/vr/ - Retro Games

===NEWS===

The rumor mill/Tarnsman says Back to Saturn X's 2nd episode will come out TONIGHT

AND TOMORROW (Sept 1st), Plutonia 1024 will be released too! http://www.doomworld.com/vb/post/1286407 THAT'S A LOAD OF WADS!

Doomhack! It's...well, it's something. It's also legal to play now! http://pastebin.com/X5dddz3F

Doom 4 reveal! Well, kinda. Only those who went to Quakecon got to see it, but here's a basic rundown of what was shown. http://pastebin.com/W8P7fdq3

Demonsteele lets you slash demons, Donte style; while being lml METAL lml. Try it here! https://github.com/TerminusEst13/Folded1000Times

Here's a music stream that only plays Doom music, 24/7; feel free to listen if you're interested http://liquiddoom.net/

===POPULAR MODS===

/vr/:
200 Minutes of /vr/: http://www.doomworld.com/idgames/?id=17781
GMOTA: http://forum.zdoom.org/viewtopic.php?p=742401
HDoom: http://www.best-ever.org/download?file=m12-hdoom-techdemo5.pk3
Metroid Dreadnought: http://zandronum.com/forum/showthread.php?tid=4561
The Space Pirate: https://drive.google.com/file/d/0BxbbtKR5bll_anFPaVhUQVZqcnM/edit?usp=sharing (tutorial: http://youtu.be/mrFF8LCZw5Y))

Other:
Doom RPG: http://forum.zdoom.org/viewtopic.php?f=19&t=33292
DoomRL Arsenal: http://forum.zdoom.org/viewtopic.php?t=37044
Hideous Destructor: http://forum.zdoom.org/viewtopic.php?t=12973
Hocus Doom: http://forum.zdoom.org/viewtopic.php?t=45804

Got something news-worthy? Reply to this post, or it'll likely be missed.

for shame

>Last thread >1897970 404'd
Wut? That hasn't happened in... Ever.

Anyway. Nice. B2SX.

>esselfortium
>"It should be up by midnight EST."
http://www.doomworld.com/vb/post/1301420

now THAT is an actually RELIABLE word, people. let this be a lesson for ya.

Still got to play the first. I'll make sure to get around to both.

>>1903665

Where does everybody get their news from? Essel has been muttering insane ramblings aboout tonight for at least a week.

>>1903676
>Where does everybody get their news from?

WELL, that's uh...an unfortunate subject that may never be known since it was buried 6 feet beneath the clay for the past few months.

Hopefully the next months are going to be filled with a lot more of Doom activity since we're close to the cacowards and everything.

>Essel being nuclear

knowing him, no big surprise. If I were the big man in the most prominent megawad I'd be pretty concerned about release dates too

>>1903693

yeah. everything I am relaying for now is just coming from the hotbed that is a certain irc channel.

>>1903706
oh shit
HI, DUDE

>>1903720

I am not actually essel, btw
Just to be clear.

Where were you when Best Ever was kill?

>>1903727

i was eting hot indian chili when fone rang

"best evr is kill"

no

and u

>The thread 404'd

Dude what? That's legit never happened before, as far as I know.

>>1903732
>not stating the name of who was phone to inform of الموت
Akbar pls

>tfw HDoom is probably dead
I just wanted to see what the other monsters would look all Haichified

>>1903736
Who the hell is this furfaggot you keep reposting.
And what the hell happened to the last thread? Did we just miss the chance to bump/new thread it? Or did we get mod'd?
And where's BE? Is Doom ded?

pew pew pew

>>1903742
and another nickel for the jar

>>1903757

qt

>>1903754
>And what the hell happened to the last thread? Did we just miss the chance to bump/new thread it?

I believe so.

>And where's BE?

Still there? Everything's fine, people are hosting servers.

Cool, the previous thread was stealth killed so that some other autistic tripfag could post his precious OP and news post. And they say mods do it for free.

>>1903773

Im not even one of the usual thread starter people.

Im only here to mention BTSX and was confused that there was no Doom thread.

>>1903779

Don't respond, trust me. We have fags who intentionally shit around to bait for replies.

>>1903779
Aren't dead threads supposed to be archived for the next 48 hours?

>>1903781

and then we have other dudes who pay the price for other asshats shitposting where they unfortunately happen to voice an opinion

some people's head need to cool off, we're taking it too seriously

>>1903786

some, not all. it's selective, that's for sure, no idea how it's done

The protagonist of the last non-Doom game you played is now fighting the demons.

How does he/she fare?

>>1903786

They are. That is how I found all the OP material and obsolete "news" to copypaste.

>>1903794
>the last non-Doom game you played

I...I don't understand.

>>1903794

Welp, off to work.

>>1903786
I thought that was still exclusive to /a/ and /v/.

>>1903794
Probably fine

>>1903794
>anyone from Killing Floor
I'm sure they'll be fine, as long as they don't have to dodge anything.

Actually, yeah, they're fucked.

>>1903794
Well, fuck. I'ma need to draw this one.

>>1903794
>NES CastleVania

Well on the one hand he controls like a dude with fucking morningstars for testicles.
On the other hand this is kind of his daily grind, so.

>>1903794
>Pokemon
As is the case with most things, there's a mod for that.

>>1903794
>Shadow Warrior(2013)

>>1903794
This is Seriously not at all different from what I normally do.

>"Is it out yet?"
>"No."
>"Is it out yet?"
>"No."
>"Is it out yet?"
>"No."

Anyone have good server recommendations, I can never seem to find anything appealing, its all like AOW or brutal doom or something

>>1903859

Well, is it?

>>1903865

no.

>>1903863
Make your own.
No, seriously, do it. People will join.

>>1903870
I don't trust the stability of my connection to host

>>1903794
>Diablo 3 Barbarian lady
I think she'd be fine just because she is borderline invincible by shouting and spinning

>>1903794
He'll be fine

>>1903872
Who said you had to be the one hosting?
This post brought to you by Best-Ever.

>>1903885
This. Host on BE, it's super reliable and easy to do. Never be held down by what other people want to play again.

Hello /DOOM/ I'm remaking GBADM.wad to be more enjoyable and better looking.

so far the first map is almost completed while the second map is in the works.

https://www.dropbox.com/s/dzw1l8ktp5e2dic/gbadm.wad?dl=1

Its it true that people can hack into dropbox or it is just a big ruse?

>>1903903

>>1903906

>>1903908

>>1903868

Why not?

why would people lie about btsx ep2 coming out....

>>1903914
>>1903908
>>1903906
>>1903903

Neeeeeeat.

So how many of you can beat Doom, Doom II, on Ultra-Violence or Nightmare using the original keyboard, non mouse bindings

>>1903932
I did. Not sure if I can anymore.

>>1903932
Well doom had mouselook soooooo

>>1903932
on UV? Probably, but It would take me a while.

>>1903935
It had mouse turning and mouse movement, not mouse look.

>>1903932
I can.
I can also do it with crummy controllers.

