>2076847
>that feel when your wearing the original fatal fury hat.
>While playing at local neo geo cab
God I love neo geo

>Tekken
Ling Xiaoyu
>Bloody Roar
Jenny the Bat

I always preferred 3D over 2D.

>>2076852

I played him in T6, haven't played a /vr/ Tekken in 5ever though.

>Smash
Captain Falcon
>Street Fighter Alpha 2
Guy
>Third Strike
Ken and Dudley
>Garou
Terry and Rock
>MVC2
Ken, Jill and Doom
>Tekken 3
Probably end up playing Lei or Jack

>>2079470

Actually, I should go back to Alpha 2 and try Rose, just started maining her in SF4.

>>2078376
The Last Blade is always a curiosity for me. It gets massive acclaim but the general FGC doesn't seem to know it exists.

I've had Last Blade setups running on my PS2 in the past and no one ever wants to try it. But on the Internet you can easily find people raving about it.

I personally have never been particularly taken by it but it's a decent fighting game.

My brother and I have been playing a shit ton of MvC2 lately.

All American (Guile, Captain America, Wolverine) is a fun team.

>>2076850
>>2077502
Have you tried checking facebook? Usually there is some sort of local group that you can join and meetup with.

>>2079809
>Wolverine
>American
Fucking lol

>>2079885
Canada is in America.

>>2079901
He didn't say "All North American"

>>2079905
North America is still in America M80.

Even if he were Bahamian or Uruguayan, it would still be correct.

>>2076904
BUSTAAAAH WULF!

>>2079779
The general FGC is also a bunch of dick-measuring he-banshees, why are you surprised that their tastebuds are up their arse?

>>2076850
Goddamnit

>Waku Waku 7: Politank-Z

>cvs2 : maki, hibki, cammy
>kof99 : king, whip, ryo, yuri
>kof98 : king, geese, leona
>super turbo : guile or balrog
>SFA series : sakura\rose
>tekken 3 : law
>tekken tag 1 : nina, law
>wwf smackdown : steve blackman

>>2076847
Dead or Alive 2 : Ein

>>2080148
Thanks, that's exactly what I didn't want to hear.

I'll see myself out now.

Street Fighter II - Main Dhalsim, secondary Bison
Tekken 3, 4, 5 - Main Julia, 2nd Anna/Paul
Bloody Roar - Main Alice, 2nd Bakuryu
CvS2 - Dhalsim, Bison, Blanka/Sakura

Does anyone have tier lists for old fighting games like SF2 BEFORE Super Turbo? I just love looking at those.

UMK3, SSF2T, GGX

Smoke/H.Smoke, Ryu/Sagat, Ky/Chipp

I tried, but never could get into 3D fighting games.

Is Juri good for a beginner?

Tekken - Lee Chaolan, King, Law, Yoshimitsu
( Juggling is for phags with no skill)
Blood Roar - Uriko, Long, Xion, Yugo
Street Fighter - Ken, D.Dark, Skullomania

Been playing Tekken especially from 1 to 6 (including spin offs) for years. Thousands of combos burnt into my Fingertips. UKfag would you believe.

KOF: Yamazaki, Chin and Shermie(replaced her with Vanessa in 2002)
SamSho: Hanzo
Street Fighter: Adon
Garou: Freeman
Last Blade: Mukurou
Tekken: King or Law
Fatal Fury: Bob Wilson
Darkstalkers: Talbain

>Street Fighter III: 3rd Strike: Q/Oro
>Guilty Gear: Faust
>BlazBlue: Tager (Haven't played since CT though)
>Street Fighter IV: Guile
>Skullgirls: Big Band

I played a bit of MVC2 and KOF98 back in the day, but not well enough to have mains.

Street Fighter series: Ken / sakura

Guilty gear series: Ky / bridget

Blazblue series: ragna / hazama

KOF series: Iori / kula / yuri / terry

mark of wolves: Hotaru

Tekken series: Jin

Dead or alive series: Hitomi / ein / hayabusa (even though ninjas are for fags)

>all those Kulas around

Disgusting. Literally disgusting.

>>2080654
>UKfag would you believe.

Yes, because it was my understanding that Tekken, at least the PS rev, was actually pretty fucking big in Blighty.

KOF: Maxima, Andy, Ryo
Capcom vs SNK 2: Yamazaki, Rolento, Geese
Third Strike: Alex
Tekken 3: Brian Fury
Mortal Kombat: Kano, Baraka
Cardinal Syn: Khan

Hey /vr/, I figure I should ask here since you seem quite knowledgeable about fighting games. Would anyone know where this projectile (or so it seems, it's in a MUGEN character with other miscellaneous effects) is from? Judging by the effects, it looks like it's from KoF. Reason I ask is because it's only 4 sprites, and when it hits, it doesn't have a "projectile vanished" animation. I have another effect, which will come after this post.

>>2081548
Here is the second effect. According to said character's readme, it's a move from KoF's Leona, but from which game, and which move in particular? Just like the previous animation, it has no "collision" animation, meaning it just vanishes when it hits.

Hope to hear an answer, thanks in advance!

>>2076847

>KoF '98: Heidern, Clark and Andy
>KoF 2000: Whip, Vanessa, Andy and Shingo (Striker)
>Fighting Vipers: Bahn!
>Last Blade 2: Unawakened Kaede, Moriya and Washizuka
Capcom vs SNK 2 : Joe, Dan, Rugal and Terry
Street Fighter alpha 2: Dan.

