/vr/ - Retro Games

cool thanks for the heads up, is it full translated or something like fire emblem 4 translated?

Thanks for offering no source whatsoever.

>>1853958
>>1853956

Can't find it on romhcaking.net

Where can I find it?

>>1853958
>>1853964
Source here faghats.

http://www.romhacking.net/forum/index.php?topic=6058.0

>>1853958
>>1853964

http://www.romhacking.net/forum/index.php/topic,6058.0.html

It's a beta release and is not fully completed. Details above.

Oh OP, at least post the translation thread.

http://www.romhacking.net/forum/index.php/topic,6058.0.html

Both MT1 and MT2 fully playable, but, since it's a beta, there's still a good amount of bugs and untranslated bits.
Post in the forum if you find any problems, the author is working appreciates.

>>1853976
>>1853979
I just got off work and I'm too tired to be happy.

Fuck it, I'm downloading anyway. I have demons to recruit.

Also does the translator accept sloppy blowjobs as donations?

>>1853979

And if you're going to test it, do not use zsnes. Use either bsnes (higan) or Snes9x. Zsnes will cause issues with the game and the translation.

Latest Snes9x build:
http://www.emucr.com/2014/06/snes9x-testbuild-20140625.html

>Kyuuyaku Megami Tensei patch released and improved every day
>Devil Summoner and Shin Megami Tensei If... being worked on
>PS2 Classics of most SMT titles on PSN
>DDS novels in english
>Persona Q and Persona 5 coming later this year

Awesome times for SMT fans.

>>1854083
Seeing PS2 games referred to as classic still kinda bugs me.

>>1854083
You forgot Persona 4 Arena 2, son!

What do we have left to wait for? Soul Hackers 1 and, uh, the Demikids prequels? Oh and the SRPG games on the SFC.

Ha ha! Time for farming!

What a time to be alive.

Anyone notice any gamebreaking bugs I should know about before I apply the patch?

>>1854863
Apparently there's data loss?

I'm probably going to keep a bunch of save states just in case.

Now all we need is Romancing SaGa 2 to get translated.

>>1853936

Now we need the Playstation ports of Shin Megami Tensei to be translated.

>>1854897
did they really ad much?

>>1854897
SMT1 is on iOS and it's based on the PSX/GBA port IIRC

>>1853936
I actually saw this thread two or three days ago on RHDN. Pretty neat stuff. I'm going to wait a while for more bugfixes just in case there's something horribly breaking right now, but still cool stuff.

>>1854908
Better music, slight graphical improvement, and a whole bunch of little goodies like that.

It's actually the same as the mobile port though, so translating it would only be for giving it more platforms.

>>1854089
When the PS1 was new, SNES games that were 5 years old were "classics".
There hasn't been a new PS2 game in what? 7 years? They're classics now. Get over it.

Then again, I've been a gamer continuously since 1988, and I've seen at least 5 generations of hardware come and go. So I guess I'm just more used to that kind of thing than you kids.

>>1854895

One of these days, anon...

>>1854935
I bet Shin Megami Tensei If...gets translated before Romancing SaGa 2.

Mark my words.

That's great to hear, I just got me a copy of Megami Tensei II for my Famicom, but I'm struggling to play it with my limited japanese skills.

I'm gonna play it ASAP. A shame the music isn't as cool as the Famicom version.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oGEzqWGp2WA

>>1854965
Didn't MT2 use one of those fancy chip doo-hickeys to improve the sound?

>>1854945
It's AGTP, total tossup if it does get translated or not.

>>1854969
1st, I mean.

Fuck.

>>1854945
At least someone is actually working on SMT If...
Not sure if people are even interested in translating RS2. And that's a damn shame.

>>1854968
Yeah, it had some pretty cool special sound chips in the cart. Btw, the instruction manual is huge like most RPG's.

>>1854979
That cart looks awesome.

>>1854994
And the box even comes with stickers you can decorate the cart with!

That's even more awesome.

>>1854979
They haven't updated it in years.
I doubt it will be translated, with the way its encoded its difficult to even get to the script. There's a translated script out there, but actually making a patch is difficult.

At least for the SNES version.

>>1855059
At least they're halfway done. Didn't we get some kind of update on If... recently?

