/vr/ - Retro Games

Duke 64 or Doom 64? I'm about to dig out my 64 and get some new cables and I wanna give one of these games a shot.

===NEWS===

Doom 2 is 20 years old today. In celebration, some guy on Doomworld released a megawad: http://www.doomworld.com/vb/wads-mods/69383-doom-2-20th-anniversary-map-pack/

Some dork's been working on a site for us to replace the old, shitty one! Will this one thrive or will it flop as well? http://万板.縮.jp/

Got an itch for realism? Shattered Tranquility is a super-early WIP aiming for slightly more realistic weapons and weapon behaviors. http://forum.zdoom.org/viewtopic.php?f=19&t=46650

Here's a music stream that only plays Doom music, 24/7; feel free to listen if you're interested http://liquiddoom.net/

We've been featured on Doomworld! Well, sort of. /newstuff Chronicles gave 200 Minutes of /vr/ a pretty favorable review. http://doomworld.com/php/topstory.php?id=4198

"Ulti Doom" is yet another take on Doom 3 weapons/enemies in Doom, but Skornedemon's known to have made some pretty impressive stuff before. Will this succeed? http://forum.zdoom.org/viewtopic.php?f=19&t=46675

One of our own has just replaced a beta of his megawad. Give it a shot and let him know what you think! http://forum.zdoom.org/viewtopic.php?f=19&t=46676

GMOTA just updated to version 0.9.5. New features include golden boners, imp replacements, and new blood. Check it out below.

===POPULAR MODS===

/vr/:
200 Minutes of /vr/: http://www.doomworld.com/idgames/?id=17781
GMOTA: http://forum.zdoom.org/viewtopic.php?p=742401
HDoom: http://www.best-ever.org/download?file=m12-hdoom-techdemo5.pk3
Metroid Dreadnought: http://zandronum.com/forum/showthread.php?tid=4561
Cyberpunk Shootdown: https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/48332341/cyberpunkshootdown-v4.2.pk3

Other:
Doom RPG: http://forum.zdoom.org/viewtopic.php?f=19&t=33292
DoomRL Arsenal: http://forum.zdoom.org/viewtopic.php?t=37044
Hideous Destructor: http://forum.zdoom.org/viewtopic.php?t=12973
Hocus Doom: http://forum.zdoom.org/viewtopic.php?t=45804

Got something news-worthy? Reply to this post, or it'll likely be missed.

>>1975684
Doom 64.

>>1975697
just wondering, what do you guys think about doom reborn?

Is spritenoob still around with us?

>>1975620
>>1975680
Wait, so does it or does it not affect jumping and other physics?

>>1975705
>doom reborn

Never had a good experience with people trying to put old fashion Doom on III's engine. They're fun for trippy backwards nostalgia factor, but that's about it.

That said, haven't tried Doom Reborn. What makes it any different than the other map remakes?

>>1975728
well i haven't played it i haven't downloaded D3 yet but it has custom models

Patiently waiting for news on Cyberpunk Shootdown.

Is there any way i can make Zdoom load stuff like the nightmare difficulty confirmation screen or a custom "a secret is revealed" sound from a custom wad/pk3? those two i mentioned are inside Zdoom's own .pk3

>>1975812
I meant confirmation text, not screen. I think i answered my own question though

>>1974405
Do i have to make a .lmp file of it or plain ol png will do?

Happy birthday doom.

>>1975852
it isn't doom's birthday, it's doom 2's

and frankly i don't think we should celebrate doom 2's birthday

the level design is uninspired, the main selling point was the ssg which completely fucked weapons balance (why use anything but the ssg except for gimmick stages like map30)

new enemies were cool at the time though i can't fault that

>>1975687
>Doom 2 is 20 years old today. In celebration, some guy on Doomworld released a megawad: http://www.doomworld.com/vb/wads-mods/69383-doom-2-20th-anniversary-map-pack/

The DL link doesn't seem to be working. anyone have it?

>>1975869

We should celebrate Doom 2. It's the foundation for so many mods it's not even funny, anon.

Celebrate Doom 1's level design and balance

Celebrate Doom 2's enemies and modding flexibility

>>1975869
I'm actually getting tired of seeing this every time something about Doom 2 is posted. We know. Level design is bad and SSG is overpowered (though wouldn't be if the levels were better designed - so really it's just some kinda shitty level design). Don't need to see it every time, or treat it like some black sheep we mustn't speak of. It's added a lot to keep the community alive and that's good enough. And the new monsters more than made up for any of its shortcomings.

>>1975878
Yeh.

Gonna host a vanilla-settings DM server for the 20th anniversary. Mapset suggestions are welcome.

>Pretty good at UV
>Decide to try playing Nightmare
>Get completely massacred by sargents
What strategies do you guys use to kill them? Trying to shoot them before they can shoot you isn't working so well.

>>1975903
Machinegun them until you can run past them. Don't bother trying to kill anything unless you need to in Nightmare.

>>1975903
>>1975907
stunlock is what I was trying to say, really.

>>1975903
>What strategies do you guys use to kill them?

You don't.

Just run.

>>1975907
I haven't been able to get the machine gun. I can't get past level three.

>>1975901
If I don't get any suggestions, I'm gonna use Dwango 5. I'm sure nobody wants that, right? Right?

>>1975901
>>1975919
why not use the mappack that was released for the occasion? is it not multiplayer compatible?

>>1975936
The one in the news post?
It's not a DM set, is it?

>>1975940
oh, DM...
sorry, didn't notice that, it's not
blah, i'll take it as a sign that i'm too tired to play anyway

>>1975901
I'd say add vrskins but I know a lot of people hate skins, especially in DM.

>>1975903
Nightmare is where you kind of stop going for 100% kill runs because it's pointless, it becomes more of a speedrun thing. Nothing stopping you from going for more kills though.

>>1975956
Skins aren't meant to be loaded on the server side, anyway. You're supposed to put them in the skins folder. That's why the skins folder exists in the first place.

>>1975901
so how's that server coming

I feel like there aren't enough Doomguy comics in these threads

>>1976023

I miss doombro.

>>1976004
It's up and ready to be played.

:: [BE] Montreal :: /vr/ Doom 2 20th anniversary party server!
password: whoops

>>1976037
Dang, you guys weren't kidding about dwango 5 being awful.

>>1976051
The only map in dwango 5 that was good was map01
but then again that could be because I used to love duel

>>1976051
If someone had suggested something else, I would've hosted it! But apparently there aren't any good DM sets that play by vanilla rules, or there are and nobody knows of them, or the people who know of them just didn't want to speak up because ?????

>>1976037
Here's a Doom/Doom 2 server, for anyone who wants to co-op tonight!

:: [BE] Montreal :: Presidential Campaign /// Samsara - Survival on Doom and Doom II with 5x Monsters

>>1976037
>one player
>>1976112
>seven players
And then you guys get all defensive when someone says you don't play DM.

>>1976141
I was gonna join, but I got real busy. I usually only play deathmatch with you guys anymore anyway. Got real sick of Survival and slaughterfests. Least interesting game modes imo.

anyone know who made the Synas and Seenas skins in Skulltag?

http://www.skulltag.com/stmanual/credits.html is incomplete

>>1976203
Yeah, I always get sick of waiting for everyone to die or the level to end.

You know what sucks in GMOTA?

Finding the same subweapon twice

Let's make that not suck.

>>1976258
oh boy this is going to become a bullethell

>>1976258
>picking up the same weapon twice upgrades it a la go go ackman 3
hell. yes.

