/vr/ - Retro Games

>>2021826
Gimme some screens or something. Never heard of it.

>>2021829
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YajRAVzJDl4

Now let's listen to the album: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vkH3VxrHY80&list=PLA8266E78385B85D2

Great game in the style of Golvellius and Knight Lore (mostly linear progression/geography + isometric action-platforming). Quite a challenge later on, but nothing you can't handle with planning and maximum EkeEkes to revive you upon expiring. Yoshitaka Tamaki, Kenji Orimo, Shinya Nagasaki, and Motoaki Takenouchi...this collaboration will never happen again.

It's good. Not a fun as equinox IMO

>>2021826
Soon will never come.

www.youtube.com/watch?v=y2igJr2ZsNE

Got this game complete in a lot a while ago and have yet to play more than 10 min, looked like a zelda clone tbh.

Landstalker was my favourite game too as a child. I still hear the catchy soundtrack in my ears; the music won't leave my head.

The part I enjoyed most was the dungeon beneath Mercator, where various riddles had to be solved. Not to forget the unique design of the towns and their people, the minigames (athur's casino and greenpiece) and the cutscene in the castle that unfortunately had been cut out in the PAL version.

There was only little I disliked about the came, appart from some redudant stuff like the blue ribbon, the fairy town and Mir. When this faggot duke appeared the first time in the game, the developers unintentionally revealed him to be the villain by making him draw his sword, when he 'jumped' the stairs in the castle ( which he does when you fight him later).

Such a pity there has never been an official sequel or a similar games, appart from ladystalker, time stalker and dark saviour, which might be good, but do not seem to be the same glorious, nostalgic feeling I have, when I replay Landstalker.

WOAGH
WOAGH
WOAGH
HAARGH

What kind of name for a jRPG protag is Nigel anyway?

>>2023056
Still better than Jeff.

>>2023072
My name is Jeff, you asshole!

>>2023074
Is that you, Jeff?

>>2023052

Such a fucking silly hit sound

Was the Dreamcast sequel Time Stalkers any good?

>>2023124
Not...really.

The only good thing about about Time Stalkers is the cameos who join your party.
There's Pyra from Shining in the Darkness, Yogurt from Shining Force, Nigel from Landstalker and other characters I'm not that familiar with.
If you value character interaction and development over gameplay, then I guess it can fun.

You're better of playing Dark Savior, Lady Stalker or even Alundra (not part of the series), really.

>>2023132
Was Lady Stalker ever fan translated? As far as I recall it was never localized.

>>2022005
Its better than Equinox.
Get out.

>>2023132
The little winged fairy/demon is Friday from Landstalker, and the angry girl wearing pink is Lady from LadyStalker. Cocks and Yoshio (also from LS) are present as secret characters.
The beastman Rao might be from Mystaria, not sure.

>>2023153
Im pretty sure it has yet to be fully translated. I think at the most its around 50% done.

Friday will always be my Waifu.

I seem to remember it being the first game I managed to clock 24 hours on.

>>2023164
>Cocks

Ah.

>>2022253
It is a Zelda clone.

>>2021826
The intro blew my tiny brain. It made me hyped to go on an epic adventure.

That final dungeon in Landstalker was fucking brutal and gigantic.

I fucking loved it

>>2023642
It was proper hard, without being unfair.

I seem to remember towards the end, you opened up a teleporter back to town, so you could come and go as you pleased, restocking on 11 Golds Eke Eke fresh from the market.

>>2023717
nope I'm 90% sure entering the final dungeon was a point of no return

>>2023721
>entering the final dungeon was a point of no return

this is not true and you know it. why do you go on the internet and tell lies? you lying piece of shit. you and your fucking point of no return....

he >>2023717
whom you responded has probably been infected with aids or commited suicide because of your statement. i hope you feel better now!

See you in hell along with racims, pedophilia and other terrible things.

>>2023721
forgot pic in the post above

>>2022253
>>2023617
Are you people this retarded? just because he is an elf it's a Zelda clone? they play very differently.

I need to replay this.

I never did get the top score on that fucking boulder throwing minigame, or beat the old martial arts guy.

Has anyone remade the map in Minecraft yet?

Friendly reminder that if you like Landstalker and haven't played Dark Savior, you have no business coming back here until you do.

>>2022253
You're mum is a Zelda clone and I still beat her.

>>2023153
Aeon Genesis are sitting on it, so you can expect a translation fucking never,

Garian was here.

Nigel is a loser.

