/vr/ - Retro Games

===NEWS===

[10-07] Smooth Doom updates: http://forum.zdoom.org/viewtopic.php?f=19&t=45550

[10-05] Zandronum 1.3 is released: http://zandronum.com/forum/showthread.php?tid=5318

[10-01] Demonsteele beta released: http://zandronum.com/forum/showthread.php?tid=5302 / http://forum.zdoom.org/viewtopic.php?f=19&t=46787

[09-30] Doom 2 is 20 years old! In celebration, some guy on Doomworld released a megawad: http://www.doomworld.com/vb/post/1309777 / http://www.kitana.org/arena/doom/doom20anniversary.html

[09-30] GMOTA just updated to version 0.9.5. New features include golden boners, imp replacements, and new blood. Check it out below.

[09-21] One of our own has just replaced a beta of his megawad. Give it a shot and let him know what you think! http://forum.zdoom.org/viewtopic.php?f=19&t=46676

Some dork's been working on a site for us to replace the old, shitty one! Will this one thrive or will it flop as well? http://万板.縮.jp/

Here's a music stream that only plays Doom music, 24/7; feel free to listen if you're interested http://liquiddoom.net/

===POPULAR MODS===

/vr/:
200 Minutes of /vr/: http://www.doomworld.com/idgames/?id=17781
Cyberpunk Shootdown: https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/48332341/cyberpunkshootdown-v4.2.pk3
Demonsteele: http://zandronum.com/forum/showthread.php?tid=5302
GMOTA: http://forum.zdoom.org/viewtopic.php?p=742401
HDoom: http://hdoomguy.tumblr.com/
Metroid Dreadnought: http://zandronum.com/forum/showthread.php?tid=4561

Other:
Doom RPG: http://forum.zdoom.org/viewtopic.php?f=19&t=33292
DoomRL Arsenal: http://forum.zdoom.org/viewtopic.php?t=37044
Hideous Destructor: http://forum.zdoom.org/viewtopic.php?t=12973
Hocus Doom: http://forum.zdoom.org/viewtopic.php?t=45804

Got something news-worthy? Reply to this post, or it'll likely be missed.

what do you guys think of Brutal Doom??
tried to play it and I was surprised that I neither disliked nor liked it.
the monster AI is great, but the projectiles are way too weak and chaingunners / zombies in general turn into nightmares.
not sure how to feel about modern stuff like iron sight and reloading

>>1991613

It's alright. It's not "more like doom than doom" it's not "what doom should have been" but it's fun in it's own right and a nice change of pace when you want something a little different.

>>1991579
What are you guys favourite mappers?

Mine are Adolf "Gusta" Vojta, and Darkwave0000.

>>1991613
>not sure how to feel about modern stuff like iron sight and reloading
I like that kind of stuff, depending on how it's done.
I think AtM did it better.

>>1991628
you have good taste.

>always had trouble blocking projectiles with the sword in demonsteele
>new update, sword was made just a few tics faster
>suddenly i'm blocking like a pro and cutting down bullets and fireballs left and right

holy shit i'm the motherfucking naruto of the north star

>>1991628
darkwave0000 is a mapping god (sod map31 for best looking map all years). insane gazebo did some fucking awesome work with the aesthetics and gameplay of sunder, and erik alm was a pretty god tier mapper.

>>1991642
>naruto of the north star
kill yourself

>>1991662
nah
get owned

>>1991580
>TSP not in /vr/ mods anymore
>TSP still not in so you want to play some Doom

;_;

>>1991680
>TSP will never be updated again
>Piratefall will never come
>Mel's sword will never come

;_;

>>1991580
>[10-05] Zandronum 1.3 is released: http://zandronum.com/forum/showthread.php?tid=5318

Tonight, in another episode of "WOW, it's fucking nothing"

>inb4 clanfriends swarm me

>>1991680
i did take a few older items out of the news post due to post length mostly. but i didn't remove tsp, it was never there.

>>1991692

Look at this man and laugh.

>>1991692
>>1991698
stop trolling already, port releases are perfectly legitimate news items

>>1991628

Eternal.

Has great, kinda surreal style. I also like that his maps look clean, no useless details.

>>1991628
B.P.R.D. Kinda wish I knew what happened to the sequel to grove.wad, though.

>>1991695
>it was never there.

https://archive.moe/vr/thread/1918307/#1918309
https://archive.moe/vr/thread/1924842/#1924843
https://archive.moe/vr/thread/1888634/#1888639
https://archive.moe/vr/thread/1892569/#1892571
https://archive.moe/vr/thread/1897970/#1897981
https://archive.moe/vr/thread/1903649/#1903654
etc.

>>1991690
Don't worry, I'm sure it will be updated SOON™

>>1991829
fuck these fat meatballs

So it's true? The GZdoom team is really going forward with the retarded graphical thing that'll pretty much alienate 80% of the player base?

>>1991842
Going forward?
Anon, they already went.

http://devbuilds.drdteam.org/gzdoom/

Enjoy 2.1, the wave of the future*.

*: Warning, future may contain copious amounts of shit.

>>1991852

Fuck that. I'm not updating.

Guess I'll have to start focusing on making mods compatible for zandronum only. Yeah who needs a built in reload key and all that other shit

;_;

>>1991842
what is "the retarded graphical thing"? can you link the commit? i'm intrigued.

>>1991836
okay so it disappeared a month ago?

>>1991862
Yeah. It was last posted on Sept. 9

>>1991842
>>1991852
Forgive my ignorance, but what alienating graphical thing are you guys talking about? I just skimmed the "recent git activity" page and didn't see anything.

>>1991861
>>1991867
tl;dr: GZDoom updated to OpenGL 4.4.
Turns out not a lot of people run OpenGL 4.4.

It's a massive requirement upgrade for extremely little benefit.

>>1991873
Pardon, not 4.4 specifically.
A modded 2.0 with some 4.x features.

http://forum.drdteam.org/viewtopic.php?f=22&t=6306

>>1991873
So, can we keep a constant link to the last non-garbage GZDoom in the news post?

>>1991873
>>1991876
thanks for the link. that's more or less what i had gleaned from the bug reports forum, e.g. http://forum.drdteam.org/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=6392#p55498

>>1991876
Zandronum masterrace wins again

Hey! I've just Finished my e1m3 and I'm starting to think about other maps. I've always thought secret maps were for special things and I think that could be some good fun to get it done by some anon!

So just a few requirements: Doom format
Biggest monstrer is baron
Slot is E1M9
Max weapon is plasma gun
EP1 style
No new graphics/sound but new music if you want

Once you're done sent your to wad.anon@laposte.net and HF!

Will repost this each day just so everybody can see it

How do the Lost Souls even attack you? I've always been under the impression they headbutt you. Or they hit you in the ass.

>>1991873
Going by the post in that link, it only affects "old Intel integrated chipsets." Realistically, what kind of difference will this make?

>>1991628
Erik Alm

Even since they came out, I can never get tired of playing through the Scythe wads (1,2 and X, especially Scythe2.wad).

