/vr/ - Retro Games

===NEWS===

The "So You Want to Play Some Fucking DOOM" image got updated! See the attached image.

GMOTA Guy needs a sword name! Go pick it for him! http://strawpoll.me/2330484

Doomhack! It's... well, it's something alright. It's also legal now! http://pastebin.com/X5dddz3F

Doom 4 reveal! Well, kinda. Only those actually at Quakecon got to see it firsthand, but here's a basic rundown of what happened there. http://pastebin.com/W8P7fdq3

The rumor mill/Tarnsman says Back to Saturn X's second episode will come out on August 31st (a day earlier!).

hobomaster22 is making a mod manager for Doom in the vein of Quake Injector, and has built-in /idgames support! http://www.doomworld.com/vb/doom-general/69346-doom-frontend-development-beta/

Here's a music stream that only plays Doom music, 24/7; feel free to listen if you're interested http://liquiddoom.net/ (direct link 403s)

===POPULAR MODS===

/vr/:
200 Minutes of /vr/: http://www.doomworld.com/idgames/?id=17781
GMOTA: http://forum.zdoom.org/viewtopic.php?p=742401
HDoom: http://www.best-ever.org/download?file=m12-hdoom-techdemo5.pk3
Metroid Dreadnought: http://zandronum.com/forum/showthread.php?tid=4561
The Space Pirate: https://drive.google.com/file/d/0BxbbtKR5bll_anFPaVhUQVZqcnM/edit?usp=sharing (tutorial: http://youtu.be/mrFF8LCZw5Y))

Other:
Doom RPG: http://forum.zdoom.org/viewtopic.php?f=19&t=33292
DoomRL Arsenal: http://forum.zdoom.org/viewtopic.php?t=37044
Hideous Destructor: http://forum.zdoom.org/viewtopic.php?t=12973
Pirate Doom: http://forum.zdoom.org/viewtopic.php?t=32674

Got something news-worthy? Reply to this post, or it'll likely be missed.

Hello, new thread.

>>1863263

Goodbye, old thread.

Post waifus for new thread

Does anybody know how I can get Grezzo or Grezzo 2 to work on Zandronum?

Also, what are some fun wads?

>>1863281

>>1863286
As much as I admire this guy's output and contribution to amusing Doom art, it irks me a little that most of his demons look the same (at least, their heads do)

>>1863259
Waitaminute.

Could you make the grappling hook do that?

>>1863290

It's a gal.

and yeah, but at least her style is cute

>>1863292

I replied in the other thread too you donut.

Sadly no. the grappler's projectile is 2big.

I guess I could make the grappler's animation fire a harmless hitscan but it'd look weird watching the grappler chain bounce off those grates and have the switch get flicked anyway

>>1863294
is that gun barrel meant to appear on the layer above the imp's head?

>>1863297
Just wanted to make sure that you got it.
Ah, well. 'Twould be cool to sling the grappling hook around and hit switches/get bitches.

>>1863298

No, from the looks of things the imp, being the dumb shit he is, as shouldered the shotgun and he's trying to use it like a rocket launcher with the barrel pointing over his shoulder.

>>1863303

it would. but projectiles don't like grates, it has to be a hitscan attack of some kind, and Blaz has no hitscan weaponry. So a usable switchflicker item will have to come into play

>>1863220
The concentration camp level was too short to be remarkable. Also there wasn't anything really shocking on it, it didn't impress me a bit. I bet life on Auschwitz was way harder than just having to push levers all day, but I guess they were short on budget, and coulndn't afford to extend that level.

And what I meant by cartoon-ish villains is the fact that they are unidimensional villains. They are made in a way that to ensure the player will have no remorse or hesitation at all when killing them. They have no back story at all. There's nothing try to explain why Deathshead and Frau became such monsters, all of the nazi grunts are completely voluntary to their services and none of them were forced into doing what they do (when in fact, during ww2, contratry to the Waffen SS, almost half of regular German soldiers never agreed with Hitler or the nazi party, they were just fighting for their homeland). There's not a single soldier that decides that his own life is more important than his fuhrer's ideals and decides to drop the gun and surrender. They are not humans, they don't feel, they are souless killing machines. They are no better than Call of Duty's evil Russians wanting to explode America just for the lulz. Hell, they even replaced the dogs with robots, just to make sure that the player would never feel bad for shooting them. That's really ridiculous and uninspired.
Check Max Payne 3, Tomb Raider, or Spec Ops: The Line and you will see some really good examples of what well-elaborated enemies are.

>This has almost nothing to do with Call of Duty.
Just look at the ladder/rope mechanics videos, and compare them to the Dogs and Fish AI videos of CoD Ghosts. Look at how the devs (and the fans) are all like "oh look at this! we did the best thing ever!"

>>1863310
>They are made in a way that to ensure the player will have no remorse or hesitation at all when killing them

how in the world is this a bad thing
literally how is this a bad thing

>>1863310
>during ww2
You have to remember, TNO takes place in the 60s, the Nazis have won and have taken over the world. A large portion of people likely believe in the Nazi ideals at this point.

>Hell, they even replaced the dogs with robots, just to make sure that the player would never feel bad for shooting them.
Or... Maybe they thought giant robot dogs would be cool? I think you're kinda just making stuff up at this point.

>well-elaborated enemies
I can give you Spec Ops, but I played Max Payne 3 and Tomb Raider, and both of those had pretty cliche enemies.

>Just look at the ladder/rope mechanics videos, and compare them to the Dogs and Fish AI videos of CoD Ghosts. Look at how the devs (and the fans) are all like "oh look at this! we did the best thing ever!"
Nobody thought that climb a rope was going to be the best thing ever, same with the fishes and Dogs in Ghosts. It certainly doesn't undermine the game in any way.

>>1863317
He wants a deep, engaging story.
Which is to say, he doesn't want a Wolfenstein game.

>>1863245
>4chan own mods
>Samsara
I need details. This is news to me

>>1863317
It's not necessarily bad depending of the situation, but it's a clear sign of lazy writing.

In Doom for example, I don't need a detailed background story for every imp that I kill, explaining in details his school life, teenage days, first romance, first job, until the day that he was forcefully called to enlist the demon army and be a part of the main attack force that would invade Earth. But this is not the case with WNO. I was expecting much more from a game that was seeing itself such as a "game with deep plot".

>>1863341
>selling itself as a game with a deep plot
News to me. I just heard that it was s'posed to be better than the last Wolfenstein.

>>1863339

Not much to detail.
The game idea started on /v/ after I got off a game of ZDoom Wars and started a retro FPS thread, back in /v/'s less faggoty days just kidding, /v/ was always faggoty.

One anon had an idea: The ZDoom wiki holds a whole ton of information on all of the native idtech1 games, right? How hard would it be to put Corvus, Chex Warrior, Strifeguy, and Doomguy in a single mod to have them fight to death with their own mods?
I had nothing better to do that week, so I threw together a shitty build doing exactly that. /v/ fucking loved it, and servers were fucking packed from the start.

