/vr/ - Retro Games

Map screen.

Battle screen.

The ugly-ass, but very usable touch-controlled shop screen.

Well, what do you think?

It's shit.

''it's just 3 bux'' is what everyone thinks, soon they'll profit from this and they'll keep churning out cheap android games. Should have pirated the damn thing.

>720x1280
I still have trouble getting used to widescreen, now they come up with this shit

>>1933071
It's phone cancer. Please stop telling Squeenix you want more of it.

>>1933084
There's absolutely nothing wrong with turnbased games on cellphones, you nut.

>>1933087
Except I have both dq8 and dq4 on my tablet. The touch movement is finicky as fuck.also, are you certain its a new translation?

>>1933090
DQ8 character has free movement, of course it fucking is finicky, but DQ4 is on a grid and works fine. Maybe your tablet is shit, or maybe the ports are. I haven't tried DQ4 or DQ8, but retro JRPGs control just fine under Retroarch on my Xperia tablet.

That filter or whatever that is looks terrible. What happened to quality control?

Also, isn't that the original translation from the NES version?

>>1933087
>There's absolutely nothing wrong with turnbased games on cellphones, you nut.
Yes there is, you shit eater. Phone gaming is an abomination that takes funds and resources away from dedicated gaming and is a cancer that needs to be eradicated.

>>1933096
Retro arch as least has preset control pads to use as layovers.

The we ports use this compas pad where the inputs are too narrow. The action button in dq4 is also dead center so there's a lot of times you get stuck talking to the same char over and over.

Another small issue is with the ui. If you're the type to use tactics menu, when you exit from it it will sometimes flee as well because the back button is the same space as flee.

>>1933060
Holy shit the first tablet game that i am actually interested in purchasing full price. A lot of the action games do not work with touch screen controls so i pirate every game and end up hating the game-play mechanics. I believe that RPGs and puzzle games will be really successful on tablets. I want SEGA to release Puyo Puyo touch in America.

>>1933105
Miyamoto please go.

>>1933087
>Shit controls
>Can't keep saves
>Shit Battery
>Shit internet
>Shit screensize

go fuck yourself

>>1933060
>>1933063
>>1933067
>>1933069
>>1933071
Man the sprites look completely fucked, but I don't know if that's your phone or what. also this isn't the snes version of dq1. For reference, here's snes dq1 and snes dq3.

>>1933131
Also to add more to this, what the hell did the iphone version do to the translation?

like even the nes version of dw1 isn't as bad as >>1933071

>>1933119

>shit battery

The fuck are you on? My old ass tablet will run for four hours fully charged. How often do you need to play video games for more than four hours before gaining access to a charger?

NES Dragon Warrior and Final Fantasy were some of my first RPGs, so I'm kind of attached to the old 8-bit art style, and the various remakes don't do anything for me. I think the GBC version is only decent one except for the original.

But if you're having fun with this version, more power to you. Me, I'd be installing some emulator and roms on there...

>>1933075
this. you cell phone gamers are the worst kind of cancer

>>1933185
Can you even explain what's wrong with playing turn-based games on modern cellphones?

>>1933119
>>Shit controls
Fine for turn-based games.
>>Can't keep saves
What?
>>Shit Battery
Still better than 3DS, Vita or PSP, let alone any fucking GameBoy.
>>Shit internet
W...what?
>>Shit screensize
Modern cellphones have better screens than all current dedicated handhelds and output at higher resolutions than most modern home console games, let alone earlier ones.

You're a fucking shitposter is what you are.

lol@ anyone who thinks that other people, let alone large companies give a shit about their overdramatic moral aversion to playing games on their phone

>>1933145

>4 hours
>good battery life

Are you a mongoloid or born in the 00's?

>>1933084
>>1933105
>>1933185

I think you need to calm down and rationalize your argument - "it's caaaaaancerrrrrrrr!!!" works on /v/ but not here.

>>1933060
>English of Olde hath been used within this version of the festivity of the Quest of the Dragon that hath been held within the Androide grounds akin to the version within lands that spake the tongue of English in NES grounds
>Erdrick instead of Loto
I ask of thee, o /vr/, for what purpose?

>>1933281
Try reading.

>>1933282
Nes version wasn't that bad with the old english, especially compared to this new translation.

Seems that they exaggerated it hard, akin to dq4 ds.

So, what's worse?
Ye olde engrish or retarded accents?

>>1933336
OP here.

Both are equally awful. But in this DQ port it was kinda funny for abit. Can't tell, because I've already refunded. The whole point was to see if Google refunds work; which they do.