>>1976258
Ok, so what happens after 2 then?

>>1976283
you gain cho aniki wingmen

>>1976283

Anon please I gotta draw the line somewhere.

>>1976141
.We played a whole bunch of Samsara DM the last couple of days.

Thanks ACS

Thanks SLADE

>>1976412
You can't see the text in the box?

>>1976417

It's an error message with no error

>>1976419
It's there plain as day. Are you colorblind or something?

>>1976421

Yes that's fucking hilarious anon. Nice one.

>>1976427
Sorry I couldn't resist.

>>1976431

I'm not fucking laughing. This shit brings my piss to a boil.

>>1976432
:(

Okay I'm good and we got this shit back on track.

also no the POW system won't affect item crashes because item crashes are fucking nuts as is.

PRO MODE: ENGAGED

MLG AS FUCK

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6sGN894PdEU

Holy fuck, this shit is HILARIOUS, look at the bizarre ultraviolence and everything.
Has anyone made a N.A.R.C Total Conversion?

>>1976552

>N.A.R.C.

This game is fucking hilarious, remember kids, drugs are bad, so scatter the druggies across seven blocks with your rocket launcher!

>>1976552
>Krak Stop
FUCKING KRAK STOP!

>>1976552

we might need a sound rip up in here

>>1975869
Doom 2 was great. The levels weren't thematically as good as doom 1 imho but had impressive gameplay and layouts in my opinion

>>1976591
>yfw the NES version is censored to "KWAK STOP"

>>1976552
Here's a Narc clone

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HDvqdPq5vL0

I'm trying to think of a visual element I can add to POW subweapons and I can't think anything. I'd use translation but my colorblindness really gimps me on that, and I feel like I should add SOMETHING to show players have got a power up.

Any ideas?

>>1976679
a slight glow?

>>1976684

That's what I'd love, just like an aura or glow around them but that's not possible due to limits.

I could always just make them blink on and off rapidly using bright but that feels really cheap

>>1976685
well in the HUD you could probably just add a white/blue aura thing, and are you sure you can't attach a small light to the projectile (a bit like the megasphere one) as you're using GZdoom anyway

>>1976690

You mean like a GLDef? cus yeah I could do that, but I feel that'd be inconsistent seeing as nothing else uses lights, plus that'd take a bit of a hit on performance, AND I doubt it'd be that strikingly noticeable.

I already got the HUD element planned though, you can see in the webms I posted above there's a POW icon next to subweapons

>>1976694
oh, right.

well, how about a small trail of... mana dust?

>>1976695

See I can't do that because the hatchet's animated, so you'd wind up with little poots of dust if I did that rather than a smooth trail like the POW lance.

I might have to bite the bullet and do without a visual effect. I'm thinking of a POW effect for the hatchet right now anyway, and I was thinking of you throw two hatchets, and one of them is bigger and rebounds off monsters whereas the normal size one doesn't

Okay how this

>>1975869
Doom 2's gameplay blows the first's out of the water. Stop parroting so hard you silly tryhard.

>>1976762
>duum too's gameplay is beter guise
>yu git sooper shooty
>muh monsters
>muh shottyguns
>muh gameplay

Doom 1 was a better horror game, because it had actual atmosphere. You could tell what a room was supposed to be.
Doom 2 felt like an arcade game more than anything, with a cheap, high-power weapon that you'd probably get after dying if you could pump extra coins in to resurrect. Instead of using the enemy variety to build tension just like the last game, they used it to make the first slaughtermaps.

>>1976840
Yeah and it was better for it. Keep crying faggot.

>>1976421
>>1976431
Anon that was not okay.

>>1976291
2 is fine. Gradius lets you upgrade your double/laser twice and then that's it.
You could also stop at 3 ala CV's II/III runes

>>1976679
GMOTA guy, do you want me to make you a chart that helps you with your palette? Like labels and shit?

>>1976713
Sorry if this was said already, just been out of it for a while. But looking at these is giving me the idea of same sub attacks stacking as you pick more up.

Is that a thing?

See if this doesn't help you out, GMOTA guy

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d9S8rHM47dY

>>1976947
>gif no move
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

Post waifus

>>1976957
88alice

Whats that one really hard .wad with a shit ton of enemies called again?

i'm drawing a blank and my friend was asking about some cool doom maps

>>1976975
nuts.wad

>>1976981
thanks

>>1976975
Sunder
Slaughterfest2011 / 2012
Phmlspd
Newgothic Movement 1
ESPv2
Chillax

>>1976947
This expands dong. Can't wait for the official release.

>>1976947
Okay I kinda had wrote it off due to disliking the characters design, but all of that video made me interested

>>1976762
>Doom 2's gameplay blows the first's out of the water
I disagree.
I don't hate Doom 2, not at all, the first 10 levels are great even, but the levels are just not as good as in Doom 1, they just don't have the same appeal and atmosphere as Doom 1.

But I love the supershotgun, I love the new monsters, the new textures, the new music, they've been a fantastic resource for mappers for all these years.

>>1976947
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d9S8rHM47dY
why does the player character have an american accent. it's like i'm watching a shitty dub. please get someone with a really thick asian accent to voice act for you. thanks.

>>1977034
continued: basically this is your voice acting http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WAefGu7EIOk

>>1977041
>continued
Are you new here? I already struggle to fathom someone getting this bothered about voice acting for a Doom wad as it is, but this is just icing on the cake.

>>1977034
"shitty dub" is probably the most appropriate and funniest choice given the style of the mod. I love it.

Trying to play Blood with bMouse using this command:
>BMOUSE.EXE LAUNCH BLOOD.EXE
Whenever I launch it, I get this on the command line:

>src\blood.cpp(1551): Invalid argument: -control
>
>returned from BLOOD.EXE

Can't find anything about fixing this. Any ideas, /vr/oom?

>>1977086
Try
>bmouse launch blood.exe

Not sure if that changes anything but I remember having issues until I did that.

Are you sure bmouse is in the folder?

>>1977098
Pretty damn sure.

And that isn't working.

>>1977103
Where are you putting the command line? If you're using the dosbox version, you should put it in the conf file. For instance in the GoG dosbox verison, open dosboxblood_single.conf and replaced "blood.exe" by "bmouse launch blood.exe"

>>1977106
I'm running the original version, with DosBox.

>>1976840
The SSG ruined multiplayer, too.

Doom 1 felt sorta like Quake in that each weapon had checks and balances, and were useful for different situations.

Doom 2's SSG is so stupidly overpowered that it makes other weapons completely irrelevant. Just close the distance and blast your opponent into next Tuesday.

Terminus best zdoomer

>>1977008

Kids call it swag
Men call it swag

>>1976947

So, doom wad that replaces default reverent sound with RAR when?

>>1977182
No one plays Doom 1 MP, because it's shit. There are like two good duel maps for it and I only remember nyssy from the top of my head. Good players (call them elite nolife trnyfags if you wish) generally prefer Doom 2 over the OG, because it's much more fun.

Also you have no idea what you are talking about re: SSG. It's necessary against the slew of mid-tier monsters D2 introduced. Only scaredy corner snipers can defend SG over SSG.

>>1971030
Reposting this on the off chance the map author didn't see this the first time:
I played through it. They're nice maps, and detailed enough that it felt like I was playing a build engine game instead of idtech1, but not overly detailed like some maps are. I didn't mind the gameplay tweaks, except for the lost souls dodging rockets like they're fucking Neo. I wouldn't mind playing a couple more maps like this.

