/vr/ - Retro Games

>>1897624
Most of the earlier Simpsons games had pretty weird concepts, likely to have been pitched by the writers themselves. They probably also contributed some designs (the juggernauts and space martians really look like Groening stuff)

>>1897740
> Space Martians
I amaze myself.

>>1897746
Was Bart vs. the Space Mutants made before or after Kang and Kodos were introduced on the show? It seems weird they created a bunch of made up aliens for the game instead of using the ones from the show.

>>1897624
Well, the arcade had some scrapped Simpsons stuff that at the time had not been revealed like Marge's rabbit ears. So I am guessing they at least had some access to the writers, or Matt's notes.

>>1897762
It came out the year after THOH 1 where Kang and Kodos were introduced.

>>1897762
I remember this and the Beavis & Butthead game being a huge deal when they came out. A video game just like the cartoon!

I doubt Matt was that involved with the game in the first place. Guy only created the series because he didn't want his Life in Hell comics to end up whored out like The Simpsons.

>>1898072
Funny how The Simpsons are still relevant, while nobody gives a shit about Life in Hell.

>>1898079
Which is what I think Matt wanted all along. He just wanted to keep it as its own little thing instead of being some massive franchise, people bring up him freaking out over The Critic crossover as an example of him caring about The Simpsons but really I think it was just some ego trip he had going on.

>>1898079
there will never, ever be a Zone parody of Life in Hell

>played and enjoyed the NES games (Bart vs. Space Mutants/The World, and Krusty's Fun House)
>generally surprised when people didn't like them

Granted I haven't touched them since the 90's but as a kid I didn't see too many issues.

>>1898313

I think I saw issues in the NES version of Space Mutants maybe because I have played the Genesis version previously, and that one was slightly more polished in the hitbox department.

That said I didn't think both versions were good games looking back. They were fun when I played back in the day but try re-playing these days doesn't seem so much fun.

the grammar ITT is fucking abysmal

There's some interviews with him around the time the EA game came out where he talked about the older stuff and mentioned they gave notes and pitches and the writers used it to do some more surreal stuff and people still talked about the Arcade game which they all thought was weird because they just handed off some assets to the guys who did the TMNT game and Fox assured them it would be a hit.

But Fox's licensing handled most of it. He was only really hands on with the EA game in 2008 where he would actually look at the builds and give feedback with the other showrunners

I remember watching some Simpsons commentary where they are briefly bored enough to read the "trivia" that David X. Cohen brought in with him. He mentions some stuff in the Hit & Run game, and nobody in the room knew what that was, or even that the Simpsons had video games in the first place. And Hit & Run is probably the best Simpsons game.

So I don't think most of them care too much.

>>1900073

The Futurama DVD's had commentary on the game and they remembered everything because they honestly thought it was the last time they would do Futurama.

And David X. Cohen had to bring his Xbox to the studio to hook it up and record the cutscenes as the Finland dev studio who made it was bought out by a gambling company and deleted the masters of the cutscenes.

>>1900073
i agree that it's the best game, but to be fair they haven't cared about the show since the 8th season either.

>>1898086
I don't get why he threw such a fit about that when it a classic episode. But hasn't said a thing about the current generation of shitty episodes.

The show died after season 11 (and even that was a pretty rough season)

>>1900087

That was back when he cared. Now he only gives a shit about Bongo comics and his retirement fund.

>>1897624
i dought it hes hardly contributed anything to the simpsons since it became a series.

>tfw wearing my shorts with bart simpson on it
>tfw listening to the simpsons sing songs on a cassette tape
>tfw playing bart vs space mutants on a care free summer day with no responsibilities.
>tfw watching the new episodes of the simpsons with my family every thursday followed by married with children and in livin' colour

fuck getting old

>>1900110
i bet you have a gf too gtfo faggot

>tfw I remember wearing my shorts with bart simpson on it
>tfw I remember listening to the simpsons sing songs on a cassette tape
>tfw I remember playing bart vs space mutants on a care free summer day with no responsibilities.
>tfw I remember watching the new episodes of the simpsons with my family every thursday followed by married with children and in livin' colour

>>1900073
They're a bunch of old men, aren't they? Things always slip from their mind every other second.

