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1917423 No.1917423 [Reply] [Original]

What's the best portable emulator thing? The GCW zero? The a380? Random Chinese tablets with d-pads?

>> No.1917446

>>1917423
A notebook running Windows.

>> No.1917458

>>1917423
i am looking also for something decent under $50

will a 7 inch chink tablet do?

they have a 1.5 ghz cpu and apparently one even has an integrated opengl accelerator, tough idk if it would help emulation at all

the plan is to use a clip+gamepad with it

>> No.1917465

Do yourself a kindness and get the GCW. Better to pay a little bit more and get something that is solid.

>> No.1917467

>>1917423
nvidia shield

>> No.1917470

>>1917446
>A notebook running GNU/Linux.
There we go.

>> No.1917614

>>1917470
There are a variety of closed source emulators not available for GNU/Linux.

>> No.1917761

>>1917423
My JXD S5800 (the one that's also a phone) arrived just yesterday. I'm going to install some stuff, fill it with ROMS, and hopefully tomorrow I will give you a good review on the device plus some videos.

Some things I can tell you for now

PROS:

>The build quality is very good, it doesn't feel chink at all.
>The screen is big and bright, with good viewing angles
>The buttons are quite confortable. The 4 triggers are confortable to press. The D-Pad, although nothing special, is nice enough
>The analog sticks are very good. They feel nice and play nice. I played a bit of Super Mario 64 and I had no problems whatsoever.

CONS

>It's FUCKING HUGE. It probably won't fit in my pocket.
>I can't seem to make the controller work on Retroarch or OpenBOR

See ya tomorrow

>>1917470
Exactly. But I kinda want to play Super Mario X with a controller.

>> No.1917790

dingoo a320, nuff said

>> No.1917812

>>1917423
this thread has nothing to do with retro games


>>>>>>/vg/79276353

>> No.1917835

>>1917812
It has everything to do with PLAYING retro games! :^)

Anyways, I have the Shield Portable and it might be a little overkill, but I can play Dreamcast and Playstation games lag-free.. I also have NES, SNES, MD, GB/C/A, DS, and ScummVM on it. I've seen Dosbox in the store, but I'm not 100% sure how well it works.. Also playing San Andreas on this thing is fucking incredible.

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>>1917761
I wanted a phone and with controls too but thats just too big. I got the "Much G2" its very nice looks like a normal phone but doesnt have a d-pad only psp-eque joystick. Which is very good for N64 games but some 2d sidescroller games it just feels weird

>> No.1917845

>>1917812
>First quarter of the thread is solid shitposting

Nice try, lad.

>> No.1917946

>>1917423
jxd

>> No.1917963

>>1917841
How is it performance wise, though?

Does it play heavyweight 64 games like Conker?

>> No.1917971

>>1917467
>>1917835
I second the shield. I just got one about a week ago and it just does everything flawlessly. You can't fit it in your pocket, however.

>> No.1917997 [DELETED] 

>>1917423
RETRON 5 NOW WITH IPS SUPPORT!
So, like me, there will be a slew of new people coming here because Hyperkin's RetroN 5 system is now allowing IPS patches.
To my knowledge, this is the place to go to for finding translation IPS files.

May I suggest a new board dedicated to people with the system looking to request fixes for IPS patches (for RetroN 5 compatibility--if there should be an issue with one already)?
And a place for people (like me) to request that translations be done (even of games that aren't Japanese-exclusive)
example: I have Slapstick for Super Famicom (that's the Japanese Robotrek), but not the English Robotrek, so I'm out of luck unless I spend the money for the English cart or find a translation patch. Now, this game is in English if you have Robotrek, would it be possible for someone here to take the english from that game and make a patch for the Japanese game to like... swap the text? you know what I mean? I'm sure it's more complicated than that, and might even require an entire re-translation -- or maybe it doesn't. I don't know.
But what I'm saying is, like me, there are many others with large Japanese video game collections with RetroN 5s wanting translations, and there are a lot that aren't already on this website.
Many props and thanks so far, I was able to find many here, but there are also many I would like to request.
Plus I already had an issue with the Final Fantasy 5 patch here not working with RetroN 5 and someone already nicely made a fixed file that did work for me.

good idea? not yet? suggestions of where to post my RetroN5-related requests if not a new board? I already found the request wiki on here and added 2 things to it so far. Do translators check that often? Do I even need an actual translator to help with making Japanese games that already have english releases English?
Thanks, Hyperkin's facebook page isn't well organized and I would like to move onto here for questions about IPS patching.

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>>1917997

>> No.1918014

>>1918003
Want to talk about it?
I have a RetroN 5 and a lot of Japanese video games.
Video game collection -- http://backloggery.com/Kulp

>> No.1918156

I use a logitech precision gamepad with a note 8.0.

It's so fucking impractical I swear to god. I wish I was good at modding.

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>>1917423
I have the JXD S7300. It gets the job done for most retro and even some modern games. I say "most" because N64 and Dreamcast could still use a bit of work, but it's more of a software problem than hardware. If you want a smaller version go for the S5110b, or the GPD G58.

>> No.1918191

>>1917423
Still the PSP, I think.

>> No.1918203

>>1918167
I have one of these as well.
The fact that the left analog nub and the d-pad correspond to the same inputs on a hardware level was a really stupid fuck up on the designers' part. And something I wish was advertised more openly.

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>>1917423
This is the first I've heard of the GCW Zero, but looking into it, apparently it can run PS1 and PC games?

How well do PS1 games run on it? Playing Air Combat and such would be cool, and what about PC? Can I play muh Touhous on it? That'd be pretty cool.

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>>1918220
I've got a GCW-Zero and like it alot. The PS1 emulator is still in development. If that's a deal breaker then stick with/pickup a PSP. It's a handheld Linux PC in the form of a handheld. So it's got plenty of ported emulators including DOS, Amiga, Atari ST, MSX and other retro PC systems. Also 4th gen consoles and below as well as arcade emulation on MAME for systems like CPS-2 and Neo-geo. Then there's ported commercial open software like Doom, Quake, Duke3D, RoTT, Decent. As well as some systems for indie games like EasyRPG for RPG Maker, Love2D, Pygame, OpenBor, HTML5, Solarus. And ported freeware like Sqrxz 1-4, Cave Story, Streets of Rage Remake, Abbaye des Morts, and Powder. So yeah there's a lot of fucking games in this thing but as of yet no Touhou.

>> No.1918284

>>1917423
Surface Pro 3 with a DualShock 4.

>> No.1918293

>>1918014
holy fuck, you look like such a hipster faggot. enjoy you bent pins

>> No.1918317

>>1918258
who would play tohoe on such a tiny screen?, half the time i die because i don't see a bullet on a 24" monitor

>> No.1918428

>>1918014
that gif ruined my entire day.

>> No.1918438

>>1918258
Seems pretty good, maybe I'll order one next time I get a paycheck.

>> No.1918457

>>1918014
you're a faggot but I'd play games with you bro. I want a friend to 1cc games with again

>> No.1918590
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1918590

Plz.

>> No.1918607

>>1918191
The PSP is cheap, reliable, easy to unlock and a 16 GB memory should be more than enough to hold tons of emus and games.

>> No.1918648

>>1918258

Questions:

How's Genesis and SNES emulation?
Any 5th gen emulation?
Is it sturdy? Some of these Chinese portables look delicate as fuck.

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>>1918648
>How's Genesis and SNES emulation?
As close to perfect as I've seen on PC emulation. That low resolution high ppi 4:3 320x240 screen is great for retro.
>Any 5th gen emulation?
Not yet as far as I know. 2 buttons short of proper N64 control. Heard there's PS1 software but not yet running at playable speed.
>Is it sturdy?
I've dropped it a few times and it's fine. It's lighter than you'd expect. Lot's of people, including myself, report that the d-pad needs to be worn in for a couple hours before it's 100%. When brand new the d-pad might squeek or stick. Someone posted a video about how the buttons can shake when held upside down. Then I tested it against every heldheld I own and they all do the same thing. Quality is comparable to commercial grade handhelds.

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1918705

I have a zero, and it's pretty good. The touchscreen is a cool feature, and the buttons are nice and clicky. The size is fine too, and I have big hands. If you can find one for cheap on ebay or something I would def pick it up

>> No.1918708

>>1918705
Whoops, meant to say wiz, not zero

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>>1918708
Was wondering about that. Thought it was some developmental build with a touchscreen. Heard they adapted the touch input on the Zero to add the analog stick

What I'm getting next is an Gamebuino. Does this count as retro?

>> No.1918731

>>1918690

Hey

Hey bro

Where did you get that bomb-ass sticker you're laying your doohickey on? I need one. Or ten.

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>>1918731
back of mine was plain so I was trying out some stickers. ended up going with this one, pictured, had to cut the text off the bottom. reverse image search

>> No.1918751

>>1918738
Nigga like I don't recognize a MacGyver reference.

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>>1918751
redbubble. you earned it

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Another vote for the good ol' PSP.

>> No.1918821

>>1918690

Thanks, man. I think I might have to have one.

>> No.1919275

>>1917458
>integrated opengl accelerator
aka a gpu
they all have those

>> No.1919382

I'm wondering if I can fit the surface pro on gameklip type mount for my emulation needs.

>> No.1919407

>>1917467
3rd, finished two SNES games this year already.

>> No.1919642

I have an ultraportable thinkpad, a laptop.
It's quite old but I use it for some SNES emulation.
I hook up my Wiimote with a classic controller and have tons of fun.
Plus an ~11 something inch 4:3 screen is nice.

>> No.1919873

>>1917835
>>1917971
The shield interests me, but that fugly controller makes the thing unappealing to me. Does the dualshock 3 work well with it?

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>>1918590
>>1918690
>>1918705
I have a Caanoo. Build it's solid. Analog stick is uncannily comfy for retro gaming. Like the handhelds I quoted it's got a 320*240 screen. It's quite GCW tier I think (I don't have one), bigger than the Wiz and the Dingoo. Hardware is almost like the one in the Wiz but with more RAM (and LCD instead of OLED). As far as I know is a bit less powerful than the GCW, but I think it's got more software.

Consoles up to Megadrive (and MegaCD) are emulated flawlessly. Neo Geo as well, it works wonders.
SNES is emulated mostly OK but some games don't work well. Same for GBA.
There is a good Playstation emulator but again it depends on the game, with a lower success rate (still the emu works wonders for what the hardware is and you most probably won't have any issue in 2d games and stuff).
There are also Doom, Duke Nukem, Warcraft 1 (I think). Check in the openhandhelds.org website and gp32x.com forums (they are a bit empty today).

The only thing is that it is not being manufactured anymore so you would have to buy it second hand. But since it was around $140 new and it's old you may find it for around $50 as you said.

I would choose either this or the Zero (if you want new), just make sure you check what's available for each.

Trivia: Caanoo is a sightly more powerful Wiz and uses an ARM11 processor. The Zero is like an evolved Dingoo and uses a MIPS processor. Hence the software differences albeit the Zero being more powerful

>> No.1920072

>>1919943
according to wikipedia it uses an arm9

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>>1918203
At least the d-pad is mapped to the analog and not vice-versa. That would be a real problem. Not sure if it's like that in the newer version, but supposedly the GPD and iPega handhelds don't have this problem

>> No.1920085

>>1920072
You are right. My god I thought it was a bit more modern.

>> No.1920087

>>1920080
That's a bit retarded, isn't there any custom firmware or patch that solves it or is it a hardware thing?

>> No.1920093

>>1920087
totally a hardware thing.

>> No.1920098

>>1920093
Then that's totally retarded

>> No.1920103

>>1920085
Seems a little bit weird that it can handle the neo geo easily and not the snes or gba.

>> No.1920127

>>1920098
I agree. I regret my purchase thoroughly.
Unfortunately, no one who reviewed the thing felt it necessary to mention.

>> No.1920136

>>1920127
are gpds any better?
I like the psp looking one
http://www.gpd.hk/products.asp?selectclassid=017001&id=1283

>> No.1920143

>>1920136
Hell if I know.
Look at the specs and compare.
I doubt more than one company would make such a shit mistake.

>> No.1920216

>>1917963
I don't have it, but in videos it seems to be relatively smooth with some audio popping. retroarch may be able to get around that.

It only has a a quad core a7 at 1.2GHz though.
The 1.6Ghz a9 quad cores in a lot of these would be at least 35-40% faster.

>> No.1920258

>>1920103
I know.
I think the reason is that neo geo hardware albeit powerful was more straightforward (in some aspects similar to the megadrive) while the snes was more complex and some games used hardware hacks and on cartrige chips (neogeo and md games were more "standard"). I think something similar is going on with the GBA.
Super Mario World works fine but I couldn't boot The Secret of Mana. Same with the GBA, Sonic Advance 2 worked faily well (some slowdowns) but with Gonden Sun no cigar.
What bothers me is that I think that the GBA emulator worked better on the GP2X but you can't blame the devs because they do it for free. The thing is that the first GPH console, the GP32 wasn't that powerful and people optimized the shit out of it (It didn't run the GBA anyway). When the GP2X came out the community was still thriving so they got a lot of performance out of it. Then the Wiz came and then the Caanoo which were quite similar but not binary compatible. People had already peaked the GP2X and since the next two came out quite close in time and later the company disappeared devs didn't devote that much, leaving the hardware a bit more under used than the one in their predecessors.

Also I think that the GBA emulator works better on the PSP. The Caanoo is a bit more powerful but aparently the PSP has some DSP that helps with GBA emulation.

PS: GBA is harder to emulate I think they got some neogeo games running on the original GP32.

I may have some facts wrong anyone feel free to correct me if that's the case.

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From now, PSP remains as the best option.

- Cheap even if you buy it new.
- Easy to unlock and upgrade using a memory adaptor and up to 32 GB memory sticks
- Charge time is very short- the original battery can be charged from 0% to 100% in a hour compared with the 3-4 hours that takes to charge an android device
- You will get around 6-8 hours of gameplay using the standard battery, and some emulators like GBKai allow you to reduce the CPU frequency to reduce the battery consumption.
- Confortable shape, fits nicely in your hands and can be carried in your front pocket with ease.
- Durable materials- the buttons will not die on you like usually happens with chinese android handhelds.
- Good battery life- the console only uses energy to run the games instead of having to run an entire OS as happens with android devices.
- Perfect PS and PSP gameplay, as the console was specifically built to run those games to begin.
- Great array of emulators with perfect or nearly perfect emulation like Nes, Master System, Game Gear, Genesis, Game Boy, Game Boy Color, Game Boy Advanced, Mame, Neo-Geo, Atari, etc.
-Snes emulation is acceptable and the emulator still can be improved.

>> No.1920326

>>1920318
Or, if you've got a smart phone like 80% of the civilized population, use that and a controller.

>> No.1920351

>>1920326
What if you need to use your phone for the whole day without charging?

>> No.1920356

What if you have to use your PSP all day without charging?

>> No.1920361

>>1920326
how are you going to hold a phone and a controller?

>> No.1920364

>>1920326
The subject is *portable* emulator things, anon.

Anyway, I'm quite fond of the Vita, myself. Same capabilities as a PSP, but with a god tier d-pad and screen, and the right analog stick is nice for playing jarpigs one-handed.

>> No.1920365

>>1920356

It'll easily last. Does for me.

>> No.1920373

>>1920326
> Carrying your phone AND a controller around
> Having to prop the phone against something so you could hold the controller
> Making the gaming experience more complicated
> Calls himself civilized.

>>1920356
That applies the same for every other gaming option posted ITT, dude.

You could buy a more robust PSP battery and your average 6 hours of gameplay now are increased to 12-18 hours depending of the model.

All of that and still not needing to lug any extra stuff around.

>> No.1920380

>>1920373
I'd say carrying a psp around would be considered lugging extra stuff around.

>> No.1920410

>>1920380
I'd say that carrying a PSP is less retarded than carrying a bluetooth controller to hook to your smartphone.

>> No.1920424

>>1920410
Why? You're carrying the same amount of things you normally would, and one of them isn't as large as a psp.

>> No.1920429

>>1920424
You just hold the psp and play right away.

Unlss you are a freak of nature, you still will need to put your phone someplace so you could use both hands to hold the controller.

>> No.1920434

>>1920429
You're sacrificing decent emulation for the 5 seconds it would take to prop yo your phone.

>> No.1920441

>>1920318
>smartphones
>emulating psx and psp well

poor man's bait

>> No.1920452

>>1920434
I can play my PSP while I'm riding the bus to and from my job, bro.

Now would you please have the kindness to explain everyone how you can do the same using your smartphone and bluetooth controller?

We are discussing PORTABLE emulation, you know.

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>>1920326
>>1920356
>>1920380
>>1920424
>>1920434

>> No.1920471

>>1920452
I can pull out my phone and play it on the bus as well. In fact I have.

It's really not that hard.

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>>1920471
You hold the phone with one hand, and hold the controller with the other hand?
How do you press the controller's pad and buttons then? With your dick or with your tongue?

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Psp Go, unless you are too retarded to set it up properly, is a monster for emulation.
Upside down pic related.

>> No.1920492

It's really pointless trying to argue with someone whose only argument is to use maymay reaction images.
Just let it him believe he's right.

>> No.1920504

>>1920492
> I-if I use ad hominen bullshit I will win this discussion!

The bluetooth controller, anon. How do you use it and hold the phone at the same time?

>>1920491
This fag gets it.

>> No.1920517

>>1920504
The phone is connected to the controller via wireless link. Button presses on the controller allow me to send inputs to the phone. This is how I am able to use the bluetooth controller and the phone at the same time.
If you're asking how I prop the phone up, I normally set it on my bag, which sits in my lap because I'm not a seat-hog.
Thanks for not using a meme this time, aside from the forced stuttering, but I can let that slide.

>> No.1920520

Is the GCW zero already open for international shipping?

Not living in murrica is suffering.

>> No.1920528

>>1920520
On their official site they have a list of places you can purchase from. One of which is based in Europe, another is based in Australia.
Both of which have stock.

>> No.1920529

>>1920517
input lag... yay

>> No.1920530

>>1920517
That's not very practical and confortable, anon.
So you are OK with playing in a device that forces you to adopt an unconfortable posture to see the screen and that can fall or move anytime the bus turns around or hits a road bump?

Genius.

>> No.1920532

>>1920529
I've yet to notice any input lag.
Maybe you should use better controllers?

>> No.1920539

>>1920530
What kind of bag do you have that you can't prop it against the seat in front of you?

>> No.1920549

>>1920532
Just because you are too pleb to notice doesnt mean it isnt there. I used a Nintendo Wii classic controller and i can tell a big difference playing LttP on my phone or with the psp.

>> No.1920551

>>1920549
>i have this problem so everyone does
Argument is over, I guess.

>> No.1920556

>>1920551
Unless you are wired in there is goin to be input lag. Period. Argument over.

>> No.1920558

>>1920551
I don't have this problem no nobody else can have it.
Intelligence is over I guess, bluetooth guy.

>> No.1920564

>>1920556
There's a degree of input lag regardless of how you're connected, regardless of what you're connected to. You're never going to get an instantaneous transmission of data.

>>1920558
I don't recall saying that at all. Just because I blew your argument out of the water doesn't mean it applies to me too. Please don't put words in my mouth, okay?

>> No.1920570 [DELETED] 

>>1920564
Get a load of this guy.

>> No.1920646

>>1920549
if it's a consistently small amount of lag you'll probably be completely used to it in about 10 minutes though.

>> No.1920665

>>1920564
>Just because I blew your argument out of the water
Sources, please

>>1920491
This.

>> No.1920684

>>1920665
Source:
>>1920551

>> No.1920698 [DELETED] 

>>1920684
>>1920665
holy shit you people are so autistic

>> No.1920706

I use a PSP and a GBAMicro.

>> No.1920708

What's a good price to pay for a boxed psp 3000?

>> No.1920736

>>1920706
Do GBA flashcarts play SNES games?

>> No.1920739

>>1920736
No. No they don't.
You'll only be playing Game Boy and Game Boy Advance games.

>> No.1920745

>>1920736
Why would you want to? GBA resolution is 240x160. SNES resolution is 256x224. Meaning to play SNES games on a GBA screen you'd have to cut 64 horizontal pixel lines which would make sprites, especially fonts, look terrible. Nintendo DS can't even emulate SNES properly at it's resolution.

>> No.1920746

>>1920739
So neither the PSP, DS and GBA play SNES decently.

My only option is Android or hope the hack the Vita?

>> No.1920759

I'm going to aggregate all of the phones into one post for the sake of keeping things organized. If you'd like, it'd be nice to reply to this post if you're posting a phone.
>>1917761
>>1917841
>>1918167

>> No.1920760

>>1920746
Basically.
Although it's rumored that the new 3DS is getting exclusive SNES title for the virtual console. It's likely that there will be a decent emulator based off of it when it gets hacked.

>> No.1920765

>>1920759
That third post doesn't contain a phone. That's a tablet.

>> No.1920771

>>1920708
Someone answer my question.

>> No.1920772

>>1920746
>My only option
there's also these: >>1918690 >>1918705 >>1919943

>> No.1920773

>>1920771
Fucking google it.
It's a recent, retail item.

>> No.1920776

>>1920746
Uhh I would say PSP emulates snes decently, maybe not all games work or you will need to try multiple emulators to play different games.

>> No.1920789

>>1920776
I don't think you've ever used PSP snes emulation.

>> No.1920790

>>1920772
But getting another device just for SNES emulation seems pointless and the PSP does PSP and PS1 natively which is a huge plus.

Is there any chance of RetroArch changing anything?

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>>1920789
All of these work fine, anon. Sure i cant play starfox but i played that to death as a kid anyway.

>> No.1920825

>>1920790
>getting another device just for SNES emulation seems pointless
I thought that's what you were trying to do. Now it seems pointless?
>PSP does PSP and PS1 natively which is a huge plus
Yeah and it's worth it for those titles. You should own a PSP.
>Is there any chance of RetroArch changing anything?
So what what I'm getting is that you're a PSP owner looking for a device to do everything your PSP did but also expand it's capabilities. So what you really meant by this post >>1920746 wasn't "my only option for SNES" but instead "my only option for SNES, PS1, and PSP" which is then correct. Droid or hacked Vita.

>> No.1920850

>>1920825
I dont have any handheld but after trying to play on my phone with touch screen I'm interested in one.

>> No.1920858

>>1920765
Oops. My bad.

>> No.1920920

>>1920850
Then get a PSP. It's the best place to start. If you like to tinker with devices and software and want a bit more power then consider a GCW-Zero. If you like your phone emulation and droid but want a device with buttons then get a JXD, but if you don't want to spend that much then get a controller for your phone.

>> No.1920986

>>1920776
Yes, PSP emulates SNES good enough, even more of you're mostly playing RPG's.

The deal breaker for me was the inability to play SNES romhacks. That's why I got my JXD s5800. Getting a Xperia Play it's a good choice if you're from the States, but for me, they were way too expensive (130 USD for an used one, go figure)

The PSP is probably the best emulator machine for now. The only things lacking on it are perfect genesis and SNES emulation. If it only had that, it would be awesome.

Let's wait for the PSVita to be no longer supported, so we can hack the hell out of it....or a new gcw zero model....or a new chink device with a proper CPU and GPU.

(I just want something to play Super Mario 64 Star Road on)

>> No.1921034

>>1920986
I plan on playing mostly those SNES RPGs that didn't get a better version on another console.

Any of those have problems or game breaking bugs on the PSP?

>> No.1921042

Just picked up a psp go for a little over $50, pretty good deal right?

>> No.1921059

>>1921042
yea definitely if its in good shape. mine was 60.

>> No.1921078

>>1921059
Sweet deal, I'm excited to actually have something that can emulate okay.

>> No.1921234

anyone here have an xperia play?
considering one of those

>> No.1921241

>>1919873
Yeah the thing is definitely ugly as sin, but yeah you can pair up controllers to it without a problem. I haven't specifically tested the DS3, but I'm sure it'll work. Most of the buttons feel pretty solid, but the D-Pad is kinda meh.. It works well enough for most games, but games that require pinpoint inputs can be pretty difficult without practice. Overall the $200 price tag is very worth it. The battery lasts me a couple days of on and off use before I throw it back on the charger. There's really nothing like playing Earthbound or San Andreas, or even browsing /vr/ on the toilet.

>> No.1921263

>>1921241
Also I just remembered.. Another fallback of the controller is that the ABXY buttons are a little too large for my hands so charge/dash/jumping in games like megaman x can be a little straining. I don't think these hold back the system as a whole, though, in my opinion. I'm just being honest about the console's flaws.

>> No.1921317

>>1920771
Less than 80 dollars.

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>>1920491
I wanted to love the psp go but has shit battery life. 2-3 hours of gameplay and mine is dead. the internal storage is nice, though.

I did end up buying something similar to these grips, mine has a battery backup that doesn't work that great but the grip does make it less awkward to hold.

>> No.1921542

Is there an actual reason why SNES emulation on the PSP is awful? Is it a lack of support by developers? Hardware problems?

>> No.1921556

>>1921542
If i remember right its that some carts used special chips the psp has trouble emulating, or something.

>> No.1921564

>>1921556
That makes sense. FF3 was just awful when I tried playing it, and I know that had a fancy RAM chip in it. That was probably the worst, though the action games were a little laggy.

>> No.1921594

I have a psp and it works great for gba, nes, etc. But is really slow for snes. I recently was given an xperia play and that thing is amazing! It emulates snes really well. it is pretty much a psp go that was made into a cell phone so all the emulators are on t but it has l and r triggers and two faux analog stick things. I love the psp cause it's screen is big. but the xperia is so portable

>> No.1921924

>>1921594
>it is pretty much a psp go that was made into a cell phone so all the emulators are on it

that's because it runs android. the hardware completely different from any psp

>> No.1921948

>>1921542
>>1921556

is it actually that bad though?
I saw a video of it playing super mario rpg perfectly,which uses essentially the same cpu but running at almost 3 times the speed.
It couldn't really handle star fox at full speed but that's really at another level.
There weren't that many fx/fx2 games anyway.

>> No.1921961

>>1917467
Although the Shield is an amazing handheld, it is not the most comfortable one. The D-pad is as bad as the Xbox 360's and the buttons and spread a little bit too fat and they are feel soft. Other than that is wonderful.

>> No.1921970

>>1921948
So far the only games i havent been able to play are:
War 2010
Starfox
Uniracers
Doom

>> No.1921976

The D pad on this thing is a little bit messed up, I replaced the rubber thing with one from a SNES controller and it improved everything by a lot. The battery life is awful, though.

>> No.1921978

Sony PSP
And you can't beat those PS1 eBoots

>> No.1921980

>>1921970
what about yoshi's island? it has the fx2, but I don't know how much it's used

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Here's what I've figured out from doing some quick research. The Chinese android devices are hit-or-miss, but there are a couple notable ones. What's I've concluded is that jxd is only ok compared to the other manufacturers, and that GPD makes generally good quality stuff. And, the iBen L1 seems to be better than the leading GPD g5a, with a better d-pad and screen. But, good luck finding one in stock.

>> No.1922539

>>1917467
warning: the shield can't do pcsx2 or dolphin, i'm not even sure it can do ppsspp

>> No.1922543

>>1920318
Add MSX to that list
The MSX emulator is incredible

>> No.1922552

>>1920517
Jesus that sounds horrible.Wouldn't even be able to move through fear of moving the phone around

>> No.1922946

>>1922539
of course it can't do pcsx2, no phone can.
and tegra k1 devices are really the only ones capable of playing anything decently on dolphin as far as I know.

>> No.1922974

>>1918820

Its emulation is garbage.

>> No.1922981

>>1920318
I'm thinking about buying a PSP after i leave work just to set it for emulation. Been using my android tablet but it's taking too much space of other stuff, also it doesnt emulate DS/PSP/PSX games well

Any good guides about how to set stuff? Never had a PSP before

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>>1917614
>wanting to use closed source programs

>> No.1923021 [DELETED] 

>>1923019
Go back to /g/, no one feels like sucking linux hairy balls here

>> No.1923028

>>1923019
The games are closed source either way.

>> No.1923040

So can any PSP be set up for PS1 emulation? I remember that there were limits for which firmware or model could be hacked.

Having trouble finding a clear, up-to-date answer through google.

BTW: According to a review on newegg, the Shield has a dpad as bad as the X360's. Such a shame... it sounded perfect.

>> No.1923089

>>1918167
>>1918203

can I get some more info on these? not a lot out there and I was thinking about buying one. How's the ps1 emulation?

>> No.1923110

>>1923040

It runs it native I believe

I dont know if you can put in a PS1 bin or ISO directly. You have to set them up with popsloader IIRC. It compresses it in a readable EBOOT for the PSP and you can customize its menu appearance and stuff.

>> No.1923120

3DS with a DSTwo. DS, SNES and GBA games with nice buttons. Save states, but they have frozen my games several times upon returning after the save. That is, you save, return to the game, and it freezes. Very annoying. Works most of the time though.

>> No.1923127

>>1923110
Yeah. You run the ISO through a program and after that it just runs.

Emulating PS1 with no speedup is shit though at this point.

>> No.1923128

>>1923019
we need closed source so that developers have a reason to make things. I would be willing to bet the majority of peoples top 5 games are closed source and exclusive to closed source systems

>> No.1923184

>>1923128
What are closed source systems and what about games with an open source engine but copyrighted content?

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>>1922974

>> No.1923336

>>1922981
your android table can't handle ds emulation?
have you tried drastic?

>> No.1923375

>>1922974
ur gabrage lul

>> No.1923585

>>1923110
>>1923127
For ISO/bin you need popsloader, but you can just download a PSP-converted eboot and it won't need Popsloader

>> No.1925367

>>1923336
yeah i have. it works, but 3D heavy games are really slow

i can emulate stuff like warioware and phoenix wright just fine, but the rest stutters a lot

>> No.1926658

>>1920318
No.

>> No.1926664

>>1920646
Not if you're playing any action games, or arcade games, or platformers, or fighters, or shmups....

>> No.1926669

>>1920776
>>1920986
>Yes, PSP emulates SNES good enough,
No it doesn't. It's too slow.

>> No.1926674

>>1926669
If you are a retard and cant set it up right or try different emus then yea.

>> No.1926684

My Ipod could run SNES and PS1 games pretty well so I don't think power will be an issue if you buy one of the newer phones or tablets.

But you'll need something with real buttons or else it's impossible to play, and preferably a big screen. I never tried the PSVita but I think it has some emulators on it.

>> No.1926701

>>1920326
What kind of dumbass carries a controller around with him everytime he goes out.

If you play with it and plug the controller via bluetooth the phone won't last long, and that goes against the whole purpose of having a phone.

Plus you'll look ridiculous plugging a controller to a phone and playing games on that tiny screen.

>> No.1926709

>>1926684
Every emulator for psp should also work for vita.

>> No.1926713

>>1923585
Or you can just convert it yourself, it is super easy.

>> No.1927176

>>1923271
Not him, but SNES emulation on PSP is worse than ZSNES, and that's a fact everyone knows

>> No.1927315

>>1926664
If it's small enough yes. I used to play on a crt and I switched to a dell ips recently. The extra lag is very small and consistent. I don't even notice it anymore.

>> No.1927365

psp is pleb-tier emulation device. don't believe the shills. android is the best because of the huge developer community + better/open hardware

>> No.1927545

>>1918167
>JXD S7300

Those that work with RetroArch?

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>>1922000
iBen L1 has shit sticks with big deadzone, the d-pad is wobbling in its socket, and CPU is only 1 GHz, which makes it suck in emulators that rely on CPU (aka most of them),and it also lacks firmware updates.
PS1 and N64 emulation is slow on it,unles you're used to frameskipping 1-3 frames.

I'ts good for Android games though - it has a PowerVR chip, but thats only thing it's good for. It's to clunky and uncomfortable if you want it just for SNES/GBA emulation.

GPD G5A and JXD s7800B have similar characteristics. GPD is 5 inch (800x480) and has great ergonomics, JXD is less ergonomic, but is 7 (1280x800) inch, it also costs more.
GDP wastes battery like no time, if the game is heavy it can burn out in 2 hours or less.
JXD has better battery and is more economic about it (especially after getting an M3 fan firmware from dingoonity).

Both play PS1 and N64 really well, but for some reasons GPD experiences momentary slowdowns in places where JXD runs fine. N64 eulation is great - no slowdowns on most games, (aside from Conker)

Emus of previous gens work perfectly on both devices.

Most NDS games,3D included run just fine on JXD. Played through Metroid Prime Hunters on JXD without any slowdowns.

JXD can even play some PSP games that use 2D graphics (Guilty Gear Judgement works flawlessly for instance)

Also since JXD has bigger screen and res, it's often better for playing some old PC ported classics like Baldur's Gate and Heroes of Might And Magic 3 (Exagear allows to play HoMM, Civ3, Disciples2 and, unofficialy Fallout 1-2).

GTA SA works well, if you pirate yourself an optimised cache - 24-30 fps most of the time.

Beloko's -touch ports work flawlesly, Return to Castle Wolfenstein, Jedi Academy, GZDoom are a blast.

You'd need a GameKeyboard app to remap the controls though, for some reason some games do not recognise gamepad input on both consoles, but if you map them with GameKeyboard,then switch it off, the native hardware buttons will work just fine.

>> No.1927691

>>1927545
All JXD's work great with RetroArch.
RetroArch however has some questionable (not the fastest/most compatible) selection of emus.
Very often, you'd be better getting separate emulators.

>>1927683
JXD s5800b is basically a 5 inch s7800, but it also has a bit worse CPU, and I don't have it, so I can't say anything about its behaviour in emulators. Heard it's good though, and can be overclocked a bit for better performance.

s7800a is more expensive than s7800b and has better gpu (PowerVR vs Mali400) and chip (Allwinner vs Mediatek), but worse frequency (1-1.2Ghz clocked vs 1.4-1.6 Ghz clocked). A is better for android games, B is better for emulation.

Also s7800 and s5300 have no stick mapping problem s7300 had - all sticks are independent and work great in emulation. There's no"official" case for it - the bag they offer is crap, but a $10 BlackHorns console case is really good, and fits 7 inch console, as if it was made specially for it.

>> No.1927893

I've been lurking for a while now and so I only have one question. Is the JXD S5800 one of the best choices if, say, I wanted to emulate systems from the NES, Sega Master System, etc. upwards to the Dreamcast, PSP and DS?

>> No.1927926

>>1927893
Dreamcast had always shitty emulation. No handheld can handle it, no matter how powerful it is. Your only hope is PC or considerably powerful (2GHz min) Notebook. Otherwise, prepare to slowdowns and stuttering.

JXD S5800 is best for everything up to PS1 and N64.

I have s7800, as I said one post above, and it plays PS1, N64 and DS best than anything else out there. s5800 is has a bit slower CPU, but also lower res and is more ergonomic.
I suppose you'd have to turn auto frameskipping on to avert slowdowns on PS1 and N64

Some heavier late-era N64 games like Conker's Bad Fur Day will have slowdowns, no matter what emulator or platform you use just because of the way they were made. Stuff like Ocarina Of Time would play just fine.

I don't know how DS games would behave, but i know that s5800 screen is not enough to get both DS screens on it with x2 resolution, while s7800b is. You'd have to ask around on Dingoonity for people who actually have s5800 to test the games you want to play. Usually people there are kind enough to deliver. Full 3D games work fine at S7800b.

PSP emulation has lots of compatibility issues on any platform, PC included. The only game I've been able to play with no issues is Guilty Gear Judgement. PSXtoPSP ports/remakes usually go at only half the speed, and native PSP games with 3D give only 6-10 fps out of 60.

So:
Best to emulate Dreamcast and PSP - none at all.
Best to emulate PSX and N64 - S7800b for performance, S5800 for comfort
Best for everything below (SNES, SEGA, MAME) - S5800

>> No.1927940

>>1927926
>Best to emulate Dreamcast and PSP
or you know
a PSP

>> No.1927954

>>1927940
PSP is shit to emulate SNES, can't emulate DS and Dreamcast in any way. Android devices can run Dreamcast games at about 70-80% speed.

>> No.1927961

>>1927954
Wrong on my side. Dreamcast on android is much slower than that, and compatibility is shit, but emu is being worked on.

>> No.1927971

>>1927926
Okay, thanks for the info. To be honest I wasn't that concerned about Dreamcast emulation since I heard it has never been done properly. I was more concerned with PSX and N64 emulation and everything below it.

>>1927954
Yeah, SNES emulation is also a deal breaker for me.

>> No.1927972

>>1927926
>2GHz min
Nah. My old laptop did DC quite well and was only 1.2. It had an ATI GPU so that might have helped.

>> No.1927983

>>1927954
nothing emulates Dreamcast properly
PSP CAN emulate DS. the touch part can't be emulated, which sucks, obviously, but plenty of games can be played (castlevania, ffta2, some rpgs, some platformers)

i never encountered major problems playing SNES, but i admit that i never tried many games (i'm not really a snes fan anyway). in the end it looks to me that its a choice between emulating DS or PSP, both with great games. PSP can emulate (almost) everything below it and play PS games. JXD can emulate (almost) everything below it and play DS and SNES games. pick your poison from there

>> No.1927986

>>1927983
forgot to add: nothing beats PSX emulation on the PSP. so there's that too. psx emulation for the android still have the usual bugs, incompatibility and slowdowns with some games, PSP plays then without any trouble.

PSP: old systems + psp and psx games
JXD: old systems + DS and snes games

it's a matter of choosing, really.

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>>1927983
>PSP CAN emulate DS. the touch part can't be emulated, which sucks, obviously, but plenty of games can be played (castlevania,
which castlevania?

>> No.1928000

>>1927986
PSX on PSP uses some weird blitting mechanics that smudges the pixels. Many people do not notice it, but for me, who grew up in CRT monitor era and has a keen eye for distortion, aspect ratio and refresh frequency, PSX on PSP doesn't look right.

I still can't find any emulator that would use correct aspect ratio for Castlevania: SOTN - every emulator stretches it a bit horizontally, resulting in ellipsoid raounds (look at the moon at the start of the game). PEOPS plugin and/or manual resolution can be used for fixing, but those are available only on PC, and not on any handheld.

Also castlevanias on DS in fact require touch screen to defeat bosses (at least Dawn of Sorrow), and utilise some gameplay mechanics.

>> No.1928006

>>1928000
>Also castlevanias on DS in fact require touch screen to defeat bosses (at least Dawn of Sorrow)
there's a fix that auto drawing the seal bullshits so you just need to press a button and there you guy

>> No.1928009

Does Order of Ecclesia work on psp?

>> No.1928020

>>1928009
From what's been said, yes. However, there's no touchscreen so you won't be able to warp in Albus Mode.

>> No.1928040

>>1927365
Nigger, why would i shill for a discontinued system!? Sound like you work for android bruh.

>> No.1928047

>>1927954
How is that so?
My main reason for using my PSP is the extremely sturdy build when compared to cheap Chinese devices. I've never encountered any problem whatsoever besides that lack of L2/R2 and the fact that star fox for SNES doesn't emulate properly.

>> No.1928063

Looks like this is how far DS emulation on PSP goes
http://youtu.be/A69jhgZkcTY?t=1m32s

>> No.1928069

>>1928063
better video
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vQOeJL_vNMo

>> No.1928081

>>1927365
I dont think that word means what you think it means.

>> No.1928095

>>1928047
Because there's good chineese devices. You just need to learn how to lurk about them. So far latest JXD's are safe bet. They keep in touch with community and release their firmwares sourcecode.

>>1928063
>>1928069
>PSP can emulate DS.
>slow as fuck DS emulation on PSP (20 fps on 2d game Really?)

Doesen't seem like it's good at it.

JXD emulates all the games I tried at full speed with mo, or minor frameskip.
Full 3d games, Prime Hunters, solatorobo etc play flawlessly.

>> No.1928098

>>1927954
>shitposting: the chronicles

>> No.1928142

>>1928040
>>1928081

sorry. The psp-fags **

>> No.1928174 [DELETED] 

>>1927691
>>1927926
>s7800a is more expensive than s7800b and has better gpu (PowerVR vs Mali400) and chip (Allwinner vs Mediatek), but worse frequency (1-1.2Ghz clocked vs 1.4-1.6 Ghz clocked). A is better for android games, B is better for emulation.
>>1927926


The allwinner uses cortex a7s which are also slower than a9s even at the same clock speed. The mediatek chip is probably around 40-50% faster for most emulators. It is a much slower cpu.

>> No.1928181

>>1927926
>>s7800a is more expensive than s7800b and has better gpu (PowerVR vs Mali400) and chip (Allwinner vs Mediatek), but worse frequency (1-1.2Ghz clocked vs 1.4-1.6 Ghz clocked). A is better for android games, B is better for emulation.

>>1927691
>bit worse CPU


The allwinner uses cortex a7s which are also slower than a9s even at the same clock speed. The mediatek chip is probably around 40-50% faster for cpu bound emulators. The gpu is much better though, like you said. Most people here probably don't care though.

>> No.1928189

>>1928181
Actually, just noticed the allwinner cpu only runs at 1Ghz. The difference between an a7 and an a9 can be anywhere from 20-50%(ill say 25% average). At 1.6Ghz it's probably close to twice as fast, but that's more of an insult to the allwinner really.

>> No.1928210

>>1928189

To be fair, people who have 7800a say its actually better in pure Andoid ports like GTA SA and such, GTA has more effects like propper shaders and better textures on it.

However with nifty russian app called "GLTools" it is possible to emulate shaders and texture rendering on software level to get similar visual results at cost of minor performance drop (sometimes playing with GL options actually provides performance increase).

GLTools also allows to play some Tegra-only games on Mali - the ones that are not softwarely-lock to identify Tegra device. Some managed to get Shield's Half-Life 2 running on s7800, but it was windowed, choppy, and had texture problems.

>> No.1928218

>>1928210
Doesn't surprise me. While the cpu is half as fast, the gpu is twice.

>> No.1928528

>>1918607
Not to mention the psp library is filled with classic remakes, also psn store as a shitton of ps1 games.

>> No.1928532

>>1922974
only the snes emulation hasn't been ironed out. Otherwise every other ones are good.

>> No.1928537

>>1917467
Is the dpad still shit?

>> No.1928561

>>1923019
>not just pirating closed source programs

platforms need to be closed to give developers incentive.

>> No.1928784

>>1922539
It can do ppsspp. There's a bunch of videos on Youtube and a couple of articles about it