/vr/ - Retro Games

Proceed, OP

To be honest with you, he comes off as kind of a prick, at least from a buyer's perspective.

He shows up to local conventions and get-togethers and brings games from his collection to sell. Duplicates, extras, basically his cannon fodder.

He had a CIB Zelda II, which had a little sticker on the front that said "For the Serious Collector: $100."

I happened to get a copy in comparable condition for $70.

He doesn't like people gawking at what he has for sale unless they're buying.

From his profile on the exhibitor's section of the OVGE website (the convention I met him at): "Jeff always brings a wonderful selection of Atari, Colecovision, Intellivision, NES..etc.. stuff for sale so do stop by, shake his hand, and learn something. But most importantly… Buy Something!"

Despite the fact the fact that his prices aren't very good, and that he also might be a liar (see next post), he's still a rather fascinating guy, since he has to be the oldest video game collector I know, and he was going around garage sales, warehouses, toy stores, and collecting all sorts of stuff before even I was born, much less before the internet. Back then, there really wasn't much of a video game culture to speak about.

I asked him several questions about his opinions and thoughts about video gaming and such.

One question was about his thoughts on today's trend of video game hardware going for a more all-in-one entertainment model.

He said that, obviously, his biggest fear was that there would eventually be no more physical mediums which to collect with the going trend right now.

Does he have a wife?

>>1872385
Who needs a wife when you have a decade-spanning harem of /vr/ waifus?

>>1872375
>He said that, obviously, his biggest fear was that there would eventually be no more physical mediums which to collect with the going trend right now.

I doubt it will ever get there. And I find it to be a double edged sword. Digital copies may not be physical copies, but as someone who plays more obscure titles, it's a Godsend.

Anyway, this is kinda off topic, but I just wanted to interject. Please continue, OP. This is a good thread.

The next question I asked was what was his thoughts about some of the more questionable aspects of about the reseller's market, specifically the whole issue with EarthBound and how some would consider that the resell price has been artificially raised by resellers hoarding and selling cartridges, manuals, and boxes at ridiculous prices, despite the fact that EarthBound may not be all that rare of a game by some standards.

Unsurprisingly, his answer was a basic ho-hum "supply and demand" response.

The last question I asked was about his most valuable piece.

He claims that it's his Color TV Game 15. His story was that he managed to have a wealthy friend buy this "super rare" unit from Japan, and gave this story about how Nintendo released both the Color TV Game 15 alongside the Color TV Game 6 with the intention of using the Color TV Game 15's high price tag to influence buyers to buy the cheaper version.

According to him, it's worth roughly $7,000.

Here are the facts:

The Color TV Game 15 was not released alongside the Color TV Game 6. It was released about a year later.

There is nothing documented that even remotely corroborates with his side of the story.

You can own your very own "Super-Rare $7,000" Color TV Game 15 right now for about $140.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/PONG-Nintendo-COLOR-TV-GAME15-CTG-15S-Japan-Import-1977-Working-Complete-RARE-/321477755898?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item4ad99143fa

His Stack-Up, he claimed, only cost him $5 from 20 years ago.

How did you meet Mr. Cooper?

>>1872414
That could be him being misinformed (and/or in denial) rather than being a liar.

>>1872414
That Magical Chase is worth a shit ton more than his Color TV Game

>>1872425

At the convention.

I was thinking of seeing about asking him permission to photograph his collection for the sole purpose of sharing with /vr/. The pictures I'm sharing come from a news article posted online.

>>1872427

You'd figure he'd be sharper than that, though.

Here's pictures of his SNES collection.

Note the sealed copies.

>>1872438

>Decide to look up eBay for Magical Chase.

>There's only one and it's going for $12,999

>mfw

>>1872339
He looks like a prick. I bet that interview went a lot like 5 word sentences and of crickets cropping in the background

Did you ask him why he hoards games instead of being a reasonable human being

Does he play games though?

>>1872456
Came out after the Turbografx had been all but abandoned and the only way to get it was to mail order it so it's rare

>>1872461
I figured that was a stupid question to ask since I was at a retro game collector's convention, and I also do the same thing, but on a much smaller scale.

>>1872464
See pic.

>mfw This guy is a fucking doctor.

http://history.okstate.edu/faculty-and-staff?id=48

>>1872471
Would be a shame to have that collection just for the sake of collecting. Good for him.