Skillsaw is also worth mentioning (Vanguard.wad, Lunatic.wad, various contributions to community megawads). Both these mappers have maps with great flow that just makes me want to play through them over and over again.

>>1991884
They tear off your flesh and maul you with their fangs, you nigger.
Dont you have any imagination?

>>1991889
A lot.
One of the big strengths about Doom and its source ports is the flexibility it has with hardware--hell, the entire point of a source port is to port it to hardware so that more rigs can support it.

A lot of people consider a huge plus of Doom that they can run it on any machine and they don't need to shell out for a gaming rig for it. They can play it during off hours on their work computers.
This kind of goes completely against that.

>>1991901
No. I also thought that the Hellknights and Barons are throwing an endless supply of pistachio pudding at me.

>>1991873
But WHY?!
Why Zahl, WHY?
Can you at least toggle off the shit with modern versions so that us without Orichalcum Powered Godmachines can play it?

>>1991907
inb4 [No]

>>1991907
I have a mediocre (not bad, but not really good either, learnt that the hard way when I tried Saints Row IV on here) Intel integrated on my laptop, I don't know how old it is but it's not what >>1991889 says, and it seems to run fine. And it seems that Hellbound MAP29 doesn't run like a potato anymore, though there's still a clear FPS drop, it's at least playable.

>>1991916
My laptop is somewhat old, maybe 4 years old, but it has a GeForce GT 540M, and 6gb memory, it runs most Doom stuff ok in OpenGL (with some slowdown/framerate drop with particularly large and detailed maps, like Deus Vult II tier stuff), how fucked will I be with this 4.0 shit?

Will there be an option for selecting 2.0 OpenGL like there's an option for playing Software?

>>1991916

I can run Saints Row 4 pretty decently.

Can't run GZDoom at all.

>>1991924
>how fucked will I be with this 4.0 shit?
run the new builds and find out, bro
>Will there be an option for selecting 2.0 OpenGL like there's an option for playing Software?
nope, hf

>>1991916
That is a cool fucking jacket.

KILL ME! I'M ASKING YOU TO KILL ME!
OH PLEASE GOD KILL ME!

What's the general opinion about the second episode of BTSX? I thought it was even prettier than the first one (never really been a fan of industrial/techy maps) but I was a tad disappointd by the gameplay. It's not bad or anything but seriously the old "pop an archvile/revenant/pack of cacos behind the player while he's busy fighting other enemies" starts to feel really cheap after the 600th time.

>>1991948

I thought basically the same thing.
It's a ton prettier, music's a lot better, but the gameplay is pretty...eehh...

>>1991873
>>1991876
My ages-old GPU can't handle anything above OpenGL 3.1, yet most of the games run perfectly fine on it. Plus, not everyone can afford the latest, most high-tech hardware. Dammit GZ y u do dis

>>1991712
>port releases are perfectly legitimate news items

then where the hell are the EDGE, PrBoom+ and Doom Retro bit of news? :^)

>>1991962
IN MY ASS

Remember:
Report and ignore.

Fuck your mum, IMX

>>1991881
>masterrace

someone post the gamma enhanced port comparison guide, pls

wait, nevermind, not now. let's wait a while

>Jim Carrey
>white

It ain't fit to talk about on /vr/, but since it's practically the last arena shooter left, what do you fellow gentlemen think of TF2?

Donald's on the loose....someone shoot the duck

>>1991971
There's still Quake 3.

>>1991974
Sure, you can still play Quake 3, UT2004, and Doom online, but for the most part they're dead.

>>1991974

and it's retro
and thankfully it doesn't have community-ruining crap like hats

for now

>>1991962
>EDGE
That's still a thing?

>>1991962
Where are the replies to the News post about them? :^)

>BTSX
>Map 07
>That first SpiderDemon
Kind of expected it
>Kill it
>Grab a rocket launcher from a little cove
>Go back outside
>There is now an additional SpiderDick
>Low on ammo, I high-tail it to the underground area
>Flip the switch
>A fucking third one spawns inside the cave
Keep in mind that I have only 7 rockets, 3 shells, and about 100 bullets.
When does it end?

>>1992096
>Implying the ride can possibly end

>>1992096
Wait until you fetch the red key from tough skin river

We gotta get together and tell those dipshits to pull back from this openGL thing. The only thing this will accomplish is fracturing this community further. Who the fuck would want to make mods for a sourceport that no one can play?

I certainly won't

>>1992128
The problem is, it's one dipshit - Graf Zahl. A stuck up, obtuse fuckmeister with open contempt for the mod community.

>>1992134

Fuck him then. He can't be the only one in charge. We need a majority rules against him. We've already have shit broken up as is between Zan and GZdoom. This new direction is going to fucking make things far worse

>>1991613
I generally don't like it, but there's something really satisfying about blowing cacodemons in half with the super shotgun.

>>1992134

I dunno, sometimes he makes the right decisions.

>new Z&
>still doesn't support functions from the ZDoom 2.6.0 era
muh ZDoom only mods

>>1992143
>He can't be the only one in charge.
Considering the "GZ" in GZDoom stands for Graf Zahl, he kind of is the only one in charge. What we need is someone else who will either keep GZDoom 1.9 up to date, or someone that can code an entirely new renderer so Graf can keep his high-end Nvidia circlejerk and we can have a functional hardware renderer.

>>1992151

Why is this guy in charge? Someone please tell me why one of the most flexible and moddable games out there has all of its source ports ran and managed by senseless spergs?

Like fucking seriously, why. All of this is deeply upsetting.

>>1992157

Something needs to be done. Otherwise this is going to become a goddamn mess and the modding community will suffer for it.

>>1992170

Please explain what you think can be done aside from "keep GZDoom 1.9 up to date" or "somehow code a new renderer from scratch".

>>1992175
He didn't say those weren't viable options - just said that we can't sit on our ass and expect shit to sort itself out.

>>1992159
>trusting the Germans

>>1992175

That's pretty much our only options, and I don't know how difficult either of those are.

I'm just salty as hell over this. It's horseshit

>>1992134
>with open contempt for the mod community.

Before anyone considers this to be exaggeration or trollbait, no. Here is a list of actual quotes:

>People [...] save because they have to stop playing to do other stuff and want to resume later. But the perceived abuse that comes with allowing this is something that modders should live with - and not go out of their way to break the engine and annoy people who want to use the save function for this or any other reason.
>This is a very large part of the reason why I scaled back my involvement in engine development so much. 4-5 years ago I had the feeling that what I did still mattered. I don't have that anymore.
>Some of what you people come up with baffle me. The amount of abuse people could cause with this is limitless - and to be blunt, I don't care about any supposed "potential" people can do with it.
>There's a certain faction of modders here that think they have the right to demand everything but completely forget that ZDoom is named after Doom - and its main purpose will forever to play Doom (and the other Doom engine based games of course.) So (big surprise!) the main focus of is features will remain the game it was originally designed for and mods made for that game.
>To me your non-Doomy stuff is a secondary consideration at best and if you want features that get in the way or can be abused to get in the way of Doom - I'll say STOP.
>Why the hell should I even bother considering this? If I encountered any wad with [feature] I would drag it straight into the recycling bin where it belongs.
>In case you have not noticed, any worthwhile level there is perfectly makes do with the existing implementation.

