/vr/ - Retro Games

Did you play snes final fight for your first beat em up?

>>2029595
There's got to be some skill involved, but I never figured out what that was. Every one I played had one or two very cheap, simple, repetitive moves to beat nearly all the enemies. It felt like I was either cheating or losing all the time.

>>2029595
You would think that if you'd played garbage like Final Fight.

Streets of Rage 2, Final Fight 3, Guardians, Guardian Heroes, Shadows Over Mystara, Die Hard Arcade, Dynamite Cop, Zombie's Revenge, SpikeOut. All much, much better Beat 'em ups.

Final Fight 1 alone - Haggar. Grab everyone, jump, piledrive.

Final Fight 1 two players - Cody, do the combo glitch (two punches, turn around fast, two punches)

Fight Fight 2 - Haggar

Final Fight 3 - Anyone

Are there beat 'em ups that are better or similar to Punisher for the arcade? I was never into this kind of stuff but that game is a blast.

I was actually thinking of the original SoR when I made this thread but just grabbed the first picture I found by running "beat 'em ups" through Google Image.

I particularly hate the end-game sections where they try to do a boss rush. How is ANYONE supposed to beat these games on a limited number of continues?

>>2029595
Nah you just suck at mob control.

>Turtles 4
>Easy difficulty
>8 lives
There. Now you love beat-em-ups. You're welcome.

>>2029631
This, can't believe I forgot it in my list.

One of the most satisfying beat-em-ups out there.

>>2029595
Only a very small portion of beat em ups are actually quarter munchers.
First one that comes to mind is the first tmnt arcade release

>>2029595
>unfair, quarter-munching garbage.
Most arcade games were, if you think about it. Just not long ago there's been a thread complaining how the MKII arcade version was stupid hard in single player, and the complaints weren't without validity.

Beat em uups are some of the most fun you can have playing video games with friends.
>easy to pick up and play
>constant gameplay with little downtime
>challenging
>often great artstyles and rocking music
>cheesy storylines
Too bad the genre is as good as dead nowadays, and games like Castle Crashers, Double Dragon Neon and Guardian Heroes HD couldn't change that.

Does binding both buttons to a single key for one button special/desperation attacks make me a bad person?

OP you could just play easier and funner beat em ups like pic related that also turn into fighting games

>>2029705
Nah.
Some games even had that as an option, usually called "Extra Joy."

>>2029618
SoR2 was garbage, SoR3 was much better

>>2029595
but you're wrong

Sounds like someone got knocked out once too many.

>>2029724
oh dear

>>2029608
Not that anon, but the SNES Final Fight is way easier than the AC version on its default settings.

>>2029595
Git gud!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WHs4gxwUKZY

>>2029595
>Not knowing you can hold up or down at the end of a melee combo to chain it into a throw / suplex without getting closer to the enemy

>>2029618
>Final Fight 3 better than Final Fight arcade
pffft haha

>>2029595
They're mindless fun. No depth nor strategy or anything.

>>2030016
Only if you are a dirty casual, check this.

>>2030004
Or this.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qa3MGYV1FYA

>he never played a bmup at a sleepover with friends

>>2029627
>Cody, do the combo glitch (two punches, turn around fast, two punches)
Isn't that that what his super in Alpha 3 started with?

>>2030058
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aqH0UJlZl-Y#t=293

I'll be damned, it did too

>>2030013
Stop trying to troll. Final Fight 1 is an awful, antiquated game.

>>2030042
>he didn't take turns playing singleplayer PC games at sleepovers because for some reason far more people in his circle of friends had PCs than consoles

>>2030080
Stop being stupid and casual, Final Fight 3 is a shitty beat em up like all Final Fight SNES games, i mean, only 3 enemies on screen? slowdowns? pffft haha.

While we're at the topic of beat'em ups, can you guys give some more arcade suggestions for MAME? I've looked at /v/'s recommended games, but I'm sure their list is missing one or another gem.

>>2030063
As if I didn't already have enough reasons to love Alpha 3.

>>2029595
I generally agree with you if you're playing them alone but they're fun with friends. D&D: Shadow over Mystara is especially good.

>>2030085
>stupid and casual

Final Fight 1 is the most stupid, casual beat-em-up around.

