/vr/ - Retro Games

I do not have a problem plowing through this game either. I believe it was the difference in game mechanics that made it hard for some people. Zelda 2 took a different kind of skill to beat that Zelda players weren't expecting.

Was this your first time playing?

>>1952382
My older cousin played it years and years ago, so I only got to watch.

It's sort of strange, when I think of Zelda, this is the game that comes to mind.

>>1952252
Rad story dude.

How much of the essential parts did you know beforehand?
Things like New Kasuto, needing the Thunder spell before going to the final palace, the hidden magic jar in the maze, needing the Reflect spell before doing the island palace, etc.

>tfw my friends laugh at me for having this as my favorite zelda game ever

;_;

I wonder why so many people dislike this game. I thought it was really good and would love to see Nintendo pick its premise up again. Maybe for a handheld Zelda.

I fucking loved the overworld with monster assaults and the platformer gameplay.

Other games have demonstrated that platforming, adventures and puzzles can work really well together.

It's not flawless though. My biggest gripe is the bad (visual) design of places and dungeons.

For example how they wasted loads of space by having just huge rooms filled with nothing. Both in dungeons and towns.

That's all space that can be used.

that was my first zelda game . and only zelda game thinking of it. was too poor to do the snes one and when came the time to emulate it or try similar game for the ds it turns out i dont give a shit about that type of game anymore. never got into the later consoles either. so , zelda2 forever i guess.

Just have to jump-stab Iron Knuckles in the face. I really wish I could remember figuring out this game. Feels like the secrets have always been in my head. The game actually played a large role in my learning to read. Bleh.

>>1953194
>Just have to jump-stab Iron Knuckles in the face.

I wish that worked on those asshole Fokkas.

>>1953206
That's what the up-stab is for.

It is pretty easy, but it's just that it's so different (and good) makes it fun and worth playing through.

i'm only just going through zelda 1 and 2 fully for the first time now. i've played them before, but never actually completed them. anyone know what the hell the secret in the "eastern peninsula" is that the old guy in the first dungeon is talking about?

>>1953546
One hundred rupees from a moblin.

http://www.newgrounds.com/portal/view/645365

>>1953546
Since it's a shoddy translation, there's a few things people think it could mean.

1. Hint at the dungeon boss location ( least likely since there is no peninsula in the dungeon )

2. The far north east side of the overworld map has a secret wall that you can climb directly above the money making game ( the reward is 100 rupees )

3. It's the heart piece you reach via raft/step ladder.

In any case, the actual Japanese quote is completely different. In Japan it's telling the player that using arrows costs rupees.

>>1953583
haha, why the fuck didn't they just translate it as it was?

>>1953632
There was a few other thing like that they decided to fill in their own text with. Like "Tenth enemy has the bomb" is actually a reference to how enemy item drop tables are structured. Weird shit.

>>1952640
This, my main problem with the game revolves around how boring it is to look at

>>1952556
You have strange friends.

>>1952252

try the real version (japanese)

>>1953583
>there is no peninsula in the dungeon
I dunno, it makes perfect sense to describe the wing of the eagle as a "peninsula" to me. It sticks out far from the rest.

>>1954307

A peninsula is an area of land that extends out into a body of water though.

>tfw I was breezing through the game until the Goriyas showed up
I feel like a disgrace

>>1954290
The Japanese version was absurdly easy in comparison to the American version. Why would he need an even easier version?

>>1955889
Because overworld balloon enemies.

>>1955468
Wait until you meet the blue ironknuckles

>>1954342
/vr/ in charge of Geography

>>1958410

I think he knows what a peninsula is, he just offered a very bad explanation

how long does it take for the deletion of a thread on /VR/?

>>1959034
Weeks.

Unless you want to start shitposting and dragging gullible anons into arguing with you. This happens more on this board than we'd like to admit.

>>1959042
thanks! I do not know why I have never visited this board.

>>1959092
You probably thought we would be like /v/

>>1954290
The "real" version is inferior to ours in every way

>>1961465
>lower xp requirements
It's more forgiving!
>levels you down on game overs
It's more challenging!
>tutti frutti sperms on the overworld
It's more colorful and fun!
>bosses roar at you
It's darker and more mature!
>no retard giant boss in the water palace
It's less offensive!

There, undeniable proof that the FDS Zelda 2 is not just the best Zelda game, but also the best game known to mankind.

>>1960328
We're still just as insufferable, just in different ways.

>>1961486
What ways?

