/vr/ - Retro Games

Lunar is one of my favorite games of all time.

>>2050398
I still need to get around to playing them myself, but I've heard pretty good things about the first two games. Is Gaijinworks still trying to get both on the PSN?

On that note, considering everything I've heard about Lunar: Dragon Song on the DS, I feel really sorry for fans of the older games that had to deal with that one.

Lunar is a game series that I cant even bring myself to play but makes me sigh contentedly every time I see or read about it. I still havent spoiled anything about the game for myself.

I really need to play it.

As soon as I find an ISO for the game online, I plan on playing the shit out of this

Lunar SSSC has great music.

http://youtu.be/9zUXqypKGoc?t=4m7s
;____;

Love.

The GBA port is not just one of the worst ports but one of the worst games I have ever played.

The PS1 and Saturn versions are arguably the best ones.

Should I play the Sega CD version or just play Complete Edition on the PS1?

>>2050398
I didn't really like it. Played it on PS1 but I had already played a lot of RPG's like Star Ocean the Second Story and The Legend of Dragoon so Lunar felt very archaic with a predictable "paint by numbers" story. If it was one of your first RPG's or "anime" style games I can see how it would leave an impression but there really isn't anything to set it apart.

>>2050398
Just recently did a stream of this game, and I beat it in two days because it was that great. In the past I've played it numerous times but never got passed disc one.

The characters are interesting, the battle system is -amazing- (are there any other games with similar battle systems?). The sequel is pretty great.

I've only played the PS1 version, though have played the sega cd version of 2. I don't really have a preference.

Also anyone remember how great the guides were for these games? Everything about them were perfect, down from the slip to the memory card stickers, to the comics included.

>>2050575
Battle system isn't that great. You basically do the same thing every battle because there are few spells/special attacks.

>>2050525
I like the complete edition.

I've only played the GBA port when I was a kid but I really wanna pick up the PS1 version when I get the chance.

>>2050550
Star Ocean 2 is generic as fuck, though.

>>2050525
Lunar 1: Playstation
Lunar 2: Sega CD

>>2050826
Good luck with that. If you're wanting an actually complete copy (with all the cool stuff WD included with it) it can be a fair bit pricy. Same with the second game (where I live it's about $130 altogether for both if complete and in good shape; $60 for the first game and about $70 for the second, and that's at the more reasonably priced places).

>>2050841
Ok, so the price of a new game. That isn't pricy at all.

>>2050398

the path is gonna be disappointing. this is the best jrpg ever made. nothing is as good as this game cept for maybe eternal blue

>>2050851
Maybe, but most used games don't tend to cost as much as they did new (though there are of course exceptions). Just saying you might want to make sure you give it some more thought before dropping that much on them, though if you're deadset on them, go ahead. From what I recall, some of the extras Working Designs included with them were pretty damn nice.

>>2050840

What is better about sega CD version of lunar 2? I was going to play it awhile ago after playint the CD version of 1 but got side tracked and haven't gone back to it yet.

>>2050856
Lunar isn't even the best jrpg on the GENESIS, a platform well known for the huge number of jrpgs. And that's a dumb thing to say anyway. The first JRPG I played was Chrono Trigger, and I've since played games I enjoyed more. Lunar 2 was one of them.

>>2050859
Toned down difficulty to a ridiculous degree. The dungeons, the battle system, the magic, the boss fights. It's a much simplified game overall.

Plus the Sega CD version has amazing pixel-art cutscenes which were replaced by really heavily compressed traditionally animated cel cutscenes in the PSX version. Lunar 1's cutscenes animation just consisted of mouths flapping; Lunar 2's was full-on.

>>2050859
It has to do with the huge number of differences between Lunar 1 on the SCD and Lunar 1 on the Playstation. They are basically different games, but the Playstation version has better gameplay and a more fleshed out plot.

Lunar 2 doesn't have these differences. The Playstation version is more or less the same game with cut-down dungeons and minor presentation changes. But the original SCD version has better sound quality, more appealing graphics (darker colors and a slightly less 90's looking artstyle). The dungeons, which were fairly long in the original, were butchered in the playstation remake. And the fullscreen rendered cutscenes are just a treat to watch if you're a fan of seeing the Sega CD actually DO what the CD technology promised could be done. (everyone knows the playstation can show heavily artifacted FMV, seeing the Sega CD do good cutscenes is not usual.)

It isn't a massive difference in quality or anything, though. The Playstation version isn't bad.

>>2050862
To add to this, the Playstation version feels abridged. It moves too quickly and the story feels abrupt. A ton of the personality comes from the cute little sprites, and in the Sega CD version, you have lots of random battles and longer dungeons where you seem to get to know the characters better. The lack of real dungeons in the PS1 version means you are basically moving from story setpiece to setpiece without much in between.

Any time I've seen negative comments about Lunar 2, it is always because they played the Playstation version and just didn't get attached to the characters or story because the pacing feels wrong.

>>2050861
>cel cutscenes

Lunar 2 PSX version was released right as traditional animation was being shelved, and has jarring CGI objects, like the ship, stuck in them. Looks pretty bad. The characters look pretty ugly too. And I usually love seeing traditional animu shorts in my games. The anime intros in the CD versions of Langrisser make me hard.