Welp, at least there's kanji in it, makes it more readable. I think I can manage to play it somewhat decently.

>>1855083
two years ago
http://agtp.romhack.net/project.php?id=smtif

>>1855086
Shit, I swear it was more recent than that.

At this rate they're going, I'll probably become fluent in japanese before the patch even comes out.

>>1854934
>There hasn't been a new PS2 game in what?
Less than a year.

>>1855059
>>1855086
He's been working on If... a lot recently, he even streamed his progress yesterday right here: http://www.hitbox.tv/GideonZhi
I watched for a bit but I'm not that into romhacking so it didn't seem that interesting to me.

Bump

>>1854965
The OMEGA track is absolutely amazing. Damn.

So, this is my first Megami Tensei game (and indeed my first dungeon-crawler barring Nethack). Does dying have any negative consequences other than losing 1/2 your gold? I've been dying a lot but it doesn't seem like I'm losing experience or anything. Gotta catch em all

>>1857573
I'm actually surprised by that because in most MT games, dying is just a straight game over. This game looks to take a page from the Dragon Quest school of design.

>>1853936
seems like they forgot to translate "megami tensei"

Yay, someone translated a re-release of games we already have translated...

Just give me SMT If.. Already.

>>1858694
>Yay, someone translated a re-release of games we already have translated...

get a load of this nincompoop

>>1858676
Yeah just like how they forgot to translate it on Nocturne, Strange Journey, Persona 3 and 4, Devil Summoner...

how should I build nakajima and yukiko?

>>1858694
>MT1&2
>Fully Translated
>And released
What the fuck are you on about, m8?

>>1858697
>>1859172
ignore the tasty bait, guise.

>>1859184
I doubt it's bait more as it's somebody who's ignorant to the series and is assuming this is a collection of SMT1&2.

Giving the benefit of the doubt, of course.
Not everything is bait, man.

>>1854979
>>1854083
>>1854945
>>1854979
>>1855059
>>1855083

I've been If... despite not knowing a lick of moon runes. There's a guide that explains all the menus, translate's all the story scripts, etc. if I remember correctly. It's a pain to constantly look back an forth between the two, but it's there if you want to play the game now.
http://www.gamefaqs.com/snes/581300-shin-megami-tensei-if/faqs/28827

>>1859272
*I've beat if...
I mean.

>>1859094
Build Nakajima for DEX (tanking is a priority) and STR

Yukiko for Magic

So who am I supposed to side with, the guy or the girl partner?

In Megami Tensei II am I supposed to side with the guy or girl partner?

Or rather, what are the endings and their conditions?

>>1858731
they did forget, it's because they were being weeaboos

>>1854083
>Translation patches making the games accessible to plebs
>Persona Q/5
>awesome

I've been playing SMT IV the past week or so, really getting into it. I've been considering looking into older games in the series. Would this be a good place to start?

>>1860950
So far it's not so bad. Of course you're going to be missing some features that, say, even SMT2 had, but it's a fun little romp. It's also more manageable than SMT1 because the encounter rate here isn't ridiculous (yet).

Since you have a 3DS, I might also recommend playing Soul Hackers since it's a pretty neat game and (at least for me) scratches the itch for a nice, quick PSX RPG. It's not a perfect game or even the best MT game, but it's fast and (relatively) easy.

SMT1 was personally the first game I tried out of the whole series and I liked it a bunch. I played it at a time where it was really neat to play an RPG that took place in current (read: 1992) day. It also had a darker story and a vibe that I liked a ton. Going back, I wouldn't really recommend the SNES version because it has a silly encounter rate, but I've heard good things about the PSX/GBA versions. I hear that the iOS port takes after both of these, so if you have an iOS device, go for it. It was like 7 or 8 bucks when I last checked it.

>>1860821
>being an whiny elitist twat for the sake of being a whiny elitist twat
>implying people who knew runes weren't playing and liking the things you pretend to like long before you and the people who just started liking them
>they're just happy more people are playing good games

even /smtg/ isn't this obnoxious

>>1860965
>It's also more manageable than SMT1 because the encounter rate here isn't ridiculous
I have no idea how I handled that game post-Ginza the first time I played it. I replayed it just last year, and the game was just the worst encounter rate ever. I became so overleveled just from auto-fighting (no Estoma until the last dungeon because of my luck while fusing), that the final bosses were pretty close to three turn kills sans the ones that actually needed magic.

