/vr/ - Retro Games

Sega liked to release their consoles close to the holidays, didn't they? both Megadrive and Saturn had birthdays recently, and now the DC.

Anyway, happy b-day Dreamcast-chan!

Any have a gdemu? Thinking about buying 1-2 when the next batch comes out.

JET SET RADIOOOOOOOO!

>>2092208

So what is hands-down the best DC game?

>>2092219
Seaman

>>2092219
Shenmue

>>2092219
Crazy Taxi

>>2092219
>>2092218

>>2092219
PSOv2, in terms of amount of hours soaked into it

>>2092249
apparently you can still play online somehow
I'd like more details on how

>find a $4.00 working DC at the Goodwill with all the accessories
Hell, now all I need is some CD-Rs for burning some games and a VMU and I'll be set!

>found a $4.00 working DC at the Flea Market with all the accessories
Hell, now all I need is some CD-Rs for burning some games and a VMU and I'll be set!

>>2092250
You need either: dialup, the super expensive broadband adapter, or a workaround connecting a phone line to your router. I'm sure if you actually search you can find it.

Is it still thinking, /vr/...?

I thought it was released 9-9-99?

>>2092274
In the US. In Japan it was Nov. 27, 1998.

But I don't celebrate the Japanese release date due to the 9-9-99 significance.

>>2092274
That's the American released date for it. It was first released in Japan on November 27, 1998.

>>2092274
in america, yeah, but wasnt its birthday

>>2092274
Nov 27 1998 for Japan, Sep 9 199 for North America.

>>2092208
>came out 16 years ago today
>still haven't done anything with my life

Well goddamn, that's kind of depressing.

>>2092307
I was 13 at the time, what was there to do?

Could always play Sonic Adventure.

>>2092231

No, not after that motherfucking forklift simulator.

>>2092219
>So what is hands-down the best DC game?

well that really depends. You got a lot of options as far as genre goes.

Jet Set Radio
Skies of Arcadia
Grandia 2
Crazy Taxi
Shenmue
Code Veronica
Tech Romancer

are all awesome titles you should look into

>>2092208
Unreal Tournament's 15th birthday was on the 23rd. Too bad the Dreamcast port wasn't that great.

>>2092579
>Grandia 2
I mean. It's not bad. But best game for DC? No way. I find myself rushing through the battles to get back to the story and then rushing through the story to get back to the battles...

Also:
ChuChu Rocket! and Confidential Mission

>>2092250
it'd be much, much easier to just play one of the pservs for PC. I still play schtserv's Blue Burst once in a while.

>>2092579
No Space Channel 5 and Part 2? Fuck you.

What are reliable scene groups for high-quality dreamcast releases? I've been using DCRes and ReviveDC stuff, but they don't cover everything.

This was a fun game. Looked really good, too. It deserves more attention

Dead or Alive 2

4 player (2 vs 2 tag-team) was amazing. Gameplay was so fast and fluid.

>>2092897
also, Fuck PS2

>>2092579
Don't forget the hidden gems like:
Dynamite Cop
Gundam Side Story
Maken X

F355 Challenge

Brutally realistic simulator. The arcade cabinet for this game was pretty sweet - three screens and a clutch pedal. I wore out and broke a steering wheel controller playing this game so much.

>elemental gimmick gear.

all those exclusives.

comfy game, right here. kinda crappy graphics, but gameplay was chill and fun.

stupid asshole terrorists

>muh online multiplayer

>>2092957
Sega should put this on steam or something.

>>2092957

> It's Quake 3 meets Twisted Metal but in the SKY
> You fly WWII era prop planes
> Awesome Levels
> Bright and colorful graphics
> Classic arcade buttrock soundtrack
> Isn't babbyshit, has some actual difficulty to it


Sega used to be so based.

If there are any DC owners who haven't played Propeller Arena yet than download and burn it right now. Trust me, you are in for a treat.

Is there any reason to play Dreamcast Crazy Taxi over anything else?

>>2093004
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G91ziPCo39k

>>2093027

Not what I meant. Any reason to play this and not PS2/Gamecube?

>>2093029
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9U-VH9RveiA

Dreamcast was so boss,every system released since then has been casual as fuck

Now I miss Power Stone. How that 3D environment could be navigated so well is still a mystery.

It released one of the worst, most hand-holdingest, Babby's First RPG RPGs ever made: Skies of Arcadia. I can never forgive the DC for doing that, despite having several awesome games such as >>2092218, >>2092232 and Chu Chu Rocket.

>>2093190
I didnt like it either,dont understand the praise it got

>>2093195
>>2093190
We're alone in this. It's a truly awful game.

>>2092208
It's so bizarre to me that Dreamcast spent nearly a year as a Japan-only console. That's almost unheard of nowadays, especially for a major company.

>>2093190
I enjoyed it although to be 100% honest I really just kept playing to get to the next ship battle

Happy bd!

>>2093242
It was pretty standard back in the day

>>2093242
Most were in Japan for 2 years or more before we got it. Most of the time it worked out better for us because America ended up with better hardware usually and there were games that could translated for the American release.

>>2093242

Sega of Japan and Sega US were more like 2 different companies who hated the sight of each other than 2 divisions co-ordinating with each other, and had been for a long time.

When the Sega CD was being developed in Japan, Sega US got *no* development units for their own first party development teams to work on and had to cobble together prototypes to work on. They had nothing to offer to third party developers in the US who's support for the Genesis/Mega Drive effectively stopped Nintendo having the industry as its puppet.