Here's a board you might prefer:
>>>/v/

>>2030087
Guardians/Denjin Makai 2, if you haven't played it before.

>>2030095
I've played very few beat'em ups before - a negligible amount actually - so pretty much any suggestion will be new to me.

>>2030093
>no actual argument
>sent me to /v/
Whatever, underage.

>>2030087
You're in luck. I just made a whole list of them, which I'm gonna use to make a recommendations image.If a game is absent you wish to be added, feel free to comment so I can add it.

Alien vs Predator
Armored Warriors/ Powered Gear
Asterix
Battle Circuit
Bucky O'Hare
Cadillacs and Dinosaurs
Captain Commando
Combatribes
Denjin Makai
Denjin Makai 2
Die Hard Arcade
double dragon
double dragon 2
double dragon 3
Dynamite Cop
Final Fight
Gaia Crusaders
Golden Axe
Golden Axe revenge of death adder
Growl
Knights of the Round
Knuckle Bash
Metamorphic Force
Night Slashers
Ninja Baseball Bat Man
Oriental Legends 2
Pu-Li-Ru-La
Pretty Soldier Sailor Moon
Renegade
Sengoku
Sengoku 2
Sengoku 3
Shadow Force
Streets of Rage
Streets of Rage 2
Streets of Rage 3
Super Battletoads
Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles
Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles Turtels in Time
The King of Dragons
The Punisher
The Simpsons Arcade Game
Undercover Cops
Vendetta
Violent Storm
Warriors of Fate
X-Men

>>2030105
Kill yourself.

>>2030113
Personally I love Splatterhouse, but that might just be my nostalgic affection speaking.

>>2029595
>>2029613
While they are designed to be quarter eaters, the enemies in these games have weaknesses and vulnerability patterns which can be taken advantage of.
>>2030058
that's fucking cool

>>2029713
I loved that game as a kid. Will I ruin my childhood memories if I replay it or is it actually a good game?

>>2029595
You don't know how to play beat'em ups. You just sit there and mash the buttons and don't even think about what you're doing. You quit after 15 minutes and make threads like these.

You are a casual. There, said it.

>>2029595
Arcades were the original 'Pay to Win'

>>2030205
Only if you are really bad or the game is really cheap.

Stuff like Cadillacs and Dinosaurs, King of Dragons, Golden Axe, Sunset Riders, Ghouls n Ghosts etc aren't that hard to 1CC, you just have to be skilled enough.

>>2029595
beat 'em ups are one of the best genres ever, and there aren't anywhere near enough of them.

>>2030087
>>2030104
>NES
Battletoads
Battletoads & Double Dragon
Double Dragon
Double Dragon II: The Revenge
Double Dragon III: The Sacred Stones
River City Ransom (Nekketsu Kōha Kunio-kun 2)
Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles II: The Arcade Game
Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles III: The Manhattan Project
>Genesis
Alien Storm
Battletoads
Battletoads & Double Dragon
Captain America and The Avengers
Comix Zone
Golden Axe II
Golden Axe III
Mighty Morphin Power Rangers: The Movie
Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles: The Hyperstone Heist
>Sega CD
Final Fight
>SNES
Battletoads in Battlemaniacs
Battletoads & Double Dragon
Final Fight
Final Fight 2
Final Fight 3
Knights of the Round
Return of Double Dragon (Super Double Dragon) (Imp)
Rushing Beat Ran (Brawl Brothers)
Rushing Beat Shura (The Peace Keepers)
Shin Nekketsu Kōha Kunio-kun: Kunio Tachi no Banka (FanTran)
Sonic Blast Man II
Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles IV: Turtles in Time
The Ninja Warriors Again
>Sega Saturn
Dungeons & Dragons Collection
Dynamite Deka
Guardian Heroes
>Sega Dreamcast
Dynamite Deka 2 (Dynamite Cop)
Zombie Revenge
>>2030113
>Arcade
Alien Storm
Burning Fight
Crime Fighters
Dungeon Magic (Lightbringer)
Dungeons & Dragons: Tower of Doom
Dungeons & Dragons: Shadow over Mystara
Dynamite Deka
Dynamite Deka 2 (Dynamite Cop)
Eight Man
Gaiapolis
Guardians
King of The Monsters
King of The Monsters 2
Mutation Nation
Robo Army
The Simpsons Arcade Game

>>2030224
There are enough, but they're from nowhere near enough eras. You look at the ones that get recommended often and there's a 95% chance they're from between 1988 and 1998.

