/vr/ - Retro Games

===NEWS===

Decide name for GMOTA's sword since GMOTA Guy is being a stupid butt! http://strawpoll.me/2330484

Doomhack! It's... well, it's something alright. It's also legal now! http://pastebin.com/X5dddz3F

Doom 4 reveal! Well, kinda. Only those actually at Quakecon got to see it firsthand, but here's a basic rundown of what happened there. http://pastebin.com/W8P7fdq3

The rumor mill/Tarnsman says Back to Saturn X's second episode will come out on August 31st (a day earlier!).

hobomaster22 is making a mod manager for Doom in the vein of Quake Injector, and has built-in /idgames support! http://www.doomworld.com/vb/doom-general/69346-doom-frontend-development-beta/

Here's a music stream that only plays Doom music, 24/7; feel free to listen if you're interested http://liquiddoom.net/ (direct link 403s)

===POPULAR MODS===

/vr/:
200 Minutes of /vr/: http://www.doomworld.com/idgames/?id=17781
GMOTA: http://forum.zdoom.org/viewtopic.php?p=742401
HDoom: http://www.best-ever.org/download?file=m12-hdoom-techdemo5.pk3
Metroid Dreadnought: http://zandronum.com/forum/showthread.php?tid=4561
The Space Pirate: https://drive.google.com/file/d/0BxbbtKR5bll_anFPaVhUQVZqcnM/edit?usp=sharing (tutorial: http://youtu.be/mrFF8LCZw5Y))

Other:
Doom RPG: http://forum.zdoom.org/viewtopic.php?f=19&t=33292
DoomRL Arsenal: http://forum.zdoom.org/viewtopic.php?t=37044
Hideous Destructor: http://forum.zdoom.org/viewtopic.php?t=12973
Pirate Doom: http://forum.zdoom.org/viewtopic.php?t=32674

Got something news-worthy? Reply to this post, or it'll likely be missed.

>>1858306
How does he use the phone

>Decide name for GMOTA's sword since GMOTA Guy is being a stupid butt!

>>1858317
fite me

>>1858306

GREETINGS MORTAL

ARE YOU READY TO SKYPE?

I might be doing something naughty

Thoughts?

>>1858296

Russian Overkill bound to have its final update.

Does anyone know if there are any sites that sell a physical copy of the doom bible?

What is the best Doom clone and why is it Chex Quest?

>>1858339
You would have to make a physical copy yourself or use one of those "Print your own Book" Sites.

>>1858321
No spiky bits = No sale.

>>1858345
It can't be a clone if it's literally just Doom

>>1858359
That is the exact definition of clone.

>>1858339
The "Doom bible" probably isn't what you think it is

A "bible" for any kind of end product (a game, a TV series, even a movie) is more like a design document. It details how things are supposed to be done. It's a guideline for the future of the project.

Being the (relatively) unprofessional chucklefucks they were, everyone else at id pretty much told Tom Hall to fuck off with his weird story shit, and then fired him, because their goals weren't meeting up

(Tom was also really annoying and used to piss off the super-serious Real Artist, Adrian Carmack. Their desks were next to each other and Tom wouldn't ever shut the fuck up and let Adrian do what he had to do.)

There would be no point in owning a physical copy of the "Doom bible" because it would just be 20-odd black and white pages of almost entirely text and filler bullshit. I dunno about you but I don't need the descriptions of the "Probjectile" and a full-page "press release" ad copy bullshit trying to sell me on how cool a game in 1993 is going to be

>>1858360
No, you misunderstand. For it to be a clone, it needs to be a ripoff. A Famiclone is a fake Famicom; however, a Twin Famicom manufactured by Sharp, which is an officially licensed Famicom with built-in Disk System, is not a Famiclone. It's just a Famicom variation.

Chex Quest literally runs on the Doom engine, therefore it cannot be a Doom clone. Douk is arguably a Doom clone (although I'd say it elevates itself above that). Star Wars: Dark Forces, maybe. A handful of other quickly-forgotten 1994/95 era sprite-based 2.5d shooters, sure. Chex Quest? No, Chex Quest is actually authentic Doom, the same way Heretic and Hexen are.

>>1858359
Is Ken literally just Ryu?

GMOTA Guy, how canon is term's story to GMOTA?

Will we be seeing any of Lucifeller, Lothar, or the Goddesses in the future?

>>1858378
Of course not. Their heads are different.

Now, those ninjas from Mortal Kombat, those niggers are literally just the same dude

>>1858398

I like the idea of Lucifeller. As for everything else? Maybe.

>>1858370
I couldn't call Duke a clone of Doom. They're more like brothers. Same parents, different results.

Are there any mods with enemies playing dead?

>>1858468
Hideous Destructor's spectres will fake their death and run away cloaked if you don't hit them hard enough. The RoTT TC has the usual Low Guards that lay on the floor, but they're not really any different functionally from ordinary enemies.

I like how Doom 3 predicted the rise of tablets. I always liked those chunky things back in 2005

So a couple guys on the SUPERNatural thread on ZDoom made comments about Slenderman, and Psychoscourge responded with this:

"No, that wasn't slenderman. Yes, it is an entity which unfortunately looks like slenderman. It's a double edged sword. The main problem was that it was hard to create a humanoid bipedal entity which had no face who was originally a well respected member of the community without it looking exactly like him. I didn't put him in just for the "oh look guys, it's a slenderman character", but rather, he turned into an integral part of the story. However, that obviously can't be seen from the demo, so the response that you and several others are having is understandable, especially if it's hard to view him as anything other than a cliché, at this point."

So it's somewhat understandable. Kinda hard to make a faceless man without associating it Slenderman, but... He still went ahead and did the Slenderman static stuff and everything, even using the very same sound effects from that Slender game. So I'm kinda skeptical.

>>1858630
Simple solution:

Hair
Different color suit
Different effects when he sees you.

>>1858630
>He still went ahead and did the Slenderman static stuff and everything, even using the very same sound effects from that Slender game.
If you have an account you should ask him, I'd love to see the answer to that one.

>>1858630

What a fuckin' loser. He's worse than Sgt. Mark IV.

early version of something new I'm working on.

>>1858741
I hope you make it a good one. Will you make custom maps too? For a more medieval/fantasy flair?

Okay one more, let's see how good this new trick is at big groups

yep, still fucks shit up.

>>1858748

Honestly maps won't be coming til I get the gameplay settled just right. Blaz is nearly finished but there's also a few other playable characters down the road.

>thingkin bout doom 3
>Remember the one 2spooky hallway.
>Walking down a long, dark hallway with skellingtons and blood all over the walls.
>Guy holding a chainsaw briefly appears and disappears.
>Get to the end of the hallway and go through the door.
>Actual guy with a chainsaw comes running around the corner.

The problem is, all the videos on youtube about Delta Labs 4 don't have this hallway. I'm not crazy, I know that shit was real. Someone validate my memories.

>>1858775
nvm fixed it.

That hallway only exists on the Xbox version. The PC version doesn't have it for some reason.

>>1858312
He's a fucking god of black magic or someshit, he does what he wants.

>>1858805
Tell me about the god, why does he use the phone?