There are a few mis-aligned textures on the second map, as well as the exit on the first. See attached images 1-3 for examples. The circled imp in pic 4 is too close to the torch and can't move (UV difficulty), so you might want to move him just a little bit. The 5th image show a texture oddity when you raise the nukage after the archvile appears - you might want to change that to nukage fall texture or else alter the geometry to add a lip or slightly raised pipe or something to separate the red area from the green. Finally, the last picture (6) shows how the fence texture just cuts off. This looks odd, and would look better with a small post attached to it. Overall, a pretty solid pair of maps.


Also, the sliding glass doors on the first map make a silly sounding dripping sound that doesn't quite fit the tone of the map. I think a change might be an improvement.

Neat.

So I'm trying to play hideous destructor but I just don't get how you're supposed to heal yourself.
Supposedly I fire with the medical weapon slot (8 I think it is) but it's not doing shit all and then I bleed out.
I get it's supposed to be hard but it's pretty much completely impossible to never get hit.

>>1977296
Yeah I never quite got the grasp of the medkit. But it heals over time, or something.

>>1977296
No, the "weapon" on slot 8 is for healing your buddies in co-op. You heal by using the medikits and stimpacks in your inventory. Use medikits to stop bleeding, then stimpacks to restore lost HP. Do not use stimpacks when bleeding, or you'll just make things worse. You can also use berserk packs to recover a lot of health very quickly, but when it wears off you'll probably have a whole lot more wounds than you started with. Don't use a second berserk pack until the first one wears off, or you'll kill yourself.

What's down here

>>1977312
Uhhhhh

Wad is Bloody Steel

>>1977297
>>1977304
Ugh, I don't get it and I don't like it.
You move like your feet are tied together and I just can't understand how this UI works.
I like the idea of it all being really hard and stuff but it's just not fun and it's incredibly hard to even move around.
I walk faster IRL than the sprint function in this game moves.

>>1976947
Why does the shotgun seem to flicker when you have the sword out?

>>1977319
>I walk faster IRL than the sprint function in this game moves.
You aren't wearing three suits of armor, lugging around tons of medical supplies, and carrying upwards of 10 weapons, including a rocket launcher, a minigun, a cannon, bigass experimental weaponry, two assault rifles, two shotguns, two pistols, an SMG and ammo for all of them.

>>1977331
Neither is the guy I'm playing in HD, he's carrying a shotgun, a pistol, one suit of armour and 4 medkits.
If I were being attacked by demons I'd certainly up the pace a little.

>>1976947
Is it just me, or is the voice actor Runka chunk?

>>1977330

That's taking damage. Donutsteele uses an old arcade-y style health system where you have X tokens and one hit = one token taken.

WHOOPS

>>1977369
Can't wait for co-op severs. A whole server going going WHOOPS WHOOPS while spamming the Omen simultaneously would be a great sight.

>keep accidentally overtwriting saves of parallel games because of the cursor jumping over them when I'm selecting another save with the keyboard
now I have to starts btsex ep 2 from the start thanks zdoom

>>1977378
I just cant wait for co-op servers in general. I've never liked survival.

>inb4 the usual bullcrap

I'm going to try and knock together a list of .wads that are perfect for use with Hideous Destructor, besides Vaecrius's list.

>>1977369
>>1977378
will this lead to yuri

>>1977398
with butch haruhi up there? for sure

>>1977405
She looks more like rapist Recette, tbh.

>>1977408
More Fire Mario to me.

Bloody Steel is neat.

>>1977331
>>1977350
DooM is stupid about speed. The rockets in vanilla are apparently going 60 miles per hour in that engine.

>>1975683
Guys, I want to play both multiplayer and single player doom.

What would you say is like the top 3 wads ever made for single player, the top 3 mods and what should I use for multiplayer? Theres a load of options like skulltag and zandronum etc, just not sure which has the best features and community.

>>1977454
For singleplayer, do you want evel .wads, or gameplay wads

>>1977469
*level. Fucking keyboard.

>>1977454

Take your pick from these.
"Top 3 ever" is impossible.

>>1977469
Well, either or I guess. Theres a metroid one I saw that looked fucking amazing, but so many of those look very unfinished. I would want something that was consistent in quality and complete.

>>1977494
That's a garbage infographic. Missing tons of amazing and very well known megawads like eternal doom, hell revealed etc

>>1977515
>eternal doom
>hell revealed
>amazing

>>1977526
Yep, and memeto mori 1&2 and requiem. All missing. I've been browsing doomworld for around 12 years now. The guys there know a thing or to about what's good and what's not.

>>1977454
Wait, are you asking which SOURCEPORT you want?

>>1977537
in order I asked for wads, mods and then best MP sourceport.

>>1977505
Alright.

Aeons of Death basically throws together most non-military FPS weapons and enemies into one wad. If you ever wanted to destroy giant sumo wrestling demons with pump-action energy rocket launchers and kill Nazi cultists with a volcano cannon, this is the wad for you.

Russian Overkill offers 20+ cuhraaazy weapons. It's mostly for stress relief or beating up hard-ass wads.

As for level wads:

Winter's Fury really pushes the limits of GZDooM. It's beautiful and very arcade-y.

Unloved is like nearly every surreal/psychological horror film + DooM. People who say action + horror isn't a good fit are morons. It's super atmospheric and creepy, while offering you tons of demons to blast.

What are your top 5 user-made megawads?

>>1977275
Thanks for the input!

>They're nice maps, and detailed enough that it felt like I was playing a build engine game instead of idtech1, but not overly detailed like some maps are.

That's pretty much the kind of look I was aiming for. Details are nice but I'm not a big fan of overly cluttered map design.

>I didn't mind the gameplay tweaks, except for the lost souls dodging rockets like they're fucking Neo.

They also have a lot less health to make up for it, makes fighting Pain Elementals a lot more fun imo. I'll try to make their movement a bit less spastic though.

>Also, the sliding glass doors on the first map make a silly sounding dripping sound that doesn't quite fit the tone of the map. I think a change might be an improvement.

Yeah, that's just a placeholder I used to test custom sounds, it'll get replaced eventually. I'm planning to add more ambient sounds to map 2 as well.

What do you like to listen to when you're Dooming?

For the original games (not TNT as iirc that uses custom made unprofessional shit), I'm fine with the original music. But I fucking hate most user made music. It sounds like fucking acid being thrown into my ears.

So... I put on some fucking SLAYER.

I don't listen to much metal anymore but my god SLAYER goes with DOOM like peanut butter with jelly.

In particular, I like their early discography. Hell Awaits, Reign in Blood, Seasons in the Abyss, Show No Mercy/Haunting the Chapel, South of Heaven.

God I love this shit. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wvHsX2lSW64

>>1977531
Yeah, sure. But let's look at the age of the wads in the pic and the ones you're suggesting to add. You can also make "Doom Classics" pic or whatever.
Also, considering DW has reputation here as That One Damn Fortress of Vanilla I wouldn't call them the right guys that I should always listen to. Even though they're staples in Doom community and other unrelated things, I doubt we have the same preferences regarding mapping design, detailing and gameplay decisions.

>>1977592

same here

>>1977598
True, but I haven't seen anything of real quality being talked about except alien vendetta

This month can we have a /vr/ doom spookathon featuring all of our favorite spooky wads?

I need this in my life.

>>1977592
I put Deicide on while playing hell themed wads.