Vanilla Doom and Doom 2 aren't that difficult.
Fuck the Chasm though.

Back to Saturn X is a Guided by Voices album, is this a reference to it?

Where is back to saturn X ep 2 :(

>>1903914

>>1903959

>>1903953
Kind of.
http://doomwiki.org/wiki/Back_to_Saturn_X

>>1903953
each map is named after one of their songs

>>1903973
>btsx was originally released on December 10, 2012
Holy shit it was that long ago, and we are just now getting ep 2? Will it be another 2 years for ep 3?

>>1903985
I like to think they have been in simultaneous development. I don't know though.

>>1903985
>>1903991

remember, we are getting a PUBLIC BETA. and Episode 1 hasn't been officially finished yet.

I seriously don't want to be essel for the next two years

>>1903932
Better yet, how about beating Scythe 1 and 2 using keyboard only and no save scumming.

>>1903665
>One of the project members says when it's coming out
>Not a reliable word

How do you become a playtester?
Does being a playtester help you improve your mapping skills?

>>1904029
>How do you become a playtester?
Usually by asking or knowing a mod maker.
Or when someone is really nice they post the alpha to let people test.

>Does being a playtester help you improve your mapping skills?
Not in the slightest.
Just because you know how a level should be made or flow doesn't mean you'd know how to make a level yourself.

>>1904024
it's not that reliable a word in the sense that it has already been falsified (time is now after midnight EST i believe)

>>1904024
>>1904037

Tarnsman is known for being a dick sometimes.
Essel is pretty much nuclear right now, and giving word about something when you're the maintainer and op of the longest, most ambitious vanilla project going on at Doomworld is pretty much: "this is what will happen or fucking else"

with that being said

>"edit: lol delays. soon!"

Expect at least one head rolling in the next two weeks

>>1904039
oh yes i just saw the delays edit too.

>Tarnsman is known for being a dick sometimes.

are you suggesting that his leak of the project release date was not officially sanctioned?

>>1904039
>the longest, most ambitious vanilla project

Except for the 1994 Tune-Up Project.
:^)

>>1904052

Leaks are usually not officially sanctioned.

>>1904059
The leak was probably meant to drive up controversy and to hype it up

ITS READY

I think I found a bug in Demonsteele.

When killing the flying wizards with the back special they don't seem to leave behind any sort of corpse.
They just blink out of existance.

>>1904074

Fixed, thank you.

>>1904073
http://www.doomworld.com/vb/wads-mods/69960-back-to-saturn-x-episode-2-public-beta-1/

you could have at least posted a link

>>1904073
Terrible, doesn't work with Complex Brutal MM8DM support

>>1904080

yes, I would love to do ironic posts but unfortunately I got laid three years ago

no sexual contact since then ;-;

>captcha: ingratitude sedaydea

>>1904086
Really? You couldn't buy a second real doll?

>>1904090
I think welfare only goes so far, anon.

>>1903794
I have nothing to worry about.

>>1904090

No, they told me the mold bassed on ur mum's vajayjay broke and there's no way to create another one since she's loosen up so I'm pretty much fucked.

#rekt

>>1904079
hey, if you care enough
>>1903654

>>1904097
the adventures of square, too? is that newsworthy?
>>1903654

>>1904106
>the adventures of square, too?

well, it's a cartoony TC with some pretty goddamn rough levels full of snipers and fairly engaging gameplay, so I think it would be fair of mentioning it at least.

>>1904106

More than Plutonia 1024, thats for sure.

>>1903794
>>1903815

>>1904073
>>1904079
Yes.
YES!!!

So the main color of BTSX Ep2 is orange, huh?

Not compatible with gameplay mods, eh?
Well, guess I'll have to go vanilla.

Huge shame, though.

>>1904132

>playing something for the first time with mods

there's something a bit ironic in all of this but I can put my fingers on it...

>>1904132
>Playing modified on your first run

>>1904132
>calling zdoom without weapon mods "vanilla"

>>1904138
>doesn't have the Shrek Your Privileges at the end

>>1904137
>>1904139
>>1904141
ahahaha holy shit the knee-jerk anger

>>1904141

hi rjy how are you doin?

>>1904132
You kinda deserved that.

>>1904132
>Not compatible with gameplay mods
Well I ain't happy with this one bit.

>>1904143
I'm too lazy to replace all the Doomguy faces with the same pic, it's just a mock-up

>>1904146
hello, i'm just downloading btsx2.

So I have these custom sprites I did, they're basically custom deaths, how do I go into applying 'em in DECORATE? Do I need ACS too?

thanks in advance

>>1904137
>>1904139
>first run
I ran through the first three maps vanilla, you jumpy mexican beans. I just wanted to see how they'd react with certain mods.
If you want to get angry at something, fuck is that a sad thing to get angry over.

>>1904148
Blame the source ports for not remapping in RGB space the gameplay mod sprites to the new palette. This isn't BTSX's fault.

>>1904132
>>1904148
Damn, MSX and Ep1 was such a good combo...

>>1904153
i'm not angry, just disappointed

>>1904154

shh, you're giving 'em too much info. let this run for a month or so

>>1904149
Dude, there's an established Gone Home webm with Albino Shreks at the end/

>>1904158
If you want to get disappointed at something, fuck is that a sad thing to get disappointed over.

>>1904154
It's okay anon, I don't really mind that much.
I have a slightly modified vanilla weapon mod to play with.

It's Eriguns and the modification is Doomgirl

>>1904160
It wasn't about the gone homo wad, it was to test a mock-up HUD i did in 5 minutes.

>>1904154
yes i've been trying to convert my engine to 32bpp software and use rgb triples everywhere for a while now, but the game's pervasive use of colour palette indexes makes supporting non-standard colormaps problematic (either by replacement COLORMAP lumps, or using boom linedef 242). i don't think i'm even going to try doing boom tranmaps.

>>1904138

>>1904163
Oh, okay.

>>1904161
touché.

Guaranteed Cacoward.

Turns out the b wad loves to stop downloading halfway through.

>>1904152
Make a new DECORATE lump.
If you're making a .WAD, add your sprites in between S_START and S_END lumps. If it's a PK3, add it in the /sprites/ folder.

Sprite names go like this:
ABCDA0
The first four letters are the name you give the sprite. It can literally be anything. In this case, my name is ABCD. The fifth letter is its frame. This used to be hard-set in vanilla, but at this point DECORATE lets you use them whenever you want.
The last number is its angle. 0 means "It will always face the player". More on angles can be found here: http://zdoom.org/wiki/Sprite#Angles

In your DECORATE lump, add the following.

NewDeathImp : DoomImp replaces DoomImp
{
states
{
death:
IMPD A 2
IMPD B 2
IMPD C 2
IMPD D -1
}
}

The naming conventions in a DECORATE lump work like this.

The first four letters (before the space) are the name (same as the first four in the sprite filename). The next letter is its frame (A, B, C, D...) The number after that is how long it happens in tics. 2 means 2 tics, and -1 means forever. If you want the corpse to disappear when it's over, replace the last frame (the one with the -1) with the keyword "stop".

