/vr/ - Retro Games

>>2028270
>Look at me, I had a sega genesis!! seriously, look at me!!!

Well, I had a nes, snes. Never cared too much for the genesis and the sega cd was a failure, but it had a few gems, very few.

>Also, muh games, I so not casual, etc

Only someone from /v/ would call a Genesis a Gen/MD or a SEGA CD a Sega/Mega CD.

Please leave.

>>2028289
>Never cared too much for the genesis
Then again, you never had one so now is the right time to be emulating and checking out what it had to offer.

>but it had a few gems, very few.
Actually, of the 210 games released on it, I'd say about 2/3's of it is decent to good. Can't say the same about 32X.

>>2028293
I rarely visit /v/, but I like the sound of Mega Drive better. I use the term often. I've also taken to calling the SNES the Super Famicom in certain instances.

>>2028312
Do you have a Super Famicom pin for your fedora too?

This is clearly 98% of the posters here, everyone is so clueless and uninformed.

>>2028293
Considering they were called Genesis and Sega-CD only in North America and everywhere else they were Mega Drive and Mega-CD, I see nothing wrong in calling it like that.
You know, the US aren't the center of the world or some kind of global trend setter.

>>2028302

that was my point. you are a sega fan fag that was not supposed to exist anymore, for at least 15 years.
I have all the genesis roms, played all the important ones, most hidden gems. Also I'm 33, I lived the old console wars.

By the way... no. Just no. 2/3 of the sega cd game are not good.

>>2028331
The games are vastly different for SEGA CD and Mega CD.

>>2028335
No they're fucking not

>>2028337
Are you serious right now?

>>2028335
The point was that referring to a console and its add-ons with multiple names due to the console and its add-ons being named differently depending on where they were released is correct, and not "Only someone from /v/ would do"

I got a few. I do think some games are really hard to play due to "dated" controls. Though I hesitate to call graphics or controls dated as much as just bad.

Like I think Goldeneye 64 is a shitty game, but I always though it was underwhelming. PD was a lot better but I do think calling it dated is justified in this case.

I also own novelty fashion but that's because I genuinely like it. I'm not trying to appeal to anyone other than myself.

>>2028341
yes

>>2028343
You either call it a mega drive or a Genesis. Same for the SEGA CD.

>>2028270
>Assumes that the majority of pc owners had the best hardware available

Maybe not the majority, but when you're talking to a pc owner about an old game, you assume that person knew the status quo when it came out and did eventually play it at a later date by improving his hardware, and thus knows what the game was like at the time of release, no? Unless it's in reference to something else.

This thread sucks. Make love, not war.

>>2028334
I'm not OP, but I am a Sega fan. I'm also a Nintendo fan, having owned a NES and having spent a large portion of my late teens/early adulthood "catching up" on the SNES.

And yes, 2/3 of Sega CD's library is "decent" to good (notice the decent), about the same or even better than the SNES/Genesis. It's just that Night Trap, Make My Video: Marky Mark and the Funky Bunch and Desert Bus from Penn & Teller's Smoke and Mirrors (which never got an official release btw) gets all the attention.

And since we're bringing age into this, I turn 30 in a month or so.

>>2028349
Well you don't know what you're talking about. I don't think any of the games were optimized for pal. You never got games like Popful mail and many others.
Then you got the jap consoles which had a much bigger library than either the US or EU.

There's also multiple hardware differences between them.

>>2028326

When I refer to the system's hardware I'll say Super Famicom because that is the original and base version of the system. When I refer to a US NTSC game I'll say SNES.

If you want to call me a "kid" because of this fine. But the truth is I think it's the kids who get so angry and defensive about being perceived as some kind of weaboo.

I'm almost 30, I don't give a fuck.

>>2028361
Fair enough. Just seems to be a hipster thing to refer to the consoles by reversion or the jap name.

>>2028350
Are you retarded or what?
Calling it either Genesis or Mega Drive(same for add-ons) would imply only the US-NTCS either counts or doesn't.
Since you can't know if the reader is from US or not, and since there are multiple readers coming from the entire world, it is correct to refer to it with both the names it had.

>>2028351
Yes, but the OP pic says "in year X", implying, as example, "Assumes that the majority of pc gamers in 1993 had the best hardware available in 1993", so it has nothing to do with getting the best 1993 hardware in later years and playing games released in 1993 in later years.

Note that 1993 is just an example.

Row 1 line 4 ignores country bias. There are countries in which games weren't legitimate mainstream hobbies until the PS2 or later generations. In fact, I'd never seen an outdoor game ad, games featured in news (except for Carmageddon once when local Fox news-imitator found out about it), ads for games on mainstream tv channels (consoles, yes, but mostly around xmas) and similar signs of "mainstream-ity" until the PS3 generation. Regardless, the word itself is debatable. They're more popular than they were 15 years ago, therefore more socially acceptable.

And I still know nothing about the TG-16.

>>2028371
You're just fucked up in the head.

>>2028376
No I just actually go outside.

