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DOOM THREAD - Last thread >>1937315
(other retro FPS also welcome, chances are we played 'em too)

====WEBSITE/COMMUNITY====

http://doomwiki.org/
The OFFICIAL Doom Wiki, actively maintained and supported by the Doom community. Want to learn more about Doom? Check this site first!

FAQ/Pastebin, updated semi-frequently
http://pastebin.com/vPbiw4NR

IRC (Password is in the FAQ.)
irc.zandronum.com
Channel: #vr

##Our WADs can be found here!##
http://pastebin.com/5sKRiJzS

TUTORIALS/UTILITIES
http://pastebin.com/7vKYWYp0

===WHERE DO I GET WADS?===

Vanilla/Boom: http://www.doomworld.com/vb/wads-mods/
ZDoom: http://forum.zdoom.org/viewforum.php?f=19
/idgames torrent (as of 11/25/2013; 12GB): https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/13513277/idgames.torrent

>> No.1942175

===NEWS===

Randy has been working on porting Blood stuff to ZDoom! Could this mean Bloodites can finally get a day to shine?

Aliens: Ultimate Doom is a texture/enemy replacement mod that takes Doom levels and reskins them to Aliens! http://forum.zdoom.org/viewtopic.php?f=19&t=45213

Another Dark Forces TC? Will it be better than Ryan's? (Probably not) http://forum.zdoom.org/viewtopic.php?f=19&t=46173

Some dork's been working on a site for us to replace the old, shitty one! Will this one thrive or will it flop as well? http://万板.縮.jp/

Got an itch for realism? Shattered Tranquility is a super-early WIP aiming for slightly more realistic weapons and weapon behaviors. http://forum.zdoom.org/viewtopic.php?f=19&t=46650

Here's a music stream that only plays Doom music, 24/7; feel free to listen if you're interested http://liquiddoom.net/

We've been featured on Doomworld! Well, sort of. /newstuff Chronicles gave 200 Minutes of /vr/ a pretty favorable review. http://doomworld.com/php/topstory.php?id=4198

"Ulti Doom" is yet another take on Doom 3 weapons/enemies in Doom, but Skornedemon's known to have made some pretty impressive stuff before. Will this succeed? http://forum.zdoom.org/viewtopic.php?f=19&t=46675

One of our own has just replaced a beta of his megawad. Give it a shot and let him know what you think! http://forum.zdoom.org/viewtopic.php?f=19&t=46676

===POPULAR MODS===

/vr/:
200 Minutes of /vr/: http://www.doomworld.com/idgames/?id=17781
GMOTA: http://forum.zdoom.org/viewtopic.php?p=742401
HDoom: http://www.best-ever.org/download?file=m12-hdoom-techdemo5.pk3
Metroid Dreadnought: http://zandronum.com/forum/showthread.php?tid=4561

Other:
Doom RPG: http://forum.zdoom.org/viewtopic.php?f=19&t=33292
DoomRL Arsenal: http://forum.zdoom.org/viewtopic.php?t=37044
Hideous Destructor: http://forum.zdoom.org/viewtopic.php?t=12973
Hocus Doom: http://forum.zdoom.org/viewtopic.php?t=45804

Got something news-worthy? Reply to this post, or it'll likely be missed.

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mhd0FAkcxvY

Enjoy the agitation, humanfags

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Have a seat.

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Can I play as a Revenant yet?

>> No.1942201

>>1942194
There was a Doom mod where you could play as all the monsters.

>> No.1942215

>>1942182
I really hope those aren't live shells.

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0POMpJcP3k8

>> No.1942223

>>1942218
What the flying fuck?
More

>> No.1942246

THat's the pro doom strats guy.

>> No.1942248

Any DOOM RTS mods or games?

>> No.1942249

>>1942248
ZDoom Wars

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>>1942218
>>1942223

>> No.1942291

>>1942175
>Got something news-worthy? Reply to this post, or it'll likely be missed.

http://www.doomworld.com/vb/wads-mods/65955-going-down-final-episode-has-arrived/
>14/09/14 UPDATE: Episode 3 has arrived - maps 21-30. We are finally at full megawad status.

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This frankenspriting thing can get fucking hard.

>> No.1942298

...is anyone going to tell him?

>> No.1942315

>>1942298
what?

>> No.1942317

>>1942298
Tell who what?

>> No.1942323

playing doom 1:
>Shooting barrels in time before mobs get close to get rid of lot of 'em
>Grabbing hazard suit to lurk in bloodpools or acid, revealing secrets and finding goodies
>Enter the room to get locked in for a period, until you find a button or another exit
>Grab an important key or item, when you backtrack you'll get flanked back to your room
>You'll get nervous in the corridors of UAC, trying to take cover and evading flanks and large ambushes from behind

playing doom2:
>Get ambushed in small dark rooms, get ambushed in large dark rooms, don't shut your lights down. Monsters always coming out of the closets, there are monsters in your closet.
>Grab something to get ambushed right away, doesn't matter if it's important or not, as long as you move forward a small bit in the level progress.
>When you grab something important it goes like; "uh hey man, when you grab that key/item, we'll ambush you by running out of this closet right HERE, so you better be prepared, k?"
>Lurking in the pools of acid have little fun and exploration won't bring anything better to replenish your stuff. there are plenty of ammo and weapons laying around waiting for you.
>Run or teleport to places where you get crossfired but can evade by jumping down the platform or run away.
>Combat large crowded monsters, keep circle strafing instead of inhaling the loneliness atmosphere and stress

Did I grow up or Id started to listen "oh hey doom is awesome, I play with my lights off and it feels like there are monsters in my closet! oh yeah!" and somehow got lazy?

>> No.1942328

>>1942323
>Did I grow up or Id started to listen "oh hey doom is awesome, I play with my lights off and it feels like there are monsters in my closet! oh yeah!" and somehow got lazy?
parser error, please resend

>> No.1942338

>>1942323
Yeah, i never liked Doom 2 as much as 1, however, Doom 2 is the superior game for multiplayer due to tasty Super Shotgun and varieties of enemies

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There was an attempt.

>> No.1942352

>>1942350
S'bretty cool, what's the theme of the game?

>> No.1942353

>>1942352

It's GMOTA. I'm working on an imp replacement.

>> No.1942354

>>1942353
No idea what GMOTA is (i'm relatively new to the general here) but it looks sweet to me.

>> No.1942356

>>1942354

Oh, sorry anon, here http://forum.zdoom.org/viewtopic.php?f=19&t=45115&sid=34b1710c6447deaf7916905a85391b13

It's essentially every capcom fantasy beat 'em up smashed with doom.

>> No.1942363

>>1942356
That looks fucking rad
If i didn't have stuff to do today i'd play it right now

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I'm not particularly thrilled with this frame, he looks... Sassy, like "oh nuh uh girl you did NOT just make me get into a pain state."

Damn it.

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>>1942328
>>1942323
Doom 2 as it was made, was pretty much made before development of Quake really got off the ground (though Carmack was more or less working on that engine at the time), it was a deal with GT Interactive, who basically said "Hey, how about you make a cool mission pack for Doom, and we'll publish it for you, we'll all make loadsamoney!", so they did. Doom 2 wasn't really planned in the way it happened, if it was even planned at all at that point.

While Doom 2 did add a lot of wonderful new stuff, monsters, textures, music, and the Super Shotgun, the new levelset was just not nearly as good, Tom Hall was off the team already, so the only real input he had on Doom 2 was that an unfinished/unused map meant for Doom was recycled and redone as Map 10 for Doom 2, John Romero, who made a lot of the really great levels in Doom (including pretty much all of E1), was high off his tits on the fame Doom brought to them, he was busy being out and famous, being a "rockstar", he wasn't doing as much of his job (this would later continue with Quake, and then a lot with Dai Katana), as a result, he only made six levels for Doom 2, and Sandy Petersen had to pick up Romero's slack, which was problematic, as even though Sandy's levels were fun and imaginative, they were ugly as shit, and don't work well in large doses.

The maps had less personality because one of the more colorful persons was less involved, and one who's colors are good when used sparingly had to fill that in.

Doom 2 is fun, sure, but it's not nearly as fun as Doom, even if it has a lot of cool new shit, because the maps just aren't as good, there's not nearly as much atmosphere, there's not nearly as much interesting themes, maps feel largely disjointed, in Doom, you felt much more that you really were in dark distant space stations, on far away moons.

>> No.1942393

>>1942323
I loved Doom 2 level design... thematically, doom 1 is superior, but the way the level themselves and the battles were structured in doom 2 was excellent.

>> No.1942405

>>1942323
I've always thought Doom 1 is MUCH MUCH better than Doom 2.

I don't even like the Super Shotgun. It's fun to use but the problem is that it's overpowered, and as a result, gameplay becomes 90+% SS and 10% every-other-weapon (and most Doom 2 Wads suffer from this too).

The only really good thing about Doom 2 is the new enemies.

>> No.1942416

>>1942297
>one sprite makes it look like a rayman hand for one frame

>> No.1942418

>>1942416

That sprite wasn't finished, and I'm having second thoughts about this idea. I might look into taking a melee humanoid from Realm667 and just editing that instead, I'm feeling like this particular armored imp idea isn't going anywhere

>> No.1942421

>>1942418
If it helps wasn't there a sheild imp on Realm667? Perhaps you could use that as inspiration or just flat out use that one instead?

>> No.1942423

I've got a question for any Doom veterans in the thread: what was your reaction to the release of Quake?

I missed the boat back in the day and am only just now getting around to playing it for the first time and I'm a little underwhelmed. It's not really bad but feels a bit... soulless? It's just so grim and humorless compared to Doom.

These impressions are all based on the single-player mind you, I haven't touched muilti.

>> No.1942425

>>1942421

I like the Imp Warlord, but him having a shield is a problem.

I'm really not comfortable with misleading sprites, so if he has a shield, he should use it. But of course enemies that can block in Doom engine games are the fucking worst thing ever.

>> No.1942431

>>1942201
Chillax maybe? I used to play that shit on Zandronum

>> No.1942437

>>1942405
doom 1 isnt much different, gameplay then was 90% normal shotgun and 10% everything else too

>> No.1942458

>>1942437
I'd argue it was more balanced in Doom, where you would focus on using weapons that would do the best job of killing opponents quickly.

>> No.1942512

>>1942297
imo you should remove the helmet (but keep the horns)

>> No.1942518

>>1942297
I was wondering, is there some sort of program that can make sprite sheets like this, or do I have to spend 1000 hours in MSPaint?

>> No.1942572 [DELETED] 

Piss off Doom shits.

>> No.1942580 [DELETED] 

>>1942323
They're both piss easy games and Doom 1 is even pissier than Doom 2. If you have a problem with either you're a fucking retard, but that is common for Doom babies so no problem, you're right at home.

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>>1942580
This is shitposting, but I'm gonna respond anyway. I can understand DooM being easy, but 2 is actually difficult. And have you ever played E4 of 1? That shit's insane.

>> No.1942614

>>1942518
imagemagick, specifically montage

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>>1942218
OH BOB SAGET!

>> No.1942650 [DELETED] 

>>1942597
Wow, you suck so much ass it's unreal. I can play Doom 2 half way brain dead and still shit through that whole thing like nobody's business. E4 is also piss. I really don't understand why you faggots are so utterly terrible at video games. Fuck Doom babies, christ.

>> No.1942654 [DELETED] 

>>1942597
>>1942650
Also I played through all of Doom 1&2 keyboard only way back when I was like 10.

When I was 14 I played through both Final Doom episodes keyboard only.

>And have you ever played E4 of 1?
Are you ACTUALLY fucking serious? It's 2014 you retarded baby.

>> No.1942660 [DELETED] 

>>1942654
>>1942650
>not beating Alien Vendetta with one hand on the keyboard, another around a device that must be held with your hand, otherwise a bear-trap springs over your nuts, and while drinking window-wipe with shoe polish, at the age of 7
Fucking scrub.

>> No.1942661 [DELETED] 

>>1942660
>doombabby humour
lol so funnee xD

>> No.1942693 [DELETED] 

You people realize the only reason he's still around is because you keep fucking responding to him, right?