>>1904173
but it's all in one .zip?

>>1904173

It is two separate wads or something.
I'm lost too D:

>>1904132
>>1904156
>>1904173
Why is this specific tower in all the screenshots on here?

New server. Doom vacation.

/vr/ wahhhhsploosh

Pass: doomdudes i think.

>>1904187
it's the first thing you see when you enter map01

>>1904179
More about how the DECORATE naming works:
At the top you see where I put "NewDeathImp : DoomImp replaces DoomImp". This is what that means.
"NewDeathImp" is your new Thing's name, so feel free to replace that with whatever you want.
" : DoomImp" means to inherit the DoomImp class. This means that you make it the exact same as the class DoomImp. That's the internal name in zdoom.pk3 for the Doom Imp (obviously). " replaces DoomImp" means "Every instance of DoomImp that appears in the game should be this instead."

>>1904189

It's actually doomedguys.

>>1904186
vanilla uses a strange way to load a wad's directory that imposes a hard limit on the number of lumps in the wad (of something around 4000 iirc)

it's not necessary in source ports and you can catwad the two files together if you like (i haven't tried this yet, but i see no reason why it should be a problem for source ports that stopped using alloca in w_wad.c)

Be sure to load both WADs. Vanilla Doom has a lump limit and episode 2 exceed it so we had to split it into two WADs. You absolutely can run gameplay mods with BTSX but they must be loaded in the right order to avoid palette fuckery.

>>1904198
And this order is...?

>>1903903
The level of detail is appreciated

But for fuck's sake, unpeg the textures on those pillars so they match up, or throw in a border texture

>>1904203
it's either btsx then mod or mod then btsx. you've a 50% chance to guess correctly first time.

>>1904173
http://temp-host.com/download.php?file=er81xg

a mirror

>>1904203
Depends whose palette you want to fuck up. If you do BTSX first, the gameplay mod you use will use BTSX's palette, which only matters if it uses a paletted graphics format. (A lot don't.)

...I think.

>>1904203
>>1904212
Yeah basically. However if the sprites for the weapon mod or PNGs they should convert to BTSX's palette. Or you can just run it in OpenGL

>>1904206
...Right. Should have known that. Probably should get some sleep.

>>1903794
Totally fucked, not a chance in hell.

>>1904214
oh if only there was 32bpp software mode...

>>1904197
Thank you for informing me that this is a problem with the number of lumps IN A WAD, not altogether. I had feared my project might have to go limit removing because I have too many textures.

>>1904221
Software mode displays HUD sprites in truecolour in software now

>>1903794
a deep elf wizard in dungeon crawl stone soup. i guess it depends on what level i am and whether or not i can cast Firestorm yet.

>>1904212
>>1904214

....and you had to tell 'em

ah well, there it goes. everything must indeed come to an end

>>1904229
>Hurr let's not tell people how stuff works
literally why

>>1904231
If I had to guess, it's to keep the idiots who think the map should be tuned to their mod still flailing, trying to set it up. But now they know how.

>>1904232
But wouldn't it be better to stop the flailing right away rather than deal with WOW THIS MOD SUX ITS BROKKEN

>>1904198
I was actually wondering why it was split into an A and B.

Also I like to play levelsets vanilla first so I can appreciate the design as intended before changing it up entirely with Hideous Destructor

>>1904235

we would have some pretty good giggleloos; you know, like the ones that are to be expected when you load up two certain gameplay mods which have no business being loaded up at the same time

>>1904245
>Two gameplay mods at the same time
but no one did that

>>1904248

not today, of course. it has happened weeks, months ago.

not going into details because it might lead people doing it on purpose

>>1904229
>>1904235
>>1904245
>>1904250
itt: It's better to be a grognard and not tell people how shit works because of something that happened months ago that I didn't agree with.

I really like BTSX2 so far.

It is very fun.

How many levels is there total?

>The Adventures of Square's unexpected release
>BTSX's second Episode's beta also fucking unleashed after weeks of expectation
>Yet another Plutonia wad for the h4rdc0r3 Doom audience
>People finding obscure wads from Tom Mustaine and discovering TWO doom2.exe bugs in matter of DAYS
>Rideable bikes, pinkys and cacos

This fucking week, man. This fucking week.

>>1904265
Too bad that last one isn't that good

>MAP01's music

I know this from somewhere else...any help?

>>1904271
Hanger 18 by Megadeth?

>>1904263
it goes up to map26 according to the text file

* Map listing *

--- EPISODE II: Tower in the Fountain of Sparks ---------------------------

01 Joshy/Esselfortium/dew: Shadow Port
02 Tango: Underwater Explosions
03 Brad Spencer/Xaser: Wings of Thorn
04 Use3d/Tarnsman: Dirty Water

05 Xaser: Episode Hub

06 Vader: Useless Inventions
07 The Green Herring: Shrine To The Dynamic Years (Athens Time Change Riots)
08 Matt Tropiano/Tarnsman: A Blue Shadow
09 DeathevokatioN/Esselfortium: Adverse Wind
10 Esselfortium: Eureka Signs

11 Xaser: Episode Hub

12 Skillsaw: Demons Are Real
13 Jimmy/Tarnsman: Nation Gone Dry
14 Mechadon/Vader: Shocker in Gloomtown
15 Vader: The Theory of Broken Circles

16 Xaser: Episode Hub

17 Xaser: Steeple of Knives
18 Skillsaw: Optional Bases Opposed
19 Tarnsman: Unbaited Vicar of Scorched Earth
20 Tarnsman/Esselfortium: Speedtraps for the Bee Kingdom
21 Khorus/Esselfortium: Bulldog Skin
22 RottKing: Bite

23 Xaser: Episode Hub

24 Tarnsman: Perhaps Now the Vultures
25 Mechadon: Unstable Journey
26 Xaser: Beneath A Festering Moon

Secret
31 Joshy/Esselfortium/dew: Fireking Says No Cheating

>>1904271
>>1904282

Heh, I was talking about BTSX's Ep2

>>1903794
Phoenix Wright vs Professor Layton

Well Layton can puzzle open keycard mazes and Phoenix can bullshit his way out of trouble, I guess?

1. heh
2. heh again, also secret plasma gun yay. that i didn't need to use, but oh well.
3. oh i seem to have missed some stuff. actually come to think of it i had a blue key that didn't fit any doors i saw.

i'll have to do it again anyway because i died at one point. the first third to half of the map has a paucity of health and ammunition.

>>1904295
1,2,3. okay i reloaded and turned the map cheat on. what the heck!
4. ouch!

How can I get Chocolate Doom to run two wad files at once? My levelset is split into two files right now (the maps and the textures) and I don't want to go through the hassle of merging them just to get it to work.

I tried just doing two -file parameters in a shortcut/batch file but that didn't work

>>1904302
you dont do -file twice. you do -file file1.wad file2.wad

it's a bit strange, it takes every argument after -file that doesn't begin with - as a filename. or something.