From there, /v/ helped along with development (they even came up with the idea of Roles in order to help everyone focus on a specific niche, as well as expanding past idtech1 for a more filled roster), and when /vg/ came to be then discussion moved there.
And then /vr/ happened and the rest is history.

http://www.best-ever.org/download?file=te13-crossover-0.1.pk3 - If you want a huge blast into the past, this was the very first build that was posted on /v/.

>>1863310
>concentration camp level

Honestly? From a gameplay standpoint, that was one of the few levels I actually liked, if only due to the premise of:
>There's some shit I need.
>It's somewhere in the camp.
>Go exploring.

>>1863358
Speaking of concentration camp levels, there was this Wolfenstein 3D mod a couple years ago that took place inside of a concentration camp, and the ModDB people got mad because of the graphic sprites they made for the holocaust victims. They released a trailer video, but I can't recall if the mod ever came out.

Anybody remember what it was called?

>>1863356
Do you have any other past builds?

>>1863326
In Max Payne 3 the enemies feels "human" enough. The drug dealers for example, they are cold-blooded mercyless murderers just like the nazis in WNO, but the game explains why they are like this. They were not born monsters, they were made into monsters, the society and the corrupt government made these monsters, and every time you put a bullet in the head of one of them, you know that you are not just killing a monster, you are killing someone that once was a child with dreams, a potential laborer, that could be corrected and re-introduced into a normal and productive life. On the police department level, there is one part that one of the corrupt cops decides to drop his gun and surrender. He notices that his life was much more worth than defending his corrupt boss, and he wants to live. Unlike in TNO's ridiculous chainsaw scene, it's completely up to the player to decide if he should kill him or not, and the decision is completely personal and moral, and causes absolutely no impact on the game. You start to think If you let him live, well, he is a corrupt cop, maybe he can hurt more people, but he is a middle-aged man, he probably has a family, what will happen to them? It's completely up to you to decide.
Tomb Raider doesn't go this deep, it doesn't touches the "choices" camp, but it at least provides you with a very good backstory that explains why these guys are so brutal. And in one part near the end, when the ancient jap guys wakes up and go slashing everyone in half, in a brief conversation, a group of these guys decides to try to negotiate some alliance with Lara so they can get out of there alive, they even argue against each other for a while until one of them decides to say "fuck it", and take the lead into attacking Lara, and making the others follow him.

See, this is what I mean. This the kind of stuff that lacked in WNO.

>>1863362

I think I go back to the 0.26-delta build, I deleted most of them because they were taking up a massive amount of space.
However...a non-channer friend, PresidentPeople, is a bit of a archival nut and I think he's probably got every single build that was released. And probably most that weren't released, too.

If you're interested in any more, you may have to ask him on the forums or in the IRC.

>>1863367
So basically we want our Doom 4 demons to be as 1 dimensional as possible.
And that dimension? Hell.

>>1863360
>but I can't recall if the mod ever came out.

It was completely retooled to be about Mutants instead of Jews and was released as Operation Eisenfaust Origins.

>>1863367
>They were not born monsters, they were made into monsters, the society and the corrupt government made these monsters, and every time you put a bullet in the head of one of them, you know that you are not just killing a monster, you are killing someone that once was a child with dreams, a potential laborer, that could be corrected and re-introduced into a normal and productive life.
Do you autists REALLY think that while you're killing badguys in a mindless shooter like Max Payne 3? Top lol.

>>1863367
You can apply this same logic to basically any enemy out there.

> It's completely up to you to decide.
No it's not, you go through the levels of Max Payne mowing down drug dealers and corrupt police left and right.

>>1863386
>You can apply this same logic to basically any enemy out there.
The difference though is whether or not the game supports this logic through any level of detail.

>>1863310
>bet life on Auschwitz was way harder than just having to push levers all day

They had an orchestra, theater and a soccer team. Truly, it couldn't have been worse conditions.

>>1863407
If you ignore the gas rooms, it was completely fine otherwise!

>>1863375
Ah, that I recall now!
Thanks.
I'll look for it and see if its any good.

The Wolf3D has quite a community of modders to this day still, although nowhere near as big, though.
There was this one WWI Trench Warfare themed one (not the one called Trench Warfare) that was actually really immersive.

If you want to see what the Wolf3D community has done in terms of modernized source ports, check out ECWolf and its techdemo .pk3. I think it actually incorporates some ZDoom code as well.

>>1863417
>although nowhere near as big, though.
As big as Doom's, I mean.

And "Unsung" is the name of the WWI mod I was thinking of.

>>1863412
Considering just how many survivors there still are to this day, you are probably right.

>>1863382
You are so stupid, goddamn.

>>1863432
Just move on.

Repostin'.
Someone please add my OC to the big picture of all RIP 'N' TEAR spin offs.

Is there a wad that lets me play as the demons?

>>1863458

No good ones.

yet.

>>1863458
>play as demon
>fight different doom marines, colour coordinated to indicate their weapons
might be cool

>>1863458
Possess me

>>1863458
Theres something called monstermod.
Just watch:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q0JfKckXzyM

>>1863207
what about the rest?

>>1863432
>>1863435

>>1863417
>>1863420
do you happen to remember the name of a wolf3d mod with a female character, and a taser-type melee weapon? i remember seeing that a long time ago, but haven't seen any evidence of its existence. I've come to the point where i think it might have just been a dream

>>1863467
Possess Me is good. It gets frustrating, though, when you find that a lot of Doom levels have end switches that are behind doors that are too short for barons to fit through, preventing you from moving to the next level in them.

>>1863483

If I use them. I will probably use them all as I fucking love the visual effects they provide and they're genuinely useful.

I'd swap the gems out for the magic spheres from King of Dragons, making simple edits to cover various elements.

>>1863493
That sounds vaguely familiar, actually.
If I come across something like that, I'll let you know. And by that, I mean mention it in this Doom General.

Anything else you remember?
For example,
whether it was in actual DOS or it used Wolf4SDL?
Require Wolf3d or Spear of Destiny?
Full TC or just a mod?

/doom/, I need help. I gotta know where the individual weapons from this Brutal Doom companion mod come from so I can use them without having to play through the agonizingly shitty outdated version of BD they're attached too.

Can anyne help me out?

>>1863508
a little bit more information might help

Is there a console command for disabling sounds that Doomguy makes, like grunting and stuff?

Jesus Fuck.
I think I got more gameplay out of this one Megawad than all the AAA games I've played for the last year.

And that's not even including all the savescumming and failed attempts it took to finish this thing.
Hideous Destructor's hard, yo.

Made a new MIDI. If the guy compiling that metal midi thing is around, well here you go.

https://www.sendspace.com/file/1vcbcy

>>1863417
Heh, I don't really see the point of modding for Wolf3D when even Vanilla Doom was pretty much the exact same game but better. And with ZDoom, you can actually recreate Wolf3D really accurately. Though I guess the ECWolf port is fucking awesome, and I can't wait for other Wolf engine games on it like ROTT.

>>1863508
>from this Brutal Doom companion mod

Gonna need a bit more info on that, chief.