>>1976925

I was thinking about giving players SOMETHING if they pick up another subweapon after getting a POW

Maybe an inventory item that allows you to drop a random subweapon. I don't want to just give the player ammo and I think upgrading subweapons even more would be silly

>>1977592

>SLAYER goes with DOOM like peanut butter with jelly.

a lot of doom's original music was inspired by/adapted from 80's speed metal

shit's fuken baller yo

>>1977618
Well, you gotta start with the classics, anon...

>>1977515

Okay, tell us what megawads we're missing.
And then tell us what other wads should fill in the void of others to keep the categories equal.

>>1977642
>Okay, tell us what megawads we're missing
I just told you about 8

>>1977612
What an interesting turn of events. I guess "Doom Classics" pic wouldn't hurt since they're being mentioned in the very first replies to anyone asking for moar wads in the thread, anyway. The "real quality wads" are rea-a-a-ally subjective to every other anonymous poster here so I won't bring up that topic because it's pointless.
>>1977592
I don't have any specific preference and just have a huge playlists with song styles varying from this:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KHOimpa1fuU
to this:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UEDZ9bn86Bo
to this:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N1YXcD0njts
to this:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WhQvgHM_Nd4
In general it just have to somehow fit the shit happening on screen and it's fine.

>>1977643
>And then tell us what other wads should fill in the void of others to keep the categories equal.

>>1977643
Okay, now come up with 8 levelsets, 8 gameplay mods, 8 multiplayer mapsets, 8 multiplayer gameplay mods, 8 of /vr/'s projects.
Unless you wanted it to be horrendously ugly with one section bloating the fuck out of the chart.

>>1977043
are we not allowed to be bothered by bad things in doom wads

are we automatically new if we don't silently accept bad things because doom has bad things it's doom modding doom modders we always have bad things lol quality? no no doom. DOOM. we have doom not quality.

>>1977651
Someone help me restrain this man! HE'S ESCAPED THE LOONY BIN!

:: [BE] Montreal :: /vr/ & Friends DYNAMITE DM

Come and play, nerds

>>1977292
Why is everyone on this thread so adicted to post pics without sharing the sauce?

>>1977627
yeah, including Slayer songs themselves breh

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r3y1G-BNTv0

>>1977720
I shared it a few posts down, wad is called Bloody Steel.

So what would make the best blend of Doom, Heretek and Hexen monsters?

There's some odd Russian posters all over the place in Bloody Steel. I assume this is just some kinda work safety one, but there's some other ones in here I'm not sure of.

Overall though, the wad is pretty fun. It's from one of the Russian guys who did maps for Whitemare 2.

>>1977651
At risk of falling for bait:

I am new here. This is my first post in a Doom thread. And you are automatically new if you can't punctuate correctly. "We have doom not quality" - that's a little difficult to understand.

The reason that people are angry at you amounts to a few things:

1: Why post "continued"? Why not just put your whole argument in one post? It honestly makes you look like you sorta sent the reply without really thinking about it - which doesn't really reflect well on you.

2. The character has an American accent because the game was made in America, presumably. Casablanca, despite being set in France, had no french accents, because it would've been grating to the ears.

3. Asian accents never sound good unless you're trying to create a stupid stereotype. There are good dubs, and - I say this as an idiotic weeaboo - none of them use thick Asian accents. Your argument might be valid if you suggested she spoke in Japanese; but the only work that were everyone had Asian accents was Mega Man 8. And that dub sucked.

3. Voice actors with any degree of talent are pretty hard to get. I would agree that we shouldn't accept bad things because refusing any content is bad; but this isn't actually objectively bad. That's just an opinion.

4. What makes you think /vr/ accepts this "because doom has bad things"? /vr/ has called out tons of wads on bullshit. When /vr/ sees a bad wad, they tear it apart. The fact that they're not doing that for this implies that most people probably like it to some degree.

5. Nobody wants this again: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=phitdexy3YI

In conclusion: if it annoys you so much, ask for an option to turn voices off, and please try to use better grammar.

My personal opinion is that it looks great, and the voices are entertaining, but I can understand how some people might not like them. To ask for a full re-dub? To imply /vr/ and the Doom community accepts bad things "because it's Doom"? See image.

>>1977851
Lo Wang's quotes were great though..

>>1977854
>unless you're trying to create a stupid stereotype

>>1977851
>Nobody wants this again
talk for yourself

and as demonsteele parodies old anime (and power metal, but that's not the point), those all had terrible dubs, so that's the point
i'll never forget the french city hunter dub

>>1976947

Hae-lin a cute

>>1977867

Also video games of that era had pretty cheesy voice acting.

That and I think the voice actress sounds cute and fits hae-Lin

>>1977454
>the top 3 wads ever made for single player

Doom
Doom 2
Plutonia

>>1977454
>the top 3 mods

-fast
UV with respawn
Pistol Start Options

>>1977454
>what should I use for multiplayer?

Zandronum. In short, Skulltag is basically an older ver. of Zandro

>>1977854
>>1977860
now that i think about it, a black hero is missing to the build engine

something like... a black dynamite game

>>1977884
Who is the voice actor anyway?

>>1977973
The voice kinda reminds me of Marty Kirra's girlfriend, who's doing voicework for his mod.

>>1977987
She ain't half bad. She should probably go pro.

>>1977973
>>1977987
Credits file says Adoxographist, who definitely isn't Marty's girlfriend.

Does anybody else find the music in Duke Nukem nowhere near as good as the music in Doom?

It was all made by the same guy but still...it's nowhere near as captivating except for perhaps two songs.

I'm going to be blunt.

I don't post on /vr/ like, at all.

Is it kosher to ask for commercial wads like for doom or hexen?

>>1978036
You can find a link to download them on the pastebin.

>>1978040
Ok cool thanks.

Would anyone here be interested in playing an Unreal-esque exploration fps? But a little more open exploration. Like a mix between zelda/unreal? Just an idea I started to work on passively.

>>1978040
>>1978043
I hate to sound like a llama, but, none of the links are working.

>>1978035
I think the music in Doom 64 is boring and monotonous outside of the game, and I wish that Liquid Doom would stop playing it.

>>1978045
You using UDMF format?

Has the most features to get the best out of exploring, like swimming around, room over room, colored lighting and a heap of other cool sector and line effects.

>>1978054
https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/48332341/iwads.zip

>>1978063
Yeah, it's got a time and place......it adds to the mood of skulking around gloomy corridors but you can't really rock out to it on your own.

>>1978067
Killer, thanks.

:: [BE] Montreal :: DemonSteele - Kawaii As Shit

sup bitches let's get sugoi

>>1977851
Bro, Lo Wang is great for his character. Isn;t the game supposed to be a parody of all them asian films of it's time?

>>1978065
Built in unreal engine 4. I mean a whole new retro (haha - fuck that term) style game...

Just a thought. Wanted to bounce it off people who give a shit.

>>1977182
i know im late but
>quake
>checks and balances with weapons
wot? it had a fucking super shotgun too that immediately made the former useless. it had a super nailgun that immediately made the former useless. there were only three weapons people would use online, the rl, gl, and lg. it was no fucking different than doom or doom 2.
>mg makes pistol useless
>brass knuckles make chainsaw useless (seriously what the fuck)
>only things people use are the pg, rl, and ssg

>>1978086

I give a shit. Give us boomerang and hookshot style items and I'll be really hyped

Anybody have the "huhuh what a mess" Duke picture?

>>1978089

Brass knuckles?

>>1978102
I was actually thinking about the hookshot in particular. Probably a late level item, and would only work on certain surfaces (like rope arrows in thief... or... like hte hookshot I guess).