>>2081548
>>2081551
Have you tried checking the gallery section in character bios on Fighters Generation?

A lot to wade through, but at least you've got it narrowed down to Leona...

>>2081551
The second effect is from Leona's X-Caliber, the first effect would likely be a modified version of her Moon Slasher (if it is also from Leona).

Did that one anon months ago ever finish the /vr/-only version of this?

>>2081661
I usually hate gridshit like this, because there's no discussion.

But this could be okay if it weren't Xboxhuge.

What are the essentials, /vr/?

mffw that's what Yoshimitu looks like these days

>>2081678
Garou, Street Fighter till 3rd, Kof till 2002, Tekken Tag (one), SamSho, Last Blade, Virtua Fighter, maybe Fatal Fury, Rival Schools and Power Stone and that's it i guess

>>2081825
>Last Blade

Did good, anon.

I'd throw in Waku Waku 7 because reasons.

I wish Virtua Fighter kept the control scheme from 3tb.

Having an Evade button was better than tapping up or down to evade attacks.

>SSF2T
Blanka, Chun-Li, Claw
>SFA
JAGUAR KICK
>SFA2
Rose
>SFA3
Blanka, Karin Kanzuki
>SF2I
Sean
>SF3S
Makoto, Chun-Li
>Fatal Fury 3
Kim Kwapham
>KoF98
Blue Mary, King, Lucky Glauber
>KoF02
Blue Mary, May Lee, King
>MK
Scorpion
>MK2
Kung Lao
>UMK3
Rain, Kung Lao
>Samurai Shodown
Charlotte, Haohmaru
>Darkstalkers
Felicia, Anakaris
>JJBA
Iggy, Kakyoin, the cool Kakyoin

Does /vr/ still do GGPO games/threads? I've just got my stick working on PC again, would love to get some games of old KoF and SF in sometimes!

>>2081910
I disagree, I play VF a lot at tournies and meetups and I actually really like the evade mechanic now, better than the button. At first I really disliked it too, but now it just seems to work better.

>>2082254
We've got a few guys from /v/ and /vr/ in a Steam group that are trying to get a group to play some fightan vidya tomorrow.

http://steamcommunity.com/groups/theworstfighters

Primal Rage: Vertigo

>>2082258
Random Q: are you Blackstar on VFDC?

>>2081645
>The second effect is from Leona's X-Caliber
Fitting name, really, since it's shaped like an X, and the author of said character later took up on a moniker referencing said move. Any idea from which game it's from? I'm guessing it's from KoF 98, since the character was made in 2001.

>>2076847

>Mortal Kombat
Sub-Zero

>Virtua Fighter 1/2
Akira

>Street Fighter Alpha 3
Akuma

>Street Fighter III: Third Strike
Akuma

>>2082306
No, but I do post on VFDC. Why did you assume I was Blackstar?

>>2082308
Probably '98 since that was the go-to KoF for most MUGEN people.

>>2082317
>Playing starter characters exclusively
Boy, you must be fun at parties.

>>2076847
KoF 98UM: Mr Big, Brian Battler, EX Billy Kane

KoF 2k2UM: Shermie, Billy Kane, Yamazaki

Virtua Fighter (all): Wolf

Street Fighter 2: Vega (Claw)

Street Fighter Alpha series: Birdie

>>2082321
I dunno, I just see him as a very proactive guy for the community. He tries to get VF out as much as possible.

>>2082340
He does some great work with his RAW series etc. I do try to do my bit as well, got a small but solid scene growing in Toronto now. It's so good to be playing the game again.

>>2082326

I don't enjoy playing shitty characters so I'm no fun? Okey dokey.

>>2082325
According to a combo video I found, the X effect is indeed from Leona, from KoF98 to be precise. However, I've had no luck tracking down a conversion of 98 Leona, and the one I do find seems to be offline. I'll keep searching, so thanks. Still curious about the crescent one.

>>2082364
It's not the characters that are shitty, it's the players that refuse to improve on them.

I'm going to take a shot in the dark here and guess that you think tiers matter.

>>2082389
Not sure what you are saying, that tiers don't matter? Depends on the level of play and the game, but they can make a difference sometimes.

EG: Virtua Fighter outside of Japan = Tiers don't matter.
Marvel at intermediate to high level? Tiers do matter.

Vampire Hunter: Sasquatch
Vampire Savior: B.B. Hood, Hsien-Ko
KOF 98: Heidern/Leona/Saisyu
Street Fighter Alpha 2: Sodom
Last Blade: Akari
Samurai Shodown: Jubei

>>2082389

Your shot in the dark is wrong. I just play the people that I think are the coolest looking usually. Otherwise I just play the hottest chicks.

>King of Fighters
Mai

>Dead or Alive 1+2
Kasumi

Does this rustle your jimmies?

>>2082442
>I don't enjoy playing shitty characters so I'm no fun? Okey dokey.
>I just play the people that I think are the coolest looking usually.
You seem to think fun is synonymous with appearance. Not only that, but you play only the most vanilla possible choices for every game you've listed off.
I'm not mad, I'm just perplexed that you even bother playing fighting games if you refuse to touch anyone else on the roster.

>>2082419
Tiers only matter in MAHVEL. In most other fighting games characters have shifted from low to high just because someone with skill was playing that character.
There's really no point to have them other than to coddle the insecure EVO players that think they need a list to assure themselves they're doing well.