>>1863595
My biggest selling point for ECWolf would have to be making roguelikes with greater ease, what with what I've heard of being able to modify all the tiles through its scripting language (which I can only assume will be ACS-like)

>>1863595
>Vanilla Doom was pretty much the exact same game but better.
Whoa, that is kind of a broad statement.
>you can actually recreate Wolf3D really accurately
True, and playing the Wolf3D TC cooperatively with friends over Zandronum is a fucking blast.
>Though I guess the ECWolf port is fucking awesome, and I can't wait for other Wolf engine games on it like ROTT.
I would like to see that. Corridor 7 and Operation Body Count weren't all that great.

>>1863631
>first-person roguelike
My cock is hard.
And yes, I've played Dungeon Hack, and its cool. But would like to see more.

>>1863502
it was a TC, I remember it had pretty good pixel art. it probably used wolf4SDL but i am not sure.

>>1863631
>>1863638
I was actually talking about a Wolf3D roguelike with my friend, how didn't they make one yet? Seems like a Wolf3D roguelike is more fitting than a Doom roguelike, you go floor to floor, collecting treasures and finding secrets while killing nazis.

Of course, such a feature ain't in yet but this is why I eagerly await the upcoming versions, including support for other Wolf3D games such as ROTT. Will be so. Damn. Hype.

>>1863647
Good question.
Now that you mention it, it does seem to fit well.

Would love to see you guys work on one.

I wonder how the randomized dungeons would work. Could a Mersenne Twister PRNG be implemented in ECWolfs scripting language, or ACS for that matter?

>>1863653
There are source ports of ROTT in the meantime.

>>1863523
>>1863626

Goddamn I'm stupid.

http://www.moddb.com/mods/brutal-doom/addons/feel-boss-mk2-re-loaded

>>1863656
Yeah, there's WinROTT but it's.. really awkward to deal with..

>>1863662
>>1863656
The ROTT ports don't run all that well, is the problem. And they don't have enough options.

>>1863656
What I'd like to see in a Wolf3D roguelike is a randomized objective every game.

For example on one playthrough you're gonna start in the bottom of the castle and you have to escape. In another playthrough, you have to go IN the castle and assassinate Hitler for example.

>>1863667
There's that as well.
>>1863671
Oh yeah, I imagine that could be completely possible at one point..

>>1863452

>>1863680

So many of those are so fucking awful it's not even funny.

>>1863687
You say that everytime its posted.
I think we know that by now.

>>1863452
>>1863680
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-W6BfKkaI5c

Is there a realm667-like repository somewhere with enemies from other 2.5D shooters setup for Doom? I'd love to incorporate some of the stuff from System Shock and Blood, but it would be quite a detour to figure out how to make a new monster from a sprite sheet.

>>1863687
Why are they not funny? Examples?
Are they even supposed to be funny?

>guy destroying everyone so bad they leave in mm8bitdm, first time playing im alone verse him
>at 3 frags left go make a sandwich, guy is still flying around the map looking for me but im still dead
>read some funny articles on reddit, come back another 15 minutes later he's STILL flying around waiting to kill me, asking where I am

jesus

>>1863728
>read some funny articles on reddit
You just had to say it.

Was Demonsteele ever updated with those new cool sword sprites?

This more of a test and proof of concept more than anything else right now, I want this thing's reaction time to be a little faster and I want the projectiles to not kill me if I happen to be in the path of them.

But hey, it's pretty cool.

Why is BURL TUMD's pistol so fun?

>>1863749
Make those spikes do a special damage type.
Give the player complete immunity to that damage type.

>>1863743

Yes.
They're really cool, except rottsprite shat out on me and I haven't been able to give the transition frames proper rotation.

But then again anime transition frames are usually terrible so I guess that balances things out.

>>1863749
What does the player hurt? The tiny projectiles the ball shoots?
Did you add the flag CMF_TRACKOWNER to prevent causing damage towards the player?

>>1863759
Is.. Is it uploaded?

I've been on a HUGE Demonsteele binge right now but the version I'm playing has the mishmash of sword sprites.

It's a little annoying to look at but it's still fun to play.

>>1863761

Nope, but if Kyle's auto-pk3-creating-.bat thing works you can get an up-to-date build pronto.

https://github.com/TerminusEst13/Folded1000Times

Download ZIP, extract to somewhere, and run _zip.bat.
Viola, a new pk3/pk7 for your pleasure.

If that doesn't work, let me know and I'll upload it.

>>1863760

Uh, where exactly would I put that? Because the projectile flies out, dies, and spawns a "monster" that shoots those darts.

I have no clue what the fuck I'm doing when it comes to behavior like this. This is most likely similar to the same problem I was having with the big spikeball's dart scatter

>>1863765
I'd help you if you would paste the code into pastebin.
Because I dont even know if you use A_CustomMissile, maybe you use A_SpawnItemEx or shit.
Just paste the code or upload the current build.

>>1863764
I just put the files in a zip instead of running a bat.

Thank you very much for linking this, I am very happy.

>>1863767

I'll just post the code.

http://pastebin.com/f0bYM8YN

also this is a question that I feel should be answered by you guys:

Should the spike turret be targetable and destroyable by enemies or should it be something they ignore and it vanishes after a set period?

>Playing DoomRPG/RLA
>Finally manage to scrounge up all the stuff I need to build that Autocannon I've been eyeballing
>Whip it out and fire it
>MFW
I was hoping for something like a roided up Gatling Gun instead of a single shot sniper cannon.

>>1863770
Monsters being attack should immediately change their target and try to destroy the turret I'd say. If every monster would attack the turret, it'd be useless in crowded maps, being immediately destroyed. If monsters would not change their target, it could shoot forever and ever, being overpowered.

>>1863771
Gif is what I was imagining it to be like. The demolition chaingun turned out to be what I wanted it to be, but that looks so bland.

>>1863771
Yeah, it's frustrating how you never really know what you're going to get.

>>1863773
>>1863770
Oh and took a look at your code:

Change
>CTPK C 4 a_custommissile ("bigspike")
to
>CTPK C 4 a_custommissile ("bigspike",0,0,0,CMF_TRACKOWNER)
Now the bigspike actor knows whos the real owner and can "walk" through him without damaging him.

>>1863771
Gif is what I was imagining it to be like. The demolition chaingun turned out to be what I wanted it to be, but that looks so bland.

>>1863773

actually it'd have some use in crowded situations if you shoot it up into the air.

I'll give it a timer too though

>>1863784
Dont know if you're a babby in coding, but use A_Countdown + ReactionTime

>>1863786

I tried that, doesn't work. Possibly because of the MONSTER flag I added to the turret sphere.

I'm assuming you need to add that so it can track and attack monsters on its own.

Furthermore using CMF_Trackowner doesn't work either. most likely because the turretmissile and turretsphere are two different entities and it forgets the owner in the process.

>>1863789
Yea, just realized the turret is actually a monster, not a projectile. Whoops.
I suggest you make the projectiles and the player same species and add +THRUSPECIES, or you could do the same with +GHOST and +THRUGHOST.
And instead of A_CountDown its also possible to do A_GiveInventory and check for a certain amount of inventory, then call A_Die.