>>1978086
That sounds like a cool idea but especially with the tech in UE4 you'd have quite a bit of detail to put in........perhaps make the first level as a sort of tech demo, like when you get off the crashed ship...that part.

>>1978080
He's a parody of kung fu movies which had english dubs.

>>1978107
Whatever you would like to call it. the spiked fists, your starter infinite weapon. Berserker, as well as the fact that you aren't pulled into your enemies, are what make it superior to the chainsaw, something you would pick up later in the game.

>>1978110
I haven't worked out a plot at all. Gonna do some engine tests since I haven't worked in unreal since UT3 came out. At the moment I'm thinking going from underwater station to teleporter to alien world, then maybe to space. And building a plot off of that.

>>1978109

Aw man. Context sensitive grappling items suck

>>1978114

Oh right. Fists. Those are too slow for my liking, at least with berserk you punch really hard.

>>1978121
Well you'll still be able to grapple into enemies to skewer them. But I can't have you grappling out of maps and shit. Pretty game breaking thing.

Also it'd probably be best to have it used for getting to some "dungeons", but not others

>>1978132

As long you make it a decent combat tool. That's good

UE4 guy, what exploration pieces were you expecting?

What I remember from the original Unreal was being amazed at the huge waterfall and wide open expanses......sometimes you really don't need to spice them up with monsters, in fact monsters can sometimes detract because they're a distraction.

>>1978135
That's the idea.

To make this all more Doom related, another plan is to make the bodies "crackle" like dooms. With ribs sticking out and some ragdoll physics on the body to make it flop about a bit. As opposed to just gibbing like Quake or Unreal. So it still has some semblance of anatomy rather than just being a flying torso/leg...

>>1978137
That's the idea. In the beginning it'd be less monsters more "this is so alien" and large vistas with nooks and crannies to explore... Sometimes with monsters in them to keep you on edge. Sometimes with items/journal... logs to keep you interested.

Later areas would likely have more monsters to plow through, but with larger monsters/better items/more interesting story bits in the nooks and crannies. Sort of an escalation that never hits sluaghterfest in the slighests.

>>1975683
A strife screenshot in the OP, clearly labelled too, and no mention of strife...

>>1978194
It's obviously welcome.

It's just less popular than the other games.

>>1978210
If it's stated "doom and assorted", that doesn't help. If a thread with a strife, heretic of hexen image said "doom engine games", that would probably help focus the attention for that particular thread somewhat.

>>1978227
We also aren't engine specific, though.

>>1977437
they go 20 units per tic.

tics are well defined: they are 1/35 of a second, giving a conversion factor from tics to hours of 35*60*60. but the "real world" size of map units is up to interpretation.

my own is: the player can fit through gaps >=32 units wide. my bedroom door is two feet wide, and i estimate a large man carrying an outrageous amount of heavy ordnance would just about fit through it. therefore 32 units is 2 feet.

therefore, the conversion factor from units to miles is 16*3*1760. therefore the speed of a rocket in miles per hour is:

20 * (35*60*60) / (16*3*1760) ~= 29.8.

(incidentally the conversion factor seems very close to 1.5, i shall have to remember this instead of going through the derivation in my head every time this comes up...)

>>1978232
That's still 30 miles per hour, and normal Doomguy is running faster than that.

In HD, you're probably running at 1/6th that rate.

>>1977592
>not TNT as iirc that uses custom made unprofessional shit

>>1978230
So everything up to quake 3, heretic 2, jedi knight and so on? Okay...

>>1978067
that is a rather unnecessarily large file. it would be nice if it only contained the commercial iwads. the rest are easily available elsewhere.

>>1977851
>1: Why post "continued"?

just so you know, the author of >>1977651 is not the author of >>1977034 and >>1977041.

the latter posted "continued" simply because he - that is, i - was trying to think about what the voice acting reminded me of and it didn't come to me until after i had pressed submit the first time (4chan, of course, lacks an "edit post" feature, for better or worse).

i hope this clears up a misunderstanding.

>>1978258
They won't be discouraged. Just less likely to be expounded on. What do you think of jedi knight?

Posting moefied revenant girl who actually isn't very revenant like but whatever. Aaaa.

This is getting ridiculous

>>1975687
>HDoom: http://www.best-ever.org/download?file=m12-hdoom-techdemo5.pk3
I still think you should change this to http://hdoomguy.tumblr.com/

>>1978464

>that pinky finisher

jesus christ that's a lot of cum

>>1977648
>>1977650
>keep the catagories equal.

Do you have OCD? Are you a socialist? Are you a firm believer in affirmative action regardless of individual merit?

If not then I don't understand why you would sacrifice the utility of the infographic for the sake of balancing out every category. No. It's just a fact that there are more megawads/levels than their are multiplayer sourceports or /vr/ projects.

The bulk of the info should be useful. If it happens to be the case that it's comprised of megawads then so be it.

>>1977650
>Unless you wanted it to be horrendously ugly with one section bloating the fuck out of the chart.

Useful information > looking good.

You're an idiot if you can't see how to design it to accomodate these changes

>>1978468
>>1978467
I think there are actually enough quality items to fill out the chart with the other categories anyway. For /v/r stuff there's Gunmod, DogDoom, The Space Pirate, Demonsteele, and that's just a start.

So how much longer until tsp gets it's next bi-annual upate?

>>1978486
>bi-annual
six months, presumably...

>>1978486

Sometime after GMOTA gets Heretic/Hexen support and before Half Life 3.

>>1978503

>>1978507

lel

donald has reached a new low

I still need to think of a POW affect for the shield. The shield right now grants full invuln when blocking with it, and the item crash does that cool dash thing.

So I'm trying to think of a cool utility I can give to a POW-ed up Shield. any ideas?

>>1978424
I want that little AA skeleton on the knapsack.

>>1978445
So what's the deal with all these weapon upgrades?

I must have missed the explanation.

>>1978520
Easy mode would be to make the block a reflect.

You could make it a bash as you activate the powered mode. Maybe a short range shockwave or something that hits hard or an AoE that launches people in the front without moving you forward like the dash thing.

>>1978525

Finding two the same subweapon sucks dick and it always annoyed me. I'm addressing that with the POW system: Pick up the same subweapon twice or a POW item and get an upgraded subweapon til you either pick up something else, or leave the stage.

and actually blocking grants a reflective property right now anyway, an AOE shockwave that shoves enemies back might be cool, maybe outwards and upwards because that shit's always funny

>>1978523
it;'s one of those phone straps that's twice the size/weight of the phone it's attached to.

>>1978520
summon a minstrel to sing of your mighty deeds

it's a terrible singer and distracts all the monsters temporarily, causing them to attack the minstrel, and each other.

(naturally, the minstrel singing is a sequence of DSSKESITs played at random pitches)

>>1978514
What the fuck is your problem? Why do you keep boogeymanning? Mods and janitors banned all german proxies and even put a rangeban, same goes for the BE servers.
You do realize that its just /v/ or /b/ acting like kids?

>>1978543

That's not a bad idea, but I'll save something like that for Kuros, because I think he could do with an ability like that more than Blaz.

Plus I like the idea of a crude looking strawman throwing insults or whatever at monsters

>>1978543
>the minstrel singing is a sequence of DSSKESITs played at random pitches

>>1978548
>Mods and janitors banned all german proxies and even put a rangeban, same goes for the BE servers
bullshit

>>1978561

actually fuck that. A retarded skeleton minstrel is even better.

it's mandatory that when he dies, it's done with an explosion of bones and his lute goes flying, doing that Hanna Barbera guitar KABONG as it smashes against the floor.