While that was my second time beating the first SMT, it pretty much killed my desire to try SMT2 (which I've never played) just because I didn't want to deal with that shit again. I mean, Iike the first game's set up and premise, but goddamn, that late game.

Not the guy you were responding to, but I'm also starting up SMT4 and thinking of going back and attempting SMT2 afterwards since it sounds like the encounter rate isn't dicks.

>>1861008
Also, I wasn't overleveled because I was intentionally grinding. It's just that there were that many battles and just killing the fuckers was usually faster than trying to run if I didn't have one already in my party to talk my way out.

>>1860979
I was mostly joking but if you seriously think Persona 5 looks good you might as well just kill yourself now

>>1861016
I played the SFC version too and have to say, I wouldn't have been able to slog through without emulator fast-forward. SMT2 wasn't as bad but I still zoomed through because I'm impatient.

>>1861035
>Persona 5

So...you think Persona Q and Persona 5 are the same game?

>>1861078
Maybe he's "joking" again.

>>1861078
I just didn't feel like typing out "or Persona 5"
>>1861090
How about "seriously flippant"? Does that work better for you?

hey guys new to the series.

Megami Tensei 1 and 2. Should I go with the original Famicom versions, or this new translated verison?

>>1860979
>even /smtg/ isn't this obnoxious

It's funny because I swung by /smtg/ yesterday and they were talking about KMT.

>>1861039
Fast forward is a Godsend. I don't know if I could take it on normal hardware. Some of the enemy mobs are ridiculously large.

>>1861110
lol he's backpedaling like a motherfucker. Don't give him any more attention.

>>1861115
>Should I go with the original Famicom versions

Can you read moonrunes? I'm personally digging them and think that they are probably a little better, like the DQ remakes were. IIRC what I read at HG101, the remakes are smoother.

>>1861115
Go with the newer one.

>>1861039
m8, when I played, I played it on real hardware. No fast-forward. Life was hell. That's what made me so leery about playing the second game right afterwards.

>>1861117
>>It's funny because I swung by /smtg/ yesterday and they were talking about KMT.

Yeah, and you probably didn't have to take the time to note how they weren't being incredibly snobby to each other, because they were so busy actually talking about the game, rather than bitching and moaning.

>>1861035
>my dad works 4 atlus an he knows kanreko personaly

oh, okay

>>1861137
My dad is dead, anon.

>>1861162
So he doesn't work for Atlus? Cool, glad we could settle that.

>>1854934
>yfw fifa 14 was released on ps2, ps3, and ps4 simultaneously

>>1861115
I suggest the remakes as they stream line and makes dungeon crawling and battles a lot easier. Music and visuals also looks closer to the rest of the series than the NES games did

>>1860950
I think Persona 2 IS and EP are the right mix of accessible and challenging. They also don't feel like shitty anime which is what happened to the Persona games since 3.

>>1861258
That reminds me, if you want to have a laugh, go look at the sprites for the enemies in the NES versions.

Bonus fun for seeing what a long-running demon looked like in his/her first appearance.

Check out Jack Frost.

>>1861274
He looks more like a Snow Bros character here

>>1861208
Cozy Okada made him commit seppuku for dishonoring himself by going to your mom's bukkake party

>>1861279
>cozy left atlus in 03

So he worked for the pile of dogshit that was Gaia, up until 2010, when he attended my mother's bukkake party and the company subsequently disbanded? Neat, although I'd play sudoku too if you were my seed and I had joined Gaia instead of staying at Atlus with the big boys.

>>1861258

It uses the same engine from SMT.

>>1853936
sweet

Does Kyuuyaku fix MT2's encounter rate?

It's pretty damn high, I can't walk two milimeters on the map without getting an encounter.

Did they ever translate NINE? Or do people not care because it's xbox?

>>1862058
NINE is a bad game. It's not worth translating.

>MT1 takes place after the events of DDS:MT 1&2
Should I read the books first or at all?

>>1862101
Ask >>>/vg/76818774

>>1862084
So is Devil Summoner, but people are translating that anyway.

>>1854083
>implying those lazy shitheads are even working on If...

Fuck Aeon Genesis.