>>2030205

Pay to play, not pay to win. If you are a really really bad player doesn't matter if you put US$1000 or 1 in the machine, you won't finish the game. I can 1cc in Golden Axe but need lots of coins to finish Street Fighter 2. The solution for it? I need to git gud.

>>2030221
>>Ghouls n Ghosts
Stop reading right there
hahahahaha

>>2030224
>beat 'em ups are one of the best genres ever but their audience sucks and nearly nobody knows how to make good ones.
FTFY

>>2030250
Might want to add Cyborg Justice for the Genesis to your list. It was a pretty sweet robot beat em-up where you could pull the limbs off your enemies and put them on yourself, so you could change weapons and legs easily.

>>2030407
Oh jesus christ please tell me you're joking. Cyborg Justice is one of the worst games to ever touch the Mega Drive.

You wanna add something, add Enter the Dragon, at least that's playable despite the bullshit difficulty.

>>2030407
>Cyborg Justice

Just take a look at that chilling robot walking animation
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5HPRXv-e9IE#t=2135

>>2029724
Well yeah, if you compare it to fucking Final Fight, even SOR3 is a masterpiece.

>>2030342
Seriously dude? it's the easier of the series, much more action oriented than cheap deads like the first game.

>>2030434
I finished the iphone one, if that makes you happy

>>2029629
You just suck. Streets of Rage is fucking awesome, but it's even more awesome in 2-player mode.

>>2030337
>If you are a really really bad player doesn't matter if you put US$1000 or 1 in the machine, you won't finish the game.

No, what? That isn't how it works.

if you have lots of cash you can just bruteforce any game with a continue function, you don't need any amount of skill to finish most beat em ups given infinite continues

>>2030250
There's Legend I think for the SNES.

Me and a friend played this after school a lot when we were kids. We still do from time to time. Dunno what's the general opinion of it though.

>>2030176
It's still a good game, really simple but it's not boring since it has extremely varied levels and it's only 5 stages of beating up and then 2 stages of fighting game.

>>2030125
nah its a fun game, fuck people who hate on single plane beat em ups. Vigilante is fun too.

OP, are you playing these games alone? Because there are very few that I enjoy by myself. But with my brother or a bud, there are a shit load of fun times to be had. Kind of like playing fightan and wrastlin' games, it's just not as fun when it's just 1 player.

>>2030409
>>2030417
The only problem with Cyborg Justice was that the controls weren't very arcade-y, which is probably because they wanted the game to have a huge move set for a 3 button pad.

Other than that, it was really a pretty sweet game, just not the best of the genre.

The "build your robot" mechanic was mind blowing for me, and I loved the fact that you could not only beat robots, but tear their parts off and use them for yourself, or you could even rebuild a defeated enemy! And then beat them up a second time. I don't think any other game allowed you to specifically humiliate opponents like that, until the Mercy move in MK3. But in Cyborg Justice, it also had tactical value, because if you put an enemy together, you could still tear off their torso, which gave you extra health. So if you accidentally killed an enemy with normal attacks or lasers and whatnot, you could rebuild them to do a proper finishing move.

double dragon 2 and TMNT IV were my favorites. if you can't appreciate those you probably don't like video games.

>>2030092
>fun with friends

I like beat'em ups, but that's hardly justification for their being good.

>>2030459

If it is a fighting game you won't, as you have to replay against the boss for two rounds again. At some point you will figure out what you need to do in order to beat him, good players tend to realize quickly. In the case of a beat'em up, even if you bruteforce you can make ridiculous amounts of damage in any boss or group of enemies during your invincibility time or even using desperate moves, if you have nothing to lose. It's even hard to think some people don't do it, is instinctive.