>has ever thaken retro gaming advice from a YT celebrity seriously

Yes, and I still do sometimes with LGR and the DOS games he shows. If wasn't for him, I'd never discovered Zeliard, for example.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g0FVQYgSnU0

the sega CD WAS a shit addon

it had very few good games that justified its price, and the majority of its library was crap

>>2028372
>so it has nothing to do...
What's the assumption to do with, then?
>inb4 lurk moar

>actually defending resellers pricing for retro games/hardware

Kill yourself

No really, kill yourself

>>2028371
Not the one you're responding to, but the autism over the "correct" names of systems baffles me.
I've seen people here go apeshit over someone calling the Genesis Mega Driver or MD, even though that's the original name of the system and known as such to the majority of the world, and that whole PS1/PSX nonsense debate was staggeringly idiotic. I myself usually refer to the TurboGrafx-16 as the PC Engine, mainly because it's a less retarded name to type out and because more than half of its games never left Japan. If that bothers you or anyone else, tough shit.

>>2028270
>believe that the accuracy of N64 emulation is a good representation of the original hardware

If by that you mean "N64 emulation is bad because the N64 is an awkward machine that hardly anyone knows how it works", isn't that true? The NES and SNES were relatively simple machines, and both have reached near accurate emulators. The N64 is lucky if it can even boot all games.

let's hide this

>>2028270
I don't know anything about the turbographix, and I did once take HVGN's advice about Gargoyle's Quest. Other than that, I'm a true retro-fag

>>2028371
Not the one you're responding to, but the autism over the "correct" names of systems baffles me.
I've seen people here go apeshit over someone calling the Genesis Mega Drive or MD, even though that's the original name of the system and known as such to the majority of the world, and that whole PS1/PSX nonsense debate was staggeringly idiotic. I myself usually refer to the TurboGrafx-16 as the PC Engine, mainly because it's a less retarded name to type out and because more than half of its games never left Japan. If that bothers you or anyone else, tough shit.

*Edited because of a typo.

>>2028392
it is kinda true, though there is much more known about it than there was before, but the main reason for lack of progress within N64 emulation is lazyness and in fighting. The N64 emulation scene is a world in it's self where back stabing and stupid self promotion comes before having a usable product.

>>2028403
I can see the PS1/PSX thing. Verbally everyone I knew said PlayStation. Maybe in retardville they said psx.

>>2028386
With the fact that only someone from /v/(implies underaged who never lived the retro era) would think most people had the best hardware available in any given year.
It's like if someone from 2034 assumed most pc gamers in 2014 had an i7.

>>2028392
What...no?
believe that the accuracy of N64 emulation is a good representation of the original hardware = believes N64 emulation is accurate and 99% close to the original hardware.

>>2028401
you should really look into the TG16/PC Engine, emulation isn't that hard these days and it had a lot of really nice games that don't get enough attention, including a great enhanced port of Wonder Boy 3, though it was retitled Dragon's Curse of some reason.

>>2028401
this is kind of true. I'm 33, I played videogames my whole life, everyone had either sega or nintendo consoles, but I only played TG and TGCD after emulation, and I was not impressed. It was lovely, but I kind of understand why I had a snes.

>>2028406
It's not about what you say, it's about what you type out. It was abbreviated in promotional material and magazines (one called PSX Magazine) as the PSX back in the day but also as the PS1, so either one is fine. Nobody says "PlayStationEKS" but everyone that knows anything about the system understands what you mean by PSX.

Ironically, OP, your thread is /v/ as fuck. You don't have to play King's Quest, get enjoyment out of the VCS library or love Zelda 2 to belong on /vr/. Just talk about retro games instead of meta or SJW shit. I agree with all the objective stuff in that chart, though.

>>2028410
>believes N64 emulation is accurate and 99% close to the original hardware.
I don't think anyone believes this though.

>>2028410
>With the fact that only someone from /v/
Yeah I know the implication, I was asking during what circumstances would they make use of it, as shown by me trying to reason with the logic in a previous post. That's what I don't get. So what if an underage thinks you had a AGP card in 1999. You did get to play UT in 2001 so there's no real difference, discussion-wise.

>>2028419
You should look up Ultra64. No one calls it that. Guess it's not as cool as PSX.

By the way, I had a MSX, with the cassette reader and all those cool konami games that started the company, I played metal gear solid before you were even born (and I didn't understand shit, because I was too young).

there... super retro credibility.

>>2028420

I think the Zelda 2 thing isn't that you need to like it but there are a lot of people who hate on it because think they're supposed to.

>>2028425
Understandable. It takes the same amount of time to type out PS1 and PSX, but typing out Ultra64 takes longer than n64.

PSX was a codename, and since Sony eventually released a piece of hardware called the PSX, still calling the PS1 a PSX is wrong.

I don't hate resellers for being resellers. I hate resellers for hoarding games and jacking up prices to ridiculous amounts, Earthbound being a prime example of this. I get that idiots are willing to pay that much for copies of the game, but that still doesn't make it right.

>>2028427
Neat, but who are you talking to?
I knew this guy growing up who had a MSX at his house. Was super jelly of him, Nemesis 2 looked and sounded so cool on it.

>>2028419
PSX actually didn't come commonplace until the PS2 came out and it was meant to cover all the playstation systems. As and abreviation for the PS1 it's self it makes no sense and looks stupid. Also PSX Magazine was an abreviation for Playstation EXTREME, which was the original name of the magazine.

Once they cancelled Gals Panic, there was no point in getting a MegaCD any more.