The game's ok, but the filter's started to be a tad grating after a bit. I can make the thing look so much better with RetroArch anyway.

When they release DQ73DS, now that thing I'll buy.

>>1933290
I read your posts and there's no actual argument besides how it somehow detracts from "dedicated gaming" in some vague and unspecified way, and then given the chance to actually explain what you're talking about, you make a glib but completely worthless "quip."

Interested in backing up your claim yet or will you kindly shut up and let people talk about the game already?

>spend no more than $5 on an emulator for Android*, now you can play any NES game for free via roms
>go instead to individually purchase a questionable port

I fell into the same trap though with FF2.

*I tried Retroarch for a few consoles, but there was always an issue, perhaps since I'm using an older tablet (Nook Color with CM7). I prefer to play emulators with the tablet in portrait orientation, with the game screen on top half and vidya keypad in the bottom half. But on Retroarch, every single keypad configuration native to Retroarch I have tried seems to be configured for landscape mode, and playing it in portrait mode the controls are vertically stretched, rendering the games virtually unplayable. If I am missing something, then please enlighten me. I can't be taxed to create a custom keypad config, and I spent a while googling for better configs with no success.

>>1933282
>>1933323
I thought the hammy prose style is part of the charm of DQ, as opposed to Final Fantasy games with text normally in a modern idiom. I'm not sure why anybody' who doesn't like the dialogue style would even bother playing it.

>>1933357
>spend no more than $5 on an emulator for Android*
Are you retarded? RetroArch is free.

>>1933363
>copies the asterisk but is too stupid to read the footnote it references
>calls others retarded

The font and UI look really cheap and nasty.

I'm not sure why they went with that font, there are like a million better fonts out there that are free.

Also, is there a landscape mode?

>>1933374
I read the rest of your post later. It's stupid. Use your brain, overlays are configurable.

Guess tupid people were the designated target audiences for paid emulators, though, so everything's as it should be.

>>1933389
>Also, is there a landscape mode?
OP here.

Nope. But it works like that better, playable with one hand and all. The screen is still wider than it was in any previous version.

I mean, I returned the game for a refund because it's pointless, but the screen format definitely isn't a problem. It actually worked great.

>>1933361
Thou meant Ultima.

>>1933087
>There's absolutely nothing wrong with turnbased games on cellphones, you nut.

shut up you filthy cancer

>>1933060
why not just emulate the superior sfc version. It's translated.

>>1933342
>When they release DQ73DS
:(
>IF they release DQ73DS

>>1933473
op is a mobile hipster, and hipsters gonna hipster

>>1933510
Your mother is a mobile hipster, I just use my devices for all they're worth without descending into childish fanboyism and sidetaking.

>>1933060
>It's just 3 bux.

r u 15?

>>1933602
Wretch! I'll see to it that you descend into hell instead! *plays demonic biwa to summon forth jigoku no tsurugi* I'll tear you asunder... I'll slaughter you... Eviscerate you... Nothing shall remain of you!!! *launches you into the air with ryuenjin and finishes you off with yami no tatsumaki* Heh heh heh heh... another soul for the abyss...

>>1933689
I take my words back, and sorry for arguing. You're pretty good at this.

>>1933196
>Fine for turn-based games.
Not when you're trying to walk anywhere. If you've got a phone without a keyboard try playing Symphony of Eternity and trying to get anywhere you want or avoid monster encounters without a keyboard

>>>Can't keep saves
>What?

If you want to transfer phones like less than 5% of games have cloud storage to transfer your save. VITA has memory cards, 3DS has system transfer. Phones have jack shit if the game doesn't let you save to the microSD

>Still better than 3DS, Vita or PSP, let alone any fucking GameBoy.

WTF are you fucking smoking? 3DS battery life is easily double a phone's battery life. I've got little experience with VITA but I'd shit myself if Sony put out a $250 device that had a battery life of less than four hours.

>>Shit internet
>W...what?

What's that? You wanted to play that full-fledged game you bought this hour? Good fucking luck waiting for that shit to download

>Modern cellphones have better screens than all current dedicated handhelds and output at higher resolutions than most modern home console games, let alone earlier ones.

It wouldn't be a problem if your thumbs didn't block the entire screen because of touch controls when you're trying to accomplish anything

No anon I think you are the goddamn shitposter

>>1933323

How was it in the GBC remake?

>>1933801
I don't remember hearing much Middle English in my copy, but that was a long time ago.