>>1992157
>mfw I've been making Forsaken Planet for GZDoom
>mfw I've been planning on making Berserkmod for GZDoom

>>1991613
Opinions vary widely. Some think it's the best thing to happen to Doom, others the worst. I personally like the over-the-top gore and the reworked weapon mechanics, but I'm not so big on the earrape and some of the compatibility issues. I've been enjoying Sperglord Edition for those reasons.

Just don't let loudmouths tell you what to think.

>>1992029

they're there, look them up on the internet. also it's not my job to update the thing :^)

>>1992157
>GZ in GZDoom stands for Graf Zahl
>mfw this whole time I thought it stood for GL ZDoom

>>1992202
>There's a certain faction of modders here that think they have the right to demand everything but completely forget that ZDoom is named after Doom - and its main purpose will forever to play Doom (and the other Doom engine based games of course.) So (big surprise!) the main focus of is features will remain the game it was originally designed for and mods made for that game.

OPENGL. 4 POINT FUCKING ZERO.

EAT SHIT, GRAF

>>1992202

whoa_ni.gga
you_expect_me_to_r.ead
all_that_green.txt

loljk

>the main focus of is features will remain the game it was originally designed for

I can't put my finger on it, but I just KNOW something is fucked up right here

>>1992215
Me too.

I miss doom legacy :(

(but no zdoom features)

>>1992202
>The amount of abuse people could cause with this is limitless
> if you want features that get in the way or can be abused to get in the way of Doom - I'll say STOP.

But you can already fuck someone by just having a map and some decorate that spawns a gorillion actors per second that each spawn a gorillion actors themselves.

What on earth could give more potential for abuse that would be in a Doom wad? Why is potential "abuse" a reason not to implement features?

>>1992241
Because he's an asshole, Anon.

Pic may be related.

I know this would probably be more suited for /agdg/, but I wanted to run it by you bros first in case anything just happened to know something.

Assuming DECK ever comes through and makes it it probably won't, we'll probably have a viable method to make retro sprite-based FPSes. There's Harmony and Action Doom 2, both being full-fledged games, but since they're built in ZDoom they can't really officially be called "games".
In the meantime, though, what other methods are there? I've created a pretty popular ZDoom mod that I'd like to expand out into its own thing as a full-fledged indie game, kind of like what DoomRL is doing (except it's not a Doom mod I guess), but the big thing that baffles me is just how...clunky all of the existing options seem to be.

Unity clearly isn't designed for FPSes.
The Unreal engine is used fucking everywhere, and is more relevant to 3D shit than 2D.
Pie in the Sky HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
Game Maker might be interesting but every FPS I've seen done in it has been pathetic at best.
RetroBlazer and Nexuiz were built off the Dark Places engine and can handle 2D through hackery, but being based off the open-source Quake code won't that cause licensing issues?

Any viable options out there for an aspiring modder looking to make a full-fledged retro sprite-based indie shooter?

>>1992249
>I've created a pretty popular ZDoom mod that I'd like to expand out into its own thing as a full-fledged indie game

which one?

>>1992249
errr make your own?

>>1991906
kek

>>1992249
>Pie in the Sky
That really took me back.

>>1992159
You should see what the emulation scene looks like.

>>1992175
ZDoom and GZDoom are both developed in Git. I don't have personal experience handling software version control and my impression may be flawed; but doesn't the way Git works lend itself very well to maintaining forks that will also receive later updates to the root project? According to the commit log GZDoom regularly merges whatever changes happen in the ZDoom repository.

If that's the case someone should at least suggest to Graf to keep a live 1.x branch that would merge any trivial ZDoom changes (that is, not requiring special attention in the rendering code), and when more work is needed, leave it to volunteers to supply patches. How hard could it be?

Then again perhaps anyone from the community could just as well step up to maintain such a fork.

I say we make a separate branch of GZdoom and call it either MZdoom (moddable)

or FGZdoom (fuck graf zahl)

>>1992291
VRDoom?

>>1992301

No. If this becomes a thing it'd be for modders and those who love mods. We here at /vr/ only make up a small portion. So MZDoom sounds best

>>1992307
"Moddable ZDoom" would imply that ZDoom isn't moddable already, though.

>>1992249
>but being based off the open-source Quake code won't that cause licensing issues?
From what I've found out, you can apparently sell games you make with DarkPlaces since it's under GPL you have to release everything pertaining to the engine as open source however your game's assets such as models, sounds, music can be licensed how you wish.

>>1992319
OGZdoom

ALL I WANT IS FUCKING DOOMSCRIPT

What makes DOOM such a large bastion for modding? Is it the fact that it's sprite-based? What about Unreal modding? Why aren't there any 3d modeling tools (that I know of) that are as easy and simple to use as Paint programs. I like a kind of Trenchbroom 3d modeling or something similar would be nice. Sure, there are much better tools available, but for simplicity it would be very nice.

>>1992319

OpenZDoom? Either way graf zahl needs to get fucked. I don't even understand why he's doing this, he's adding extra visual shit for a game this old but it's not actually changing anything other than raising the requirements?

I think carmack would be pissed

why is doom so goddamn addicting? ive seriously been playing it for 3/4 of my life and the gameplay never gets old

>>1992323

Interesting.
All right, I'll have to give that a look and see where things go.
Thanks.

>>1992341
No problem, just be sure to get all your bases covered with it, software licenses can be quite tricky if you don't fully know/understand them.

It seems I cant go into Iron Maiden mode in the new version of Demon Steele, just cant do the "hold attack and press activate item" anymore

>>1992381
You've got to get it now. It replaces the BFG. Then you do the hold attack and activate item.

>>1992272
/emugen/ too, huh?
What a fucking mess the emulation scene is.

>>1992385
Oh I see, thank you sir!

>>1991628
Agent Spock for Ultimate Simplicity.

It's the only one I even cared about.

>>1992397
Nah, I've just hung around romhacking sites long enough to know.

what music/bands does /doom/ listen to while dooming?

here's some of mine:

http://youtu.be/kgPHVTDjbFA
http://youtu.be/Wnn47V09Q2M
http://youtu.be/K2rwxs1gH9w

>unknowingly load up the 3rd and 5th version of hdoom into a wad at the same time

>You can fuck multiple demons if they're in a certain range

Is there a site where there are loads of sprites for custom doom melee weapons?

>>1992561

Pretty much the ZDoom forums

Hey, Term said he never tested invasion with this.

:: [BE] Montreal :: Presidential Campaign /// Demonsteele - Invasion on Armageddon2, Alpha/Delta, UTNT, and Skulltag with Metal Jukebox

LET'S SEE WHAT WE CAN BREAK

i dunno why ppl are complaining about opengl 4...

my laptop with integrated intel hd 4000 supports it. hell most prebuilt desktops come with better then that, and if not you can get a card that supports it for like $50.

i wonder how many people are still running pcs with agp video card slots though... i can see why they're complaining though

>>1991979
What are you talking about? Doom 2 and Quake 1-3 each have hundreds of people playing them at any given time.