I ended up not using MONSTER for my own such projectile, but rather, used FRIENDLY. Could help.

>>1863792

That did it. and yeah I was contemplating the a_giveinventory idea earlier

When I'm not going full retard and actually making progress in making cool weapons, I have a lot of fun with this stuff. So I appreciate the help.

>Get to play MSX on Hell Revealed 1
>This is cool
>Map 07-arachnophobia
>Oh shit lots of Arachnotrons
>Die
>Remember i have the NailShotgun
>80/80 rounds left
>Proceed to kill everything

2 of the most satisfactory sounds in the world, Nailshotgun's sound and Arachnotron's death sound

>>1863915

That nail shotgun is a fucking beast.

>>1863281

Tried to finish my OC.
DIO is a big guy, I wanted to draw him smaller, but then he would lose a lot of details.

>>1863930

>>1863930
whoops

>>1863235
>16 DAYS
what does this refer to

>>1863947
back to saturn x episode 2 im pretty sure

looking forward to it, the first release was amazing

What are some level packs/megawads about dark, gothic ruins?

just doodled this.
is there any archvile-tan art? I haven't seen any.. anyway like it or rip it? ((there is a version with lips, but who likes that stuff?))

>>1863972

Woah. I dig your style.

>>1863972
>animu
>not mango
I love it.
This is how HDoom Archvile should look like, some sort of rotten female corpse, not a chubby whore.

>>1863972
>those hair styles
bald pls

>>1863972

>>1863972
>some sweet arch-vag
I've never been so scareoused

I still prefer this one

Would a conversion of ROTT to ECWolf be technically feasible with all the DECORATE stuff the sourceport adds?

>>1864001
No need for a conversion, since ROTT will be a part of ECWolf in the future.

>>1863997
Jesus. Why is she so fucking fat

>>1863972
Needs hair and horns.

Seriously though, some great demonic stuff you drew here.
I like the horns.

>>1864002
really? What else do you know?
This is very much relative to my interests.

>>1864014
The website states this, I believe. I asked that question simply out of curiosity and wanting to try and recreate the guns.

I can't wait to see what the shotgun will look like in Demonsteele.

I'm new to using Doombuilder, and have been working with it for a few months now. Can I ask why a platform that is NOT risen to the ceiling is treated as such in the game?

>>1864018
One thing I was wondering about in Demonsteele though.

I noticed that tapping the attack button lets you swing really fast, but holding it has a really slow swing rate.

Are the slower swings meant to be heavier and stronger or is it just to encourage tapping more?

>>1863728
>mm8bitdm
>read some funny articles on reddit
>thinking that going afk without spectating or letting people know is funny
Yup. You sure are a MM8BDM player.
You have to be 18 or older to post here, by the way.

>>1864097
He made a ":P" face everytime he killed me, rude.

Whats wrong with megaman deathmatch?

>>1863479
monster mod
empathy
hellspawn
azclasses
and mop beta
i dont know the links sorry

>>1864109
>Whats wrong with megaman deathmatch?
It's popular.

>>1864117
Spoken like a true hipster

>>1863245

Doom: Golden Souls is now in Pre-Beta

>>1863972
CUTIE.

Do you happen to upload your art anywhere like tumblr, DA or w/e?

I drew that archville with the lips + gross punk hair awhile back haha, I was thinking about making her more toothy and as u have proven that is hecka sexy.

>>1864109
It's played by retards and children. Like you.

>>1863360
Think it was called Sonderkommando or something like that.

time for sad

http://vocaroo.com/i/s0heDupS2DT1

>>1863310
>They are made in a way that to ensure the player will have no remorse or hesitation at all when killing them. They have no back story at all. There's nothing try to explain why Deathshead and Frau became such monsters, all of the nazi grunts are completely voluntary to their services and none of them were forced into doing what they do

Yes, it's fucking Wolfenstein, it was always simplistic and goofy, Wolf3D was like an exploitation film made as a videogame, it was highly controversial in it's time.

>>1863417
There's some pretty cool shit there.
I really loved Castle Totenkopf: SDL Edition

>>1863972
LOVELY

>>1864003
In what fucking world is that considered fat, besides emaciated martian world?

I don't see the /vr/ server on doomseeker...
Come on I need my survival samsara action.

>>1864154
This is by far the saddest part of Masters of Doom.

>>1863281
>the worst linework known to man
>lazy coloring
>hippo hooves for hands
>gun is a plastic prop, a semi-molten one at that
0/10 would not bang

>>1863458
Last year we played something like that in deathmatch, Internal conflict I think.

>>1863458
There is Beast Incarnation but it has a bunch of custom demons.

>>1864030
>or is it just to encourage tapping more?

This, yes

>>1864005
That would be fine for Diabolist-tan.
Not that she will exist someday but...

>>1864307
>recolor arch-vile tan, add horns and make her voice deeper
Done.

But I wasn't shitposting!
I guess I understand that they are stingy with BD posts though, specially after the shitstorms, and it was a bad time to post.
Yes I'm ban evading because fuck that, I'M INUCENT
>>1863771
Play Project MSX? The autocannon there is sex.
You probably have tried it though.

>>1864326
Are the janitors serious? Is this real?

What's wrong with sperglord edition now?

>>1864331
It's not their fault really, there was a shitstorm earlier about BD not being in the pic (and the post above mine was >no bd so yeah). Janny though I was trying to start shit I guess.
I reposted the queston a while later and got deleted too, but at least I got a reply explaining why BDSE wasn't on the pic.

>>1863658
There's no way to do this. You will need to learn to mod by yourself, and extract these weapons and put them on a more modern version of BD.

>>1864212
Is this fucking fanfiction about John Romero?
This is the most pathetic, melodramatic crap I've ever seen written.

>>1864367
Not him, but it's from Master's of Doom

Exactly as that anon said

>>1864124

I do have a deviantart, but, I dont upload stuff there.

ANYBODY WANTS ANYTHING?

>>1864421
Doomguy reloading his Super Shotgun.

What are some games (besides Doom, Heretic, Quake etc), where monster infighting is a part of the game? Not necessarily an FPS.

>>1864429
>NIN on the chest

Nine Inch Nails?

>>1864432
NIN did do the music for Quake after all, didn't they

>>1864432
Yes, obviously. Reznor created the soundtrack for Quake. That's why there's nailguns too.

>>1864429

Most recent example I played is Undying. It's on Unreal engine.

So maybe some if not all Unreal engine games, perhaps some / all id tech engine games too?

>>1863976
>rotten female corpse
>HDoom
pick one.

>>1863463
>Get kills and upgrade yourself
>Splitting paths so you can decide to be either more like the cyberdemon or Mastermind

>>1864280
Dang.
I would have liked some power attacks.

>>1864460

The special moves and the hammer may be for you, then!
Or I can include different melee styles, each with their own focus. People have been constantly suggesting more DMC inspiration, so one thing I could do is borrow the four "styles" of play and do different melee modes around that.
Like one style is to tap repeatedly for really fast strikes (what's currently in).
Another style is retro SNES-style beat-'em-up combos where landed hits go into other hits.
Another style is single strikes, where holding down fire charges up a more powerful strike.
And the final style...ummm. Hm.