Those developers were now pissed that Sega was working on marketing a console they'd make no money on.

THEN later they pushed forward the Saturn launch and screwed over some retailers because what Sony were doing with the PlayStation scared the living daylights out of them.

It was a string of management clusterfucks. Dreamcast being Japan only?

Almost seems a sane decision if it meant they'd have functioning network and modem play rather than another fundamentally undermined console launch.

>>2092219
Sonic Adventure

>>2092231

I hated that game and hated myself for wasting my hard earned teen dollars on it. It featured horrible fetch quests that make Bethesda games look deep, and the dialogue was so attrocious that it was like characters were having two different conversations with each other.

The second one was more of the same plus some crazy random white bitch on a sportbike.

Martin likes it.

>>2094001

I don't know why i almost feel ashamed, but i agree.
The dreamcast has many good games that get no recognition while something mediocre get all the attention.

>get rainbow six
>guy at the store convinces me to get some shaking thing for the controller
>what the heck, buy it
>get home, put disc in
>sexy twirly splash screen with sophisticated sound
>BADASS TOM CLANCY INTRO SEQUENCE
>oh shit, get to plan how to attack terrorists
>get to customize teams, getting goosebumps
>get to customize weapons and gear, getting light-headed
>game starts, sexy as fuck graphics and sound
>testing controls, shoot gun, controller jumps in my hands
>orgasm hard

And that was before rumble features were weak little pussy toys built into the controller, this thing JUMPED.

>>2092957
I love this game

Every time I think about the Dreamcast, I think about how Colony Wars: Vengeance came out on the wrong system. I wish that game was on the Dreamcast instead of those horrible twitchy, undulating PS1 graphics.

>>2092957
>>2092961
>>2093002
>>2094725


Leading up to when it was supposed to be released, all the hype was surrounding its online multiplayer... has anybody ever been able to make that work in any capacity?

urrrm... you guys know that dreamcast isn't allowed here, right>

>>2094852
read the sticky, foo

>>2092219
sup

>>2094867
I remember playing the shit out the demo of this.

Was the full game just as rad, or did it become monotonous?

>>2092219
Either Shenmue or Skies of Arcadia

>>2092231
why do people suck this game off? fuck that QTE simulator

While people are bringing up good Dreamcast games I'll add Power Stone (1 and 2), Slave Zero, Alien Front Online, and Ready 2 Rumble.

>>2094964

Oh, and Spawn: In the Demon's Hand. And Illbleed.

I'll probably think of others and kick myself for not mentioning them.

>>2093190

Skies of Arcadia was pretty awful but it was a lot of people's childhood RPGs so you'll find a lot of dedicated defenders on the internet.

I hope I never have to hear FIRE CONSUME MY ENEMIES again in my life.

>>2094830

No.

Sega used a platform called SNAP (Sega Network Application Package) to handle the majority of the online games for the Dreamcast.

After they pulled official support for the system they ended up selling the network platform to Nokia, who renamed it "Scalable Network Application Package" and used it for the N-Gage.

Because of this, it is basically impossible to ever get Dreamcast games back online without reverse engineering SNAP.

Assuming that did happen, it wouldn't change things because the server software for the games themselves has been long lost. Since packet logs weren't recorded from DCs that were playing games online it's impossible to even know where to begin for recreating servers for Dreamcast games.

There are still a number of games that are available to play online though:

> Quake III Arena
This is playable because id used the same client/server setup that the PC version of Quake III uses. You can setup your own servers using the PC version of Quake III, a specific point release, and a Dreamcast map pack

> 4x4 Evo
Used Gamespy, can still connect with a modified masterlist

> Phantasy Star Online
Playable on custom player-created servers

> Maximum Pool
Also playable on player-created servers

> StarLancer
Used GameSpy

> Planet Ring
Custom Servers

> Doom
A homebrew port of Doom that can be played online by directly connecting to the IP addresses of other players, but requires the Broadband Adapter

There is a glimmer of hope that the online functionality for Unreal Tournament may be coming back at some point though.

wtf sega.

I wish more games were weird as fuck.

>>2094852
umm... you know that you're a fucking retard, right>

>>2093190
Games can be linear, that doesn't make them the hand-holdingest RPG

>>2093190
I truly disliked it as well. I was all about Grandia 2, Shenmue and PSO, though. I saw lots of SoA played by my brothers as well, wasn't impressed with late-game content either.

>>2094575
And how they got Rainbox Six to be playable on a DC controller, I'll never know. But it fucking worked.

Anyone remember soldier of fortune? a really good game you could blow the individual limbs off enemies which i always though was sweet but it must have had the longest loading times on the dreamcast

>>2095095

The bullpup was great fun. Throwing knives too

She's sagitarius

Started playing Crazy Taxi and Space Channel 5 to celebrate. the latter is pretty hard, but I'll manage.

>>2092208

That Sonic game that came with the console was such garbage that it made me hate Sonic fans. I loved the console, loved the ambition, loved the performance but the library was just a mess of mostly sports and fighting games with a few weeb jrpgs; it's like the thing was marketed to black people.

At least I got enjoyment from RE: Code Veronica, Rainbow Six, and Tomb Raider.

No game will ever make you feel as fucking manly.

Also -

>muh Shenmue
>never getting a fucking Shenmue III :(

>>2095319

The ps2 game is better.
A lot better.

>>2095325

It's also written in moon runes.