HEY DOOMGEN
HERETIC 2 WAS BRETTY GOOD.
HEXEN 2 WAS GOOD TOO AND I'VE REPLAYED IT MULTIPLE TIMES.

>>1858835

Yes and ehh.

>>1858320
toppest of lels

Hey, it's that guy who got his first WAD reviewed yesterday and now he wants to tripfag!
Yes, I'm a faget.

On the topic of my WAD from yesterday, though. I still haven't got an IRC client downloaded, because I'm a faggot who ruins boot sectors, so question goes here instead.
In my map, I have an Arachnotron that opens a door/drops a plasma rifle on death.
The thing is, it only drops the plasma rifle if YOU kill it--if a Hellknight gets to it first, you don't get the plasma rifle and it's much harder to kill off the Cyberdemon later on.
Right now, I'm using ACS to make the Arachnotron drop the plasma rifle, along with open the door. If I use DECORATE to change the Arachnotron so that he drops plasma rifles, will that make him drop the plasma rifle even if a Hellknight is the one that kills him? What about Dehacked?

>>1858893
Is it so important that you get the one he drops? Can't you just make it so when you kill him, a wall opens up and reveals a plasma rifle?

>>1858896
That's true, but then you get less of a "miniboss" feel from the Arachnotron, and he already seems kind of wimpy in that area to me.
That was the overall idea I was going for--a series of arenas plus minibosses.
I also kind of wanna increase his health so he doesn't die as quickly, but that's kind of a dick move.

>>1858898
I don't know if I agree with you.
My suggestion still implies "hey you beat this monster, here's a weapon" it's just a little bit more reliable than him dropping it himself.

>>1858909
All right, then. Time to stick that on my notes.

So now that theres a reset soon will you re-roll your character?

>>1858741
>Crazy ass sword powerup mode with shitloads of sword waves
This anon approves so fucking much.

>>1858293
Hey is there any .wads inspired by SMT: Strange Journey?

>>1858321
Looks good to me!
( a shame there's no mod for body spikes yet

>>1858741
>>1858761
reminds me of Zero for some reason

i like it

>>1858893
>>1858898
>>1858919
Decorate item drops spawn no matter how the monster dies, as long as the state in which they spawn the item is reached. Only possible issue I can see is that it'll spawn where the 'tron died, so beware crushers in the area throwing things a curveball.

Thought you guys might get a kick out of this.

https://soundcloud.com/longwalkshortdock/degreelessness-mode

>>1859050
Thanks!
It's a good thing there aren't any crushers in this map.

Can someone post the doom comic my friend wants to read it.

>>1859072
http://www.doomworld.com/10years/doomcomic/comic.php

>>1858748
>>1858774
What about enemies? I want fight some pig men archers and dinosaur birds and shit. And fend off little midget thieves who try to take my shit.

>>1858630
>The main problem was that it was hard to create a humanoid bipedal entity which had no face who was originally a well respected member of the community without it looking exactly like him.

Yes, you can, you just have to use your imagination.
Pictured: Not Slenderman.

Bah. Here's my first map. Without any lighting adjustments. Because I sort got burnt out, having worked 3 weeks on it.

I guess it's a bit challenging? Didn't put much thought into medkit positioning. Still, for future stuff, I'd like some feedback.

Oh yeah, the Supershotgun you can only get as part of a secret. Same goes for the plasma gun. Some are obvious, some a bit obscure, but I think a Doom veteran (which I am not) won't have a lot of problems.

You will also need Zdoom I guess.

http://www21.zippyshare.com/v/23918514/file.html

New death I'm working on for Demonsteele's gun deaths.

>>1858741
>>1858761
>Doesn't look like anything, did he upgrade the axes or something.
>Wait what was tha-
>mfw

Looks amazing.

>>1859210
The way the zombie holds perfectly still until the head finishes popping looks rather awkward. Might I suggest having the headpop overlap with the falling backwards?

>>1859212
Take off your name if you're not posting videos

>>1859218
Good idea.

>>1859217
Maybe, but only if it can't be fixed by adjusting the ticrate of the falling down part.

>>1859230
That'd just hide it instead of fixing it.

Does anyone know what happened with the anon that had the TFIV soundfont?

I NEED that soundfont

>>1859234
Well, there's supposed to be a bit of delayed reaction anyways for the effect. I might adjust some leg and arm movement, but not sure yet if having it sync with the falling animation is really what i'm going for with this particular one.

>>1859218
Pardon my lack of knowledge (and this stupid question), but why is it bad if someone uses a name?

>>1859249

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YgHNtzxO0y8

>>1859249
m-muh anonymity

Truth is, nothing changes when someone puts on a name other than autists coming out of the woodwork to shitpost claiming they're bringing attention to themselves, while those autists themselves are usually the only ones actually giving them attention specifically for their name.

>>1859249
Because internet fame is an addictive drug with nasty side effects.
...Why is my trip on? Uh...

Hey /vr/, what are some good Doom 2 weapon mods?

>>1859294
Doom Roguelike Arsenal. Combine with Doom RPG for an incredible Doom experience.

Is this someone from /vr/?
http://the-goddamn-doomguy.tumblr.com

>>1859319
Doubt it. He got all butt-roasted over Sgt. MarkIV, so actually going to 4chan might give him a heart attack

YOU HAVE 10 minutes TO POST THE cutest THING ABOUT DOOM.

The tiny arms on pain elementals.

>>1859329

the way the imps moan~

>>1859329
Imp-tan

>>1859329
Cacodemons are kinds cute

Here's a picture.

>>1859319
Seems like an another millennium kiddie who discovered doom.

>>1859196
>My map is so shit that no one wants to play it.

O- okay.

>>1859319
>>1859328
>>1859358

Wow, you guys are such newfags.
No, he's not from /vr/, no, he's not a millennium kiddie, he's probably he biggest Doom fan-name on that site.

>>1859371
I played it.
It was pretty dang alright. The level design played well, it wasn't all that difficult though. I liked the openness of it and the variety of environments.

I suggest removing all the little crates from the floor of the crate room. Also, on the cavern area with the rock texture, one of the pinky demons is stuck in the wall and cannot move. Also, enable jumping and crouching.

>>1859358
Millennium kiddes are too busy making terry-wads.

>>1859238
seconded, i want this too.

>>1859386
That's good to hear. I think the problem was spreading myself too thin, to do something different with every room. I guess you could tell from the server room and the connected hallway that I went crazy there with detailing, and then lost the energy for the later rooms. I also made the mistake thinking of flow and enemy placement last.

Not having enough blood sugar also might have helped with my increased dissatisfaction.

I disabled jumping and crouching because it would have made reaching one of the secrets too easy. How many did you find, by the way? Or at least the super shotgun.

>>1859406
I think I only found one, but I wasn't really searching for them all too much.

>>1859406
I liked the pinup of Gumball's mom

My one complaint is that I was stuck at the beginning for like 10 minutes because I didnt know the computer was a switch, make it more obvious

>>1859329
The way doomguy looks from left to right like he knows there's going to be some wacky shenanigans today!

>>1858789
The Xbox version was modified slightly for Coop play and a few other reasons if I remember correctly.