>>2028435
But idiots dictate every other business practice. You don't go around ruing having to pay 40000$ for a fucking pickup truck just because there are enough idiots willing to pay that amount to set the market.

>>2028435
>>2028442
This I know, but my original point still stands that it doesn't really matter because everyone understands what people are talking about here either way, and I seriously doubt there's a large PS2 PSX community here or anywhere on western retro boards.

>>2028270
Yes, i do get angry at resellers for their prices, especially when they have the most common PS1 games set at 50-70 dollars and most common NEs games at 20 dollars, and when asked why all they can say is "the playstation was popular, and the NES is old and no one wants those games so the price is lower"

tl;dr: yes i hate resellers because they know nothing about what they're selling

>>2028439
Talking to OP and everyone else, was more of a joke, because everyone is so OMG I have so much street cred.
I loved my MSX, my favorite games was penguin adventure (kojima!!!!!!) and Yie Ar Kung-Fu.
Seriously, get your /vr/ heads wrapped in this... I played the first game kojima ever made, when it was kind of new.

>>2028445
but if some one were to try selling a 25 year old second hand truck for that much do you think anyone would actually buy it?

>>2028443
Gals Panic sucked though, go play it.

>>2028470
It's like real-estate. It's worth EXACTLY as much as someone is willing to pay for it. Not as much as they claim they are, but as much as they actually do.

>>2028451
yet almost everything in your orginal post indicates that you didn't know.

>>2028474
I say this all the time to you idiots. And no I'm not the anon you're talking to.
Market value =/= some nut job's idea of value

>>2028470

Depends on what truck it is. My Jeep Comanche isn't worth as much as a Chevy c-10

>>2028474
exactly this, basic economy.
I don't see car collectors bitching on the interwebs about how a ferrari 250 gto is not worth 10 millions and they are going to the flea market to get one for 10 bucks.
Because they are not fucking broke retards, yes they are manchilren with way too much money, but they are allowed to expend it any way they want.
To me anything I want that is under 20 dollars is a good deal, I tip more in restaurants.

k bye

>>2028481
but no 25 year old second hand truck is worth 40,000, just like no copy of earthbound is worth $300

>>2028485
Except for the idiot who find a ferrari 250 gto in a barn that's rusted into the ground and has no documents but wants fully restored price for it.

hey just like the resellers with video games!

>>2028485

Did you use babelfish to translate your post?

>>2028474
So if someone puts a Super Mario Bros NES cart on ebay for 4000$ and some idiot actually buys it, then Super Mario Bros value skyrockets to 4000$?

>>2028485
>people that have less money then you are worse people than you
don't bring this shit into this.

>>2028494

No, that's what that specific cart is worth.

>>2028463
What a coincidence, my friend had Antarctic Adventure on his MSX as well, though I myself mainly played the NES version.
Speaking of oldKonami, the first game I ever bought with my allowance was a famiclone version of Wai Wai World 2, purchase judged purely on the cover art. I lucked out, wish more people had played it and I wish developers would make such love letters to their games today.

>>2028497
No it's not idiot. Please stop talking. Just because you dump money into something doesn't mean that item increases in value.
I can pay a million for a pile of dirt. It's a still a fucking pile of dirt.

>>2028463
What a coincidence, my friend had Antarctic Adventure on his MSX, though I myself mainly played the NES version.
Speaking of oldKonami, the first game I ever bought with my allowance was a famiclone version of Wai Wai World 2, purchase judged purely on the cover art. I lucked out, wish more people had played it and I wish developers would make such love letters to their games today.

>>2028489
You raise an interesting question, now that you mention uncommon cars. You've heard of the Yugo, right?

>allegedly an unreliable car that had problems rather frequently, though some people say that people treated it like a disposable car and did no maintentance
>it sold rather well, but most were breaking down or junked
>very few on craigslist
>supposedly they're so uncommon, only one of them is registered in the entire state of Florida
>they're still dirt cheap

I should ask /o/ if the Yugo really was a bad car, or if it was simply an AVGN like stigma popular culture gave it.

>>2028497
No, that's just what an idiot spent to buy a common cart.
If i sell some shitty $ 1game to someone for an absurdly high price, that specific game cart's worth is still one fucking follar

>>2028492
No I'm super drunk and english is not my primary language. So suck it.
xoxo

>>2028498
I have to wonder why this post was deleted... there is nothing offensive, stupid, or off here...

>>2028514
Duplicate post.

>>2028517
actually it seems that he corrected a few mistakes, but I didn't notice the other post until after.

>>2028503
If you paid a million for a pile of dirt then that pile of dirt IS worth a million dollars you stupid fuckass, value of anything is worth what people are going to pay for it.

>hurr I can pay a million for a davinci that doesn't mean it's not a stupid painting I can print for free

>>2028270
>creating a thread to expose and demonize the "Other" instead of talking about retro vidya

To speak in your terms, sounds pretty /v/ to me.

>>2028508

It's worth $1 according to who?

Additionally if you're selling Earthbound carts for $1 I'll take as many as you have.

>>2028521
You couldn't have past high school. Damn you are legit retarded.

>>2028528

>i have no argument so ill just call them retarded

If people are paying $1, $100 or $100000 for a specific SNES game that's how much it's worth.