How many people actually can't use any kind of OpenGL features?

As an aspiring mapper, this is a real concern to me.

>>1992668

I can on Zandronum, but now I can't open GZDoom so.

>>1992630
I'm pretty sure people are complaining either because most of us have no 4.x support, or don't want to waste $50 on getting a new GPU just for ONE port, which shouldn't even require 4.x in the first place.

>>1992448
That first song is awesome. Thanks for sharing, now I have something to blast all day haha
I prefer listening to fast paced/distorted music while gaming. Usually aggressive DNB stuff, but as long as it can get me into an action mood, it's good.

http://youtu.be/qmSqOBNOvqs
http://youtu.be/B3JHH14xEoQ
http://youtu.be/zW3dGB-vl8U

>>1992630
It's because it's fucking overkill for a fucking Doom port.

Seems I'm one of the few people who can run the new GZDoom perfectly fine.

>>1992685
i remember when Doom Builder 2 came out and required what was then a high-end machine to run and there was endless complaining

now no-one seems to care.

i imagine GZDoom will go the same way

>>1991881
If your zandronum is so superior? Why can't it run skulltag wads without missing/broken textures?

>>1992249
Why not use quake 3, source, or some other id tech variant?

>>1991757
Fucking 100x this, there aren't enough Doom maps that set a mood and focus on exploration.

>>1991881
Hey idiot, Zandronum is based off of ZDoom/GZDoom, think about that for a second.

Is there any way I can play DOOM in 1920x1080? I'm using ZDoom.

>>1992685
What else is fucking new? People whined about GZDoom's requirements long before this. You guys are blowing this way out of proportion.

>>1992729
Isn't the option to play in that resolution available in the options?

Are there any wads around that include shit blowing up and geometry changing? Like in Duke Nukem?

I'd like to do this myself for a level I'm making but want to see how others did it.

>>1991757
I still find it interesting that he can make amazing maps like grove.wad and cc2 map24, and then theres stuff like Nuts, and doom 2 2.

>>1992729
Pretty sure nearly every port, including zdoom, can be played in that resolution.

>>1992735
I think map12 of Going Down does that.

>>1992736
>doom 2 2

The text file for that is hilarious. http://www.doomworld.com/idgames/?file=combos/doom2_2.zip

>>1992747
Dang it Cyberdemon you haven't even been sexualized yet, why are you angry at this

>>1992761
>you haven't even been sexualized yet

>>1992762
I meant in game but close enough.

I really like how that artist draws Cyberdemon girls

>>1992764
Same, her and hell knightess best girl.

>>1992761
Cyberdemon's been sexualized the whole time.

>>1992765
Hell Knight and Imp girl are great.

Would love to see more.
Also that one artist that drew the curvy Pain Elemental girl, that was great.

>>1992751
>those comments

Holy shit.

>>1992767
Shake dat ass.

>>1992751
I had a great laugh, thanks for that.

>>1992701
Usually the reason is wads that use resources from skulltag.wad which isn't shipped with Zandronum by default. Throw skulltag_data and skulltag_actors in and wads should work.

>>1992828
Not all of them.
Like CDoom64

>>1992735
>>1992750
That works in Boom from what I've read, any that do it in Hexen or UDMF format?

>>1991579
How to ACTUALLY draw Cacodemon

>1. draw circle
>2. steal the rest of the art and recolor

>>1992864

Step 3. HISSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS

It's time.
>Baroness
>more pinky
>more imp

How the fuck do I get freelook to work in Ultimate Doom on zDoom?

>>1991579

>>1992864
I really wanna fight one of those things in Doom, full Astral Dreadnought mode.

>>1991967

hello?

>>1993030

DELETE THIS!

>>1992767

>>1992964

>>1992864
It's clearly based on the Astral Dreadnought, but I'm almost positive the Cacodemon was drawn like it is from scratch.

>>1993086

>>1993086

So whatever happened to that Cyberpunk thing?
Did we just forget about it?

>>1991873

Thank Jesus I have a 280x.

>>1992958
>posting nips
Nice knowin' ya, mate.

>>1993091
>revenant missile
>fires revenant projectiles
>yfw

>>1991842
For all shitters about 2.1
I'm sorry, but this is pretty amazing job from them, at least from my point of view.
The most riddiculous is texture smoothing for me. Its AAx4 level, and this is pretty noice.
Don't shit at it this much, the code looks pretty much the same, and number of new features is pretty low. All upcomming mods should work well both on 2.1 and late 1.8.

>>1992432
he's your favourite mapper, yet you can't even spell his name right

>>1991852
Is this why GZDoom runs like shit now? What is a good version to "downgrade" to?

>>1993374

The last 1.9 build.

>>1992249
You can totally legally use a source port of quake. There's a whole series of indy games on steam that uses it. Thirty flights of loving or something like that.

>>1993340
>Don't shit at it this much, the code looks pretty much the same, and number of new features is pretty low.

It's not so much a matter of mod compatibility as it's that this will make GZDoom impossible to run on old machines due to intense system requirements. For Doom, a 20+ year old game.

I genuinely don't see what the point of this is.

>>1993340
>All upcomming mods should work well both on 2.1 and late 1.8.

http://forum.zdoom.org/viewtopic.php?f=19&t=34298

Mod released just today.
Can't run on 1.9. Requires 2.1.

>>1993430
as i said upthread, people said the same things about Doom Builder 2 when it first came out. now no-one cares.

>>1993438
where does it say it requires 2.1

>>1993438
http://forum.zdoom.org/viewtopic.php?f=19&t=34298&start=30#p787581
>In anticipation of a wider player base,
delusions of grandeur much??

Is OpenGL 2.0 really that big of a problem? Shouldn't just about every graphics card made in the past 10 years support that? If you're playing Doom on a toaster there's about 20 other sourceports to choose from anyway.

>>1991948
Just like Hellbound: a joy to see, a pain in the ass to play. After a while all the little tricks just start repeating: Archvile out of nowhere when backtracking, Arachnotron at the end of a long narrow corridor, Commandos on distant ledges, Revenants on distant ledges, Revenats teleporting behind you, Revenant squad with accompanying Archvile, Revenants teleporting in a minuscle room, secret with Revenant closet, Revenants, Revenants... Unlike what the Skeleton Internet Defence Force would like you to believe ther is such thing as too many Revenants. I liked the first episode better.

>>1993475
4.4, not 2.0

>>1993087
Yeah. It was definitely done from reference, but it was still done by scratch. If you were to put the two next to eachother, the overall design matches up, but not the details.

>>1991757
I think it was shared in one of these threads, you might check the archives though.

>>1993467
>where does it say it requires 2.1

In the fucking error log when you load it up with 1.9.

So it sounds like I missed a lot while I've been gone. New GZdoom sounds turrible. I guess I'll stick with older versions on my laptop.

>>1993493
That's nice, dude.