>>2095328

It has been completely translated.
http://berserkdarkness.altervista.org/berserk-ps2-patch-engita-release-1-0/

>>2095247
>the library was just a mess of mostly sports and fighting games with a few weeb jrpgs

That's a rather ignorant claim. Dreamcast had lots of unique and oddball games.

>>2094001

>white bitch

what? She was Asian - just like everyone else in the game.

DAT cord wrap...

>>2095475

I bet you can name 5 at most.

>>2095589

http://www.thedreamcastjunkyard.co.uk/2013/11/top200dreamcastgames.html

Go anon, knock yourself out.

>>2095589
>Super Magnetic Neo
>Cosmic Smash
>ChuChu Rocket
>Space Channel 5
>Jet Grind Radio
>Seaman
>Lack of Love
>Bomber Hehe!
>Sonic Shuffle
>Worms

The list goes on, and I only included games that are oddballs as compared to others. Also, not that guy.

>>2095598

inb4 anon quote every game and write "shit", "bad game" or "X is better"

>>2095598

But the only one you named that was unique was Jet Grind and the only people who liked it were poorfags and nostalgiafags.

>>2095612
...but. Am I being trolled?
I mean, I would say Jet Grind Radio is comparable to Tony Hawk and other trick based games.

I can't think of anything comparable to ChuChu Rocket, Cosmic Smash, Seaman Hey You Pikachu maybe?, or Bomber Hehe! and I honestly didn't get far enough in L.O.L. to figure out what the fuck was going on.

>>2095620

Wait, what? You're saying that you're not qualified to have an opinion on the subject.

Most of my games are burnt at this point, but my original library is mostly intact.

>>2096326

> Only one VMU

How do you live with only 200 blocks?

They're like $5-$10 online.

>>2095620
>Jet Grind Radio is comparable to Tony Hawk
I would compare it to Tony Hawk as a overhyped version with bad controls and wonky hit detection. I liked the game, but I can still recognize it's an inferior game to the Tony Hawk games.

You stupid motherfuckers. You made me do it. Fucking dorks, all of you.

Hmm, what's inside?
>should have timestamped these pics

>>2095331
>not linking to 1.1 patch

OK, /vr/, I'm coming over to your house

for a Dreamcast slumber party!

>>2096396
>>2096403
>>2096405
>>2096408
>>2096410
>>2096412

Holy shit man, congratulations.

Also, what did you pay for all of it?

>>2096467
I bought it all in 1999-2002 timeframe... when it was kinda new. So, I spent a lot. I used to have a lot more primo original games like Powerstone 1,2, Gigawing, some other good ones... but years ago, I sold a bunch of it to make rent!

>>2096478
I take that back... I think I bought some random stuff at garage sales later on... so some if it was cheap.

>>2096412
Would you believe me if I said I had a friend that used to use one of these to haul his DC over to my house?

>>2096408
>>2096405
damn son my dreamcast collection is like 70% cdr.

>>2096410
Dreamcast was probably the best sleepover multiplayer console ever made.

>>2092917
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B1QekhQS2Ek

dat voice acting.

>>2096516
This game has been on my backlog forever. Did you guys know many Dreamcast games have pictures and wallpapers hidden on the disc? Short comic from 1999.

>>2096541

>A failure that caused a good console dev to switch over to 3rd party shovelware
>Lost to inferior hardware and didn't even have a 12th of said hardware's library size
It doesn't deserve praise for killing a good console dev.

>>2096586
>It doesn't deserve praise for killing a good console dev.
Could have sworn I typed "It doesn't deserve praise for being sloppy". Whoops.

>>2096586

The failure was both Sega's (for all of the stunts they pulled with the Genesis/CD/32x as well as the Saturn) and consumers (for buying into the Sony bullshit hype machine), but it wasn't the system itself that was at fault.

The system itself was fantastic, it had a ton of awesome games, was significantly more powerful than the PS1/N64, and had forward thinking features like a focus on online play and the ability to browse the web.

Not to mention cool peripherals like the VMU or the ability to use KBAM on a console or stuff like the fishing controller or the Sambe De Amigo Maracas.

>>2096605

Basically Sega/the Dreamcast did not fail you, you failed Sega/the Dreamcast.

>>2094937
You've never played it for more than one hour - or never played Shenmue 2. In both case, you'd understand that they were not a lot of QTEs and close to none of them are modern "Press A to not lose" actions.

>>2096586

>Inferior hardware
PS2 was more powerful than the Dreamcast.
>A failure that caused a good console dev to switch over to 3rd party shovelware
No, that was the Saturn.

>>2092231

walking simulator

I think Jet Set Radio and Crazy Taxi 2 deserve much more praise than Shenmue. Shenmue has a bigger name behind it (Yu Suzuki) and a bigger budget but JSR and CT2 are more enjoyable as games.

>>2096858

I finished shenmue and the fighting sections are boring and repetitive, the story is on level with a bad chinese movie. the forklift section is the most boring shit i've ever done in a videogame and the game is packed with dead moments.

Shenmue is not a good example of videogame.

>>2096892
I agree,i still liked it though ,walking through the streets of 80s japan was really cool and there was so much attention to detail.

What killed it the most for me was the horrific english voice acting ,sega should have saved the cash and gone with english subs.

The story could have done with a lot more polish,nothing really happens except ryu talks to lots of people and ends up on a boat to hong kong,the story never develops beyond what you see in the introduction

>>2093060
My hands aren't hardcore enough to enjoy that controller.

