/vr/ - Retro Games

No, I beat it 20 years ago.

I started it up on 3DS VC a little while ago.

It's alright. I'm on level 5 and the darknuts are straight up cheap.

>>1885192
Yep, almost done with the first quest.

I usually play it once a week just to see how far I can get in a day

is it still fun to play?

>>1885192
yup

>>1885243
yup

>>1885273
gay

>>1885289
how is zelda "gay"?

Yep. Still the best game ever. Would need a modernized map to appeal to newfriends

Its still a very solid game. There are plenty of dungeons, and the secrets are notoriously difficult to find. Set the formula for most other games in the series.

>>1885192
Yup, just about every day.

>>1885192
>Still Playing This??
Every now and then I like to fire it up. I've also been playing Outlands, which is a rom hack.

>>1885192
I just finished it. I didn't expect it to be that hard to fight "little" enemie like darknuts and wizzrobes. Dungeons were fine but bossfights in general were super easy!

Sure, it's the best (and only good) zelda anyway and it's always fun, specially 2nd quest

graphicfags can always fire up the zeldaclassic pc port and still have fun the same way

Playing Zelda II right now.
Rate my Link.

>>1888057
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH
THE INVISIBLE GHOOOOOOSTS
AAAAAAAAAAAAAARRRRRRRRRRRGGGGGGGGGGGGHHHHHHHHHHHHHH
THEY EAT MY SOOOOOOOUUUUUULLLLL
How do I git gud ?

How did people play this game? You literally have no clues what to do at first. I can't play without a walkthrough or strategy guide

>>1885294
She's a girl who likes a sissy boi

>>1888401
>at first
At first, you explore, kiddo.
But some things (location of dungeon 8 and 9) are unfoundable without a walkthrough.

>>1888419

I go around walking around and nothing happens. There's no direction. A simple "Go over here" would help

>>1888450
It's an exploration game.
You explore.
I have personnally made a kind of map of the game. (There are 16x8 screens on the map).

>>1888419
>At first, you explore, kiddo.
>But some things (location of dungeon 8 and 9) are unfoundable without a walkthrough.

Trial and error is how we did it.

>accidentally burn a shrub with the candle while killing enemies
>staircase underneath
>what... the... fuck????
>call brother in a panic (he was playing with GI Joes downstairs, I remember this clearly).
>we went and burned fucking everything in the entire game

Same thing when we accidentally discovered bombs worked on the overworld as well. We obviously knew they blew holes in cracked dungeon walls, but not in rocks outside. We proceeded to bomb every surface in the game

tl;dr

Bomb, burn, and push everything. That is good enough for the first playthrough in a pre-internet, pre-magazine age.

>>1888484
Yeah, you went full autist mode.
I could have played thousands of hours without thinking of using the candle in sunlight.

>>1885201

Wait til' you meet the blue Wizrobes.

>>1885192

Of course. Though the first time I played it was the GBA version, ALTTP was my first Zelda (OOT was the first I completed).

I was just about to play it again actually, the Famicom version (though there's not many differences and not much to read so I don't know why I'm bothering).

>>1888493

I was just fucking around trying out different (less effective) ways of killing enemies. Candle flame did pitiful damage but I was trying to trap an enemy between a bush and my flame, and then I accidentally burned the bush.

I love Zelda 1 because it's the kind of game that really separates the hardcores from the casuals. Whenever I hear some balding Skyrim fan complain about how Zelda 1 is "cheap" or "bullshit," I immediately know to discard all future opinions from him.

>>1888701
Us hardcore gamers, right?

Playing it for the first time.
I always heard you should at the very least have a map, but I'm just winging it and having a great time.

>>1888712
>that guy who says "us ___, right?" when he has no counterargument

>>1888717

The game comes with a partial map so it isn't cheating to use one. It also explains that candle and bomb can be used on the overworld. This would have saved us countless hours of trial and error.

My copy came from trading at school and I had no manual or map. The same was true for others who rented the game growing up. I only found out Zelda included a map a few years ago.

>>1888728

Forgot pic. That old map actually gave a lot of huge hints.

>>1888724
Us samurai, right?

>>1888724
Not him, but counterargument to what? Your blogpost where you suck your own dick and say nothing else? What's there to argue about?

>>1888738
Quit trying to hard. I said nothing inflammatory.

>>1888746
Then what are we supposed to be "counterarguing" against? The anon who called you out was right. You basically made a dumb "us oldfags, amiritegaiz xD" blogpost, complete with some nonsense about Skyrim fans complaining about Zelda. Ignoring the fact that it's so obviously made-up that it made me cringe when I read it, what was the purpose of the post?

>>1888751
Calm down. What are you so upset about?

>>1888752
I'm not upset about anything. I'm asking you why you felt the need to make a completely retarded post and then cry when you got called out for doing it.

>>1888738
>>1888751
>>1888757
Sounds to me like you're the one instigating.

>>1888762
How observant of you.

Anyway, what's with the blog post?

>>1888372
halp
I can't even get close to the 6th dungeon because of the invisible ghosts. I am >>1888057

>>1888701
>true stories that totally happened

/r/ThatHappened

You should post this story over there. I'll upboat it.

>>1888701
Yeah, those Skyrim casuals sure do spend a lot of time crying over the difficulty in Zelda games.

+1

>>1888774
k, just found out that a spell can transform the ghosts into cute blobs.

>>1888801
My bad, I found the entry of the good dungeon. I was trying to get to the final dungeon during all that time, that's why I failed. I think.

>>1888712
>>1888724
>>1888737
>>1888738
>>1888746
>>1888751
>>1888752
>>1888757
>>1888762
>>1888769
>>1888784
>>1888798
Butt9/11'd

started playing it for the first time a little while back

Stuck on the final dungeon and I don't think I'll be able to beat it

>>1889341
Ganon a shit.
Noone tells you how to beat him.

>>1885192
I played this following a guide. Got to Ganon, died, and gave up.

Can someone explain me if the story of Zelda 2 follows the story of Zelda 1 ? If so, can someone explain me the incoherences (Zelda sleeping for years in Zelda 2) ?

>>1890631
Zelda 2 comes some time after Zelda 1. Princess Zelda has been put into a magic slumber by some bad guy and Link needs to get the Triforce to wake her up. Ganon is dead at this point, and his followers want to kill Link and use his blood to revive Ganon. That's why he shows up on the game over screen and laughs. That's how I know it, at least.

>>1891242
Not sure if it was retcon or what.

Apparently the sleeping Zelda is the original princess Zelda, the Zelda from the first game is a recent daughter named after the original Zelda. Didn't know that until I read the wiki last month.

http://www.zeldaclassic.com/
Just gonna leave this here.

>>1891263
The way the opening intro is worded gives the impression that it's the same Zelda from the first game. I wonder if this was the original intention.

>>1891263
That's bullshit, and they know it. Zelda 1 and 2 are inherently tied together - same Link, same Zelda, same Ganon, all of it.

This is ALL in the manual for Zelda 2, there's no room for argument.

>>1891303
The manual of Zelda 2 states that all the girl in the royal family are named Zelda.