>>2082465
Hmm, I would agree that at 90% of play skill the tiers don't matter as much as the individual, but to deny that tiers can make a difference is a bit far IMO.

Look at something like 3S or Darkstalkers for example. Characters can be so much stronger inherently than others in those games that many characters just aren't viable.

>>2080675
>Guilty Gear: Faust
mah nigga!
easy to execute specials make him really fun to play - fluidly going from one combo to next
character design also cool as heck

>>2082465
It doesn't matter if you play a complex character or a beginner character if you're shit. If this guy's winning playing "vanilla" characters and he says he's having fun, so what?

Stop being so petty.

>>2082561

Thanks, bro.

>>2082561
>If this guy's winning playing "vanilla"
But he's clearly not.

>>2082561
but what if someone chooses powerfull char and is winning by pure buttonmashing and luck?

>>2082580
Says who? Your argument boils down to you being angry that this guy doesn't play characters from your list of approved characters to play and it's insanely petty.

>>2082597
Again, so what? Personally, I'd run that shit back and see if luck's on their side a second time.

>>2082597
If someone can win by 'Button Mashing' and 'Luck' you're either not a good player or the game is rubbish

IF anyone is up for some games later tonight on GGPO let us know! I'll be up for some KoF98/2k2 or SF Alpha 2. I can download others as well.

Handle on GGPO is MadeManG74

>fightan thread descends into tierfaggotry and cockwaving
You kept it up for much longer than expected, /vr/

KOF98UM: King, Geese and Chizuru (Vanessa all day e'ryday post-'99)
Alpha 3: Karin, Rose
3s: Ibuki, Ken
Last Blade: Kojiroh, Recca
Rival Schools: Kyoko and Hideo (best couple is best)
VF2: Lion, Jacky
SamSho4: Kyoshiro, Amakusa

>>2076847
>Weaponlord: Korr

>KoF '98
Kyo, EX Terry, Saisyu
>KoF 2000
Vanessa, Jhun, Kyo, Other Iori on Striker
>KoF XI
Shen Woo, Adelheid, Kyo
>Fatal Fury Special
Kim
>Real Bout Fatal Fury Special
Duck King
>Garou
Kain R. Heinlein
>CvS 2
Kyo, Rock, Morrigan (I love seeing people's reaction to the fucking sprite)
>Super Turbo
Fei Long
>Third Strike
Makoto
>Ultra IV
Fei Long
>Vampire Savior
B. B. Hood

>>2081661
I love how they have a slot for every major Street Fighter game, both MvC games, and fucking SFxT, but only one slot for KoF, as if the series hasn't changed since '94.

>>2084826
>as if the series hasn't changed since '94
It has changed, but it hasn't gotten better since '94.

>>2084826
There's one KoF slot because there's a shit ton of games in the series. That's why there isn't a year after it, it's so people can put their top 3 mains/team, if a person has year specific teams they can put that in there too. Plus the things is inflated as fuck as it is already.
Some guy was going to make a /vr/ one with a few different KoF's too.

Alexander Krysanov (born 2 January 1981) is a Russian professional ice hockey forward who currently plays for and is captain of Amur Khabarovsk in the Kontinental Hockey League.

How about this one? /vr/ likes it?

>>2085628
testin'

>>2082954

Rival Schools? I'm impressed.

>>2085738
Hope you're not implying rival schools is some obscure or underappreciated gem or something

>>2085765
Not at all, just impressed from the mention as well as character choice.

>>2085628
You traded one problem for another. Now SF is under-represented. I'll make a better one when I get home.

>>2085828
>Now SF is under-represented
I don't think so. We don't need thousands of spots for SF as we don't need thousands of spots for MK. Both had tons of games and spin-offs. And if you REALLY think you can't lump your character from SF Alpha with your SF 3rd you can always use the "Other Games" box.

>>2082507
Which Darkstalkers are you talking about? Because Vampire Savior is pretty well known for having good character balance, with low tiers regularly winning tournaments. Night Warriors/Vampire Hunter has quite a bit of tier separation, but you still have mid tiers winning tournaments and low tiers performing well (Marusa coming in 2nd at DCC twice with Felicia). I'd give you Darkstalkers 1, but hardly anyone plays that aside from the occasional lulz.

>>2085851
>Street Fighter II, Alpha, and III
>tons of games and spin-offs
Plus the fact that Street Fighter is literally the first and most famous fighting game ever, it deserves at least 1 spot for each of it's main series games, nigga fuck you.

>>2085628
>no JoJo, Killer Instinct, MvC 2, CvS or SvC games, Guilty Gear, or Soul Calibur

>>2076847
>Street Fighter 2
Cammy

>Street Fighter Alpha 3
Juni

>Street Fighter 3: Thrd Strike
Urien

>Bloody Roar
Greg/Shina

>Garou
Kain

>Vampre savior
Qbee/Rikuo

>>2086185
>Guilty Gear and Soul Calibur just for one game
>Killer Instinct
>fucking JoJo

Marvel vs Capcom is already there. What, are you going to be mad because i forgot Clayfighter and World Heroes too? You're welcome to do your own chart anytime if you disagree.

>>2081265
>Yamazaki, Rolento, Geese
weird team, but cool

>>2086510
>fuck these incredibly popular, fan favorite games, they only have one game in the series!
>still has Garou
>implying JoJo and fucking Killer Instinct (which has posts IN THIS THREAD) are obscure
Fuck off.