>>1900073
>Yeardley Smith is on the commentary

She's always so excited and full of energy.

>>1900124

Liar. Married with Children was always on Sundays until it was getting into the final seasons.

>>1900181
Nope, it used all be on thursday when it was first starting. Eventually it moved to sundays.

>>1900172
So always sounds so adorable :3

One of the hardest games of my childhood. Fuck the fucking Indiana Jones segment.

>>1900073
>And Hit & Run is probably the best Simpsons game.
I'm going to assume you're not familiar with the arcade game?

>>1900402
Not him, but I thought the TMNT arcade games were way better. They're the same games but with better graphics and sounds.

>>1900419
I prefer the Simpsons, if only because of the Tag-Team attacks.

Has anyone played the wrestling game?

>>1897624
Its so weird how they used to dress white people and white females in these old advertisements. Now they dress them in barely anything.

>>1897762
kek moe

>>1903616
It's weird how you had the need to specify the race and also separate people from women.

I guess this is bait subtle enough to buttblast SJWs?

>>1903712
Well I guess my post wasn't as clear. I'm more curious as to how they used to dress white people as a whole, and white females most importantly. As usually white females in these types of advertisements would wear clothing similar to males.

Also, how much color they used to put on the clothing.

Then comparing it to modern advertising, which is mostly to dress females in less & more revealing clothing, usually with blacks or greys.

Did I rustle you because you happen to be a white? I didn't mean to rustle you, it is just an observation of the past.

>>1897624
How about virtual springfield?

that really seemed closer to the show than most of the games.

>>1904724
What are you going on about? They're dressed like people did in the late 80s/ early 90s. Were you asleep for half a decade?

>>1904740
You're missing the point where I'm trying to state that females would be dressed closely like males. In some kind of "male" androgynous style.

>>1903517
If you mean the one on PS1, yes, and I didn't really care for it. Real voices, but just a pretty sub-par wrestling game for the time.

>>1904745
are you a human??

>>1904752
i coulda sworn it was for the ps2 but you're right, it was for ps1

and it was shit. weak shit

>>1904745
i think i know what you're getting at

i *think*

but it's an odd observation, and not unique to late-80s fashion. women have been wearing trousers since WW2, and those kinds of baggy jumpers were just super popular, and now are again.

>>1900124
>Live on a farm in the middle of nowhere
>Dad drives the tractor up to the house and uses the bucket to life the antenna to a different position so we can watch the Hank Scorpio episode when it premieres instead of waiting for reruns

>>1897762
"Space Mutants" movies were a recurring background element in early seasons, kind of like Happy Little Elves.

>>1904745
a) Not an uncommon style at the time, in advertising and reality

b) This ad is depicting a fucking family, featuring two young daughters and a mother. Would you really expect them to "dress less and be more revealing" in this context?

On an unrelated note,

>The father stands off to the side, feigning interest in the game

Why didn't the advertisers just, y'know, show a family of four instead?

>>1904781
Ayy lmao, no my niggah.

Also, Simpsons Arcade game was/is the best game. I had fun with EA's movie game. Other than that, I always remember most of the other games only being fun because it was Simpsons and not because they were good.

>>1905152
>engaging in a conversation about women with a namefag called Gor, of all things.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gor

There you go, joke's over now.

>>1904862
But the Space Mutants in the NES game were a made-up specie called Zebloids.

>>1905353
I don't know if you're trying to say that the aliens in the game are clearly separate from Kang & Kodos (in which case, that much is obvious) or that they are distinct from the aliens featured in the movies-within-the-show, but either way, who really cares? It's likely that the idea of using Space Mutants in the game came from the use of Space Mutants in the show, but ultimately whether it did or didn't doesn't really make much difference.

>>1905185
You know some guy mentioned something about Gor way back on /x/. I had no idea what the hell he was talking about, but no my name doesn't come from there.

I'm still surprised how butt blasted people are these day about names. I'd figure children would have accepted it by now.

>>1905931
>cannot be used with Mattel or NES versions of the Nintendo Entertainment System
What

>>1905982
UK, Italy and Australia had PAL systems with a lockout chip specific to those countries, so these games wouldn't play on those.