>>2026183
>that creepy music
>that giant hand that grabs you if you fall in the pit
>them skulls and skellington shapes in the walls and floor
>that undead child you have to fight

this part really spooked me

>>2027270
cute pixie girl > weird blue bird

>>2027605
Agreed

How do you guys pronounce EkeEke?

>>2027680
eek eek

>>2027680
Ekky Ekky

>>2027637
say that to my face not online and see what happens

>>2027696
>>2027696
U wot m8?

>>2027704
ill smack u in ur gaber m8

>>2027713
I'll be back, you watch it.

Friendly reminder that if you fight Carbon Garian with a captured monster instead of using Garian you're the ultimate scrub

sorry but landstalker controls are atrocious

some of those jumps you have to make are just ridiculous

>inb4 git gud

>>2028082
Oh it's true. The isometric view makes certain jumps hard as fuck, and others look a lot harder than they are.

>>2027696
that's a very serious portrait for a very comical sidekick.

>>2022253
A lot better puzzles than Zelda, honestly. The amount of tricky jumps and lateral thinking you have to do, combined with quick reflexes, make the game really stand out from other zelda clones.

Alundra is similar in this regard. Both games are classics.

Dark Savior is ok, and I like the world and atmosphere, but the game is but ugly, feels like it drops to 8fps if there are more than 4 polygons on screen, and the platforming not nearly as satisfying. And the combat was pretty tacked-on.

Again, I sorta liked the game, but I lost motivation near the end of Scenario 2 (silver castle) because the slow platforming sections along with the tedium just got to me.

>>2028154
>very comical sidekick
but that's not true. jack is a smartass asshole. sure there are some instances of banter but for the most part he is just a jerk in charge of expositioning the plot

>>2028154
>but I lost motivation near the end of Scenario 2 (silver castle) because the slow platforming sections along with the tedium just got to me.
that's the most challenging part of the game(unless you count the minecart section) but it's still nothing compared to the obnoxious landstalker platforming wich is straight up infuriating

and you are kind of missing out if you didnt at least finished parallel 2 for the Super Kay vs Giant Drizzit final battle

let's settle this:

Who looks better?

>>2028251
Alundra :^)

>>2027685
>>2027693
My brother and I always said 'eeka eeka'

>>2028251
Nigel looks more.. magical. Garian looks like a Dudebro.

>>2028210
Ha ha man, those fucking ugly ass polygons. Dark Savior might be one of the ugliest attempts at 3D outside of Sky Target. Drizzit has stone pillars for legs, for goodness' sake.

>>2028194
Maybe I'm misremembering. I remember chuckling at this lines because he is an asshole. Garian is pretty dry himself.

>>2028251
Sorry Garian, but Nigel is more iconic and cooler. His sprite doesn't get all warped with bad scaling, too!

>>2028210
Also I think the Landstalker platforming, while devious and tricky, is not -quite- as bullshit as people make it out to be. You start to get a feel for it after a while.

I think it's really that one place at the beginning that has all those platforms up a ledge, which confuse and anger people. Most of the game doesn't pull that.

>>2028304
one is an elf going on adventures all over tha land, the other is a mercenary stuck on a prison island

>>2028251
fairer comparison here

>>2028342
Now Garian has a built in Breast pump.

>>2028342
Friday is looking at Nigel rather lustily there.

>>2028402
yeah wtf is that supposed to be

>>2028487
>implying you aren't

>>2028342
it looks like his Japanese name is "Jack"

where the fuck did Garian come from

>>2028584
Jack is the bird (which is also his english name)

Garian is Ryu in japanese. No clue why they went with Garian

>>2028598
Ryu Yu, no less. Garian sounds better, anyway.

>>2028598
Ryu Ya, no less. Garian sounds better, anyway.

>>2028598
Is Ryu that common a name in Japan? I feel like half of the jap vidya heroes are called Ryu.

street fighter, ninja gaiden, shenmue, etc

>>2028616
It means dragon so it fits heroe characters i guess

>>2028613
"Ryuu-Yaa"?

which is... strange even in Japanese

>>2028620
This game is bonkers.

The plot revolves around getting drunk, space bugs and alternate dimensions

>>2028619
Oddly enough, the official kanji for Ryu's name is 隆, which is "prosperity." They normally write his name in katakana (リュウ) nowadays, though.

I dont care what you people say Bilan is mai waifu

>>2028664
wth is that? mothman? i really have to play this game

>>2028664
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RRuqq3RDkxE&list=UUzuaExJH2ZarOls8hDB7ZYQ

7:20

>>2028613
>>2028598
>>2028584
When you play the minigame in seabandits love love mini racing it says it's programmed by garian. maybe that's where they got it from

>>2028342
Maybe it's a good thing they never show us Garian's full concept art.