>>2086538
Nigga are you dissing Garou

I will fite u

>>2086538
killer instinct sucks, garou is part of the fatal fury series shithead.

>>2086542
Not dissing Garou at all, I'm showing that this faggot's logic is flawed because of what this anon said >>2086548 Garou is part of the Fatal Fury series

I was the anon who started that /vr/ template idea. I stopped because I got loaded with other stuff to do, plus another anon said he/she would stop where I had worked so far.

>>2076860
>>2076878
>>2076920
>>2077496
Okay, what the hell was up with that whole king of fighters and whatnot series, why are there so many characters though they're all so plain and not particularly distinct, though some stuff there is just weird, pic related, whatever that's supposed to be.

>>2086898
If you're going to have weird shit like Suiko Enbu you might as well cover all your bases and include stuff like Matrimelee, Cyberbots, Double Dragon, Galaxy Fight, Gowcaizer, Kabuki Klash, Ninja Masters, Operation Ragnagard, Saturday Night Slam Masters and Ring of Destruction, Savage Reign, World Heroes, and the Super Gem Fighters

>>2086548
>killer instinct sucks

>>2088264
He's right, the old KI was shit.

Fun fact: KI has no throws because the developers said "throws in fighting games are cheap"

>>2086898
too cluttered, too much stuff few people care

>>2088459
They are though, especially at the time of games like SFII.

>>2085628
You should add squares for overall companies - SNK, Capcom, etc.

>>2085645
>Anna Williams

Good taste breh

>>2080148
>>2079779
>>2078376
>>2077102

Last Blade is my favorite SNK fighter but I never find anyone to play with so I'll never get good...

>>2085628
>>2086898
?

>>2089715
looks good (except for the fonts)
i still dont think jojo deserves one entry though

>>2089715
Thanks for fixing marvel vs. capcom.

>>2089715
>No Bloody Roar
Shit list

>>2090079
>other 3D

KOF 98 UM is coming to Steam in less than a month, you can already pay for it. I would make a thread but I am on the street. Ideal for people who don't want to use ggpo or just want to show support of KOF to SNK
http://store.steampowered.com/app/222420/

>>2090331
How good is the port? I was kinda disappointed with the Metal Slug thing.

Did they change anything?

As it stands SamSho V Special is considered the go-to SamSho game besides the classic II, but do you think SamSho VI could be considered the got-to SamSho game if the hardware was better emulated? Considering VI has every character to appear in a 2D SamSho game. And don't give me bullshit about balance, SSVS was unbalanced as fuck.

The only major drawback I can see VI having is the lack of fatalities compared to SSVS and the 3D backgrounds.

>>2090496
Metal Slug X's port was a lot better than Metal Slug 3's.
Still waiting on the first one.

>>2090079
Bloody Roar is good but hardly essential.

>>2090509
For starters, is '98 actually running on my computer or did they steal an emulator for that?

Does it have Steam integration like KoF13?

How good is keyboard support?

>>2090510
And Last Blade is?

>>2091875
Yes.
Way more than Bloody Roar at least.

>>2091875
Last Blade is one of the best if not the best SNK game

>>2091879
lolno, just no.

I like 98 less than most people.

Sorry.

>>2091938
Except yeah, dude.

>>2090584
>For starters, is '98 actually running on my computer or did they steal an emulator for that?
It's Taito Type-X, which is just a series of Windows XP libraries. If they didn't port it, that's a new low.

>Does it have Steam integration like KoF13?
It probably will.

>How good is keyboard support?
Who knows? It's not out yet.

>KoF (98, 02, XIII)
Joe, Vice, Yamazaki, Vanessa, King, Ramon, Yuri, Clark

>Street Fighter (ST, 3rd Strike)
Makoto, Chun-li

>Samurai Shodown (2, 5 Special)
Jubei, Kyoshiro

>Last Blade 2
Hibiki, Kojiroh, Amano, Juzoh

>Garou
Jae Hoon

KoF = best fighting game rosters

>>2091945

I ain't even mad.

What's your favourite entry and why, anon?

>>2092560
Not even close.

>King of Fighters '98
EX Terry, Saisyu, Yuri

>King of Fighters XI
Adelheid, Shen Woo, Kyo

>Last Blade 2
Kagami

>Real Bout Fatal Fury 2
Li Xiangfei

>Garou
Kain

>Street Fighter ST, A3, Ultra IV
Fei Long

>Vampire Savior
BB Hood

>Third Strike
Remy

>>2093987
Alright, you beat me.

What should Last Blade be replaced with? Art of Fighting?

>>2094070
Art of Fighting is total trash. Separate Fatal Fury and Garou --- only one character from FF carries over to Garou.

>>2094072
Also, Real Bout Fatal Fury Special and 2 are better than Garou.

>>2094072
>Fatal Fury and Garou
That would mean SFIII should be separated from SF too. Not that I mind.

>>2094087
It should be.

Here goes nothing.

Here goes nothing.

Here goes something.

Is the Art of Fighting worth playing anymore? I played Fatal Fury, KOF, and other SNK games, but I tend to not have fun on the older fighting game titles. I couldn't enjoy SF2 and any KOF before SF3 and KOF '99 for example.