>>1993491
>In the fucking error log when you load it up with 1.9.
complain to the author that his thread lacks essential information. don't take that tone with others who don't deserve it.

>>1993493
dude, i'd been wondering what happened to you
welcome back

>>1993493
Cool, you're not dead.

>>1993493
i've not seen any complaints about the new gzdoom outside of these threads. i would have expected something on doomworld given that it is oldschool central.

is there any discussion about the issue elsewhere?

muh furst webbum

>>1993514
>>1993517
Never dead, just frequently distracted. I tend to jump from project to project.

>>1993520
What am I looking at?

>>1993135
I haven't forgotten, personally. Just waiting to put out the latest Hdoom before I put time into anything else.

The 2-4 days it takes for us to put a release together (the process of implementing the newest graphics/monster grills + waiting on the CG) always makes me antsy as fuck.

>>1993550
Spellcasting GUI a-la Legend of Grimrock

>>1993551
>2-4 days
>antsy as fuck
That's all? Maybe if it was taking a week or so, but come on.
I fucking wish I could put together releases that quickly.

>>1993562
It's not so much that it's a long period, it's more that i get antsy easily when i'm in the waiting phase (as opposed to the 'doing graphics' phase, where i'm keeping myself occupied)

I need some help with this ACS. I'm trying to get a working stamina system for melee weapons, each swing takes stamina, if you don't meet the stamina requirement the swing comes out slower. Stamina also should regen by itself. The problem is that I want a 3 second delay where stamina doesn't regen when you hit 0, so you can't just keep spamming the melee weapons. The code in the pic ignores the if statement and continues to regen stamina like normal even if you hit 0 stamina

>>1993619
that should work

if it doesn't have the if stamina = 0 give 1 stamina after the 100 delay and then restart, and put the rest under an else

>>1993629
It didn't do much, it still performs the same as before

>>1993619
are you sure your stamina hits 0?

Can someone please explain the exact benefits of using OpenGL 4.4 in GZdoom? (Not that I care, my GPU has it). What are the new features?

>>1993652
On the HUD, the ammo counter displays 0 when I keep swinging but it regens normally

>>1993654

Elitism.

>>1993667
No I mean seriously, what are the techinical benefits? I don't see any new fancy lightning option on the menu, all lights looks the same as before, there is no notable optmization (Brutal still lags like hell on slaughtermaps). What was Graf exactly trying to achieve with this update? Am I just missing something?

>>1993680
maybe this update was just to add 4.4 and features will come later

Trying to run CDoom64, but get this error every time:
Execution could not continue.
Script error, "cdoom64(1).wad:DECORATE" line 382:
Replaced type 'Cacolantern' not found in CacoLanternBlueBlood

Wat do?

>>1993693
Did you load it with Skulltag_actors and Skulltag_data?

>>1993693
It won't work unless you have some old as fuck version as Skulltag.

It was starting to become incompatible before Zandronum was even a thing.

>>1993696
Yep, loaded it with both

>>1993646
This >>1993652 may be the issue.

Troubleshoot by upping the limit to 10 or something, if that works then you know it works it just isn't hitting 0.

>>1993619
>>1993646
Should it not be a While loop?

zdoom.org/wiki/Loops

Hey guys, in Doom II it seems that for some reason HP/Armour/Ammo doesn't show up anywhere on my screen. Is there some sort of fix for this?

>>1993819
try pushing the minus key

>>1993819
Try pressing -

>>1993824
>>1993827
worked like a charm, thanks guys

>>1993701

Loaded it in the wrong order, then. cdoom64 should be loaded last.

>>1993680

Nothing. It's just dick waving to this guy

Let's go surfin' now, everybody's learnin' how

>>1994173
I ain't afraid of no quake.

So how's your dooming lately, Doomfriends?

What sounds worse?

"We want the OpenGL 4.0 audience", or "We want the Zandronum audience"?

>>1994173

COME AND SAFARI WITH MEEEEEEEE

>>1994257
OpenGL 4.4 is literally just a graphics api.
How the hell can it have an audience?

>>1994257

The former, by far.

>>1994275

Explain

>>1994268

Ask Graf Zahl

>>1994257
the first

>>1994257
As shit as the Zandronum community is, I'm gonna have to go with the former. One of the main appeals of Doom is being able to play it on a toaster and this shit just defeats the purpose. I do have a GPU with OGL 4.0 support but when Zandronum reaches the version of GZDoom that requires GL 4.0 (of course that's gonna be in a long time, hue), it's most likely going to make the player count go even lower than it already is. Maybe I'm missing something about GZDoom and Zandronum, though.

>>1994290
>Maybe I'm missing something about GZDoom and Zandronum, though.

Nothing; the one missing a lot from GZDoom, however, is Zandronum

>>1994257
>What sounds worse?
Heh. I can smell the bait a mile off.
But I'll bite and say the GL4 audience.

>Installing Matrix: Path of Neo
>Apparently the sounds are stored in .WAD files

>>1994295

...wut

>Muslim female main character
>heavy emphasis on platforming, light combat
>quotes from the Quran sprinkled throughout
>designed to be educational, but also challenging and fun
>like, I Wanna Be The Guy levels of challenge

Would /vr/ play it?

>>1994410

>IWBTG difficulty

No.

>>1994410
>muslim female
*tips fedora*

>>1994410

You seem to have the wrong thread, friend.
But IWBTG difficulty would just be stupid.

>>1994410
>>1994428
>like, I Wanna Be The Guy levels of challenge

you can drop down the difficulty a little without losing the hardcore appeal

>educational, but also challenging and fun

mfw

also, are you sure this is related do retro fps? or fps at all?

Does anyone know of mod that has good 3D models?

>>1994451
>are you sure this is related do retro fps? or fps at all?
Yes, I would be using the Zdoom engine.

>>1994432
Pardon?

>>1994410

I'd give it a shot, but the difficulty is throwing up red flags.
See, the big problem with difficulty is that there's a difference between hard and cheap, and the big problem would be figuring out how to balance between the two.

Heavy platforming in a first-person engine may lend itself far too much to being "cheap" in difficulty.

>>1994410
why the islam shit?

>>1994410
i'd try it
but the difficulty would be something to watch out for

>>1994410
Why not, could be fun.

>>1994410

I don't care about the character or the setting. Tell us about the gameplay. Do you have any maps done? Will combat be typical doom run and gun? Any keyhunting? What do you have in mind for the platforming? What are your goals for level design?

>>1994410
>Samsara is Buddhist
>Demonsteele is Christian
>platforming about Islam
terminus is that you

>>1994496
No, Terminus actually makes good games, not shitty educational platformers with mudlims. It's probably Princess SJWleaf.

>>1994482
>Will combat be typical doom run and gun?
Pretty much. I have plans for at least three weapons.
>Any keyhunting?
Maps will mostly be straightforward and linear, based on precise execution rather than exploration.
>What do you have in mind for the platforming?
Doublejumps, and a mechanic similar to rocketjumping for reaching high places. There will be lots of spikes, pits, and lava.
>What are your goals for level design?
To create a pulse-pounding and exciting adventure through 3D space.