>>2096959
i loved the controller but it has a few faults,the analogue stick is very slippery,the dpad isnt very good ( i hated how shenmue forced you to use the dpad wtf) but on the upside it uses magnets to sense where it is rather than a mechanical set up so it pretty much cant go wrong,also the controller cord comes out the bottom for some reason,you can pin it to the back but it never stays in place

>>2096989
i mean the analogue stick uses magnets not the dpad

>>2096898

>The story could have done with a lot more polish,nothing really happens except ryu talks to lots of people and ends up on a boat to hong kong
>the story never develops beyond what you see in the introduction

That's because the story of Shenmue was supposed to be told over sixteen chapters. All of Shenmue is the first chapter, chapter 2 was supposed to take place on the boat in between the two games but was cut, and chapters 2, 4, and 5 are Shenmue 2.

Shenmue isn't a one-off game, it is the first game in a series that is comprised of a long, long story that was cut short early in development due to the commercial abandonment of the Dreamcast.

It feels like nothing develops because you're playing it as if it was a self contained story, when in reality it's the first chapter of a book.

>>2097005

I mean chapters 3, 4, and 5 are Shenmue 2

>>2097005
Yeah i know that but obviously he spread it out too thinly ,on what format did he expect to tell the whole story?

>>2097007
Games should not be developed in this manner. I'm still waiting for HL2 Episode 3 and SiN Episode 2.

>>2097024

On the Dreamcast, probably over three or four games total. You can see how Shenmue 2 ramps the storytelling speed up much faster than the first game did.


>>2097026

Well, the other option is to compress story elements and cram multiple games into one release, which means you have to cut corners since the first game already took up 3 GD-ROMs.

Pretty sure Yu Suzuki and Sega were expecting Shenmue to be a pretty big deal. No one expected the DC to shit the bed commercially like it did. Sega was poised to kick some serious ass with the Dreamcast - it was available a year earlier than the PS2 and at 2/3 the price (1/2 when the PS2 released). It had a shitton of great games, as well as online play and the ability to browse the web. Sega even ran their own ISP and toward the end would straight up give you a Dreamcast if you signed up for it for two years.

By all accounts the Dreamcast should have exploded, the conditions were perfect and everyone was confident that it would. But it didn't.

Releasing a game that is the first part of a multi-pat story makes perfect sense when you believe that the console you are releasing it on is going to end up in millions of homes.

>>2096898

>nothing really happens

Exactly the beef I had with this piece of shit game. I spent 95% of the time itching for it to get good or fun, and then the last 5% with the soul crushing knowledge that it wouldn't and that I had wasted my time in one really huge boring fetch quest.

So much wasted potential...and the mother of harlots, the game that invented QTE's.

My Crazy Taxi chops have gone to complete shit. I can barely get $4,000 playing default arcade rules. Garbage. Unacceptable. Must practice.

I also forgot how annoying the Wolfman Jack announcer guy is.

>>2099805
I kinda find the offspring soundtrack to be a bit annoying as well considering i heard those tracks a million times and they are so loud and in your face

I'm having a problem with shadow man from revivedc, can someone try this game on a pal dreamcast with a scart cable ?
I would like to know if the problem is in my tv.

>>2099837
First describe the problem.

>>2099840

The game doesn't boot with pal scart cable, it does with an american one but the screen show in b&w.
Also if i detach the pal scart cable the game will boot, but if i reconnect the cable after that i get no picture and only sound.

>>2099848
I had a similar problem with another game and i ended up just getting the pal game,you could try converting the file to pal there are programs for that on isozone,the dreamcast is very picky with playing imports.

>>2099860

I will probably buy a multi-standards tv, it will make my life easier since i've many consoles.

>>2099869
So your saying your tv wont output ntsc? thats your problem,but nearly every euro tv will output ntsc through rgb scart.

Also if your Pal scart cable isnt RGB that will be the cause of the problem as well.

>>2099805
>disliking the announcer
I beat you also hate the drum solo on the menus

>>2099875
>but nearly every euro tv will output ntsc through rgb scart

It seems i'm one of the few cases, i will just change the tv.

>>2099878
These drums?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l8k3J0WesB8

>>2097061
I thought this too
then I bought Shenmue 2 to see if it got better
and right now I'm watching what I assume is the final cutscene of the game
and it still hasn't gotten very good

>>2099908
I fucking knew the menu theme was familiar

Did I just wander into the Shenmue hate thread? I dunno, I liked it.

>>2100149

It's a matter of tastes anon, but...
Can you please explain why you liked it ?
I just finished the first one, and i've been left disgusted.

>>2100167

Save your disgust for the second one.

>borrow the game back in the day
>get to the pier
>horrible voice acting and atrocious dialogue again, oh boy
>run a few yards
>shitty Rocku Musicu starts
>crazy white bitch on a sportbike tearing shit up
>dialogue making me want to puke
>keep going, get bags stolen by gang of con artists with a kid
>oh great, here comes my first big fetch quest, get my bag
>searching for gang
>crazy Rocku Musicu and motorcycle sounds again
>crazy bitch Joy shows up tearing up on the sportbike again
>getting mad at the game for shitty dialogue and shitty fetch quests
>play like an hour more and get another Rocku Musicu crazy Joy cutscene again

Fuck this. I would have eaten an entire bottle of aspirin if I had actually purchased that fuck awful mess.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8P3DDGRFeIo

>>2096605

I agree with this so much. I lament that games like Tenchu, Syphon Filter(s), MGS, Parasite Eve, and all of those other classic games didn't come out on a console that could graphically do them justice.