>>1906076
Oh, and in those countries, Mattel was the original distributor. Eventually Nintendo took over (their "NES" model was identical to the "Mattel" version, minus Mattel branding).

>>1906076
>>1906081
>>1905982
Also notice the pre-Zoidberg zoidberg.

>>1897624
I remember hearing on an early season DVD commentary that Matt Groening looks down his nose at video games and considers them to be inherently stupid or something like that.

http://www.ew.com/ew/article/0,,311316,00.html

According to a 1992 issue of Entertainment Weekly he did have some creative control over all the games, he'd create artwork and character designs and he'd give some things a thumbs up or a thumbs down. Some of his input includes changing Queen Ant DeLuvian of Bart's Nightmare to Queen Grouchina and encouraging the game designers to avoid using the Springfield setting and characters of the show as well as encouraging them to avoid traditional action mechanics in favor of adventure elements. However he doesn't play games because he's about as good at video games as you'd expect a rich, busy, middle aged man who thinks video games are for losers would be.

>>1898072
I don't know, if he really cared so much about Life in Hell you'd think that he'd still be writing them and publishing them online. I have a hard time thinking of Matt Groening as a money hating hipster.

>>1906168
I think he skipped Life in Hell to work on those Simpsons wisdom books.

>>1906168
>http://www.ew.com/ew/article/0,,311316,00.html
>''I'd consider doing a Life in Hell game, but I don't think you can say 'hell' in Nintendo games.''
Why didn't he make a PC adventure game then?

>>1906168
>>1906184
Makes me wish there was a LucasArts style Simpsons game. With the 90's writing.

>>1906168
Also, I should add, the reason the Konami arcade game is so much better than the other games is probably because Mr. Groening had very little to do with it given that the developers were Japanese. He was really only involved in the games to begin with out of distrust towards game designers and the arcade game was probably an example of what he was trying to avoid: the Simpson's running around mindlessly punching shit and making his cartoon look bad somehow.

>>1906173
Actually that's what I thought too since they're very similar but I think he was still writing it regularly as a weekly strip into the late 2000's but when the newspaper it ran in folded he finally dropped it.

>>1904724
>to dress females in less & more revealing clothing, usually with blacks or greys.

I have seen a lot of advertisements with white woman and black guy but I've never seen any with woman and alium. Please elaborate

>>1906485
This fucking guy.

>>1906206
A LA Simpsons game would have been godly... I can imagine the animation and graphics right now. Dayum shame.

>>1906221
Wow, I didn't know he was working on it that long. I only have Comic Book Guy's and Lisa's books, and they feel a lot like LiH, which is somewhat... refreshing or nostalgic in a sense. Its almost like a back to basic Simpsons that the current show doesn't even know about it.

Bart and the Beanstalk was probably the weirdest of them all. It tried to be its own "simpsons" thing, but it still felt out of place

To this day I still wonder this silly thing: Why haven't they made an episode based on the Arcade game yet?

>>1907440
Because it's a ridiculous plot that just wouldn't work in the TV show?

>>1897762
I used to be really good at that game, but playing it how I discovered how broken & frustrating it really was. shit is battletoads difficult, but only because the controls & layout of items is retarded.

Sort of.

>>1907498
I don't know. Jewel Thief Smithers seems like a much more interesting take on the character than just being Mr. Burns' gay assistant.

>>1907517
So what you're now proposing is that Smithers' well-established character of over 20 years be thrown out in favor of "kidnaps Maggie to get a jewel for Mr. Burns." You're right, that can't miss.

>>1908057
If the game had been made more recently, it would've been Snake Jailbird instead of Smithers.

>>1908117
So you just want the basic premise of "Maggie kidnapped, rest of family beats up random people throughout town on their way to rescue her?" That's still pretty ridiculous even for the Simpsons.

>>1900087
>But hasn't said a thing about the current generation of shitty episodes.

That's why I think it was more of an ego thing instead of a quality thing. It seems like he thought his show was too big to share a crossover with a lesser known one which pissed him off.

Also, FUCK FXX for removing Simpsons from Hulu.