/vr/ - Retro Games

===NEWS===

Randy has been working on porting Blood stuff to ZDoom! Could this mean Bloodites can finally get a day to shine?

Aliens: Ultimate Doom is a texture/enemy replacement mod that takes Doom levels and reskins them to Aliens! http://forum.zdoom.org/viewtopic.php?f=19&t=45213

Another Dark Forces TC? Will it be better than Ryan's? (Probably not) http://forum.zdoom.org/viewtopic.php?f=19&t=46173

Some dork's been working on a site for us to replace the old, shitty one! Will this one thrive or will it flop as well? http://万板.縮.jp/

Got an itch for realism? Shattered Tranquility is a super-early WIP aiming for slightly more realistic weapons and weapon behaviors. http://forum.zdoom.org/viewtopic.php?f=19&t=46650

Here's a music stream that only plays Doom music, 24/7; feel free to listen if you're interested http://liquiddoom.net/

We've been featured on Doomworld! Well, sort of. /newstuff Chronicles gave 200 Minutes of /vr/ a pretty favorable review. http://doomworld.com/php/topstory.php?id=4198

"Ulti Doom" is yet another take on Doom 3 weapons/enemies in Doom, but Skornedemon's known to have made some pretty impressive stuff before. Will this succeed? http://forum.zdoom.org/viewtopic.php?f=19&t=46675

One of our own has just replaced a beta of his megawad. Give it a shot and let him know what you think! http://forum.zdoom.org/viewtopic.php?f=19&t=46676

===POPULAR MODS===

/vr/:
200 Minutes of /vr/: http://www.doomworld.com/idgames/?id=17781
GMOTA: http://forum.zdoom.org/viewtopic.php?p=742401
HDoom: http://www.best-ever.org/download?file=m12-hdoom-techdemo5.pk3
Metroid Dreadnought: http://zandronum.com/forum/showthread.php?tid=4561

Other:
Doom RPG: http://forum.zdoom.org/viewtopic.php?f=19&t=33292
DoomRL Arsenal: http://forum.zdoom.org/viewtopic.php?t=37044
Hideous Destructor: http://forum.zdoom.org/viewtopic.php?t=12973
Hocus Doom: http://forum.zdoom.org/viewtopic.php?t=45804

Got something news-worthy? Reply to this post, or it'll likely be missed.

I never understood how this was supposed to be a demon.
Seems more like just an alien to me.

So what the shit happened to the other thread? Just up and died suddenly. Did it go past page 10?

>>1937332
Dumbass shitposters I guess.

>>1937332
>>1937336

Keep calm and play Doom.

>Rappel from Deimos to Hell
>Suddenly all my gear is gone

>>1937341

Should've held on to them a little harder.

For the first time in 18 months...
Let this be a lesson for you.


Time to roll!
http://www.doomworld.com/idgames/random.php

>>1937347

I have no clue what you're saying, but whatever.

>>1937347
Boring.

>>1937350
>>1937347

And it's some sort of pseudo-soccer thing with a zombieman flashing colors constantly.
Hitting him sends him skidding across the floor, dead.
Then a squeaky chipmunk voice yells out and ten seconds later it respawns.

What the hell?

Oh and the title screen is a piece of shit.

No screenshots because my printscreen didn't work and I'm not opening this up again.

>>1937347

http://www.doomworld.com/idgames/index.php?file=levels/doom/g-i/helathom.zip

"You wake up in the morning and get out of bed (rubbing your red sleepy eyes), something's not quite right... This looks like your house, but it definitely isn't!

(There's something not quite right about that wallpaper, eh?)

You hear noises outside, they sound vaguely familar and you grab your shotgun before venturing out of you room... (huh... shotgun?) Soon you realise where you've heard those noises before, they're from that computer game DOOM(tm) that you've been playing a lot lately. THAT is what's wrong with the wallpaper! It's a wall texture from DOOM! Oh no, either DOOM has somehow become real or you're having a DOOMmare... Do you want to wake up?"

Eh, it -is- a 1994 WAD.

>>1937347
Oh shit.

>>1937373
jaysus

Just wanted to tell y'all that I just got ZDoom and loaded up Doom 2 in 1920x1080.

The nostalgia trip of the game itself, which I haven't really played since I was too young, was one thing, but seeing it in that glorious resolution was another.

It's a good old hobby, I guess.

>>1937373
>>1937378

WHY

>>1937378

>>1937315
>Last thread >>1930127

That's not the last thread. The last thread was >>1936407 and has been pruned or deleted. Get it right, OP.

>>1937378
Well, this is awful.
Who uses red mascara any way?

>>1937380
>>1937380
Nice to hear. After you're done revisiting old memories, maybe get Plutonia 2, set up a game on Ultra-Violence, and tear shit up. Make some new ones.

Or just enjoy yourself. Play how you like.

>>1937347

http://www.doomworld.com/idgames/index.php?file=music/madonna.zip

O-ok...

>>1937393

I'd much rather link to a thread still alive than a deleted thread.

>>1937329
What if thats all demons are

>>1937416
They are an abstract kind of alien.

Was there ever a wad idea you wanted to make but couldn't?
What was it /vr/?

>>1937329
Demons are aliens from another dimension

>>1937513
American Overkill

> One of our own has just replaced a beta of his megawad. Give it a shot and let him know what you think! http://forum.zdoom.org/viewtopic.php?f=19&t=46676

Yeah, this. I'm back from work now and planning on sleeping for a while, then later I'm going to start bugfixing and redoing stuff based on feedback.

There's a link to the wad and a bunch of screens in the Doomworld & ZDoom threads so give it a shot!

>>1937329
Demons would be alien to us so...

>>1937329
aliens corrupted by hell just like zombies revenants and maybe even mancubuses are corrupted humans

>>1937329
"Cyberlady Where do demons come from?"
U-um, well, when a demon woman and a man love each other very much, you see, ah... they kind of... do a lot of infighting, and then the pain elemental carries them in with their mouth!

I've been playing Risen 3D a little lately, and I can't feel anything but the fact that all of the enemies and weapons feel so underwhelming.
Are there any good Model Packs for Risen 3D whatsoever?

>>1937347
http://www.doomworld.com/idgames/index.php?file=graphics/bny3dwad.zip
Uh... hm.

>>1937645

>>1937636
Is that Hissy?

>>1937647
The idle sound is replaced with drumming, I assume from an energizer bunny commercial.
When they explode, they make the usual DSSLOP sound, and then they say "Still going!". They have a very uneededly gory death.

fuck off casual shit eating doom babies

>>1937662
I bet you're the faggot that got the old thread deleted.
All I can ask is for you to leave.

>>1937645
>http://www.doomworld.com/idgames/random.php

I remember this wad from when I was a kid. When the bunnies explode the animation is huge then reduces down to just their head on a pile of red pixels basically.

>>1937665
what an appropriate picture for a doom baby

>>1937668
Not sure how that random link got in there, but I was talking about the "Energizer Bunny" wad. :P

>>1937665
>responding to shitposters

>>1937674
You just did the same thing dickhead.