>> No.1942698 [DELETED] 

>>1942693
Fuck off Donald

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How's DoomRL? Not the Arsenal pk3, the roguelike.
Watching The Goddamn Doomguy play it now and it looks interesting, but is there anyone familiar with roguelikes who can comment on it?

>> No.1942706

>>1942702
It's nice and fast paces. Differs from other roguelikes because of the focus on ranged combat, and because of the bitchin' tiles, sound effects and music. Tons of weapons, both unique and assembled, and special levels.
Doesn't play a whole lot like Doom, you probably will take cover more than you will strafe (there is a strafing mechanic, mind you).
I say give it a try, it's free and fun. Pretty hard too on the higher skill settings.

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>> No.1942717

>>1942706

It's fun and fast-paced, but hard as shit to beat.

>> No.1942718 [DELETED] 

>>1942709
>tumblr
kill yourself

>> No.1942719 [DELETED] 

>>1942423
>Doom veterans
>/vr/
lol

>> No.1942728 [DELETED] 

>>1942423
>Doom veterans
lmao

>> No.1942735

>>1942418

Well either way, it's great effort. It's definitely something that should be saved for future use at the very least.

>> No.1942736 [DELETED] 

>>1942719
>>1942728

famesag

>> No.1942738 [DELETED] 

>>1942736
>denialfag
how's that coping mechanism working for you son?

>> No.1942739 [DELETED] 

>>1942738

>damage control

>> No.1942740 [DELETED] 

>>1942739
>you wish

>> No.1942742

i didn't get into doom until 1997, by which time quake was already old hat.

>> No.1942746

>>1942423

I thought it was fun, but the modding scene never got anywhere near as great, so eventually I just skipped out.

>> No.1942747 [DELETED] 

>>1942739
>being this butthurt
top lel

>> No.1942748 [DELETED] 

>>1940687

but it would be fucking better to discuss it instead of replying to bait, even if some stupid fuckheads KNOW they're being baited

>> No.1942752 [DELETED] 

Fuck off Doomfaggots
You killed /vr/ with your cancerous shit, damn kids

>> No.1942758

>>1942423

Quake was fun and very different, but not Doomy. Quake II was more a sequel to the Doom series.

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You're doing god's work, mods 'n jans.

Have a pepsi.

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What went wrong?

>> No.1942768

>>1942764
Costs and laziness.

>> No.1942769

>>1942764
People realized that 12-year-olds were an untapped market.

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i'm making a doom museum in E1M1 using Anarchy Arcade
this Gmota machine is set to start up with congestion 1024
so i need more suggestions on gameplay mods + mapsets to fill up my arcade with

so far i have
>GMOTA + Congestion1024
>BrutalDoomSE + Doom
>Burl Tumd + Doom2

>> No.1942778

>>1942764
I love Doom for that reason, all these amazing levelsets, and they do it for free!

>> No.1942779

>>1942774
Add a DemonSteele cabinet.

>> No.1942780

>>1942764
Devs became lazy. Consumers became dumb.

It's sad, really. At least there's still people making fun games. Even if games like New Super Mario Bros. aren't much different from one to the other, at least they're fun. I honestly played MW2 and it was boring. If they at least made the games fun and enjoyable, it wouldn't be as painful. at least MW1's arcade mode was pretty fun

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Just a reminder that there is a Duke deal right now.

>> No.1942791

>>1942786
b-but i already have both of those games

if i had the money i would definitely make some gifts tho

>> No.1942802

>>1942786
Shit, Duke AND Shadow Warrior for only three bucks?
Tempting.

>> No.1942819

>>1942779
that's definitely priority, but i want the definitive mapset for it too, what would that be?

>> No.1942831

>>1942774
AtM + BTSX ?
reelism?
[OBLIGE map generated on the spot] + doomRLA + monsters?

>> No.1942839

>>1942437
>>1942458
>>1942405
For me
doom 2 was:
>30% rocket launcher, 40% super shotty, 20% BFG, 10% rest of arsenal.
Chaingun was way too slow and an hassle to fire when strafing at the speed of light, same thing goes for Plasma Gun. There were some rare situations where you get the hold of BFG to clear rooms or speedkill some big bads. From up close it's always Super Shotgun, and from distance it's always about Rocket Launcher. Super Shotgun simply buries Shotgun to the ground, perhaps that's why you don't feel the same as Doom 1.

doom 1 was:
>40% shotgun, 20% chaingun, 20% rocket launcher, 10% plasma gun, 10% rest of arsenal.
To kill Barons from up close you use Plasma Gun and finding BFG is about luck. Chaingun may make quick work of trash in a long distance, or you can quickly focus your fire to the barrels. Rocket Launcher is when you have distance or height advantage against lots of trash or a few big targets. For everything else you simply fall back to your Shotgun.

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>>1942764
There's nothing really WRONG with linear games. If you can create a good, fun, linear game, then cool. And it's not like linear games are anything NEW.

>> No.1942905

>>1942903
Maybe. But CoD executes it very poorly.

>> No.1942920

>>1942831
how could i get an oblige map to generate on the spot?

>> No.1942924

>>1942920
Have the cabinet run oblige with certain settings (probably a lot of random settings so you get a completely random map), saving it to a pre-determined file.
Then have it run GZDoom with DoomRL and the file that you just had it save.

Basic command-line-fu, Anon.

>> No.1942928

>>1942924
how would i have oblige auto generate a map without interfacing with the program though?

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>>1942905
Right. CoD isn't really a very good example of it. The first three Halo games, in my opinion, are a good example of linear game design. The levels generally progress in a linear fashion, but they're big and open, with little secrets tucked away.

Pic related. It was the best map I could find.

>> No.1942932

>>1942928
I'm sure there's a few options for the program that can be run from command line.
Have the first result from Google.
http://oblige.sourceforge.net/forum/index.php?topic=135.0

>> No.1942935

>>1942928
and i can only have the cabinet run one shortcut at a time, unless i make it another command line batch file
it would be easier to rig up a button next to the cabinet that does the oblige part, and then i also need oblige to overwrite the same map file each time

in fact that could solve a lot of my issues for combining the games with map packs, if i just have them all use the same randomly generated oblige file, just havea big button in the arcade that generates new maps

i want this plz tell me how

>> No.1942947

>>1942932
that seems like it might do the trick, but i need to find the rest of the value codes

>> No.1942951 [DELETED] 

Why is Zandorum such a piece of shit?

I've found a cool mod I want to run but apparently it work only with fucking Zandorum. The website looks like it's been designed by a colorblind retard, same thing for the fucking icon, what is that supposed to be? A robot with gay sunglasses? WHAT THE FUCKING SHIT?! and this piece of crap won't even fucking start.

Fuck Zandorum, fuck it right in the pussy. What a giant piece of shit. Fuck.

>> No.1942957

>>1942903
Linear in storytelling sure. Literally linear in level design? Fuck no, especially not for FPS. It just turns into a boring shooting gallery.

There's really EVERYTHING WRONG with linear games.

>> No.1942959

>>1942951
>A robot with gay sunglasses? WHAT THE FUCKING SHIT?!
You really need to take a deep breath and relax.

>> No.1942962 [DELETED] 

>>1942951

Scream some more, your tears amuse me.

>> No.1942964

>>1942959
Not him, but what IS that helmet supposed to be? It almost reminds me of the armor bonuses

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>>1942964

That's pretty much what it is.
A more sci-fi visor, a Z-shaped crack, and viola.

>> No.1942974 [DELETED] 

>>1942951
hi ednerd :^) btw how is that sonic fanfic going?

>> No.1943003

>>1942935
>>1942947
>>1942932
>>1942924
got it guys, i figured it all out

>> No.1943005

>>1942969
Well it looks like shit a 13 year old would doodle in his scrapbook during math class.

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Anybody remember Project MSX? No?
Can't blame you; this thing updates every half-century or so.
I went ahead and modified the things that I didn't like, feel free to check it out.

-The Autoshotgun now fires a rapid 4-shot burst, and reloads faster.

-The assault rifle now fires an accurate 3-burst while scoped.

-No need to hold 'R' to reload the Nail Shotgun

-Made Kabros less aggravating by slowing their movement, attack, and fireballs. Also lowered their health somewhat.

https://www.mediafire.com/?cflxfvxp4s1eq7d

>> No.1943039

What is a server binary and why can't fucking zandronum find it?

I set everything up like described in the manual and this shit still won't work and what fucking progamm won't run on itself and actually require a fucking launcher to run offline?

This fucking piece of shit is driving me nuts.

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>>1943039

Are you usually this technically incompetent?

>> No.1943047

>>1942291
Is this all the maps or just the ones for episode 3? The file says E3, but I don't see any other download links.

>> No.1943053

>>1943045
Yes, downright retarded, but I do not understand why I would need any server shit to play OFFLINE anyway. Maybe you can shine some light on that as the tech genius you seem to be.

>> No.1943060

>>1943045
Do you think it's good design to require Doomseeker to run Zandronum? Why the fuck can't it run on its own offline?

Why the fuck do I even need to fuck with the launcher to play OFFLINE? This is bullshit.

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>>1943060
>Do you think it's good design to require Doomseeker to run Zandronum? Why the fuck can't it run on its own offline?

It doesn't require Doomseeker.
It can run on its own offline.
That's the punchline to this.

>> No.1943076

>>1943047
It's all the maps. Map01-11 are episode 1, Map12-20 + 31 and 32 are episode 2, and Map21-30 are episode 3.

>> No.1943093

>>1943074
Well I tried that and the program is just not starting up. There's no technical incompetence involved. I double click the incredibly ugly icon and the programm simple does not run. Doesn't even respond. Doesn't come up and crash, just nothing. You are welcome to laugh your ass off about that but it is not my fault.

When I try to use Doomseeker it asks for binary server files and also doesn't respond when I click play offline after setting the correct paths to the iwad and pwad files.

>> No.1943104

>you will never know what it feels like to be resurrected by an archvile

Why?

>> No.1943109

>>1943032
The bolt-carrier on that shotgun looks mysteriously like that of an M16, ridges on the side for the (non-existent) forward assist and everything.

>> No.1943114

>>1943060
there are better choices for playing offline than zandronum.

>> No.1943115

>>1943093
>and the program is just not starting up

In that case, just sounds like a case of you installing it wrong. Maybe your download crapped out halfway, or something stopped your install early.

>You are welcome to laugh your ass off about that

Nah, fun time is over until the next stream of swears and screams, help time is now.

>> No.1943116

>>1942323
I feel like this really downplays just how big of a deal the new enemies in Doom 2 are. I won't argue that Doom 2's map quality is inconsistent, but the enemies the game adds are still a huge deal. Doom 2 itself may not use them as well as a lot of later level packs, but the first game's bestiary is really basic in comparison.

>> No.1943118

Has HDoom had any progress lately?

>> No.1943124

>>1943118

Pinky girl has a daily dose styled animation now. It's pretty neat.

>> No.1943125

>>1943118

http://hdoomguy.tumblr.com/

>> No.1943126

>>1943114
Yeah, there sure are but I'm trying to run a mod I found on http://www.best-ever.org/wads and GZDoom gives me an error message, so since it's apparently a Zandronum related site I figured I would use that to run it. I didn't expect such a clusterfuck,

www.best-ever.org/download?file=realgunsclassic_v9.wad

Is the mod in question. GZDoom tells me 1 errors while parsing DECORATE scripts

>>1943115
I'll try downloading it again.

>> No.1943137

>>1943126

Ah, here's the problem. This wasn't designed for Zandronum, either. This was designed years ago for the dead source port Skulltag, and it relies on Skulltag actors and data in order to function.
Give me a moment, I'll edit it to work with ZDoom.

>> No.1943140

>>1943137
so he just needs to load skulltag_*.pk3 before it?

>> No.1943146

>>1943140

Yes, but judging by his reaction he's probably not a fan of Zandronum, and if he's having troubles getting it to work it'll probably be better to just do what very few tweaks are needed to get it running on something he's more comfortable with.
Besides, I have five minutes to blow.

>> No.1943158

>>1943137
Thanks, if you could do that, that would be kind.

>>1943146
I actually have both those pk3s for a different mod, the skulltag actors and data, but I just tried loading them in front of this mod in GZDoom and it just gives me a different error message.