>>1994515

You may want to look at Cyberrunner, then. The project died, but Terminus left the code open-source for anyone to look at/use/fork off for their own purposes.

https://github.com/TerminusEst13/cyberrunner

There's already a pretty functional platforming system to use as a basis, it'd just need a little editing for your purposes.

Mike12 here.

It's time.
http://static.best-ever.org/wads/m12-hdoom-techdemo6.pk3

>>1994531
yay

>>1994531
lmao love the visual novel ssg

>>1994531
why does doomguy only sometimes have a monster cock

>>1994545
mostly because of gradually learning what dick size works best for this stuff.

How does QuakeC compare to Decorate/ACS?

>>1994571
>>1994545

Do berserk packs do anything in game? Make them a penis pump or tiger blood or something that makes his dick bigger

>>1994624
Why not a whole box of viagra?

>>1994628
that would work

Dicking around in DECORATE, trying to create a projectile that travels along the ground and bounces off walls a few times before exploding. Think Green Shells from Mario Kart.

Not sure how to go about this. +FLOORHUGGER is close, but not exactly what I'm looking for.

>>1994639
+FLOORHUGGER and +HEXENBOUNCE with BounceCount of 4?

>>1994651
That works. Thanks.

Any way to make it bounce when colliding with a raised floor the way it bounces when colliding with a solid wall? It looks kind of odd when it hits a raised floor and then suddenly jumps to the top of it rather than reflecting off it.

>MarioDM mod gets updated
>has some really cool looking and faithful mario weapons
>requires GZdoom 2.1

For what fucking purpose.

>>1991580 see >>1994531

>>1994693
welcome to the future of doom
mods only a fraction of the playerbase can run

So I finally beat BTSXE1. What should I move on to next? I want something a little smaller but not just a single level wad. I'll play BTSXE2 sometime soon.

>>1994792
lunatic
dystopia 3
hellcore 2.0

>>1994531
Will the CG in the hotfix be about Doomguy getting reverse-gangbanged to death by the demon ladies?

>>1994804
>To death
>Not ending in happy snoo snoo but with demons girls just taking over everything

>>1994804
>>1994831
>Doomguy Snoo-snoo'd to death
>Since Deimos is now in hell he immediately stands back up and keeps going until all the girls are satisfied
>He just pats himself on the back and carry on in his adventure, completely oblivious
>Cue storm of horrible puns about his 'walking stiff'

>>1994410
>Muslim female main character
>quotes from the Quran sprinkled throughout
Now, I'm not gonna tell you what to do or stop you or anything, but why this in particular?

>>1994873
Why Muslim female character? Because there aren't enough positive WOC role models in vidya. Chell is like, the only one.

Why quotes from the Quran? Well, this is just a "maybe", but I figure if the main character is Muslim, maybe there could be collectable Quran pages. They'd be an optional collectible bonus item, put in hard-to-reach places so the player can be challenged while they learn about the religion of peace.

>>1994693
why not post "why does this require such a recent gzdoom, which for some reason doesn't work with many existing graphics cards including my own" at http://forum.zdoom.org/viewtopic.php?f=19&t=34298

>>1994880
>Because there aren't enough positive WOC role models in vidya.
Wrath of Cronos is a pretty good mod, though.

>>1994880
I was more thinking why the religious angle?
It just makes me think of all those terrible religious bootleg games from the 90's that were meant to be educational but were either awful knockoffs of good games, or the original educational games which were outright terrible.

Also, please don't say "of color", I don't know a single ethnic person who doesn't hate that phrase (most regard it as forced PC bullshit, and most black people I've talked to prefer just "black", just like we say "white"), and it also implies that white is not a color.

>>1994880
What is WOC?

>>1994880
>I figure if the main character is Muslim, maybe there could be collectable Quran pages
This comes out very wrong anon.

Underhalls Remix map maker here.

I'm thinking I'll drop that project because it's too close to the original. I've wanted to make a shorter map I know and like for a while to cut my teeth on before making my own maps, so I can actually have the talent to make the ones I have planned.
The level of detail I prefer is a bit more than what vanilla can actually handle, so I might remake it again and use UDMF features I intend to use in the maps that I've always wanted to make. Can have better moster variety too.

So thanks those who encouraged it, including the big comment in the last thread, even though he didn't like it I can see what he's saying so might have to approach the whole thing from another angle.

Would /vr/ approve of melee-oriented .wads?
I'm working on this thing but I don't much free time. Any thoughts?

>>1994906
Yeah, I don't think any christian character has to go out and find pages from duh bible and etc.

>>1994905
Woman of color.

>>1994898
>please don't say "of color"
Thanks, I'll keep that in mind in the future.

Yeah, you think it reminds you of Wisdom Tree? I could probably have it pay homage to Sunday Funday somehow.

>>1994908
I've been playing the fuck out of Demonsteele and GMOTA.

If you do a melee mod you got to have satisfying as fuck Melee.

Demonsteele's sword is kind of meh because there's only rapid slashes and the gore totally makes up for that.
The punches on the other hand are fucking incredible.

GMOTA has good sounds and blood and power for it's attacks so it works well.

This is also one reason I really want that Berserk mod.

So what will your melee mod be like?

>>1994908
>Would /vr/ approve of melee-oriented .wads?

Yes. Please. Demonsteele, Space Pirate, and that other mod have proven that melee combat when done right can be really really fun

>>1994914
It's straight up Wisdom Tree.

Collecting bible verses = Collecting Quran verses.
This is a bad thing.

Make a character religious but don't force them to wear it on their sleeve and turn them into a caricature.
It's why Bioware's characters are obnoxious instead of endearing.

>>1994880
>>1994410
10/10 bait

>>1994915
I'm thinking something similar to the Space Pirate regarding combos. Swords will have fast combos and block bullets (cliche) for example. You will have to time your swings with an axe (similar to l4d2). I'm also thinking of including Borderlands 2 Tediore guns as boxing gloves, each punch being explosive and throwable as well.

>>1994908
>Would /vr/ approve of melee-oriented .wads?
sure why not
there's a couple of berserk maps in 200minvr after all

>>1994928

>throwable, disposable, explodable boxing gloves

MAKE IT HAPPEN.

>>1994929
come to think of it there's plenty of fist maps but you don't see many chainsaw maps.

Does anybody have a problem with running Doom where the game never fully loads and keeps the mouse cursor on the screen and fucks things around?

I get this in 5 out of 10 loadups.

>>1994931
probably because you can kill more stuff with fists. chainsaw sticks you to your target. if its pain chance is too low it will kill you.

How come there's so many Doom mods nowadays but you don't see any Quake ones anymore?
I mean, Quake modding used to be huge!

>>1994943
it's easy as fuck to mod doom

>>1994943
Doom modding is easier for a start, it's also open to more shit now.

It's easier to make a decent sprite than it is a decent model. Not that decent spriting is easy, mind.

Then again, making model guns of the quality quake has compared to todays tools.....

>>1994928
Somehow I forgot TSP.
It's been a long while since I played it since no updates

I am fine with what you are suggesting here with your weapons, although I'm pretty sure I wouldn't want to throw my fists at enemies if the explosive punches are satisfying.