>>1978086

Well, to have unreal-esque exploration and atmoshpere you need SOLID music.

Map 13 of buttsex2 was pretty fucking neat.
I like the flooding effect.

So, GMOTA Lewd Doom crossover when?

>>1978731

>>1978759
Also really fun fighting.

Dropped down the sludge pit, and then saw a bunch of revenants heading for me. I couldn't jump back up, so my instinct was to simply run through them for another place of cover, at which point I ran into a number of Mancubi, Zombies, Cacos and a Vore (arch-vile replacement), which had me promptly NOPE and turn back, choosing rather to try and drop the skellingtons with the rocketlauncher without getting to much splash damage on my clothes. And so I did.

I gotta say, I kinda love how the past few levels have had enemy setups like these leading to fantastic "OH SHIT!" moments.

>>1978754
Do we really need Mike12 jumping through even more whoops?

>>1978467
>>1978468
So your argument boils down to "fuck the chart and accommodate my liked mods".
Nah.

>>1978586
Unfortunately I'm no musician.

>>1978812
wrong pic. Can't see a damn thing past those controls...

Which mods stack best with eachother?

>>1978731
>>1978759
>>1978784
is this BTSX?

>>1978818
yes hence the "butt sex 2"

>>1978816
I feel that the aesthetics of Accessories To Murder fit absolutely great with Back To Saturn X.
Some say that Epic2 is a good fit for Nazis.wad, and I'm inclined to believe them.
Russian Overkill I hear is supposed to be fun with slaughtermaps.

>>1978818
Yes indeed.
I heard some say that it was disappointing or not as fun as part one, but so far, I think it's been just as fun.

With youtubers like PewDiePie having made Doom 3 Let's Plays, how has the Doom community not become completely oversaturated with annoying twelve-year-olds? How have we come to dodge that all-consuming bullet?

>>1978998
>The irony of this post especially with that picture
Uh. Sorry to tell you this, but the /vr/oom community really isn't far from what you're describing. At all.

>>1978998

Well, as long as people like >>1979005 are around, we haven't entirely dodged it.

>>1979012
But you ARE it m8. That's the point.

>>1978998
Good think than most of the kids are afraid of pixels.

>>1979005
I'm not saying the community's perfect at all. Like any other game community, the Doom community has its terrible aspects.

But considering the damage popular LPers have done to other games, it's a miracle they've made virtually no impact on the Doom community. Or, at least, it hasn't extended to the classic Doom games.

>>1979016
But anon, you forget the monstrosity that is Minecraft.

>>1978998
>Let's Plays, how has the Doom community not become completely oversaturated with annoying twelve-year-olds?
I think Brutal Doom saturated those levels for us already.
I don't think we'll see much more newfags until Doom 4 is out.

Although, didn't he do an LP of Ghoul's Forest? I imagine that might have brought in a few kiddies for Zandronum or something.

>>1979016
>look how kewl I am guiz I'm playing pixelated gaems in 2014 xD
>i'm liek so speshal and youneek omg xD
>if /vr/ wasn't made I'd still be playing halo all day lolzz :PP

>>1979015

Sure thing, kid.

>>1978998
/vr/oom = reddit

>>1979036
Agreed.

>>1978998

We have someone who claims to be a 28-year-old crying worse than any 12-year-old could ever muster and singlehandedly embarrassing himself more than any of the supposed reviled "doom babbies" he rails against, does that count?

>>1979054
>only one guy on /vr/ hates the constant /vr/oom circle jerk shitting up the front page
:)

>>1979031
>>if /vr/ wasn't made I'd still be playing halo all day lolzz :PP
You keep saying this, but can you actually prove that that is the case for anyone here? Has anyone ever actually said that? I'll be here all day, so take your time.

>>1979059

You seem to be seeing words that aren't there, anon.
Are you feeling all right?

>>1979054
yes, and your post is in reply to him, setting up the pins for himself to knock down in later posts.

>>1979062
Are you? Shouldn't you be in the middle /vr/oom orgy sucking each others dicks for playing a video game? :)

>>1979065
*of a

>>1979063
He can if he wants, I don't really care.
I'm just amused that for all his talk about kids and babbies, I'm older than him and yet he's still pretending his age makes him cool.
Every desperate response he makes warms my heart.

You're all faggots. Less internet tough guy posturing and more Korean girls stabbing people.

>>1979102
server where?

>>1979102
>>1979108

:: [BE] Montreal :: DemonSteele - Kawaii As Shit

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5kENuvJ2MIA

Is it just me, or does this remind anyone else of Dr. Betruger?

>>1977904
I'd play a Black Dynamite game. That movie was fucking great.

>>1979016
Don't be so sure, hipsters who like to think they get retro games can have a bad influince

>>1979298
Did you watch the animated one?
It's really good.

>>1977381
What is disable mouse on menu, Alex?

>>1978035
Only half of it was by Bobby Prince. Lee Jackson did the rest, including the theme song.

Most of the ambient-ish late E2 songs do suck ass. But E1's start and most of E3 are awesome.

>>1977381
>MAP command to get back to the level you were on
>GIVE command to get back the items you had

>>1978812
Fortunately, I am. Http://music.onslaughtsix.com

>>1979372
I liked the music for the Abyss and also Lunar Reactor.

>>1979030

>Although, didn't he do an LP of Ghoul's Forest? I imagine that might have brought in a few kiddies for Zandronum or something.

*Skulltag. And yes, whether we like it or not, back in the day it was factor for GvH to become as big as it is/was

On a more on-topic note, here's the best variant never released ever
www.youtube.com/watch?v=KCent_2q7ZE

>>1979186

That movie was SO fucking messed up. And the ending, holy shit

>>1975885
well people shit on doom3 when it accomplished way more than doom2 ever did.

http://strawpoll.me/2694253

>>1979321
I did not! I didn't even know there was an animated movie. I'll have to give it a look.

>>1979490
It's actually an animated series. Animations done by the same guys that did Boondocks.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6k0XUAfIlxA

What the hell is steelegrill saying when she does special attacks??
It sounds like shit like "bag oppu" or "blow gi"

>>1979530
The second one might be Ougi.
Which would be secret.

Which is used a lot in japanese special moves.

So I got the latest version of Demonsteele and don't seem to be able to turn on Iron Maiden anymore.

I was the input changed or something?
Or do I have to find it now?

>>1979530
>>1979560
koreafag here. she's speaking korean.
nothing really special, just 꺼져/kkeojyeo (get lost), 이거나 먹어라/igeona meog-eola (take that), 여기/yeogi (there), 떨어져라/tteol-eojyeola (fall/perish) and etc.
her transformation sequence uses 변신/byeonsin, meaning (unsurprisingly) "transform".

pronouncing is a little suspect, but for the most part it's surprisingly grammatically proper - i expected a mixed up tenses and google translate bullshit

>>1979603
Nevermind, I guess I just messing up.

I was also worried Whoops was gone for good.

>>1979604
That's cool, I like this.

>>1979604
>kkeojyeo
This is probably my favorite one she uses.

Sounds cool even though I don't understand what she's speaking.

So in Demonsteele are the iron maiden hands placeholders?

When transforming the gauntlets that start forming look much different before there ends up being just gloves.

Iron Maiden mode feels more useful too, was it buffed?

I haven't seen many guns in this mod. There's nothing but a sword, I think.

