/vr/ - Retro Games

There's a MESS version that emulates it. I don't remember which one exactly, but a simple google search can handle it. The game is okay. It's not technically brilliant (only played the Genesis version, haven't listened to CD ost; also, it has some mode 7 effects), but it's a solid game.

>>1877737
>Genesis/Mega Drive
>Mode 7

>>1877770
I think Mode 7 is a decent shorthand for parallax scaling. We know the Genesis didn't do that in hardware, but there's no reason a game couldn't do it manually if not a lot of action was going on.

Since Pier Solar was originally going to be a Sega CD game, and that does do hardware scaling, it's plausible that the game still has that where it can manage.

they want WAAAAAAAAAAAY to much money for it

>>1877770
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iH_2VXjkS7g

>>1877780
I am fully aware that the Genesis was capable of these kinds of transformations and scaling, but Mode 7 was specifically a graphics mode of the SNES hardware.

might just wait for the 'hd' version and play in 16bit mode. the 'hd' graphics look shit.

>>1877721
>Are Watermelon's claims true that it is too hardware-optimized to emulate?

Seems to work. Mind you I didn't get very far to test it. So there might be more issues later on or something.

Used:

>RetroArch
>GenplusGX core

>>1877721

Is there supposed to be a steam version coming out really soon?

>>1877836
http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=171541685

As with everything Watermelon, the release date is an open question.

>>1877721
>Are Watermelon's claims true that it is too hardware-optimized to emulate?

So where is the rom?

The second Genesis prints are undergoing QC at the moment.

>>1877890
All over the place. At least try using google before asking.

>>1877824
Gibe Rom pls.
All Roms I find have some kind of protection.

>>1878340
yes, they are
you need an emulator supporting that rom
only mess and retroarch (with gpgx) do

>>1877789
Oh quit being anal, as >>1877772 said "Mode 7" is good shorthand for those kinds of semi-3D graphics. We all know the Genesis didn't technically have Mode 7, but many games utilized a near carbon copy of it.

>>1877721
I've been meaning to pre-order a copy of the newest reprint of this...They say it'll be out by September but it seems to keep getting delayed...Should I do it? 60 bucks seems like a pretty fair price.

>>1877775
What do you suppose is a reasonable price for a cartridge-based game that uses (if I'm not mistaken) a non-mass-produced form of memory?

RPGs cost a ton when they were new. In Squaresoft's catalog that came with US copies of Secret of Evermore, they were asking for $79 (close to 125 in today's dollars) for FFIII and Chrono Trigger, and those prices are comparable to what you saw in stores at the time. On the Genesis, Phantasy Star IV was super spendy, in the neighborhood of $100 when it was new.

Watermelon and similar companies don't pay licensing fees, but neither do they save money by printing tens of thousands of copies at a time, using existing infrastructure, etc. They want $60 for Genesis copies, and my guess is they make about the same on them as they will on downloads.

Haven't played Pier Solar and don't intend to, but I'm interested in their SNES project.

They ran off with that Kickstarter money for the last 2 years.
Fuck them.

>>1878451
>RPGs cost a ton when they were new

thing is, they're not new anymore.

>>1878521
Pier Solar is.

>>1878574
Right, and it's half-price compared to the mentioned Squaresoft titles.

While trying to work out the cost of manufacturing cartridge games after my last post (>>1878451), I stumbled on a forum post written by someone involved with this game:

>For Pier Solar, e made a huge first print run of several 1000 copies because we were sure there are many Genesis- fans around. We were right, and with making no profit at all we managed to sell the game at 35$ shipped worldwide. Cartridge, cardboard box, full color manual, poster, stickers, and a CD. The later, smaller (which would have been more expensive anyway due to smaller numbers) runs became more expensive, also because we finally wanted to get some financial backing for new projects. And because what we saw with our 35$ game was that many people bought it, only to sell it on eBay for huge prices once it was sold out. The extra low price tag we chose did not benefit gamers, it benefit resellers. So we no longer sell games for no profit, but a small one.

>>1878848
i indeed paid $35 for my classic edition, less than 30 euros at that time, which was a bargain considering the quality of the release, the whole packaging, etc

i was pretty sure they losed money on the first print

>>1877890
In the No-Intro set. Doesn't run on an Everdrive, alas.

>>1878921
Honestly I would rather they make some profit off of it if it meant they could do larger and more frequent production runs.
As it is, this game sells for like $200 on eBay, which I believe makes it the most expensive game on the Genesis.

Programming quirks aside, it's a pretty darn good Lunar clone. Picked up a couple copies a few years ago, and it and the OST are well worth buying from WM, if you get a chance.

>>1877721
I've had this on preorder for liek two years.

I don't think they have enough orders to do another run.

>>1878470
what kickstarter money?

>>1877721
>Are Watermelon's claims true that it is too hardware-optimized to emulate?

Good goy.

>>1878432
>>1878340

It just needs a high accuracy emulator to run it.

GenPlus GX can run it. It's for Wii and part of RetroArch for PC.

MESS can apparently run it too. Most of the roms I've found online were bundled with MESS.

>>1879615
Oddly enough I got an email from them today. Looks like the reprint is actually happening soon-ish.

Also they're kickstarting a Dreamcast RPG.
Good to see they're alive, though progress info about their Streets of Rage-esque beat 'em up is conspicuously absent.

>>1880096
>conspicuously absent
>projectY blurb at the bottom

I need to learn to read.

>>1878451
That'd be fine and good and all that but they're selling a fucking CD version at the same price.

>>1880096
Why don't they fucking shave?

>>1880171
Beards are a sign of wisdom, virility, and power, anon.

>>1880174
They're also a sign of kisslessness.

>>1880096
>Also they're kickstarting a Dreamcast RPG.

1. lel @ kikestarter

2. Dreamcast. They should make an xbox game if they want something that is unemulatable and will be pirated day 1.

>>1880207
That's dforce3000 on the left. He's a normal guy (or at least as normal as you can be while being obsessed with SNES programming) and is clean-shaven. That his beard is growing is a good sign for the project, IMO, as it suggests he's truly there to work hard.

>>1880238
>and is [usually] clean-shaven