Instead we got Shitmu, Sonic and a bunch of other forgettable crap. There were a few gems in there, but mostly garbage.

Any Treamcast fags here?

Been looking for one for years.

>>2100220
I finished Shenmue II about half an hour ago.

It does not improve

>>2092908
Gundam is pretty excellent.

Also this:
>>2092917
Bit generic but a lot of fun.

>>2096405
>tfw some asshole didn't sell you his keyboard

Does anybody here have theirs modded with a G1-ATA, or other hard drive attachment? I'm thinking about trying what this guy did, but cleaner with an eSATA port.
http://ayasuke2.exblog.jp/22173084/

>go out to thrift store that has a few video game vendors
>expecting overpriced bullshit
>find a copy of Daytona USA 2001 for $10
>Not bad, I think, I get it
>play game
>game dosen't load certain courses and resets back to the bios
>it's not even that badly scratched, I own games that are in worse condition and still run perfectly
>fuck
>clean disc
>problem courses are fixed, but now other courses are not loading instead
>goddamit

>>2092219
Soul Calibur.

>>2093190
I never particularly like it too. The whole combat revolved around charging the top bar and unleashing your most powerful technique after a while. I lost the force to continue just before the last dungeon. It has a nice presentation, though.

>>2092219
Chu Chu Rocket.

No, I'm not joking.

>>2099909
There is plenty of combat in Shenmue 2, hell Kowloon is pack full with it. It's also much more dodge oriented, so you can't just spam Y and block everyone in an armbar. The only thing, which carries from the first, is that lock on and the camera is really janky. I still like Shenmue's combat more than Yakuza, and I have to give to Yakuza the fact that it has things to do besides sightseeing and doing boring chores and an actual story.

So, no love for Rez?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ByFDR0bTyAQ

>>2099869
>>2099848
>>2099837

Ok i resolved this complete mess of a problem.
My VGA box has three way to output video: S-video, vga and composite.
I don't like the vga upscaling, so i tried with the s-video and it gave me b&w video and no sound.
Out of desperation i tried the composite output and...
It works in full screen with no bars and at 60Hz in color; how in the fucking hell is this shit even possible ?
An american game in composite works smooth as butter on a pal dreamcast attached to a pal crt.

>>2103197
I like Rez, have a ported version. I'm not a huge fan of the rail shooter genre in general though.

>>2103197
Was better on PS2 with the massager.

>>2103209
Better on the 360.

>>2103209
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o9dAdnC1KUQ

I bought my Dreamcast the very same week it was launched. I live in Brazil. As soon as it hit the market here, there was pirate discs for it. Best thing was that pirate discs played online, so I played the hell out of UT and Quake 3 online. Also that game with tanks, that was cool to play online.

Too bad Dreamcast emulators suck so much.

>>2103216

>the very same week it was launched
>i live in brazil

So you got a Dreamcast some time in 2007?

>>2093951

>>2092256
you mean double layer dvd-rw son

I asked this in the small questions thread but didn't get a response so I thought someone here might know: is there any visual difference between revisions for the Dreamcast or can you only tell by the model number?

I want to try to get one online and found a decent deal but it doesn't give the revision and I'm worried about getting one of the ones you can't burn games for.

>>2104590
You'll need a picture of the bottom of the console. Everything you need to know is in this forum post:

http://www.epforums.org/showthread.php?54893-Dreamcast-versions-Mil-CD-Selfboot-Compatibility

>>2092208
I have the pink hello kitty version. It's fab.

Bought this and Grandia 2 at the same time.
I remember thinking "bet i will end up forgetting i have pso. grandia 1 was jawsome"
how wrong was I

>>2104523
What?

Can't figure out if troll or stupid...

>>2097043
It wasn't the Dreamcast that failed; it was Sega. Sega died and took the Dreamcast's hopes with it.

>>2104786
(This excludes my crazy conspiracy theories about Microsoft and their relationship with Sega at the time.)

>>2104789

your not alone. I've always thought that their were shenanigans going on between the two company's. Too many coincidences.

>>2094852

>>2103251
Nah man, it came simultaneously, it was just freaking expensive, I still don't know how my parents managed. Good times.

>>2096405
>>2096408
My boner.

>>2096898
Shenmue's my all-time favorite and any criticism I've ever heard of it is valid. It really is a walking & talking simulator.

>The story could have done with a lot more polish,nothing really happens except ryu talks to lots of people and ends up on a boat to hong kong,the story never develops beyond what you see in the introduction
Shenmue 2 lays on the exposition a bit thicker but Shenmue is effective in conjuring the air of mystery. **Ryo's dreams, the Hazuki Dojo basement, Master Chen and Guizhangs' vague explanations, etc**. Plus, foreshadowing with the snippets of Chinese culture. Given how ebin the series was meant to be, for the first chapter of sixteen it gets the job done.

Its a small but humble collection
What does /dream/ think?

>>2105757
Love my ChuChu Rocket controller with seaman vmu too

I think I owned a DC for a year and a half before I realized you could change the way a VMU displayed on the dashboard by resetting its memory.

I've been thinking of getting myself a Dreamcast again, I'm in the UK but I want to play in glorious 60hz, I don't mind having some games in Japanese, fighting games ect. but I want to be able to play Jet Set and Shenmue in English. What's the best way to go about this? Get a Jap DC, mainly Jap games, and use Utopia boot disc for American games? Please help.