>>1904308
Thanks, that...sort of helped

Now it just runs like absolute shit on even the first map, and crashes on others. The first map is no bigger or more complex than E1M1, so I dunno what the deal is

I can barely bring up the menu, and the sound is just a constant stuttering mess. Normal choco doesn't run like this so I dunno what the deal is

>>1904315
the medusa effect? do you have middle textures made up of more than one patch?

>>1904319
I doubt it, I haven't made any new textures, just added two existing texture packs together. If there are any, I doubt I've used them.

These are only problems I'm having in choco, too, they don't crop up in say, PRBoom+, which is making me consider moving the project to limit removing and surpassing this bullshit

>>1904325
>I haven't made any new textures
yes but have you in your map placed a texture made of more than one patch on a two-sided middle texture?

Ehhhhhhhhhhhhh. Was I expecting a room full of spooky scary skellys? No, no I wasn't.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9n4YVBYh8zA

>>1904329
MAYBE in map03 but this shit is happening in my map 1 and 2 too. I don't think it's caused by that. This is something else

>>1904132
Wait wat? Does that mean it won't run properly with AtM?

>>1904383
It does.

AtM would even run without flaws regardless of load order because it doesn't touch palettes in the slightest.

BTSX needs to load after whatever gameplay mod you choose.

>>1904268
>ridable caco
>not the best thing to ever have happened
I want a Zandronum multiplayer wad where you joust on cacos

:(

>>1903794
Richter Belmont (Rondo of Blood)

Should fare well.

Back To Saturn X Episode 2 ?!

Oh boy, I'm torn between playing the beta or waiting for the final...

>>1904472
Are you still waiting for E1?

>>1904476
Good point... It says to load both wads at once, how does one do that? Just select both and drag?

>>1904138
You know, with the whole gamergate thing I'm really surprised nobody's thought to make an E3M5 tribute called the Cathedral of Misogyny yet.

>>1903794

The commander from Xcom.

Well, time to send some rookis to their death.

>>1904482
>how does one do that? Just select both and drag?

the loading order is wad A, then B, then the DEH file

>>1904482
I'd just get ZDL then set that up.

Then you can just choose the load order and you're good to go.

>>1903794
I don't even know who is fucked.

>>1904512
heh heh, that's exactly what I was thinking when I saw that.

"man, that sounds like a good Doom level"

OC donut steel

>>1904563

heheheheheh

So I was playing Demonsteele with Zpack and in E1M2 I tried to walk over one of those fake bridges but it was completely impossible.

A complete impenetrable wall.
Is it two scripts clashing or something?

It happened in BTSX2's Map05c as well but I am thinking I tried to go under a bridge I shouldn't have.

>>1904563
>Archvis
I vote "Beaville"

>>1904563
:)

>>1904295
>Visplane Overflow
premium kek

>>1904295

let me guess, there's one secret unable to reach unless you do a glide

I love how BTSX Ep2 feels like Doom 64 in a sense. The heavy use of water + hellish structures really remind me of that game. Playing with the PSX sounds probably has an impact as well.
The third map is my favorite so far. Fucking solid.

>>1904265

And yet we still managed to let the thread 404.

>>1904265
>>People finding obscure wads from Tom Mustaine and discovering TWO doom2.exe bugs in matter of DAYS

Wait what

i want to ride cacos

Is it out yet? I have to sleep soon and I need a taste.

Why was nothing done with this amazing metroid mod?

It's got everything except it only has a shit demo level with no enemies.

This would be fucking amazing as a full mod.

I'm playing doom 2 on nightmare mode with it right now and holy fuck.

>>1904713
If I remember correctly, there was a shit-ton of work done on it. Things like new maps and other stuff, but the guy working on it lost all the data.

Don't quote me on that, though.

>>1904720
Lost the data is code for got bored/not motivated and don't care anymore.

>>1904726
If I remember correctly, he got quite a bit done. I think there were screenshots of all kinds of things and just got really burned out after it was all lost.

>>1904726
I know the guy, he did actually lose all his data.

>>1904731
>>1904730
>>1904726
>>1904720
You guys mean Terminus?
Doesnt he usually use github to maintin code and graphics?

>>1904713
The creator of the mod got a warning from Nintendo, So he has to be careful of how far he takes this mod, or something like that. Don't qoute me on this, but I guess that's why no levels and stuff have been made yet.

>>1904638
nope, although the thing you actually need the blue key for (which isn't a secret) was a bit obscure (see >>1904301)

>>1904726
>Lost the data is code for got bored/not motivated and don't care anymore.
The mod looks and feels fucking awesome, why would he get bored with it.

>>1904734
>The creator of the mod got a warning from Nintendo
No fucking way.

People make shitty mario mods all the time.

He's not selling it or anything.

>>1904734
>>1904758
As far as I know it was just a "don't pretend this is official or try to make money with it" letter.

>>1904713
>nothing done

Heh.
Yeah. Nothing. Nope. Nothing at all.

>tfw you will never make a noteworthy wad

>>1904758
Nintendo is super-protective of their franchise's image, and anything that portrays them in an overly violent way - even Metroid - is going to get some bigwigs worrying. it's cult of personality, i guess, although that maybe seems a little too sinister.

>>1904802
realistically, how hard is it? you don't even need to code to get the basics in place. just make your house, enlarge every room by about 10x, add some monsters/keys/doors and you're done. it's only uphill from there.

Anyone who can recommend any .wads, preferably multiple levels, with lots of outdoorsy, natural environments, plains, marshes, mountains, hills, caves, forests, maybe some old ruins too or something?

I'm thinking large, wide and decently detailed maps.
Alternatively, I played these huge fucking maps this summer made by some slav, pic related, and they had an insanely delightful bleak and hopeless feeling atmosphere, if anyone knows anything of that sort.

>>1904805
>make your house
Do you really think I'm going to resort to lazily designed realistic levels? With toilets?

BTSX e2's music is great. I've only heard a bit of the first track, but it's all great.

>>1904808
Make an entire level out of toilets.

>>1904808
i meant the basic geometry of your house, not the specifics you silly billy.

but now that you've mentioned an Outhouse Slaughterhouse i kinda want to play that
alpha when

>>1904803
>>1904774
>>1904758
>>1904734

Yes, I got a note from Nintendo. No, it's not a warning about how I should cease development. It was an automated "yo we can't officially approve of this" thing.
Pic related.

>>1904713
>Why was nothing done

Heeehhh, I like you. You're silly.

>>1904754
>>1904734
>>1904732
>>1904731
>>1904730
>>1904726
>>1904720

The code for Breadnut is still intact and not in any danger of being lost.
One of the mappers lost all of the data on the map he was making in a harddrive failure. I still have the latest iteration of the map he was making, but it's only about a third of the way done and I sincerely doubt he's interested in picking it up again.
A shame, but it can't be herped.

>>1904806
Sgt. Mark IV's After The Holocaust is pretty good.