>>1937347
http://www.doomworld.com/idgames/index.php?file=levels/doom/a-c/attack.zip
It begins.

>>1937683
This poor guy is stuck in a wall.

>>1937684
The wad apparently replaces E2M1 and E2M2. E2M1's theme is replaced with Eye of the Tiger.

>>1937685
A nice glass breaking effect, interesting for 1997, no?

>>1937693
I had to IDSPISPOPD to get out of that place.
I eventually found a switch which made the level unbeatable.

>>1937347
http://www.doomworld.com/idgames/index.php?file=levels/doom2/j-l/landlord.zip
Um...
Cool title.
Shame about... Mostly everything else...

So faw I've downloaded Doom the way id did, Scythe, Return to Saturn X megawads, any other recommendations to new player?

>decide to play this classic FPS
>download Zdoom
>crouch and jump around
>some parts of level progression don't make sense but chalk it up to bad level design because without jumping some secrets don't appear accessible
>eventually realise I've been playing the game wrong the entire time

>>1937728
>any other recommendations to new player?

Have you played The ultimate Doom? Doom 2?

>>1937728
Yeah, check the 10 years of Doom and play every single wad on this list. It is still relevant and always will be.

http://www.doomworld.com/10years/

>>1937739

Yes, finished all of them with keyboard only.

>>1937743
Holy shit dude. Nice.

>>1937736
>>some parts of level progression don't make sense but chalk it up to bad level design because without jumping some secrets don't appear accessible
Bahahaahaha
BETCHA DIDN'T EXPECT SECRET WALLS HUH?
This is why I'm infinitely curious why the defualt Doom MAPINFO allows jumping

>>1937743
see, this is why whe need zdoom to come with info about how the games were/weren't meant to be played.

something like
-crouch: can break maps
-jumping: same as above
-mouselook: used since doom testing, 100% ok
-freelook: Can kill enemies that otherwise couldn't be reached, but that's minor

>>1937758

Yeah, Final Doom was pretty hard with keyboard only, didn't play with UV but HMP, still as a first time playthrough it was hard enough without mouse. I always use kb+mouse and UV on GZdoom and it makes things tons easier coupled with autorun.

>>1937759
Who the fuck jumps and crouches in maps, unless the author tells you to do so?

>>1937378
>Rubberhread alien chick as doomguy
It's always something

>>1937784
I've crouched and jumped in some maps.
Mostly when I play them with Hideous Destructor, though.

>>1937784
Why do you care? It's their choice if they want to cheat.

>>1937801
But this is fucking retarded if they break maps ON MOTHERFUCKING PURPOSE.
Jesus fucking Christ, why dont these fucking monkeys just play properly, I dont give a fuck about this shit mouselook or freelook, they can play and have fun, BUT breaking maps IS NOT FUCKING FUN.
They are just as fucking bad as those fucking fuckers using noclip and god mode before they hit the ground after falling from a cliff. This is retarded and only dumbfucks do this, thats why you save the fuckiung game.
Really, theres NO FUCKING REASON to ever jump or crouch, UNLESS YOU ARE MOTHERFUCKING TOLD TO DO SO.
Plain retarded and ridiculous, fuck this shit

The usual.

Do NOT respond to the post aove

>>1937784
Well, sometimes it's not clear.

Do I jump this gap, or is there a button?

Is there no button? Did I not look hard enough?

In my opinion, if jumping and crouching are needed, there should be a simple part near the beginning where they are obviously required to proceed.

>>1937810
>>1937816
I am a rebel

>>1937784
>>1937808
Its the mappers fault, not the players, you nigger.
If the mapper dont want the player to jump, they should modify the MAPINFO lump. Now shut the fuck up, you are legitimately retarded.

>>1937513
Dredd

>>1937513
A 9-level episode where all the levels are based off of Sodom songs, with midis of the songs the levels are based on.
I couldn't find midis for the songs, and it took too long to make.

>>1937840
I did the same with Helloween MIDIs, I just finished two maps, got bored.

>>1937840
I can already imagine the level that you'd get the chainsaw from...

Any work on Demonsteele lately?

>>1937808
I play gameplay mods that use jumping as an evasive maneuver in maps that aren't meant for jumping all the time. I just keep track of where I can only reach by jumping and try not to go where I shouldn't.

It's not to play "the right way," though. It's to prevent myself from getting stuck in a place I have to noclip out of.

>>1937879
>gameplay mods that use jumping as an evasive maneuver

That sounds cool, what gameplay mods are those? Anything other than MSX?

>>1937884
Really, you could do this in just about anything. You just have to enable jumping and crouching in whatever source-port you're using, like Zandro and (G)ZDoom..

>>1937884
Can't think of any besides Demonsteele and GMOTA

>>1937840
Once I had the idea of making a NAM mod entirely based on M16
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9NemUDI9N-I

>>1937329
Hot Toys Spiderdemon when?

Do not respond to Mark
Dont cause drama, just report him

>>1937884
>>1937898
Those two, as well as Satanic Redux.

>>1937903
Was there ever any consensus on whether it was called the "Spiderdemon" or the "Spider Mastermind"?

>>1937840
>Sodom
I like you

>>1937917
It can be both, I think.

>>1937917
Spiderdemon applies to both the Arachnotron and Mastermind, if Doom 3 counts, the Trites, Ticks, and the Vagaries also fit the bill.

>>1937917
>>1937917
E3M8 calls it the "spiderdemon who masterminded the invasion", while the casting call at the end of Doom 2 calls it "The Spider Mastermind". They're interchangeable, I guess.

>>1937347
Forbidden Mines. 1997 wad. Not bad. Poor choice of monsters in some cases and instead of planning out monster attacks they opt to just chuck as many as possible at you at once. Sometimes in unavoidable heavy damage situations. Still. New sounds. Invuln sphere paints the world red, and overall not a shitty map. Just a bit of a clusterfuck. Though it was 1997.

http://www.doomworld.com/idgames/index.php?file=levels/doom2/0-9/2fiffy5.zip

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9E7MPl4G2Qc

Best Doom 2 track? Best Doom 2 track.

>>1937989
That's not D_IN_CIT

>>1937989
imp lying

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PkhCNx-8Qos

>>1937784
All the time, it's great for dodging enemy fire.
A spider mastermind can't hose me down with lead if I'm crouching down beneath the window, waiting for my shotgun to reload.

Jumping can be a good way to get yourself out of being cornered, surrounded by Pinkies, just jump up and move away, walking on their heads. Sometimes also to dodge the odd projectile, or to put a shot through a window or hole up on a wall sometimes.

>>1937989
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L5KVMnS9zgY
Best DOOM 1 track?

>>1937996
Oh shit I totally forgot about this.

>>1937347
http://www.doomworld.com/idgames/index.php?file=levels/doom2/Ports/v-z/zeroday.zip

Disgusting, don't play this pile of crap.
>too long
>confusing map design
>overall boring architecture
>broken textures
>way too much ammo and health bonuses

>>1938021
For me, this track is one of the worst. Too boring.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tEAYqiKFk9c
My favorite one.