Does anyone have the image of a revenant fused with two kleers and two Dark Souls skeleton wheels?

I would request that from you, >>1864421, but I don't have the image to use as a reference.

>>1863458
Let's just say I'm planning on a mod where you play as a demon wrestler. Like an old fashioned beat em up with grappling moves.
You mostly fight marines who can't use guns for some reason. Later enemies will be oc donut steel lovecraft shit. Every enemy can be smashed into the ground or turned into a living projectile.
It's basically just an idea at this stage, and I can't guarantee anything, but I'll let this thread know if I ever reach something presentable.

>>1864462
I am sold on all those melee styles like crazy.

I have no idea what the last style could be like though.

>>1864453

Also it happens in Myth

>>1864462
>>1864469
Oh I think I found a bug in Demonsteele.

After using the hammer's charged attacks and the lightning field is in effect all melee hits will add special meter.

I am not sure if that's intentional but it doesn't feel like it.

>>1864426

sorry for delay, was away.

>>1864464
I cant recall that image, but, I might do it if anyone gives me references and stuff

>>1864502
ANON COMES TO SAVE THE DAY

>>1864502
RIPPED AND TEAR

>>1864502
That's really nice Caco-Bro.

12/10.
+1 point added for the strutting Archvile.

>>1864507
That's a Revenant you SCOOGE

>>1864507
Well shit I meant Revenant.

Great picture, sorry.

>>1864453
This game looks decent.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQKBS4XR8QE

>>1864502
J-Jeez, Doomguy has a pretty nice body~

>>1864492

At the moment, landing all powered hits with the hammer gives you special, but I've been meaning to change that.
Thanks for reminding me.

>beating 'Go 2 It' for the first time

>>1864552
>At the moment, landing all powered hits with the hammer gives you special, but I've been meaning to change that.

But all melee attacks are building meter.
Not just hammer hits.

When I first noticed it I tried swinging wildly while in the lightning field.
Got half of a full bar before the field went away.

Didn't even need an enemy.

>>1864234
>>1864502

I guess I'm not wanted or needed here anymore. G-g-bye anons ;_;

For serious though that is some nice art. I was going to say Doomguy in Space Station 13 but I decided I'd just doodle it myself, hah.

>>1864573
LYNCH THE JANITOR!

>>1864467

Yes.

Fucking yes please.

>>1864573

The clown cannot honk if his guts are ripped

>>1863928
2hu doom when?

>>1863245
No aoens of death?

>>1864573
It's ok bby.

People are just complaining that your sketches look like sketches. Ur still a beautiful soul.

>>1864618
is that like a lost soul with lipstick

>>1864618
>>1864623
Speaking of Souls...

>>1864432
Jesus Christ dude. Where you been in 1996?

>>1864627
stupid sexy krang

>>1864632
Not the guy you were referrring to, but I was busy being three years old playing the first SMB on the NES.

>>1864458
>cyberdemon focuses on burst damage and melee, includes immunity to rawkets
>mastermind focuses on stunlocks, chipping away at health, and gets the ability to spawn Arachnotrons
Want.

>join a random server through Doomseeker
>have to download 9001 wads
>loud obnoxious music
>chat is full of faggots
Why did I even bother?

>>1864637
>being born on or after 1990
absolutely disgusting

New rversion of Metroid Dreadnought when.
New rversion of HDoom when.

>>1864662
Join a different server, then.
If only there were a way to find non-faggoty servers.

>>1864662
Welcome to Zandronum.

>>1864642

>that spider mastermind idea.

That's good anon. I'm gonna be working on a mod in the future the focuses killing enemies and collecting their essence to radically change your weaponry, and while it's currently just an idea as I got another mod to finish. Focusing on stunlocks and summoning little mechanical spiderfucks sounds badass.

>>1864662
>no /vr/ servers to play with your /doom/ brethern

>>1864642
>includes immunity to rawkets

goodbye E2M8 on pistol start

>>1864725
Immunity to rawkets doesn't mean immunity to fists, you wuss.

>>1864725
But anon, in this mod you are the demons.

>>1864735

oops, my mistake

>>1864731

don't feel like playing along, sorry. maybe another day

>>1864642
>Kill monsters.
>Get perks.
>Get enough perks to qualify for a monster path.
>Imp path: melee + fire.
>More melee as an imp: Turn into a hell knight.
>More melee as a hell knight: Turn into a hell baron.
>More melee + rockets as a baron: Turn into a cyberdemon.
>More rockets as a hell knight: Lose gains, turn into a revenant.
>More magic as a revenant: Turn into an Arch-Vile.
>More bitches as an arch-vile: Turn into an Icon of Sin/monster spawner.
>etc, etc, etc.

>>1864502
Really nice.
I think the armor didn't expose DG abs by default though, it was ripped apart.

>>1864797
For HDoom, it could be part of the design.
Doomguy is ripped as fuck though.

>>1864821
True.
Whatcha playin'? AtM with...? I wanna say hellbound but I don't remember it for shit.

>>1864826
Plutonia 2, one of my absolute favorites.

>>1864559

Shit.
It took me a while, but I managed to replicate it.
You're right, that's definitely a glitch. Will fix, thank you.

Tonight, on "I can't believe this is DeHackEd"...

http://www.doomworld.com/vb/wads-mods/69734-mayan-maps-4-map-beta-mbf-compat/

I'm making a wad of my version if Doom 2 received an expansion (similar upgrade doom 2 to doom in most regards)

Obvious the attempt is done many times before since the 90s, but I wanted to add my spin of it. I'm adding new monsters, weapons, maps, items and traps. New textures and objects also included, but to a small scale.

Is it worth doing a megawad nowadays, is it even worth it?

Although one of the new monsters I've desigend I personally love, its never been done before (at least like this)

>>1864920
screw you anon i wanted to play something other than doom today
>>1864923
>Is it worth doing a megawad nowadays, is it even worth it?
depends on what you think is worth it

gimme a gameplay mod + a wad to play through
pls no nuts, chillax, sunder or whatever the fuck

>>1864927
>i wanted to play something other than doom today

LOOK AT THIS FUCKING GUY
NOT PLAYING DOOM 27/4

>>1864927

I mean, my wad is aimed as a regular co-op played one found on zandronum, than just single-player. yet all I see is the same shit all day, alien vendetta, chronos, invasion UAC (etc)

Is it worth making a megawad to played for maybe a few weeks then forgotten?

>>1864938

metrood + equinox on galactic savior

>>1864941

if your goal is to make something that'll become popular and played for a long time, then the doom modding scene probably isn't for you

>>1864941

be*

Not all the additions are complete originals, but I've been carefully thinking what new additions could be added with balanced without cluttering mess. Limited so far to 7 new monsters (with a bonus final boss if the wad testing goes well), 3 new power ups, 2 new weapons and 33 maps (3 secret). Minor gameplay changes included, but only tweaks to certain things that bug me (like beserker packs always switching to fists, when I should choose to switch to fists)

>>1864938
Demonsteele and Alien Vendetta.
That's what I'm doing.