How are the character animations? If they're as fluid as later SNK titles, I could probably play it. Garou was my GOAT.

>>2094436
>>2094445
>>2094448
I suck at this.

>>2080152
Speaking of Waku 7, what were the parodies/references? From left to right on that image (I haven't played it in a while, so I don't remember their names)

Tank thing
>Mario
>Metal Slug

The k
>Sonic
>Umihara Kawase

The black final boss
>Dragon Quest slimes and drackies

The guy with sword
>Sephiroth
>JRPG villains

Main character
>really I don't know this one

Main female (Arina?)
>Chun Li

The old guy on the right
>Castlevania
>Joseph Joestar

>>2094458

>>2094464
>umihara kawase
dude its clearly a totoro reference

>>2094469
Totoro too, but that character design.

>>2094454
Art of Fighting 3 is extremely fluid. Like, Garou fluid. It's the same style and quality, but a bit brighter and more cartoonish. Appropriate, as it takes place in sunny Mexico, as opposed to Garou's dark, urban environment.
However, the games play incredibly differently than any other 2D fighters out there. 1 and 2 haven't aged well at all and are probably better left forgotten. 1 was a novelty at the time, and is super archaic now --- skip it unless you need to "experience" the "story." 2 looks incredibly good (though not necessarily fluid), but it has the hardest AI in any fighting game in single player and it suffers from horrible hit detection and controls all-around. 3 is SNK's attempt to emulate 3D fighters in a 2D space, and it actually kind of works. The game has a juggle-based combo system and a heavy focus on grappling and okizeme. It also has a great cast, with only Ryo and Robert returning, and lots of non-standard fighting game characters: a weirdo art student, incompetent detectives, etc. It's a shame that the only AoF 3 original who appeared in another game was Kasumi Todoh. Overall, it's extremely underrated, probably just because it's so damn different. Skip 1 and 2, though.

>>2094070
>What should Last Blade be replaced with?
>replacing LB with anything

N O
O

>>2094481
Also, it's absurd how much Kasumi suffered from translation from AoF 3 to KoF in general. In AoF 3, she has the best throw in the game and an extremely good dodge that causes characters to trip when they whiff specials against it. None of this matters in KoF, where neither mechanic would really work, so she just becomes a shit character with shit specials.
I still want to see Rody-Birts and Wang-Koh-San get brought back, though.

>>2094468
I like it.

>>2085645
>Pupa

My nigga.

Oh, I have many favorites, but for starters:
>King of Fighters 98: Leona, Heidern, Ralf, Iori, Yamazaki, Ryo
>King of Fighters 99: K, Maxima, Leona, Ralf
>King of Fighters 00: Vanessa, K, Maxima, Leona
>Samurai Shodown II: Earthquake, Haohmaru, Gen-An, Charlotte
>Tekken 4: Christie Monteiro, Marshall Law, Nina Williams, Paul Phoenix
>Street Fighter III: Third Strike: Q, Twelve, Remy, Necro
>Killer Instinct: Cinder, Orchid, Riptor, Fulgore
>Ultimate Mortal Kombat 3: Mileena, Sonya, Cyrax, Stryker
>Super Smash Brothers: Falcon, Pikachu, Link, Ness
>Marvel vs. Capcom: Gambit, Megaman, Cyclops, Captain Commando
>Guilty Gear XX: Sol Badguy, Testament, Axl Low, Venom

Trying the new template.

>>2096220
>Waku Waku 7- Mauru

My African compatriot

>>2096220
Tierwhore.

>>2097934
Uh?
The only top-tier character on that list is Kakyoin, and possibly Kasumi, although it's impossible to tell because nobody plays AoF3.

>>2094469
Totoro with a pinch of Darkstalkers' Sasquatch.

Slime plus

Anyone up to play some games on GGPO tonight? I wouldn't mind playing some low/mid level KoF or SF, but all I ever get is very high level :(

In in Ontario if that helps for connection issues (anywhere in NA should work well)

special mention goes to the shark from Fighting Layer

special mention goes to the shark from Fighting Layer

>>2098362
That pic made me sad ;_;

>>2099405
>yoshimitsu/paul

faaag

>>2100115
dat hair tho

>>2099852
I thought it was funny until I saw the gore.

Anyway, KoF 98 UM is coming to steam this month and has the original + online play. Who else is biting?

>>2100459
I'm buying, but super dissapointed they aren't using rollback netcode after fans have been demanding it since XII :/
I'll get it to play offline with friends though.

mortal kombat 9
street fighter alpha
megaman power fighters
smash bros brawl and 4
samurai showdown
king of fighters '95
darkstalkers

and thats all i got. sorry, i just dont play fighting games that often lol

>>2100941
>>2100459

KoF 13 netcode seemed fine to me

>>2100972
>brawl

Play it every other weekend with a friend of mine. It's a bit random

>>2100459
I am buying it

>>2101254
Really? Steam version was an improvement but still pretty rubbish. Maybe it's because I play offline so much I noticed it more?

>>2076847

>>2103793
>ash

>>2103793

>that mvc3 lineup

Win any tournaments lately?

>>2103793
Wow check out this faggot

>>2094469
I was just thinking the same thing, though the coloration (pink backpack, green dress) is an uncanny coincidence.

>>2103793
>Super Smash Bros
>not a fighting game
>"It's not a fighting game unless it has curvy women in cheongsam and gay guys wearing kimonos!"