>>1938037
YES
YOUR TASTE IS EXCELLENT

>>1938037
WINNER

>>1938021
>>1938037
I'm going with E2M1

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NlWDSvNSzlA

>>1938021
I've always loved Pantera - Rise.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NrMrF_k_fMo
I mean, E1M4.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=43aj3ag3H1c

>>1938048
I remember when I discovered that E1M1 of Duke Nukem 2 was secretly "Angry Again" by Megadeth. I wonder if anyone's ever made a WAD that replaces the Doom music with its "inspirations" where applicable. Copyright issues aside, it sounds like it'd be awesome.

Are there any wads with a wild-west theme?

>>1938065
Yes.

>>1938065
PASS THE WHISKEY

>>1938065

Fistful of Doom
Boothill

And that's it. Woop de doo.
No really, we just have those two wads in the community

Has anyone ever tried remaking Heretic in Doom?

>>1937876

Yes, plenty. I just haven't really been posting about it a lot because I don't want to seem as if I'm really pushing it down everyone's throats.
Still, if you're really interested in what I've been doing as of late, here's a tentative title screen I've been drumming up.

Bonus points if you can guess the inspiration.

>>1938098
Half of Manowar album covers have lightnings striking swords.

>>1938098

The background looks like something right off of Firewind.

>>1938098
THERE CAN BE
ONLY ONE
>tfw this is the only relevant image

>>1938117
>>1938119

Damn, that was fast. I'm impressed, anons.
Yup, it's a combination of Manowar's Triumph of Steel and Firewind's Between Heaven and Hell.

>>1938098
>>1938117
>>1938119
>>1938126
/doom/ - Metal As Fuck

Making some music for a DOOM WAD I'm working on.
Intro Screen:http://vocaroo.com/i/s1sxFMh2ld8Y
Map1:http://vocaroo.com/i/s1Zl8WQNdI2e

Any critiques?

Fuck it I'm gonna try beating Doom on UV using default controls.

I'm feeling particularly masochistic today.

>>1938182

Godspeed, anon.

>>1937317
Going Down episode 3 is out.

http://www.doomworld.com/vb/wads-mods/65955-going-down-final-episode-has-arrived/

>>1938065
Not enough.

>>1937317
So, uh, Going Down E3 is out. http://www.doomworld.com/vb/wads-mods/65955-going-down-final-episode-has-arrived/

>>1938182
>I'm feeling particularly masochistic today.

then play >>1938203

>>1938182
You do know that original Doom had mouselook out of the box though, right? It was locked on the 2D pane but you don't have to do keyboard only.

>>1938065
In addition to what >>1938082 listed there's also The Gunfighter, a gameplay mod based largely on Outlaws. There's also a couple of really cool wild west maps in Dynamite Deathmatch.

>>1938212
cmon, step it up

>>1938203
>>1938212
>>1938220

if anything, it shows how people were expecting arguably one of the hardest mapsets in the past 10 years

>>1938215
I'm not really trying to get a "pure" experience. I just wanna try something new.

>>1938037
agreed.

>>1938215
He'll still have a problem with strafe left and right being bound to "," and "." respectievly, having arrows for movement and spacebar for use. Strafe on button is alt in this case so it won't help much, also it makes your mouse movement count as a strafe to whatever side you're waving it.
>>1938220
Well, I'm kind of a slow poster because I tend to look for pics for a few fucking minutes.

>>1938176

Not bad. The title screen one sounds a bit boringish tho in my opinion.

>>1938098
Chances for naked women on the side?

>>1938090
...What? Heretic is already using the Doom engine.

>>1938090
heretic is pretty much doom with a medieval paint

>>1937989
My personal favourite: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7ykijtbW0Vk

>>1938247

I like not being banned, so very little.

>>1938251
Sorry for brootle dum ;_;

>>1937280

>10 bucks says you've never even touched uvfast

if he is/was straight out jumping to maps with custom monsters, then you can rest assured he never knew about -fast

but once again, he was more than likely trolling with that argument, but nothing changes the fact that there's people that think in that way

Any idea how I can actually take out armor I've deposited in the locker in DoomRPG? Even with space in the inventory and no armor on I still can't

>>1938216
>a gameplay mod based largely on Outlaws
Which is a shame, because Outlaws is ugly as fuck.
I wish there was some elaborate Wild West mod that looked good too.

>>1938248
No what I mean is a Doom campaign that almost completely replicates the Heretic campaign, except it uses Doom textures, monsters, weapons, etc.

I just think it's be pretty neat.

oh no

>>1938261

In that case, why not just play Heretic?

>Heretic E4M1 on Smite-Meister

This shit makes Doom E4 feel like cakewalk in comparison

>>1938271
Wait until E5M1

Now there's a real bastard of a level.

>>1938268
god nevermind

>>1938261
>>1938276

No, >>1938268 is entirely right. Heretic is Heretic. Putting a Doom skin on Heretic is just copying the level layout and then it's Doom again. There's literally no point to this. Neither of us have any idea why you think this needs to be a thing when it more or less already is a thing.

>>1938283
I'm sorry

>>1938258
or just rip stuff off call of juarez, it looked like a pretty generic western rail shooter, but i remember the weapons looking fine (if not a bit boring)

>>1938284
Here's an idea.
Go look up a mod called Guncaster. It's by the same guy who did Russian Overkill.
Basically, it takes Heretic and adds guns and a spell store. It's actually designed for Heretic specifically, you have to load an extra file to run it with Doom.
GREETINGS MORTAL, ARE YOU READY TO BUY?

>>1938290
isn't that the mod with the dragon player and the bioshock-like magic?

>>1938290
For Heretic I prefer to use that Quake weapon mod.

I really don't like Heretic's vanilla weaponry, it's so weak and dinky.

>>1938293
Yes.

>>1938294
I'm unfamiliar with it, but I haven't played Guncaster with Heretic yet, so...

>>1938294
>I really don't like Heretic's vanilla weaponry, it's so weak and dinky.

Well nuts to you.

>>1938294
wrath of chronos is pretty fun with heretic too
at least the necromancer stuff

>>1937401
i want this as a wallpaper, with nothing but the revenants

>>1938257
Bump

>>1938298
I love the gauntlets so much

ZAP, MOTHAFUCKA

>>1937513
A TC inspired by Kingpin and Damage Incorporated. You play as a shadow government sponsored trigger man, tasked to slaughter various criminal organizations/cults single handedly by any means necessary before those groups have to be dealt with by more public special forces. The setting is real-world but with an ambiguous time period like the above mentioned games, plus Hollywood realism. There are also shops and gear upgrading like with Kingpin's Pawn-O-Matic in between missions, but not as in-depth as DoomRLA. A gun might have an alternative one, with only a few mods for each gun.

There was a mod called Trailblazer that looks like it had the aesthetic of what I have in mind, but it seems to dead for the time being.