No need to add any guns, Term. This sword will do just fine.

>>1979674
That's weird, 4chan. My gamma is set to normal levels. Testing.

>Everything is Ok

thank you _zip.bat :)

>>1979674
There are lots of guns.

But they only spawn on places where weapons actually are meant to, never dropped by enemies.
By the time you get to Tricks and Traps you should have found every gun.

>>1979696
Oh, I was joking. You start with a gun, but the sword is so much fun that I haven't even bothered with them.

Though I did use the BFG.

[One more gamma test image. Only 4chan displays gamma differences. My system doesn't notice.]

>>1979696
Also, Terminus, if that's you -- the way weapons appear couldn't be better. I hope that stays just about like it is.

>>1979714
I am not Terminus, I was just explaining that there's lots of guns.

Only one I don't like is the pistol.
Feels really lackluster and has no purpose once you get anything.

I mean I get that it's a pistol and that's kind of the norm but considering how every other weapon is I would have liked to see it still be kind of useful.

>>1979656

They're placeholders, aye, and so is the pickup sprite. I threw them together at the last minute before releasing, and I'm really hoping I can get replacements for them down the line. Maybe something much more armored and bulky, to add to the weight of the punches (and emphasize that you're in armor).
I was hoping to use the RTC-3057 punching sprites (pic related), but there's only a small set of them, the readme very explicitly forbids their use, and I wasn't able to get in contact with the creators for permission. Oh well!

And yes, it was buffed quite dramatically. The energy consumed on usage was reduced, the soul reduction over time is reduced, the damage on both the attacks was buffed, the damage resistance on the armor was buffed, and all landed punches are guaranteed stuns.

I'm still not 100% happy with the defensive capabilities, but I'll have to figure something out later.

>>1979714

It will. And yeah, I'm quite proud of that as well--it took quite a bit of finagling, but I think it really sets things apart right away and lets you know what kind of ride you're in for.

>>1979723

The pistol is supposed to be the sniper weapon of the batch. Nearly-pinpoint accuracy and decent punch, for fighting enemies at a great distance away, but you're not the only one that's saying it's not too remarkable.
Should I increase its damage or RoF some?

>>1979737
Another guy about the pistol here. The damage is probably at least high enough, but I wish I could fire as fast as I could click.

It feels awful that only every other click registers. At least in vanilla Doom you can hold the button and stop worrying about it. Presently it's the worst of both worlds.

>>1979737
Well on the subject of the pistol I feel the accurate guns should be heavy hitters.

Like if that pistol was a magnum or something that would be cool.

It doesn't have to fire too fast(Sword's for rapid slashes anyways) but I think damage would be cool.

And I noticed the Iron Maiden mode being upgraded because I claimed it was useless recently and the changes are really nice.

What were you thinking for defensive capabiities though?
Just taking hits better?
Armor gauge going up?
Put up barriers at the cost of extra energy, cementing it with a defensive role by giving it a defensive ability?
Punch powers instead of slash powers?

What's the best weapon in DRLA and why is it the storm combat pistol?

>>1979746
>>1979754
RoF guy here. Damn, two completely opposite ideas. Why can't we let Term have nice things? I think I could appreciate a high-power/accuracy pistol if the animation matched up.

If she's holding the pistol at the ready, she should be able to fire. What about slowing down the animation so I don't have to spam clicks?

>>1979746
>>1979754

Well, I'll see what I can do with the pistol.

As for defensive capabilities, one of the big things I wanted is for the player to have a slight cushion--considering the sheer aggression the Iron Maiden encourages, taking hits is going to be inevitable. So I wanted to have a system where the armor can take X amount of damage before the player starts getting hurt. Likewise, this will really help in slaughter scenarios, since there's always those massive fucking hordes of enemies where you're gonna need some shielding from damage.

I initially tried an expansion of the token system, where the Iron Maiden would have two spare "over-armor" tokens in the vein of over-life tokens, but testers quickly would get damaged twice, hop back and wait for the tokens to return, and then come back.
The problem with this regenerating armor system is...the complete opposite.
There's no real indication of when an attack is going to go through and damage you, and at the moment there's a whole shit-ton of attacks that can take off your armor and then damage you as well--plus, the constant regenerating doesn't fare as well in a slaughter environment when enemies keep constantly pounding at you, carving at you through the armor.

I'm not sure what I'm going to do just yet, but I'll think of an alternative method to do that cushion.

>>1979394
if I make it far enough in development ill prolly shoot you an email. gotta see what im capable of first - coding wise.

>>1979737
>I was hoping to use the RTC-3057 punching sprites and I wasn't able to get in contact with the creators for permission.

Use it anyway, I highly doubt they're gonna come back from the dead just to say "Stop using our shit".
If they do, just ask them to continue development on RTC-3057. They've delayed for far too long.

>>1979851
>Use it anyway, I highly doubt they're gonna come back from the dead just to say "Stop using our shit".
People gave Pillowblaster shit for using the playersprite from RTC-3057 in Russian Overkill.

>>1979856
and yet nobody bitches about Cory Whittle's stuff being used.

Quite the double standard, innit

>>1979863
Not quite true. Aenima's Super Skulltag came under fire for that exact reason. Well, that and the fact that he was trying to pass it off as "95% original content".

>>1979804

I GUESS YOU COULD SAY HE'S I got nothin

>>1979917
That glitch really got my head rolling

>>1979917
One might say that he's rolling in his grave

>>1979917
This guy really knows how to turn heads

>>1979917
>>1979945
>>1979946
>>1979949
>>>/r/eddit
please just go home

>>1979982
Your post, I can't believe I read it

>>1978326
it got screwed up in mysteries of the sith, for some reason the sound ended up dropping to half the sample rate, and that just stuck out like a sore thumb.

>>1979986
xD

Any modder bros need professional quality VO for their shit?

Here's some generic swat grunts and such I've done:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TR6hb5WQVQg

>>1980004
Epik maymays ayy lmao

>>1979783
Give the Iron Maiden fists it's own soul gain mode.

You know those soul orbs that fly from Kharon kills?
Make it boost armor a bit.

The bigger your target the bigger the armor meter gain.

Allow overcharging(Maybe 20-30% bonus) if you kill enough without losing the armor meter.

This would encourage bashing the shit out of everything and you get some armor repair for doing so.

>>1976840
nigga please, as if anything other than the shotguns or rocket launcher/bfg are of any use

Dad found this for me at a thrift store or something. Doom hackers guide from 1995, it even still has the included CD, looks like it was never really used. Of course, a lot of the book is pretty outdated now, but they have an interesting little chapter on good level design.

"Avoiding the 'Things Everywhere' Syndrome"

"I do not know why it happens, but immediately after finding out how to place monsters in a level, people learning to make new levels throw in 500 demons in episode 1, mission 1, and start playing. I did it, you have probably already one it, and I'm sure the guys at id did it when they finally got doom working.

The next question is usually 'But why not?' The answer is very simple. No Doom player in the world enjoys walking into a room with 50 monsters in it."

>>1980119
I used to read this one at hastings but I couldn't afford to buy it
those quotes brought back memories

>>1980119
>people learning to make new levels throw in 500 demons in episode 1, mission 1, and start playing.
Reminds me of the levels Oblige has been giving me.

>No Doom player in the world enjoys walking into a room with 50 monsters in it.
Don't tell me how to live my life!

>>1980119
>No Doom player in the world enjoys walking into a room with 50 monsters in it.
stay casual

>>1980119

Can modders be called doom hackers instead?