>>1994947
>>1994949
Well that sucks. When I see the talent that courses these threads, I seriously wonder what could be if we also did Quake mods.

I'm kinda tempted to do one myself. Is the Darkplaces engine easy to mod for?

>>1994917
>Make a character religious but don't force them to wear it on their sleeve and turn them into a caricature.
This.

For instance, I think a character who is a Sikh, fighting demons, would be some tight shit, but having him collect religious texts arbitrarily would just feel forced and contrived, I mean, there's more to a person than their religion, nobody has their entire person based 100% around their religious beliefs, they have hobbies, they have interests, they have political beliefs that don't relate to their religious beliefs, they have a job, they have friends, etc.

I'm trying to implement a rolling system in Doom that requires stamina. The problem is I want to make the rolling dependent on your cameras angle, instead of what it is right now, which is based on your position on the map.
If you roll foward, you roll north, regardless where you're facing so it looks weird. How can I make it so you roll the direction your facing.

Also another thing how can I give the roll invulnerability during the roll

>>1994960
You can, but I have no idea how big the quake community is that still plays and holds out for fan made content.

>>1994965
It will always be considered contrived because it'll be painfully obvious the people making it are patronizing, guilt ridden white people. The kinds of people who think something is just inherently racist if if has a lot of white people in it.

People aren't stupid, I've had sexual experiences with other men and can tell Bioware tier pandering a mile away and I don't stamp my feed for not seeing enough "inclusiveness" of my own demographic.

Come to think of it I've never even seen a game with bisexual protagonists (unless I make one) and I don't care either.

>>1994976
http://zdoom.org/wiki/ThrustThing says how to thrust based on actor angle

>>1994983
>I've had sexual experiences with other men
lol fag

>>1994983
>I've had sexual experiences with other men
is that what's happening in that picture

>>1994987
I tried that before, with both copy pasting the code and just using the word angle alone, neither of them work

>>1994983
>I have no idea how big the quake community is that still plays and holds out for fan made content.
It's very small.

Quake was mostly popular for the multiplayer content so the fanbase moved on with later entries of the series.

>>1994997
http://zdoom.org/wiki/GetActorAngle perhaps this will help

>>1994959
Not that guy, but I remember Tediore guns in the sequel regenerating themselves after being thrown. As long as you had ammo, another one materializes in your hands and ready to be used.

>>1994931
Chainsaw is literally suicide against enemies with low painchance, and large groups of ranged enemies, since it locks into one enemy.

Berserk Fists do a great amount of damage, and allow you to kite.

>>1994989
check ur privilege! ;_;

>>1994993
no, thats a guy with a dunny plunger on his head

mine involved his ass and my pen0r

>>1995003
It did help a lot, but I only works good for rolling forward. All the other directions will make it move forward as well.

>>1995036
well you obviously have to add offsets for the other angles as described on the page for ThrustThing

When is R667 coming back?

Seeing it gone reminded me why I liked it, it's great to browse while thinking about mapping stuff.

So I've been playing Plutonia 2 and Unloved recently, and god damn, they're fun as fuck!
Are there any other wads like them? Specifically Unloved, as I know there are LOADS of Plutonia inspired wads.

>>1991613
I think it's excellent and has taken over vanilla for me- after playing it since 1993.

THere are some minor balance issues though. And the effects for rocket smoke and mancubus napalm just don't suit the doom gameplay and make it too annoying.

>>1994804
Considering it's an ending CG taking place after you beat the baronesses, it'll likely involve you in a more top-position.

>>1991884
blunt trauma from the high velocity of a burning skull flying at full speed towards you, also heat damage from the burning. (fucking retard)

>>1995070
You might like Cheogsh, it also has a sequel.

http://www.doomworld.com/idgames/?file=levels/doom2/Ports/a-c/cheogsh.zip

>>1994998
it's quite active and impressive releases made in many cases by fucking professionals are regular. Talking about the singleplayer

did you guys ever played any wad with the death incarnates? They are reskinned revenants (pretty cool skin) that damage you by gazing at you and also they ressurrect a little bit after you have killed them

>>1995087
Yeah, they are actually pretty good monsters.

Psychophobia has them (loved that wad).

>>1992249
The general stance is still: OSS the engine, make the art proprietary.
Biggest issue will always be the build tools, assuming the engine works.

>>1995070
I heard that Unloved 2 is also in the works. But the author has been quite silent for some time.

>>1994531

>try MarioDM mod
>load with old GZDoom
>errors include "unknown identifier 'speed'" and nothing else recognizable

...so basically I could strip out the new rendering code and not have to deal with this shit?
Doesn't GZDoom have a Github? Can someone who knows how to handle rendering code fork the damned thing?

>PEOPLE FUCKING KEPT RESPONDING TO THAT

If you're not part of the solution, you're part of the problem.

Does anyone know if there's a .wad or mod that restores the wolfensteinesque treasures and lives that the Doom alpha had?

Might be interesting to play the game like that.

>>1994915
>is kind of meh because there's only rapid slashes

I've been thinking about that, actually.
I've been working on two things.
One, holding down fire without double-tapping a direction charges up a more powerful slash.
Two, spamming slashing at the absolute fastest speed gets slightly nerfed damage, but underneath the combo bar is a stamina meter that drains whenever you slash--it takes a second to refill, and whenever you slash at full, it does 1.5x damage.

>>1995190
>Unloved 2

Sadly, it won't be made.
That sucks too, it really was headed for a double cacoward.

Is it me or the Zombie replacements in HDoom finally have correct HP?
In the previous tech demos they seemed to have the exact same HP as regular Imps.

Also, dat Baroness.

>>1995295
>Doesn't GZDoom have a Github?
Yes.
https://github.com/coelckers/gzdoom

>>1991613

>Doomguy is a ...

>>1995057
Just checked the FB page then, comes back sometime Sunday.

Hey, any news with that engine Carmack was doing with diminished lightning and texture mapping?

>>1994983
>I don't care either.
Damn skippy. This is my biggest problem with the movements. Nobody did care until a few whiners started whining, and some white guilt ridden idiots jumped on the injustice bandwagon.

Most people play games to do things they can't do in real life, and since most people have real relationships they don't need them shoehorned into their video games. I want to save the galaxy, not tiptoe around a conversation to get into some polygonal pants.

If people want games like that by all means buy them, but don't treat the rest of the industry like it's behind the times or needs to conform...

Part of the reason I started going to /vr/ more than /v/... People here just wanna play good games, man.

>>1995530
Yes, agree especially on the last part.
I'm kind of tired of seeing the amount of emotional blackmail that occurs actually, namely people will say you're various stripes of "ist" if you don't make things how these offended-by-design backseat drivers want them to be made.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comics_Code_Authority

The similarities between these guys and the Comics Code Authority of old are striking.....or a cult threatening social ostracism to it's members.

/v/ pls leave, forever

>>1995380
bump

>>1995549
If you raise these issues, don't act frustrated and emotional when things don't go your way.