>>1891307
Every SUBSEQUENT girl in the family be named Zelda. We're STILL dealing with the same Zelda from 1 since only a few years have gone past.

>>1888701
I hope this post was a joke.

Ugh. Just play every game as if they were separate. They're games, not stories.

Hate people trying to make some kind of fucked-up storyline out of a bunch of games when there is none to be seen outside of thematically similar/same elements reused from game to game.

>>1891445
>responding to a 28 hour old post just to cry troll

Butt Hiroshima'd

>>1891318
I thought they are different Zeldas. The Zelda from 2 being the original.

>>1885273
Where can i find this?

>>1887910
What was wrong with Link's Awakening or A Link to the Past? They both followed and expanded upon the original Zelda style.

>>1891910
Impa was cool when she was like that old witch lady, I mean Amazon Impa is sweet too but damn that magic and the feeling of wisdom you get from reading that.

>>1891978
After reading it, I realized I never questioned who this old guy was. The Triforce Keeper? What the hell?

Did a run through last Sunday, but was unexpectedly thwarted at level 9. I think my game fucked up at some point, saying I only had 7 triforce pieces. Milled around for a bit, then just shut it off.

>>1891910
> Link has brown hair

>>1892497
NES Link: Brown hair, dark eyes, homely peasant-like features, Christian

N64 Link: Blond hair, blue eyes, sharp anime facial features, goddess-worshiping pagan

It's like they're not even the same character.

>>1892557
they are not

>>1891990
I am in the dungeon right now, exploring. My penis is diamond.

>>1891910

They are different Zeldas. (though it's a bit of a mystery what happened to the one you saved in the original LoZ...) This story is about a girl who's been in suspended animation for GENERATIONS. it's clearly not the same Zelda that Link saved before.

the other poster is a fucking retard who does not into English.

How come this game never gets old? It's so awesome. I could play it forever.

My son's name is Link and he is almost exactly the same age as /vr/. I want for his first video game memory to be The Legend of Zelda, preferably on a rugged inexpensive mobile device that I can put ROMs on since I want it to have a no-damage Game Genie code always on so it's just about the mechanics and exploration.

He understood that the Wiimotes worked the TV though and when I switched us over to a little MCPC he quickly came to understand that it's the Logitech now. He's getting to be able to do some of the for-babby games on our smartphones so his first instinct is that everything is touch-screen but a few weeks ago he was watching me play Vagrant Story on my Xperia Play and even though he went for touch screen first I was able to get him to hold it right and move around, open and close menus and move the highlight up and down on them etc.

I don't know if I'm going to get him an X-Play of his own and just ruggedize it or if I'm going to try to get something like a Dingoo A320 or JXD A1000 instead. I WISH I could use some of those $50/dozen Chinese handhelds but it doesn't seem like any of the dirt-cheap ones can have their ROMs changed out.

>>1893125
Why do that to your kid?

Just get a modded Wii or something and put it on a TV. It'll play a ton of Nintendo games and you'll be able to have some quality co-op with Donkey Kong Country Returns. I played it with my 3yo cousin and it was quite fun - he'd hop on my back when he was scared of something, etc.

>>1893126
Dude he's only half that age he can't do any of that shit yet. He's a baby lol. I was JUST able to get him to BEGIN to grasp the idea of video game controllers, and probably only because when he was a tiny newborn infant I encouraged him to play with classic controllers even though they did get pretty drooly. To him, games are something that gets played on phones where you tap stuff that moves and it makes sounds so I have to step in at some point and make his next step on to something kind of like that.

>>1893125
you just should be glad someone decided to reproduce with you, naming your kid link? Is autism passed down through DNA?

>>1893141
It's short for Lincoln.

>>1893125
>>1893126
My wife modded my wii with the homebrew channel. It's got a number of apps in it that are capable of emulating games. I've been playing through Oracles of Seasons/Ages currently.

>>1893145
Top fucking kek

>>1888401
Not be condescending, but when the game was released it was a much different era. There were no instant gratification moments in the game. No achievement points. No one to hold your hand and guide you through it in one sitting. Countless hours of my childhood were spent just aimlessly exploring the map and when I finally did progress it was a major sense of accomplishment, not a foregone conclusion.

>>1893135
You should probably wait until he's a bit older.

For now you should just get one of those cheap tablet for kids that you tap shit and they make sounds or whatever, don't bother with Dingoos or whatever.

>>1893161
Yeah that's why I'm just in the planning stages at the moment.

>>1893151
Yeah, my Wii has been modified for years and of course it has LoZ on it but he can't hold the Wiimote like an NES controller without hitting the B button and the classic controller is too big for him plus he just wants to grab the Wiimote instead since he knows it does stuff.

It's all an exercise in patience but that's having a baby for ya.

>>1885192
Bought a used NES and LoZ loose cart last year, only got the bug to play it last wheel.
Finished Level 7, level 8 whoop my ass hard.
Skeptical that I would try Quest 2.

Ordered Zelda 2 the same night via Amazon. Going to finish Quest 1 and go straight to Zelda 2.

I have most memories of Zelda 2 anyways, what am I missing from Z1 Q2?

>>1893241
Last week, my bad.

>>1893241
It's just a palette swap and dungeon re-map with a more difficult focus. It can make you feel like a badass but start a new game with your name as "Zelda" and you begin with the second quest.

Telling you this makes me feel like I'm in fifth grade on the playground.

>>1893241

second quest is totally optional, adds nothing to the story.

it's also significantly harder than the first quest. like, nasty mean "i'm not sure if this is fun anymore" harder. working your way through it will make you grow chest hair, but it will probably not add to your enjoyment of Zelda 2 in any way.

a lot of people don't care much for 2 at all - in some ways it's similar and in many ways it seems like a totally different kind of game. it's been said more than once that it would have been better received if they'd called it something else entirely and not tried to jam it into the Zelda storyline somehow.

Final temple in Zelda 2 is gonna make you grow chest hair too. That sucker can be a real bear.

>>1893207
I can tell you can't wait until he's able to play games with you. Good dad. What about his mom? Does she play too?

>>1893381
OH NO
ITS THEIR KING

>>1893407

I <3 giant slime

also, dude. get some life containers.

>>1885192
i recently found the game in my basement. unfortunately, my mother got rid of the nes.

>>1885192
I'm still trying to beat it, fuck is this game hard.

>>1893141
>Is autism passed down through DNA?

No, it's caused by pharmaceuticals, just like most psychiatric disorders.

>>1893485
more like it's caused by not disciplining your children

>>1893412
Why? He's got more than enough.

>>1893512
Yeah but psychiatric "medicine" is an extension of that. Parents are too lazy to discipline their kids, so they just poison them into docility and submission.

>>1893485
I'm not up to date with all the cool new killers, who are the bottom left three?

>>1893530
Anissa Weier and Morgan Geyser, the Slenderman stabbers.

Adam Lanza, the Sandy Hook shooter.

I am generally surprised they haven't remade the first Zelda game.

I personally wouldn't mind a remake ala ALBW style. I think that'd be nifty as shit

>>1893583
They did for the SatellaView add on for the Super Famicom, and the Oracle games started out as remakes of the original game (which is why there's a bunch of references to the first game in them).