>> No.1943170

>>1943158

https://www.dropbox.com/s/3iwk9963sjgredv/realgunsclassic_v9-zd.wad

Tested on the latest GZDoom SVN and there was still some red text, but nothing that stopped it from loading.
The ACS will still whine about Zandronum on map start, but the creators were idiots that didn't include the ACS source, so I can't edit that out.

If there's any problems, let me know.

>> No.1943180

>>1943170

Thank you. I'll give it a try right away.

>> No.1943193

>>1943170
Works like a charm.

>> No.1943196 [DELETED] 

>>1942930
>Doom and Halo babbies on 2014 4chan are the same
interesting

>> No.1943261

>>1942297
>>1942350
>>1942380
I like this guy. Keep at it!

>> No.1943285
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>>1942380

BILLIE JEAN IS NOT MY LOVER
SHE'S JUST A GIRL WHO CLAIMS THAT IIII AM THE OOONE
BUT THE KID IS NOT MY SOOOON

>> No.1943324
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>>1942786
reposting for anybody who just bought Duke

>> No.1943330
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1943330

Hey, decided to realease the second map of the Episode for UDoom I'm working on. The map is on the E1M2 slot and requires a limit removing port to be played. The first map can be found on /idgames, it is called Uplift :
http://www.mediafire.com/download/l1qw14m16ebf1do/Deeper.wad

Pic-related : a screen of the E1M3 currently W.I.P. not very interesting screen but have nothing else to show that I didn't post yet.

>> No.1943372

>>1942957

Eh? No. It just can't be a corridor shooter. Multiple different paths is more RPG fare. Like, Half-Life and HL2 are examples of good linear design where newer Call of Duty games and BioShock Infinite are examples of bad linear design. The main trick is to make the linear game feel non-linear.

>> No.1943373

>>1943324
Holy shit!
I didn't even know this was a thing.

Time for some douk.

>> No.1943389

>>1943372
That's why I said not literally linear. That is the worst.

Well done linearity is still bad though, it's not something I really enjoy. I jsut love the maze like fashion of Doom maps and I'm sad there's no other modern FPS making use of that style.

I greatly enjoyed Stalker for the relative openess of its maps. Other than that I really do not enjoy modern FPS much.

>> No.1943391

>>1942181
I never got this whole "ten hour loop" fad.

Do people actually watch these or what?

>> No.1943392

>>1943324
>P2P multiplayer is fucking terrible
now if only someone else would learn

>> No.1943394

>>1943389

Well, DOOM is still linear. It's just a really intricate and convoluted linear. You're still going down basically just one path from entrance A to exit B. But, it's very well-done linear if you like mazes and shit.

>> No.1943404
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>>1943391

Well, some people like music enough to have it one loop, but not usually. It's more for the comedy aspect of something being 10 hours than anyone actually wanting it.

Compare it to this reaction image. No, the image doesn't need to be scaled to such a ludicrous size as it doesn't really gain anything from it, but the implication that it would be scaled to that size creates the humour. It's funny because an image of that size would just be silly, and the same logic holds for 10 hour mixes of anything. It's a very simple joke, but I don't suppose it's that obvious considering everyone thinks there's some deeper implication than just "Heh, 10 hours. 10 hours of that! That's funny."

>> No.1943405

>>1943394
Not, it's not linear at all. You are being stupid. It's a maze like structure in which you can often choose between two or more paths you want to explore until you hit a stopping stone or until you just feel like going somewhere else. You can comb through maps or just go into one direction until you hit a road block. That is the exact opposite of linear.

Does it have an entrance and an exist, yes absolutely, but that does not dictate linearity at all. You are being extremely silly.

>> No.1943408

>>1943391

I sometimes open up ambient electronica or jazz 10-hour-loops, since it's great background music and means I don't have to change the song.

>> No.1943413

>>1943405

Many maps are entirely linear. It has branches to its paths, yes, but you must generally move in one basic progression. You can run around all you like, but you still end up needing to go down X path to get a key or a button to unlock path Y. There are occasional branched paths that go to unnecessary areas for goodies and shit, but DOOM is still basically linear. It's just not Call of Duty linear.

>> No.1943436

>>1943413
You just don't understand what linear means.

You see this map on the right here>>1942764 ? It is LINEAR, it is shaped like a line, literally. Doom maps on the other hand are square or round or whatever shape but mostly square. That is not linear in DESIGN, nigger. Of course there is a linear progression ULTIMATELY but you have that in every game. Even in GTA you only get certain quests after you completed other quests (same principle as getting a keycard to open a door) By your ridiculously loose definition of linear, there would be no nonlinear games at all.

Again, you are being extremely stupid. To the point I think you might just be trolling because I'm hoping nobody is actually that stupid for real.

>> No.1943441

>>1943436
>Of course there is a linear progression ULTIMATELY but you have that in every game.
Not necessarily. Many games have no end goal at all.

>> No.1943460
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>>1943405
So a map like this one should be considered non-linear, because it fits a square format?

Stop being silly. You clearly know nothing about level design. When you are so angry that you start doing laughable typos, its time to move away from your keyboard.

>> No.1943486

>>1943441

You're saying that games where we give you an objective to reach is linear so... you haveno idea of waht linear is right?

>> No.1943492

>>1943441
Many?... Yeah, okay.

And I sure hope you like those randomly generated or repeating quests.

>>1943460
Are you fucking retarded? Doom maps have lots of forks and different areas to explore, that is just a line with some curves. Are you sure you don't want to take that out and pretend you are just trolling because you are being embarrassingly retarded.

Also, when you get to that point where you have to attack your opponent based on typos, it's time for you to stop arguing and shut your ass up because clearly you've run out of valid points to make, not that you had any to begin with.

>> No.1943495

>>1942774
That's pretty neat. Care to give a little video tour of your arcade once you're done?

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>>1943460

>Lel you're angry because I shitpost.

To make it simple, something is considered not linear as soon as you have multiple routes to reach your objective.

pic related :For you retard here is what you have to understand BASICALLY

>> No.1943501

>>1943441
Flappy birds confirmed nonlinear

>> No.1943505

The worst of all about CoD's level design is that it has been getting worse and worse, in early ones, you had some levels where you could choose a path or have areas with different places to visit, some things were even optional. Now it's just a line with NOTHING to make you feel like it's something else

>> No.1943509

So I'm trying this thing where I severely limit the item placement in the Doom 2 campaign. The idea is that I find it really fun when I start running out of ammo or health and am forced to really think things through and conserve those precious HUD digits, so I thought "what if the entire game were this mind-numbingly tedious?".

So I'm trying this thing.

>> No.1943517

>>1943509
Give people lots of berserker packs and early on each level so they aren't totally fucked if they run out. It'll be very difficult to balance and to make fair enough to keep people from just rage quitting.

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>>1943517
Does this look like the face of mercy?

>> No.1943527

>>1943524
yes

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Quake live is coming to Steam tomorrow apparently.

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>>1943543
Fug, wrong pic. Still related tho

>> No.1943549

>>1943543
>>1943547
It didn't come to steam already?

>> No.1943554

>>1943549
Nope, it had a pair of updates tho.

>> No.1943563

>>1943543
>>1943547
Cool. Will download.

>> No.1943569

>>1943497
Or a means to download it?

>> No.1943571

>>1943569
I totally will too.
Probably with a new account to clear my stats.
thus begins the search for a name, fuck

>> No.1943572

>>1943571
Acguysbellend

>> No.1943586

>>1943118

Considering the sheer amount of development delayment and arguments between the devs, I wouldn't be surprised if they don't even want to touch Hdoom again.

note: this post is a http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joke

>>1943543

>If I could start again...
>A million miles away...

>> No.1943591

Help me out for the good of getting a mate into Doom, what's the best way to play splitscreen doom on PC?

>> No.1943597

>>1943591
Uhhhh... maybe emulate one of the console versions? Although none of them are as good as PC that's the only way I can think of.

>> No.1943602

>>1942735

I'll save it for later use. Definitely.

I've been thinking about the imp warlord and his shield, rather than removing it, maybe I can give him a shield blocking mechanic similar to chex guy's BFG in samsara: as in rather than full invincibility from every angle, he'd have a forward projecting shield that blocks stuff, but players can still charge forward and sword their face off

>> No.1943618
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1943618

Finally got around to finishing BTSX E2. Man was it a blast. There were some bland levels that seemed boring but the music and atmosphere was top-fucking-notch. Did anyone else have a problem with hemorrhaging ammo in the first half of it? Also

>mfw map24

>> No.1943624

>>1943618
what is that and where do i get it?

>> No.1943628

>>1943618
Everytime I run into an ammo sparse map I just enable ammo x2 in the options menu. I know it's kinda cheating but it's still limited and I feel better about it than just going give ammo in the console. I also just blast away so much that the still limited nature is still felt.

I can manage a map with little health pick ups but I don't have time for not enough ammo.

>> No.1943630

>>1943624
Literally google BTSX Doom and you will find it.

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>>1943630
i did, god!

>> No.1943648
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1943648

This is making the sky a HOM and skipping over the intermission text entirely. How do I fix this?

>> No.1943651

>>1943591
Doom Legacy.

>> No.1943654

>>1943618
>BTSX Doom

The first really did not want to cooperate with the mods I usually roll with. When I tried to get past the palette discrepancies, I just sort of lost interest.

Don't get me wrong, I was digging the music and the maps are extremely well-constructed, but it just didn't hold my interest for some reason. Maybe it was just too well-rounded and unoffensive or something.

Is E2 any kind of shift, should I check it out?

>> No.1943660

>>1943543
do you mean it will NEED steam?
i'm glad they did that bullshit update with the loadouts and all, it allowed me to drop the game without regrets

>> No.1943664

>>1943660
I don't see why Steam would be required. Also, I played after that update and it's not bad at all. People are just being fucking paranoid.

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>>1943660
What's wrong with Steam, anon?

>> No.1943670

>>1943664
>not bad at all
>can respawn with a grenade launcher and a rocket launcher
this kills the game

>>1943667
well, to be honest it all boils down to "i don't like it"
i don't like Valve sticking his dick in (and getting a cut off) other games,
i don't like not owning games i pay for
i don't like having some spam-filled program running in the background while i play
i don't like having so-called friends bother me while i play...
and a lot of other small things like that

>> No.1943674

>>1943654
>Is E2 any kind of shift, should I check it out?

Yes, but, psst, try giving it a playthrough without mods.

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>>1943670
>i don't like Valve sticking his dick in (and getting a cut off) other games,
that's just how stores work anon!
>i don't like not owning games i pay for
You can play most games you buy on steam without steam
>i don't like having some spam-filled program running in the background while i play
define spam
>i don't like having so-called friends bother me while i play...
don't add friends/go offline while you play

>> No.1943679

>>1943670
>i don't like having so-called friends bother me while i play...
You can set yourself to appear Offline. Or just not send friend requests.
>i don't like having some spam-filled program running in the background while i play
I don't even know what this means.

>> No.1943687
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1943687

how is doom64?

>> No.1943693

>if you don't like it, then don't use it

seems like I heard it before

anyway

http://www.doomworld.com/idgames/?random

>> No.1943696

>>1943678
yeah, "stores", valve is supposed to make video games, not just sell them

oh yeah, about selling, how is that conversion rate treating you?

>>1943687
see for yourself? i heard it was good, but haven't tried it yet.

>> No.1943698

>>1943660
Dunno, I won't be mad if it is.
>>1943670
>>not bad at all
>>can respawn with a grenade launcher and a rocket launcher
>this kills the game
Not really, you spawn with low as fuck ammo and you still gotta get health and armor, and it isn't on all gamemodes. Helps against spawnraping, which is just not fun and feels unfair, specially in FFA.

>> No.1943704

>>1943698
My biggest gripe with Quake live was how one turbonerd could learn the map so well it prevented anyone from getting any guns
now i can spawn with my beloved shotty and not have to worry about =xXPUSSE_SLAYIR98Xx= ganking me with palsma

>> No.1943708

>>1943687

Doom 64 is the real Doom 3.