>>1864946

I mean popular with the doom co-op community, not popular from outside non-doom sources. There was a project at one time that could've been that, but I couldn't make it playable map-wise.

I just want a new wad series to be played sometimes on zandronum, since i'm bored of the current map cycles included and like to try new megawads online

What's the name of the wad that had a lot of mean traps? Was it called help.wad?

>>1864963
>Mean traps

>>1864927
>"i wanted to play something other than doom today"
>skipping what could possibly be the next big thing in Boom mapping

gallery related, Tango posted it not too long ago in the doomworld picture thread.
http://imgur.com/a/WcMPY

>>1864963
halp.wad

>>1864938
Accessories To Murder + Back To Saturn X
Felt like a really good combo to me.

>>1864998
Already played through it with MSX (which also was pretty great). I don't remember liking AtM very much, but I might give it a try again.

>>1865008
My only problem with AtM is those missiles.

I really don't like that they spiral.

>>1865015
True. It's weird because I love UT2k4 ones.
My problem is that shotty reload takes too long and some of the enemy sprites suck dick.

>>1865017
I don't mind the pump action shotgun reload time considering it's firepower is pretty nice.

I think the sawed off is just wasting shells though.

I edited AtM to have regular enemies and then put 3D Quake enemies in their place
Much more fun that way.

>>1865027
I edited the assault rifle fire smoothly in full-auto, and then semi-auto when looking down the sight.
I also eventually gave it a 30 round magazine because I like laying down a swath of automatic fire into groups of enemies or particularly strong ones. It's not very tactical, but it's fucking Doom, shit flies. Also switched out the firing sound to something that sounds like the crack of an actual rifle. Graphics for it are great (though i guess the muzzleflash could be a little bit more dynamic)

I really like the shotgun though, realistic spread, so if you take aim at a guy across the yard, you can score the full pattern onto him 90% of the time, the reload is decent enough, I like that you pump the first shell into the chamber if the gun is empty, that's attention to detail. Also, my favorite bit is the sound of the shell bouncing on the floor and against walls, if you're wearing a good pair of headphones, it sounds so incredibly lifelike and good, it really feels like the brass and plastic is bouncing on the floor next to you.

Rifle and pump shotgun are my go-to guns most of the time.
Rocketlauncher is actually very unsatisfying and I dislike the spiral travel, makes it harder to aim, I just end up magdumping into crowds and windows, I never savor it.

>>1865058
I completely agree with your opinion on the shotgun.

I like the rifle a lot too but haven't tried editing it
The Revolver is also good times.

Minigun is also really nice.

I think it's hard to like the rocket launcher because it's design is pretty much just for magdumping.
I would probably prefer like a 4 rocket box with stronger straight rockets or a single shot powerhouse.

These minimissiles just aren't very fun AND they spiral about too.

>>1863245
Smooth Doom got updated with some stuff:
http://forum.zdoom.org/viewtopic.php?f=19&t=45550&sid=76ea25714000df1d3238ee538e03f5a5

3 updates in August.

Anyone know of a doomer on youtube that happens to be Japanese but speaks very loose English? His name was somethingEN I think.

>>1865073
AND HE STILL HASN'T ADDED MORE DOOM64 SPRITES
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

>>1865081
Tatsurd-cacocaco?

>>1865073
Smooth Doom a shit, crashes on map 6 if you use the crusher on the spider mastermind

>>1865090
On my way to check if this is true.

>>1865086

No the guy Im thinkin of has live commentary. I thought the idea of a Japanese guy speaking English like Iwata seemed pretty cool.

>>1865092
>>1865090
Didn't crash for me. Maybe you had the blood effects on and it was too much for your pc to handle or something?


On an unrelated note, god, the animation for zombiemen set on fire in Polished Skull is so bad.

It feels like Demonsteele's sword need a tiny bit more range.
Trying to hit Arachnotrons doesn't always work and it can't even touch a Mastermind(But that might be intentional)

Why hasn't anyone made an imp-tan skin yet

It'd be too lewd for pubic use

I meant public. PUBLIC. god damnit

r/ing that 3d demoness skin

Tried AtM again. Ya, I just don't like that mod. Oh well, back to other shit.
>>1863245
Hideous Destructor got updated a few days ago.

Is there anything like zdoom, gzdoom, or brutal doom for Duke Nukem?

>>1865178
It should be in the vrskins wad over on best-ever.

>>1865073

>Originally conceived as a graphic mod where vanilla monster animations were smoother + some alt deaths
>now it has extra gore (brutal-ish decals in ZDoom), randomized variants and decorations

is it too hard for gameplay mods to stick to how they were originally meant to be?

>>1865245
You don't have to play the newer versions you know. nothing is stopping you from not updating.

>>1865245
Blood and decorations can be disabled in the options, and if you ask he probably will add an option for randomized variants.

>>1864467
oh god yes

whatever you do, the mugshot in the HUD bar MUST wear a luchador's mask

>>1865248

>"if you don't like it, don't play it!"

oh come on not again

>>1865224
eDuke32.

>>1863782
Pretty disappointed how demolition weapons just use their vanilla counterpart's sprites. If they were cosmetically like the High Power guns that would have been fine.

>>1865267
Yeah, sure, because he totally should completely change the project's direction, just to satisfy one single whiner.

If you are not the public target, don't play it. It's simple.

>>1865294

let us not go there and end this discussion right now.

>captcha: statistics srabiod

>Not enough boobies in the thread

>>1865329
Which is better? YOU decide!

>>1865329
BFG girls are the best girls.

Granted there's only two that I'm aware of but they are by far my favorite Doom gun girls.

>>1865331
I would fuck that gun.

>>1865272
thanks

>>1865331
I bet she's a Big Fucking Girl

>>1865331
>>1865329
I would choose the Green Hair one.

I really like her outfit and hair.
Red eyes are a bonus.

The real best choice is dual wielding

>>1865342
>BFG tan having a dick

>>1865351
Greenhair looks more like a BFG, but Grayhair looks like she's more fun to hang out with

>>1865329
Demon boobs

>>1865368
Quit enforcing your toxic beauty standards! Here's what a REAL demon looks like!

>>1865373
Yeah no, fat girls a shit.

>>1865379
What about buff girls?

>>1865342
For you.

>>1865329
>>1865331
Green.

Also, instead of just being matching colors and such, BFG-tan should be, y'know, a big fucking girl. Like 6'6. Lel.

Can someone quickly screenshot those dark archviles from Complex Doom, I need it for a joke.

>>1863749

>>1865331
>Upotte with classic FPS weapons

>>1865379
UMMM WOW RUDE I CAN'T BELIEVE YOU'RE TRIGGERING ME LIKE THIS???

Okay guys I am not sure what WAD to play. I mean I have an idea but I was hoping to get an opinion. What WAD do you think most fans would agree is the one absolute must play WAD?