To be fair, after OoT ruined the series, I doubt we could have a real "remake" of the game. WInd Waker's as close as we're going to get to a 3D Zelda that's close to the original game.

>>1893587
BS Zelda isn't really a proper remake though, because the map is like half the size.

>>1892557
Reminder that Japanese concept art for NES Link portrayed him as brown-haired in Zelda 1 but blonde in Zelda 2.

>>1893638
Sure ?

>>1893638
Looks pretty brown to me on the ad poster.

>>1893145
You're fucking doomed and so is your child
I guarantee that his nickname's gonna be Luke by the time he's 10

>>1893643
concept art
the ads ended up showing him as brown-haired due to brown being an efficient color for the sprite + changing a character's hair color is super confusing

Enter Simon Belmont

>>1893583
I don't know, that wouldn't really be "substantial" enough for today's standards, and if they tried to do a double-whammy, the artstyles would probably clash with each other.
I think a SNES-Style Zelda 1 remake and 3D classics Zelda 2 would work great

>>1893485
I knew that actually I was just making a joke, me and my friends were actually discussing this the other day how they have widened the autism spectrum so much everybody and their dog is a sperg now. My generation is so fucked were all a bunch of enablers that allow people to make excuses instead of actually handling their problems.

I blame a generation raised on spongebob

>>1893668
I always find it funny that people think that "concept art" isn't what's used in the promo art of games from the 80s. Unless you mean the "art" used for the sprites drawn on grid paper. At which point, it would just be codes for colour written in.

Link's hair has always been Golden Brown. It's just that his hair is more golden than it its brown nowadays. If you're insistent on the concept art idea, for the original game, Link's hair was brown in shade and blonde in light.

I played it way back in the day but never got very far (same ole cryptic garbage everyone complains about).
That said, if I were to try it again, I'd do it either BSX or via automap hack.

>>1893681
It's a vicious cycle. We try to solve behavioral problems by tossing pills at them, which just worsens the existing problems (and occasionally creates new ones), which then has to be treated with... more medication.

It's kinda like how our economy is in the shitter because the government keeps taking out new loans to help pay off the old ones.

>>1893691
I was referring to this concept art specifically

>>1893740
You mean the art from Nintendo Power?

>>1893740
Are you colorblind? That's brown.

>>1893740
I know a lot of people repeated like talk about Katsuya Terada's art as being "concept art", as in "this art was drawn as a part of the actual development of the game", but it was honestly just art that he was commissioned by Nintendo to do for Nintendo Power. If it were actually the real concept art, it would be the official art. You know. Like how the actual art is used in the manuals and promos.

That's like thinking that the art for FFIV in Nintendo Power is the REAL concept art and that what Yoshitaka Amano drew was just "for the ads".

>>1893391
Candy Crush and some Puyo Puyo clone. Been working on moving her into better puzzle games but she's pretty touch-screen needy.

>>1893769
> If it were actually the real concept art, it would be the official art. You know. Like how the actual art is used in the manuals and promos.

Nintendo Power WAS used for promos and it WAS the official Nintendo magazine. Nintendo may not own it now, nor have they for years, but in the beginning they did.

And manuals rarely included concept art.

>>1893795
He's saying that the Nintendo Power art isn't actually official Nintendo art.

That's like saying that Shoraro Ishinomori designed Link to the Past.

>>1893769
This is a pet peeve of mine, but I hate how people refer to all sorts of promotional artwork as "concept art."

>>1893583
http://nintendoeverything.com/aonuma-further-discusses-zelda-wii-us-open-world/

Rejoice

>>1885273
It's been 4 days and no one's done this yet?

>>1893829
My pet peeve is when people will refer to a symphony as a "song."

>>1893829
Well, most official art is based on concept art, but the rough sketchs of characters is almost never used for the official art.

On an unrelated note, this line of discussion is giving me Vietnam Flashbacks of a "Venonat evolves into Butterfree" thread where people were saying that Pokemon had no concept art and that they made up the names and promo art after the game had shipped.

>>1888401
I tried putting a relative of mine through this. He had no clue what to do.

He still wants to finish it, though.

>>1888401
the manual had a map that told you the order of the first 4 dungeons, and what every item does, that is all you need. google zelda nes map and you will find it in the images

Does the doll really do anything ? When I take it, nothing happens.

My anus isn't ready.

>>1894452
Oh god, I realise it gives me a life.

>>1888450
>I go around walking around and nothing happens. There's no direction. A simple "Go over here" would help
What are you doing on this board?

>>1893668
You rang?

wtf is this place

>>1888401
Damn, modern gaymurs are hopeless.

>>1894942
you got a heart container or a piss bag there, can't remember which

>>1894942
idk, but Link looks like he`s holding his dong.

>>1888401
Most people back then couldn't play it without Nintendo Power or their country's equivalent either.

Don't let the badasses here tell you otherwise.

>>1895109
keep telling yourself that sonny and maybe, just maybe, it'll become true.

>>1885192
I played this a few years backed and realized one of the dungeons is shaped like a swastika.

>>1895148
It's the windmill of happiness you dumbfuck.

>>1895159
No it's not. Its a swastikas. Go away JIDF

>>1894452
>nothing happens
it appears hyrulian laws on pedophilia are very lax

I got it for free on the 3DS
>buying 3DS "too" early ftw (embassador program)

I dont get it, maybe Im too new in this world

>>1895164

I always assumed the labyrinth in Zelda was based on the oldschool swastika from Eastern religions, before the Nazis reversed it and then ruined it as a symbol for everyone else

>>1894457
I always fail to beat him. Help

>>1895314
It is, and it's outrageous that even Japanese artists (where the manji is understood to be a Buddhist symbol) catch flak from limp-dicked bankers for celebrating their own heritage.

>>1895109
>>1895123
The manual of the game had a map for the first four dungeons, and telling you where they were. It was more than enough to get started. After that it wasn't too hard, except for the more esoteric things.

There once was an old man who lived under a tree

Dirty and smelly and cranky was he

I burned down his door

And took off before

He could take all my rupies from me

I tried to not use a guide for this but had to look up how to get past grumble grumble guy and the location of a dungeon because I didn't know you could burn trees

>>1896240
I like it.

The first Zelda teaches children to play with fire.

>>1897691

Better.

>>1885774
I recently played LoZ for the first time on an actual NES.
Game very much holds up till this day. Gameplay is fun and challenging.

But come on... The hyper secrets are ridiculous. Congratu-fucking-lations if you found them by dedicated burning and bombing everything, but that shit is not good game design. The game grinds to a halt those couple of times you need to find those secrets to progress.
I guess having the map would have helped, but it wouldn't change the fact that you'd have to systematically burn and bomb everything aimlessly.
And please don't go "modern gamers" either. This is the stuff we used to share in the school yard pre Internet-era. That or Nintendo-Power...

>>1897812
>but it wouldn't change the fact that you'd have to systematically burn and bomb everything aimlessly.

Video game "secrets" were huge in the mid 80s, especially in action-adventure games. Push random things, attack every object in the game, hidden doors, money, and shops... It was all just randomly placed without any hints and players were simply expected to try everything.