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>> No.1943713

>>1943648
Tried checking the ZDoom wiki, and I think I'm definitely doing something wrong, but the stuff in the picture is copypasted from a WAD that works and I dunno what needs to be changed. Help?

>> No.1943714

Are there any fun mods for Doom that I can go back and play WADs with for a different experience?

>> No.1943719

>>1943714

-fast

>> No.1943724

>>1943714

If you're looking for a different experience, pretty much every radically-changing gameplay mod will give you something new.
GMOTA, Mercenaries, DemonSteele, Satanic, Lasting Light, Metrood, Dragon Doom Z, etc, etc.

>> No.1943728

>>1943714
Get Hideous Destructor.


Good luck.

>> No.1943730

>>1943714
Brutal Doom

>> No.1943732

>>1943710
I wonder how an Evil Dead game made by Platinum Games would turn out.

>> No.1943735

>>1943732

Knowing them?
Cuh-razy.

Fistful of Boomstick was actually kind of decent.

>> No.1943751

>>1943714
Try Brutal Doom Sperglord edition.

>> No.1943775

>>1943032
1)Unnecessary, you could have made the magazine bigger
2)Silly thing, its better to tap the mouse than a simple burst fire
3)You just went full dum
4)Pointless

>> No.1943787

Huh, GZDoom SVN made it from 1.9 to 2.1, skipping 2.0. How'd that happen?

>> No.1943794

>>1943787

Wait, what?
>checks
Oh wow, you're right.
What in the world?

>> No.1943795

>>1943787

[WORRY.JPG]

>> No.1943798 [SPOILER] 
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>>1943787
I thought it was the Blood compatibility, but then I found this on the ZDoom wiki.

>Randy had reverse-engineered more of Blood's data structures, but lost this work in a hard drive crash.

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>>1943798

>> No.1943820

>>1943798
oh my fucking god

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>>1943798

ARE YOU FUCKING MAKING FUN OF US NOW, SATAN
I SWEAR
I FUCKING SWEAR

WHAT DID WE EVER DO TO YOU

>> No.1943845

>>1943798

Man people just keep losing things in this community.

>> No.1943889

>>1943714
Project MSX for a new school twist onto things
Samsara for a mix for varies old school heros kyle katarn best addon
Metriod because reasons

>> No.1943898

>>1943775
-Increasing the magazine size won't make the weapon more useful. The thing is already quite redundant considering the assault rifle is good enough both at a distance and close-range.
-I agree, but it's more fun that way for me. To each their own.
-I know why the thing reloaded like it did, and reload cancelling is great and all, but holding 'reload' while circle-strafing all over the place was more trouble than it's worth.
-Again, to each their own.

>> No.1943917

>>1943898
>The thing is already quite redundant considering the assault rifle is good enough both at a distance and close-range.
Yeah, you sure can oneshot everything up to Barons with the assault rifle.

>> No.1943923
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so what do people think of Strife around here? I get bored sometimes because the maps are so bloody huge but otherwise it's pretty neat IMO

>> No.1943927
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>>1943917
Of course there aren't seven weapons with which to deal with the various hell baddies.

Seriously though, why would you use the autoshotgun for anything other than humans, demons, and imps? Are you seriously dumb enough to not use the nail shotgun or the plasma rifle or even your charged fists to kill Barons?

2/10 fell for it

>> No.1943928

>>1943927
Oh wait, autoshotgun, not nailshotgun. My bad. Autoshotgun's god-tier for stunlocking everything up to cacodemons, though.

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>>1943798
WHY THE FUCK DOESNT ANYONE BACK ANYTHING UP ONLINE

>> No.1943934

>>1943923
I like it--has the puzzly things from Hexen, but has a way to check your objectives.
Also has dialogue, with suitably cheesy reactions and outcomes.

>> No.1943935

>>1943928
I'll give you that. It's still too weak to deal any real damage to even a caco, however. The burst fire thing was only to try and distance it from the assault rifle.

>> No.1943942

>>1943935
>It's still too weak to deal any real damage to even a caco, however
It takes out cacodemons in half a mag while the assault rifle uses 3/4ths of a mag to do the same. Dunno what you're talking about.

>> No.1943961

>>1943942
Ok, worded that wrong.

I mean that both the rifle and autoshotty are used to deal with imps and humans (and maybe demons), but you should really be using other weapons against cacos and above. The nail shotgun one-shots cacos, and ammo for it isn't rare, while other monsters can butt-fuck you by the time you empty 12 auto-sg shots onto a single caco.

Also, the rifle can do whatever the autoshotty can do and at a longer range, so the auto-sg is redundant and underpowered in the regular mod.

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>>1943930

>> No.1943985

>>1943586
I WOULD KEEP MYSELF
I WOULD FIND A WAY

>> No.1944001

>>1943497

DOOM doesn't have multiple routes to reach your objective, barring a few secrets that lead you to other spots on the map. No, they're not /just/ a line, but they /are/ linear.

>> No.1944009

>>1944001
god why are you bringing this stupid argument up again?

>> No.1944020

>>1943572
what

>> No.1944046

Do you guys know any cool adventure/surreal WADs that are more about exploration than killing monsters?

>> No.1944049

>>1944046
Phocas Island 2 and Foreverhood.

>> No.1944058

>>1944049
>and Foreverhood
>tfw downloaded Foreverhood
>tfw it ended after 2 levels
>tfw we will never learn what the fuck happened with that floaty eye thing

>> No.1944163

>>1944046

Oniria.
Oniria is fucking awesome and I will stab anyone that says otherwise.

>> No.1944239
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>"Why are you doing this, brother? You must be a Starcraft champion like our father!"

>"But...."

>"What, brother?!"

>"But...I like to kill space marines"

(Dramatic music)

>> No.1944305

>>1944239

Well, I'm interested.

>> No.1944405

>>1942717
>DoomRL
>hard
Its one of the easiest roguelikes. Try playing Nethack or ADOM.

>> No.1944478

>>1944405

I've been playing roguelikes since DOS, and I find DoomRL extremely difficult. It's mostly because there isn't a certain way to avoid projectiles. I find both Nethack and ADOM a lot easier.

How do you do it?

>> No.1944483

Shit, Doom is so fucking fun.

BTW, whoever posted about that $4 DN3D/SW special on Steam, as many thanks as humanly possible.

>> No.1944484

>>1943713
Sky1 should be the sky texture name, like R_SKY1 or whatever. F_SKY is the flat you use to make skyboxes.

>> No.1944485

>>1942764
They decided it was better to the whole game a hallway with special effects

>> No.1944493

>>1942802

>not getting it

All the expansions too.

>> No.1944506

>>1943618
congratulations, now go back and do pistol starts and 100% kills. :)


nearly all maps give the player a berserk box fairly quickly so i never had much trouble with ammunition.

>> No.1944554
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Yo are there any wads that change the Armor Bonus sprite to a Doomguy helmet or armor shards? Having knight helms everywhere really tickles my autism

>> No.1944570

>>1944554

https://www.dropbox.com/s/gkxtubll7haeh9s/helmetbonus.wad

>> No.1944571

>>1943798
>but lost this work in a hard drive crash.
Fuck and PISS!

>> No.1944579

>>1944570
>>1944570
Thanks anon!
...Did you just make this?

>> No.1944591

>>1944579

Yup.
Between here and other boards, I'm apparently the go-to guy for making quick and fast little changes to things for people, haha.

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>>1943391
>>1943404

Do you mongs not understand AGITATION?

>> No.1944608

if you could replace one Doom weapon with something of your choosing, what would you replace?

I'd swap the pistol out for one that fires as fast as you can click, but has to be reloaded after a few shots.

Infinite reloads of course because that'smyfetish.png

>> No.1944612

>>1944608

I'd replace the chainsaw with a super-accurate revolver because I like revolvers and I'd like having a dedicated heavy long-range weapon and never use the chainsaw

>> No.1944625

>>1944478
Not him but I've played DoomRL and got a normal win in an older version before they added an episode.

The best way to not get hurt in DoomRL is not being in a position where you can even be fired upon. Several things you need to learn in DoomRL aren't in any other roguelike and are peculiar and not really intuitive.

Radarshooting
>firing blindly at out of sight areas, listening for the pain sounds, also listening for the idle noises monsters make which tells you when enemies are near+roughly where they are, headphones help hugely
Cornershooting
>with the strange way the targeting works, many weapons can be fired from position around a corner from an enemy. Leading an enemy into a favourable position where they can't hit you but you can hit them is one of the most important things in DoomRL

/vg/'s Roguelike General (>>>/vg/roguelike) has a pastebin with some tips:
http://pastebin.com/2vZsvsfD

>> No.1944627

>>1944612

a revolver huh? Hm, how would you get ammo for it besides picking up other chainsaws?

Also I'm gonna start writing this shit down, I want to make this weapon pack later

>> No.1944628

>>1943032
While you're at it could you perchance modify the HUD to support 2560x1440?

>> No.1944630

>>1944627

A lot of revolvers use the same ammo as handguns, iirc.

>> No.1944635

>>1944630

Well if I make it use the same ammo pool as the chaingun, I'd have to make it shoot slower to compensate.

Maybe make it consume 12 bullets for reloading 6 shots because video games

Come on people I'm really liking this idea of a /doom/ weapon pack, I already got the pistol covered and this anon here has the chainsaw. Throw out some suggestions for the other weapons

Try to keep it within vanilla power levels because I'm just gonna make a weapon set for vanilla monsters in mind

>> No.1944639

>>1944635
uhhhhhhhhhh
plasma rifle replaced with a specialized heavy machine gun ripped from its mount
utilizes special hollow-jacket/armor-piercing rounds that rip through organic and metal alike and then die out a little bit behind the target

great for crowd suppression

>> No.1944647

>>1944639

hm, does it -have- to be a machinegun that fires bullets? I could make it fire slugs that rip and fade out, but I kinda want to stay within the confines of vanilla doom ammunition as well

>> No.1944648

>>1944647
sure
i prefer bullets over laser pew pew stuff, but you can change it to fire wet noodles if it works better

>> No.1944651

>>1944648

I could still give it a hearty THOONKA THOONKA THOONKA, just for you anon, I'll make it consume cells though.

>> No.1944659

Also if no one wants to take the fists I have a suggestion:

a flail, left click flails it around and right click sends out the flail like an extendo blunt force trauma attack.

>> No.1944701
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>>1943923

As much as I like Strife, I felt that its monsters were underwhelming when you got to the late-game (even at Nightmare difficulty). Some of them seriously needed to be, at the very least, tougher, like the Inquisitor.

>> No.1944745

DAY Z IN DOOM

Anybody read about this? im really excited

>> No.1944754
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>>1944745

>> No.1944760

>>1944754
i actually find dayZ boring

>> No.1944761

>>1944754
isn't dayZ so glitchy it can barely be played?

>> No.1944762

>>1944608
I honestly couldn't outright replace any of them.
If anything, I'd just alter them slightly while still keeping things relatively vanilla.

>> No.1944776
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>>1944630
That would... kind of depend.
Revolvers are typically chambered for rimmed cartridges, like .38 Special, .44 Special .45 Colt, .357 Magnum, .44 Magnum, etc, while exceedingly few semi-automatic pistols are chambered for these.

There's the Desert Eagle, but that's an outlier (and frankly, not a particularly practical combat weapon, even if it looks cool as shit), models exist in .357 and .44.
There's the Coonan, a 1911 derivative, which is chambered for .357, and can shoot .38 Special if you replace the recoil spring with a lighter one.
Colt has made some regular 1911 pistols chambered for .38 Special, but only wad-cutters (normal rounds wont fit), specifically as a target pistol.
There's just not many automatics that shoot revolver cartridges, most wouldn't find it worth the hassle.

Now, there's revolvers that can shoot cartridges meant for automatics, but typically, these require half-moon or full-moon clips for extraction, there's old US Army revolvers chambered for .45ACP, that use moon clips (made during WW2, to fill in gaps with non-frontline troops, due to shortage of 1911 pistols), there's also British Webley revolvers in .455 Webley, that have been "converted" to accept .45ACP cartridges in their cylinder (with modified Webley moon-clips), and it does work (but this was never safe, as .45ACP is many times higher in pressure than .455 Webley).
I know that .32ACP will fit in .32 caliber revolvers, and usually extract well, due to having a semi-rim.