>>1859416
wait what pin u--
>look at the graphics inside the wad in slade 3

>>1859438
Yeah when i was going through the bunks I was all "Oh he has Cartoon Network pinups. Too bad he picked shit shows"

Then I saw nicole~

>>1859438
Did you skip the entire barracks section? Hope you're not disgusted. I find those more interesting and colorful to look at. Probably also tells for which board I eventually wanted to make a map.

>>1859416
I thought a normal switch was too much of a telltale sign.

In case you wondered how to get the plasma gun: use one of the bookcase in the commander's bed room .

>>1859447
You should share some of your pinups anon
because my laptop cannae handle DooM, and i'm not firing up the PC

>>1859447
i was indeed disgusted but whatever, MGS5 GZ and phantom pain pc ports were confirmed today so nothing can really ruin this day for me

Here's an idea for a group of vids. I choose a rather difficult Wad (Not scythe since I'm already doing that for the current group of videos which I"ll next update whenever) and, instead of the normal Debauch Marine, have the commentary be that of a priest who's fed up with Hell's bullshit and is going to gun every one of the fuckers down with his divine lead.

>>1859457
Go for it.

>>1859449
The only good one is gumball's mom, the rest are all noodly-tumblr as shit

>>1859449
Just for you.

Thought that I should have at least one male pin up. And there's nothing better than this Dick's ass.

>>1859468
Turn off those filters

>>1859468
Not bad, i would've liked Gumball's mom, but i don't mind a bit of...DICK BUTT

>>1859475
DIRECTLY FROM SLADE
I liek the concept of the bunks having pinups but I wish they weren's so noodly

>>1859479
Dude, that's great, who's the artist? i can't deny that shit.

>>1859479
and weren't so hi-res... and if they actually looked like pinups, not just 2 random images plastered on the walls of every bunk.
Don't get me wrong, I like the idea of pinups too, but the fact that there was always 2 in majority of the rooms, as well as their non-papery (they are pinups after all...) unpixellated looks kinda put me off.

>>1859196
Maybe I missed too many secrets, but you're way too stingy on ammo.

>>1859480
The artist is called Mangento. Although i don't think he ever put it on his tumblr.

>>1859490
Well, it was more about learning how to scale HiRes textures. because I thought that, if you want to include pin ups, you might as well make them not pixel lated. I guess I could have thrown on some filters to give them a more paper like texture? But it being about trying myself out I wasn't quite aiming for perfection.

>>1859496
You're a rad guy

>>1859496
Mangneto, I believe you'll find.
>>1859502
For you.

>>1859505
The raddest of guys

>>1859496
Ah, I see. I apologize if I came off like a harsh asshole.
I kinda agree with >>1859492 about the ammunition, but to me it was more like a love-hate relationship. Sometimes I REALLY enjoyed having to perform multikills and fistfights to conserve ammo, but towards the end it kinda became a pain.

Also I noticed a minor HOM in the chaingunner elevator room with the 3 health packs. If you go inside the medkit room and turn right, you can see that the door-end of the table has an untextured line.

For a first level, I think it's really good, and although the difficulty seemed easy at a first glance, the lack of ammo had me fisting lost souls with 1HP and 0 bullets by the end of the map. Keep up the good work!

>>1859514
Yeah.

If I'd have worked out the plasma gun secret, I would have been ok, but I noped out of fighting 2 pain elementals with 20 bullets and 7 shells and just ran past.

>>1859357
That's a nice picture.

Exactly what am I looking at?

>>1859518
Yeah, a liiiiitle more health/ammo here and there would be nice, even if it's just a row of 3 health bonuses

>>1858993

As it should. I used first person Z saber sprites from a Megaman 8 bit death match mutator. A Megaman X single player mod

>>1859526
>A Megaman X single player mod
sounds interesting, link?

>>1859514
Ah, that HOM must be from when I enlarged the table.

Thanks for the encouragement! For the next map, i want to work with a 1024 unit constraint, but, starting with UDMF, I wanted to try out some room over room. And no, you didn't come off like an asshole, so no worries!


>>1859521
I guess I could add some stuff eventually and try to actually light the map. But I think I will do that tomorrow.

>>1859518
The map really becomes easy with secrets. Here's a list:

1: Main Room: Use the pipes at the back of the pillar.
2: Storage Hall: Use the computer pillar facing the door to the main hall. This will lower a crate in the lower left part of the room.
3: Computer Room: Lowering the servers for the yellow card will also lower the gray wall in the hole in the the cave leading to the outside. You have to use the "switchbox" in that hole to get the soulsphere.
4: Barracks: In the first room on the left, use the left poster with Eileen.
5: Armory: Use the bookshelf in the commander's bedroom and hit the switch in his secret room.
6: Helipad: You need to get on the crate with the medkit to the left when you enter, which will lower the crates with cell charges on top.

For 3, I wanted it to be shootable to activate, but vanilla doom 2 didn't have anything that would have been suitable.

>>1859520
I think he's asking "which bg looks best"

I'd say top right

Best way to play Doom on Linux?

>>1859532

Depends. Do you want mods, multiplayer, vanilla, or...?

>>1859536
I want gzdoom without having to use wine

>>1859527

I can't even recall where I found it. I THINK it was on BE and I'm now at work. If it ain't on BE I'll upload it elsewhere when I get home.

Judging from the reaction from you guys I take it you like this powered up form, and that I should carry on with it?

>>1859518
Same anon here.
That doesn't really sound as bad as my case. In the outside area, I decided to make a run for it straight ahead and get to the elevator, because I was already very low on ammo. I went up and wasted all of my rockets on the Barons, except one, which I've fired down into the elevator shaft back at the demons that I've lured inside. I kept luring them to the elevator until I've completely ran out of shells. I decided finish them off, so I jumped down without knowing I had a couple of Cacos and Elementals waiting for me, besides the few Imps. I've emptied my chaingun into them, and after that, I've wasted 3 entire minutes getting the Lost Souls to infight. Once all of them was dead, I went towards the elevator again with about 30HP, ready to exit.... except I had no idea that one of the pain elementals actually escaped, and was waiting for me up there. A lost soul hit me and I had only 1 HP left....I've never hauled ass to the exit so quickly before, haha.

>>1859538
Not the anon that answered you, but as far as I know the only way to do that is compiling it from the source code. Maybe you can do a search for an already compiled version, but compiling it from the souce code it's the best way to get the latest version

>>1859196

Don't take any of this personal, ran through it real fast and I'm going entirely off of memory and in no particular order. Ran it totally vanilla in gzDoom.