>>2028643
It's funny how the game throws out so many ass-pull coincidences as major plot events.

AND DID YOU KNOW....

THAT YOUR SISTER WAS HERE ALL ALONG?

THAT YOUR BROTHER'S GIRLFRIEND SHOWED UP AND I KIDNAPPED HER?

THAT THIS CRIMINAL WAS IMPERSONATING YOUR BROTHER?

THAT HE WAS HER FATHER ALL ALONG?

Life is pretty crazy on thug-nigga island.

>>2028487
It's pretty much canon that she wants the elf D. I hope for her sake he's really small.

>>2023903
Only people who didn't play the game say it's a zelda clone.

>>2022848
>ladystalker, time stalker and dark saviour
You forgot Alundra

>>2022848
>ladystalker
I would wish they would just finish the translation already, news that it was near completion back in 2011 and then... nothing... also I personally think that Ladystalker looks a lot better than Landstalker. Though us non-moonruners won't know until we can play it in english.

>>2029396
what? Alundra has nothing to do with Ladystalker...

>>2029402
or landstalker, oops

>>2029151
Surely she could do some magic shit.

>>2029074
It is implied that the whole game is just a dream of Garian after being carbon frozen

>>2029404
Actually it does, mainly because of Japan's magical industry magic where they trade development staff like baseball cards.

I'd say that Alundra is closer to Landstalker than Dark Savior even though the latter is seen as its sprititual sequel

>>2023056
His jap name is Ryle

>>2029074
>THAT THIS CRIMINAL WAS IMPERSONATING YOUR BROTHER?
you wot m8? when did this happen

>>2029680
I'd say so. It's also a much more polished game.

>>2029561
I thought that was just one story scenario.

Then again, the plot of the game sort of seems to spin into nowhere towards the end of nearly all of its parallels.

It would also be a pretty bullshit way to frame the game since it is so inconsequential in terms of the larger game's plot. I mean yeah, there is that one moment you fight the zombie kid in the tunnel, but I don't think that's the single driving event around the entire game. It's like a rough version of Bioshock Infinite. Along with all the problems that exist in Infinite's storyline. Though better written than Infinite!

>>2030387
possessing, using, siphoning life out of, whatever

The amount of sheer coincidences that happen on Prison Island is enough to make one's head spin.

>>2030435
garian talks about dreams a lot throughout the whole game but if you pay attention to one part of the dialogue it says something like: "it is said that whoever gets carbon frozen will forever endure endless nightmares. it's a fate worse than death"

now if you think about how the game is structured it's just and endless loop. everytime after the credits roll you "wake up" from a nightmare in the ship and the game rolls all over again.

also, after lance dying on the island(he was part of the bounty hunter team, garian killed him by accident, he "coincidentally" got revived by the island mad scientist) garian goes on a rant saying something like "what's wrong with this island? why do all these horrors happen here?" sugesting that there might be more to it than mere coincidence

>>2030475
Wow I like this theory!

It always bugged me how there was never an ultimate resolution and definitive ending but seeing it that way it does kinda make sense.

>Landstalker thread
>always goes on Dark Savior/Alundra tangents

The Gumi people in Landstalker are a blatant rippoff of ewoks and the carbon freeze in Dark Savior is what happened to Han Solo.

>>2028306
>Ha ha man, those fucking ugly ass polygons. Dark Savior might be one of the ugliest attempts at 3D outside of Sky Target. Drizzit has stone pillars for legs, for goodness' sake.

You clearly haven't played Ronde.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6yT6avnWhio

>>2030737
OT Green Maze can go eat Gumi cock.

Also: I wish combat in the game was more than an afterthought. This post sums it up well: >>2023052

>>2030968
that's pretty putrid.

>>2030475
I'm not saying there isn't proof, but it would bum me out that the entire game revolves around a stupid forced-choice by an unimportant NPC at the very beginning of the game. Another point to Landstalker being the better game!

>nigel's antagonist is a bitchy girl
>nigel travels all over the world for treasure hunting and has solved over 9000 mysteries
>nigel fights orks, cyclops and dragons that are way bigger than him
>but he cannot defend himself against a woman and lost the stone tablet to her.
>fucking feminism

>>2031059
the old men in that game look like they have muzzles

>>2031059
it's probably because he wants to fuck Kayla. You know those dashing rogue types - always soft around women.