>>1938176
Way too quiet and too monotonous

>>1938176
Needs more instuments, maybe an instument with a sharper sound.

Anyone know where I can download the pc version of No Rest for the Living? I had it before but things happened and now I don't and I can't find it anywhere.

Didn't map much this week, but here's what I've added to my map, the areas ain't done yet may lack a bit of detail or look boring.

1/3

>>1938489
have you tried googling NRFTL+.wad? it should give you a good link

>>1938493

2/3

>>1938502

3/3

So I just finished Unloved with Demonsteele and holy crap was that fun. The atmosphere, the hordes of monsters (Minus flying enemies, fuck them) and level design was great for slicing shit up.

Any other wads recommended to go with Demonsteele?

P.S. WHOOPS

>>1938493
>>1938502
>>1938506
Looking pretty good man

Also, kind of an open question, but how long on average do you guys spend per map?

>>1938489

http://www.best-ever.org/download?file=nrftl%2B.wad

>>1938493
>>1938502
>>1938506
Damn this looks nice.

>>1938261
I wanna see a Hexen style campaign for Doom, complete with the branching paths, hubs, consistent levels, and flawless transitions. You could play it with WoC or Doom Rpg/RLA to get that Hexen style class system.

>>1938515
>Flying enemies
Unless it's pain elementals back special does really good on them if they're above you.

Demonsteele works with Speed of Doom very well.

>>1938535
Unloved

>>1938515
I had a lot of fun playing Unloved with with Accessories to Murder, which I like to call Gritty Doom.

Jesus Christ, am I the only one who gets the worst motion sickness imaginable over prolonged plays of Doom? I was just playing Circle of Death in Doom 2 after about an hour and a half of glorious Dooming, and I literally almost vomited.

I've had this problem with old FPS games for ages, and I guess it's not gone away. Newer ones don't bother me.

Is it just me?

>>1938628

Does OpenGL renderer and movebob 0 in the console help any?

>>1938628
Overtly gray maps hurt my eyes, especially when combined with MSX style visor huds. Thankfully I can turn Metroid Dreadnought's hud into a status bar, but some maps are just impossible for me to play without getting a migrane

>>1938628
No lots of people are like this, especially back in the 90s when games like these felt more "lifelike".

Sorry to hear that, man.

>>1938638
Also configure the FoV .

>>1938628
If you have vsync disabled the may be the cause if you notice the screen bending if you move fast.

>>1938643
What's the default field of view anyway?

>>1937341
You dried everything to the cyberdemon[according to the story]

i managed to copy a wad from my original the ultimate doom for mac . i am happy

>>1938660

90 I think?

Also, was fov a thing with wolf 3d and doom?

>>1938727
I think it was something lower than 90, I remember having to set to 90 from a fresh download.

>>1938535
Daedalus:Alien Defense by Team TNT is pretty close to what you're describing.

>>1938065
There's Back to the Future Part 3 map in Zombie horde that's really fun.

>>1938743
how do you set fov in gzdoom

>>1938752
go to the console and type in "fov (number)"

>>1938518

Because I'm a slow ass taking huge pauses I take 3 months to do a 10 minute map.

If I really want to finish my maps "quickly" it's around 2/3 weeks for a 10 minute maps with average detailling.

>>1938515
Umm
There's a way to load Unloved and DoomRLA?

Last time i tried to load them it didn't worked

Fuck off Doom babbies.

>>1938530

Thanks :)

Will post more tomorow I think

:: [BE] Montreal :: SamsaraHold: The return to Hell!

I'm lonely

>>1938723
>mac

i know this is a bit out of the topic/board, but what do you guys think about the shadow warrior remake?

>>1938727
Nah, but it was a quake thing. It was requested enough to be put in zDoom.

>>1938743
I just tested in Chocolate Doom and zDoom, there's no difference in fov. It's 90. Maybe some console versions lowered it?

>>1938784
It was alright but i didn't liked how the humor got changed

>>1938784
It was fun enough for what it was. The melee/magic katana powers kind of made most of the other weapons useless. It had some pretty funny patches in it too and the monster design was pretty great.
Boss fights were shit

>>1938783
a wad is a wad

>>1938771
Duke, what happened?
You were the fucking dude, you had babes, cash, good looks, you had it all...
And now you're reduced to shitposting on 4chan.
What happened...

>>1938842

DNF happened.

>>1938864
More like Gearbox Software happened.

Fuck off to /vg/

So uhh... how do change soudfonts in gzdoom? is worth it?

>>1938905
no its not, makes everything sound awful, because most soundfonts are horrible and not even properly low-pass filtered, you can still hear white noise, fuck the high frequencies. Seems like those fucking apes know jackshit about proper DSP, dirty niggers.
Only MusicAnons soundfont is somewhat okay

>>1938905
>is it worth it?

Depends on the soundfont you're using.
Most of the SNES soundfonts will sound terrible, for example. Something like Timidity might sound pretty good.
Another anon made a guide about how to set up soundfonts, lemme see if I can find it.

>>1938871
Gearbox practically just added one or two things that were missing. They said it was just about done when they got a hold of it.

>>1938905
If you're using Timidity++, you need to set it up seperate.
If you're using Fluidsynth, you need to change the fluid_patchset console variable.
More information can be found in their respective ZDoom wiki entries.
http://zdoom.org/wiki/FluidSynth
http://zdoom.org/wiki/TiMidity++

>>1937315

Douk is the only I like in Samsara, besides DoomGuy

>normal/explosive shotgun
>RPG
>kick

Who is your main?

>>1938985
Blazkowicz.
The flamethrower kicks ass, he's absolutely perfect for co-op.

>>1938985
Ranger.
I never did like getting up close with anything but SSG. Plus, grenades!

>>1938985
Security Officer and Blazjkowics FTW.

Would you pay $20 to spend thirty minutes locked in a room with a revenant?

>>1939017
No, I have some fucking standards. $20 should get me two revenants, or one jetpack revenant.

>>1939013
This nigga is my man.

>>1939017

20 minute session of doom pro strats? Of course.

>>1938985

SecOff and Parias.

>>1938985
As much as I like Samsara, Doomguy pisses me off, because his role is meant to be "damage", but this is bullshit. Duke, Ranger and SO do way more damage.

>>1939038

His pistol should do more damage as should everything else

>>1938985
I main Duke, BJ if it gets too tough.

>Doomguy
His damage is way too low.

>Corvus
Neat, he's a decent class.

>Parias
I know he is a Brawler, but his range is still very large. His range is even better than the SO's.

>BJ
Very accurate, does a lot of damage, but I think his ripping rocket might be OP. And it annoys me that he is supposed to be killing enemies from far away, yet his slot 7 has a very short range. BULLSHIT, FUCK YOU TERM

>Duke
>"Time to kick a-"
>Anon killed himself.
(doesnt happen to me, I am very careful. Very good class)

>Ranger
One of the best classes, but I dislike him because he deals low damage (unless he has quad)

>SO
Great class, it just sucks that he has no manual reload button just like Freeman did in HL1.