This should be a place for doom, not your own personal sjw echo chamber.

>>1995552

no idea, sorry. Those who strive for Doom Alpha/Doom Bible gameplay changes end up going all out with a full project and...well, you know the rest

>>1995553
>doesn't want political shit on a VIDEO GAMES board
>HURR HURR UR LE SJW LOL XD


>>>/v/

>>1995556
The only person talking irrationally is yourself, how aren't you what I described? Somebody else raises a contentious issue, you hear something you don't like, you make a tryhard effort at being the thought police and are called out on it.

Rinse, repeat.

Go to /b/ or something if you want to shitpost endlessly.

http://forum.zdoom.org/viewtopic.php?f=19&t=46787&start=45#p787503

>donutsteele w/ NAZIS

nice

finish the job, mod

He's deleted your posts, take the hint man.

>>1995568
He should finish the job and delete the rest of these posts, like I said.

>>1995380
apart from MBF's Doom Beta emulation i have no idea

>>1995573
>like I said

You think you're in charge?
Are you the mods boss?

>>1995578
BANE?

Doomshits

>>>/vg/

Piss off silly casual fucktard doomshits.

this board needs doomshits like it needs an asshole on its elbow

>>>/vg/

>>1995582
>>1995591

>4 minutes between posts

First post got ignored so he makes another...should have known, the guy who comes in here and makes /vg/ trollposts is also an sjw with an axe to grind.

>>1995596
Actually, he's the type of person to infect a video game thread with griping about "SJW"s to begin with.

>>1995596
>ablooabloobloo
;_; doombabby sad? awwww

>>1995596
And now you've replied to both. Well done.

>>1995601
I spose you'll try the "both sides" rhetoric and we'll all have to accept that.

>>1995602
Plenty of reason to be glad for an impending ban.

>>1994290
Looking over the updates isn't it an older OpenGL version that just has "elements" of 4.0 in it?

I haven't updated because my computer is a toaster too but perhaps people are just overreacting?

Whats annoying though is that because this decision is so stupid, GZ might well just get all pissy if people say to him it's stupid.

Some of the stuff he's turned down....

>>1995607
>b&
>doombabby fresh from reddit can't even reset his IP
video gaems are srs bizness

>>1995626
it wants opengl 3.0 as far as i can tell

i'd just like to remind readers that other engines exist, gzdoom is not the only doom engine

>>1995630
Well..........3.0 I could do I guess...but I'm getting a new job soon and all I'll have is a laptop.

(a HP EliteBook 8540p I'm hoping).

I'd want to mod doom in my spare time and this update really throws a wrench in all that if I can't OpenGL on it.

I want to make maps, yoh.

>>1995634
Look pal...I aint going back to Doomsday.

You can't make me.

>>1995635
Does anybody even play your guys' shitty amateur mods? Like what, five jerkoffs itt tops?

>>1995635
you don't need gzdoom if all you want to do is make maps.

>>1995636
i suggest glboom+

>>1995635
dont bother m8
your mods will fucking suck worse than your life

>>1995642
>>1995637
Are you hoping for a mod ban because you're too weak willed to just stop coming here on your own?

>>1995647
lol m8
see this yea >>1995629
b& means fuck all
go home
>>>/r/eddit

>>1995638
i'll check that out, but gzdoom is there for if you want to include not only opengl features, but zdoom features too

>>1995637
>>1995642
reported

>>1995647
just report him please

>>1995651
>reported
oh noezzzzz

>>1995634

we used chocodoom and even chocorenderlimits at some extent for 200minvr, I don't know what the hell you're trying to >imply

>>1995650
>b& means fuck all

I wish the mod could say which posts in the whole thread are yours, just so we know who shitposts when he doesn't get his way.

>>1995659
>implying I'm a regular of this cancerous circle jerk
ahahahahaa

>>1995651
you don't need zdoom features if all you want to make are maps

>>1995659
STOP GIVING HIM ATTENTION YOU FUCKING RETARD

>>1995662
I see what you're saying man, I do......we can still make things.

It's just that some things would be limited, sa'll I'm saying.

Daily reminder that Doomshits are the worst thing that ever happened to Doom and are an absolute shithole bane on its legacy.

>>1995662
clarification: you need zdoom features if you are doing scripting and whatnot but i don't count that as mapping.

>>1995663
OKAY, I WAS JUST WONDERING

>>1995667
Clarification: you're a faggot

>>1995657
many people seem to be posting about how the sky is falling because gzdoom no longer works for them. i am merely reminding them that many other engines exist. frankly i think the attitude that gzdoom is the only doom engine is insulting.

by the way, i know all about 200minvr, i compiled it :)

>>1995673

it's cool rjy, you can stop being the special snowflake of /doom/ because you're literally the ONLY purist.

dear god you sometimes

>>1995673

It's not the only Doom engine, but for gameplay mods it's probably the best engine.
For maps there's probably a ton of different, better options, but for gameplay mods there's really only 3DGE and the ZDoom variants.

Ouch

that gotta hurt

>>1992202
>>1992224
>>1992241
What's wrong with wanting Doom to play like Doom? I think the Zdoom community spiraled into insanity a long time ago.

Hey, sorry to be a bother but where do I download the good version of GZDoom?

>>1995659
We already know he samefags constantly, from what the hops on #4chan said.
Usually petty much all doomshits or doombabbies posts are his.

>>1995684

http://devbuilds.drdteam.org/gzdoom/

The last 1.9 build.

>>1995683
Look man.....I just want a room over a room...

>>1995676
haha. i don't consider myself a purist. my preferred engine is a custom build of prboom with several non-purist features such as a 32bpp renderer, and i am all for huge maps that break all the original rendering limits.

Couldn't you just use ZDoom? I think the software renderer supports floor-over-floor now, but I recall it looking a tad buggy.

>>1995682
>projecting his buttpain
how cute ;)
nope, I'm still here kiddo

>>1995683
>What's wrong with wanting Doom to play like Doom?

Nothing; the problem comes when you try to force YOUR way to play Doom as THE way to play Doom (or you want to act smug as shit about how YOU play Doom...cough cough, watch out for the rocks! ;-)

Because there is NO proper way to play Doom and that's one of the only objectively truth about Doom. You can feel free to enjoy it while playing with particle enhancing effects out of the ass on a LCD screen, or you want to play on a full 90's rig you built yourself

>>1995693

ZDoom can't display 3d floors properly, that's why GZDoom exists

>>1995679
i can only slightly argue with that (i will also claim eternity is a viable choice for gameplay mods, but it has no opengl renderer) but the original poster said he was only interested in making maps.

>>1995676

apply cold water, etc.

>>1995693

For most mods, yes, ZDoom would work perfectly. With mods that are emphatic on 3D floors, dynamic lighting, and other graphical effects, though, ZDoom wouldn't work at all.
So if someone attempted lighting-specific stuff such as Buttpain, Lasting Light, or Sneaky Doom, that'd pretty much be going for a very tiny audience.

>>1995685
>implying I'm the only one who shits on these shitty threads
whatever helps you sleep at night son