Druaga was far, far more cryptic than Zelda was, and it was an arcade game. Some floors are cleared like in zelda (kill all enemies in room) but some need a specific sequence of events.

>walking in certain patterns (for example, move to each corner of the room and then face south)
>only attacking one specific enemy on a floor, or killing them in a specific order
>deliberately walk into fire or some other enemy attack on a specific floor to make a chest or key appear
>fake chests that require trial and error, or a puzzle to reveal the real chest

It was a hard as fuck arcade game without a continue option. Amusingly enough there actually is a continue option but it is a secret as well.

Only trial and error and "local arcade tribal lore" made it possible to beat that game. Zelda was similar only it was "local schoolyard tribal lore" that helped spread secrets from kid to kid, school to school.

>>1893853
>>1885273
what the fug is this

>>1897940
I still agree with the person you replied to, it's not good game design. Sure, some people might like that, and tit's nothing away from me that those games get made too. But it isn't good design, especially if the game first teaches you that fire is bad and then you have to walk into it to progress.

>>1885192
>nope
Love the fuck out of this game, but I've been beating the fuck out of it since 1987.

>>1891946
I think it's one of those BS Zeldas. could be wrong. Maybe a hack?

>>1897940
Sucks there weren't many Druaga series home releases

I played it earlier today.
It's good.

>>1893485
You fuckwits could just get rid of your guns already, then you'd stop shooting each other.

>>1901153
No.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Warren_v._District_of_Columbia

Yeah, all the time.

>>1895358
AAAAAAAAAHHH
I finally did it !!!!!!!!!

>>1902038
> Thanks a million
My shadow was a bitch.

>>1897691
>>1897783

ah snap!

>>1894457
I couldn't stand the Thunderbird as a kid. I thought it's whole body was solid so i couldn't get close enough to the face to stab it. It wasn't until years later when i realized Link can actually pass through most of it's body.

>>1894457
>>1895358
I hate to be "that guy," but I've never found Thunderbird that hard. You just have to take your time, and focus on dodging instead of trying to hit him constantly.

I got to Level 6 before the game deleted itself.

Still upset about that, was like a year ago.

>>1906884
I didn't know Tingle existed.
How is that Zelda-related ?

>>1893125
>Engineering a "pure" gaming experience--and by "pure" I mean "just like the one I had"--is paramount in my son's development

It's like you think that your way was the only way, and I guess if he has the same experience he'll grow up to be just like you--or even better?

Your son isn't your second chance to live life optimally. Chances are if you try to shove your favorite retro games down his throat, he'll only grow to resent them, and you.

Just wait til he finds out you named him after a fucking video game character.

>>1906884
"B-but muh continuity!" the Zelda community cries out.

"It's a fucking myth cycle! No beginning, no end!" any sane person responds.

>>1893485
I love the little Kelly commentary at the bottom. I guess that little goth she-devil caricature is the product of a "real" upbringing.

>>1893583
What's the point? There's not really enough story to support a modern game, and "timeline" or no, I don't think it's a crucial piece of plot necessary to understand or appreciate the later games. It's essentially been "remade" in bits and pieces--a Dodongo boss here, a Lost Woods there--that putting them all together in one space is just going to feel even more derivative.

Plus

>hyah! hyah! Hyaaaaah!
With every sword slash? Nah thanks

>>1893638
so what?

>>1893740
First of all, that's commisioned art for a Nintendo Power guide, not art produced by Nintendo itself.

Secondly, that's not art produced for Zelda 2. It was featured as part of a Zelda 2 recap in the LttP guide.

If someone else draws a blue-haired Link Between Worlds Link artwork five years from now, you can't go around claiming "Link Between Worlds concept art actually had a blue haired Link."

>>1906884
I chuckled, I'll give you that.

>>1906940
You didn't actually click that image, did you.

The original Legend of Zelda's not a bad game by any means. It just always felt bland to me, I thought that was it's biggest problem. It's not even hard, even on the second quest. You can immediately get the blue ring, get rich from the money making games, and get a couple of hearts at the start if you look around for a few minutes.

Being able to go anywhere from the start is cool in any game, but for the original LoZ, every area being a rectangle and all of the dungeons feeling like the same exact thing doesn't really do it any favors.

I'm not even comparing it to other games in the series, even for an NES game at the time, it feels bland.

I started replaying Adventure of Link though, and forgot how fun it could be. I don't know if I prefer it over the traditional style of Zelda games, but I'd definitely play a newer Zelda with it's style of gameplay. Maybe if the ever put one on the eShop.

>>1907751
I agree that LoZ comes off as sort of bland for the reasons mentioned.
However, the game plays very smoothly. The controls are tight, the menus work great, everything is very responsive with good feedback. It's a very polished game.
This is also why it has held up so well to this day.

>>1906937
>Assuming something is paramount because I bring it up in a Zelda 1 thread.
But yeah he damn well better be better than I am! LoZ is not even my favorite game. He's just at an age where he imitates everything I do and he's going to start remembering things soon. Also, again it's short for Lincoln.

>>1893661
>Luke
>Short for Lincoln
wut.

>>1906969
Oh, I did. I love anything that makes fun of trying to create a consistent Zelda timeline.

It doesn't matter. It doesn't need one. A few games are direct sequels, but they are few and far between.

>>1907879
The extent to which you plan to engineer your son's gaming experience is just weird, that's all. I hope you're prepared for the very real possibility that your son rejects the game because he finds it dull or otherwise unappealing.

>>1908062
I'm not him, but people have been passing down things like hobbies and sports fandom for generations. Video games are just something new to add to that.

I haven't read through this whole thread but unless he's doing something truly weird, the kid's gonna be fine. You have a great point about preparing for possible rejection though.

>>1893125
That's not healthy, don't do this. Also, take care to officilly change his name to a real one.

>>1885192
Still the best game ever. I play it a bit here and there even after all of these years

>>1908092
I was just sharing that he's getting to where he tries to use our phones and the Wiimote and MCPC keyboard and discussing how I'm trying to pick a device he can't destroy that I can put a LoZ rom on that's been pre-patched with a full-life game shark code for him to watch me play and take and play with. I've pretty much decided on a PSP because there are really durable cases available for them.

>>1908136
The thread. Read it.

>>1908287
As someone with a young baby in the family, I'd advise you to do research on the developmental effects of too much "screen time" on children younger than a certain age. I'm not the parent, but I think the gist is to limit exposure heavily (only a few minutes at a time), since it's detrimental to proper brain development. Blink rate, breathing rate, attention span, and every thing else you could imagine are all affected.

Talk to your baby's doctor about it on the next checkup.

>>1891278
i used to mess with this for hours. if i had lots of time and good ideas, i'd make something great with it.

>>1908380
>B-but my obligated videobrah! I want him to be just like me! His childhood is all about me!

>>1908420
To be fair, I'm not against sharing the hobby of playing video games with his kid. Just gotta put health first and not rush things, that's all.