>Chex
Bad Doomguy copy, why is he even in Samsara? I dont get it.

>>1939038
>Duke, Ranger and SO do way more damage.
Uh
No
When it comes to burst damage, nothing any of them do can outclass the SSG or BFG

>>1939069
>tissues next to Carmack photo

l-lewd

and yes I know that's a girl.

>>1938985
Ranger's fucking fun. I don't even like quake that much, but the weapons themselves are great.

Guys quick, is there a cvar that allows for barehand spawns?

>>1939086
Are you saying you don't jerk it to the Two Johns on a regular basis? Look at these sexual tyrannosaurs.

Why is the Doom community full of trannies and other gross people?

>>1939105

>>1939121
>trannies

where

>>1939121
That's not the Doom community. That's the 4chan community. Why are you here if you don't like it?

>>1939121
It's the doomfag curse. Every doomfag seems to either die in a car crash or turn into a transsexual. There's been at least a dozen transsexuals IIRC and almost every doomfag that died did so in a car crash.

>>1939105
>>1939127
Why does Romero look so weird in every picture? Like, even in recent ones he just looks strange. Is it the price of such luscious locks?

>>1939098
No but you can always do "take pistol"

>>1939121
Not sure if complaining about us or complaining about Zandronerds.

>>1939121
You're thinking of the average Zandrones. fuck those people

>>1939127
This is what I see everytime someone posts that pic.
Maybe a drawfag could draw this, I just made a 5-sec shop

>>1939121
>2014
>not liking futa

>>1939173

Oddly fitting.

Let's play a game.

>Go to http://www.doomworld.com/idgames/?random
>Don't read the description, just download the WAD and play it for a couple minutes
>Write a backstory to the WAD you just played and post it in this thread, along with a link to the WAD

When I try to run doom.wad with chocolate doom, it always loads up Doom 2. I'm kind of at a loss, does anybody have any idea what is going on?

>>1939208
Either you're passing it wrong parameters, have it configured wrong, or misnamed your WAD.

>>1937315
>FEEL THE BURN

>>1939208

At the risk of stating the obvious, are you sure you're loading Doom and not just loading Doom as a pwad to Doom 2's iwad?

Fuck off, cocksucking doom babies

Gee, I wonder who's behind this shitposting.

oh wow he really showed us.
come on guys, pack it in. one guy keeps calling us babies so we better leave
fucking faggot

>>1939219

Can the mods confirm the shitposter is german?

>>1939219
doombabies of course
you're a gigantic shitstain on the canvas of /vr/

>>1939215

I want to see a response to this where the caco starts lifting with his tongue and eventually can flex it like a bicep.

>>1939238
Does a cacodemon have a tongue?

>>1939238
Do you think he will be able to this as a result?

So how about y'all niggas post some pictures of your adventures and discoveries and junk?

>>1939247

I also want to see a comic where Doomguy gets close to a caco, the caco opens his mouth, and his tongue punches him in the face, complete with a curled fist at the end

>>>/vg/80260418
>>>/vg/80260504
>this guy thinks carmack does it just for the money

>>1939257
>linking to /vg/ or /v/
>ever
We are better than this. Please don't do this

>>1939261

hownew.ru

These threads, whether some people like it or not, started at /v/. And some mods that are discussed in here were born in /v/

>>1939270
>And some mods that are discussed in here were born in /v/
hahaha, sure
fuck off shitposter

>>1939261
/vg/, depending on which general you choose, is not as bad as /v/, but both are still undermoderated.

>>1939257
>Bringing in drama from an unrelated thread
nope.

>>1939276

Samsara.

>>1939276
Dude, that's objectively true, Samsara started on /v/. He's not making shit up.

>>1938985
Ranger with a friend playing Chex was the class I used to beat the Big MooMoo on the Samsara Invasion server.

>>1939069
>why is he even in Samsara? I dont get it.

so people could complain about muh Caleb

>>1939105

>>1939069
>why is he even in Samsara?
because samsara started off with copy/pasting off the doom wiki for a few laughs and doomguy/corvus/chex were the first

>>1939295
Ok and why is Caleb NOT included?

>>1939069
>His damage is way too low.
Doomguy has some of the highest damage amd is only beat clean when Ranger has quad damage.

>Why is Chex in Samsara
Because Chex Quest was made in Doom engine.

>>1939307
Or Strifeguy?

>>1939295
>[1][1][1][1][1][1]...

>>1939314
Or Lo Wang, or Redneck guy, or Freeman, or Tekwar guy, or Exhumed guy

>>1939315

sorry, I don't have the time to add jokes in filenames

speaking of which, is there a graphic-only version of Simpsons Doom?

>>1939317
Don't forget Corridor 7 Man!

>>1939314
Strifeguy becomes complete wrekkage when you get some upgreades

>>1938076
>Fistful of Frags reference
mah nigguh

>>1939307
>>1939314
>>1939317
>>1939320

WHY ISN'T THERE DAIKATANA GUY IN SAMSARA?
FFS HE'S ONLY FROM THE MOST RECOGNIZABLE AND ICONIC FPS GAME

IF FUCKING MARATHON GUY CAN GET IN THE PEOPLE DESERVE DAIKATANA GUY

>>1939339
IF YOU THINK DIAKATANA GUY DESERVES A SPOT OVER THE CAST OF RISE OF THE TRIAD, YOU'VE GOT ANOTHER THING COMMING!

>>1939339
>>1939348

CAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAPS

>>1939348
>>1939339
We should get some Hexen 2 representation.
I would love to play as Assassin.

>>1939201
http://www.doomworld.com/idgames/index.php?file=levels/doom/a-c/bhouse2.zip

A level modeled after the home of one Bart McEndree. Slimetrails are a plenty.

>>1939339
>>1939348
NEVER FUCKING FORGET MY FUCKING MAIN MEN, GRONDOVAL AND THE POWERSLAVE GUY, YOU FAGGOTS!

>>1939381
HOLD THE FUCKING PHONE FOR EXTREME PAINT BRAWL GUY!

hello?

>>1939201
http://www.doomworld.com/idgames/index.php?file=levels/doom2/d-f/fallen.zip

Doomguy finally is thrown into his own personal hell, and is endlessly killed by invisible crushers and hordes of cyberdemons

>>1939394
You better not forget Alan "The Bear" Westmoreland

If Doomguy were a pro wrestler, he'd be Teary Funk

god dammit terminus
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g5Kj72RpNsc

>>1939339
Fuck that, where's MARS 3DGuy?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VDBUzMuSKyo

>>1939339
Bring me the Harmony Harlot!

What would be a good way to go about making a true duel wielding mod?

>>1939605
well first you should learn to spell dual correctly

>>1939621
Shit. Just noticed it.

>>1939208
Rename the Doom 2 wad.

Does anyone enjoy Back to Saturn X?

>>1939657
No, not a single person
I'm playing through ep 1

>>1939402

REMOVE THIS

>>1939657
Good mapsets (though I have the weird feeling they have too much polish, if that makes sense). BTSX E1 map01 has awful music though. Thankfully, E2 map01 redeems itself tenfold on that front.