>>2028504
get the fuck out... (by the way, I'm the guy way too drunk with bad english)
I had a buddy that had wai wai world 2, we called it konami's world 2, I loved playing with simon and the goemon.
We had family in japan and it was pure luck, sometimes they sent amazing games, sometimes it was DQ in japanese (amazing, but, come the fuck on...)

anyway... I also like parodius, but I like the stages in wai wai world 1 where we play as pop in twin bees. brilliant game.

>>2028528
Nice rebuttal dipshit.

>>2028521
have you never heard of supply in demand? a fundimental economic concept where cost equals how much of a product can be produced to meet demand, even though the game is no long in production the game was no where near rare in the first place, which means that there are more than enough copies to go around and people are selling it all the fucking time, which means that high prices are not justified at all.

>>2028537
and demand*

>>2028535
>>2028532
Well guess I'm going to invest in buying some dirt. Because a good is apparently worth as much as I buy it for. Damn if I ever look up market value again. Just go by what I paid.

>>2028540

No, it's worth what you sell it for.

So far we came into conclusion that people into retro videogames are retards with no money that think that a reprint of van goth is worth as much as the original (they said da vinci, but that's way too retarded).
And that a ferrari 250 gto is the same as a piece of shit 2cv, as long as people are willing to pay for it.

protip (they are not)

>>2028545
Market value is not based off 1 data point.

>>2028547

Except none of those things were said.

Protip: invest in some ESL classes

>>2028547
gogh!!!!!!!!!!! sorry for that

how did I do

>>2028534
Man, what happened to Konami... they used to be cool. Now, the only focus is Kojima vanity projects, outsourced Castlevania (in name only) and Japan only social media wank and Pachinko nonsense.

>>2028537
>which means that there are more than enough copies to go around and people are selling it all the fucking time, which means that high prices are not justified at all.
>Price is solely judged by how much of X exists
Nike shoes and Intel i7s ought to be 3 dollars each then.

>>2028540
>Because a good is apparently worth as much as I buy it for
Well if you decided to buy it for that much then it was obviously worth that much because it was sold for that much, is this such a complex concept for you to understand?

>>2028562
gb2 /highschoolecenomicsclass/

>>2028561
Also doesn't help that they bought Hudson soft, and are so far just sitting on it and its games...

>>2028565
>I still have no rebuttal
>>>/v/

>>2028562
>Well if you decided to buy it for that much then it was obviously worth that much because it was sold for that much
People actually think like this. These kind of people post on /vr/. They think there's nothing wrong with this logic. Know this the next time you see a ridiculously priced item on ebay or craigslist.

>>2028570
what is the point of a rebuttal when you will just constantly respond with you incorrect flawed logic no matter what I say, it's like arguing with some one that thinks the moon landing was faked, I'm not going to get anywhere so why bother and make myself angry?

>>2028572
Do you actually have anything to refute what's being said or are you just going to keep pretending to be right?

>>2028578
>What is the point of trying to respond when I can just say your argument is full of flaws without pointing out which and use ad hominems
>>>/v/

>>2028582
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unit_price

Maybe some of it will get through your thick skull. Doubt it but you never know.

>>2028442
>Also PSX Magazine was an abreviation for Playstation EXTREME, which was the original name of the magazine.
and the playstation was known as the playstation eXperimental you dolt, PSX was a common abbreviation way before the PS2.

>>2028607
no one actually called it that once it came out though you dolt, since well... it was out... and wasn't an experiment anymore... but a product you could actually buy

>>2028561
the whole japanese game industry went to the toilet.
the market became way too competitive with games worth hundred of millions, and the japanese market became stale and isolated.
Kind of sad... there are still cool games, but most of what we see are shooting games with players jumping like monkeys and calling my mom a whore (and I don't even play online, they are just that annoying).
And konami and capcom are the lucky ones, they are still around. Aaaand nintendo.
Most of konami games are never coming back, and they could. They are just too stupid to make money.
A gradius on iphone that cost 10 cents a life would make millions.

>>2028594
the funny part is that you are doing the exact same thing.

>>2028425
I used to have a friend that called it Ultra 64. Probably still does.

>>2028561
>>2028621

I think you know what happened. Isn't the timing a bit convenient?

>>2028621
capcom is almost dead as a company though and are just scraping by. Also, I think that it has less to do with a competitive market and more to do with the fact that most of the japanese gaming industry is still run by the same people that started it in the late 70s/early 80s, and they are set in their ways and unwilling to except new or inovative ideas.

>>2028629
things started going south before he died.
but that the way japanese economics work, they invent something, then others start to make it cheaper.

People who call old games "retro games" automatically get bingo.

>>2028641
yes... but, for me, lucrative is also crap.
as I said about the iphone gradius.
squrenix is making mobile final fantasies and... fuck that. I know it makes money and I hope the best for them, but they are supposed to be a AAA maker.

>>2028646
I'm not talking about when he died, I'm talking when Nintendo was unseated from the throne. Companies around the world cherished their new king and their freedom, but they were TOO free. Competition was near nonexistent with the Playstation consoles, ergo there is no motivation to create games for other hardware.