>No music, was that intentional?
>Barrack posters. I guess if it's meant for some people, sure.
>Back of entry door isn't aligned proper.
>Not vomit-wreching, but a few issues of color clash.
>Outdoors were good, a bit shallow.
>Cave also had color clash. Nothing major really.
>No Jumping/Crouch when I didn't see anywhere it would break the level.
>Barracks section was kind of big for a dead end side-track. You got me with the Caco though, last door I opened.
>The crates in the hallways were obnoxious. The first enemy behind one got me, but I didn't fall for it after that again.
>The mini-crates were also obnoxious and a bit silly. They would've been a cute addition near the edges, but not all over the entire floor.
>The Helicopter Pad side-track was a nice little fight.
>Super shotgun secret felt rewarding, but I really didn't want to have to touch that poster.
>You obsessed about little details (ie puddles) in a few sections that weren't themselves detailed. It creates an amateur look. Far better than over-detailing though.
>Important switches on non-switch textures are usually a no-no, but I obsess over the use key so it was alright.
>Ammo was kind of tight for me. Maybe I was being lazy, or maybe I overused the SS, but I just started skipping fights at the end. Not finding the plasma secret (I wasn't looking) probably didn't help.
>Probably more stuff I can't remember.
>Ending scenes l like that are always adorable and I like them. +1 to cute boat.

All in all, bretty ok. You didn't do anything offensive and I had a little fun. Most of those tips are for the future, as I'm sure you're not going to prop up this level on pedestal.

I've been trying to run DoomRPG, and I've gotten everything to run smoothly, except for one problem.
I can never get the DoomRL Monster Pack to work with it. Any help?

>>1859538
Arch Linux has GZDoom in it's user repo.
Otherwise, you're a pleb.

>>1859554
Thanks for the feedback!

>no music

No, it was supposed to play the default music for Entryway. Well, now I know that not specifying music in MAPINFO doesn't mean it will just play the track for the map the custom map is occupying.

>entry door
The entry door seems fine to me. Could you elaborate if possible? Maybe we are not thinking of the same door?

>color clash
I was worried about that to be honest. Which ares would that apply to?

>puddles
They were areas with a lot of water, so I thought there would be some puddles, while the areas themself probably would be too simple to deserve to be detailed.

>>1859586

>Entry Door
It's the back of it. I'll get a picture.

>Color Clash
It's sort of.. everywhere? Maybe it's just me. It's not extremely bad, but I'll take some pictures.

>Puddles
The ones in the shower were nice, even if a 3 x 3 water spout is weird. The ones near the sewer and above it felt a bit excessive.

One sec, let me whip up some pictures. Mind you, I have babby-tier map making skills myself, but I play new maps pretty much religiously because I'm in it for the architecture. Shame I don't have the patience to play through slaughter maps, because some are just fucking gorgeous.

not sure if this belongs here but does anyone know what track corresponds to what level in the quake 2 music system? i know it goes off a CD

Also, I'm surprised that, apparently, no one was surprised by the revenant on the toilet.

>>1859601
Finally we discover why he's so agitated.

>>1859538
http://zdoom.org/wiki/Compile_GZDoom_on_Linux

>>1859605
Nah, it's becauseDoomguy stole his guts

>>1859240
You generally don't want isolated movement in An animation. I'd move his body just a bit, some sort of jerking animation, even of its just a few pixels.

>>1859629
Yeah. I'm planning on something like that to make it flow better

>>1859319
>>1859328
>>1859381

it has been proven he's -at least- a lurker. not actually the kind of guy that does mods

>>1859618
>>1859584
Why are you using a tripcode?
Are you currently making a mod / sharing your progress with /vr/? If not, watch this and fuck off:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YgHNtzxO0y8

>>1859664
I was talking about a "my first WAD" I posted earlier.
And, because I can't into tripfaggotry, I forgot to take it off prior to posting.

Myst pls come back

>>1859593

Remember, these are only the negatives.

Color clash in the tiny cave wasn't as bad as I thought. I really didn't like the brown steps in the first room tho. Door height at the end of the barracks also felt funky, but maybe it's just that door tex.

>>1859679
Ijon must hate dicks or something

>>1859692
>>1859679
>>1859673
>IRC drama
>tripfags

Please, dont mix up your autism and non-/vr/-related drama with /doom/.

polite sage for offtopic

Did I overdo it? Im still not finished, its my first map.

>>1859703

Numbers don't really say anything, anon.
Map layout is more important.

So I was looking through the Doom command line parameters and saw this:

-left
(output)
doom -net 3 -left
Under Doom version 1.0 or 1.1, the -left parameter will cause a networked computer to display the area to the left of the player's normal view.

-right
(output)
doom -net 3 -right
Under Doom version 1.0 or 1.1, the -right parameter will cause a networked computer to display the area to the right of the player's normal view.

Sounds pretty badass, anyone ever try that?

>>1859697
>labeling anything as autism
hi /v/

I've started playing TNT Evilution for the first time. After Doom 2 was ok on Ultra Violence I chose the same Difficulty ... HOLY NUTS! Its so hard. Do you long time Doom-ers have any advice for particulary hard levels? (Btw: I'm currently on Map 19)

>>1859703

Make it look more like this.

>>1859719
Here's some advice: Son't play TNT

>>1859719
>Do you long time Doom-ers have any advice for particulary hard levels?

Be patient.
Take everything one at a time.
Handle things in small packets, don't try and rush into rooms--even if it looks safe.

>>1859683
Ah, now I understand the door issue. It only happens after the door has been opened once, because it was stuck in the floor for some units.

The lights are there because, had I given a toss about lighting the map, they would have been the light source, and the lighting would have reflected that.

You are not supposed to get into that dead end passage. It's just there to show you that the sewage comes through another underground flow.

I don't think the textures in the computer room look offputting due to cutting off. But that depends on the eye of the beholder I guess.

I'll give you the part with the puddles.

>>1859719

if you keep getting stuck, here

>>1859196
Another anon here, I'll gladly give you a list of a few simple critiques I have

>using the exit door texture for openable doors, not a big deal but throws the player off and may cause them to miss things
>switch activations on a non-switch texture. the architecture of the room tells you what to do, so it isn't a big deal, but for ease of play this could be an issue, especially on larger/labyrinthine maps
>general over-detailing, and not properly spread out. Again, this is more of an issue when designing larger maps. The cavern area and the hallways to the blue room stood out as overdone
>The barracks area in general. The posters aren't my style, but their high resolution clashes with doom's graphics too much anyways. Also, more challenging monsters like more Cacos in this area would be good
>The agitated skeleton fight was perfectly pulled off, although in such close conditions making sure the player has an SSG might be more balanced
>The plasma gun secret is set up really well and teases the player perfectly
>the scattered supply rooms was a decent idea but they're too easy to get into and needed more ammo than health
>the puddles effect didn't work at all, and wasn't really necessary to establish that you were in the showers
>the boxes area, the sewers area with the chainguns, and the blue keycard area all had terrible cover issues. The box traps didn't work because nothing could hit you, you had no cover from the chaingunners, and you didn't have room to maneouvre around projectiles, respectively
>the Cacodemons in the sewer chaingunner took too long to rise up to attack the player, so they were almost pointless
>the blue keycard area locks you in with very little ammo and health and forces you to kill several enemies. This can cause a death spiral where the player has to restart the level because they effectively can't advance. Needs more ammo and health, if only just to keep the player going

>>1859740

As I meant to say, it's all objective really. I don't understand why your sewage tunnel has to be so gigantic as to fit in at least 7 angry cakkers though.

As per textures, I play a lot of maps, so I see it all. I'm use to people usually bordering textures or at least using them properly. Very rarely can you cut textures or position them in improper heights without it looking silly. I usually only see people getting away with it if it's organic textures (rock, grass, dirt) or something with extremely odd edges (marble tall brick.)