>>1939657
I like it, but haven't finished it.

I've been in a Dooming rut, so to speak.
Just haven't been enjoying it as much.

I think I need a break or some sort of gameplay mod to spice it up.

>>1939710

>I think I need a break or some sort of gameplay mod to spice it up.

The Blessed Engine never disappoints for something different.

>fucking BFG Imps
>insta-kill Barons
>soldiers running backwards

Ultimate DOOM only, though.

>>1939715
I already played that actually.
It was silly and fun but it doesn't last very long.

That's why I think I just need a break.

>>1939717

Oh. Huh.

Yeah, just forget about DOOM for a few months and then come back.

Or you could give the DOOM RPG and DoomRL Arsenal + Monsters a shot, if you haven't yet.

>>1939724
Played those too.
They are fun. I am just waiting for Doom RLA to have melee weapons now.

I've been in a Doom binge for the past.. I want to say at least 8 years.

So many fun mods, so many fun levels.
Was disappointed in modern gaming like really hard so I just play Doom.

Even something that should have been rad as shit like Vanquish was really slow and uninteresting.
Project MSX blew that shit out of the water with ease.

I still play vanilla Doom most of the time though.
I just use Eriguns and edited the player a bit.

When it comes to Doom mods I'm waiting for Project MSX to get updated, Demonsteele to be finished, and Threshold of Pain 2.

Oh and Trailblazer if that isn't dead.

Even though I'm in a Doom rut, it's still the most fun game to me right now.

Does Sunder let up a tiny bit after grinder because holy shit this map is tough.

>>1939736

Maybe play something else? There are plenty of games out there that are good.

>>1939741
That's the problem, I don't really have much fun with anything besides Doom.

I keep trying other games but they just kind of leave me uninterested.

>>1939738
It gets significantly harder.

>>1939748

No other games at all? What sort of games have you been trying?

>>1939752
Let's see..

I tried Destiny. Too slow and guns don't feel so good.
Played Quake 1 and 2 recently. Kinda enjoyable but after awhile I just get tired of it.
Watch Dogs, was really bad and made me upset.

Shmups can keep my attention because I love dodging bullets, but bullet hells do not necessarily draw me into them because patterns are not as interesting as dodging projectiles that adapt to where you're at.

So something like Cho Ren Sha 68k is fun, but Ikaruga is not.

Ys has the pacing I like but not the difficulty outside of boss fights. Fun though. But I finished all of them on the hardest difficulties.

>>1939754

Eh, most people agree Quake 2 is an absolute bore.

Have you tried Serious Sam yet? Snag The First Encounter and The Second Encounter and give them a spin. Some folks call them the Western forays into bullet hell games, but they're retro-styled FPS games through and through.

Maybe try to get into RTS games? Red Alert 2 is a particularly popular one that can be played at an absolutely hectic pace and has a big following still. Age of Empires and Empire Eath may still have some players, too.

Maybe try some of the old WRPGs? I'm guessing they probably don't have the pacing for you, but they're good games.

Aside from that, I dunno. Taking a break from DOOM may do you well.

I think that HD would be a lot better with Crossfire-style near-instant stop movement.
Anyone know how to accomplish this?

>>1939769
Played all the Sams. It is okay but lacks the pacing. Fights feel like they drag on.

>RTS
I can't get into them at all, never found them interesting and would rather play on the battlefield instead of the hand that guides the army.

>WRPGs
I just don't find them particularly enjoyable most of the time.
The gameplay is very.. not engaging in just about any that I play.
The stories are fine enough, but I don't really feel motivation to continue the gameplay.

>>1939787
There's nothing worse than feeling obligated to finish a game just because of the story.
I played through a JRPG on the GBA and it had a more time-consuming combat system than others and it was just a every two step random-encounter slog.

Kind of retro, but have you played any one the Oddworld games? If you're not a fan of platforming or have already played them, there's Oddworld: Stranger's Wrath. It's a strange mix of Pikmen and FPS bounty-hunting action. Don't get it on the PC, Just Add Water fucked the port and never fixed it. Get the XBOX Original version.

Polite sage for not retro.

>>1939657
I'm playing it right now, and I like it a lot.

>>1939787
Also, the Kleer are the most unfun and boring enemy to fight. I'd take being slain by chaingun zombies from across a map than fighting these guys.

>>1939769
Quake 2's alright, it's not a massive step up from Quake 1 or anything. Its expansion packs also gave us the nailgun back, along with a fucking pump-action rocket launcher.

The only thing that bothers me is that none of its sourceports removes the gibs fading away, like Quake 1 and Darkplaces. Is there any method to remove that?

>>1939838
I think Kleer are okay, there's not a lot to them besides numbers though.

Serious Sam does have great enemies, but it feels like there's a point where fights drag on a tad too long and that's why I don't really like Serious Sam as much.

I really like it's enemy placement for the most part, and the battles are interesting and make up for the lack of level design.

But I reach this point where the fights just feel like they drag on and that's what stops me from really liking Serious Sam.

>>1939902
My biggest problem is probably Sam's speed. Feels as if he should be way faster.

>>1939748

I'm kinda the same, I hardy play anything other than doom, though things changed last month as I first tried Xcom (remake). Can't stop playing it. I'm on my third playthrough (and I'm still shit at it.)

>>1939754
> I'm sick of Doom
> tried to play modern games but they suck ass
> tried to play other retro FPS but lost interest
> wat do

Dude. Come on. You're on /vr/.

Castlevanias. Contra. Shatterhand. Gradius 2. Kick Master. Plenty of other cool, fast-paced bitchin' franchises and individual games that you can play. You just need to know where to look.

I mean, if it's fast paced you want, it doesn't get much faster than Contra 3 or Hard Corps.

>>1939902
That's the thing. They're okay to fight in threes or so, but the game dumps twenty of them at once and it turns the game into a luck-based "mash s+m1+strafe" game.

>Have Windows 8.1
>Accidentally delete folder containing all my doom stuff (Source port, wads, iwads, ZDL3, etc)
"No worries, I'll just restore to a previous point! Just like Windows 7!"
>Windows 8 restore isn't the same as Windows 7
>Can't restore specific folders to a previous point in time, have to restore entire computer
"That's okay! As long as I get my Doom back!"
>Restore takes 15 minutes
>Laptop restarts
"Oh good, my Doom folder is back!"
>Open folder
>All the wads and iwads are gone
>Just GZDoom and ZDL3 remain within the folder
>The restore also made Google Chrome stop working
I fucking hate you Steve Balmer.

>>1937329
They are aliens, other demons are just genetically created by them to instill fear to humans.

>>1939991

Maybe if you go by the shitty novels.

>>1939983

Oh, man. I'm so sorry to hear that, man.

>>1939993
It's not a BIG deal, but it's fucking annoying. In Windows 7, say I deleted a file in a folder on accident, and emptied my recycle bin without knowing. All I'd have to do is right click on the folder it was in, hit "Restore In Previous Session", and then select a restore point. That specific file would restore to that specific point in time, and my file would be back. It was super easy, they through that all out the window for Windows 8.