>>1933801
gbc was plain, same as dq1 snes fan translation

>>1933063

I've been playing Dragon Quest 2, which is a sequel that takes place 100 years after the original in the same world. I was astounded when I found the original region from the first game and that it was actually just a small part of a much larger world. When I played Dragon Quest 1, I was under the impression that that was the entire world.

What I found really depressing in DQ2 though was that none of the towns from Dragon Quest 1 were left standing after only 100 years. The only thriving castle that still remains is the original one that you started at in the beginning of DQ1.

>>1933891
You'll love dq3

>>1933119
>Shit controls
I hate touchscreens for most games, but they're usable enough for RPGs.

>Can't keep saves
You can easily browse the internal filesystem of most Android phones, but the same can't be said for iOS or Windows phone. Even so, I don't think it's that hard to use cloud services to backup savegames on these devices.

>Shit battery
All modern devices have shit battery life. My 3DS XL is better than average in this regard though.

>Shit internet
The 3DS browser is a fucking toy compared to what's on my phone, but my phone's browser is a fucking toy compared to my PC.

>Shit screensize
They would be better if they didn't use fucking softbuttons for everything.

>>1933063
>map
>dq1
Fucking pleb version of the game, man. Refund and never look back.

Oh well, better that version than the terrible NES Dragon Warrior.

>>1933060
>3 bux
It wasn't fifteen? Color me surprised.

>>1933221
hello

>>1933473
not OP, but I did emulate it on my xperia play.

Pixel art sprites and android don't really play together well unless the devs really know what they're doing.

I so fucking hate SE refusal to release Dragon Quest that's not a mobile because they don't sell millions upon millions. But even worse is when they did release it here they seem to also refuse to do any marketing towards it which hurt it even more.

Hell it took Square Enix 24 hours to even tell people DQ1 was on iOS. Well I guess we should be happy they actually spelt the game right this time.

>>1934218
Who cares? Emulate the original, it's the best version anyways.

>>1933290
You need to learn how to make a fucking good argument.

>>1933343
It isn't so much the games themselves as Square's fault. RPGs on a mobile device are actually a grand idea in theory: the ability to pick them up, put them down, and come back later suddenly makes huge four-disc console RPGs fun and completely doable to someone with a lot going on in their life.

Then comes in Square and it all goes to hell. Between cheapass ports, vain attempts to mask it, and (even three bucks still applies in a mobile market) high price points for all these faults, they just make a good idea fall apart completely.

>>1934223
I care because it shows how much SE cares about Dragon Quest in the west. They never ever tried to even get it off the ground. They just brought the game over and didn't try to market it. And when they saw it wasn't doing well they pack their bags and went home. And when Nintendo showed them how to actually sell a game TWICE with DQ9 and BD they just shrugged and kept saying "we don't want to put any effort in selling it we just want people to buy it in the millions"

>>1934228
>four-disc RPGs
Hey that reminds me of hilarity
>Squeenix says no FFVII due to space limitations
>But we've been playing the ISOs themselves for years
>Suddenly, DQVIII comes out

>>1934263
Squeenix in general seem to be sticks in the mud that won't budge very far to make anything better. On that note, to me Square died after the merger as they seemed to start "playing things safe" after that.

>>1934263
DQ is already a dead series, bro. What you're doing is like complaining that Tolkien isn't writing new sequels to LotR.

>>1934305
>dead series
>two releases for 2015

Sure, it's dead, I guess it just hasn't stopped moving yet or something, right?

>>1933060

Why does every single phone game have the same hideous font? It clashes extremely much with the pixel graphics. It keeps showing up in PC games too, since assholes like to just port phone games.

It's fucking terrible. Why do they keep using it?

>>1934356
Because most smartphone games use the default phone font.
You can change the font if you want.

>>1934356
Because they don't need to pay people to change it.

>>1934350
They keep making new Star Wars shit, too. Star Wars died after the first 3 movies, though.

>>1934305
All the same people are there. If you are bashing it because it turned into a MMO Horii always loved the Ultima series and so when that became a MMO he wanted to go that route.

I never thought the series has died it's just dead in the west because SE feel that anything below 10 million is a failure.

So they remade the first game to look like DQ III on snes.
I like it, i would like to replay it on my pc though.

>>1933067
Looks like a flash game

>>1935109
It would be neat if someone inspired by this hacked DQ 1&2 SNES to look like 3.

>We're already not getting DQX and the condition of VII's 3DS remake here seems dim.

Why not just release Dragon Warrior VII on the one Sony store or whatever like they did with the PS1 Final Fantasies? They could do that to test the waters for doing the remake and either way we still get the game out again.