>>2107351
The good thing about dreamcast is that nearly every pal game is in pal-60 ,theres like 10 games which are 50hz and it can play imports with a bootdisk anyway or just burn the games.

>>2107351
>Shenmue in English

Oh man, you are going to curse yourself for wanting this.

Play: l.o.l, rez, karous, frame gride, dynamite cop etc. instead.

Those jewel cases need to come back

>>2107351
Auscunt here with a PAL Dreamcast. Get an PAL Action Replay and you can play games from any region, and boot in 60hz mode. Though often the PAL versions are just fine because they usually have a 60hz/50hz switch screen. I'm not sure I've even played a DC game in 50hz, and I have several original PAL discs.

>>2093029
[the soundtrack.]

>>2107358
>>2108014
Thanks, I think I'll get a PAL console, but I'll have to get US and Nip games, my ever so slight autism will not allow odd cases.

Anyone tired the DC Ascii pad or the DC arcade stick? Opinions?

>>2092232
My favorite nigger! Big Dick Joe!!!

this thing's so qt

Blue Stinger.

Sumo shirt was OP

>>2108847
If you want an arcade stick for the dreamcast, look no further than the X-Arcade dual joystick set with the dreamcast adapter. Modern perfomance and shit. 5ms or less of input delay.

>>2108881
>X-Arcade dual joystick

lol no get the official dc stick

>>2109194
http://theisozone.com/downloads/dreamcast/dreamcast-isos/toejam-and-earl-iii-unreleased---zakhooitm/

>>2092307
You mean you haven't gotten laid don't you?

>>2092901
God, do you remember all the press articles at the time proclaiming the ps2 version as superior?

Fucking corrupt game press.

>>2096410
>>2096410
>>2096510
>tfw consoles and most games are targeted at hikikomoris noawadays

My VMU beeps when powered on, but it's not detected by the console. Any ideas?

>>2109194
I own a pair of these and they are badass in their own right but there are people that would rather play with concave buttons over convex.

>>2109657
Bad contact somwhere in the vmu slots?

I decided to pay my respect. I miss that system and show my stuff. Lol

Dreamcast threads always remind me of times I had on other dreamcast forums.

Damn, while sorting everything out, I couldn't find my copies of Project Justice and MVC1. Boo. Anyways, my favorite joystick of that era. Still in good condition.

>>2109657
>>2109859

maybe try a different controller and/or controller port.

I'm planning a major dreamcast mod in the coming months. it's one my buddy sold me which had a case in terrible condition.

I'm going to be sanding and painting the case. dark gray and black. i originally wanted to put one of the cats from chu chu rocket on the lid, but i can't find an orange paint that doesn't suck. i might put a blue sonic silhouette on it even though i don't like the sonic games for it aside from shuffle.

I'm going to replace the led with a blue one, maybe find a pal lid and replace the Orange sticker with the blue one, or find a place that will make me a custom sticker of a blue swirl with a gray or black background. i also want to get 2 more stickers with a translucent background with the Windows ce text and sega logo for the front. if i can't do that I'll have an artistically competent friend paint it on by hand. I'm going to pull off the bottom sticker using a heat gun and replace it after paint and clear coat has cured. the other stickers will be put in place after paint before clear coat

now, for internals. this requires some cutting of the case. I'm going to install a gdemu. Ideally i want to attempt an odd placement that will allow the original disc drive to remain intact. a switch will be installed on the back to go back and forth between disc drive and gdemu.

I'll be using an extension cable to route the sd card reader to the front of the system and cut for a spring loaded sd card port. i will also be wiring in another slot like this on the opposite side. that slot will be hard wired into the serial port, allowing use of dreamshell without the large serial port adapter. this will leave the serial port in a functional state. now i can transfer saves from my vmu to the second sd card. That's the main reason i want to keep the laser, if i can't though then I'll abandon the second sd slot.

>>2110301
finally, vga/composite/s video out. I plan to use a 4 pole rotary switch for the video out, everything will be tied together in a way that the standard video out remains intact but will be turned off by switching. at this point I'm theorizing that i can leave both audio outs active at all times, which would be cool if i had an independent sound system. this would allow me to use tv speakers and the sound system in conjunction.

I'm considering throwing a headphone jack and volume pot on the front as a nod to the first gen genesis but it would ultimately be pointless and overkill, not to say this whole project isn't.

what do you guys think? Also, know anywhere i might be able to get those stickers?

>>2110301
I'm also interested in painting my Dreamcast case, but I don't know how to not paint the Windows CE logo and the SEGA logo on right above the controller slots.
Using a box cutter is impossible because the SEGA logo is too small.
I was thinking of painting everything and then using transfer paper (the one you use for homemade shirt prints) with the respective logos. I would place the paper on the correct spot and apply heat so it transfers to the case.
Can this be made?

>>2100896
I was considering something like that, but using a laptop hard drive tucked in there somewhere.

esata would be nice, but you'd need an ide to sata board somewhere in there

>>2110343
like screen printing? i haven't even considered that. i know a couple people locally that do it to. i would assume a different paint would need to be used but silk screen would allow fine details. I'm going to look more into that

after a quick Google search i believe nazdar 59000 or 6100 may work for our needs. it's an enamel based ink that will bond with surfaces that aren't easily adhered to.

>>2109916

What's with all the dupes?

>iSpy, I hated that fuck awful game

>>2110478
wats the best dreamcast group for burning games

>>2110487
Trurip-tosec for gdi images
avoid redump they fucked up the images by adding some unexisting values.

>>2110491
wat site do u download dreamcast games from

>>2110487
cdi images:

DCRES Complete Pack For Dreamcast By TuxTheWise

>>2110496
http://snesorama.us/board/showthread.php?175292-DCRES-Complete-Pack-By-TuxTheWise-(Torrent)

>>2110516
How hard is it to remove the DCRes logo from the opening sequence? I respect their releases but that shit is very annoying.

>>2110642
Don't be a dick.

>>2110642
this
>>2110968

>>2110642
I'd say, just try a different torrent or compilation. Heck, try another website and download the games you want separately. I dunno if I can say any of these Sites on 4chan, but I wish you luck trying to find them. :^)

>>2108864
Reminds me of an eMac, actually. They looked like fun toys for children, but adults seriously used them. Lel.

New Dreamcast owner: the VMU I found at goodwill is faulty in that it beeps because lolbatteries and sometimes even seems to short out the controller, so naturally I need a new one.

Would you recommend I go with one of those sealed ones on ebay, or is there a third party memory unit that's better for one reason or another?

>>2110478
Not him, but I got a bunch of dupes from ebay bundles. Gave them to a friend.

>>2111493
soul calibur looks great on it

How easy/hard is it to mod a Dreamcast? >>2104590 here still searching online (the good deal mentioned got snatched due to indecision), and I'm ready to get one even if it doesn't mention the revision, and if I end up getting one made after 11/2000 I'd like to know what can be done to mod it, if there are any simple guides and price estimates for modchips.

>>2111518

You dont need to mod a dreamcast

>>2111384
>faulty in that it beeps because lolbatteries

Keep in mind that every time you boot the console, the VMU will beep.

>>2111526
From what I understand models made after a certain point (some time in November 2000) aren't able to play burned games like earlier versions can, which is why I might need that.

>>2111529
i wouldent worry too much

>>2111529
it's now circulating online that that's just a rumor and while some can't some can. I've owned 6 dreamcasts and all of them were the 1999 production. I didn't seek them out, i just have never even came across one that wasn't(as far as non special editions go). anything that isn't the first ruin is relatively much rarer, thus less likely to encounter. also, I've read all pal models can.

just a bit of information, the console won't play bootleg gd-roms natively. you need a mod or bootdisc. the rumor about no copy protection isn't exactly true. however, the dreamcast also natively plays mil-cds without copy protection. this is where the ability to play back ups come in. once this was realized people began messing around with the data, compressing, deleting,and rearranging it so that it will fit on a cdr, and they injected code that the dreamcast reads and it detects it as a mil-CD and begins to run it. there are still some games that require 99 minute cdrs, but most don't. the only consoles that won't play the self booting images are the ones that had the mil-CD code removed from the bios, which includes the hello kitty one.

I'd say get it, more than likely it'll work fine.

>>2096478
Weird, my dad did the same shit with our dc. But then he bought us a ps2 so it was cool

First console I ever owned. Nearly 4 when I first started playing mine. Sonic Adventure, House of the Dead 1 & 2, Tomb Raider: Chronicles, Crazy Taxi, Jet Set Radio, Space Channel 5, Sega Bass Fishing, Fur Fighters, and a bunch of other awesome games were among the first I'd played. Sweet console, but I've gone through 4 in my lifetime. They love to die.

>>2111528
I fucked up my post. What I meant to say is that it beeps, but is not detected and sometimes even seems to short out the controller.

>>2092219
Power Stone 2

>>2094964
>>2094968

my niggas, i've been thinking of buying a Dreamcast again here in south korea, there are some for 60 bucks, god i miss that console, happy birthday, my best childhood friend lol

>>2092219
The Ring: Terror's Realm

>>2094852
1. It is, read the sticky
2. you're like that faggot that tries to boss around the class when then teacher steps out for a few minutes. everyone hates you and no one respects you.
3. ur a faget lol

>>2103216
brfag aqui
i had a nice time with the Chankast and the NullDc both played smoothly

I fucking love the DC so many great games and hell more than half of the games that got released on the ps2,GC,Xbox were going to be exclusives for the DC

>>2113737
*after the DC died*

>>2113737
Really? I didn`t know that.
What games?

>>2113748
Well we all know that pretty much all the sega games that were on the Original xbox was Dreamcast titles in some way or another,then you got VF4 that was put on PS2,I do remember seeing somewhere that Red Faction (I believe it went to just the PS2) was made for DC but under a different name(can't remember) GTA3 was going to but since GTA3 didn't come out till 2001 the dreamcast was already on its death bed.Hell even Billy Hatcher on the Gamecube was for the DC because most smilebit games were made for DC but then put on XBOX GunValkyrie, which had a build running on the Dreamcast and Jet Set Radio 2 before it became the overhauled Jet Set Radio Future with the new Xbox focused engine)Even Puyo Puyo Fever was suppose to be DC only till it got put on everyone's console hell even they ported it to the DS and even the GBA.

The Dreamcast was ahead of its time and I think part of it being that ahead of time is what killed it.

>>2113781
Huh, now that you mentioned, i did think it was strange that Set Radio Future was on Xbox and not on DC

>>2113784
yeah and even Shenmue 2....fuck you Peter Moore for not letting Americans have it on Dreamcast you bastard

If Dreamcast DVD and VMU MP3 came out, would it have had a chance?

>>2113812
if it came out before the ps2 than maybe they wouldn't of lost the Japan market but also if you remember ps2 was the cheapest dvd player on the market and for the first year many people that had a PS2 used it just as a dvd player.