>>1854915
This.

Now please buy it so we can hopefully get 2 and If... translated. Mostly If...

>>1862561
I'm still waiting for the rest of SRW4 or Shin Makoushishin.

>>1862576
Those guys need to learn to not take so many damn projects, if they can't get them out in a timely fashion.

I mean, shit. I know I sound like a whiny cunt wanting games, but seriously. And with the way these stupid groups work, no one else can work on these games.

>>1862587
Yeah, that's the worst aspect of it. They've been sitting on those games for 10+ years and haven't let anyone else take a crack at it. Those games translation pages don't have six digit visit counts because "nobody's interested."

Aren't like all these megami games basically the same?

>First person dungeons that look the same
>same monsters
>same mechanics
>little story, little dialogue

Rinse repeat for 40 hours.

Who plays this shit? It's positively ancient.

>>1862607
>It's positively ancient.

Where do you think you are?

>>1853936
Who the rom version? I tried some versinons (h1, t1 etc..). After pacthing, crash at Atlus logo..

>>1863039

What emulator? Don't use zsnes, or old versions of snes9x.

http://www.emucr.com/2014/06/snes9x-testbuild-20140625.html

https://www.dropbox.com/sh/91sakv0qdyxjx9f/cGOfV7ZOKd

http://byuu.org/higan/

http://www.mediafire.com/download/3ucbby63ggtmd19/bsnes+v73+Qt.7z

Choose any of the above. They should all work.
Use up to date Snes9x or bsnes (higan).

>>1863039
>(h1, t1 etc..)

You kidding me? No one uses goodroms anymore. No-Intro or nothing.

>>1863056
I just using wsb for patching.. Using now Lunar ips and the rom is working now thanks anon!

>>1862084
You played it?

Shit this score is like 10/10.

>Sakamoto

That partly explains it.

>>1863381
Just look at the damn thing.
The animations are half assed, it was poorly received in Japan, the graphics are mediocre, and it's a legitimately unfinished game. It was originally designed as an MMORPG, but they didn't have enough time to incorporate the multiplayer aspect. And the online version ended up getting canned.
So, the question is-
Why would anyone want to play an MMORPG without the MMO?

Still, I kind of wish it succeeded because it had a lot of potential going for it.

>>1863476
I played Phantasy Star On-line alone, for months.

>>1863489
Yes, but PSO was properly fleshed in both single player and multiplayer. NINE was barely fleshed out in single player alone.

>>1862607
No, but you're welcome to continue thinking so.

>>1862607
>Rinse repeat for 40 hours.
Wow, it's almost like it's an RPG or something!

>>1862607
>Rinse repeat for 40 hours.
Wow, it's almost as if it's an RPG or something!

>>1863824

Add some variety man. Tensei 1-2 has each floor looking exactly the same. There's no story, there's no talking, no nothing.

>>1864942
Well thankfully Nocturne has varied dungeons and a really good fast paced battle system but it still has the minimalist story and lack of voices.

>>1864942
>Tensei 1-2 has each floor looking exactly the same. There's no story, there's no talking, no nothing.
So what?

>>1864942

Back then the series was pretty much "we Jappanese want to make-uh Wizardry geimu", but this was before Sir-Tech signed away their cash cow trademark to the nips (for whatever inexplicable reason)

You see this guy? You see this guy right here?

FUCK YOU.

Stop showing up in my new fusions. I want NEW demons and ones that aren't useless.

>>1865124
Fuse demons with humans.

>>1865121
too bad the series is more like fallout/wasteland than wizardry

>>1865121
Japan LOVES Wizardry, arguably even more than anyone in the west. They even made anime of it

>>1863039
Make sure it is not a header issue. 9 out 10 times the problem with a patch is because it was made for a rom to have or not have a header present

>>1865139

Yeah... I know...

... I know ...

>>1865032
>So what?

So why fucking play it? It's the most dull shit ever.

Music's nice though. Some of the artwork too. How about I just listen to the music and look at the artwork and cut out all the bullshit?

>>1865152
Play Nocturne instead.
It barely has any of the bullshit that is present in SMT 1 and 2. This guy >>1865121 is kind of right about the older SMT games, but they have their merit.