>>1859719
I dont know how long you've been playing Doom so far, but I've been playing for 15 years now and 99% of the maps I play are way too easy on UV, its mainly because the most maps I played are very similiar.

>medium sized room
>either Revenants or Hell Knights attack you
>SSG ready, at least 50 ammo

Sometimes, there are also really difficult maps. They are a real challenge.
>Archvile + Baron attack
>Fatsos / Arachnotron are far away, annoying as fuck
>Chaingunners behind invisible walls start shooting
>Cyberdemon in a room with many many pillars
>Spidermastermind in a large ass room with many decorate obstacles (can shoot through, but not walk through)
>Surrounded and clawed by Imps

For each situation, you need some sort of plan, else you are already dead, it also depends on the weapons you have equipped.

Yes, Doom is quite hard, you need a lot of experience.
Just keep playing, before you enter a room, look for hidden passages or look at the automap and look if the wall lines are a bit different from the others, that means its most likely a door or a lift that will lower and monsters will attack you (its a trap).
Thats all I can tell you.

Protip: If Doom is still way too easy for a pro like you, turn sv_fastmonsters on, it gets really difficult, especially if there are zombies, they shoot immediately, Demons will rape your arse because they are twice as fast etc.

>>1859757
Alright, thanks! I guess I will be removing the puddles.

And perhaps, change the pin ups to low res.

>>1859531
Nope, it's just a picture. Here's another.

It's firefly.wad if you want to know.

>>1859757
cont':
>in the same area, the watery path to the keycard seems like it should do damage but doesn't. this may have been intentional, and if so it worked because I ran headlong into a Cacodemon
>the switch to activate the elevator down to the keycard is off the elevator's sector by a bit so the player can get caught on it and miss the elevator. not a big deal, just a small detail
>the boxes room didn't serve much of a purpose, it didn't reward the player for exploring or give them much to fight. Check out Doom 2 Reloaded for maps that use boxmazes really well.
>the heliport fight is a decent idea, but a tad bit too cramped. making the player walk straight into enemies for the rocket launcher is a poor idea, as is giving them energy ammo they can't really use
Really all in all it was a pretty cool first map and had a nice theme, and I loved exploring around and finding the different sections, it was just poorly threaded together because the gameplay was really unbalanced. No power weapons for the whole map aside from secrets isn't a good idea, and it felt like I needed a BFG more than a Plasma rifle. Your ideas and map making skills are fine, just undeveloped, but you really need to work on the balancing and elements of gameplay.

>>1859761
>Cyberdemon in a room with many many pillars
Cyberdemons never bother me unless it's really compact or they're up on a ledge raining fire down. (Alien Vendetta, Sunder, etc.)

>Spidermastermind in a large ass room with many decorate obstacles (can shoot through, but not walk through)
This. Fuck this though. God damn.

>>1859761
>>1859751
>>1859734
Thanks, it worked

>>1859789
For the next map I will put more thoughts into gameplay and flow first while sketching out the layout. but thank you for your encouraging words!

>>1859797
A good idea is to play through your own maps multiple times with different playstyles - all secrets, no secrets, speedrun, etc. and get a feeling for things yourself.

>>1859810

Not author, but isn't the general rule of thumb that any (good) map should be able to be completed with a pistol start and zero secrets?

>>1859217

I dunno, it works with the theme. reminds me of Hokuto No Ken, where bad guys would stand perfectly still while their bodies exploded.

this is kinda out of nowhere but does anybody know if there has been a serious attempt at speedrunning DTWID/D2TWID? i'm bored and plotting out a few routes, if there really hasn't been anything on this then i might put the time in to actually running them

>>1859864
i think dime tried dtwid

>>1858662
no he's not, Pyroscourge is pretty humble judging by his responses in the zdoom forums.

>>1858658
>no one can be inspired by anything

judging by all the logs and stuff he was heavily inspired by SCP as well, there's no problem with taking all of that stuff and putting your own spin on it.

>>1859869
you're correct, apparently i cannot use google.

all i can find is a full episode speedrun, though. any clue if there are ones for individual maps? i know for a fact i can beat some of those times

>>1859885
http://doomedsda.us/wad1814.html

>>1859896
>http://doomedsda.us/wad1814.html
that's exactly what i wanted. thanks

>>1858296
>http://pastebin.com/X5dddz3F
Okay sorry for being a newfag, but what is Doomhack and why should I care?

So seeing as I've got a new powered sword utility covered. I need to think of something to replace the retardedly overpowered caltrops.

I was thinking something like a turret missile: it sticks to surfaces and then takes potshots with metal darts at monsters for awhile.

Also I'm mulling over on power ups too, has anyone ever made a floating option that tags along with the player and shoots when the player's sprite goes to the attack frames? That'd be a power up that should work for all characters

>>1859913

It's like the first ever Doom mod who had tons of random shit from many games mashed into a wad. As if it was Grezzo without the edgy shit. It had/has its fair share of popularity

the reason why some people got to hear about it until now is that the mod itself was an edited IWAD, people KNEW about the mod but, yeah, you might get the idea why nobody discussed it on the main Doom forums until now.

>>1858658
I'm one of the guys who brought up Slenderman. I kinda wanna bring it up again, because no matter how he spins it, it's pretty obviously supposed to be Slenderman.

But I don't really wanna be a dick either.

>>1858378
i know you were just exaggerating for effect but oh boy did you flare up my autism

>>1859913
its essentially the first mod ever made for doom. but it was illegal so no one ever talked about it until now because this guy got in contact with the creator and made it into a .wad file so everyone can use it now

It's so hot lately.

>>1859954
simple solution: take off all clothes.

grab a soda cuz it's so-damn hot, haha get it!

>>1859954
I'm going to marry Imp-tan!

>>1859916
MM8BDM. Beat Support. It uses GetPlayerInput in an ACS script to detect when the player is firing and then gives the player an inventory item that triggers Beat.

>>1859959
Yeah, good call. Nice thing about Hell is nobody really cares if you run around naked...

Well, except for FCC-Man, but he's just kind of a stick in the mud.

>>1859975
>>1859975
TAKE OFF THE SHORTS GOD DAMN

>>1858835
That's the funniest fucking webm in the world and I don't know why.

>>1859961
Good old pixel art porn
http://rule34.paheal.net/post/view/1385954#search=DOOM

>>1860005
Someone should add doomgrin to the other guys on the hill.

>>1860008
That's not Imp-Tan!

>>1860016
Because Pinkie Godess is best

>>1859975
Kill FCC-Man.

His black bars will last no longer.

>>1859975
For a while I thought that was Doomgirl and the shirt was her helmet.

>>1859961
Let's not forget the "dirty thoughts" version

>>1858321
Needs spikes and messier hair, but you're already tickling my boner.

N-not in a gay way though!

>>1859904
There is a good set of IL's for DTWID, definitely a bunch that are beatable but im pretty sure speed and max are filled. the episodes still need work. Hell, ep 3 has no demos.

>>1858367
>Tom was also really annoying
Probably yeah.