I had to get my settings back to the way I like them again in GZDoom, and getting the IWADs again was easy. The annoying part is the wads, I didn't have many to begin with, but it's annoying having to go and download them over again.

>>1939992
Well the novels may be shit, but they're nearly accurate with the game. It actually makes sense.

>>1939994
that sounds incredibly useful, i wonder why they removed it

>>1939997
They didn't really remove it, they just made it crap. Windows 9 is supposedly going to undo a lot of the shit in Win8, so I'll have to get that if it ends up being good.

>>1939995
the first one quite architecturally accurate*, not sure about the rest...

____
* only architecturally, though. iirc it insists barons and cacodemons fight each other on sight, and relies on that as a plot point.

>>1939995
>but they're nearly accurate with the game

What.
Uh.
No, they're not.

i remember a whole scene was set here, the faces and the placement of the demon

>>1940001
First you think it's hell monsters breaking loose, then, you realise it's an elaborate plan to take down Earth. There is a reason why Spider Mastermind is the last boss and not Cyberdemon.

>>1940004
>There is a reason why Spider Mastermind is the last boss and not Cyberdemon.
they switched the episode order some point between the press release beta and v1.0

>>1939995
The novels start out relatively in line with the games and somewhat believable, but throw all that shit out the window go full retard after the second one with all kinds of benevolent alien species and time travel into the future.

I don't really think the games were made the way they were with anything like those stories in mind, though. What you saw in the instruction books and intermission screens was pretty much all there was. It was an excuse plot, they said themselves that super indepth storylines weren't important to them. The main character wasn't some Flynn guy, it was "you".

That said, I guess it means you can make up whatever shit you want since hardly anything is explicitly explained, so go nuts, I guess.

>>1940015
No, they didn't. We don't have any idea what the map order for the press release beta was because it only has three levels playable.

Flamethrower in Doom. Yay or nay?

>>1940040
In a custom mapset where it would work? Sure, why not.

In the default maps alongside the originals? If you can balance it, sure, why not.

Replacing an existing weapon? I dunno.

I mean, it works with the aesthetic. The flamethrower in Alien was a big deal and even bigger in Aliens, one of the chief Doom inspirations. So there's that.

I wish someone would make a little aesthetic mod that edits the HUD mugshots so that Doomguy has a beard and mustache.

>>1940059
Why? That seems like an odd thing to add.

>>1940059
DoomRL Arsenal has a class with a beard.

>>1938871
I can't blame gearbox here, they couldn't change the design they just made what they're asked to.

>>1938237
>He'll still have a problem with strafe left and right being bound to "," and "." respectievly, having arrows for movement and spacebar for use. Strafe on button is alt in this case so it won't help much, also it makes your mouse movement count as a strafe to whatever side you're waving it.
He could have his keys rebinded.

>SYSTEM: : INIT RETURNED ERROR CODE 77
> SOUND INIT FAILED. USING NOSOUND

Send help

>>1940161
NO FUCK YOU IM NOT HELPING A SKELETON

>>1940165
rip

>>1940165

As a skeleton I am personally offended by this mockery. Not only do we BUST our bony asses to support you silly whelps, we have to hold all of your precious organs in place so you don't fucking die. Do we get thanks? ABSOLUTELY FUCKING NOT.

All we get is le 2spooky faggotry, and frankly, I've had enough of this devious trickery. The least you meatbags can do is reflect on the good times your inner skeleton has given and perhaps ritually set up candles to say thanks to the Skellington overlord every night, a simple "thank you" a day goes a long way.

Did you perhaps consider that skeletons are proactively trying to attack humans on purpose because of the hate crimes against us? Didn't think so, humanfags.

Any further abuse that the skeleton master-race have to undergo will not be acceptable in any stretch of imagination. Just remember, there is a skeleton inside you right now, it is waiting to come out, it sits there keeping you alive, it's inside everyone. We are all skeletons and humans are the problem.

Thank you for your attention.

>>1940168

spooped!!!!!!!!!!!!

>>1940116
>He could have his keys rebinded.
And then there's this asshole.

>>1938182
>Fuck it I'm gonna try beating Doom on UV using default controls.
> default controls
> by literal definition not rebinding keys

>>1939995
>Well the novels may be shit,
Now listen here, nigger...

>but they're nearly accurate with the game. It actually makes sense.
What? No, the books aren't particularly accurate to the games at all, at least not after the first book, and even then shit was shaky.

>>1940168
nice copypasta

>>1940161
tried using a prerelease?

Which E2 map do you think best conveys the idea of a base being gradually turned into hell?

>>1940175

>tfw originally created this copypasta post for skeleton awareness
>tfw humanfags never learn
>tfw it's not working

Yes, yes I am mad.

>>1940183
Probably E2M4

>>1940040

Fucking YAY, bro

>>1939754
Go look up toaplan games, they are absolutely wonderful.

>>1940161
p-pls respond

>>1940181
no, but I haven't touched GZdoom for a month it just stopped working

>>1940254
What OS are you using? Do you have the fmodex.dll? Did you revert that file somehow and did you try getting a new one from a new build of ZD/GZD?

>>1939948
I do not feel that Serious Sam is about luck.

I think it's based entirely around enemy prioritization. And that's a good thing.
I feel the fights drag on though so that makes it feel like a chore.

>>1939940
I played all of these games about as much as I played Doom.
All the games you listed are great by the way.

>>1940168
What about defective skeletons?
I'd like to lodge a complaint about how my spine started curving so much it needed metal rods to fuse and straighten it out.

>>1940256
Win7, yeah, for sure not, I downloaded the most recent and put it's fmodex into my GZ directory

>>1940265

In my expert skeleton opinion, you either have a second-hand skeleton or you did something spiteful to it which caused it to become rebellious and weak.

That or your inner skelly was desperately trying to escape from your lower back...

what does error code 77 actually mean
find that out first

>>1940283
Since it runs in my family, do you consider it second-hand?
Would I make a shitty revenant?

>>1937315
>have shitty 1.8 ghz laptop
>can't even run blood well with dosbox

why god

why

>>1940324
Dosbox hates blood for some reason. It tends to freeze for an extremely short period of time for me. Wish Atari would stop fucking latching onto the source code like assholes, so that someone could make some sort of remake, like Duke 3d Megaton edition or Shadow Warrior Classic Redux.

>>1940328
Like that'll ever happen.

A shame, too, because blood is one of the best retro FPS out there, I believe.

Microsoft could've bought Blood's source with that money they spend on Mojang

>>1940329
I want to believe.

>>1940331
They could have probably bought it for, like, twenty dollars.

I also wish the M&M threads went faster because holy shit I want to post some wizardry 7.

>>1940323
Given the metal rods in it, I'd say you're already becoming one.

>>1940335
>They could have probably bought it for, like, twenty dollars.
nah Blood franchise is worth a shiton of money for no good reason, Devolver was considering buying it

>>1940347
wut.