>>1865152
>playing the grindan gaem for the story
It's a remake of two Fami games from the late 80s. Why are you even here?

>>1865175
Why would you play a role playing game for any reason other than the plot?

>>1865175

and even 80's nes games were better than this.

shit can't compare to final fantasy games. or snes or ps1 ff games.

>grindan

kill yourself. you have to be pretty sad to even want to play this shit. Shit is barely a "game". just numbers on a screen going up/down.

>>1865182
>>>/v/

>>1865185

lol

i like retro games though. but actual games that were not shit. not ancient shit that only turbo nerds with a serious case of autism play.

>>1865139

Actually I just remembered

This picture explains why Sir-Tech sold out to Japan. It's Sir-Tech's ledger from 1990 fiscal year.

You'll know it when you see it.

Final Fantasy 7 here.

THIS is what a REAL rpg looks like.

>>1865189
>Freakin Funky Fuzzballs

wat

>>1865308

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W2EvvaDbqOs

>>1865189
>Product Sales (Japan)

Welp.

>>1865198
/v/-kun pls

go home

>>1865789
/v/ doesn't really care for VII
They prefer VI, IX and V.

And some 13 fags but they should be killed

>>1865828
i wasn't going by preference, anon

there are other, more obvious facts at play concerning that post and his previous attempts

http://www.romhacking.net/forum/index.php?topic=6058.0

New version release.

http://www.mediafire.com/download/am2k2uhbchw40bk/kmt_rc_081614_A.zip (Updated 8-16-14 2:03 AM CST)
081614_A

Fixes:

>Fixed save game screen displaying garbage characters for empty save slots.
>Fixed background not appearing for Big & Small minigame.
>Teleport screens (terminals, Royal Castle, Tranpa spell) now use a scrolling interface to display all options.
>Added subtitles for the MT1 and MT2 title screens.
>Various dialogue and text modifications.

>The translation is now entering the final stages before release. I have started labeling the patches as "release candidates", which means that, barring anything going wrong or no more input during the testing phase, it will be ready for release. I encourage anyone who might still want to affect the development of the translation by reporting bugs or translation errors: Please try out the patch and let me know of anything that needs to be changed. I will be playing through the game myself as well now, and hopefully by the time I finish (which may be a while since I'm a slow player :) ), it will finally be ready for a real release. Thank you everyone for all the help you've given, it has certainly paid off and this will be the product of everyone's cooperation.

>>1866076
Thanks for letting us know!

For anybody wondering, I replaced the old patch with the new patch and my save-game is still working. I use Snes9x if it matters. (I don't actually know where the save games are stored -- the rom file itself, like writing saves to the cartridge? A cache folder?) Will report back if I get any weirdness but I'm not expecting to.

>>1866126

You should use a new version of the rom. Ensure it has the same name as the old file.

The saves are stored as little files with the same name as the rom right beside it.

>>1854968
yes, The Namco 163 offers up to 8 additional sound channels that play wavetable samples while the 175 and 340 do not. Each waveform can be of a configurable length, and each channel has linear volume control. It has $80 bytes of sound RAM shared by channel registers and wavetable samples; at least $40 bytes are dedicated to samples, with more available if not all channels are used.

http://wiki.nesdev.com/w/index.php/Namco_163_audio

>>1866265

How does the SFC version of the score compare?

Can someone post a prepatched rom?

>>1862607
They invented monster catching games.

>>1867565

>implying

>>1867610
They did

>>1865189
Wasn't Sir-Tech making a Wizardry game that was perverted as hell? There was supposed to be a penis mouth monster or something.

>>1867552
I look forward to someone making a longplay of it. (Shin )Megami Tensei is one of those series that I have always liked in audio, visual, and the plot but I'm very shit at first person view games and I usually can't stand random encounters in my RPG unless the battle system is more than just menus or the battle goes by fast.

http://www9.zippyshare.com/v/3218030/file.html

I don't have to read the books to understand the stuff happening in this, do I?

>>1867774

Why is that image so low res? It would make an awesome wallpaper.

>>1867936
>I don't have to read the books to understand the stuff happening in this, do I?

They're low plot dungeon crawlers.

>Guy is a jerk and writes a program to summon demons
>chick
>they're reincarnations of some Gods and can fight back

That's it. The games are just blowing through dungeons.