>>2050861
>>2050862
>>2050865

This might explain why I liked lunar 1 more than 2 for the playstation, despite still liking the characters in 2, but it did feel a bit off compared to 1 at times.

I remember playing the first part of lunar 2 on CD up to lucia joining the party, and felt like it was pretty close to the playstation version except with random encounters, so put it off.

I'll put CD lunar 2 higher on the priority list of games to play.

i bought it at a pawn shop because of DAT ASS on the back cover, but it turned out to be a pretty good RPG

>>2050903
I remember first seeing the back of that cover when it came out. My teenage face turned bright red.

Someone's gotta do it.

The localization sucked so much. Great games otherwise.

>>2051287

>>2050398
I enjoyed it, but it's a dead and frankly tainted RPG series.

>>2051317
>dead
well no shit
>tainted
wat

Lunar 2 is one of the games I play when I want to remember why I like RPGs in the first place

you cant go wrong with either version.

I had lunar 1 on ps1 and i thought it was very average

I'm torn.
I like a lot of the extra content and beefed up storytelling of this remake but prefer the gameplay and spells of the original.
I replayed the original for the first time in 14 years recently.
L2 remake, however, is definitely better than L2 original.

what's Gamearts up to these days anyways

>>2052646

making shitty vita games

I played the GBA game but can't remember ANYTHING of it.

>>2052709
There are many people who wish they could forget the GBA game who envy you.

>>2051932
I like it but the original's random battles and easiness were a bit annoying in some areas.

>>2052858

the PSX version fixed that

how is the PSP version of lunar? any problems with it?

>>2050398
It's great but Eternal Blue really falls off from Silver Star. Well, I only played the Complete PS1 versions and part of EB Saturn but the story remains relatively the same. EB had a major case of sequelitis bent on making a repeat experience of the first one without really having as strong a character.

>>2051708
He's probably referring to Lunar Dragon Song

>>2054453

It's fuck-easy but it does have extra story content and looks a bit nicer. I would still recommend the original over it.

>>2054453
It's shit. Smaller sets, not as charming sprites (subjective), generally, it feels like a tired old man being forced to run.

They gave Mia down-syndrome for some reason.

>>2054453
It's okay, but not as good as the original SCD version or the PS remake.
The complete lack of difficulty really hurts the game. There's some other issues (lag when you change screens, no world map to explore, etc) but they are not nearly as bad.

>>2052858
>remake
>not easy
lol

>>2054667
She just looks autistic to me. Lack of expressive range and all that.

>>2054763
It's subtle to pick up but her facial features are just sharper in the original

Anybody else enjoy the secret Warlords-esque mini-game more than the actual game? picture sorta related since I couldn't find a screenshot from the lunar version

>>2051708
Probably talking about either Dragon Song or Vic Ireland's translation.

Seriously, someone do a retranslation if at least for the comparison.It's decent, but the untranslated version is just a plain different story in some places.

>>2054781
>he thinks that's the original!!
That's cute. How old are you now, kiddo? You're getting so big!

>>2054791
Sorry, PS1 ver. That's the ver. I played so that's why I called it that.

Does that make you feel better now?

>>2054795
Yes. Yes it does. ^_^

Like I said earlier ITT: I like the PSX ver for its beefy story and added content. Sharper art is part of that. Better than the original and all versions since.

>>2054795
Ask me how I know you're 20 years old.

>>2054803
Good. I thought it'd take more to satisfy your autism.

>>2050484
Who in their right mind would sit through that awful singing? Can the player skip it? Who thought it was a good idea to make an RPG musical?

>cringing intensifies

>>2054453
>how is the PSP version of lunar? any problems with it?

it's literally one of the easiest games ever made.

they gave the characters limit breaks and you know what one of them does?

IT MAKES YOU INVINCIBLE! for the whole fight. AND IT WORKS ON ALL THE BOSSES

>>2055183
www.youtube.com/watch?v=er1vEkWx1pw

There's always something worse, anon.

>>2055183
Musical RPGs are a thing, ya know.

>>2050398

Have both for the PS1. Haven't played the originals, but I agree. These games are incredible. Eternal Blue is hands down my fav RPG of all time. Just incredible in every way. Also, it actually had a story chock full of anime cutscenes unlike a certain Square game

One of my favorite rpg series of all time.

>>2058910
Thats awesome but now try getting all the sega cd disc variants.

Those bath scenes sure are steamy~

>>2058910

do you have all the disc variants?

>>2050484
>>2055183
>>2055424

Cheesy, but I don't know what else you would expect in a voice acted anime-as-fuck jrpg from the early 90s.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4b6aG9ZWTYs

>>2059108

Marui is a QT3.14

you know when she's not going full inquisition and murdering the fuck out of non believers

>>2058986
Holy shit Kyle has Hank Hill syndrome.

>>2059117
How do you even get that much muscle and not have a booty

The DGS is real

>>2058910

Think you're hoarding enough of dem dere collector boxes? Not 5 Drossel figmas bad, but still

>>2059108
Fucking Mystere. Man, I couldn't stop laughing when he appeared... great funky theme, too!