>>1904827
I played it, and it's a nice map, but I'm thinking less city maps (though I love exploring dark derelict apartment complexes full of monsters).

Though ATH was pretty damn laggy for me to play as well.

>>1904827
what the fuck are your settings? You can't see shit and it looks like shit

>>1904827
Holy supergamma, Batman!

>>1904827
>doomworld_gfx_settings.jpg

>>1904820
THANKS FOR REPLYING

That sucks though, did you at least design any metroid monsters?

Hosting WoC on BTSX and BTSX2, for anyone that cares to come join.

BTSX server: "/vr/ plays Dungeons and Dragons!"
BTSX2 server: "/vr/ plays Dungeons and Dragons: Spelljammer!"
Password: vrtroopers

Just finished BTSX E2 on UV. Pretty disappointing, to say the least. Map design felt like it took a huge step backwards, music was alright but it (and the wad as a whole) felt more like a quake track than a doom one. I know they mentioned it and they were going for a more surreal/gothic approach with episode 2, but it just doesn't fit for doom. The first few maps are agonizingly slow. Not overly large, because compared to other BTSX maps they're just average sized, but going through them is a pain in the ass. There was an issue with map 10 where the mapper put in a really stupid platforming section that took minutes to get past for no real reason other than the elevators moving slow as fuck. It would be a bad puzzle in any other game, and it has no place in Doom of all places. A few maps also have really obnoxious triggers or switches that are hidden in the dumbest of places. Episode 1 had some obtuse maps but for the most part it was a good wad. The shit in episode 2 is just aggravating.

Fortunately the second half gets a little better, it has some really fun maps with good pacing, right up until you hit the 800 monster map. Took me an hour to clear it out and had a lot of the same problems earlier maps did with awkwardly placed switches.

Overall it's not terrible, but it's nowhere near as good as episode 1 was. Maybe I was expecting too much - I think that if you were to play E1 for the first time, then follow with E2 and eventually E3, it'd come together better.

>>1904850

Design? Yes, I've got code for a good chunk of Metroid enemies lying here, waiting to be used.
But, unfortunately, I'm not an artist and they would require making completely custom sprites in order to do. None of the artists I've asked so far have actually finished any. I have a ton of half-finished concepts, half-baked sprites, and single-frame enemies.

>>1904871
>I'm not an artist
who designed samus's guns and the ui?

>>1904865
>right up until you hit the 800 monster map. Took me an hour to clear it out and had a lot of the same problems earlier maps did with awkwardly placed switches.

There isn't a ton of this I hope? This crap got too much in the Scythe wads.

>>1904893
There's only the one 800 monster map, but most maps average about 300-400 monsters to start out with, not counting pain elementals and arch viles (and there are a LOT of arch viles. episode 1 was sparse compared to what episode 2 has. There's even a map dedicated to arch viles, which is about as fun as it sounds).

There are also a few smaller maps, sitting around 100-150 monsters and one or two with sub 100. Some of the later levels were actually really fun even if they had 300 monsters in them, but almost all of the first 12 or so maps I just couldn't stand. Especially with arch vile placement. It's not fun when you have to reload a save before spawning an arch vile and hope you can kill it or get pain chances before it tears you a new asshole, because there is nowhere to hide behind a wall. That is not good level design, and it happens WAY too fucking much.

>>1904903
Have you tried playing on HMP?

>>1904904
I only tried on UV. Maybe HMP would have been a better experience but I personally think most mappers these days expect people to play on UV and create the maps around that. UV for episode 1 was fine, especially since most maps were about 10-15 minutes in that wad and they didn't pull the same bullshit I've said about episode 2. I'd say the map lengths stretch to about 25-30 minutes per map in E2, which seems great except it stems more from harsher ammo/health management (I think it was around map 12 before I got my first backpack?) and way too many fucking AVs/revenant packs. I had to play a lot slower, but I didn't want to choose a lower difficulty level in hopes it would get better. It did, but it never got good enough to redeem the shitty first half.

>>1904903
>There's even a map dedicated to arch viles, which is about as fun as it sounds).
Well that one arch vile map in Doom II I believe was pretty fun. The maze map.

>It's not fun when you have to reload a save before spawning an arch vile and hope you can kill it or get pain chances before it tears you a new asshole, because there is nowhere to hide behind a wall. That is not good level design, and it happens WAY too fucking much.
Yeah completely agree here.

>>1904908
For lower skill settings, rather than just reducing the monster count across the board (which just results in boring, empty maps) we primarily concentrated on adjusting the most pressuring parts of fights (i.e. archviles), whether by replacing/removing strategic monsters or adding extra supplies. UV is designed to be hard -- the lower skills are there for a reason.

>>1904890

Zrrion and Mike12, respectively.

BTSX2 is disappointing. It's clear they wanted to get away from the techbases of the first episode and do something else but it's also clear they had no idea what that something was. There's a bit of Doom, a bit of Heretic/Hexen, some Duke and even a touch of ROTT here and there but there's no cohesion to the whole experience and the level design has more bad than good to it. Want huge sprawling outdoor areas? You got it. Want to know what that button did? Too bad, have more teleporting monsters than Doom 64.

I will say that some of the maps have absolutely gorgeous set pieces and areas. When they wanted to, they really made that old engine shine.

>>1904812

I approve of this.

>>1904073
>>1904079
HAHA
TIME FOR PROJECT MSX

>>1904918
Actually, E2 and E1 were developed concurrently. E2 was at least 70% done before E1's first public beta came out.

>>1904923
E1 probably got more love because E2 just ain't fun to play.

>>1904909
That was plutonia, and Hunted was a better map than the one in BTSXe2.

There's one point where you teleport into the middle of a room with 3-4 archviles respawning a host of revenants, mancubi, and other shit. Then you get onto an elevator where other arch viles are doing the same shit and try to run past them quick enough to get out of their range. I think I had to reload a save over thirty times to get past that one room. It's not fun there's no way to fight them because there's no places to hide and you don't have the ammo to kill them all anyways, and it's just a crapshoot on whether you can get out.

>>1904913
Being hard is different from being stupid. Episode one UV is great, it's pretty difficult but doesn't bullshit you by teleporting you into the middle of multiple arch viles. Stripping resources away can be good too, I liked the first map for the most part and it was halfway a berserk map. But there were only a few points where I felt I had complete control over a group of enemies. Usually I was stuck behind a wall popping out to shoot some enemies then hiding when four rockets came my way. Or swearing because there's yet more arch viles right on top of me and the only thing I can do is pray for good luck.

>>1904812
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=npEwra5344s

>>1904865
the whole thing, already? wow

So btsxE2 suffers from the affliction of sequels never being as good the original? I want to try it anyway.

>>1904962
Yeah must have been pretty exciting times to keep him interested the entire way through. Oh wait.

>>1904990
that's not what i meant :(

i mean so far i have spent 1 hour carefully playing map01 twice, does no one else savour new maps? or do you just play everything as fast as possible and move on to the next thing?