>>2103846
smash babies are so defensive

>>2103846
>>"It's not a fighting game unless it has curvy women in cheongsam and gay guys wearing kimonos!"
This is actually true though

>>2103846
It's not even that. He considers fucking Power Stone a fighting game but not Smash Bros? What a faggot.

>>2104021
Or Dissidia for that matter

>>2080654

Man, don't see much love for D. Dark. Loved that guy when I was 13. Crazy dude with respirator and a crapload of weapons... can't go wrong.

Eexplosive.

>>2103846
But smash is full of gay guys... its made by nintendo after all.

>>2104030
Guile gets a D.Dark alt costume in USF4

>>2103846

Smash is a party game, a fun one.

But I think nintendo trying to remove competitiveness from it by adding bullshit like tripping should be proof enough that its not really a fighting game, given that the genre is about competition at its core.

Also all you do is camp ledges in that game at its highest level, fuck outa here.

>>2080663
>>2081265
>>2082332
>>2092835
>>2095887
>>2085645
>>2099405
>all these Yamazaki bros

Guys, what's a good way to into fightan games?

I'm trying to play a Street Fighter and can't even beat the first computer opponent with a list of special moves written down. I can play MK fine enough (not competitively, but I can beat single player at least) but I can't get this down at all. Are there any tricks I'm not getting? Any attempt at getting close to the opponent leads to me getting grabbed.

>>2104273
Which Street Fighter are you playing?

>>2104279
Super SFII Turbo.

>>2104273
Didn't classic MK have ridiculous AI that would throw you the second you were in range?

Anyway, if you keep getting grabbed, you need to learn how to throw break for what game you're playing.

>>2104280
The non-Japanese versions of that game are notorious for it's cheating AI's even at the easiest difficulty.

Get Super SFII X.

>>2104287
Holy shit you're right, it was the version of the game, I'm doing a hell of a lot better with this version.

I am 30 and Smash Bros for Wii U is my first Smash Bros game, even though I played fighting games in arcades from around 1991 till the early mid 2000s (from street fighter II to Marvel vs Capcom 2/Kof 02), and had SF2turbo, Samsho, KI and MK2 for my snes.

I think the difference is that Smash Bros isn't a pure fighting game, it is something like a competitive platformer + fighting game.
it feels very different, very simple, but also very chaotic, almost as if it owes nothing from Street Fighter II.


I main

>Street Fighter II (all versions): Blanka
>Street Fighter Alpha 2: Adon
>Street Fighter IV (all versions): Blanka
>Samurai Shodown I and II: Gen An
>Killer Instinct: Orchid
>Mortal Kombat: Baraka
>Virtua Fighter: Lau Chan
>Kof: King, Robert, Mature and Athena.
>Marvel vs: Cyclops, C Commando, Doom

>>2104320
Hmm, while I'm doing better I'm still not doing well, I'm trying to find some information to learn how to play better but all the stuff seems to be based off HD Remix; are the changes between the original Super Turbo and HD Remix substantial enough that I shouldn't be using anything from HD Remix to get better at the original?

>>2104356
Smash Bros has its roots in the Mario Bros arcade game and Bros. 3 versus mode that are older than Street Fighter. Though its obviously picked up genre features.

>>2104356

>mature and athena

My nigga

>>2099405
I like who you used for your picture of Benimaru for KoF.

I like you

bummed to see no ones showing any love

>>2104376
Smash is a Power Stone clone.

Just, holy shit did it outclass it's inspiration.

>>2104439
The original SSB came out 1 month before PS.

>>2104273
If you want to play competitive-levels in fighting games then you can't bother with the computer.
A lot of Street Fighter, Fatal Fury, King of Fighter, etc relies on mental game. The AI is bullshit and will just counter whatever it feels like. You can't trick it so to speak.

>>2104589

Playing the AI teaches you almost nothing in any fighter, but I've found it helps build a little muscle memory and reaction time when it comes to blocking, if played on the highest difficulty.

Defense being perhaps the most important fundamental you can learn in a fighting game.

http://ux.getuploader.com/yumeji/

This dude made a couple of hacks that let you use the bosses in some fighting games. (If you really wanted to use the bosses in World Warrior for some reason)

>>2076847
Ryu/Akuma

>>2104641
What does Rip Van Winkle and you choice in characters have in common?

They have no wakeup

>>2104660
*you're

>>2104660
whoa. wakeup srk is not a thing anymore? its the best move in the game brah

>>2104356
Smash is neither competitive or a fighting game.

>>2104287
>AI

>>2104941
Then why is it in EVO?

Yes.

>>2104991
Because they need some nintendo shit or fanboys will riot

>>2104991
Because people who play it kept bitching about including it with the big boys. I agree that it's fun, but it sure as hell shouldn't be competitive.

>>2104941
Any multiplayer game is competitive by definition, and saying whether it is a party game or fighting game is too grey of an area for most on this site apparently despite the fact that it's very capable of being both in ways.

>>2104991
Because EVO sold out. Plain and simple.
I probably would have too, if walked in their shoes.

But a yardstick for everything that is good and true about the FGC they are not anymore.

>>2105079
If by sold out you mean didn't get their ass raped by copyright infringement then yeah you're right.

>>2105062
>Any multiplayer game is competitive by definition
A definition, that makes "competitive" mean very little.
Certainly something different from what ppl usually have in mind, when they hear "competitive vydia".
Farmville is massively multiplayer.