>>2030579
Most games are more fun, or just fun, with friends, but the case with beat em ups is that playing with friends decreases the difficulty, making the games much more fun to just pick up and play. If you delve into them and get good at them, you'll find that many beat em ups feature a surprising amount of depth, not just in the moves you can perform, but more importantly in understanding and exploiting enemy attack patterns. Hardly anybody is willing to do that, mostly because beat em ups are so unforgiving, so most people consider the genre to be unfair and just not fun playing alone.

>>2030250
>Alien Storm
Fuck me that game looks like fun with the gallery shooting sections and the wacky art direction.

>>2030250
>Genesis
>no Streets of Rage

>>2029595
>beat em up thread
>no mention of mazin saga
Step it up.

>>2029595
Well, that's just your opinion. And I will not hate, harass or threaten you for it.

>>2029631
>This
>Playing the arcade version with friends
Even better

>>2030819
>And I will not hate, harass or threaten you for it.

I'll piledrive OP into an oil drum and hit him in the head with a pipe for it.

Then when he's knocked out (until he respawns later) I'll eat a leg of turkey out of said oil drum.

>>2029595
That's why you play the home console ports.
I must say, Final Fight is pretty repetitive, so why do I like FF3 so much?

>>2029595
That's neither Streets of Rage nor Golden Axe. That's the problem right there.

>>2029595
Sunset Riders. Best beat them up ever. The arcade version. Four guys. Bullets everywhere. A clusterfuck so awesome you dance while you're playing it.
And we all wanted to be Cormano. That delicious pink poncho wearing mexican that duel wielded shotguns.

>>2031001
Anon a side scrolling shoot-em up is not a beat em up.

one uses punches and various melee weapons

the other uses guns

>>2030092
Back in college I managed to rope a friend into playing SoR2 with me on the Xbox 360 (a game that came from a theft of my Xbox LIVE account that I eventually managed to reclaim).

It was alright but neither of us still had the talent to really do effectively and eventually squandered all our continues (I think that happened at the stage in the baseball stadium).

I'm working on a retro styled beat em up, with branching level paths featuring these guys.

>>2031221
If you're serious, this...actually looks really cool.

>>2031221
Wait is that bush? Rock n' Roll! I like you already.

>>2031221
That hooded chick's outfit gives Dragon's Crown a run for its money.

>>2031221
>>2031361

She's pretty much not wearing anything from the boobs down.

>>2031361
I'm not a fan of nude for the sake of nude, but I'll give every character in that pic a pass over DC because I think DC's proportions look awful (except on the Elf, which is literally the only design I like in that game).

>>2031221
Image search, no results
Band circle of heroes, no relevent results

Well shit.

You had better not have anyone in game make a big deal of the oddly naked women. Like, sure, theres a tribe of barbarian/amazon women or whatever that wonder around naked.

But having said that, I want to see that character use sophitias heaven to hell throw http://youtu.be/PVQnB8bBkrw?t=1m39s

>>2031221
wait questions

How on earth did this project even happen like this?

A group of indie devs get a team together to make a game. Then at some point in the process the artist comes back with naked women as a character design and the rest of the team do not have any questions? No one asking how you are going sell and promote this game when one of your main characters is near nude?

Would steam, desura or wherever else let you sell on their stores?

Got good answers for when sjw`s complain, or for when rational people ask if you are just using this character design to stir up controversy?

Fuck sorry for he non /vr/, but my mind boggles. Would have no issue with this becoming a real game of course, bonus points if it also ended up being genuinely good.

>>2029595
git gud and get the fuck off /vr/

>>2031834
>doesn't like a particular genre of game
>OFF MUH BOARD

>>2031830
>naked women
There's only one woman, and she has more clothes than that near-naked guy. Vanguard Princess got in Steam, there's no reason this game couldn't.

>>2030819
Far cry from /v/...

I only liked beat em ups as an infant. Played the fuck out of Sengoku 3. Now I see how boring they really are.

>>2029595
I don't really like them very much, but I sure enjoyed Fighting Force on the PS1. And I had a fucking blast playing Guardian Heroes (port-remake for 360) with a friend online.

>>2030757
Yeah sure man, too bad the boss fights just fucking destroy the game. And the Beat em Up segments are too easy anyway.
A really weird game, managed to beat it though, but there's no way of beating the bosses without cheesing them. And the last Boss fight you legitimately just need luck on your side, there was no safe strategy to actually beat him.