Smith & Wesson currently is making a new revolver 9x19mm Parabellum, that uses moon clips (seven round cylinder, 5" half-lugged barrel, seems like a very nice little gun). Ruger has made single-action revolvers in .30 Carbine, without moon-clips, for what it's worth.
What remains is .22LR, for which automatics, revolvers, manual actions, and everything is made, but it's not a powerhouse of a round.

>> No.1944782 [DELETED] 

>>1944776
>That would... blah blah blah.
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>blah blah blah .blah, blah blah blah, blah, blah blah, blah blah blah blah, blah blah'blah blah blah blah blah blah blah.

No-one cares, it's a game.

>> No.1944783
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>>1944782

>greentexting all of that just to mock him

You're a faggot dude. Let the anon have his gunporn factoids. Gun porn and doom go well together

>> No.1944792

>>1943798
This sounds like the same lame excuse he's used for ZDoom 3.0 but i could be wrong.

>> No.1944794
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1944794

So, this is fun.

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>>1944776
I think you're a pretty cool guy

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>>1944794
A bit on the buggy side though, inventory items can still be used, but you can't see the inventory bar and you have to be able to switch between them blind.

>> No.1944798

>>1944796
The alternate attack on the power gauntlet really helps with clearing rooms full of assholes too.

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>>1944798
Whoops, forgot my picture.

Also I tried this with Heretic and it just plain didn't work very well.

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>>1944803
Seriously, I had never seen those green serpent fuckers die as fast as I've seen them die when I used this mod.

>> No.1944808

>>1944806
Are Centaurs still pain in the sass?

>> No.1944810
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>>1944806
One of the bugged out weapons in the game when using this mod. I THINK you can use all the weapons in theory, but not all at once and you lose them if you switch them out.

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1944812

>>1944796
>>1944803
>>1944806
>>1944810

Maybe I should consider a heretic/hexen compatibility patch in the future

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1944814

>>1944808
They can still block attacks if that's what you mean. But when you catch them when their shield is down they die much quicker.

Also, when you play hexen with this mod it obviously doesn't replace any of the default weapons or items. So you can't change your alternate attacks when using the sword or power gauntlet.

>> No.1944815

>>1944812
Please do so. This mod would fit very well with either or better both of them.

>> No.1944825

third person doom mod?

>> No.1944835

>>1944815
Also you will most likely have to replace all the standard hexen weapons, armor and items with GMOTA stuff. When I tried to pick up an armor piece with this mod running it just didn't happen.

>> No.1944848

>>1944608
Well, the other anon got Revolver covered, so maybe... replace the shotgun with a bolt-rifle? All the pellet's damage are concentrated into a single bullet, because it's bolt-action you reload it between shots like a shotgun. It could pierce enemies depending if it doesn't overshadows another weapon's functions.

>> No.1944849

>>1944825

Chasecam.exe

>> No.1944853

>>1944848

Sorry anon, Eric snatched up the shotgun, it's gonna behave like his shotgun from Gunmod (It ain't gonna pump itself) but I've got him adding a melee attack instead of just dry firing it.

If you want you can help me think of an alt fire for the ripper slugs hooting machinegun that's gonna be replacing the plasma rifle

>> No.1944861

>>1944853
Sure, tell me more about the ripper slugs and the machiengun itself, how do they work?

>> No.1944864

This is interesting, this actually works rather well in the sense that I can actually play through the level. All the problems with hexen weapons, armor, spells, items and whatever else probably apply though.

>> No.1944867

>>1944861

I haven't got anything made yet. Just getting everything down on paper first before I start getting into creating all of these guns, I picture this machinegun firing out ripper slugs that fade out after traveling a set distance and firing in a pretty wide spray pattern

Probably gonna use those nice machinegun sprites from Strife too

>> No.1944868
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1944868

>>1944864
Ugh forgot my image again.

>> No.1944879

>>1944867
Say, this might sound totally bonkers, but what about an underslung plasma-flamethrower?

>> No.1944885

>>1944879

Hm. maybe, so it'd be a close range rapid DPS sorta thing?

>> No.1944898

>>1944885
I would make it a "slow" close range DPS fire-mode that needs to be reloaded/pumped after each shot. You fire it, it goes on for a few seconds, maybe four max, then need to reload/pump it before firing the flamethrower again. That way machinegun won't become too versatile and overshadow another gun.

Also blue-flames because nothing says "This is plasma" more then the colour blue.

>> No.1944902

>>1944898

I'll keep that one in mind anon, we'll see how that works when I start working on this shit.

>> No.1944914
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1944914

>>1944902
Thanks bro, and good luck with the project.

>> No.1944918

>>1944914

I think this'll be fun to make, and it gives me a nice and short breather from my other project. I look forward to getting this shit put together and seeing the fruits of our combined creative thought, because the current line up of guns is looking to be pretty fucking neat

>> No.1944921

>>1944918
I'm curious, what other guns you have so far?

>> No.1944923 [DELETED] 

>>1944795
for you

>> No.1944925

>>1944921

http://pastebin.com/YAmG4X5Y

Here you go

>> No.1944953
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1944953

So why weren't there more issues? An ongoing Doom comic would've been awesome.

>> No.1944985
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1944985

good lord

>> No.1944996

>>1944953
Because the first one covered about 90% of the gameplay, gave Doomguy all the weapons, and still only managed a bit of ultra90's violence and a bit of global warming humor.

They didn't write it to have sequels. They wrote it to have it out there.

>> No.1945006
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>>1943798
LATE, BUT NOT ANY LESS PISSED!
FUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUCCCCKKK

>> No.1945009
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1945009

aergh, these maps.

>> No.1945026

>>1944996
I see. Still, I wish there was an ongoing Doom comic. The only one that lasted a very long amount of time (and is still going) is Archie's Sonic comic. Doom deserved a recurring comic too, maybe not as long-lasting, but still. Maybe someone will finally step up when Doom 4 comes out?

>> No.1945030
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>> No.1945045
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>2014
>having a Skins folder

>> No.1945050
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>> No.1945051
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>>1945045

>> No.1945053

>>1945051
What is this? A picture for fractal cacodemons?

>> No.1945057

>>1945053
I couldnt find the big version..

>> No.1945058

>>1945051

is something wrong, anon?

>> No.1945072

>>1945058
Yes.. No.. I dont know..

You could, but choose not to have, a folder thats crammed full of skins that you dont even have to wear, you can just use it to see other players who are using them..

And yet here I am with a skins folder that breaks Zandronum whenever theres more than one wad in it.

You've surfaced some feels for me, thats all

>> No.1945083

>>1945045
>not taking the music from your favorite wads and autoloading all of them so you can listen to whatever you want

>> No.1945123

>>1945045
I don't see why no?

>> No.1945174

>>1943547
>>1943543
IT'S GOING LIVE IN 4 HOURS
HYPE
http://store.steampowered.com/app/282440/

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>> No.1945184

>>1942201
Posses me make the player a ghost who can only punch, but can posses monster corpses

>> No.1945192

>>1945174

This is probably the opposite of hype.

>> No.1945223

>>1945192
>This is probably the opposite of hype.

I thought that was the btsx2 release process.

>> No.1945246

>>1945192
Nah nigga. I'll be the first to get it, it's fun.

>> No.1945324

>>1944608
Chaingun with molotov cocktail launcher.

>> No.1945328

>>1945324
Why not make it a chaingun WITH a molotov cocktail launcher?

>> No.1945356

>>1945328
or a fully automatic molotov cocktail launcher HRRRK I'm so sorry this doesn't usually happen

>> No.1945405

>>1945356
That's what's missing from Russian Overkill

>> No.1945410 [DELETED] 

>>1944001

retard, you know full well what we mean when we acccuse modern levels of being too linear... what do you think you are adding with your pedantry? GET OFF, SCUM #rekt #GetOffScum #Scum

>> No.1945418 [DELETED] 

>>1943678
>>i don't like Valve sticking his dick in (and getting a cut off) other games,
>that's just how stores work anon!

well it's an unnecessary store, if you can only buy games from one store then it's a monopoly. Fuck Valve, fuck Gabe

>> No.1945436 [DELETED] 

>>1945410
Quit bringing this shit up.

>> No.1945453

>>1945418
Desura
Good old Games
>Origin
don't try and pretend like there's no competition

>> No.1945457

Argh, I'm trying to make a map and it's really not clicking. I'm way too used to more modern systems, so I thought this would be basic. Boy was I wrong.

>> No.1945470

>>1945174
>2101 [qnet] -N- (Broadcast) Quake Live has just been released on Steam! To celebrate this occasion and chat with the community and developers come and join us yadda yadda yadda

thanks quakenet

>> No.1945480

>>1943486
>>1943492
>>1943501
None of these posts contradict the statement that some games have no end goal.

None of these posts prove that all games are linear, even 'ultimately'.

>> No.1945486

>>1945480

None of these posts prove you're not a skeleton.

>> No.1945501

Keen Dreams source code got release some days ago.
https://github.com/keendreams/keen/tree/master

>> No.1945516 [SPOILER] 
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1945516

dumb doodling

>> No.1945520

>>1945516
>punk imp girl
yes, this is good, very good

>> No.1945525

>>1945516

post the other one

>> No.1945529 [SPOILER] 
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>> No.1945538

>>1945516

Pain elemental girl all day everyday

>> No.1945551

>>1945516

Hey you are very talented. Just stating obvious.

>> No.1945554

>>1943841
We kiiiinda invaded his realm and kicked the shit out of all his minions
That wouldn't make me too happy if it happened to me

>> No.1945574

>>1945516
>>1945529
Do you have an art page or more of this stuff? I'd love to share it, but I need a name.

>> No.1945607
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1945607

>>1945529

>> No.1945625

>>1945607
WHAT IS IT, DOOMGUY? COULD IT BE YOU'RE CRAVING MY MEGASPHERES?

>> No.1945648

>>1945516
.. RobotJoe?

>> No.1945650
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1945650

lolhotsauce

>> No.1945674
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>>1945607
>>1945529

>> No.1945676

>>1945648
YEP

>> No.1945692

>>1945529

Do she got the booty?

>> No.1945703

>>1945692
She doooooo

>> No.1945707

Am i doing something wrong? am i retarded?
I downloaded Zandronum today for the first time and i can't seem to actually join any games. I get in and it says i'm 1st in line in the queue despite the server not being full and there being LOADS of space even for me to join

What am i doing wrong? in ZDaemon i can join anything whenever

>> No.1945712
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1945712

>>1944868
I'm back, with a pic of...something.

>> No.1945714

>>1945707

That means you're playing Survival/Last Man Standing with limited lives.
Either wait for the map to finish before joining or join a server that's Cooperative/Deathmatch.

>> No.1945715

>>1945707
You're joining Survival games, that's why. You can only join once either the whole team dies or the server goes to a new map.

>> No.1945716

>>1945516
>>1945529
Your artstyle is beautiful, i especially love the female imp (that ass tho)
Do you have a tumblr or anything?

>> No.1945720

>>1945707
Unless the game mode is coop or DM, you can't join until the round ends (someone exits the map or everyone dies or some other goal achieved). ZDaemon has join timelimit so you have some time to join the game after the round has started.

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>>1945712
This is an interesting bug he's just chilling there as his body falls apart.

>> No.1945724

>>1945720
>Unless the game mode is coop or DM

Or CTF or Duel.

>> No.1945727

>>1945607
The ass was fat.

>> No.1945729
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>>1945721
So are these gents.

GMOTA apparently replaces those weird skeleton warrior dudes with armored archers. Most likely because said skellies use the same data/information as the zombiemen in standard doom.

GMOTA guy, this is one of those bugs you may want to look at. :V

>> No.1945730

>>1945716
just robotjoe on tumblr. There is some weird furry stuff on there so UH WARNING

>> No.1945731

>>1945730
Not a problem with me, thanks guy

>> No.1945735

>>1945729
Those are sprite conflicts. The archer sprites have the same filenames as the undead warrior sprites, so they get replaced, but the archer sprites have more frames than the undead warrior, so that happens.