>>1904927

Sounds like you need to play better. Or you know, try a lower difficulty. it's what they're there for.

>>1905013
Sure, completely ignore what that guy you're quoting just said.
Yep.

breasts

>>1905014
Sure, completely ignore non-UV settings and then complain about the difficulty.

>>1905024
Not any of them but I'm >>1904918 and played through on TYTD because I'm a bitch who just wanted to check out the level design.

The difficulty is just as bullshit.

Only played 4 of 5 levels so far but I'm enjoying it a lot. I've absolutely loved this level (pic related). Well, not so much the layout because in the end it felt way too much (and there was a WHOLE part I hadn't visited when meeting the ending), I mean I didn't get lost and it was obvious what the buttons did; but there was a whole part of the map (with the grey textures) that not only didn't add anything to the map, but also felt completely out of place. But anyway, I love the map for its theme and textures, this is exactly the kind of theme I would like to do in a FPS.

The best thing about the wad so far though was the weapon progression at the beginning.
There is a slow build up that starts with the barefists and I only got the shotgun after what felt like a long enough time, which made things even better.
However I was pretty disapointed to find the super shotgun so quickly (in the next map I think ?). The double barrel shotgun singlehandely changes how Doom plays and you know it; and suddenly, as soon as you have it, you start facing bigger waves of enemies. After such a great build up at the start, I was expecting things to keep this way for a longer time; and having several maps without the double barrel shotgun would have fit with that slow progression and would have been a welcome change of pace as far as Doom 2 megawads are concerned (out of 27 maps, 4 or 5 maps without it would have been fine).

I also enjoyed the map in pic related due to how Plasma gun oriented it was. That too was felt like a fresh take on gameplay to me.

>>1904986
Has there ever been an Aliens style sequel to a Doom mod?

>>1903932
I do that in ChocoDooom routinely as a kind of cleansing when I'm suffering from mod fatigue.

>>1903754
Shun Kodori
The thread 404'd for possibly the first time in its history
Seems to have went down earlier, but it's now back up.

>>1905187
Not the only one suffering from this; threads in /v/ suffered from this too

think it has to do with a certain event happening related to a big ass leak

Just gonna put this here

>>1905204
>REVENANT ISN'T WEARING A GREY SHIRT AND RED PANTS
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
Are red pants and grey shirts possible with the Mii creator?

>>1905217
Actually, the closest I've gotten in Tomodachi Life is a white shirt and red camo pants

why did this thing just say the thread had been pruned or deleted briefly
did anyone else see this or am i going mad

>>1905223
You've been taken too many berserk packs I'm afraid.

>>1905218
oh wait.. there isnt any red camopants.. my bad. Brown ones will have to do.

>>1905225
yeah i'm just going mad. deleting posts. sorry

>>1905224
haha are those water bottles on the shoulders

>>1905238
It happened to me too. Not only on /vr/.

>>1905197
It 404'd before the site started going weird.

>>1905054
It's better with pistol starts. Also, E1 had SSG in map01 (in MP, heh).
I'm playing this thing on UV w/ pistol starts on every level and I like it so far (currently at map11). There's no complete pushovers yet and I can honestly say that every death I've scored here is completely my mistake. Though I'm feeling it's design is going to bore somewhere half way through because it's going to be 25 (?) castles.

>>1905239
yup

>>1905268
oh yes i remember the ssg on btsx_e1 map01, it was a quite well hidden secret and set off a teleporter trap that was way more fierce than the whole of the rest of the level. i enjoyed that

>>1905273
Useless Sexy Baron

If you could experience any of the Brutal Doom fatalities for yourself (human-on-monster or monster-on-human), which one would you pick? I'm kind of leaning towards being slowly ripped in half by a baron, but having an imp pounce on me and stab me over and over could be exciting too.

Do you like custom music, /doom/?

>>1905304
you're a creepy fuck

>>1905304
>>>/Gurochan/>>

Doomero does the craziest shit
http://youtu.be/aJ1O3lmJItQ

>>1905325
Doomero and LilWhitemouse do all sorts of crazy crap with the Doom Engine.

You'll never know what they might come up with next

>>1905325

>>1905325
that must play like shit.

>>1905268
>It's better with pistol starts

Yeah, but since it's an episode and not a mappack and there was nothing telling that the maps could be played from pistol start, I didn't try that way.
But anyway - it's not a "map pack", it's an episode, so continuity and progression must have been taken into account with and without pistol starts.

>>1904802

>tfw i could have made a noteworthy wad
>tfw i was making the metroid map
>tfw my HDD took a shit
>tfw i forgot to backup

I hated myself since then

>>1904113
i chuckled.

Been loving the shit out of Reelism lately, but what the heck is this music? It's killing me to find out. It only ever plays when the result screen comes up if you die. I know a lot of the other tracks.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=jsowRuWuB4c#t=198

>>1905359
Have you resumed working on it?

From what I played of your Metroid map, you have the chops to make pretty fun levels regardless of what mod it would be for.

On an unrelated note, I really like BTSX2's music.

>>1903932
>the original keyboard, non mouse bindings

i get you don't like mouselook, but for clispaeth's sake quit insisting nobody ever used a mouse when the game came out. see pic related? taken when doom was still in development.

I'm a little lost. I'm coming to you all, thinking you can help.

I know this is the wrong place to talk about such things, but since this thread is somewhat related to what I'm looking for, I might as well give it a try.

What happened to the Doom wad development thread that used to be posted in /mlp/? I keep looking for it, but its never there

>>1904563
>>1904568

Uhhuhuh. Bone. Huhuhuh

Mnehehenh, yeah me too

Is there a way to put the player upside down in the ceiling?

>>1904563
He he he he. Beavis, check out my bone.
Uh huhu hu. Butthead, you dumbass. You're all bone.
Oh yeah. Hehehehe

>>1905380
I thought keyboards back then were required by law to be beige.

>>1905408

I've been here since the beginning of /doom/ and there's only been a few faint rumbles of what an /mlp/ wad would be like.
I suspect most of the people who were interested in working on it kept quiet and posted about it only there.

Considering the reaction even a Scootaloo rip and tear edit had in the shitty rip and tear edit compilation, I wouldn't be surprised if a themed mod would have set off fucking wildfires.

>>1905426
I think there was as tech demo on the Zdoom Forums doing that. Kind of a flipping system like VVVVVV.

>>1905380
He never did.
He just asked if anybody other than him and me ;_; ever still play with the default bindings.

He never said he didn't like mouselook and he never said nobody ever rebound keys. Stop bogeymanning.