>>1865482
nuts

>>1865482
Wads as in maps?
Deus Vult 2 probably.

>>1865482

Scythe and Scythe 2.

>>1865459

Fuck you now I can't unsee it.

So, trying to get an Icon of Party server going, but I cannot find the wad in the Best Ever wad list, nor can I find it anywhere else. Shit, can anyone at least tell me the wad name? It'd greatly appreciate it.

>>1865609

http://www.best-ever.org/download?file=iop-beta7.2b.wad

Here is some delicious OC for you all

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ev3mJAERb0k

>>1865615
Found it right before you posted. Thanks a lot though!

New server, Icon of Party

Name: :: [BE] Montreal :: /vr/ Friday Night Icon of Party

Pass: vrtroopers

>>1865617
Get a better camera

>>1865617
>loud_nigra.wav in the background at the end

Does anyone else ever think about what it would be like to be burned alive by a Mancubus?

>>1865686
It would be extremely painful.

>>1865713
You're a big guy.

>>1865716
That means you have big guts!

>>1863782
>>1865273
I've replaced the Demolition Chaingun's cosmetics with that of the Bulletstorm Chaingun, so now you can ED-209 all up in their shit, since the Bulletstorm sorta kinda resembles that gun when you hold it. I also fucked with the bullet explosion sound and effects so they linger around a bit less.

http://www.mediafire.com/download/91lb4nbl82d8642/DRLA_Fancier_DemoChaingun.pk3

>>1865716
For you

>>1865067

Go into slade and go into the actors file then I believe the weapons folder

find the rocket launcher text file, the actor for both the weapon and the missile should be something called A_BishopMissileWeave (Or another one, but all of them have weave in the name) erase just that part and they will be entirely straight

>>1865737

*should be there, something called A_BishopMissileWeave will be in the spawn state I think

bleh

>>1865713
Maybe, but wouldn't it be worth it in the end?

So I just played through SiD, are there any other wads with a focus on just chill exploration and cool architecture?

>>1865748

Are you the same masochistic faggot who wanted to know if anyone else other than you wanted to get Berserk punched?

>>1865767

yeah, he's the same one that is trying to force that running gag in the threads

>>1865770
You can still say meme if it actually applies.

>>1865767
it probably dont feel so good. unless youre like a cyberdemon or something, then itd just be like a regular punch from a wimpy 290 lb baron or something.

>>1865778
Doomguy punches way harder than a Baron of Hell scratch with Berserk on.

Please don't hurt Doomgirls.

Here's my first attempt at making a level.
It's pretty bad, but I made it short and fairly easy, my fastest run was 2:07.
I'm looking on input for my second attempt.
http://www.mediafire.com/download/cnfm37bj46x3ov7/shoggscastle.wad

>no shotas in hdoom

>>1865783
Everyone in Doom has comprehensive death and dismemberment plans. It's something you gotta have for everyone in the business.

>>1865793

1:53

Good for a first level. But you should vary the type and placement of enemies instead of just spamming them. I liked the progression, keep it up and keep learning.

>>1865793
>Never hand someone a shotgun at the start of the level
>Too little monster variety and poor use of chaingunners and demons, chaingunners will murder each other and demons are left waddling at you while you shoot them apart
>Too much ammo
>Needs more visual variety
Okay for a first level, you can map and you'll get better and learn more.

>>1865793
>them ninety degree angles
I don't even know what I just played, it felt like a Wolfenstein level in Doom or something.

Were Imps supposed to be fuzzed? All of the enemies were messed up in some way.

I don't really know what to say here, i don't really know what you were going for.

>>1865762
no? o-okay

>>1865793

w-why is everything green-ish? Its ok for starters.
alsowhydidIpickuparedkey

>>1865793
Also what the fuck is up with the colors?

>>1865767
Are you saying you wouldn't want to receive a berserk punch or two?

It didn't anything hilariously wrong, like doors that didn't open or inappropriately textured lifts or hey cyberdemon in a tight hallway. But it's pretty basic, we're used to all these elaborate traps and godawful switch puzzles and everything. The chaingunner barricades is probably the neatest thing, but you'd have to use block monster linedefs to keep them from wandering away from their posts, and maybe space them out so they become more dangerous without murdering each other.

>>1865810
>>1865812
>>1865814
>>1865819
>>1865821
Thanks.
The fuzzed imps were meant to be holograms from the computer behind them, I should've given better visual cues.
The vomit green colour scheme was done out of curiosity, I stuck with it because it made it look unique compared to other levels.

Can anyone tell me a good place to find maps from different shooters (particularly MP maps) from Doom 1/2, Quake 1-3, Unreal Tournament, or any other classic shooters? I'm looking for overhead maps with good detail on item locations, spawn points, etc.

>>1865793
>3 shotgun blasts to kill former human.
either something's changed, or I got really bad at doom.

>>1865834
The whole map just felt really... odd and primitive. Like something you'd get on one of those huge Megawad discs with over fifteen thousand user made levels back in 1995.

>>1865839
Remake de_dust.

>>1865845
Nah its legit. I was also scared it might be a terry wad or contain malicious code, dont want to see my HDD getting erased.

>oh hey a new So You Wanna Play Some Doom list?
>Hellbound? Neato that looks pretty cool
>pop it in GZDoom, spoopy apartments with the lights off oh boy
>3 Barons of Hell and an Arachnotron on the first level at HMP

What the fuck is up with the architecture/high detail maps and having atrocious level balance? It got even worse in the second level, which is a shame because I fucking love the general aesthetic but having to either play on babby mode or quicksave every five minutes so a monster closet full of Revenants doesn't agitate me to death and set me back fifteen minutes of exploring is just obnoxious.

At least have the good grace of Doom 2 to give me a SSG on the second level or something, fuck. It wouldn't be so bad if these were just simple straightforward levels, it's losing a lot of exploration time and having my momentum come to a halt that ticks me off.

>>1865854
It gets a bit easier come the later levels, but yeah, Hellbound is ridiculous.

>>1865848
>>1865845
>>1865824
>>1865821
>>1865819
>>1865814
>>1865812
>>1865810
>>1865852
Guys, press use on the wall behind you when you spawn.

>>1865801

they would also spawn back in hell anyway :3

>>1865860
and the purpose of this is...?

>>1865858
It's not just Hellbound. SiD had the same thing, although generally more well balanced but yeah you'll be walking around and then BLAM Baron of Hell within a 16mu wide Corridor and you only have the Shotgun have fun! And it's even worse because SiD is super dense in its map design.

>>1865801

or they would spawn back in hell anyway :3

maybe you are killing the same like 200 demons again and again and again.

Is it me, or is Hellbound significantly disappointing by the final act?

Like, seriously. Why is map30 a fucking slaughtermap? Why couldn't it fit with the rest of the megawad and be atmospheric and moody?

>>1865854
>Hurt me Plenty on Hellbound
If you want a real fuckin' painful challenge, try going through the 200 minutes of /vr/ megawad with FKER on fast ultraviolent with pistol start on death. It's one of the most difficult things I've played in a while, but also one of the most fun.