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>>1945729
Proof that the weapons in this game work with this mod, sorta. Problem is that again when you switch them out you can't switch back. That's fine on it's own, GMOTA has enough of an arsenal on it's own that it doesn't matter. Problem is that none of the GMOTA specific power-ups and health items spawn in either heretic or hexen.

I have more heretic screens, if anyone is interested?

>> No.1945738

>>1945650
Why is the Caribbean expansion better than the base game?

>> No.1945741
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>>1945735
Ah that's interesting, thanks for the information. Oh and this guy was...trouble.

>> No.1945742

>>1945729
>GMOTA guy, this is one of those bugs you may want to look at. :V
>loading a mod designed for a different iwad with an iwad it doesn't support

nah i think this is pretty firmly user error

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>>1945741
And so was this room

>> No.1945747
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1945747

>>1945742
Normally I'd agree but the mod author >>1944812

Might be willing to make compatibility patch at some point, so consider this some preemptive bug testing.

Finally, fuck this room in its fucking eardrums

>> No.1945748

>>1945746
>>1945741
>>1945737
>>1945729
>>1945721
>>1945712
Have you tried to throw flechettes in Hexen already?

>> No.1945750

>>1945742
Except that GMOTA Guy said he wants to make a compatibility patch for Hexen, and possibly Heretic.

>> No.1945757

>>1945747
>>1945750

oh
well my bad, then

>> No.1945760
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>>1945748
Yeah, you can throw them and you can even switch to them in your inventory, but your inventory isn't visible with this mod running, which makes choosing and using items more difficult then it needs to be.

>> No.1945770

>>1945760
So, this means he has actually fixed the faulty sprite replacement.

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>>1945770
Hmm?

Oh another thing here as well, you can actually collect armor pieces in heretic actually, but I don't think this shield I picked up was meant to max out your armor.

>> No.1945785
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1945785

texture filters: Yes or no?
http://strawpoll.me/2590630

>> No.1945787
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>>1945773
Webm related.

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>>1945773
And here is where my adventures with GMOTA in heretic came to an end for this session. I dunno if its the mod, the game itself, or just my own stupidity, but for the life of me I just couldn't find a way out of this room.

>> No.1945795
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1945795

>>1945787

>> No.1945801

>>1945787
Heh, interesting bug. If and when GMOTA guy gets around to heretic/hexen patches for his mod he's probably going to have to go through the game with a fine toothed comb for other bugs like this.

>> No.1945813

>>1945785
I'm one of the two people in favor of them apparently, mostly because I THINK GZdoom has it's own built in texture filter that makes the sprites look nicer then normal, at least to me anyway.

>> No.1945834

>>1945785

After years of playing vanilla DOOM, anything other than strictly default graphics or whatever may be added by a WAD just doesn't "look right" to me.

>> No.1945843

>>1945750

I honestly don't want to but I feel like I should eventually because keep asking for it and it's starting to make me feel bad

It won't be for awhile though

>> No.1945846

>>1945785
I don't know why anyone thinks filters look good. It's like someone smeared a layer of Vaseline on the screen.

>> No.1945847

>>1945785

Hell no.

>> No.1945849

>>1945843
Ah well. I'll eagerly await the chance to remove Centaur with Blazkowicz's blade.

>> No.1945853

Can someone recommend me a good wad that takes place in a mall? I want something new.

>> No.1945857

>>1945853

I think there's one in >GvH

>> No.1945860

>>1945853
http://static.best-ever.org/wads/maltshop_final.wad

>> No.1945869

>>1945860
>http://static.best-ever.org/wads/maltshop_final.wad

thanks terry

>> No.1945875

>>1945843
I understand that it's a lot of work, but we do appreciate your efforts on our behalf. One thing you will need to keep in mind for heretic/hexen is that the standard balance for those games relies on you having inventory items to use, and the blue vials are the possibly only doom style health pickup that exist in the game natively. So you will either need to find a way to implement the standard non-invisible heretic/hexen inventory in your mod patch, or you will need to re-balance the items a bit so that the player can restore their health more easily from map pickups alone.

>> No.1945889

Which is better for/typically has more "classic" or "vanilla" style games running (no vertical freelook, no jumping/crouching, stock weapons, etc.), Zandronum or ZDaemon?

>> No.1945893

>>1945889

If you want more classic/vanilla playstyle, you'll want ZDaemon. Zandronum has a lot of options to emulate vanilla play, but ZDaemon will always be much more accurate and efficient about it.

That's generally the big split between the two--Zandronum is more modern and supports more mods, ZDaemon is more vanilla and supports classic play better.

>> No.1945903

>>1945889
If you wanna go full "classic" use chocolate doom

>> No.1945912

>>1945516
>>1945529
Not a big fan of how the Cyberdemon looks in this picture, feels like she should be beefier but ignoring muscle mass she is pretty nice.
I like her hair and all that.

However the Imp and Pain Elemental girls are really cute.

>> No.1945918

>>1945889

You can freely force vanilla compatibility in Zandronum

The one thing that differs from both of those sourceports is that you have more chances to find vanilla-oriented servers in ZDaemon

Both sourceports derive from ZDoom in one way on another, and therefore they can't really be 100% vanilla

>> No.1945923

>>1945857

He said a GOOD wad

>> No.1945926

>>1945923

He asked, I replied with what I know so far about the subject. Also someone else linked him to a terrywad, so there's that.

>> No.1945935
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1945935

>Find out about Quake Live
>Make account
>Been waiting fucking years for a new game with oldschool principals
>QUAKELIVESTARTUP.EXE
Seems pretty damn cool
>JOINSERVER.BAT
>Join the server
>First thing I see is someone in the chat saying: "WOW! THAT WAS AN EPIC KILL! LOL XD!"
>Oh fuck no
>Players names go something like this: "xXETRNALDOOMXx, KoOlKiD132, etc"
>People crying about getting killed
>Someone says: "Oh whaite, ur on my team! LOL" and "R we suposed to get the flag?"

Fuck man, never before have I reached for the Uninstall button any faster.
Is there literally no way to play a good game with mature people any more?

May I also mention that this game lets you make loadouts, and all you have to do to Bunny Hop is hold down the spacebar.

>> No.1945948

>>1945935
Holding down jump to bunnyhop is immensely slower than doing it manually.

Loadouts are retarded.

When I play competitive games with stupid players, I just rack up them points.

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>>1945948
That's exactly what I was doing.
Half of them just sat there, stared at me, I would shoot them a few times, and they'd scream at me for killing them.
One even insisted that I teamkilled him, when he was to retarded to realize that we were on opposite teams.

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>>1945953

Glad to hear nothing's changed since I last tried it. Back to playing Q3 engine games with bots and crying when I win.

>> No.1945970

>>1945953
>>1945958
Open Arena Nigga

>> No.1945980

>>1945834
I like OpenGL mode and 800x640 res, with dynamic lighting, but the blur filter just doesn't look very good to me.

>> No.1945983
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>>1945970
>Open Arena
>look at description of the Open Arena package in muh repositories
>"A violent, sexy multiplayer first person shooter"
>mfw
Why sexy? I mean, sexy is nice, but if I wanted to play a porn game I'd go to fucking Newgrounds.

>> No.1945986

>>1945953
>>1945935
I think what you should do is look for a server with regulars, maybe even try and organize something with /v/ or /vr/, see if anyone wants to relive those old glory days of QDM.

I'm afraid that joining a game with complete strangers every time will give you less than challenging results.

>> No.1945990

>>1945935
Well it did just get released on Steam today so I'm assuming there'll be an influx of new stupid players as well as the stupid players that are generally in the lower ranks. When you get higher up you'll find generally better players, though I won't blame you if you don't wanna play it anymore.

>> No.1946004

>>1945983
It's not like that. At least not when I played it.
I think it's just like anime-inspired characters and other things.

Ok things have changed a bit.
There's a big-titted anthro cat you can play as, as well as a reskin to make it an angel. The real kicker is that they're barely wearing pasties and have pre-baked breast physics.

I liked the level of lewd in Q3, but I don't like this.

>> No.1946010

>>1945970
would you say thats better than any of the cube games?

>> No.1946014

>>1946010
nah both are pretty good

>> No.1946021

>>1946014
does open arena have more players?

>> No.1946023

>>1945935
>Is there literally no way to play a good game with mature people any more?

No. There never was.
Among every group of people, no matter where you are, there will be one or two retards that completely fuck everything over.

EVERY group of people.

>> No.1946029

>>1946021
this pretty populated you can easily get on a good match

>> No.1946048

>>1946023
fucking this
>played quake live every now and again
>always some faggot on
>sounds like the amount of faggots has increased ten fold
Yeap only more reason to not touch it as much now

>> No.1946057

Just finished Doom 2, working on the original.

Two questions for people who haven't just started playing Doom for the first time since their pre-teens:

Is the first or the second better? I got in a fugue state playing the first episode of the original, and that never happened in Doom 2.

Also, is using mouselook on Icon of Sin cheating? I know we probably didn't have a mouse when it originally came out (not sure) but I have a hard time thinking of it as cheating.

>> No.1946063

>>1946057

The first has better levels, but the second has better monsters and the fucking Super Shotgun.
Using freelook (looking up and down) on the Icon of Sin is technically cheating, since it's not vanilla behavior and makes the fight unbelievably easy. Using mouselook (using the mouse to look left and right) is vanilla behavior and perfectly fine.

>> No.1946065

>>1946057
Doom 1 is better by a long shot.
Using mouselook isn't cheating; don't let anyone tell you that.

>> No.1946068

>>1946057

The general view is that Doom 2 has better monsters and Ultimate Doom has better maps

Also you're *kind of* cheating if you're aiming UP to shoot at the Icon of Sin, because you're rendering the intended mechanic as useless

>> No.1946073
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1946073

Ghastly Dragon, do you post here?

>> No.1946074

>>1946057
Doom 1 is arguably better. The super shotty is overpowered in Doom 2, honestly, and the atmosphere/architecture in Doom 1 is amazing.
Some people believe that the monsters are better in Doom 2, and that the Super Shotty is a *good* thing--but most of them also admit that the Super Shotty is only really good for deathmatch.

As for using mouselook on the Icon of Sin, that's a tough one. If you don't look up and down, you have to travel to the top, hit a switch, jump down to a platform in the lava pit, and then pour rockets into that thing's head like there's no tomorrow.

Then again, I'm pretty sure you can press pageup and pagedown to look up and down in Vanilla Doom.

>> No.1946075

>>1946057
Doom 1 has better level design and theme.

Vanilla Doom supported the mouse for turning horizontally. Vertical freelook was not possible. The Icon of Sin fight was not designed with that in mind, which is pretty obviously since the ability to freelook makes the fight trivial.

>> No.1946081

What ever happened to that WAD launcher which kept the /idgames files in a database?

>> No.1946084

>>1946074
>Then again, I'm pretty sure you can press pageup and pagedown to look up and down in Vanilla Doom.

No, you can't.

>> No.1946086

>>1946084
Damn. My memories of Realms of the Haunting must be leaking into my memories of Doom.

>> No.1946089

>>1946081

you poor thing, posting on three threads without luck.

Despite some people refusing to accept it, the author literally shot himself in the foot by rejecting XP support. Go look at the dev thread, he killed any hype he had in the forum, no-one kept posting about the program and reporting bugs. I'm not saying he dropped the ball, but...

And let's not forget that the one person shamelessly pushing for its creation in most Doom forums is currently busy dealing with forum maintenance which doesn't seem to be finished anytime soon

tl;dr - it bombed as hard as the murrikans did on Hiroshima

>>1946074
>I'm pretty sure you can press pageup and pagedown to look up and down in Vanilla Doom.

I don't think so. You've probably played Doom on a sourceport that added such feature

>> No.1946091

>>1946073
He doesn't.

>> No.1946092

>>1946089
I posted it in the last thread only but thanks.

>> No.1946143

>>1946089
>author literally shot himself in the foot by rejecting XP support
OH FOR FUCKS SAKE THE DAMN THING IS DEAD.

>> No.1946156

>>1946143

hey, that's what some people think about Doom (and any other retro game with an active fanbase for that matter)

>> No.1946159
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1946159

Just what is this thing supposed to be?

>> No.1946161

>>1946159

Looks like a shotgun to me, dude.

>> No.1946163

>>1946159
It's the pre-skelly form of agitation.

>> No.1946164

>>1946091
Dayum, oh well.

>> No.1946165

>>1946159
Thats a red torch

>> No.1946181

>>1946057
Doom 1 has way better levels, but Doom 2 has a lot of new resources like cool new monsters, textures, music, a kickass sawed off shotgun, stuff like that, which means levelsets for Doom 2 will have a larger range of content.

As for mouselook, the original game was compatible with horizontal mouselook, and it was how Romero rolled, vertical mouselook was not available, and thus, you could argue that it's cheating when using it against Icon Of Sin, but I personally feel that free, vertical and horizontal mouselook is just such a natural thing for first person games that I can't really go without it. I just refrain from really using vertical mouselook when fighting the Icon Of Sin.

>> No.1946204

>>1942425
make the shield block vegetables, but vulnerable to the sword

>> No.1946207 [DELETED] 

So I decided to check out demonsteele and see what it's like.
I really liked playing through it, but after a while revenants keep coming through the wall and killing me.

Is this a bug?

>> No.1946214 [DELETED] 

>>1946207
Stop playing it with Brutal Doom.
Gameplay mods don't work together.

>> No.1946217

>>1946204

Vegetables?

>> No.1946221 [DELETED] 

>>1946214
I'm not, i am loading demonsteele by itself
Brutal doom is in my skins folder

>> No.1946226

>>1946221
>Brutal Doom is in my skins folder
That means Brutal Doom is automatically loading with any level you run GZDoom with.
Move it out of your skins folder and try again.

>> No.1946227

>>1946204
>>1946217
I meant subweapons, I am very tired.

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>>1946226
stop responding to the obvious troll

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hhhehehehe

>> No.1946232 [DELETED] 

>>1946230

I like how you immediately knew he is a troll
as if you were thinking how he thinks by mentioning something that just got referenced in this thread not too long ago could cause some abrupt among us

>> No.1946237 [DELETED] 

>>1946226
Oh, the revenants are gone now, thanks!

>> No.1946238 [DELETED] 

>>1946232
speak english plz

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>>1946204
>>1946217
>>1946227
>vegetables

I can't stop fucking laughing.

>> No.1946252 [DELETED] 

>MAP04 - “Dirty Water” by Use3D and Tarnsman
>Tarnsman

NOW it makes sense on why people suddenly jumped and screamed wolf when MAP04 was shat on for being "too spacey"

>> No.1946271

still trying to find some wads with surreal settings.
for example, void.
someone please help me out

>> No.1946278

>>1946271
Lost Episode
Beyond Reality

>> No.1946290

>>1946271

Oniria.

>> No.1946309
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>>1942786
>>1943324
Has anybody played that "Duke Hard" mod?

Where you're in the huge tower?

How was it?

>> No.1946316 [SPOILER] 
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So a friend requested a custom palette

>> No.1946319

>>1946316
That status bar face fits very well.

>> No.1946337
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>>1946316

Shit looks fab as hell.

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>>1946316
Apparently we weren't purple enough. Decide for yourself with these!

http://www.best-ever.org/download?file=purple-v2.0.pk3
http://www.best-ever.org/download?file=purple.pk3

>> No.1946370

>>1946368
Is this vaporwave or seapunk or whatever the y call it?

>> No.1946373
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>>1946370
>seapunk

Tell me this is a thing.

>> No.1946375

>>1946373
Ahahaha, holy shit it is.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Seapunk

>> No.1946390

>>1946368
>>1946370
>>1946373
>>1946375

I love you, /vr/. Never change.

>> No.1946391

>>1946057
'86fag here

I've always preferred the second and I always will.

>More enemies with more varied attacks
>Larger and more interesting levels that escape from the constant corridor-y feel of the original game. Much more variety leading to more combat situations. I'll agree Doom's maps are more 'solid' in general but I'd argue Doom II's best maps put all the maps of the original to shame.
>SSG (I don't care about so-called 'balance', this gun is a joy to use and its existence is validated by the stronger enemies and how many more you face at once than in the original)
>All these factors result in improved gameplay
>More challenging but both games are absolute piss, with Doom 1 being even pissier than Doom 2
>Better music

I'll always prefer II. I can't believe people prefer the first. It's mind boggling to me.

>> No.1946397
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>>1946390
And I love you, anon.

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>>1946390
And I love you, anon.

Seriously though, the themes people come up with....

>> No.1946404

I don't know what the hell I did, but somehow while playing DoomRPG + DooMRL Arsenal/Monsters I somehow managed so projectiles and hitscan go through me like I'm not even there, only able to take damage from melee and area effect, as well as being less noticeable to monsters. I suspect the use of the ghosting and invisibility shield accessories, despite not using either at the moment.

Of course, I'm already taking advantage of this by obtaining the Torgue Blastplate and Boots, buying berserk at the start of every level and meleeing everything not a cyberdemon.

>> No.1946408

>>1946404
EXPLOOOOSIONS!

>> No.1946464

>>1946404
Can someone explain to me what DoomRPG and DoomRL arsenal is? i hear it mentioned a lot but I don't get what it does

>> No.1946471

>>1946464
DoomRPG adds a fuckton of new features into the game, stuff like leveling up, shops, and all other kinds of craziness.
The DoomRL Arsenal and monsters adds the weapons and monsters from the Doom Roguelike.
These two combined are a pretty cool mod.

>> No.1946495

>>1946471
Wow okay how the fuck do I get the rpg working

why cant he just have it in a pk7 or something

>> No.1946498

>>1946404
And after "accidentally" letting my shield get depleted I found it was actually my shield what gave me such game breaking powers (well, more gamebreaking DoomRPG is by itself)

At least I can still explode the shit out of everything through either kicks or my grenade launcher. Damn, I love doing rebound shots with it.

>> No.1946504

>>1946495
Use the launcher. Also it works on the latest release of zdoom as well.

>> No.1946517
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>>1946504
What launcher

There's a file I can't open and an icon

>> No.1946534

>>1946495
>>1946517

Welcome to the least-properly-documented mod in existence.

>> No.1946541

>>1946517
The one linked in the DoomRPG thread, right there in the OP
http://forum.zdoom.org/viewtopic.php?f=19&t=33292

>> No.1946542
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anyone who has anarchy arcade on steam, can join the Ultimate Doom Arcade server right now,
it may take a little while to load, but thats only the first time
there are only like 5 servers at any given time, so it should be right up there

and if you dont have anarchy arcade, you should seriously consider getting it, its free anyway

>> No.1946547

>>1945853
http://www.doomworld.com/idgames/?id=15483

>> No.1946548
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>>1946542
I'm on Linux

>> No.1946553

>>1946542
installing, will be in soon

>> No.1946558

>>1946542
shouldn't demonsteele be a beatemup?

>> No.1946559

>>1946542
What the heck is this? I see anarchy and sharing stuff and immediately red lights start flashing in my brain.

>> No.1946564

>>1946559
It's a source engine mod that acts as a sort of virtual desktop. You can launch games and movies and stuff through it

>> No.1946585

>>1946542

Damn.
That looks cool as hell.

>> No.1946593

>>1946391
out of curiosity, which do you think are doom2's best levels?

>> No.1946601

So is there a release date yet for Brutal Doom v20?

>> No.1946674

>2014
>there are still people who try to give their mod a story

Literally why

>> No.1946680

Played Doom and 2 when I was a kid but never tried any mods. I have no idea how this works.

I downloaded the original wads, zdoom (and some other engines) and the Doom RL Arsenal wads. If I want to play said mod, what should I do? Place everything into a single folder and execute the engine exe?

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>>1946680

Please refer to the "loading mods" section here.

>> No.1946682

>>1946681
Thanks and sorry.

>> No.1946684

>>1946682

No worries. Welcome to the crew, hope you enjoy your stay.

>> No.1946767
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1946767

Does anyone know of some center-viewed revolver sprites that have a reload animation to them? The only ones I know of are from Accessories to Murder, and while those sprites are fucking great. I feel they're tied with that mod.

>> No.1946782

>>1946767
I think DoomRL Arsenal might have one. That or you can grab the ones from Immoral Conduct

>> No.1946791

>>1946782

Is there somewhere I can download immoral conduct that isn't some retarded bullshit website? I got directed to some atomic gamer bullshit

>> No.1946793 [DELETED] 

I think some of my comments were deleted, this place sure has the most aspergery moderation

>> No.1946820

My apologies for begging, but can somebody here provide me with a download link to the DOOM 1 and 2 IWADS? I'm not on my home PC.

>> No.1946823

>>1946820
Check out the FAQ

>> No.1946835

How do I stop sucking at Shadow Warrior? Even the most common low tier enemies have rapid fire hitscan attacks which makes it nearly impossible to not get hit unless you're constantly crouching behind cover. I'm too used to Doom's gameplay where you can just dodge everything.

>> No.1946837

>>1946835

You cheat.

>> No.1946839

>>1946791
Isnt it on /idgames?

>> No.1946840

not sure which of these is the real one

http://www.doomworld.com/idgames/?id=11624
Immoral Conduct Boom Version. V2

http://www.doomworld.com/idgames/?id=13125
Immoral Conduct SE

http://www.doomworld.com/idgames/?id=13740
Immoral Conduct - ZDoom Edition

http://www.doomworld.com/idgames/?id=16081
RSL's Immoral Conduct Z-Patch

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1946841

just noticed one of my posts got quoted on this thing. cool!

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1946852

>>1946837
srsly though

>> No.1946853
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1946853

what were they thinking?

>> No.1946856

>>1946852

No. Really. You cheat or lower the difficulty.

Hitscanners are everywhere and they're not fun.

Also I didn't think Shadow Warrior was very good and has dumb design choices

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>>1945953
Fucking christ, look at this advertisement.

>> No.1946873

>>1946857
Is... this real life?

>> No.1946879
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>>1946857

That's not real.

That can't be real.

No. Fuck off that's not real, they're not actually putting that shit in this

>> No.1946884

>>1946857
>why be hampered by an even playing field?
er

>> No.1946886

>>1946835
spam explosives or run in with the uzis

>> No.1946916

>>1946857
EPIC

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>>1946857
>4 BFGs doing the work for you
>4 BFGs
>for you
Fuck this gay earth.

>> No.1946920

>>1946879
>>1946884
>>1946919

It's a joke.

A shitty, shitty joke.

>> No.1946950

>>1946857
Guys, this is an old joke, I saw this back in 2010 or something on April Fools.

>> No.1946982

>>1945738
Because it was made by Sunstorm Interactive who were the Gods of the Build engine (especially Robert Travis the lead level designer). It was their 2nd DN3D add-on and they also made add-ons for Redneck Rampage (better than the original game too), Blood and Shadow Warrior; so they had a lot of experience with Build.

>> No.1947027

http://store.steampowered.com/sub/18620/

Is this worth it?
I already have Duke Nukem 3D Atomic Edition from GoG for free, does Megaton offer anything worthwhile beyond that?

>> No.1947031

>>1947027
Achivements and dead online.

>> No.1947046

>>1947027
Megaton has working multiplayer. Working, but laggy.

Except from that, if you ask me, you're MUCH better off playing the games in DOSbox or EDuke32 than in Megaton. Megaton is VERY glitchy, its 'widescreen' supports is actually not true widescreen and instead zooms in, etc etc
Shadow Warrior will have its own "EDuke" version soon as well.

>> No.1947051

>>1947046
I see.
What about GoG's One Unit Whole Blood? Is it like Blood with its own eDuke?
What about Redneck Rampage?

>> No.1947056

>>1947051
It's wrapped through Dosbox.

>> No.1947059

>>1947051
They come with a preconfigured Dosbox.

>> No.1947061

>>1947051
No it's Dosbox

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>>1947051
Blood and Redneck Rampage have no sourceport and probably never ever will.

But they play really great in DOSbox. Though Blood is a little demanding and you need a good processor to run it at a good resolution (with my old 2,5ghz I could only run Blood at 320*200 to have 60FPS, but with my new 3,4ghz I can go up to 800*600).