>>1872482
>what is showing off

>>1872486
nah man ignore the fact that he is playing burger time and look at the back.

>>1872492
>what is showing off 2: electric boogaloo

>My wife has divorced me.

>My children don't talk to me.

>My friends have stopped calling.

>But at least I have my video games.

But seriously, would you guys be interested in a sort of AMA with this guy?

What's his favourite game?

>>1872498
any loser can have a family and friends, but how many lucky guys get to enjoy having such a sweet video game collection

>>1872508
but how lucky can you be to share your game collection with your loser friends?

>>1872498
It would be awesome surely. I'd like to know what was the average price of games he paid for at garage sales pre 1990-2000

What's his favorite game?

>>1872525

I didn't ask him.

But I think it might be Pac-Man.

>>1872530
I noticed in the OP he was holding NiGHTS for Saturn, what does he think of it or retro SEGA in general?

>>1872534

I don't know. All the other questions I asked him was asked shortly after I found out who he was.

Like I said, I could try and do a little AMA and have him answer questions from this site.

>>1872558
do it faggot. this guy is based and owns a lot of cool shit. softball some questions and take more pictures.
>Why do you collect video games
>What was your first video game
>What is the newest video game you've played
>What is your holy grail
>Where do you buy now
>Do you play/buy imports
>Are you active online and what do you play
>Are you fond of PC games
>What will you do with your collection in the future
>What have you learned from video games

>>1872339
what a collectorfag. I wonder how many of those he actually plays. nigga needs to study more flashcarts

>>1872498
>>1872359

guy seems like an absolute faggot collectorfag . That legacy though.

This is pretty interesting, thanks for posting OP. I'll have to remember OVGE for next year.

They used to have some pretty good game stores in Tulsa (and chains like Vintage Stock tended to have better stuff). There isn't shit here in Dallas, and it was always nice going up there on business and being able to get some good finds, although it's been bare the last couple of times I've been up there. There was one on the north side of Tulsa whose name escapes me at the moment, but it was closed as of about a year ago.

>>1872404
I agree that we will still have physical media for a long time to come. Mainly because of internet speeds and how large new games are becoming.

Some modern games uncompressed are 50 gB+. To download and install something that large would be quite an undertaking unless you have cutting edge internet speeds.

Physical media is just a very convenient way to deliver large amounts of data still.

>>1872830
>Some modern games uncompressed are 50 gB+. To download and install something that large would be quite an undertaking unless you have cutting edge internet speeds.
I don't know where you are but that doesn't sound like such a huge feat to me. Worst case scenario, you just leave the system on overnight and it's done in the morning. The only way I can really see it being a problem is if you have a bandwidth cap.

>>1872871
On my connection, assuming the server maxes out my download speed, a 50GB game would take at least 23 hours to complete.
And it would also consume a quarter of my monthly bandwidth cap. As well as inconveniencing all my housemates by making online games unplayable and interfering with even basic web browsing.

Not everyone lives in the USA or affluent regions of Europe.

>>1872871
Except that consoles don't have a whole lot of HD storage and expansion storage is expensive. This might change in the future but I kind of doubt it.

Do you know what the latest console he collects for is?

>>1872830
> unless you have cutting edge internet speeds.
You don't need cutting edge speed, just not shitty speed.
Also, almost no games uncompress to 50GB. Unless you're converting the datafiles themselves for no good reason. Rage was one of the largest games at 20GB. If you had raw textures, which are unreleased it'd be like 1TB of data. But if you consider the playable format uncompressed, it's still only 20GB.

I have decent speed, nowhere near cutting edge, it would still only take a bit over an hour to download 50GB.

>>1872830
So if we uncompress all the data in a game and move to a small town in Africa modern games will take a long time to download.
I guess the simple solution is to not do both of those things. Preferably not even one.

>>1873028
Many MMOs can break 20GB easy, though they aren't normally published on consoles and require an internet connection, so not being able to download TERA's 40+gb worth of loli ass is kinda just a moron test.

>>1873028
>I have decent speed, nowhere near cutting edge, it would still only take a bit over an hour to download 50GB.

If it takes you about an hour to download 50 gigs of data you have a 111mb/s connection. That is the god damn definition of cutting edge speeds. That is 10 times higher than the national average.