>>1980008

I'm interested.

>>1980180
That's when we didn't have any mouselook for doom, it's nothing to do with being a casual player.

>>1980225
Plutonia wouldn't really be possible if those kinds of numbers were too hard to deal with.

And there was always mouse turning.

>>1980207
stephanosrex@gmail.com, yo

http://strawpoll.me/2616582

No love for suicide bomber?
They go AAAAAAAAA just like revenants do

>>1980367
They are considerably easy to deal with despite being so memorable.

>>1980367

Suicide bombers are boring.
They're a dude holding a bomb, with a recycled Serious Sam voice-clip from a more notable and interesting enemy.

Revenants, on the other hand, hit numerous key notes at once.
4chan has long had a thing with skeletons, and the Revenant being a skeleton obviously carries over to that. One point.
The Revenant isn't just a demon, he's a cybernetic demon--a wired (and fucking giant) skeleton soaking in blood with twin rocket launchers. Instantly visually striking, and thus instantly memorable. Another point.
The Revenant is also a gigantic piece of shit in gameplay, thanks to its homing rockets that aim only to impregnate bitches and you're the closest thing around. They're gigantic fuckers, and with that they stay long cemented in the player's memory. Another point.
Finally, they're the slaughtermap's enemy of choice, and so the player often engages tons upon tons of them at once. Ohhhhhhhhh, and that builds a deep resentment for them very quickly. They very fast become the enemy you love to hate. Another point.

>>1979737
> I was hoping to use the RTC-3057 punching sprites (pic related), but there's only a small set of them, the readme very explicitly forbids their use, and I wasn't able to get in contact with the creators for permission. Oh well!

Shaviro is probably the guy to contact, he still comes to Doomworld every now and then and he's a cool guy. Just hope it won't come to having to ask Nick Baker. He's around too, but he's... Nick Baker, bitch.

WOW LEWD.

>>1980406
In this case it's Ebola/Kristus you need to care about, he WILL throw a massive sperg fit if you use his art.

So Terminus mentioned that some interesting things happen if you run Demonsteele with Brutal Doom.

Pic related.

>>1980448
yeah, i like that
it's an obvious "don't run this with brutal doom" but at the same time they're -solid and you can run through them so it's not completely unplayable

it strikes me like an enforced time attack thing

>>1980458
It gets worse.

>>1980460
>dat framerate

>>1980460
yeah, but what i'm saying is you have to actually stay in the map for it to reach that level

>>1980486
>>1980460
i dunno maybe i'm just looking too much into it but it really strikes me as less mean-spirited than the instant dumping "fuck you" revenants in hdoom

>>1980406
What's up with Nick Baker?
I remember hearing his name, but I forget the context.

>>1980398

Don't forget their goofy walk cycle and completely outrageous haymakers they throw.

>>1980460
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DJQ_7jKIm24

>>1980497
Nick "NiGHTMARE" Baker

he was a well-regarded mapper around the turn of the century, when i first started following doom sites and forums online

however at some point i remember he got on the wrong side of some kind of argument on doomworld and ended up being losered for a while, i remember his custom title being set to "On Probation" after this, and i think he mostly stopped posting

(annoyingly i can't remember exactly what the disagreement was about, if there's anyone else here who has any idea what i'm talking about it would be great if you could fill in the details.)

>>1980508
He got super-butthurt after kdizd leaked and everyone laughed and salted the wounds.
http://www.doomworld.com/vb/blogs/32982-doom-community-drama-or-how-i-learned-to-stop-being-productive-and-start-whining

What happened with this?

>>1980398
Not who you're talking to but Revenants are so fucking overdone as monsters it's painful.

They're -too- good in their niche as a medium threat monster, they're fantastically designed but I've seen them so fucking often part of the reason I even like the occasional custom enemy is to take over where a revenant might be.

After playing Plutonia and it's offshoots, massive slaughterfest maps, I'm over these cunts.

>>1980119
>but they have an interesting little chapter on good level design.

I'd love to read that shit, is it long?

Perhaps you can scan it and put it all in 1 image?

>>1980556
Went the route of Trailblazer and the Berserk mod.

>>1980556

>A1 concept sprite

gee I wonder

>>1980569
Too bad :(

>>1980572
I think there was 1 more so it gave me the idea that there would be more.

>>1980559
I think they're a fun challenge.

When they aren't abused.

Re: Custom monsters

Guys, guys, guys...listen.

We have our differing views on custom monsters but surely we can all agree that we're well and truly fucking over fighting Icons of Sin, Cyberdemons and Spider Masterminds?

Custom bosses (with health counters!) are alright by me.

>>1980583
Btw regarding cybers and spiders I mean as end level/scenario bosses, not ones used as sub bosses or whatever.

>>1980583
Icon of Sin was never a good boss battle.

It was interesting but outside of the gimmick it was never really a satisfying conclusion to Doom 2 onward.

Just finished Duke Nukem then and I have to say, I love it's "blow shit up, new area revealed" mechanic.

How can you do this in UDMF? Considering it has so many damn features? It would be possible, how would you go about doing that?

I'm familiar with DoomBuilder myself, I'd love to try it out even as just a little tech demo for myself.

>>1980618
>How can you do this in UDMF?
ACS I imagine.

You'd need some cool explosion graphics, and you'd want to mark out those walls with cracks or something.

can somebody post cyberdemon butt punching webm?

>>1980735
I have a screenshot I took in Samsara kicking a cyberdemon in the butt......that help?

>>1980556
Cyber...Cyberdemon?

>>1980739

Not using both feet 0/10

>>1978074
>survival
It keeps happening.

>>1980735

>>1980753

Colon clobbered
pooper pounded
butt bashed
bum busted
rectum wrecked
sphincter smashed
tush trounced


He should have invested in a butt-shield.

doom shits

>>1980835

>>1977592
Hell Awaits is great.

Currently listening to a variety of 80's inspired dark synth.

Carpenter Brut
Perturbator
Mega Drive
Lazerhawk

>>1980580

There wasn't.

>>1980750

Better than co-op.

Goddamn Doom shits. Piss off to >>>/vg/ already.

>>1980850

TL note: Better = More Frustrating

>>1980861

Maybe you should git good

>>1980865
___________________ won't prevent other players' idiocy from ruining your day. Survival is a mode to play only with others as dedicated as you; certainly not with other random who fuck around.

>>1980868

Sounds like a personal problem. I've never had a bad experience in Survival, and all sessions it's been infinitely better than the never-ever-lose-ever w+m1-to-win snorefest that's co-op.
If you don't like survival, then just don't join.

requesting doomguy trying to ignore an archvile on a plane image

>>1980871
>never-ever-lose-ever w+m1-to-win snorefest that's co-op.

Stop playing baby wads where it's impossible to die.

>>1980871
>never-ever-lose-ever w+m1-to-win snorefest that's co-op.

Stop playing baby wads where it's impossible to die.

Edit: alternatively, play on Nightmare skill.

>>1980886
>>1980890

That's why I'm not playing co-op, nigger.

>>1980894

Oh, you're actually a racist troll. I shouldn't be replying. Sorry for the noise, everyone.

>>1980896
>All this reddit
top lel

>>1980896

Having a different opinion is not trolling.

There's so much reddit in these doom shit generals. It's unbearable.

>>1980896
>racist troll
when we say nigger and faggot
do you really think we actually mean it

>>1980902

True. However, I refuse to engage with users of hate language.

>>1980905

Your casual acceptance of hate speech is just as bad.