Nigel seems to like dominating women - Kayla's whip, Friday beating him up...

>>2031093
someone post that censored bath scene that didnt make it to US version of the game

Dark Savior also had a ton of censored shit

>>2031101
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sD8xKErGhyA

fucking Friday is a cockblocking bitch

>>2031114
She wants the Elf D to herself.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=llyiQ4I-mcQ

Boom boom boom boom
I want you in my room

>trying to diss Dark Savior and claiming to be a Landstalker fan

Just fucking kill yourself. Both Dark Savior and Landstalker are 10/10 games.

>>2032391
I'll go ahead and dare to say it:

Dark Savior > Alundra > Landstalker

:^)

>>2032391
>>2028342
what's up with that doll on his waist?

Guise, why can't we just be friends?

>>2022253
Closer to Knight Lore in some ways.

>>2028154
I first noticed the frame rate drops with the ice chunks you knock off in the prologue. Weird how the game usually looks great, with thickly-outlined textures and lots of color...shame about the twitching model edges.

>>2028251
>>2028342
Garian has the better sprite, Lyle has superior design.

Alundra, Dark Savior, and Land/Lady/TimeStalker are interconnected in my book. Some part of Climax worked on each game, good enough for me. I wonder how plausible the trapped-in-carbon-freezing-with-nightmares theory is.

>>2028251
Garian has a better sprite/design IMO. Also, no comically huge feet. A plus or minus depending on your tastes.

Did you fags knew that in Dark Savior, Evilsizer (the dude with a faceless white mask and an axe) has the hockey mask of Jason from Friday the 13th in the japanese version? They blanked it in the international version to avoid copyright issues.

I do prefer garian but Friday is far superior to the bird

>>2032475
Makes sense. I always figured that enemy was a parody of that movie. I loved using him against enemies. Fighting in a trash can is top.

>>2032483
>I always figured that enemy was a parody of that movie
how? I dont get what the axe or the wheelchair-thingy is a reference to

>>2032484
The fucking mask and the axe. It's pretty obvious.

fuck you guys it's time for Dark Savior to get away from Landstalker's shadow

>>2032552

>>2032552

>>2032552

>>2032391
Dark Savior is a 6 or 7/10, but now that there's its own thread I won't talk about it anymore here.

>>2032467
Come on man, Nigel's huge feet are cool. The guy is ready for adventure.

OT:
If there's one thing I give Landstalker credit for, it's just how good the puzzles are. Surprisingly tough for a 16bit game. Like the one puzzle (in the lake shrine?) where you have to throw a block onto a switch and in the split second the door opens, move through. That type of twitch-reflex never happens in Zelda games. It's very refreshing.

Light Crusader is similar, but a rougher game (still fun but not as good).

What DID happen to the PSP remake?

English wasn't my first language at the time of playing this and couldn't understand what fireproof meant, I was stuck here so long trying to find those boots i needed.

>>2034376
Aren't there any dictionaries in your language?

>>2034669
They were forbidden when the communists got to power and started their "kids of tomorrow" program.

>>2034946
Creepy.

At least 'kids of tommorow' is yesterday's kids of today - and that is you. Yesterday, today was tomorrow and tomorrow, today will be yesterday.

Anyway, at that time, communism must have begun to erode. How and why did they implement measures to keep people from learning English (and you learnt it anyway? You don't live in North Korea, do you?

>>2035405
Sounds more like a Eastern Europe thing. One person in my neighborhood remembers movies being preceded by a mandatory announcement by the generalissimo whatever talking about communism for 20 or so minutes.

Selling my copy of Landstalker to buy FF9 is one of life bigger regrets.

>>2035795
>generalissimo
Fascism has nothing to do with communism.

>"Thumpa-thumpa, yo! Sacrificial, beneficial, nothing here is artificial! Undefiled, unbeguiled, please accept this virgin child! Thumpa-thumpa yo!"

I was pretty obsessed with this game as a kid, was amazed when the bathtub scene was discovered a few years back.

Isn't this on Steam now?

>>2040497
Yup. Also playable through VC.

>>2040497
It's probably hard to play with just a keyboard. The game's isometric controls necessitate you using diagonal controls instead of cardinal directions.

It is tricky to get used to on a genesis controller. I'd imagine that it'd be downright awkward without something similar.

http://strawpoll.me/2909109

vote :)

>>2021826
FUCK YOU GREENMAZE

FUCK YOU AND YOUR DWARVES

>>2042968
>It is tricky to get used to on a genesis controller.
It's really not, Diagonals are so easy to press on the MD controller that it should be second nature to press down-left to walk down-left by the time you're through the second room.
Now, if we were talking about a Playstation D-pad things may be different, but nobody should have trouble with Landstalker controls on a Mega Drive or Saturn-like D-pad.