But i believe this is all a moot point. I believe this is the last generation of consoles. It will all go to "media centers". Just look a the Xbone launch. It was all

>SPORTSTVSPORTSTVSPORTSTVSPORTSTV

The overwhelming majority of "gamers" now only play on their phones. That is where the money is and the market follows the money. You'll hook your phone up to your TV with an HDMI cable and a blue tooth controller. Your phone will be your new "console". Then all games will basically be computer games with minimum required specs that will be for your phone.


That collector has a very valid fear. Also i just don't see modern console games as being collectable really. They are so abundant its ridiculous. Its not like a NES cartridge that only 40K were ever made.

>tfw I have a collection in the same category as this guy's
>tfw I don't go to conventions, whore on youtube or anything else

The collection isn't really a secret - people on the local scene know about it and it's an easy conversation starter when I feel the need to be social. I have a wife and a baby who occupy much more of my time, the collection is stowed in my mancave except for the arcade machines and select pieces that I have connected in the living room.

This is a fucking hobby, not a lifestyle. Jesus.

>>1873519
>This is a fucking hobby, not a lifestyle. Jesus.
For you

>>1872767
>Are you fond of PC games

Maybe I haven't looked toroughly enough, but I don't see a single computer game or even computer in there.

I keep being amazed how this whole 'retro games collector' thing only cares about consoles, and even more so in the US.

For me video games have always been half console, half computer.

The only reasonable explanation I have to this is that console games are easier to get working and just play.

>>1873682
Probably because people have less attachment to old pc games. The physical aspects, that is. Even when they were new all my pc games weree floppy copies and such

>>1872530
Is that a sharpie?

Did you smell it?

And did it smell of pooper?

>>1873710
You can still collect computer accessories and stuff. Consolefag elitists like that guy are missing out on a lot of history. Does that pleb even know the story of id software

>>1873682
DOS/Windows tended towards complex strategy games, role-playing games and simulators, and adventure games, none of which are popular today. The different hardware and software configurations are a pain in the ass even if you know what you're doing, and you will need more than one computer if you want to play all the games. Floppy disks aren't very durable and don't lend themselves well to being sold without the box. There's a greater need for a manual than with console games, and many games have off-disk copy protection.

Amigas are much more straightforward and simple with more attractive games, but they're not well known outside of people who grew up with them.

The C64 is the best-selling computer model of all time, yet the NES sold about four or five times as much. So consoles have also been much more widespread than computers.

>>1873778
>DOS/Windows tended towards complex strategy games, role-playing games and simulators, and adventure games, none of which are popular today.

Saying that is very reducing. I played hundreds and hundreds of PC games of any genre.

>>1873846
I said "tended towards." DOS/Win and consoles generally had very different kinds of games.

It's a good thing I know I'll never turn into this kind of scumbag.

>Collect games and never open or play them
>Lie through my teeth about obvious shit
>Become such a jerk my family won't talk to me
>No friends

I hope the sounds of those arcade machines are good enough to help him sleep at night.

>>1872482

I collect and honestly can't beat the first level of half of my games

>>1873874

Collectors often don't open products, dude.

>>1873875
You sicken me.

>>1873882
Why?
Why do idiots buy products and not use them?

"Oh hoho, it's a piece of video game history"

Fuck you. If it's that historic, play it or don't buy it.

>>1873875
why the fuck do you collect games?

>>1873519
Sorry dude but you seem jealous as fuck.

>>1873890

Enjoying games doesn't make me good at them. I suck at most video games but I'm still a gamer

>>1873905
I think your radar is broken I have nothing to be jealous of.

>>1873975
Oh well if you still enjoy them thats understanable.

>>1873975
>I'm still a gamer

fucking disgusting. I'm ashamed to be in the same hobby as you. If you own shit like megaman 7 and you never intend to beat it then I'd slap your shit.

>>1873996
That's a poor example. 7 is garbage.

I wish I was a history professor who had an excuse to pump excessive resources into making an awesome video game collection.

Guess I always have the choice to do that.

OP here.

Just so all of you know, I just e-mailed Dr. Cooper in the hopes that he would be interested in answering any questions by you guys.

I'll update you guys if I find out anything.