The Rainbow Six and Resident Evil games were the only thing worth a damn on this console which sucks because it was beautifully designed, had a browser, and had some good performance for its day.

And what the fuck is up with this new CAPTCHA system where I have to copy and paste shit? I leave this place for the weekend and come back to it being fucked up, what gives?

just finished this, rip in piece sweet prince.

>>2113926
>implying

>>2113720
https://a.pomf.se/ovwezz.webm

Project Justice is one of the best fighters ever made.

>>2114189
it is

>>2113926
He llo

Ive been giving my GD-EMU a proper test run,little bit of a hassle transferring games to the SD card but i can get quite a lot of games on a 32 gig card and it works perfectly with improved loading times,shits pretty cash

>>2093887
I find the relationship between SoA and SoJ during the mid-to-late 90s to be incredibly fascinating. I knew about Yuji Naka refusing to share the NiGHTS source code with the SoA team developing Sonic Xtreme, but I never knew SoA wasn't given dev units for the Sega CD. Knowing all that, it's easy to understand how and why Sega failed. It seems they were the primary cause of their own demise.

Is there a decent write-up about the culture of Sega at that time and all the different conflicts that arose?

>>2113953
Remember when were kings and queens. Remember when we conquered. Remember when there was a future for us. Remember us, please don't forget please don't.

>>2108881
>X-Arcade
trash, the parts suck and its ugly.

get the offical stick instead, anon

>>2113791

That move pissed me off sooo fucking much. Shit like that(which there was alot of) makes me wish I grew up as a Nintendo kid. No one knows let downs like old skool Sega Fans.

>>2114576
You obiously have never used one and judging by your reply you neither touched a dc stick either. Even though x arcade uses knockoff parts they are really well made and mine still work after three years of abuse. As for the DC stick, its not bad but it is the best among dedicated dreamcast sticks just not as good as modern sticks which have greatly reduced input delay.

>>2113812
DVD playback possibly, but then again that was very expensive at the time and it probably would have hurt Sega a great deal financially.

Dreamcast's demise was the result of an accumulation of dumb business decisions, poor financial stability, lack of public trust, and the overwhelming hype of the PS2

>>2115076
wat does the vga box do

Guy with the flaky VMU here: I was testing it one last time before I tried to peddle it to a local game shop for a small discount on a different one and I'll be damned if it wasn't working all of a sudden. I did a total memory format just in case the corrupt file on the VMU was the culprit (and I believe it was a corrupt file, it was a red X in a circle with a yellow background and had no information to go on besides a string of "@@@@@@@@@@@@@"), but now more than ever I am morbidly curious. What the hell is making it work intermittently?

Better late than never. Happy birthday.

>>2114340

http://www.amazon.com/Console-Wars-Nintendo-Defined-Generation/dp/0062276697/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1418288854&sr=8-1&keywords=Console+Wars

The book is actually VERY focused around Sega and particularly Sega of America head Tom Kalinske. It will be as good as any.

>>2115202
Gives you vga output so you can connect the dreamcast to a monitor.

>>2114340
I think the nights engine was suggested or even mandated at some point by soj for sonic xtreme. Early builds (the one with sonic on a wide grass level with a river) were running on the nights engine. I think later it didn't work well with sonic or they were finally taken away the engine as you say.

For a long time I was mad at the ps2 because I thought it and people buying that inferior console is what killed the dreamcast. I knew about sega fuck ups but once I found out that those fuck ups were a lot worse that what I thought. I realised then that it was actually sega themselves who killed the dc while she was still unborn. Still it hurts me how people bought the ps2 en masse while the dc was around.
At least sega went out of the hardware business with their heads held high and not like atari who got out after some cheap cash grabs with the jaguar.

>>2114324
Can you put many games? How do you choose them? You have to give away the gdrom drive right?

>>2093190
>hating on SoA

>>2116143

10/10

Would have eaten on my 14th birthday when I got my shiny new Dreamcast.

I should have kept that thing, even though most of the games were crap.

Damn I loved this system. I was the only one in my group of friends who had a Dreamcast and we always played Powerstone.

>>2119082
WELCOME TO THE POWER STONE WARS

Guess I'll dig out my crap too. I used to lug this around to people's houses.

>>2119230
2 DCs, 2 twin sticks. 2 copies of VOOT and a link cable. The only thing missing from my complete setup is 2 LCD panels for a self-contained mobile VOOT platform. But LCD screens at the time were rather expensive.

I rather liked that "Treamcast" china controller I found at a computer show. If you've ever played with a Neo Geo Pocket, then you'd appreciate the microswitch D-pad. Wonderful clicky noises.

The biggest sadness is the lack of a CRT. Can no longer enjoy House of the Dead 2 with a gun in each hand on full autofire/reload and rumble packs.

dat Metropolis Street Racer radio...

might need to go turn it on for old time sake.

>>2119237
Thats a pretty sweet collection

>>2119230
>>2119237

that's a sweet hardware collection right thurr. now hook it up and play it, you pussy.

I had to get VMware fusion to emulate windows just to get imgburn to burn me some Dreamcast games. It's been fun as fuck.

>>2092219
Marvel vs Capcom 2, or vs SNK 2, or powerstone 2, or... just Capcom fighters.

>>2092231
Me and a buddy played when we were young, we talked to that old man and little girl looking for a cat a long time. Got some collectibles, dialed the phone....

>>2109318
Growing up with the gaming press was a great way to learn that media 'elites' are full bullshit like everyone else.