>>1865860

>Blood filled room you can swim in

>>1865865
WHAT'S THA DEAL WITH CRUSHERS?
[Seinfeld theme intensifies]

>>1865868
Yeah but the speedmaps weren't designed to be consistently balanced in the first place.
Hellbound is a consistently, fully packaged megawad designed for level synergy and it just starts off fucking awful. It's not hard, it's just seriously tedious.

>>1865801
is that pic-related?

>>1865876
Yeah. I think that's also why the 200 minutes of /vr/ megawad is better suited for it because most of the maps assumed they would need to start off relatively easy and the maps are rather small, so there's not a whole lot of backtracking when you do die.

With Hellbound and wads similar to that, you would think that the abilities for level design aesthetically in the authors would carry over to the gameplay element. I guess it's kind of the difference between the architect and the engineer.

>>1865878
Nope, it's a skin ripped from a model based on a comic book series (Purgatori). I'm pretty sure there are a couple of skins that are closer to the Diablo demoness design, one on the zandronum forums and another from sirens.wad

>>1865801
is that pic-related?

>>1865872
I would ask for a Doom sitcom, but Tumblr has it covered already

>>1865865
nobody thinks about what happens after Doomguy exits a level. I mean, who cares, right?

Any HDoom news?

>>1865872
What's the deal with crushers? They're part of the ceiling, you know, that thing that protects your head, except now, they're supposed to crush you. Do any of you see any benefit to this? Really, I'm supposed to trust the roof above my head after seeing one of these? The UAC has put these deliberately to crush things, as you can imagine. And yet I'm supposed to be the bad guy.

>>1865903
You. I like you.

>>1865373

I like.

>>1865854
I don't remember Barons of Hell on level 1 on Hellbound. I remember the Arachnotrons, but you can just run past them.

>>1863782
if anything, what you are looking for is a High power Chaingun with 1 firestorm and 1 power for POPOPOPOPOPOP

>>1865895
Oh fuck this needs to exist right now

>wash everything in acid
>Mancubi's fire blaster for spot cleaning
>send buckets in a teleporter back to hell for disposal

>>1865868
haha, what the fuck.

>happy
>PTSD THERE IS NO PEACE ON EARTH
>don't shoot the puppy please!

>>1865854
Update:

So I played through some more and just said "fuck it" and turned on Godmode

Jesus fucking christ how does the map maker expect you to play through this shit. It's just monster closets: THE EXPERIENCE. The level with the hellgate was goddamn nonsense, literally three minutes of just dumping ammo into a doorway. I mean it makes sense given the point of the level, but... JESUS.

Also this game is the spiritual successor to Doom 3. It's dark. Carmack would be proud.

>>1865976
>Jesus fucking christ how does the map maker expect you to play through this shit.

It helps to git gud

>>1865854
Hellbound demands that you find secrets.

>>1865976
You should try some of the later levels of Sunder.

Also, legacy of suffering is widely agreed to be the real doom 3

>>1865994
>legacy of suffering is widely agreed to be the real doom 3
I'm pretty sure it's not.

I know Doom 64 gets those kinds of regards though.

>>1866000
well.. that settles that.

Im the cancer killing /doom/
Im so sorry

http://i.imgur.com/GlejlGd.jpg

>>1866009
Also to let you know Legacy of Suffering isn't bad.
But it feels more like Painkiller(Even without the Painkiller music) due to it always locking you into combat arenas and all weapons having two fire modes.

>>1866031
>Killing /doom/ because.. Drawing nice things?
I don't follow Caco-Bro.

Also you draw really nice and Imp girl is a cutie there.

I would not bone Revenant though.
Not once.

>>1866038
>I would not bone Revenant though.
>boning
>a Revenant
>boning a pile of demonic bones
Imagine the agitation and her screams... I'm hard now...

>>1865865
PLASMAED

>>1865854
>he didn't find the SSG on level 2

>>1866152
Which seems kinda improbable since like, the switch required to progress through the level has the SSG right there.

>>1865854
>>1865976
Artifical difficulty, heh?
C'mon son. Just git gud, you need way more experience.
If you cant get past a few fucking Barons, you should set the skill to ITYTD.

>tfw Hdoom team will ignore the Caco-Bro's art
>tfw Hdoom team will ignore the RobotJoe's art
>tfw Hdoom team will ignore the XoPachi's art
>tfw we'll only get same animu face demons with same animu hairdos

>>1866223
He probably hasn't even played it because he was saying the SSG wasn't on level 2 even though it's right next to a switch you need to hit to beat the level.

>>1866235
also the difficulty on Hellbound isn't really that bad (on UV even)

>>1866234
Maybe there might be another anon who may decide to make them look closer to the original thing

>>1865373
Yes, beautiful. °w°

>>1865976
>Carmack would be proud
Nope.
Carmack exactly said "Doom3 would be better if people would see anything" he is not happy with the result.

>>1866234

heh, but Hdoom stands for Hentai doom rite?

>>1866234
Were you here when the Hdoom team said it will be moddable?

>>1866418
No idea. Looks stupid as fuck though

Anyone noticed how Zandronum chicks are different from usual gurl gamers? Some are still attention whores, but majority of them are pretty damn skilled when it comes to particular mods.

>>1866431
no

>>1866431
girl gamers are always the same. Just like female "metal heads". Posers doing it for male attention. They should all be shot.

don't even think of responding

>>1866431
In my entire life I've only met one completely intelligible and non-attwhore girl on the entirety of Skulltag AND Zandronum.

>>1866452
>>1866452
Too bad it turned out to be "metal" that transvestite faggot crybaby.

>>1865245
pretty sure it's just visual randomization, nothing that has an affect on gameplay

faggot no life mods are at it again. NO OPINIONS. HIVEMIND OR GET OUT OF OUR SHITTY 4CHAN THReAD, STOP LIKING WHAT I DONT LIKE.

Never thought I'd see the day where reddit is more open to free speech .

>>1866423
>>1866423
>>1866423
crying to the mods already huh?

>>1865073
Never checked smooth doom.

Is it worth trying?

>>1866431
>>1866441
>>1866443
>>1866457
>>1866462

SHUT THE FUCK UP AND POST MIDIS/SOUNDTRACKS

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PH4CF8tbVBU
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qx0IeRGBwLw
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T_Q9PLBhMxQ
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xs8zxkEezZM

>>1866472
>responding at all

Dear God what is wrong with you

>>1866234
Man those simple anime heads look so out of place on those detailed monster bods.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ENtAsOUnHRk

>>1866478
>crying to mods
Dear God stop being so vaginal

>>1866464
No, I mean you'll be able to make mods for HDoom.

What led you to that conclusion?

>>1866485
DO NOT RESPOND TO HIM
HE IS A TROLL

>>1866485
Was replying to the wrong post, my apologies. It was meant for this nigger crybaby here:
>>1866487
Mods are on a post deletion spree as usual and delete shit before you can even respond to it.

>>1866484
Why is there no Johnny Rebel mod yet? I'm not even racist.

And the mods are now lagging behind.

God fucking dammit.

>>1866490
Ah, I see.