>>1905431
that is a cute gif

>people using mouselook
omg I've been triggered

>new Demonsteel enemy
>replaces Pain Elemental
>neat, those guys were complete fuckheads
>head up to The Pit
>THESE GUYS ARE EVEN WORSE
>MOVE FASTER
>STRAFE
>REVIVE ENEMIES WHILE FLYING LIKE A JETPACK ARCHVILE
>TELEPORTS AWAY WHEN IN PAIN
>GOES GHOST EVERY NOW AND THEN SO BULLETS PASS RIGHT THROUGH IT
>SHOOT TWO SOULS AT ONCE
>SOULS FADE IN AND OUT OF VISIBILITY

TERMINUS
YOU GOT SOME FUCKING SPLAINING TO DO

>>1905431
>shitty rip and tear
Ok, which one are NOT funny? And WHY aren't they?
If you do not have any well formed argument, I suggest you commit sudoku.

>>1905432
I want to know more.

>>1905445
Replace where? What mod?

Any way to set up a certain kind/family of monsters to be hostile against other race/family of monsters?

For example, Cacodemons against Barons, I want 'em to be hostile against each other whenever they spot each other

How do I go into that, do I need ACS or Decorate?

>>1905454
https://github.com/TerminusEst13/Folded1000Times

>>1905449
Yours is incomplete, and I too would like to know which ones aren't funny/good and why not

>>1905372
Well it sounds like SNES music most certainly. The Reelism devs should really put a list of the music they used somewhere.

What do you guys think of this?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vm_MFauHzdo

Do NOT respond to the "rip and tear" posts.
They are made by the one and only /doom/ shitposter to cause a flamewar.

...and do not respond to the Masterchief one

I'm a lazy motherfucker. Is there just a gallery of all the H-Doom stuff?

>this map

I love it.

>>1905449
>>1905460
>Ok, which one are NOT funny?
Almost of them.

>And WHY aren't they?
Too many of them suffer from having either a terribly forced meme ham-handed into them with only vaguely-related terms ("Inhale and spit", "yank and split", "slash and explode", etc).
A ton of them have cringe-inducing art and/or were saved as jpeg (the Quaker Oats one, that god-awful edit of the Samus one with even more god-awful text, the side of the Chex one having a random extra panel, the Witchhaven shading is fucking embarrassing).
Nobody has any sort of fucking quality control, with one side accepting any edit that's only vaguely related and looks somewhat similar and the other side only accepts an arbitrary amount. When pressed on this, the only response I got was "let's fill the thing out first and then we can focus on what to trim" yeah well the thing's already been fucking filled out and expanded and now it's even worse.

It's magnificent at demonstrating how quickly you can run an okay copypasta into the fucking dirt, but aside from that it has no worth or value or relevance.

And this is coming from someone who contributed several, which I wholeheartedly regret now.

>>1905460
>Mask... Gloves... SCALPEL!

>>1905460
>>1905449
Holy shit, why are there so many?
Anyways, I read them all and they're okay, I think the focus is on the image itself.
The only one I dont get is the Corvus one.
>Yank and split
wat

>>1905481
As the guy who did the original CQ one (which prompted the creation of the template by some other cool anon), I did the extra panel because, well, there wasn't a template or any sense of "rules" at the time of its creation. I went for completeness (it was based directly off of the comic itself) instead of simplicity.

>>1905489
That one has different dialogue than the one I have. Want me to replace it with this one?

captcha: 420

>>1905481
I made 26 of the 62 RIP AND TEAR pictures (just look for the ones with the Segoe Print font / just look for the images with similiar font).
I love to create the images but I cant sometimes think of a proper quote and just slap it into the speech bubbles, so I tested two times if /doom/ can think of a proper quote and they did, so I guess Im just a lazy cunt.
sorry, but they are still funy, fucker

>>1905491
>>1905489
I was the anon who did the "Spoon and Zorch your Flems" edit.

>>1905492
>26
*22, sorry

>>1905481
Dude, that's just, for lack of a better word, a meme.
There's an exploitable and it's easy to edit. They are what they are, and they are silly. Nothing more nor less.
They aren't meant to be the funniest thing ever., people just make use of the template to create their own version, based on something they like besides doom.

>>1905491
Whatever you want man. Don't let me tell you how to enjoy your jokes.
I'm not sure why that guy did that edit though. It's kind of a stupid one anyway.

>>1905481
Do you really expect to look at an edited image macro and burst out in laughter?
Do you have by any chance autism?

>>1905492
>Tell me why they are shit
>This is why they are shit
>sorry, but they are still funy, fucker
I knew discussing this with you would be fruitless.

>>1905502
No? Why would you think that anyone's reaction to an edit would be that?

>>1905481
I did the Quaker Oats one as a joke based upon something I said off hand in a Doom match with some /vr/ folks one day.

I had more detail on it that ended up looking like shit once I went to its default size and saved it.

>>1905504
>I knew discussing this with you would be fruitless.
Do you even reading comprehension?
I was talking about the images.

>>1905507
He didn't reply to the post where you mentioned that. ( >>1905484 )

>>1905507
Coincidentally, so was I.

>>1904132
>MFW BDSE doesn't seem to mind it at all
The water's static, and some imps have purple specks in their teeth if your get really close, but that's about it so far.

Just in case anyone missed it.

>>1905513
>>1905512
>>1905507
>>1905504
>>1905502
>>1905501
>>1905498
>>1905497
>>1905496
>>1905492
>>1905491
>>1905489
>>1905484
>>1905481
I'm certain you guys suffer from an incurable disease, that forces you to shit yourselves over tiny image macros. It is called aspergers.

>>1905534
Hey man, my posts were about enjoying them and attempting to clarify another person's post.
>>1905512
>>1905501

>>1905534
Okay then, so which one of them is Omegalore?

>>1905534
You have made yourself clear.

>>1905538

No, no, see, in /doom/ we accuse people of being Donald or IMX because

>>1905372
its don't cry Jennifer, from the original clock tower
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-WxrXvDdKuw

Just so you know, I knew who you were from that first post alone. Thanks for exposing yourself with those pictures.

>>1905534
I actually like them, dunno what you're going on about.

>>1905532
If you look at it sideways, it looks like an eskimo with an upside-down cock.
but otherwise it just looks like a cock and balls.

>>1905480
What wad?

>>1905542
>Donald or IMX
Who? Is this IRC drama I should know about?

MODS PLS WAKE THE FUCK UP YOU FUCKING /v/IRGIN SUBHUMAN NIGGERS

>>1905549

No, it's not IRC drama, it's just two nerds who did an oopsie once or twice and now everyone clamors over each other trying to accuse everyone of being them.

>>1905556

well, to be fair, imx never tried to brick everyone's PC by saturating them with zombiemen, so there's that.

Are there any maps that aren't impossible with Hideous Destructor?

So, I found a bug in BTSXep2.
It's pretty minor, the selection glow that you get when you go into the options in PrBoom+ doesn't appear.

>>1905556
Alright, thanks. Looked up their names in the archive, wtf....200 posts mentioning IMX and 400 posts Donald.
How come I have never heard of them? I've been here since July.

Does anyone else think Jim Carrey might be a JIDF shill?

>>1905579
Go away /pol/, you are drunk.

>>1903932
>So how many of you can beat Doom, Doom II, on Ultra-Violence
Sure I can and did beat all of th-
>using the original keyboard
awww... I only did beat Doom1 with k-board only. and I guess I did Doom2 back in the day but it was in ITYTD difficulty, I was young...