Blood is a great game once you understand how to play it. Redneck Rampage is hit and miss, but the add-on 'Suckin Grits on Route 66' is better than the original and tries as best as it can to hide its flaws; and the sequel 'Rides Again In Arksansas' is very underrated and fixes most of the flaws of the original while bringing more to the table (pic related).

If you're not familiar with dosbox there are a few things you should know about configuring Blood once you buy the GoG version so don't be afraid to ask.

>> No.1947089

>>1946542

cool

>> No.1947104

>>1946674
I'm working on a vanilla level set. There's intermission screens in the game though! What am I supposed to do with those? There needs to be SOMETHING there. So fuck it. I'm writing some shit.

BTSX has a story but I'll be fucked if I know what it is

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>>1945935
I live near hueland and play in their server and I have never seen shit like that.
>loadouts
FFA and TDM only I think. Not THAT much of a deal
>and all you have to do to bunny hop is hold down the spacebar
Yeah, but it's worse than strafejumping in every way.

>implying you didn't know this and weren't just turning off people from the game

>> No.1947116

>>1946204
>>1946227
>vegetables
how do you fuck up that bad

>> No.1947121

>>1947116
Reminds me of that thread on /v/ where the guy was telling a story about a game and said "deploy refrigerators" instead of "deploy parachutes".

Sleep deprivation is a hell of a drug.

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>>1946674

It's not necessary to give it a story, however, it wouldn't hurt if you gave a little bit of a hint of what you're supposed to kill and who you are, unless you want to be labeled as yet another Realm667 mishmash when the monster cast is literally that

>>1946841

I wouldn't be that much happy. Those kind of accounts on twitter tend to quote some really stupid shit around said communities and doom_txt isn't the exception. Makes me wonder how you skipped the rest of the posts that were quoted from our threads.

>>1946920
>>1946950

You know what else was supposed to be a joke? 4chan gold accounts

>>1947121

you tell me

>>1946853

No worries, anon! Someone in the community got your back!
(pic related)
http://forum.zdoom.org/viewtopic.php?f=12&t=14126&p=764021#p764021

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>>1947062
>Redneck Rampage has no sourceport
What the fuck are you talking about?
Kill yourself you nigger

>> No.1947154

>>1945834
Most wads do their sprites differently than id did (sculptures vs hand painted) so I get you there. But new textures look pretty normal if they're done well imo.

>> No.1947162

>>1947104
just ignore them. or change them to something short like "thanks for playing my wad". but really, just ignore them.

>> No.1947175 [DELETED] 

>>1947062
Here, you twat:
http://www.jonhunt.com/redneck/erampage.html

>> No.1947180

>>1947062
http://www.jonhunt.com/redneck/erampage.html

>> No.1947186

>>1947062
ZBlood is great, try it

>> No.1947192

>>1946853
a fine example of a map that is much better once learned.

>> No.1947195

>>1946542
Is this still up? How do I get to it?

>> No.1947197

>>1947108
how did he know where the other guy was going to spawn and where to fire the rockets? are spawns not randomized?

>> No.1947209

>>1947197
>not recognizing cheat engine

>> No.1947214

So, any first impressions for DoomZ?

>start game
>the inventory doesnt show up
>wandering on the map like 30 mins
>get killed by a zombie with 2 hits

>> No.1947218

>>1947214
It's actually great, you just fucked up.
Bind the custom keys and git gud

>> No.1947219

>>1945935

How the fuck do you discover quake live with steam...

>> No.1947230

>>1947218
Yeah I know, It's pretty neat for being al alpha though!

For those who don't know what DoomZ is.. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6OwpMANdDfo

>> No.1947256

>>1947141
>http://forum.zdoom.org/viewtopic.php?f=12&t=14126&p=764021#p764021
>NiGHTMARE
huh, i thought he was dead.

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requesting dome ZDL infographics to put in my doom arcade

this machine launches ZDL

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>>1947261
>Ultimate Doom
>actually Brutal Doom

>> No.1947280

>>1947270
you should see the brutal doom cabinet
and its not either, its ZDL, but theres no flashy banners available with the ZDL logo on them

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>>1947270
>upside down fangs

>> No.1947289 [DELETED] 

Do not respond to the ZDL and Brutal Doom post
Or you will get b&

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>>1947280
>>1947261

>> No.1947306

>>1947304
>flashy

>> No.1947308

>>1947180
That is not a sourceport. The source of Redneck Rampage was never released.

ERampage is a recreation of Redneck Rampage in EDuke32, meaning that, all the maps, art and sound are accurate; but any programming (coding) was redone from scratch and therefore are NOT accurate at all.

It's just like BloodCM. If you're playing that, you're not playing the original game, you're playing a russian bootleg.

>>1947186
You must be joking. Even BloodCM is terrible and that's using Build with all the freedom of EDuke32. Why would anyone even consider ZBlood is beyond me. I mean, it's an interesting Doom mod, a cool experiment I guess, but if you think it can 'replace' the original game you might as well think that a Polystation can replace a Playstation.

>> No.1947312

>>1947270
>actually a map from TNT

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>>1947306

>> No.1947394

>>1947308
so it's like the difference between chocolate doom and zdoom?

>> No.1947405

>>1947394
Chocolate Doom strives for complete accuracy, including all the bugs and glitches, while still being usable under modern systems. ZDoom is instead the infinitely more advanced source port meant for modding, scripting, etc.

>> No.1947408

>>1947394
No. ZDoom is still ultimately based off the Doom source code. It's more like the difference between Super Mario World and a SMW clone written in flash. Things like the jumping physics almost always feel off because without access to the actual Mario physics code, the best you can do is try to recreate it by experimenting with how it feels in game until it's "good enough."

I don't think there is a Doom equivalent. No one tried to recreate Doom from scratch before the source was released.

>> No.1947412

>>1947394
>>1947408
It's more comparable to playing vanilla Strife versus Strife in ZDoom.

>> No.1947464

>>1946682
enjoy killing demons, m8

>> No.1947519 [DELETED] 

>>1946879
are you retarded, autistic, or did you just want an excuse that post that neat gif?

>> No.1947521

>>1946835
it's actually very easy when you get the hang of it. It's hard at the beginning because you probably have too little ammo and good weapons, look for the secrets. Shadow Warrior is possible to play slicing through the enemy hordes like a lightsaber slicing butter, just take your time to get the hang of it, it plays different from doom but ultimately i'ts the same thing only easier

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>> No.1947529

What's a bunch of friendly guys doing, playing such a violent game?

>> No.1947532

>>1947529

Our fathers told us to never be afraid of our inner ultra-violence

>> No.1947534

>>1942323
>playing doom2:

What you say sounds like Doom 3.

>> No.1947535 [DELETED] 

>>1947529
it's not violent really, after a while you just see targets. you press the mouse button and they disappear. it's like being neo in the matrix

>> No.1947550

>>1947529
It's like the metalhead sub culture, the more aggressive the entertainment, the chiller the community because they use it to relieve anger.

>> No.1947571

>>1947534
Speaking of, why does Doom 3 have a better android port than Doom 1 or 2? What the fuck is the deal. I just got an xperia play (with usable buttons and everything!) and was severely disappointed. Fucking quake runs beautifully though. Nearly as easy to move about as PC...

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doom arcade is back up

http://store.steampowered.com/app/266430

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>>1946057
>is mouselook cheating
eh
>on Icon of Sin
Absolutely it is cheating, do not listen to this
>>1946065
moron.

Vertical look on Icon of Sin ruins the entire fight. If you use freelook during that fight, you never beat the Icon of Sin.

Also,
>playing 2 before 1
what is wrong with you

My doom pictures aren't on this computer, so deal with this one

>> No.1947685

>>1947673
Who do this works?. does it stream the games?

>> No.1947687

>>1946319
>>1946316
Does anyone have that pic with something horrible and pony related in front of the player, and doomguy is using the ouch face?
That's one of my favorite pictures.

>> No.1947690

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QVPdAEW4fOg

>> No.1947696

>>1947690
>you have 24 hours

This sounds vaguely like a threat.

>> No.1947701

>>1947685
it can stream the games on the cabinet for the other people in the arcade, but the person playing has to be streaming on twitch, i actually had the creator of anarchy arcade come in and play a few doom games, the only doom game that actually let him stream it was Action Doom 2

but i've been in his arcades and other peoples arcades, and most other games stream without issue, and its pretty cool to watch it happen in game

also, even if you dont ever go online, its cool to bring all your digital media to a 3d form, kinda like a build your own namco museum game

i turned cs_office into my own personal arcade.

>> No.1947704

>>1947690
Did Romero do the challenge yet or did he not get nominated?

>> No.1947707

>>1947230
>that inventory
>that clipping of items into the ground
to what end

>> No.1947708

Somebody in this thread (I think) linked some simple program that allowed you to start zdoom with multiple WADs. Anybody have the link?

>> No.1947713

>>1947673

This looks interesting. Installing it now.
How do I get in?

>> No.1947719

>>1947713
there arent many servers, since everyone has to run their servers off their own client right now. so it should be one of three or four on the server browser, wont be hard to find.

>> No.1947721 [SPOILER] 
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SCRIBBLES

>> No.1947730

I don't know how this game works but I managed to put the 4 purchaseable Dom games from my Steam game list, they launch after I install the machines in my room, I don't know why I should keep this game on my library lol

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>>1947730
forgot pic

>> No.1947760
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>>1947721
Dude, do you have an art page somewhere? I need to see more of your work. If not, can you make a collection somewhere?

>> No.1947768

>>1947760
http://robotjoe.tumblr.com/ << Over here.

>> No.1947769

>>1947760
please see >>1945730

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>>1947768
Thanks man

>> No.1947823

>>1947768
Good shit. The stuff that isn't bottles in asses that is. Just not my thing. Still well done.

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1947850

>>1947721
I WOULDN'T HAVE NOTHIN' IF I DIDN'T HAVE YOU

>> No.1947853

>>1947532
Especially since our guts are such good size and all.

>> No.1947858

>>1947721

Not really my thing, but they still look nice for scribbles.

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>>1947853

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>>1947721
please neve rstop drawing caco girl


draw her feet too

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1947867

>>1947768
Just went on there.
Holy fuck, what did I just see.

>> No.1947868

>>1947865

Pretty sure that's Pain Elemental girl.

But caco-girl is fine too.

>> No.1947871

>>1947868
oh shit youre right

draw both of their feet

>> No.1947880

>>1947867
haha, yeah there's some weird stuff there. sorry

>>1947850
lmao, good

>> No.1947882

>>1947871
I don't see enough pics of them.
Or Impgirl.
Or Cybergirl.

>> No.1947892

>>1946368
give this mod an 80s synth soundtrack and you've got yourself an award winner

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>>1947721
I want to cuddle that Pain Elemental so badly

>> No.1947930

rip anarchade

>> No.1947938

>>1947930
That guy set up us quite the interesting server.

Maybe soon the program won't be a buggy mess.

>> No.1947942

>>1945486
Whether or not I'm a skeleton is not up for debate. Whether or not all games are 'ultimately' linear is the topic of the post to which I was replying.

>> No.1947964

>>1947892

Brb shitting up a mock build.

>> No.1947974

>>1946820

They're so easy to find. Learn to use the internet. Search for abandonware.

>> No.1947980

>>1946835

Practice.

>> No.1947983

>>1946856
I didn't like it very much either.
Nice graphics though.

>> No.1947992

I'm playing through HACX for the first time, and I got to the door with the words: "PROJECT GENIE" on them, but I have no idea what to do now. Normally I would just keep trying to figure it out, but I already ran around that room for about 10 minutes, and I'm trapped in that one room.

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>>1947532
>>1947853
>>1947860

>> No.1948035

>>1948016
kek

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1948056

new thread when

>> No.1948078

>>1947708

...That's what ZDL does. It's in the OP

>> No.1948085

>>1948056
you're one of those bastards aren't you

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>>1948085
i dinno what ypu're talking about

we're on page 7, new thread should be happening by now

>> No.1948109

>>1948098

I'm busy doing >>1947964
can't make the thread this time.

Someone else, please?

>> No.1948126

>>1948119
>>1948119
>>1948119