>>2031229
Thanks!
>>2031247
Yes, you see bush.
>>2031406
The nudity is part of the character, and I don't plan on it being splayed out all over the place. In fact, I'm actively trying to keep it tasteful.
>>2031818
I honestly created that character as a way to cause tension in the story. How would normal people react to this pagan sex witch walking around mostly naked? Plus the nudity actually factors into the gameplay.
>>2031830
>Then at some point in the process the artist comes back with naked women as a character design and the rest of the team do not have any questions? No one asking how you are going sell and promote this game when one of your main characters is near nude?
The whole game has come from a failed comic series attempt. I didn't want the characters to die and started adapted the script to work as a side scrolling beat em up. As for promotion and getting the game out there, I guess we'll worry about that once we get closer to completion. If people get offended just by her being naked, wait until they find out that she actually gets impregnated by demons and gives birth to dark familiars as part of her move set.
As for SJW types, the character is totally pro woman. She comes from a sect of all female nature witches, doesn't wear clothes just because other people want her too. I mean, she fights along side the others even when she's pregnant (she loses speed, but her magic gets stronger)

Thanks for the good response though guys. Some concept art for you.

>>2030113

>Ninja Baseball Batman

That is a really great game for something so wacky.

DISCLAIMER: Title of the game only contains 2 of the 3 things mentioned.

>>2031890
That's because it's Ninja Baseball Bat Man, not Ninja Baseball Batman.

>>2031884
Thanks for the answers. Is there any kind of website for the game yet? Want to see what becomes of this idea now.

>>2031897

Look here, we'll have none of your logic around here ruining things like fun and joviality.

>>2031901
No, no website or promotion until everything works how it shold work. Plus the art assets are slow to materialize so a lot of stuff is just placeholder type things for now. Thanks for the encouragement though,

>>2031884
This is /vr/ not the AGDG on /vg/ go take your shit there.

>>2031884
>trying to keep it tasteful
>pagan sex witch
>As for SJW types, the character is totally pro woman

Yeah I can totally see how a character created solely for the purposes of sexual reproduction would be viewed in a positive light by todays SJWs.

I think the whole SJW thing is out of hand but you're pretty much actively inciting them with this. Your response to the criticism offered so far has been, at best, stunning. I hope you aren't the PR guy for this project.

Good luck either way, hope you accomplish whatever it is you're trying to do.

>>2031904
At least it now delivers on all four promises now.

>>2029595
>he actually fed endless quarters into it

1 credit rule

>>2030176
No I still play it and it's awesome.

>>2029595

I just finished one cps2 machine, just for fighting games.

Now I have to clean this bad boy up. One of the finest in four player beat em up action. The monitor is a little wonky, and the buttons are sticky. I'll probably just replace everything instead of cleaning it up.

>quarter munching
>console beat em ups have set continues

Get good.

>>2029595
>The genre is nothing but unfair, quarter-munching garbage

Oh OP, that's not how you say "fighting games"

>>2030250
>>2030642
>no Bare Knuckle III

>>2030642
>>2033072
I added onto what
>>2030113
already had.

>>2033072
>BKIII instead of SoR3
You're alright.

>>2029684

>Too bad the genre is as good as dead nowadays

except dynasty warriors series

>>2030082

>he didn't take turns playing singleplayer PC games

Yeah, because sleepover is supposed to be fun.

Yeah right, because sleepover is supposed to be fun.

Also:

Why not both?

>>2033287
Dynasty Warriors is consistently shit on by everybody though

>>2033324
The reviews for DW8XL and SW4 show that you're the one who should be shit on.

>>2033356

Because reviews are always accurate right?

>>2033287
>>2029684

And Dead Rising

>>2033364
What point are you trying to argue here? It doesn't match the conversation.

Person A says the games are shit on by everyone. Person B says that people who have reviewed the game (and I'm sure he's talking beyond big sites as well) like it.

What are you arguing here?

>>2033064
>Oh OP, that's not how you say "fighting games"

it doesn't get more casual than this

>>2029595
git gud

>>2033598
Single-player fighting games often simply cheat.

>>2033287
I'm still hoping for River City Ransom Underground to pull through.