>>1905575

Mostly because they're nobodies. We have amateur internet detective sleuths who keep trying to pretend they're someone special and we need to either ban all mentions of their name/figure out what really happened to them, but they really aren't. They're just two tripfags with emphasis on the fag.
They made some stuff, it wasn't that great, they did some stuff, wasn't that special, they vanished. But because they were tripfags, some people latched on to them.

Even now, you can see some people
>>1905579
>>1905554
incredibly angry and trying to invoke the mods because they were mentioned.

>>1905584

ah, so we pullin a chris benoit on them? got the memo

When making a level, should the designer build the basic map with architecture first, or the basic map with monsters first?

>>1905592
>>1905584
IMX used to make the threads.

He's also still around on the Zdoom forums. I dunno what the big deal is

>>1905598
>>1905598
>I dunno what the big deal is

he did a bad thing, so we must hate him forever and ever.

he never existed, ever ever ever. as a matter of fact who are you talking about?

>>1905595
Monsters obviously.
But you should have a basic concept before placing monsters like "hellish map with many fatsos" etc.
Once the monsters are placed, add detail to the maps and try to increase the difficulty by playing around with the room architecture (add pillars, change the shape, add pits etc.)

>>1905325
>>1905328
>lilwhitemouse
someone tell that lovable gal to please get back on bitter.wad or remake it somehow

Sorta off topic, but are any of you guys having issues posting right now?

>>1905625
no

>>1905625

If you use 4chanx, you probably have troubles.
Disable greasemonkey for now.

To be fair, I dislike IMX purely for the fact that he has an overall shit attitude in anything I see him post.

A good indicator of his horridity is that the first thing he did when he came to these threads is asking for help on making Gone Homo.

>>1903794
>Male Nord Dragonborn with Blackswordsman armor and Dragonslayer sword
Dis gonna be gud

How the hell are you supposed to deal with the second level of Back to Saturn Ex ep 2? Its in some sort of ruins with explosive barrels all over. There is hardly any ammo and you are constantly encountering revenants, archville and mancubus. Halp

>>1905683
You have to manage the barrels wisely.

So while I'm certain as to what I'm gonna do with almost all of the monsters on GMOTA. I have no idea what to do with cacodemons and pain elementals/lost souls

Any ideas?

So with Demonsteele are the zombies and their laser guns placeholders?

Seems weird to see a pump action shotgun going pew pew pew

>>1905696
Could always make Cacodemons more aggressive and Pain Elementals shoot spreads of shots like airborne Mancubi if you didn't want them having Lost Souls anymore.

>>1905480
>>1905548
Seconding this. I need a new wad to play.

Is it just me, or BTSX2 is heavily leaned towards speedrunning? I mean, berserk pack and nothing but imps and pinkys at the beginning?

>>1905625

same here; talk about paying the price of other people's fuck ups

>captcha: resolved arshipse

>>1905714
Seriously guys? Come on. It's Back to Saturn X Episode 2. You know, came out yesterday, the whole thread is talking about it?

TERMINUS EXPLAIN THIS SHIT

>>1905721
They're kinda tough on the hidden difficulty.

>>1905721

nice lost soul replacements, where do they come from?

>>1905718
I'd imagine speedrunning BTSX2 is probably about as fun as shoving rusty nails into your hands.

>>1905725

believe it or not, trial-and-error is considered by some people as good level design

same goes with monsters inside secrets. "ah, you just got extra ammo and a soulsphere? here, more high tier demons"

>>1905709

I want to keep the general roles for my monster replacements. And pain elementals main gimmick is being a mobile monster spewing meatball.

... How about some kinda floating ghost that throws sentient possessed swords that fly around and try to cut your face off? There's a floating scimitar in realm667

>>1905728
Monsters inside secrets are fine.

Parts of the game being a coin flip on whether you can make it through or not, that just boil down to reloading a save until you live - those are not good level design and awful for speedrunning.

>>1905724
Looks like something out of Blood

>>1905696

Wizards and flying demons, of course. Red Arremar is mandatory.

>>1905709

The guns might be placeholders, but the lasers and zombies are not. Mike's done a whole ton of custom deaths for them, I'd really rather not toss all that down the drain.

>>1905721

HAVE FUN, FUCKER

>>1905724

Blood.

>>1905737

>red arremer

Jesus Christ how horrifying

We need to make it happen guys. NEED

>>1905737
>The guns might be placeholders, but the lasers and zombies are not. Mike's done a whole ton of custom deaths for them, I'd really rather not toss all that down the drain.

I was just wondering.
Lasers really need a different sound though, way too Star Wars.

Okay so.

How about this: a red arremer style enemy to replace the caco

And a blademancer for the pain elemental. A wizard dude who'll throw sentient scimitars, and other blades and pointy objects

>>1905721
These guys are honestly pretty fucking annoying. They just keep spewing and spewing and spewing lost souls without stopping. If you retreat for more than a few seconds to get health or whatever, they'll have spewed out dozens.

>>1905749
That would probably work out okay.

Red Arremers might be annoying in huge droves though.

>>1905696
If I remember correctly you were taking some inspiration from Shadow Over Mystara? Cacos would be great to see as Beholders firing off eye rays and shit

>>1905543
The music after the guitar sting (though this is the one with that), the Earthbound kinda thing, though I know it's not Earthbound.

>>1904315
It's a bug in the Chocolate Doom music code that only got fixed recently. Switch to Native MIDI in the setup tool and it won't stutter any more.

So can Revenants in Demonsteele have a slight pause at the start of their neverending firing?

Many times I have opened a door and a Revenant missile was already traveling into my face since they start firing the second they spot my feet.

It's a bit annoying.

I'm playing TNT for the first time. What the hell was Habitat?

>>1905696

this guy would work like a normal caco, but at 800~ units he would speed up and
start using his slash projectile (50~units wide hitbox, that travels at higher speed) and maybe strafe dash? or even do a charge attack!

replace pain elementals with hexen/heretic style necro-wizard who switches between summoning lost souls and firing homing screaming skull in flames which deals same damage as baron-projectile but can be killed mid-air... maybe have him teleport when struck in melee for total annoyance!

>start a new DoomRL Arsenal game
>choose Scout because I haven't actually finished a game with it
>Handcannon drop in the first map
>Uzi in a box in the third map
dis gon be gud

>>1905847

Sure, I can do that.

>>1905868
>That armor design
Shit son.

That's pretty fucking rad.

>>1905890
>rocket launchers spin around like a chaingun winding up
...please?

>>1905238
4chan went down for a bit I think. That's what the main page said anyways.
>>1905359
Doesn't Term have a copy of your map's latest iteration?
>>1905454
Literally the first line of his post.

>>1905197
>related to a big ass leak
Wut?

>>1905904

I would've gone with a lock-on beeping, but that works too.
Done, implemented, and pushed, thank you.