>and used to piss off the super-serious Real Artist, Adrian Carmack.
I love Adrians work, but the guy was an edgelord, it's more the case of the two of them being incompatible with each other as persons. Tom got along great with Romero.

>Their desks were next to each other and Tom wouldn't ever shut the fuck up and let Adrian do what he had to do
I'm almost sure some of that has to be exaggerated.

>>1860008
>his pants are up

Speaking of id stories

reposting because of feels

http://vocaroo.com/i/s0heDupS2DT1

>>1859961
>>1860059
i-is there unchristian board'd versions?
I never would have thought lewd of this magnitude would come from doom

>>1860106
>What is a fly

>>1860126
Download hDoom from the op.

>>1860008
>>1860016
>>1860059
>>1860150
>no lolis or pregnancy fetishes involved
Oh c'mon, its mandatory

>>1860163
>pregnancy fetish

>>1860163
The best you can do is add it yourself.

>>1860163
>pregnancy fetishes

>>1860163
>>1860165
>>1860170

i sense a pattern

>>1860163
I can't imagine how a pregnancy fetish would be able to work in a fast-paced 'shooter' like HDoom

>>1860170
>>1860165
>>1860163

I want to impregnate mai waifu after a long romantic relationship and eventual marriage because of loving each other so much ;_;

>>1860150
Are the pictures in the mod or is the mod just full of demon qt 3.14's? I was asking for the pics specifically.

Great mod tho. I guess I came back to these threads at a good time.

>>1860141
>thinking this is jeapordy

>>1860179
Pain elementals.

>>1860174
>>1860180

Is this /ksg/?

>>1860182
Yes, there's a special level where you can talk to Imp, HellKnight and Super Shotkun

>>1860182
That facial expression might be missing (only because we haven't implemented it yet) - the other variants of the picture are in it, though.

>>1860163
What else do we need? Armpits? Feets? Guro? Fart, burping and vomiting? Probably Cacodemon vore?

>>1860180
get the fuck out you sick pervert

>>1860189
Feet wouldn't be so bad, I like Imp-Tan's feet

>>1860180
Oh, you mean like that, I thought you meant fetishizing the actual pregnancy itself, because that'd be pretty messed up.

Wanting to give you're waifu a Vitamin D injection isn't anything bad.

>>1860179
yeah, we got rootpain for that

>>1860179
Doomguy's semen clearly wallruns.

>>1860210

While i'm at it, here's another CG we haven't used just yet.

>>1860224
Imp girl is really cute.

>>1860224

>>1860224

>>1860163
>wanting lolis
fag

>>1860235

Absurdly cute.

>>1859971

>ACS

Welp I think it's finally time to learn ACS. It's kinda lame that it's been done before in some ways. I thought I was really clever with that. But at least I know it's possible

>Unsupported OpenGL version.
>At least GL 2.0 is required to run GZDoom.

So it begins, huh?

>>1860265
Though in the upcoming versions of GZDoom, you might be forced to have a GL 4.0 card..

>>1860286

call me when G/ZDoom doesn't choke trying to load Sunder

>>1860265
>>1860286

Worry.png

>>1860295
>>1860286
>>1860265
Oh god oh man

>>1860286
Your PC can run Crysis on maximum settings, but can it handle...GZDoom?

>>1860289

>>1860265
>>1860286

Is it even necessary to have requirements like this for GZDoom?

>>1860295
I don't like it either, but Graf sees it as far less of a headache as far as 'optimization' goes or something than trying to stick with older versions. :(

>>1860224
Mike needs to use this in hdoom pronto!

>>1860296
Mike needs to use this in hdoom pronto!

>>1859538
I use Zdoom and GZdoom on Linux Mint 17 (found some .deb packages on some place I can't remember). The only problem that I've found is that I can't drag and drop more than one .wad into the executable file (If I drag and drop 2 .wad files on the executable, two iwad selection prompts will appear, one for each wad) Can someone help me on this? I've heard about ZDL 4.0 working on linux, but I tried to compile it with no success. Does someone here have a .deb package I could use? That would be great.

>>1858741
That looks awesome. I love GMOTA, but I couldn't use the sword as much as I wanted to. Hopefully more powerups like this will make it more usable. Keep up the good work, man!!

>>1860248
>vaginas
>gay

>>1860402
I bet you kiss girls faggot

>>1859371
I'll play it later.

>>1859406
Never disable jumping and crouching. Design your level so that it can be played with them without breaking the map. It's 2014, fag, man up.

>>1860453
This may be hard to believe, anon, but some people still enjoy a good vanilla map.

>>1859371
Booted it up, played until the barracks, dropped because of your shite taste in cartoons/porn
>>1860453
>>1860464
The map ca't be broken by either, so disabling them is pointless
>not setting jump and crouch to always be on regardless of default

>>1860163
>pregnancy fetish

so, fractal h-doom?

>>1860470
Jumping and crouching gives you a ridiculous more amount of room to deal with any projectiles though

Example:
A billion fireballs from Hellknights coming in at you at Doomguy's height level.
Crouching lets you avoid all of them with no effort, don't even have to move. It will go over his head.

Another example
Revenant rockets are homing in on you.
You can jump and crouch and it will make the rockets steer into the floor

Third example
Projectiles are coming at you.
You can jump and strafe and they will aim high, letting you stand underneath the projectiles as a safespot

Another thing is that jumping gives you a speed boost.
You could also hide behind very low cover to avoid Archviles and you can hide behind very low decorations to have projectiles hit that instead.

>>1860104
Probably. I'm not directly siding with either party; IMO I think Tom could've still been an asset to the team through Doom and even Quake, if they had just explained they were having problems.

>>1860497
>Fractal H-DOOM
Go sit in the corner and think about why this is bad.

>>1860126
Imp-tan says hi.

>>1860532
Your punch needs more spike.

>>1860464
I'm aware. I make vanilla maps. I just build them in a way that they can be beaten without jumping breaking things.

Regardless, his map has high-res textures, and thus requires ZDoom anyway.

>>1860532
Her skin is lacking that reddish hue, up the tan slider a bit

>>1860539
I'm pretty sure PrBoom can do hi-res .png textures, as well.

>>1860545
>>1860532
Also, narrow her eyes a bit. Are you using the limitless editor? Punch in a value of around 170 for eye width and lower eye height to around 40-60

>>1860532
it's black yukari

>>1860532
She needs to look... meaner. And a bit more muscular. She has the body of an anime schoolgirl, as opposed to a demon from hell. Though given the source that's understandable.

:: [BE] Montreal :: Presidential Conflict /// Samsara Tourney Practice! - Team Last Man Standing on UDMX, Sabbat Martyr, and Aerowalk

git in here

>>1860464
This may be even harder to believe, but you can make a vanilla map that isn't broken by jumping.

>>1860532
Mine is way better

>>1860453
>Never disable jumping and crouching.
What kind of stupid rule is this to dictate to other people? You must REALLY like jumping and crouching to say that.

>>1860564
You can, but why should you have to limit yourself in that way?

>>1860614
The rule of Doom modding is NEVER stop a player from playing the way they want to play. If I want to play your map with Brutal Doom and jump all over the place, I fucking will.