>>1868053

I've started reading the first one and it's not really grabbing me at all. I don't like that I gotta play as this asshole in the game. I'm probably just going to skip it.

>>1868071

The novels are average teen horror. They would have been completely forgotten if not for the games.

Only Megami Tensei even deals with the plot of the original games. Megami Tensei 2 onwards are original plotlines.

Also try Shin Megami Tensei 3. It's the first "modern" game in the series. The gameplay of some of the older ones can seem rather archaic.

>>1868078

Well I played through most of the first SMT game so I'll probably be able to handle it.

>>1868071

Akemi Nakajima is a douche who never really gets the cummuppance for causing all this shit and getting so many people killed.

>>1868084

I should add that I played the iOS port. I've started KMT and it's kind of annoying for me to control cause I'm used to being able to sidestep and the turning is choppy. I don't know if that second thing is just my emulator/computer or not.

>>1868091

Well that sucks.

>>1868103

>cause the deaths of most of your classmates, teacher and countless others
>become a super hero who goes on cool adventures
>no one ever calls him out on this

>>1868107

Would you call out some guy who could summon scary demons?

>>1868110
In a game series where you can punch out Satan, some nerdy high schooler isn't all that scary.

Besides, I can write a Demon Summoning Program in BASIC and run it off a smart phone. Let's see Mr. 1980s do that.

>>1868084
Just remember, when SMT 3 says "Hard mode" it fucking means it

Hell yeah, good timing
I'm almost through SMT2 and I've been wanting to play the Original
Now the only thing that's missing is for someone to translate the third book and we're gold

Is there a save point and healer in Valhalla or do you have to use the hypnotist to go back to the first town?

I'm at Valhalla and wondering if I should continue. Since the game is JUST a dungeon crawler, it should basically just be the same shit over and over again right? And it's basically just grinding and catching pokemon.

It has some nice ideas though, like the ability to talk to monsters. You can actually walk around high level dungeons, and with a bit of luck be able to negotiate your way out of fights. That adds a tiny bit more of a dimension to the fights since it gives you that option.

>>1865198
Final Fantasy is for faggots.

>>1870216

>Final fantasy is for real gamers not turbo autists

fixed that for ya

>>1870219
>button mashing to win
>real gaming

>>1870227

>grinding to win
>real gaming

I would kill for the ability to have the NES soundtrack on the SNES version. It's so much more playable in 16 bit and being able to look at a FULL map.

Damn those chiptunes rock. I can see myself finishing this game just because the music is pretty good.

SMT3 on the other hand...

>>1870216
>>1870219
>>1870227
>>1870263
>any rpg
>for real gamers
>implying any RPGs are good
>implying they all aren't shitty spreadsheet simulators
>implying any kinetic skill is needed to win
>implying action RPGs aren't just half-assed RPGs
>implying SRPGs aren't just half-assed strategy games
>implying FPRPGs aren't just half-assed FPS games
>19XX

>>1870505

The SNES version of the scores are objectively better.

>>1870860
>objectively

Please stop /v/.

>>1870898

>he prefers bleep bloops over the superior snes score that replicate specific instruments and has superior sythns

>>1870912

I don't have an opinion on the matter. I haven't played either of them. I just want the argumentative teens of /v/ to leave.

>>1853992
As far as I can tell, if you have a fairly modern computer, there's no reason not to run higan/bsnes

these games suck and only virgin dweebs play them.

I own Kyuuyaku Megami Tensei. I'm gonna go over and give it a little smooch

Welcome to English, bud

>>1870948
I remember when that image was originally mocking Elder Scroll fans.

>>1870948
>see this post with no knowledge of the game whatsoever
>download it with the romhack above
>mfw it's a dungeon crawler with rpg combat, leveling and item systems
>mfw it's gothic and full of demons
thanks for the bait but i'll stay for the game nigger

>>1870948
And how does that possibly affect you? Why does it matter what a bunch of people you presumably don't like anyway do with their own time in their own privacy? Heck, it's not even leaking over into a thread for something you do enjoy. Why be rude and bring it up unless you're shitposting? Grow up.
>>>/v/

>>1871228
you made a right choice

>>1871245
This
do you go to a theatre into a movie you hate and start screaming that you don't like it at everyone who looks like they're enjoying themselves?