>>2028595
Is this supposed to disprove what I'm saying? Have you bothered to read that page even?
>Unit price is also a valuation method for buyers who purchase in bulk. Buyer seeks to purchase 10000 widgets. Seller One offers 1000 widgets packaged together for $5000. Seller Two offers 5000 widgets packaged together for $25000. Seller Three offers 500 widgets packaged together for $2000. All three sellers can offer a total of 10000 widgets to Buyer. Seller One offers widgets at a unit price of $5. Seller Two offers widgets at a unit price of $5. Seller Three offers widgets at a unit price of $4. Buyer uses unit price to value the packages offered by each of the three sellers and finds that Seller Three offers widgets at the best value, the best price.
In this situation the sellers put options out there and it's up to the buyer to determine which one provides the best price, nowhere does it say sellers are obligated to sell their widgets at a lower price simply because more widgets exist, if you don't like the price of a reseller then look harder you stupid fag.

>Average Price per Unit ($) = Revenue ($) / Units Sold
Using this formula, if one copy of Earthbound sells for 500 dollars and the seller only had one copy, that means that's the average price per unit (since the seller only had the one copy)

Funny how economics work huh? Video games aren't commodities that can be bought in bulk, they're intangibles who's value is largely derived from popular opinion.

>>2028623
The funny part is that I actually pointed out what fallacies you have in your 'rebuttal' and the fact that you've addressed nothing I said.

>>2028270
But the PSX does make the Saturn redundant.

>>2028660
>>2028595

Would you both please stop? One of you is right, one of you is wrong, but you're both brats, so neither of you are going to "win."

>>2028660
>Using this formula, if one copy of Earthbound sells for 500 dollars and the seller only had one copy, that means that's the average price per unit (since the seller only had the one copy)
Again folks. There people out there like this that post on /vr/. They legitimately think Earthbound is a rare game. Even to us as an example of one to justify its rarity.

Be informed.

>>2028647
Do you mean first party Atari games weren't good, or that only Coleco/Intellivision games were good? Because Atari itself made some great games for the 2600, IMO. Yars' Revenge stands the test of time in terms of game design.

>>2028654
>AAA maker
go back to your mainstreem gaming website plz

>>2028654
how exactly do you expect a company to survive if they can't make money?

>>2028672
>Again folks. There people out there like this that post on /vr/. They legitimately think Earthbound is a rare game. Even to us as an example of one to justify its rarity.
Are you literally this stupid to take a theoretical situation as my opinion? Seriously consider killing yourself, I'm not even kidding. I wasted this time explaining a very simple economic concept to you and this is what I get for a rebuttal.

>>2028678
oh you so underground, tell us about how retro games are indie and stuff (without sounding like a complete retard)

go:

>>2028674
I'm only going on my experience playing a handful of 2600 games. In all fairness, I did say "I've never played a game." I acknowledge some quality stuff was probably made, but since I can't personally attest to it, I marked it on the underage bingo even though I'm probably one of the oldest ITT

>>2028685
You're trying to create a theory to use as an absolute sample of one in a dynamic market. Please fuck off. Please.

>>2028683
I just it was sad that they had to resort to whoring out, they could be trying to make big things.

>>2028692
Would you like some recommendations?

>>2028270
What's the point of this thread?

>>2028660
I have a bottle of concentrated lemmon juice here, it is the only bottle if the product I have, according to you that means that if I want to sell it for $500 on the internet then it is worth that much because it's the only bottle of lemon juice I have.

>>2028702
Feel free, but I have enough in my backlog as it is.

>>2028683
I don't know, how are they to survive when they're needlessly spending millions on "cinematic experiences" that forget to put the game part into them and can't compete with the western "Hollywood" video game industry? Japanese companies really should be focusing on smaller games and servicing the niche that made them rich in the first place instead of going after AAA+ dollar that isn't there because it's all being spent on FIFA, Madden and COD.

>>2028270
You got me OP. I don't know a thing about the tg16.

shit thread anyway

>>2028707
Average price =/= worth
I think you're misunderstanding what he's saying.
This is a pretty stupid argument either way.
>>2028708
I'll just give you three:
>Pole Position (if you've played it, since it's pretty well known, then Spider Fighter)
>Yars' Revenge
>Warlords (this is best with human opponents)
The good part is it'll probably take you 5 minutes to try them all out.

>>2028702
not that person, but I've played a fair share of 2600 games, both when I was a kid and it was the only console we had, and when I was older, and I will say, even though the games were great for the time, most of them have aged horrible and aren't as much fun to play now.

>>2028714
considering the fact that he has already said he has played quite a bit of the games, and is probably in his 30s, I can not imagine that he hasn't played any of the games you have mentioned of they were not in his list already because, also the 2600 verson of pole position won't sway anyone unless they have nostalgia over it, the cars are difficult to manuver, the sounds are grating, and the game is extremely slow for a racing game of any era.

I"m 18
Some games are too damn archaic for me
Are CGR and LGR considered celebrities? What is considered celebrities

>>2028707
If somebody buys it for 500$ then yes, it was worth that much.

>>2028270
Almost 40 OP.

Go suck on a PSONE

>>2028729
LGR is popular amongst a certian sector for retrogamers... and thats about it... I really don't see why /vr/ would have anything against him though, he isn't like purely out to get hits and his reviews are fair and entertaining and he seems like a likeable guy, I'd have a few beers and play Duke Nukem against him.

this is bait right?

I think the Sega CD one should be edited. I love it and it does have good games but the add on was pretty much a failure because Sega focused almost entirely on those shitty FMV games when marketing it that people hated.

>>2028435
>I hate resellers for hoarding games and jacking up prices to ridiculous amounts

There is literally no proof of this being a thing, and no buying two or three copies because it's in demand is not the same as hoarding it to cause artificial rarity.

>>2028743
Yeah, most retro focused youtube "celebs" seem pretty ok. Focused on the hobby and not just playing whatever they're told to play while making silly faces and yelling with themselves in the foreground. Pic related, the OG youtube celeb before before there was youtube.

>list a bunch of traits
>these are /v/ behaviors

Excellent retro games thread OP.

>>2028473
git gud scrub u just mad u can't see 16 bit titties.

>>2028765
that was pretty much what I was saying about you though...

>>2028759
at least know something about who is being talking about before making idiotic sarcastic comments, I have never once seen LGR make silly faces or yell with himself.

>>2028771
Try reading my comment again. There's no sarcasm or implying that LGR is a silly faced yeller like PewdyPie.

>>2028768
git gud fag u can't talk till u see dem titties. fukin scrubs mad they suck at gals panic ha!

I was just joking anon. I doubt anyone would actually brag over being good at Gal's Panic.

>>2028729
>18
>Mad over resellers

You were like 6 when Halo came out and even basically admitted to not owning an N64. The fuck would you even be mad about wanting to buy that's too high?

>>2028780
Would it be any different if he were 30?
I know a 30 year old that didn't grow up with access to PC games or consoles and has just recently started to "catch up", so he'd be in the same boat as that 18 year old individual you're needlessly berating.

>>2028707

You seem to think asking price and selling price are the same thing. You can ask for however much you want, but it's only worth what you can sell it for.

>>2028270
half of these would more likely be proof that some one is actually from the nes/gensis era rather than the opposite... especially the sega vs nintendo stuff, the resellers opinion, and the claiming that PSX is not a legitimate referance to the playstation.

>>2028787
That's why he put that shit there. This board eats up bait like an American at a free burger convention. Just look at all those retron threads that still get serious replies.

>>2028784
yet the person that I was responding to said that the game is worth that much because that is what they are asking for it.
> if one copy of Earthbound sells for 500 dollars and the seller only had one copy, that means that's the average price per unit (since the seller only had the one copy)

>>2028270
I'm only in my early twenties and I didn't get any of them. Hell, I'm not even from /v/, I'm from /m/ and /tg/. This feels weird.

>>2028797
>if one copy of Earthbound sells for 500 dollars
>sells

>>2028797

No, they said that's the average price per unit.

>>2028805
>>2028804
god, you people are either complete morons or are resellers yourself.

>>2028802
>I'm from /m/ and /tg/.
you might as well be from /v/ in that case...

>>2028693
>I like to buy retro games and leave them on the shelf
I am too guilty of this

>>2028812
>I'm proven wrong so you're morons.
I expect this level of shitposting on /v/, not here.

>>2028813
The fuck is wrong with /m/? I can understand the /v/ hate but Jesus some of you guys really have your head really far up your own ass.

>>2028813
Not him, but no. Both /m/ and /tg/ are closer to /vr/ in quality than /v/. Hell, /v/ could merge with /b/ at this point and no one would notice.

>>2028818
>proven wrong by heresay and generically insulting comments
oh, ok

>>2028812

Are you that same drunk asshole who supposedly only posts while drunk that's been shitposting all over /vr/?

Could you either fuck off or get alcohol poising already?

>>2028817
>Why won't /vr/ fall for my bait

You gotta have some really shitty bait for this place not to fall for it. Hell just mentioning Brutal Doom in the Doom General can cause a shitstorm.

>>2028819
Well a lot of people criticize /m/ with being really elitist with their musical tastes but besides that I dunno

oh what /m/ is mecha

people still go there?

>>2028821

>quotations are hearsay and generically insulting

Alright, you trolled me

>>2028828
/mu/ should be renamed /pitchfork/.

>>2028829
what is "hur hur ur dumb for not agreeing with me" a quotation from exactly?

>>2028828
/m/ is the only place to actually talk about anime. /a/ and /jp/ are too busy circlejerking about their tepid moeshit garbage to actually discuss anything but their lust for underage girls.

>>2028828

I stopped going on /m/ because tokusatsu fans are literally the only thing worse than /pol/ and /u/ shitposters.

>>2028832

Except nobody said that

>>2028831
>>2028828
because misconceptions by people that don't even go to the board are always correct.
by the way, according to other boards /vr/ is a board that's only for old people that want to circlejerk over nostalgia

I'm not underage by any means, but I decided to give it a shot anyways.

I sort of expected to do worse.

I don't go to /v/ at all anymore, but I'd lie if I said I hadn't come from there when /vr/ first became a board.

The only youtuber whose opinion I care about is Mark Bussler, but that counts.

>>2028831
/pitchfork/-core would be very interesting
>>2028834
it took me too long to realize this. I had too much faith in /a/ when I first discovered 4chan.

>>2028839
>by the way, according to other boards /vr/ is a board that's only for old people that want to circlejerk over nostalgia

>>2028839
>that's only for old people that want to circlejerk over nostalgia

That just sounds like /v/. According to /v/ any thread that isn't just outright calling the game shit means it must be a circlejerk.