>>1873505
>But i believe this is all a moot point. I believe this is the last generation of consoles. It will all go to "media centers". Just look a the Xbone launch. It was all
>
>>SPORTSTVSPORTSTVSPORTSTVSPORTSTV
There was a pretty huge backlash to that though. The PS4 sold ten million units when their entire marketing campaign was essentially just "we're not Xbox". I think what will happen though is that consoles will be replaced by set-top boxes and services like PS Now. In which case, yes, collecting video games won't carry over into the next generation.

>>1872439

Mr. Do! was on the SNES?

That game was awesome on the CV.

>>1873719

Save that for the ``AMA'' thing.

>>1873682
>is that console games are easier to get working and just play.

This.

OP is that ROB thread fag from /v/ by the way.

>>1874085

>talking shit about ROB

>>1873979
Well, you just compared yourself with him without no reason. And that's jealousy with capital J.
But it's nothing to be ashamed of.

And guess what ?
He doesn't collect pc games, just like every single video game collector.

>>1874209
I think you have a limited grasp of human motivation. I'm glad I'm not like him and if his collection is somewhat larger then mine it wouldn't be worth being someone like him to achieve it.

>>1874229
Would you mind showing your collection to us?

>I think you have a limited grasp of human motivation

Unfortunately, the source is still a secret to me.

>>1874240
Mine is not so neatly displayed and as I said, I'm not looking for any particular recognition. Notice how I'm Anon. I'm sincerely expressing my happiness not to be like this >>1872498 if that really is his life.

You're totally failing if you're trying to troll me or something. I'm sure there are lots of people with personal collections in this guy's category. In fact, I'm confident this guy doesn't even have the largest "personal" collection in his state. If he really sacrificed his life for it that's pretty sad - like literally sad. It actually makes me sad because there but for the grace of God go I.

>>1872385
Why she would just take half his games in a divorce

>>1874279
There's worse ways you could spend your time and money.

>>1874225
Except LGR

>>1874008
it's a stellar example because it's a highly collectible game with a huge price tag. if you spend that much money on a game and never play it then you're garbage.

it's like buying a ferrari and never driving it.

inb4
>ferarris are garbage.

>>1874279
OP asked the guy to answer some questions and take an interview. you seem to be just assuming the dudes a try hard and an attention whore. I never heard of him till now. and I doubt I'll hear about him later.

>>1873975
But other people could have hours of fun beating games that you 'enjoy' for 5 minutes until you ragequit. Damn son, think of the children

>mfw Dr. Cooper smoked smarties

This is Jeff Cooper writing. Thanks to those of you who got some enjoyment from the pics of my collection and for the interesting comments from the vast majority of you.
My son warned me that there would be a tiny minority of loser-trolls; most of those comments were funny. But I'm disappointed that the reporter from the Tulsa World is not only one of these trolls, but is a poor reporter as well. I'd like to clear up the misconceptions about the TV-15. I received it from a Japanese friend. He said his father bought a TV-6 and a TV-15 on release day. TV-15 was quickly discontinued and then re-released. This would explain why there are different model numbers and different box designs for TV-15. As for documentation, my friend took me to wiki-Japan. He too is a history professor, and I doubt he was making things up as he translated. I never said the item was worth $7,000. I never mentioned any figure whatsoever. Finally, the ebay link the reporter offerd brings us to a TV-15 in a different unit in a different box than mine. One might just as well link to a PAL Stadium Events and claim that it reflects on the value of an NTSC one. Finally, she seems to believe I am a possible "liar" because I said I bought my sealed Stack Up for $5. I never said this. I bought in in 1993 for $4.

>>1874423
You do realize Mega Man 7 becoming expensive is extremely recent, right? For about a decade it was like a $20-30 game.

>>1874602
Are videogames Art?

I've slept in that room. Y'all jelly?

>>1874634
same

BRUCE

>>1874634
>>1874637
>>1874639

>mfw none of my homeboys r getting dubs

>>1874643

Check 'em

>>1872471
Holy fuck I love Burger Time

Bruce, please give me dubs in my time of need.

>>1874649

>mfw 32D

>>1874665

yo ben how do u like my dubs

Whads goin on in dis dreab?? :DDD

>>1874639
>Bruce Shitstain

if dubs bruce springsteen is a talentless hack

>>1874602
Were the misconceptions about the TV-15 part of your plan?

Thought it was Kiefer Sutherland from the thumbnail.

david peterson's big dubs

>>1874279
You seem like a bro to me, friend. Rock on.

mfw no dubs

>>1874710

u crossed the line dude

>>1874014
So, is it true you're grill?