>>1908380
Doctor says no TV at all until he's 2 but fuck that. Sesame Street is on pretty much all day. He only really watches his favorite segments and begs to go outside for hours every day. He's in the 90th percentile for development in all areas and 98th in some. He's doing just fine.

>2014
>not knowing how to obtain the boomersword

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-jIS2nf-mXw

>>1908483
meh, it's your kid. as long as he doesn't hurt anyone other than himself later in life, it's not a problem how carelessly you raise him now.

>I raised my kid with the words "fuck that" firmly in mind as my guiding philosophy

This was a rad German Zelda clone

>>1897960
Complete BS Zelda

>>1908578
>Your kid may grow up to be a serial killer because he got to watch Sesame Street when he was under 2

>>1908578
Well that's too bad, Kid cos he's gonna hurt EVERYBODY!

>>1885192
I have an NES hooked up in my room. I beat Zelda for the first time last year. Honestly, I flat out couldn't beat the game without a guide. Honestly, the game looks and feels better on a CRT compared to the LCD I used to have it hooked to. why is that?

>>1910763
Because all retro games look better on a CRT, which they were designed for, than an LCD.

>>1885192
I just beat it yesterday. I'm pretty nervous about starting Zelda 2.

>>1898113
Well, the question is, do you think the concept of secrets in games PERIOD is bad game design? Like, are secrets inherently bad in games?
Because, I gotta tell you, no current Zelda game as anything remotely hidden in it.

>>1906940
I even think that, back when the Official Nintendo Strategy Guides would make Zelda guides read like you're reading a history textbook, the ones for the Oracle series talked about how Hylian scholars have started to believe that many of the Zelda histories they keep finding are actually just folk stories from other lands that Hylians just injected their cultural hero into.

>>1885201
Dude I am stuck on level five. I cannot beat all those darknuts in that room with the staircase.ol

>>1885273
Seriously, where can I get this?ki

I have it on my 3DS and I can't play it for crap. I wander around and die a few dozen times with no clue what to do.

>>1891263

Dude, it says it in the manual.

The Zelda in Zelda 2 is centuries old. She's been put in a coma, like Sleeping Beauty, and sealed away. She's the first Zelda that started the trend but she's not the first princess named Zelda. She's most likely named after the Skyward Sword Zelda, like a kid being named after a famous person or their great-grandparent.

It's likely she's not even a reincarnation of SS!Zelda since she never died and thus couldn't reincarnate into the other Zelda's.

>>1892497

Your youth is showing. Every Zelda fan knows Link was brunette in the originals

>>1893141

Autism is a neurological disorder. I mean I know a few autistic people with autistic family but it's most likely coincidental

>>1911616
About 90% of autism has been linked to specific genetic variants, so yes, it is hereditary. No coincidences here. Check the work of autism researcher Simon Baron Cohen.

>>1911612
Read the manual again because it clearly states that she is, in fact, the Zelda from the first game.

>>1893485
Quit posting that shitty edit, this is the real one.

>>1885192
playing for my first time. dungeon 3 is fucking shit i am gunna stab someone.

>>1912009

lucky you have a sword then! get stabbin

by the 3rd labyrinth you can easily have acquired the white sword and blue ring. if you haven't yet, try it again with those, might give you the boost you need.

then again if you're having trouble in 3 you're gonna loooove 6 and 8.

>>1912047
Don't forget 5

you guys do challenge runs for this game?

back in the day i beat the game with only the red sword, then with only the magic sword. it was kind of fun to add some extra challenge.

are there other fun ways to spice up the game?

>>1912065
Some people have done a swordless run

>>1912067

that's kinda what I meant by "only the magic sword". you don't get any sword at all until the end of the game, when you kind of have to.

pretty sure Gannon is vulnerable only to the silver arrow and sword. I don't think you can bomb him.

for that matter it might be technically possible to beat level 8 without a sword but dear god it would be hard. clearing out all those rooms full of blue darknuts when nothing works on them but bombs? I mean yeah, technically possible, but it's also technically possible to win the lottery.

then again maybe i'm wrong...I've seen people do some shit on youtube that I would have sworn was impossible. I should probably research it.

also, is it possible to do a no-sword run in the second quest? the free 100 rupies guy isn't behind the trick wall anymore, so I don't think you can ever bootstrap yourself a blue candle to get started.

>>1912065
I sometimes grab the magic key from level 8 first. You can fill up on bombs and do anything you want on the overworld, but you can't set even ONE foot inside the other labyrinths before getting that key.

Are you a bad enough dude to take out a room full of blue darknuts without getting hit?

>>1912268
You bet I am

>>1911495
got stuck in the same place

>>1913728
Try in the second quest, when every room is full of them, and the red bubbles that take away your sword until you touch a blue one, if it's even in the same room.

>>1912268
>room full of blue darknuts
>bring 8 bombs

OH LOOK ITS FUCKING NOTHING

>>1912047
so i went back and got the sword last night. going to try the dungeon again. what the hell is a blue ring for?

>>1914738
It reduces the damage you take by half

>>1914738

the blue and red rings are Zelda's equivalent of armor. unfortunately the red ring isn't available until you can get into level 9 at the end of the game.

the blue ring costs an absurd amount of rupees and is in a hidden shop. unless you've been diligent about exploring the Overworld, you're probably going to need a cheat guide to get it.

in this game you are expected to methodically explore every possible screen and examine it for secrets. in fact, by the time you have the candle, the bombs, and the whistle, you can find a cave entrance on almost every screen in the overworld. some will give you money, some will give you heart containers, some will penalize you...

>>1914785
i've just been using pic related only. i try out the squares that it highlights but mostly i'm just going from level 1 and up with a little exploring. i haven't read shit otherwise. so i'm kind of playing blind but not really.

>>1914817
forgot pic.

>>1891242
>Ganon is dead at this point, and his followers want to kill Link and use his blood to revive Ganon.
I knew J. K. Rowling stole her plot from somewhere...

>>1914817

that's cool. but the labyrinths by themselves are never going to require you to hunt for all the overworld secrets, so make time for it when you can. things like sword upgrades, rings, magic shield, health potions, etc. are not strictly necessary to beat the game, but you'll struggle without them.

>>1915383
i got the blue ring too and went back to the dungeon and finished it. thanks, anon(s)!

>>1915993
p.s. fuck level 4 and this darkness bullshit

buddy and I just beat this game again with drawing our own map via graph paper.

No greater experience can be had.

>>1916464

1. grab your blue candle and unleash the pyro within

2. do NOT let those motherfucking likelikes eat your magic shield. dirty bastards.

>>1914818
>tfw it's actually kind of small

>>1885192
I have just learnt that the Japanese Famicom controller had a microphone, and if you shout while there are Pols voices on the screen, they die.

>>1914818
>>1916701
here is the map I use, its from a Nintendo do game play counselor binder, complete with notes for when people called in at like 4$/min.

>>1918236
Did you steal it or got lucky with ebay?

>>1918238
got it from the game counselor it originally belonged to, along with some other stuff.

>>1918245
Did you date a game counselor or broke into his house?

>>1918250
lol no, just a friend who gave them to me, had been in a box for last 15 years.

link is a real name. I know three people named link.