>>2028839
/pitchfork/ joker here.
I've been an on and off /mu/ regular since the board was founded, and you're lucky to find one to two threads at any given time that aren't just the same old circlejerk.
>according to other boards /vr/ is a board that's only for old people that want to circlejerk over nostalgia
Not that far from the truth, and we're fine with it.

>>2028849
nice job completely avioding my point

>>2028851
fuck off, you are probably some CLT worshiping asshole

here's mine with comments

>>2028853
I wasn't trying to avoid any points. I've never seen any boards mention /vr/ aside from /v/ and pretty much anything that isn't shitting on the game is considered a circlejerk to them.

>>2028854
>obvious lack of quality in Genesis games

Thems fightin words.

>>2028854
>5.
>complaining about bad 3D graphics on an n64
lmao
also 1v1 me in Goldeneye and watch me rek you mate

>>2028853
Wrong, and I don't like NMH either.
Also, Amnesiac > Kid A and Wish You Were Here > Animals.

>>2028860
Compare: any mortal kombat game on genesis to any mortal kombat game on SNES.

the SNES had quality AT LEAST as good as the Genesis, which means, in general, that the SNES was better overall.

>>2028862
the thing was about old graphics, so yeah.
my complaint is legitimate.
im not going to 1v1 anyone in a FPS where the characters' hands look like gloves and i have to use an n64 controller.

>>2028854
>they were toys for kids
>implying
my mom owned all the gaming consoles in my house and you had to get permission from her before playing them unless she wasn't around. Also she played them more than anyone else did. Also this was the NES era.

>>2028854
>5
It's just as playable now as it was then. Just because other games have improved on the controls doesn't make the original any worse.
But personally I thought goldeneye played like shit when it was new, and I still hate playing it.

>>2028869
so what? it doesn't change the facts that video games were originally marketed towards kids and made for kids.
candy is marketed for kids too but adults eat it all the time.

>>2028869
Your mom played with toys for kids, congrats

>>2028871
it makes the original worse in comparison.
let's say you spend your entire life eating beef tripe.

first intestine, stomach, tongue, feet... then slowly moving onto blade, chuck, rump roast... and finally moving onto t-bone steak, filet mignon.

now, all you've had the last year is filet mignon. tell me tripe isn't any worse in comparison.

>>2028872
this comment proves that you never actually grew up in that era

>>2028270

I did good I guess. Better than expected.

>>2028880
Yo dawg.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sVDXxGsEzxI

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ehPrT2YkHKk

>>2028879
it actually doesn't prove anything. i was born in 1989 which makes me older than most of the people on 4chan. my first system was a NES. don't be a presumptuous cock. especially when you're wrong.

>>2028872
actually they were pretty much marketed to both adults and kids, there really wasn't any seperation between one or the other yet.

>>2028270
Well I like filters, but don't need them. They help since I don't have space for a CRT and the original hardware was designed around the adjusted output, but stuff is fine without them.

So I guess nothing checked.....fuck I'm old.

>>2028887
actually they weren't but thanks for playing.

>>2028886
>saying that NES era games were only marketed to kids and adults weren't supposed to like them
>I'm the one that is wrong

>>2028860
This is what a lot of SNES kids believe while never having spent any real time with a Genesis. And vice versa, plenty of Sega fanboys that dismiss the SNES without knowing anything about it. Again, if you lack knowledge on either system, don't make claims that were already old and retarded in the 90s: Fire up that emulator and binge on the system that you didn't own/have access to.

>>2028868
Plenty of multiplats were better on the SNES, plenty were better on the Genesis, and often one game did some aspects better on Sega's side while the same game did something else better on Nintendo's side.
The original Mortal Kombat on the Genesis for example is considered by most a better port. And compare games like Beavis and Butthead, Earthworm Jim 2 or Robocop verus The Terminator. Sega wins that round. But then you have other games like Mortal Kombat 2, Lion King or Sunset Riders, SNES wins. Point is, console war bickering was and is stupid, both systems had a lot to offer and playing favorites is just ignorant.

>>2028891
what?

>only retro adventure games by lucasfarts are worth playing

Ugh I hate sierra haters, they never actually sat down and played one of the cozy VGA adventure games they just spout off drivel from youtube.

I do own a few game-related t-shirts, and have taken some advice from various YouTube celebrities.

Not sure if the barrel counts, because I never played Sonic 3 until after I heard about getting past the barrel (because I was a poorfag that never had a Genesis).

>video games were never mainstream until the recent era

Isn't this kinda true though. It's been a subculture since the 80s but casuals didn't start really liking video games until graffix and Ocarina/FF7.

>>2028895
but the snes version of Bevis and Butthead was better gameplay wise...

>obviously from /v/
As opposed to what? Where exactly do you think people came from when this board was created?

>>2028885
Better to be able to hear this cacophony than be deaf I guess

>>2028905
>sierra haters
please produce proof this is actually a thing...

>>2028907
Video Games have been mainstream since the NES. ADULTS playing video games is not the same thing.

>>2028908
It has its merits, but as an overall experience the Genesis version blows it out of the water.