>>2043558
It's our sunstone, piss off Elf.

Good game, but fuck isometric view, fuck those retarded perspective-less jumps, and fuck those controls.

I wouldn't have had a problem with the controls if they simply made it so you press diagonals to move in the corresponding direction. But instead, they have this weird system where up/down move along the axis and left/right rotate you so that up/down now move along another axis. Fuck that, I mostly played through by bunnyhopping because for some reason I find it easier to change directions while doing it.

>>2044046
>if they simply made it so you press diagonals to move in the corresponding direction
But that's exactly how it is. Sure the four cardinal directions move you weirdly, but why would it even occur to you to use them when you can just move diagonally by pressing diagonally? I don't understand you.

>>2044046
I think if Nigel had a shadow, things would be a bit more manageable. Now, I don't think the jumps are all that bad once you start to see how the perspective works, but it would still be an improvement.

Still own my original copy from childhood with my save legit maxed out everything

And I still pray for a full translation of Lady Stalker some day.

>>2046120
>Lady Stalker
ewww

>>2046127
Sorry, but I wanna play the game in English, it looks fun like Landstalker

that skeleton priest who gives you free items in the tower.

>>2046164
Despite the mild censoring (which I think people blow out of proportion) I am happy that there are so many nice creepy touches in the game like the rasping skeleton priests.

I think of of my favorite things about Landstalker is Nigel's sword. it's such a simple but elegant design, it's very nice to look at

>Drug store or variety store?

I usually chose the variety store because of the fun stuff he sells, although everything in there is useless...

The drug store however has extremely useful stuff, but it's less fun.

>>2048872
The items in the variety store were much more fun in the Jap version.

I never did beat that old martial arts blokey, he always seeme to get in an extra hit.

>>2051427
Do you even get anything good for trying? Is it just a life stock or whatever?

>>2051578
>just a life stock
>implying there is anything more worth getting than a life stock

>>2051578
you get an item that makes it easier to charge your sword.

>>2051578
You get the 'pawn ticket' that changes your HP into money. It comes in handy when your out of gold and you have collected a lot of lifestock (and thus you have a lot of HP). Everything else is bull shit.

>just a life stock

Have you even played Landstalker?

>>2052783
No, you get that for doing the dog quest in the witch's hut outside of Mercator.


>>2054875
Life Stocks are important, yeah, but there are a lot of them so you can miss one if it means doing a lot of bullshit.

This is a little embarrassing (first time playing here), but I just discovered the warp tree thing outside of Mercator. This will make getting around easier. I just got the Axe Magic.


I'm 9 hours in. It doesn't feel like there is a super lot left to the game (fought Duke, got transported back to Mir's Tower, here I am).

>>2054905
The last dungeon will definitely make you not wish for any more (except for maybe a whole other game, in which case, Alundra is waiting)

>>2054931
yeah, I started Alundra over a year ago and sort of stopped it. I really liked it while i was playing but the puzzles were really hard ;-;

Now that I recently, finally beat Dark Savior (after owning it for over two years lol), I want to work my way through Landstalker and then Alundra. Ending on a high note (Timestalkers need not apply?)!

>>2028342
I'd rather go on a grand adventure with the guy on the left. Look at that confident smile.

What about Time Stalkers?

Is it a continuation of Landstalker.

I never got the sega saturn emulator running on my computer.

>>2057632
No.

Timestalkers/Climax Landers is a clusterfuck that doesn't apply to anything. It's kind of strange and possibly charming, everything about it is odd. It's some sort of RPG or roguelike almost, but not a very good one. In fact maybe it's outright bad and not fun.

but some people like it.

The developers of the game themselves seem to think it's a failure however.

Am I right in thinking if you emulate this it fucks up towards the end?

>>2058085
>it fucks up towards the end

What fucks what up?

I have never had troubles emulating landstalker. Neither the gameplay nor the emulation fucked up. What do you mean exactly?

>>2058247
Might have been my Rom, but there was a dwarf who would not move out from a ladder despite being given whatever it was I had to fetch, meaning I couldn't proceed. This was towards the end, after the Lake Shrine.

>>2058816
>>2058085
There is a beta ROM floating around which is bugged if you talk to the kid before talking to his father. Does not happen with good dumps.

Is there any way of finding this for a sensible price these days?