>>1918267
Which country ?

>>1918271
Daria had a character named Link, so it has to be a real name somewhat

>>1918271

america lol

>>1915383
i beat level 4 with a save state, got tired of going back out to get more bombs and shit repeatedly so i just saved at the dragon and spammed my sword. fuck it yolo.

i'm surprised i never played this game before beyond a 3 min trial. if i grew up with a nes instead of a master system i definitely would've gone the zelda fan route. this shit is addictive.

>>1895082
>Heh tunnel snakes rule
I bet you'll let me join your little retro club when I fuck-save your mom amirite?

>>1888735
>the map of a 25-something year old game is more impressive than those of modern games

I hate this so much, I want a world to explore, not a hallway!

>>1888419
>dungeon 8 unfindable w/o walkthrough
>damn why's this bush down a long narrow path
>if only I could burn it down
OHHHH MYYYY GOOOOD

>>1888484
>cracked dungeon walls
Those weren't around until LttP, bruh. You just had to hope the walls were bombable.

Best Zelda incoming.

>>1919992
How do I save ? I tried pushing A,B,Start and Select at the same time and it doesn't work.
Using higan btw.

>>1920381
I think its select A or BA on the second controller at the start screen. Yeah I know it doesn't make sense

>>1921001
It is Up + A in the second controller

>>1921001
>I think its select

>>1920381
Can you use save states instead?

Never picked it up back in the day, recently got it via emulator. Shit's fun.

>>1919992
Are you that insecure about your opinion that you need to post another Zelda in a thread about the first one?

>>1919368

waiting to hear about your continued progress. i like knowing someone is Zeldaing out for the first time.

how is level 5? i always thought the mummies were pretty cool guys.

>>1930751
Don't you get that reading the GameFAQs board?

Not lately, but I just redeemed it in Club Nintendo on my 3DS. I beat it on an NES already, but I wanted to see how it is on a handheled and maybe even give the second quest another try.

>>1885192
playing the floppy disk version.
So much better than the cart.

>>1885192
YOUR MOM STILL PLAYING MY COCK I KNOW

>>1936363
How is the floppy disk version much better?

>>1938210
Not him, but off the top of my head there's things like pols voice being scared by the mic and shit.

>>1938210
not him either, but for starters:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ixoAMwsGEdk

>>1939002
I think that's also in the FC cart re-release.

>>1939128
I don't hear much difference

>>1940929
http://www.webmd.com/a-to-z-guides/ear-wax

>>1940990
I am not amused by your snarky response

Do I need to play any of the Zelda games before playing Ocarina of Time? I played some of the SNES game but never beat it.

>>1888401
I know I wish modern games were made this way. Also when I was younger I took notes and after exploring every area made a map.

>>1943202
Nope. You don't need any back story.

>>1893145

>>1909902
Looks gay.

>>1888493
You never played text adventures it seems.
Often they require you to think outside the box to find solutions for puzzles. This is just a more graphical version of that concept.
What fun is a game anyway if everything is spoonfed to you? Might as well play pure arcade game at that point instead of adventure.

>>1943297
>Implying Goofy isn't second best Disney character.

>>1891278
> Windows Version (8.64mb)
> Linux Version (43.5mb)
> Mac OSX Version (9.64mb)

WTF? Linux a bloated shit!

>>1885273
I've been away. What's this, a 16-bit remake of LoZ?

>>1943438
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Satellaview_games_from_The_Legend_of_Zelda_series

>>1898349
sounds like a bunch of BS

>>1943438
It's BS Zelda.

In a sense, it's a remake, but the dungeons are completely different ( they spell out St. Gigas for some reason ), and the overworld is a bit smaller.

Also, there is a day and night system. Darknuts roam the field at night, and you are only able to fight Ganon at night. There is also a heart piece you can only collect a a certain time, and you can permanently miss it.

There are also clock based random power-ups, like ininite arrows, bombs, instant kills, permanent sword beam, ect.

>>1944779
Someone should ask Miyamoto about St. Gigas

>>1885192
Just finished it again about 3 weeks ago... for me, it was the best game of the system (dry your tears SMB3 fans).

>>1944772
Oh you

>>1893583
They did, it was called Oracle of Seasons.

I'm going to post some maps.

>>1950309
That pic is really reaching.

>>1950540
Not as much as you'd think. Not only do nearly all the major geographical features and dungeons line up, in order, but all the dungeon bosses are the same too.

>>1950547

I started playing it not too long ago. As someone who never played the NES or any games of that type or generation, it took a bit of getting used to LoZ. I like it, but shit aint easy, especially discovering the secrets - I'm simply not used to that kind of 'trial and error', 'no clue for you' exploration.

>>1950535
That's pretty cool!

>>1950648
That's definitely something that's been taken out of nearly every modern game even though discovery is one of the most rewarding experiences any game can have.

>>1897812

I've been playing LoZ for the first time too without guides and only the included half finished map. But in order to beat the game you only have to burn one bush or bomb one part of a mountain. Even that specific bush is in a really obvious place.

Are you seriously complaining about the optional "It's a secret to everybody?" spots? Those are only useful for gaining a fast amount of rupees. There are parts in dungeons where you can bomb walls but there's only 4 directions to bomb in and if you have the dun map it's pretty easy to tell what walls you have to bomb.

The game is filled with a lot of hints and easy to figure out things. Like the Lost Woods has an old lady you have to bribe in order for her to tell the secret same for the lost hills. Or the occasional old men that give hints for free.

>>1950753
There's at least one room in the first quest that you con't bomb your way into but you can pass through the wall if you walk into it long enough. There are a ton of these in the second quest and some of them are required to beat the game.

>>1950648

the clue is that there is only one secret per screen, so if a screen has an exposed cave entrance or something special to it, then there is not going to be a secret there.

>>1950762
well second quest has more hidden stuff because it assumes you know the deal with exploration and discovery already

>>1888401
>How did people play this game? You literally have no clues what to do at first. I can't play without a walkthrough or strategy guide

You explore. It's really not a complicated game.

Shit man, I was in 4th grade when I beat it with no guide what-so-ever. Albeit, I did partner with a friend (also in 4th grade) to swap what we'd figured out, which allowed us both to finish the game.

>>1893110
>They are different Zeldas. (though it's a bit of a mystery what happened to the one you saved in the original LoZ...) This story is about a girl who's been in suspended animation for GENERATIONS. it's clearly not the same Zelda that Link saved before.

The original story I read was that Zelda, form the first game, fell into a magic-induced slumber.

I think this story makes more sense.

Link sees darkness and evil on the rise, Zelda falls a sleep, and as he goes to wake her he learns that Ganon's followers are out to kill him.

It makes more sense than Link learning that Ganon's followers are after him, OH and an old Zelda princess has been sleeping for generations.

>>1893583
>I am generally surprised they haven't remade the first Zelda game.

A Link to the Past is arguably a re-imagining of Zelda 1. OOT a re-imaging of ALTTP.

Really, most of the Zelda games are re-imaginings of the original game with only a few novel titles.