>>2028905
But Sierra point and click games are garbage

However there are lots of great point and click adventure games by many companies other than Lucas Arts

>>2028912
This board is full of people who love to talk about how much better this place is than /v/ which while true can get really fucking obnoxious sometimes. Anyway that obviously from /v/ bit is about someone just trying to shitpost or acting like a retard.

>>2028891
you realize the the disign of the NES it's self, along with games like Zelda and Metroid were meant to appeal to more mature audiences right? Nintendo has been all about the idea that anyone should be able to enjoy video games from the begnining.

>>2028920
I'm no Sierra point and click fan, I find much of their sizable output to be overly obtuse and ill thought out. But in between the rough, there are some of the best adventure games ever made.

I think the majority of 2600 games are shit, so that's why I'd not recommend playing them.

Adventure and River Raid are pretty rad though.

>>2028270

I couldn't check a single one of these. Not even the free space I came here from /pol/

What do I win?

>>2028923
>inb4 some one points out that they were a card and board game manufacturer in the begining
I obviously mean from the begining of when they joined the video game industry, just to cover that before anyone makes that stupid comment

>>2028935
I find much of the games from that era to be like early cinema, something worth exploring for historical purposes but not something you'd necessarily spend much time on beyond that.

how'd I do

>>2028935
I personally think Adventure is over rated and Indiana Jones and the Temple of Doom did it better.

>>2028914
meet >>2028920

>>2028934
Mah nigga. I think Gabriel Knight: Sins of the Fathers is THE best adventure game ever made. Thing is, I often forget it was even made by Sierra.

When people talk about Sierra adventure games I almost always think of the King's Quest series and other trainwrecks such as Freddy Pharkas.

>>2028952
>Indiana Jones and the Temple of Doom
I meant lost ark, oops.

I'm 19, what do I win besides the golden hipster award?

>>2028952
Haunted House is really well thought out considering the hardware and deserves a better remake than the shit it got.

>>2028964

You can win the 'Shove it up your own ass' award.

>>2028957
I mean people that aren't just trolls from here

>>2028971
Well only if you watch~

>>2028971
Oh gosh, what an honor.

>>2028967
I kind of consider Haunted House a different sort of game than adventure or raiders of the lost ark though

>>2028949
Not good. Trying too hard.

>>2028971
sounds hawt

Am I alright?

>>2028960
>kings quest
>trainwreck
what?
also why the hell would you think of comanies most forgotten game (and with good reason) before most other things?

>>2028993
le trying too hard

>>2028993
I agree with both of those points.

>>2028993
>not playing Burning Rangers
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ybgmr72l42A

Yes, I just pity you is all.

>>2028976
>>2028967
I could say the same for Cloudy Mountain. It has far more in common with Silent Hill than and RPG or a game like Adventure.

>>2029038
I don't understand your point...

>Asserts that only retro adventure games by LucasArts are worth playing
God damn this shit makes me angry. I fucking love Space Quest.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m4-e6T4sqXc

>>2029043
Saying it's another great second gen game.

>>2028270
>"videogames were NEVER mainstream until the recent era"

In a way they weren't. The globalization that came with the spread of the internet made games' diversity much narrower and limited, because there is much more knowledge on the market and most games are designed to cater to the mainstream taste. Up to the early 6th gen games were much more diverse because there wasn't this collective group of people the internet provides today. So yes in a way games today are more mainstream.

>>2028270
>Claims that PSX isn't legitimite reference to Playstation
Because it isn't, that would be referencing to PS2 these days.

One does not dwell in past and fixes themselves, even sony tried to get this through people's skulls with the "PSone" thing. BUT THE FUCKING ONE THERE.

Aside anything else, nope.

>>2028312
Why would you call the non-japanese model Super Famicon ?

Burgertime on ColecoVision actually has pretty good graphics

>>2028709
B-BUT MUH MOVIE CUTSCENES
MUH SCRIPTED GAME WITH PEOPLE IN THE GAME PLAYING THE GAME FOR ME

>>2028442
>PSX actually didn't come commonplace until the PS2 came out and it was meant to cover all the playstation systems.

During development the original system was known as Playstation X but for some reason Sony dropped the X before the system was released. However gaming journalists at the time (gaming magazines in particular) kept using the acronym PSX and most gamers also kept using it on internets all the way up to the time Playstation 2 and PSOne, the new resigned version of the original Playstation was released. At this point the acronyms and their meaning were crystal clear to everyone PSX meant the original bigger version of the original Playstation and the new smaller redesign of it was referred as PS1.

tl;dr: PSX was definitely used before PS2 came out and obviously no fucking one used PS1 before that.

2 for me. Am I underage now?

>>2029357
no one fucking called it the psx after it came out either except for retarded game journalists, fuck off.

>>2029376
http://www.ign.com/articles/1998/08/28/history-of-the-playstation
http://web.archive.org/web/19980121115052/http://www.gamepro.com/whatsnew.html
http://web.archive.org/web/19981206015609/http://www.gameinformer.com/
http://web.archive.org/web/19990508132652/http://psxextreme.com/
Also, see Google Groups; do a web search of 'site:thegia.psy-q.ch/ psx'; and read back issues of magazines like those whose archived sites are linked above.

tl;dr: Go fuck yourself, kid.

>>2029386
>except for retarded game journalists
also I'm 34

>>2029376
It was the psx - deal with reality.