Are there romhacks of NES Zeldas with slightly pussified combat difficulty (just enough to bring it on par with SNES installments? I like the exploration and dungeons but can't be taxed to master the technique to defeating those knights inside of the temples who throw daggers at you without taking significant damage in the process.

>>1962404

For Zelda 1, You can try BS Zelda, or try 1st Quest remake on Zelda Classic.

For Adventure of Link, there's nothing. Closest we got is that one level long fan game, Legend of Princess.

>There will never be an updated Adventure of Link where Link's combat is like Sword Kirby in KSS

Why live?

>>1952640
I think the thing people really dislike about it is primarily the difficulty. Most Zelda fans of course didn't play it when it came out and only went back later on, but unlike TLoZ it's not really similar to any of the later games, so it's much more difficult to appreciate if you're a FUCKING casual.

Zelda II also is more difficult than most NES games in the beginning only, in that until you've spent some time grinding you're gonna get your ass kicked unless you know what you're doing.

The game really asks you to try to git gud, whereas TLoZ the combat is simplistic and unchallenging and the puzzles are what provides the challenge and if you're a retard you can just use a guide.

It's a shame because Zelda II is easily my favorite game in the series and is responsible for a lot of shit in the later series, yet among modern Zelda fans it's almost universally considered the worst in the series because nobody wants to put the effort in to see the great parts.

>>1962920
>Why live?

To make our kids experience the same games we grew up with

>>1962978
>until you've spent some time grinding
I've actually found that this is one of those games that least requires ANY grinding. There's only so much levelling up possible that by the time you reach the last palace you are pretty much, or nearly, at the maximum for everything anyway; and the game features a steady increase in challenge so that you are at the appropriate level you need to be to beat the current part pretty much all the way through. Even if you don't "you know what you're doing", I still find retrying a few times a lot less tedious than grinding.

>>1964270
When I was playing this game for the second time I found out that doing death mountain twice was everything I was looking for in terms of grinding. as soon as i finish it I went all the way back and then I did it again. All monsters respaw and when your finish it a second time you are strong as fuck.

>>1964113
>having kids

>>1964536
If you are not having kids, make someone else's play the games you enjoy

>>1965794
> made GF play she loved it
> want to have kids
> will maek dem luv 2

>>1952556
Don't worry, it's mine too.

>>1966039
Make your entire family play it to death

Y'know, I get a kind of Castlevania sort of feeling from Zelda II. Does anyone else see it?

>>1968194

Maybe like, Simon's Quest, but with a map. ( Funny enough, Simon's Quest probably would have been better with a top down overworld and random encounters. )

>>1968206
Yeah Zelda II feels like a much better Simon's Quest. Maybe someday someone could try to make a romhack to Castlevanify Zelda II or something if that's possible.

>>1968206
>would have been better with a top down overworld and random encounters

Fuck no

>>1968194
Simon and Link make the same grunt when hit

>>1968194
I wonder if the style change was due to the success of castelvania.

I love this game btw.

>>1970442
>castelvania

>>1953034
>i dont give

>>1953194
This game and the first taught me to read English

>>1953034
>i dont give

>>1953034
Why not play A Link to the Past now?

>>1962978
>whereas TLoZ the combat is simplistic and unchallenging and the puzzles are what provides the challenge and if you're a retard you can just use a guide.

There aren't any actual puzzles in TLoZ. The "puzzles" never get more complicated than "kill all the enemies and push this one block." TLoZ's combat may be simplistic, but it's effective and the real tests of the game are surviving and figuring out what to do and where to go on your own.

>>1952556
>;_;

Can you not?

I'm pretty sure the Zelda II cart I have in my possession has been the victim of a cheating device.

>First file is late in the game with level 0 life
>The amount of experience required to level up life on that file is 9000

>Second file is rather early in the game, around Death Mountain and Midoro Palace
>Go into Midoro Palace to get the Handy Glove
>No locked doors in my way like there are supposed to be
>No keys along the route like there are supposed to be
>Reach the Handy Glove room
>Handy Glove isn't there
>It's not in the inventory

What the fuck, man.

>>1952252

>>1976160

Does cheating really fuck up Zelda II that badly?

I remember cheating in the gamecube version of Zelda II pretty frequenty. Once I went to play without cheating and for no reason at all, there were holes, everywhere. When I fell into them, there was the usual falling animation, and Link would usually end up in the ceiling of the room he fell from, or in a completely random location in the game.

This didn't happen just one time either.

>>1976206
I wouldn't know, but it's the only reason I can think of why the files are like that.

>>1976160
this looks like that creep pasta of majoras mask

>>1976297
I wish it were creepypasta, but it's not. If necessary I could take pictures of the game for proof.