DUBS

if dubs then Jeff Tweedy has to stop making music

>>1874602
What arcade machine would you want that you don't have?

What about collecting pinball machines?

Lastly are you going to pass your collection down to anyone or are you going to burn it/let it rot in a storage unit to up the collection value for other people?

>>1874602
Whats the newest system you collect for?

>>1874602
I don't think it was a reporter who started this thread but that weird guy who carries a ROB around with him

What's your favorite game?

>>1872498
>AMA
>fucking yuck

The only question I'd ask him is how it's gonna feel when he dies and all that trash goes to the dump where it belongs.

>>1874880
Gee I don't know, how will it feel when you die alone as a bitter loser who accomplished nothing in your life but feeble attempts at putting others down?

>>1874602
Are there any lesser-known games or systems you'd like to put a spotlight on for us anons?

>>1874602
We have seen pictures of you playing a Burger Time machine. I am saddened to admit that I don't play half of my games half as much as I should, but I DO play them. What is your opinion on collectors who do NOT play their games, and on those who are adamant on not opening sealed retro games?

>>1874885
Pretty good.

>>1874880
>>>/v/

>>1874885
When I get old as shit I am going to have a giant garage sale and only sell my games to kids. Kids will enjoy them more than space pirates and neo-hipsters

>>1874852
>that weird guy who carries a ROB around with him

That guy lives in New York, though. He couldn't have met this guy in Oklahoma.

>>1874907
Read the retro convention thread, ROB started this one too he said he met the collector guy at the convention

>>1873682
ancient PC games are a hell of a lot harder to find than console games

>>1874279
>I'm not looking for any particular recognition

>shitposts about his collection on an anonymous imageboard devoted to japanese culture

>>1874602

wich 2hu wud u fug?

>>1874914
Did a trollbot write this post? Because it makes no sense and seems to just be a bunch of thrown together 4chan buzzwords and phrases.

>>1874914
>I'm not looking for any particular recognition
>posts on an anonymous imageboard

I want you to try real hard to explain how these two sentences contradict each other

>>1872339

ITT: A lonely, mentally ill person, showing his "collection"

>>1876052
I'm willing to give him the benefit of the doubt since I can only read what some other Anon had to say about him since I haven't seen any video of him speaking directly or really cared enough to research it but if that was actually him posting that one post in the thread, and broadly dismissing his detractors as "trolls" rings some Chris-Chan bells. Yeah.

>>1874602
>she

I think we've exposed another femmenist gamer journalist trying to shit all over hard working dudes who just love video games.

it's clear to me why OP thought you were a prick, she's just a try hard slut and was sad that you're so cool and have a great collection.

>>1874602
>Finally, she seems to believe I am a possible "liar"

So it's a girl. Unbelievable that a girl posts on /vr/.

>>1872339
>>1872359
>>1872414

>All that rare expensive as fuck shit
How come nobody breaks into the house of this guy and steals everything? There's a fucking fortune there

>>1876148
>hard working dudes who just love video games.
More like collectorfags collecting trash. The girl is stupid and got BTFO but still.

>>1876158
This is a big part of why I don't flaunt my entire collection, or even keep all my eggs in one basket.

>>1872517

I got Super Metroid in 2003 for under $20 on ebay, CIB. F-Zero in 2011 for around the same price, also CIB. They aren't rare games by any means but the collector's boom has gotten ridiculous these days.

I'm almost "done" with my collection and will only focus on Gamecube up after I bag about 10 more games. But I've been on this quest for a long time.

I am super jealous of this guy having the space for all these arcade decks. My apartment is almost full.

>>1876167
I always wondered, people like Pat who owns both NWC carts and goes on public about it. That's just fucking dumb, nothing happened to him but still. Maybe he has that stuff locked down a safe somewhere.

OP pls tell his adress

>>1876172
And it's worse for me since I'm not a chaser, just a lifelong collector instead of having two or three $10,000 pieces I have dozens of $300-$1000 ones.

>>1872339
Michael Jackson had a bigger collection

http://www.pinsane2.com/pinorama/events/MJ_09/kr/michael_jackson_arcade_entry.html

>>1876258
>Millionaire since the 80's
>Most of the cabinets were bought brand new
>Got to collect games during the golden age of gaming

Looking through that made me super jelly