>>2105086
Elaborate pls.

I was referring to things like announcing that: "the next event will be Xbox only, because we are sponsored by Microsoft"

>>2105087
>Farmville is massively multiplayer.

Sharing things isn't multiplayer gameplay, try again.

>>2105091
Project M is modified software based on copyright infringement, Nintendo stepped in this year and was a part of EVO for SSB4. You can probably imagine what would've happened if EVO allowed Project M to be shown and played at the event.

>>2105097
EVO would have more elitist dickweeds that don't know how to have fun.

>>2104941
As a competitive Melee player I must disagree, the game is incredibly deep and competitive. Whether it's a "fighting game" or party game means little to me though, not going to change how it's played no matter what you call it.

>>2105107
What makes you think they're not having fun? Faggots like you are the cancer to fighting games.

>>2105117
And you're the cancer of this board.

>>2105121
If I wanted my comeback, I'd take it from your dad's chin.

People who automatically assume that people who take fighting games seriously or plays them for sport isn't having fun are THE worst. Ignorance at its best. Call me petty, but I'm tired of little scrubs running around calling people elitists or no-fun tourneyfags because they love their game more than some little scrub who played it for a couple of hours.

Get at me.

>>2105128
Like I said, you're the cancer of the board. Don't make me say it a third time.

>>2105130
Say it again. It doesn't mean anything no matter how many times you say it.

>>2105131
So I take it you've learned your lesson. Very good. The board is a much nicer place when we can all be civil.

>>2105134
Na, I just learned you're good at typing the same thing over and over.
I take back nothing I said. That guy is a faggot and your little step in was pointless.

>>2105136
Really? That is a pitty. I'm sure you can find your way to another board where your candor is appreciated. For now, I think it's best if you stop posting and making yourself look even more silly.

>>2105141
>>2105134
>>2105130

Who do you think you're fooling kid?

>>2105094
> the meaning of words derive from what ever supports my point at the moment
you argue like a woman

sigh
i hate school vacation
next two months are going to be unbearable with all the /v/ kiddos flooding here

Just to keep the thread up i guess:

>KOF 98 - Shingo/O. Yash/Chris (or Shermie. Trying to get gud with her)
>2002 - O.Yash/Shermie/K'
>ST - Gief
>Last Blade - P Kaede/S Hibiki. Trying to get gud with S-Moriya but i can't into Rekka Teleport bullshit
>Soul Calibur - Astaroth All day erryday
>UMK3 - Classic Sub, Noob
>Mark of the Wolves - Freeman
>CVS2 - K Groove R2-Bipson, Haohmaru, Iori
>Breakers - Condom
>FHD - Karnov. Sometimes Marstrius

Anyone on Fightcade by any chance? I've been trying to get some games.

>>2105168
>Mark of the Wolves - Freeman
High five, my "your tiers list is bullshit, enjoy your tears" brother.

Freeman is life, Freeman is love.

>>2105171

I mean, I'd actually play Kevin sometimes but it feels not fun at all. Oh and I sub Terry and Jae (actually trying to learn them).

I also dipped in a bit on Marco earlier. Holy shit how do i into charge attack bullshit because landing those on counter hit seem to be important as fuck.

>>2105168
good idea

> Last Blade 2: Zantetsu, PUA guy
> Real Bout 2 : Joe,Mai
> Garou : Pirate Chick, Kim - the good son not the spoiled one
> SamSho IV : Splooshnpants, Deadly Umbrella Boy

a bit monoculture? yeah - waddayawant i'm a /vr/ faggot and don't have a CPS2 yet

>>2105182

I wish I had the dosh to collect arcade stuff. Over where I live people sell the boards for some SNK games but it's for a MAME machine. Also apparently there was an old Hyper NeoGeo 64 cab here but all it had was FF Wild Ambition.

So, yeah. Still looking for anyone up for a few matches of Karnov or LB2.

P.S. Real Bout 2 is surprisingly fun. I wish I got into it when I was younger.

>>2105161
You're fucking stupid. There is no multiplayer in farmville beyond interaction of item exchanging and helping another player with their garden, that is not competitive in any sense. There is no vs system at all.

>>2105191
MVS 1fs - 60€
Power Supply, video converter board, some soldering shit ~ 40ish
MVS-Cards 20-100€ a pop

Good fighters last a long time, i game almost exclusively on an MVS for over a year now. Only own 10 carts, all except for garou, not expensive by retro standarts.

> also FH dynamite brofist

>>2105215

I am proud to admit that FHD is one of my ultimate Guilty Pleasure fighting games, along with Street Fighter the Movie Arcade. They're both incredibly silly it's fun as fuck.

>>2104589
I see, but is there any third option beyond playing against the AI and playing against the grandmaster-tier players I assume are in the FGC (at least for older games I assume a larger portion of the playerbase is high-tier)? Is there a way to find people of a lower skill tier so I can learn without being KO'd in five seconds where I wouldn't learn anything?

>>2105130
No you are the cancer, and he's right.

>>2105121
>>2105130
>>2105134
>>2105141
Is this actually NESfag or is someone using his identity to shitpost? NESfag seemed alright last I saw him, not anything like this.

I know the Goodrafag on /vp/ would steal the names of namefags so it's not out of the question for someone to do it here.

>>2105227

Try looking for a local tournament/event and join there (or at least their casuals setups).