>>1860617
There's not that much "limiting" you. Most situations can be fixed with a simple Impassible line.

>>1860617
>>1860614

Because some people want everything accommodated for their tastes and their tastes specifically, and throw a shitfit if it isn't.
You may recognize this kind of person as a "faggot".

what if hdoom + nuts.wad

>>1860638
just wait until they implement monster infucking

>>1860638
An orgy that will go down in the history books.

>>1860638
>hdoom + nuts.wad
>grenouille arrives to paris.wad

>>1860625
>The rule of Doom modding is NEVER stop a player from playing the way they want to play.

Sounds like purely a personal "rule" on your part. IMO the mod maker is God. They create according to their own whims. As a player, you can love it or hate it, take it or leave it, but it's not your right to dictate their design.

>>1860625
>The rule of Doom modding is NEVER stop a player from playing the way they want to play.

True. Carmack wanted new things to happen to Doom as he said when he released the source code in 1997.

I wonder if he knows about recent developments in Doom, like GZDoom, Risen3D/Doomsday, etc.
Or Quake for that matter, like with Darkplaces.

>>1860638

>>1859196
If there is anything I hate the most, its hallways of door textures that dont open and have nothing behind them. It happens in too many levels nowadays. Cold as Hell for example, so many unopenable doors, such a waste of imagination and creativity in regards of what interesting things you can put in a room that size to make players want to explore.

Thankfully there was nothing like that in this wad.
Are you sure you weren't hiding in the bushes nearby, taking notes when I was discussing this dire problem with a friend of mine?

I am truly impressed.

>>1860656

I think it's important for a mod maker to at least take feedback into consideration and work on improving your craft

>>1859329
Cacos.

>>1860707

>>1859329

Vanilla doom? Cacos

Doom mods? Rocket ranchero revenants

>>1860656
Nope. In fact, G/ZDoom are specifically made in a way that doesn't allow PWADs to actively fuck with things like settings.

In fact, I'm fairly sure the option to disable crouching and jumping is removed from G/ZDoom's newer versions.

>>1860614
Because everyone at this day and age knows that jumping and crouching is around, you can either make a monster/map that uses these sort of things in your mod to make the player jump or crouch, but guess what's never done in the first place? Just that.
Years now and there are STILL more maps being made for vanilla play, yet how many projects even have 3d floors that aren't some hack job that requires single player only in order for it not to be ass broken if the other happens to cross under them?
>what kind of stupid rule is this to dictate to other people?
the same sort of thinking that disallows jumping and crouching in the first place

>>1860724
Cant be.
The Pinkerton station posted above stopped me from jumping while I was playing it on GZDoom.

That or my version isnt new enough.

>>1860724
Well, jump if you like, but if the map is targeted for vanilla play, you shouldn't bitch if jumping breaks it. If someone's designing a vanilla map, they shouldn't have to take the features of advanced source ports into account. Nor should it be considered bad design if they don't.

I want to be excited for hdoom, but is there even going to be a slim chance of gay sex?

>>1860730
Here's the thing, it's not that hard to plan around jumping, especially in a vanilla-target mapset. Very few "natural" Doom-like level configurations will be able to be exploited with jumping; the biggest problem is usually windows, and that's solved with some simple Impassible lines.

>>1860730

nobody has to cater to your tastes, nigger
this is the most pointless thing to get assburned about

>>1860746
>Here's the thing, it's not that hard to plan around jumping, especially in a vanilla-target mapset
>it's not that hard to plan around something that will never happen in a vanilla target environment

>>1860742
Here's my thing: A mapmaker should be aware that a common feature of most modern sourceports could maybe break their map, and it doesn't take very long to accommodate for that.

Like I said, I do it all the time, it's not like it's very hard to just make sure that jumping can't utterly destroy a map. Make windows impassible. Maybe do the same for some ledges that a player could conceivably jump over. It's not hard.

>>1860757
>it's not hard for me, ergo it is never hard ever

This is the worst mentality to have.

>>1860754
Doom's jumps aren't exactly a huge problem to plan around. Like I said, windows and some ledges are the biggest problem you'll have. Just mark them as impassible and it'll fix most problems.

>>1860764

Which end up being a gigantic buzzkill for those that want to jump around on things willy-nilly.
You need to stop trying to dictate the way how other people should plaOH WAIT

>>1860770
I'm a player who jumps. I can also understand that most "windows" will probably have glass in them, that the player cannot see (because there are no glass textures), and that some ledges I might try to jump over could be blocked off to prevent sequence breaking. It makes sense.

"Hey guys, guess what!"
what
"Jumping!"
*shitstorm begins*

You retards will fall for anything

>>1860779

I am a player who jumps. I can also understand that if I give my body vertical velocity in order to move up to a higher ledge, I should not thud into an invisible wall out of nowhere just because the mapper feels I am playing things wrong. It makes sense.

What also makes sense is not expecting a mapper to accommodate for anything he damn well doesn't care for.

>>1860784
A discussion where people don't agree isn't automatically a shitstorm, anon. When did 4chan become so sensitive?

>>1860747
>being this assmad
Yes, I know that jumping and crouching is one of your triggers but if you can't even hold up a decent reason for it not to be in, compensate for it's existence in a map pack, other than "lelhejohnmadden" then don't even bother in the first place

>>1860795

your argument is literally "jumping and crouching exist in a few source ports, ergo everyone who mods for any port should cater to it"
no
people who mod for vanilla play are not going to care how their mod works in zdoom
people who mod for odamex are not going to care how their mod works in zandronum

just because something exists doesn't mean you have to accommodate it
because that's the tip of a very slippery slope and the bottom is not a pretty place

>>1860784

>fall for anything

Only when there's jumping involved

>>1860795
>triggers

YOU WERE DOING SO WELL

BUT NO YOU HAD TO DROP IT

AH DAMMIT

Is anyone else turned on by Imp-Tan's two toed feet?

>>1860803
I'm not saying they have to cater to it. I'm saying they should plan for it.

If I'm testing a map, and jumping can screw stuff up, I'm going to mention it. And any sane map maker is going to go, "Oh, okay, I'll prevent that, then."

There are plenty of places in the original maps where jumping is stopped by good use of impassible lines; there are equally places where you can completely skip over parts of levels. (There are at least two ways to break E1M4.)

>>1860816

how is that supposed to be an example
jumping was not even a hint of a consideration back then
i'm pretty sure if you bring those up to the original mappers they are going to either not care or say "well then don't fucking jump"

>>1860804
Dude, that was such a stretch for that joke, I might as well call it a leap.

>>1860828
CARLOS YOU FUCKING SPIC THAT WASN'T EVEN GOOD

>>1860812
Not right now, we're creating drama.

>>1860803
Odd because it seems as if plenty of people here are quite aggressive once someone mentions that they want jumping to be a regular thing
>just because something exists doesn't mean you have to accommodate it
>because that's the tip of a very slippery slope and the bottom is not a pretty place
So somehow you making a map or monster that works around jumping/crouching is bad, or a map that makes the player unable to break the map through jumping/crouching will lead to a bad place because someone just so happened to recognize that their map is being broken in all the ways possible?