>>1950648
>aint easy

>>1950535
now that makes me want a hack based around that

I could never beat the first dungeon, the hands always got me, if I tried to explore the outside I never made it very far either.

>>1952724
Ninty itself's got you covered. BS Zelda. Thank me later.

>>1893126
>>1893141
>>1893151
>>1906937
>>1908136

Guys, it's copypasta.

>>1893675
This, I would love to see a romhack of ALTTP that remakes the first game.

I'd also like to see a SMB3 romhack that remakes SMB1.

>>1952774
But Nintendo already made both of those - not jsut shitty romhacks, but full-on on-engine remakes. For christ's sake, guys.

>>1952785
>All-Stars SMB1
nah

>Satellaview Zelda1
Not anywhere near the LTTP engine base I clearly specified.

>>1952749
oh i know all about bs zelda & zelda classic, nothing new there

>>1952798
>Wish we had a remake of SMB on a next-get Mario engine!
>Well, there's an official one
>I DON'T WANT IT

>>1952807
>SMB3 engine
"next-gen"

>SMB3 engine
>SMB1 all-stars
>"same thing"

It's a simple concept, I'm sorry you can't comprehend it

>>1952809
You're nitpicking like a little bitch. There is a huge difference between SMB and SMB3, but not that much of a difference, comparatively speaking, between SMB3 and AS-SMB1.

>>1952816
>I want Vanilla Coke
>We have Cherry Pepsi

I would like to play SMB1 using the original NES Super Mario Bros. 3. That's all I said. Let it go.

>>1952821
>I want vanilla coke produced at this particular factory exatly three months ago

>>1952827
Fine, that's what I want. Don't like it, don't care.

>>1952749
>Thank me later.
jeez, scroll up why don't you

>>1885774
>Still the best game ever.

Nope.

>>1885192
I beat the second quest for the first time a month or two back.

I didn't use a guide of any kind. Lucked out finding out the recorder can make stairs

>>1953124
different abacus here, but what is the best?

>>1954236
I spent years of my childhood thinking you were supposed to get the ladder around the first level since I knew you needed the power bracelet for the fourth level and yet up to that point, I didn't know you had to use the Lost Woods because I have always got the ladder in the 1st quest to cross to that area. Once I figured out the way out Lost Woods (I did not know English) I was able to just figure out the rest of the 2nd quest.

Does anybody know some Zelda Classic quests worth playing? And how do they feel? Are does practically just LoZ mods?

>>1955586

fanmade stuff is usually pretty shitty, so don't expect anything spectacular

>>1952724
This one is playable in the Zelda Classic engine, I think.

>>1950538

>>1952724
>>1956301
Here's that link.

http://www.purezc.net/index.php?page=quests&id=72

>>1955586
I'd reccommend the 1st quest remake, though some of the music is questionable ( A shitty Sonic Adventure 2 Live n Learn midi is used for Ganon's keep )

If you don't like remakes, try Isle of Winds. It's a Windwaker sequel, though it's still classic style gameplay. There's just a lot of raft riding.

The only problem I have with it is that I find myself checking walkthroughs often, and item drop rates are too low for my situation.

>>1956538
Why would anyone add more raft riding?

>>1956538
>item drop rates are too low for my situation.
This so much. I had to leave a dungeon and search the whole world just for a couple of bombs.

>>1944779
Truly a great remake. It included 4 quests in total including quests 1 and 2 of the original game as 3 and 4. But if you wanted to play it originally it was kind of a pain in the ass.

In some ways this is why emulation is good.

>>1957751
If it means anything, you eventually get Zora Flippers and never have to use the raft again.

>>1958285
Why would a developer force you to grind for bombs when you need them a lot in Zelda?

>>1956306
Why didn't I know of this before?

Yes, in the sense that I have one or two games stalled sometime during the 2nd temple.

I don't mind the exploration, in fact I like being dumped into the world without much indication of where to go. But the combat system is too difficult/frustrating for this SNESfag.

>>1959782

>all these people thinking combat is difficult

Do people just not use the boomerang, or...?

>>1959657
Probably the same reason I did know about it and never actually played it.

>>1950535
Neat.

>>1959856
I'm not hating, but these are my thoughts exactly.

>>1956306
>>1950535
>>1950538

Are there projects like this for the Gamboy-Zeldas, or at least Link's Awakening?

>>1950538

I just tried this one out. Shit feels cluttered as hell.
I don't think the massive trees were a good idea. You'd be better off playing the original, BS Zelda, or 1st Quest remake.

Also, they got the great fairy/dungeon 6 entrance locations mixed up.

>>1960213

Too bad this could never work, on account of the way hook shots and arrows were used, because this looks like it would age way better than the actual Ocarina of Time, provided you toss a few enemies in the field for adult Link or something.

>>1960213
I hope this turns out different than the one that was being worked on by the guy who faked his death to get out of the project.

>>1960869
There's a map, at least. I know there's also a playable version with NES graphics, will post map next.

>>1962679
http://www.zeldaclassic.com/viewquest.php?q=394

>>1960909
Dungeon 7 you mean? I kind of expected clutter looking at the map. I think a lot of these fandevs lack the patience to lay out any empty space between the important features.

>>1951425
The quest begins when the Triforce on Link's hand begins to glow on his 16th birthday. This mark allows him to access the sleeping Zelda's room as the prophecy foretold. Ganon's minions notice this and go after him.

Zelda in AoL was, in 1988, the very first princess named Zelda in the lineage. LoZ Zelda was named after her. Now that SS pushed the timeline way back, it's hard to say if sleeping Zelda is still the first Zelda, although it is possible since North Castle is never visited in any other game so no one really knows what was going on in there. The Sleeping Zelda Legend is one of the most difficult events to place on the timeline.

Although I wonder which Zelda the creators of the animated series used.

>>1893485

even though millions of our kids are raised with all this shit and turn out fine

some people are just fucked up, and that's how it's always been since the dawn of the human race

>>1906914

>didn't play majora's mask

>>1950535
>tfw it's actually tiny

>>1888401
<spoiler>human contact</spoiler>

Top-down Adventure of Link remake.

>>1963046
I'd be down for this if that was just the over world, and they managed to get the 2D battles working.

Bonus, unused SNES version of Zelda II Title Screen ripped from SNES test cartridge: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RZooijvtuts

>>1963046
Unfortunately the creator of this project has since changed to a Secret of Mana graphic style rather than LttP sprites. Damn shame.

Here's Link to the Past for Gameboy by the same guy.

>>1963076
The battles aren't cutaway events but rather monster random encounters on the overworld. That screenshot looks delicious though.

>>1962971
Spoiler tags use brackets and if you highlight the text you are going to spoiler and press Ctrl + S, you will get them by default

>>1962754
Mostly the second one because it had more plot, just like how the CD-i games used the second

>>1950540
Oracle of Seasons was originally going to be a Zelda 1 remake, however.

>>1952785
Neither of those exist.
All-Stars ported the games to SNES and then prettied their graphics up. They're still the same old NES games, and in fact an old NES debug code for SMB3 still works on it's All-Stars version.

BS Zelda is the same deal, except various modifications were made to it to work with the Satellaview. Not to mention BS Zelda wasn't even developed by Nintendo.