>tfw they'll never finish translating ALL of the shining force 3 scenarios

>>1871283
But they already did. I finished Scenario 3 earlier this year.

>>1871285
WHAT YEAR IS THIS!?

so can you appear in front of charon over and over with no penalty? sorry i'm going in blind with no previous info on the game just wanna know if I should avoid dying and restart or can I just visit charon over and over?

>>1871395
Charon will revive you at the last save point and you get keep the experience/demons/items you got when you died for half of your macca. Otherwise, you simply have to reload your save data.

>>1871483
thank you

Is there a link for the GBA version of SMT? Not the Devil Childs one, I'm talking about the classic.
English patch?

>>1871621
GBA port of SMT? It's everywhere. i.e. emuparadise
No English patch though. SNES is the only one translated.

i'm about 2 hours in how am I doing?

>>1871245

I bet you're fat.

>>1871789
The best way to find out how well you're doing is to try your luck against the boss. Try filling out the automap before you do so to make sure you're doing some grinding.

>>1871818
haha yeah the minotaur just wrecked my shit

>>1871881

I barely beat the Minotaur at level 12 on my first attempt. I really don't know how I did it.

I tried Medusa last night and she wrecked me so I know I have to do some grinding. Just out of curiosity, does MT2 have less grinding or is it the same?

>>1872108
>Minotaur and Medusa are bosses 1 and 2 respectively.

Holy shit.

I just realized that SMTIV was giving MT 1 a shoutout.

>>1872110

Damn, that's pretty cool. I still haven't played SMT4.

Am I crazy for wanting to wait and finish the first two SMTs before playing 3 and 4 even though they aren't connected story-wise?

>>1872120
Eh, not so much. I guess it really depends on your tastes. SMT1 was my first and I'm enjoying MT1.

Some would tell you it's better to start off at the beginning because MT1 lacks a ton of features the later games have. I'm having fun with MT1 because I like both MT and dungeon crawlers. Honestly, MT1 feels like Etrian Odyssey/Wizardry mixed with Pokemon.

But yeah, you have a road ahead of you. Once you get deeper into the series, you'll start seeing more complex demon fusion and conversations. You can make some ridiculous demons with the right planning.

>>1872136
I'm an idiot. I thought you were talking about MT1 instead of SMT1/2.

Everything I just said honestly still holds up, though. The later SMT games are more complex than both 1 and 2. Although 1 probably has my favorite setting/storyline/general vibe in the series. Played Aeon Genesis' translation back in high school and the shit blew my mind.

It was a breath of fresh air after only playing RPGs like FF and Pokemon my entire life. Not that I'm trashtalking either of those series. I still enjoy them quite a bit.

>>1872141
>>1872136

I've already played all the Personas except for the P2 Duology and I've also played Soul Hackers and most of SMT1. Playing KMT now because I want more MegaTen but don't have the money to buy any and I'm waiting for Atlus to localize SMT2 on iOS before playing that.

>>1872110
finding it even harder to wait for an aus release now, SMTIV looks soooo fun :(

>>1872108
I was around level 10 or 11 and didn't have much problem with the minotaur. Having a full party of summoned demons definitely helped since it's easier to soak up the damage. Then I just spammed all my magic til he died.

>>1871789

Neko girl is good to get.
Cerberus is really great too.

>>1871228
>mfw it's gothic and full of demons

I have only tried the snes games. But this is what I like about them. It feels a bit like horror. I haven't played the later games, or the Persona games, but I've looked at videos. And they seem to be all kawaii cutesy Japanese high school stuff with none of the horror.

>>1872368

Persona 3 has quite a bit of death and despair but Persona 4 has barely any.

>make it to Mazurka
>gets pretty deep into it
>encounters a group of either Loas or Vampires
>[character] has lost a level!
MOTHERFUCKER

>>1872497

>Yumiko
>113 HP

Jesus.

I poured like 20 points into VIT for both of them before I did anything else.

>>1872478
Persona 3 handled it fucking horribly, though.

>>1872747

I thought the atmosphere of the final month was pretty great.

>>1872110
4 has a lot of shoutouts to the mainline games, from MT1 to Strange Journey. It's really kind of neat.

That is an awfully specific amount.

This guy kicks ass.