>>2105117
>What makes you think they're not having fun?
Hey Matt Murdock, try reading up on any forum or tweet from someone who plays it. They're all competitive shitheads with swelled egos.

>>2105227
GGPO or FightCade and a stick. There's a handful of "okay" players on Super Turbo at all times.

>>2105278
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KS7hkwbKmBM
Looks like they are having fun to me.

>>2105278
So what it boils down to is, they are better at a game than you and you don't like it?

>>2105682
I meant for Smash, retard

>>2104621
Oh God, that Engrish.

>>2105692
This is a thread about fighting games.

>>2105182
She is so good

>>2105697
For someone claiming things aren't elitist, you sure are being elitist.

>>2105725
>>2105697

>>2105725
Are you a retard?

>>2105743
He made a perfectly valid retort.

You claim that a community isn't elitist, but you go and try to say that "x isn't in the same genre because I said so!" which is very elitist.

Of course instead of actually trying to cover your ass and explain anything you just call them morons and retards. Guess that makes you a super genius, right?

>>2105278
>Being competitive
>A bad thing
Please remove yourself from the gene pool

>>2105743
No, I'd say it's rather elitist to claim something isn't a fighting game just because you don't care for its different playstyle.

Though, I do realize I did assume you were the guy defending EVO against being elitist, which if you aren't, then I suppose I am a retard for assuming.

>>2105754
>He
Do you walk into the ladies bathrooms then call them elitist when they kick you out too?

>>2105763
League of Legends is a fighting game.
Call of Duty is a fighting game
Need for speed is a fighting game
Tetris is a fighting game

Stop being an elitist.

Yes you sound this stupid.

>>2105763
I guess the guy who made the game is an elitist too, hu?

>>2105771
False equivalence. Smash Bros. has more in common with traditional fighting games than the examples you listed.

>>2105779
Wrong, in fact any argument you can make for smash being a fighting game i can make for World of Warcraft being a fighting game.

>>2105754
>No one is allowed to play the game competitively.
>Everyone has to play the way i say.

Sounds like you are the one who is "elitist"

>>2105779
If you have to use the words "none-traditional" to describe it then its not part of the genre.

>>2105795
I can argue any differentiation from Street Fighter is now not a fighting game because it makes it "non-traditional" relative to the original using that logic.

>>2105761
Sakurai said himself it's not meant to be competitive.

Go crawl back in your Ono hole.

>>2105812
Stop being elitist

>>2105819
You telling me to stop being elitist is elitist.

Please consider not breathing the air.

>>2105812
Are any video games really meant to be competitive? Are they not just entertainment, is there really any need to treat it with such importance and training?

>>2105826
>Are any video games really meant to be competitive?
Since High Scores were a thing? Yes.

>>2105826
Spoken like a true loser

>>2105256
Survivorship bias. You don't see all the insufferable shit he posts that gets deleted.

>>2105831
And does Smash Bros. not have a point system that can be used as a game mode several entries in the series (I know Melee has it at least)?

>>2105801
Except unlike smash actual fighting games use the same base formula that Street Fighter laid down.

>>2105826
Most fighting games are built from the ground up as competitive games yes.

Also
>implying competition is somehow not entertainment.

Smash is a none traditional FPS game

>>2105793
>>No one is allowed to play the game competitively.

Nobody is saying that.

You people will throw shit at each other over anything.

See ya.

>>2105962
See you tomorrow, dirtbag.

>>2105278
That guy here.

I play Tekken to my best of my abilities. I train like fuck and I play to win everytime I play, but I enjoy the fuck out of it when I play a close game with someone close to my skill level or I pull of a tricky set up that I practiced for hours on.

As others have said, it boils down to you assuming people aren't having fun when they play competitively. A lot of people who love FGs find the fun in the details and the experiences. If they weren't having fun, they'd play another game.

>>2105278
>Competitive play
>Not fun
Get a load of this casual.

Let's try to not shitpost about Smash being/not being a fighting game.

I've been having trouble getting simultaneous button inputs to work in MvC. I'm looking at my inputs and they're both being pressed at what seems to be the exact same time, but for some reason I can only get moves that require simultaneous input to work about 5% of the time, and it only uses one of the moves the other 95%. Is this a common issue?

>>2106179
What are you playing MvC on and what with?

>>2106180
MAME, and a keyboard.

I know keyboards sometimes have issues where you can't hit keys in conjunction but it's clearly showing them both being inputted in the input display.

>>2106182
cant you go into controls and choose to have a button be assigned for all 3? I enjoy pressing the three for supers as well but if it isnt practical perhaps you can go that route?

Bumping.

Anyone else have a mains' list?

>Bloody Roar 2: Stun the Insect
>The King of Fighters '99: Ryo, Takuma, Yuri, Robert
>KoF 2003: Terry's Team
>Capcom vs SNK 2: Ratio; Sagat or Haohmaru solo, Ryo in conjunction with Iori

>>2106179
>>2106182

I use a keyboard and I don't have any trouble executing multiple button moves on command. Are you sure your keys aren't ghosting?

Maybe try to do it repeatedly against the AI to get the timing down.

gundamwing endless duel - deaathsythe

>>2107814

Always found Stun hard as fuck to use.

>>2108664
Not that guy, but he's a grappler character that doesn't have much else other than his throws. He's been pretty shitty since he doesn't have a whole lot else to handle some of the more mobile and aggressive characters.