>>1860836
They'd be perfect for footjobs though

>>1860816
>There are plenty of places in the original maps where jumping is stopped by good use of impassible lines

But none of those impassable lines were meant to stop jumping. That's just purely incidental. Jumping was not anticipated at all when the IWAD levels were designed, because the vanilla engine didn't support jumping. As you say yourself, it is equally possible to break the original maps by jumping. It's just not something that was taken into account or should be taken into account when designing vanilla compatible maps.

>>1860834
>mfw

>>1860840

are you intentionally trying to miss the point
no, making a map that works around jumping/crouching is not bad, feel free to do it in your jump/crouch source port of choice
trying to tell mappers to accommodate for features for a source port that they are not designing for and do not care for is the height of shitfaggotry

Hi /vr/oom, I made this about a month ago but then I forgot I had it lying around. Feel free to grab it if you need a MIDI for a level.

https://www.sendspace.com/file/r84kyd

>>1860532
>>1860575

Beautiful, someone needs to make a horn addon

>>1860860

This is beautiful and I really want to use it.
Do you have a username I can credit you by?

>design a map that can be completed Vanilla
>include a shortcut to skip a large or difficult of the section by jumping/crouching
>design said shortcut in such a way that the skill required to pull off the sequence breaking is greater than or equal to the skill required to complete the level "properly"

>>1860860
There are horns, just not for the body

>>1860854
>are you intentionally trying to miss the point
or maybe you should have specified more clearly so the couldn't be taken in the wrong way
and also don't complain when someone breaks something in the first place, unless you're going to condemn speedruns as well considering all of them break the game with sequence breaking as well, it may not be speed running that people are doing but this comes in line with the same stupidity of people condemning alternate playstyles outside of "PROMLG META GAME ONLY"

>>1860867

crediting me as FMS is ok.

Now if only I could get ahold of that TFIV soundfont some anon showed off in the last thread.

>>1860878
Absolutely no one is complaining about source port features. They're just saying that vanilla maps shouldn't have to take them into account.

Begone strawman.

>>1860873

Awesome, thanks very much. I'm building up a music pack for a metal-inspired mod, do you have any other songs like this?

lets see whats going on in /doom/ today, any new wa-
>/v/ level shitflinging
come on guys, we are supposed to be adults here

what if modders added a line in the txt that said "this map was/wasn't made with jumping in mind"

wouldn't everything be fine then?

>>1860898
>>1860901

you're right, sorry
i've been falling for this shit a lot more often recently
i shouldn't be dragging down the general with this kind of assfuckery

new subject:
the last non-FPS game you played now has a doom wad about it
is it good, and how does it play

>>1860906
>Kirby and the Amazing Mirror
>Confusing as fuck maze world
>in first person
plz no

>>1860906
>ultra street fighter 4
i don't even know. lots of shoto characters for sure.

>>1860906
Does it have to be vanilla, or can it use ZDoom features?

>>1860920

sure, zdoom features are fine

>>1860898
The heck are we supposed to talk about? How grateful we are for GMOTA guy? Let people talk about what they want.

>Ctrl + F "Deleted"
>No results

Dear Mods/Janitors

When you sign up for the job, and then you get the job, YOU'RE SUPPOSED TO DO THE JOB.

>>1860906
DOOM AND XCOM
SHIT YEAH ITS GOOD
FUCK YEAH ITS GOOD
ITS THE BEST DAMN THING SINCE SLICED MOTHERFUCKING BREAD

YOU GET A GROUP OF PEOPLE TOGETHER AT A HOME BASE
HAVE THEM RESEARCH SHIT LIKE AUTOPSIES, NEW WEAPONS, ETC.
BE ABLE TO TRAIN SOLDERS TO BRING INTO TOUGH LEVELS
SEND OUT SCOUTS TO FIND MORE PEOPLE FOR BASE AND GET COMPUTER MAPS OF LEVELS BEFORE YOU ENTER THEM
MANUFACTURE THINGS LIKE AMMO AND WEAPONS AND ARMOR TO FEND OFF AGITATION
SOMETIMES THERE WILL BE ATTACKS ON BASE
YOU GOTTA GO BACK TO BASE TO SAVE SHIT
NEW MONSTERS
NEW ITEMS

FUCK YEAH ITS GOOD

Germany, please leave

>>1860906
>Hotline Miami

>>1860937
Oh god it'd be worth it for the soundtrack alone

>>1860923
Cool.
It was Shadow President.

You play as the President of the US and you have your seven advisor doomguys following you, but their MBF-helper-dog-style AI isn't very good. You fight demons across 32 maps (megawad) of major US cities to try to keep your approval rating up. Advisors resign if you kill civilians. Ends with a nuke to kill all the demons. Russia gets pissed. The EU cut offs trade to the US. Sequel.

>>1860937
Hotline Miami's music already fits in perfectly with combat in Doom.

>>1860906
>EDF2025
It is fucking good and you get multiple classes to choose from with shitloads of weapon selection.

Chex guy is made of chex, I don't care what any of you say. Milk kills him.

>>1860952

>>1860894

I could make a few more. Will post if something comes up.

>>1860958
NO MY HEADCANON IS REAL A TRUEEEE

>>1860906
>Wonder Boy in Monsterland
>paying for armor, better weapons, and boots to make you able to run
>taking too much time to find secrets takes a chunk of your health
>you need to take your time to get those secrets so that the final boss doesn't wreck your shit
>if you die, you start from the beginning of the game

platforming like that in doom might be cool though

>>1860973
Fuck you carlos your tricks don't work anymore

>>1860928
I think IMX was the/one of the janitors for /vr/, and since he's gone /vr/ (or maybe just the doom threads) are without a dedicated janitor/mod and that's why shit has gotten so bad lately.

I'm basing this on just the fact that him leaving seems to have coincided with the threads getting shittier though so I'm not certain I'm right.

>>1860989
Nah, if anything they were shittier while he was here. there's no correlation between him leaving and any difference in shitposts.

>>1860906
F-Zerox.wad
This sound like one of the greatest things. Running down corridors at 700km/h punching and kicking enemies to death as captain falcon.

>>1860995

the one day he left was actually during the day/night doom 4 was revealed, ergo the one day we had a shitfest of a thread who got like +200 posts deleted

that's some messed up shit

>>1860906
Fuck, I played Angband.
>randomly-generated cave each time you go to a new level
>zombiemen are even more deadly than before, especially since their pet cats can wreck your shit
>powerups do random things, ranging from heal to sending you seven levels ahead to poisoning you to turning you into a newt
>random weapons a la DoomRL Arsenal, plus cursed items and special bonuses
>you can go backwards to earlier levels
>level 1 is a town where you can't sell shit, instead you get to give that shit away in exchange for having it identified

>>1861003
The only reason that thread was so shitty was Mark trying to say id stole from him

>>1860937
>>1860941
>>1860948
>pulsing neon lights everywhere
>that music
It would be pretty cool, aesthetically.
The gameplay would need to have a lot of work put into it if you wanted to replicate the fast paced weapon switching and respawns after death.
Maybe getting damaged would just teleport you to the start of the level?

>>1860906
>Fallout 2.wad
Who would win in a fight, