/vr/ - Retro Games

>>1908273
>AiTD2→AiTD1
ya blew it

>>1908273
Love the voice actors in this game, both in english and spanish .

>>1908312
Indeed.... AITD2 is pretty bad. It's not even survival horror anymore. It's hardly survival, and it's definitly not horror. It's kinda like Dino Crisis 2 is to Dino Crisis 1.

The New Nightmare could be good if it didn't have glitches and if they weren't some really shitty design choices in terms of progression / puzzles (like that wall you have to walk over... ).
Also the original PS1 version is terrible, due to their light system every screen has to be loaded twice, which means loading times between camera angles are twice as long as in a Resident Evil. Now, it's 'tolerable' in RE (you get used to it), but twice as that becomes really annoying. Plus, the PS2 version is just the PS1 version put on a PS2 disck and the loading times are almost as bad if not just as bad...

>>1908273
I interviewed the composer, bruno bonnell paid him a trip to LA to record the ending song.
I love them all the voiced books were goat in French !
I'll try to interview Hubert Chardot, the writer of the trilogy. Might be fun.

>>1908273
How the fuck can you even think the original is the second worst after the Atari ones?

>>1912042
This game was terrible, bad controls, terrible driver missions, the only good thing was that the protagnist had memories of the past Edward Carnby.

At least in the original you can understand the quality by the time that was made.

>>1912658
Not the point I was making. I was more saying that how can you think Alone in the Dark 2 and The New Nightmare are better

>>1912673

Both games has issues like the others, in fact I like all the games ( except the new one ) but AItD 2 has better history and music and you can be Santa Claus. The new nightmare is tolerable and the MC looks good.

A good thing about the first one is that you can select between two characters.

>>1912925
>but AItD 2 has better history

The first one was actually inspired and felt like a H.P. Lovecraft story, the second is just Home Alone. It can't have a better story than the first game when it fails to be a horror game

>>1912953
>the second is just Home Alone
You got me there anon, is true, i forgot that "monstrous tree" or whatever it was and the fact of Lovecraft inspiration, and the ending was weird and funny.

>>1913137
>is true

That is not how English works, anon. You say "it is true", not "is true". This post has been brought to you by the gamer grammar club.

>>1913171

I made worse mistakes because I wrote fast and when i noticed my mistakes was too late, and no one bothered about that, but thanks anyway for the advice and the correction.

>>1913193
>was too late

That is not how English works, anon. You say "it was too late", not "was too late". This post has been brought to you by the gamer grammar group.

>>1908986
The voice acting is one of the best in video games, which is odd for a game made in 1992

>>1913196
Mr. Coolguy nitpicking an obvious ESL poster

>>1915619
It is not nitpicking, it is teaching him so he does not make that mistake on a school paper. If you were doing something wrong, would you not like for someone to tell you what?

>>1909193
Alone in the Dark 2 is as scary as Bamse

>>1908273

Why in the hell did they add zombies with guns?

It's as stupid as when Resident Evil did it.

>>1918115
They wanted to copy things from Resident Evil, just like Resident Evil had copied AiTD before.

>>1918248
But Alone in the Dark 2 came before Resident Evil

>>1918115
The people who worked in the first game left half way into the development of the second one due to how stupid the plot got. But the original DOS games were mostly written by the same dude

>>1918265
AitD 3 as well

>>1920578
You don't say?

For some weird reason i really liked this game.
Maybe it was because it was the only translated game we had in dad's pc so it was the only i could really play when young. And boy i played a lot of it. The cowboy zombies were fun and even the stupid senseless puzzles amused me. it's incredible how growing up with a shitty game only makes you have some kind of twisted affection for it

>>1925363
German?

>>1910130
What are you going to bribe him with?

I was referring to the first game, but as >>1920578
said the first 3 games were released before the first RE game.

I was under the impression that only the first game was worth playing.

>>1929927
Nah. AITD2 is definitly not as good, the original creator left during the making because he disagreed about the action orientation. If you ask me AITD2 isn't even survival horror, there is neither survival nor horror, it's pretty much like what Dino Crisis 2 is to DC1.
3 and New Nightmare are okay.

>>1930426
>definitly

>>1909193
Go play the PC version.

They all aged terribly.

Playing AITD1 is a torture today.

The New Nightmare is the less worst.

>>1932793
>Playing AITD1 is a torture today.
What do you mean?
I bought AitD during the gog.com sale, played it yesterday for the first time and it seemed alright.
Controls aren't as terrible as I expected and the visuals/atmosphere are pretty nice thanks to the cinematic camera angles. Sure the enemies and animations look more goofy than scary now and I heard there are some dead ends in the puzzle design but I really don't see it being a "torture to play".

Also a question: What are the gameplay differences between the two characters?

>>1908273
I grew up with the original AitD Trilogy on Macintosh (don't crucify me)

It was one of the first real non-arcade style game I ever played and I loved the absolute shit out of all of them.

My personal favorite back then was 3 because of the Western theme (I was obsessed with that genre as a kid) and that halfway through the game you get to play as a motherfucking panther!

However nowadays I've been slowly gravitating to the original due to the Lovecraft theme and ambient soundtrack
Link related, is the Macintosh version as I remember it
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ErUT8vE1RRI

>>1932815
Also bought it during the sale, still getting used to the controls, but i like it otherwise even if the enemies look silly more than anything.

It also managed to spook me a bit right from the go when i idled a bit in the starting room and an enemy came crashing through the window.

>>1933435
Why would anyone crucify you?

>>1932815
The only terrible thing is figuring out how to run

>>1933437
The just look silly because the polygons are dated

>>1932793
Keep telling yourself that

>>1929927
The DOS originals are worth playing for their own reasons, the sequels are not as good as the first but 2 and 3 are still better than anything else with the name Alone in the Dark on it

>>1932793
I played AitD1 for the first time a few months ago, and I found it quite playable.

>>1958484
It has aged better than a lot of early 3D games

Loved how the Voice actors did a nice job representing the messages even in Spanish.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i-wD6RVn4g4&feature=youtu.be&t=26m48s

>>1960026
Spain voice acting tends to be hit or miss due to the same accents used forever, but this is nice

The first one starts off in a somewhat 'goofy' note but things escalate rather quickly.

I was getting unnerved by the time I reached the first set of stairs.

The only thing I remember about 3 is that there was a terrible jumping puzzle and you fought Robocop at the end.

>>1963963
An actual robocop or an actual tinman?

>>1964861

Just a dude in a cyborg suit who looked like a ripoff of Robocop. The Alone in the Dark games had some real issues with tone past the first one, but that bit stuck out as being particularly odd.

>>1966058
Yeah, I think that's because Frédéric Raynal left during the making of 2 because he was unhappy with the direction it was taking.

To be honest I thought there was no problem of tone in The New Nightmare and the reboot (they had other problems though), only in 2 and 3.

I'm playing with a friend through the whole Alone in the Dark series and it's a blast- the first game has us puzzled the whole time about what was going on every second due to the poor, primitive 3D and cluttered design (for some reason the dead pirate in the first game was unbeatable by any sword and I just managed to pass through the courtyard full of invincible, unstoppable spiders more than once to reach the ballroom, taking some quick save scumming). We reached the end thanks to a save we made at the beginning of the cave section of the game, because the first time we've been through that hell we missed the fact that you have to burn the damn tree (I though the painting meant that the tree shot fireballs, isn't it what it does after all).

Now we are at the second game and even though it's a completely different, HIGH-ACTION packed game, it's still fun.
Still, at the beginning we explored the gardens and managed to save all ammos and lose little to no life and got the rope and hook- then we found out that you can enter the mansion anytime via a bush with a rock in front where Carnby just levitates in front of. Walkthroughs seems to indicate that there was a statue in the garden and some other stuff, are we gonna eventually get stuck?

Also discuss your Alone in the Dark experience. It's truly terrifying due to being so confusing as a game.

>>1932793
I played AITD1 for my first time about two weeks ago and used Xpadder+xbox360 controller, and it was all fine, control wise.
All except running, which works like shit.
The in the second game they slighlty fixed running but it still works about 50% of the time, and introduced the high kick which is ridicolous.
Then in the third one the kick is still stupid and the running is almost working.

>>1958461
Up to that part everything was ok
Then all of a sudden corridor after corridor with a new monster around every corner and it turns all action and jumping

Didn't help that I played that part with a big fever

>>1966102
Why would you play a frightening game when you are under a big fever?

>>1967130
I didn't know I had yet. I realized it when I dreamed to be stuck in a alone in the dark room with alone in the dark controls, forced all ngiht to "throw book" at the walls because there was nothing else to do to get out. And the danse macabre from the game (the one on the record) played in loop.

A whole fucking night.

>>1967168
That is a great way to spend your night. More people should try playing the original game with the lights out in the middle of the night with not much else but the sound

>>1966097
The running is a pain in the pass when you have to run in those nasty caves at a moment's notice

This may not be /vr/, but what went wrong with the reboot?

>>1969626
This guy explains perfectly what went wrong:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b5VimZkkPvU

>>1969804
I wish more YouTube videos had annotations with music instead of hearing people talk

>>1969626
It's buggy and it tries too much to be a fucking movie.

>>1969804
There is some wrong in there. He claims they copied RE4, except that development of the reboot started before RE4 and that they went for the action orientation with this type of camera before RE4 did.

I bought 1 + 2 + 3 of gog today. I have to admit, I think the game didnt age quite well. I usually enjoy playing old games, not this one though. While I can see that it would have blown my mind If I played it in 1993, it doesnt do much for me now. Mega clumsy controls are probably the biggest dealbreaker.

>>1970602
>except that development of the reboot started before RE4.

Really? They took a lot of time to make this game and only to make the worst AitD... for now.

>>1972417
Yep. Don't worry, the franchise is dead. It's like Duke Nukem and DNF.

>>1971282
>didnt age quite

>>1969591
>pain in the pass

How well do the originals run on modern computers? Any compatibility issues?

>>1975362
Use DosBox and you will be fine

>>1966097
>ridicolous

>>1966087
Don't you need to kill the pirate in order to progress in the game?

>>1966062
>To be honest I thought there was no problem of tone in The New Nightmare and the reboot

>>1966087
Well, the pirate in AitD1 is definitely beatable, you just have to "fence" with him (alternate between stabbing and slashing on the arrow keys)

As for 2, well, the story definitely takes quite a few turns; as long as you continue to read EVERYTHING you come across, you shouldn't get stuck. That's pretty much the key to beating Alone in the Dark games, the answer can be found either in books or by looking around for something out of place.

>>1963169
What is so goofy about the attic?

>>1979951
Welllll, if by goofy he means a monster jumping through the window about 2 minutes after the game starts and a zombie coming up from a trap door if you don't block it with a chest then yea, it could be considered "goofy"

>>1979118
what's wrong with new nightmare? i thought it was pretty solid, but i've never played any other AitD game.

>>1980412
Maybe he was refering to the GBC version:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NMrlVcgR240

That scream at 2:29.. I laughed.

>>1982501
There's no scream at 2:29. FALSE ADVERTISER! BURN IN TORMENT.

>>1982501
Terrible.

I hope the new AiTD it can be a good game and don't make the same mistakes like the other one.

>>1986075
It is not going to be good even the DOS sequels failed to be as good as the original and those had the same assets behind the first

>>1988060
Are you implying that AitD 3 was a failure?

>>1988060
>DOS sequels failed to be as good as the original and those had the same assets behind the first
But the DOS sequels were missing Frederick Raynal; maybe that's all that mattered.

>>1986075
Wait, are you saying they're making a newer one? I thought the reboot killed the franchise.

>>1990398
That is all that mattered but compared to all the reboots and revivals, the DOS sequels were nice and much better than people give them credit for

>>1993190
Looks like Left 4 Dead + AitD for me.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alone_in_the_Dark:_Illumination

>>1991392
Looks like Left 4 Dead + AitD for me.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alone_in_the_Dark:_Illumination

>>1994886

Wow. Just wow. The series seems to reach a new low every time there is a new game. At least the reboot was its own thing and was ambitious. This just looks like an amateurish L4D rip-off except YEARS after L4D was a thing.

Just stop it already... it's hard to believe they haven't given up on the franchise after the kind of feedback the reboot had anyway.

>>1995245

Let's see how this ends, i can give theme the benefit of the doubt, but don't following the original gameplay is a bad point to this game.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VhHwHNSQTac

>>1999323
Love that resurrection part in AitD 3.

By the way, is possible a remake of that games?, just like LucasArts did with Monkey Island.

It's a little known fact that the original AitD is part of two trilogies. The obvious one, and a second including Shadow of the Comet and Prisoner of Ice.

HOLY SHIT FUCKING FINALLY!
http://www.gameblog.fr/news/46376-mikami-sans-alone-in-the-dark-resident-evil-aurait-ete-un-fp
>Bonus Information: Mikami could not speak of the influence of Alone before leaving Capcom because Capcom had arranged with Infogrammes

>>2004241
>http://www.gameblog.fr/news/46376-mikami-sans-alone-in-the-dark-resident-evil-aurait-ete-un-fp

FUCKING
FINALLY.

"J'étais flatté, car Sweet Home avait connu un grand succès, il était très bien conçu, et il était l'oeuvre de mon mentor dans la compagnie"

Years of discussion ended just now.

>>2004241
So what's the big deal with this article? I can't read this language.

>>2004947

From Google translation, it sounds like RE is indeed inspired by Sweet Home (not sure why it wasn't called Sweet Home something or other - the translation sounds a bit shaky there, maybe an issue with getting the rights?). The game was also originally going to be an FPS, but Mikami was inspired by AITD to make it the third person game that we know today.

>>2004982
So basically shit we already knew but now it's 100% confirmed?

>>2004993
yes.
>we
except for some vocal RE hardcore fanboy.
>"Resident Evil is nothing like Alone in the dark, fucking trolls!"

>>2004993
also, the why he keep denying the obvious AITD inspiration
>Mikami could not speak of the influence of Alone before leaving Capcom because Capcom had arranged with Infogrammes

>>2004934
That's nothing new. Everybody knows Capcom asked Mikami to make something inspired by Sweet Home to make Resident Evil.

>>2005017
That's nothing compared to the silly RE fanboys claiming AITD was some unknown game that had no influence on the industry.

>>2001401
I hope that can be done.

>>2008841
That depends of the owners of this series, i don't know why they don't want to do an HD version of this.