>>1873175

What, that dude gave me like 11k macca. Paid for all my new shiny equipment upgrades. Is it really just a random amount?

>>1873191

Are you shitting me? That's fucking stupid.

>>1872707

Nakajima is the only one who really needs 20 vit. I only gave Yumiko like 10 and she hasn't yet died from anything. Her int is so high it protects her from the occasional spell.

>>1873192
It could be based on a bunch of different things, it's probably not just random.

>>1873175

1813 x 2 = ?

>>1873203

Either way I feel ripped off.

Are there scans anywhere of the manual for KMT or at least the manuals for the NES games?

>>1872368
Persona 3 and 4 are too anime leaned for my liking but Persona 1 and 2 IS and EP are goth

>>1873224
well there's this I guess
http://www.nintendo.co.jp/wii/vc/vc_kmt/index.html

>>1873332

agreed

>>1872769
The final month was just me immediately going to bed every day because I wanted it to be over.

>>1875151

You can do that?

>GUYS THE WORLD IS ENDING SAVE THE WORLD!
>Fuck that I'm tired.

>>1876793

ha

Shit, what should I choose?

>>1878105
The third one. The others are decoys. If you don't have it by the end of the game, you can't beat it. If you buy the wrong one, you can get another Amethyst at the same place.

>>1878110
I thougt so too. That lady had some trust in her words.

>>1873332
I don't know why Persona 1 gets so much flak from the fanbase. I thought it had some of the strongest atmosphere in the entire Megaten series.

>>1878169
Like some of the earlier SMT games, Persona 1 was kind of archaic in design. It just gets a lot of flak for its gameplay, which is understandable.

>>1878182

The early MT and SMT would feel way less archaic if they showed characters and things on screen before you come up to them.

It's this old PC FP dungeon crawling style from the 80's. They could have improved upon it for the SNES but didn't.

It's so utterly weird to walk around an empty room that's supposed to be a cafe, and then suddenly have people appear out of nowhere every step you take.

>>1878169
It makes me sad that people consider it too dated while most of them are fine with P2. And I think combat system was pretty damn good. It's not flawless but the grid added a lot of possibilities.

My only gripe with the game is that PSP remake didn't have option of original OST. Or they could at least test the new music more, because some of the tracks get annoying very soon.

>>1878190

Romhack replacing the PSP score with the PS1 score when?

>>1854083
>DDS novels in english

Waite, are all three books finally translated?

can you post a link

>>1854083
>DDS novels in english

hold on, are all three books finally translated?

can anyone post a link?

>>1879027
He probably meant Avatar Tuner, the novel based on Digital Devil Saga (PS2).
BentoBooks is releasing them officially in the Unites States.

>>1879050
Oh, darn.

I wanted to read the last book in the original 80's trilogy that inspired the entire game series.

(First two books were fan-translated)
I was really hoping to finish the third one.

(still untranslated for some reason)

It would also be neat to read the related “New Digital Devil Story” books.

(any news on that?)

>>1878182
I think the battle system is actually genius. If it be refined better, I'd love it.

What I loved about P1 compared to the others that it feel genuinely surreal. Like a more darker version of Earthbound.

>>1878190
I think a big a problem is that, the western Megaten Before late 2009, it consisted of some of the smartest people in terms of gaming fanbases, but after that...holy shit, what the fuck happened?!

>>1853936
what emulator is that? and what are those filter settings?

>>1879728

some shitty crt shit

>>1879728
Looks like retroarch with one of the 500 built in crt shader things.

bump

>>1879079
I started reading these and it was weird.

I never expected to see muscular purple man sex but here we are.

>>1889742
welcome to 4chan. here's your towel

So I've used rom patches before, but I just want to make sure, you have to rename this patch to the name of the rom in order to get it to work, right? Most patches I've downloaded were already named close to the game's title, not like this kmt_blahblahblah stuff. Just want to be safe

>>1889903
Just apply the patch to the rom using lunarIPS.

>>1889929
Never tried that before, but thanks

>>1889974
SNES roms are tricky. It's not really a problem anymore since every patch is pretty much basing itself off of the no-intro set, but older patches require headers and other shit, so just make sure you make a back up before patching.

>>1853936

these games suck balls

>>1890354
so does ur mum kek