>people buy ios and android remakes that square pushes out
>then people wonder why they only make ios and android games and never localize new games

>>1935254
You know what, that might still happen.
Until a couple years ago, Nintendo held the DQ rights so releasing any DQ-related title on Sony(or any other) platforms was not possible, but with the announcement of Dragon Quest Musou for the PS4...

>>1933060
>that fucking scaling
holy shit I'm dying

>>1934157
man i LOVE the NES versions. I want them to backport all the newer games to NES engine, and keep the separate stairs/talk/etc command and everything else exactly like in the original. Hell yeah even make ncurses roguelike version. That would kick much ass@!

>>1935410
They should port it to the Apple II with keyboard shortcuts for all those commands.

>>1933361
Because the text in the other Dragon Quest was at least something that I could understand.

Only with the remakes have they included text that looks like "absuidbadsifiudsfnhdsks." Am I exaggerating? Yes, but at least I'm not the idiot that's

>HURRR CELL PHOENS ARE LE CANCER SAGE SAGE SAGE SAGE

Without giving a reason why DQ1 on phones is bad.

>>1935254
Because Square loves to sit on everything that isn't FF.

>>1933185
bait but i'll take it. phones are the future of gaming and there's no reason for them not too. check out the latest monster hunter for iOS. What's wrong with having out handheld game console also function as a phone?

also cellphone gaming will eventually force ninty to third party so we won't be locked into their shitty hardware

>>1936076
>implying

>>1933510
>mobile hipster, hipster, hipster

be more of a complete faggot.

>>1936046

Oh, you're the in the other thread that has just been abuse "I CAN'T READ D:"
Come on, the text in the DS remakes is passable, you can understand it. Anyone in and out of highschool can understand it.

>>1936103
>phones are the future of gaming

I sure as fucking hell hope not. That's a horrible thing to say, and I highly doubt it will ever come to pass.

>>1933060
Dragon Quest port is actually bretty guud.

>>1936645
Uh, anon? It already happened. Mobile gaming already brings in more revenue than handheld gaming, and is set to surpass console gaming within two years, and may already have surpassed PC gaming.

http://www.gartner.com/newsroom/id/2614915

>>1935292

>Dragon Quest on Sony consoles

No thank you. No dudebro consoles please.

>>1935297
The edges of the tiles... I just can't...

>>1936770
> referring to Sony consoles as "dudebro"

7/10 I got mad

>>1936770
>Being picky over consoles because of dudebro image.
That's pretty retarded.

>>1936770
>calling sony the dudebro console when xbox exists

Have you seen ANY gaming coverage from this century?

>>1936770
Well this is going in my 'dumb shit I've seen on /vr/' folder.

>>1936467
Dude, it's annoying as shit.

>>1933105
There are a lot of good mobile games out there.

But who cares about good games, I prefer to rage in the internetz.

Right?

>>1934538
Bad comparison.

The earlier DQ games sucked. DQ is a better franchise now.

>>1934276
> On that note, to me Square died after the merger as they seemed to start "playing things safe" after that.
With the exception of the first FF game, Square always played safe.

Look at Chrono Trigger. The art was made by Akira Toriyama.

Goddammit, I went ahead and bought DQ for android, and apparently the 500mb of space left on my SD card isn't enough for this fucking game. WHAT. THE. HELL.

Holy shit, that looks quite terrible.

Rather grab some NES/GB emulator and play with that. Sure touch controls are shit but hey, it's dragon quest, not fucking ninja gaiden.

>>1937229
Eh, depends on what you mean by better. I have a lot of fun with IX, but I don't find it to be a better experience than V. Nor does VIII, I feel that game had more praise just because it was released in europe, and by square-enix. Plus it had good graphics to boot and amazing music (western releases). However I feel that the game drags on for long enough (it's not VII but still feels slow paced).

With me and mobile I don't think it's the future of gaming. I say that for one reason only. Quality control. The 1983 crash happened because there was no quality control and so the market was flooded with cheap near unplayable shit. But it's worse now since now anyone with access to a computer and make one when back before the crash you needed the resource to make it. So right now the mobile market is just flooded with "free" games or .99 games. Hardly anyone is actually paying over $5 for the games I'm guessing. And both Google and Apple don't care about the gaming market so they are fine without using resource to actually do some quality control.

>>1937285
You didn't need many resources to make a game on an Apple II, Atari 400 or C64. They had no sort of quality control and they did fine for the rest of the decade.