Why would atari do that? There's no nostalgia behind it like with DOOM or Quake or even redneck rampage!

Not to mention the second game failed harder than 17 year old me trying to bed my girlfriend on prom night.

>>1940324
It *might* run better on DOSEMU, but it's Linux only. DOSEMU doesn't emulate every little hardware quirk and thing like DOSBOX does, so it runs better.

>>1940349
Because Atari and Warner Bros are corporate asshats who aren't even remotely relevant in the games world anymore.

>>1940342
Maybe. But I'm asking whether or not I'd be a shitty revenant. I mean, a curvy spine can't be good for skeleton soldiers.

>>1940349
Blood is underrated. Blood 2 wasn't as good, but Blood 1 is great.

>>1940359
You could be a hunched over skeleton mage, my friend.

>>1940354
It's funny how even people like activision would probably sell the rights to the game, but not even these assholes will.

Well, at least we don't have it as bad as the legacy of kain guys

>>1939769
Not that guy but Quake 1 bored me too. Like, it's nice to be able to jump and have floors over floors and the aesthetic is nice, but the guns feel pretty bad and the enemies don't die as quickly, also I didn't like the music as much. Sure, one SSG blast mowing a horde of zombiemen in Doom doesn't make sense but it feels great and it adds to gameplay.
>>1940172
Fug. I dunno why but I thought he said keyboard controls. Sorry.

>>1940369
Same here. But my main problem is the mouselook mechanics and graphics. Having to hold right-click to look anywhere and the rather ugly pixelation makes it hard to tell where anything is sometimes.
Funny enough my little brother absolutely LOVES Quake.
The nailgun is also pretty rad. NiN references make me happy.

>>1940373
Do +mlook in the console mate, then you can freely look around, no right click needed. As for the pixellation, filters I guess. I don't like either much. Sourceports add things like anisotropic filtering and other shit, which is cool.
And yeah nailgun is rad. I think the super one's sound is my favourite gun sound in quake.

>>1940381
I bought the game on steam, though. Would +mlook still work?

>have dual monitors
>want to play Zandronum in 640x400 mode with no mouselook, crouch and jumping
>start zandronum
>all other windows are instantly moved to the other display
>exit zandronum
>the other windows wont go back
What the fuck is this?
Fuck Windows. I hate dualboots, should have sticked to Loonix

>>1940387
Sure.
BTW if you buy the game on steam it doesn't come with the music.

>>1940391
Yeah. I heard about that after the fact. Why is that?

>>1940390
I know. Dual monitors on Windows is complete shit. Sometimes I'll have another Firefox open on the other while I play something, and it will go completely black and prevent me from multitasking.

>>1940040
>nevabeendunbefo
There's a flamethrower in Ultimate Torment and Torture. It's prettycool/10.

So: UT99/2k4 or Quake 3 Arena/Quake live?
>>1940395
No idea. You can get the files online and use a sourceport to play with music tho.

Disgusting cancerous doom babies.

>>1940404

2k4 with skins and maps out of the ass. sucks that there's no Quake 3 models, seems like they're still living the feud.

>>1940059

Accessories to Murder has that.
It's terrible.

>>1940410
Well I mean everyone just forcemodels in quake 3.

>>1940404
Quake 3 mostly. I play UT for the teamplay when I can, but Quake 3 will always be the best classic fragfest.

>>1940404
They're very different.
UT is slower and in 2k4 has vehicles and other craziness. UT99 is a lot slower and, I think, easier to get into, less of a skill ceiling.

Q3 is much faster and more hectic. The maps are smaller and it is more focused on straight deathmatch, while UT is more team-oriented and everyone acts as a whole, kind of.

I prefer UT, but Q3 is good. Don't play Quake Live. They ruined it by trying to appeal to the COD audience (not really, but you get the picture), and changing the core game.

>>1940413

What bugs me the fuck out is that it's not even shaded properly, like, they just opened up MSPaint, fucked around with the pencil and called it a day

But noooo, it's so kewl bcuz it's also part of the Upgraded Doom experience fad

>>1940405
Duke, why do you continue to do this?
Just give up, it ain't worth the effort.

>>1940417
>I prefer UT, but Q3 is good. Don't play Quake Live. They ruined it by trying to appeal to the COD audience (not really, but you get the picture), and changing the core game.
Explain. You mean the loadouts thing?

>>1940421
I just went ahead and removed those from the .PK3 with Slade, I think the original mug looks better.
I also removed the voxel models, because although they look nice, a lot of them are too big, and they eat memory like crazy.

>>1940414

I mean, Quake 3 models for UT2K4
There's UT99 models, and even UT3 models (so you don't exactly need to get either the prev. or the sequel, you have da best of both worlds), but no-one, on the 10 years it has been going, has ported the Quake 3 player models

Only a few maps, but that's it

>>1940423
I think you misspelled DKG

>>1940428
Weird. And yeah, saw the maps. Aerowalk in UT feels a lot different.
On an unrelated note someone recently ported UT99 weapon models and shit to UT2k4.
>>1940404
Forgot about Quake 3 CPMA, seems like some people love it.

>>1940430
Nah
>>1938842

>>1940425
Yeah. The loadouts, now you can hold jump to bunnyhop, there's universal ammo instead of individual weapon ammo types, etc..

There's a changelog you can find to see all of the changes. You can still play the original version of it, but only if you get a "premium" account and pay monthly.

>>1938842
>>1940423

stop forcing it, it's not gonna fly. we love douk

>>1940437
I think it's pretty cool. FFA feels less unfair and frustrating with the loadouts, though a bit more chaotic, and some miss scrambling to get any weapon (though you still gotta get ammo). I mostly don't, honestly. The bunnyhop didn't affect me, I keep using strafejump. Timers are alright I think. Clears up how the mechanic works and it's nice to know when things will spawn amidst the chaos of not knowing how good everyone's timing is. Also everyone grouping up to fight over a major item is fun. Heavy machine gun is alright I think. Easy to use but superseded by other guns when you get good enough. Still great to finish off people though. Didn't feel the LG nerf. I like the damage numbers, dunno why. Specially with the LG, they "feel" great. Same with the "ding" when you kill people that got added a while ago. The new announcer, ambivalent about him. Some of his lines I kind of like but others are pretty bad. Maybe I'll have to get used to it, but still. Not great. I love that Duel is mostly unchanged. My friends gave the game a try after getting destroyed a while ago and we had lots of fun.

TL;DR of my totally subjective opinions: FFA feels less frustrating, don't use bhop but i think it helps new people, timers make things clearer, hmg is average, don't know about the LG nerf, new announcer pretty much sucks (mostly the inflection of his voice), Duel's the same and I love it, my friends gave the game a new chance and loved it.

>>1940173
Not by complete story, but monsters and their hierarchy is painfully similar to books. It's an undeniable fact that Doom and Doom 2 is not about an hell invasion, it's about hostile alien species with their genetically modified clones.

>>1940438
dook a shit though, you not speak for me