So uh, yeah. Neither are remakes.

>>1950540
If you want to talk about reaching...

>>1950540
>>1965242

>>1965242
>>1965246
In context.

>>1960213

I'm guessing that whoever did this started with Kokiri Forest, since that part is the most detailed.

>>1962831

The graphics for ALTTP make you feel closer to Link. LOZ's perspective is further away. So when you recreate LOZ's world with ALTTP's graphics, it seems smaller, becuase you are literally making it smaller

sorry i'm drunk

>>1891242
You know, I saw this wallpaper floating around for years without Link shopped in and always thought it looked exactly like your pic so I had him shopped in.

Someone needs to find this place.

>>1965354
The SNES version is actually smaller in some places, plus the perspective is more head-on instead of strictly top-down so you can't go behind structures like you could in the NES version. You can see it clearly at fairy fountains and dungeons. Also the use of large trees instead of many small shrubs makes it seem smaller too.

5555
check em

>>1965509
not even fucking close, fag.

>>1965460

Hello new wallapaper

>>1965509
pfft

First timer with Legend of Zelda here.

Was playing Majora's Mask but got tired of all that exploring and dealing with the plot that I just stopped before finding the first dungeon in the swamp and played this instead. Enjoying myself a lot more with the switch.

At dungeon four and looked online for two questions so far. First was making sure that there was a second dungeon somewhere as I walked for so long and had my doubts. The other was giving up my search for dungeon four blindly and found out I needed to go back to dungeon three and find that raft. Didn't think a key item would be hidden in that dungeon. After all I haven't done anything required with that boomerang, bomb, or blue piece of paper yet.

>>1965792
That's literally the point where the "plot" takes a back seat and you get some dungeoning.

got teh second triforce thingy just today... damn this game is harder than what i thought. i hate those knights that dont take any damage unless you attack the sides

do you guys use a NES emulator or the windows native version by Armaggedon Games ?

>>1965792
>Was playing Majora's Mask
Did you make sure to play Ocarina first?

>>1966741
I use either my GBA if I'm on the go or my NES if at home. Emulators are only for romhacks.

>>1966753
oh yeah i remember having a gameboy version for my SP... it didnt have a save function tho... or maybe i just didnt know how to do it

>>1966758
It used the same button code as the NES version to save. I'm not 100% but I think it was Start+Select at the same time. You always spawn at the overworld start or the entrance to a dungeon though, and only with 3 hearts. Saving was always a calculated risk.

>>1966764
Nah, saving is done by pressing start on controller 1 and then pressing up and a on controller 2. I don't think you could save the same way on the NES Classics, but there I think they emulated it with the emulator menu, accessed by pressing L and R simultaneously.

>>1966787
I could have sworn it was a simultaneous combo but Google disagrees apparently. Saving on the GBA is start then UP+Select in the item screen.

>>1966758
>didnt have a save

>>1894458
SAVE THOSE NIGGA YOU'RE GONNA NEED EM

>>1965285
It would be cool if there ended up being a kingdom for each segment of that overworld.

>>1967819
Assuming that pic is accurate, then every game so far fits inside AoL's area. Even Phantom Hourglass could potentially be an underwater version of the overworld. Maze Island anyone?

I still go back to it every few years just to see if i remember where all the secrets were. So i know i have not completely forgotten my childhood.

>>1967891
>You remember all the secrets but you can't remember how it felt the first time playing

>>1967898
I don't remember how it felt my first time other than my brother yelled at me for deleting a file

>>1968651
That seems easy to emulate...

I started playing the sequel. Pretty cool and challenging. They added a mana bar but downgraded it to one item slot. I'm at some desert dungeon right now.

>>1893797
>Shoraro Ishinomori designed Link to the Past

I want to live in that parallel universe now.

>>1967898
>you remember all the secrets
This
. Fuck I wish my brain was better used

>>1967898
I am the opposite. I remember how it felt to play it the first time and all the other stuff I was doing as a kid when I was playing it, but so many of the specific locations and details have been lost.

The last time I played through it (only my 2nd or third time ever) was probably the early '90s, btw.

>>1968947
That's not 3D Dot Game Heroes

>>1967898
>but you can't remember how it felt the first time playing

Mostly not, but something remains...

>Argh! Why can't i pick up that fucking sword?!

>Old man just killed me! I bet i almost had him too...

>Door repair fee?! You can't do that!

>Red potion or heart container, let me think about this for a minute...

>>1967898

>>1970795
iktfb

That's life.

>>1888701
>balding at the age of twelve
>Zelda 1 not having control issues and a few cheap situations.

>>1972106
Stop it, anon. You are making me want a Zelda clone set in the Peanuts universe and not even Earthbound hacks can deliver on that promise

>>1971730
People have been aping each other's ideas since the invention of fire

>>1973869
It's just a sprite comparison, not implying theft.

>There will never be an 80s-era Zelda anime with character designs by Haruhiko Mikimoto.

>>1970868

I still dream of the day that I forget all of the vidya secrets I've learned just so that I can rediscover them.

>>1963076
BS Zelda II, or any kind of graphical remake of 2, fucking waaaaant.

>>1894446
Does the Wii U Virtual Console "come with" the map a la Startropics and its water-activated paper?

>>1973885
oh no, we miss out on shit that looks like old baby dolls cosplaying link and peach. what a shame.

>>1974160
>Implying it wouldn't had been better than the American cartoon.

>>1974208
That's setting the bar pretty low.

>>1950552
fucking love it

I've never played this game before. (I think I remember my cousin had it but I never actually played it for some reason... I never owned a NES myself.) Anyways, do I actually need a map to play through this? Or should I just start playing on my own without a guide? I think I tried got confused and quit. I'm not a youngin' I just am spoiled by in game maps.

>>1962754

I always liked the fact that when Link could stop being a skeevy jackass for five minutes he was actually competent as hell.

>>1974208
>>1973885

Hello from /m/. Please ignore the shitposting. 80's anime is really visually pleasing. Thanks for posting those scans.

>>1974341

It's a better experience if you play without one but you also need to dedicate some real fuckin' time to it.

I would play it blind but use a map if you get stuck. It's the kind of game that intends for you to draw your own maps.

>>1974347
I don't think I've ever done that for a videogame. I really wish I didn't buy this on the 3DS. Didn't the NES version come with a map in the manual though?

>>1906884
>The crossbow era

>>1974349

I've heard that, but I don't think it had all the burnable bushes and stuff like that.

I dunno, I got it as a hand-me-down from my cousin and drew my own maps, if it did have one I never saw it.

>>1974341

A map is not required, but it's advised. The original game came with a partially completed map.

I beat the game with no map or guide when I played it for the first time via Animal Crossing, so it can be done, it just may take some time.

While a guide isn't needed at all, it actually is good to get a few tips. If I remember right, the original concept of the game was to have players communicate to each other and exchange notes to help each other progress through the game. So really, there's no shame in it, you're just doing what the developer intended.

>>1974347
Alternatively, if you emulate, consider the "Automap Plus" patch, that makes the blank, grey overworld "map" on the HUD not completely useless.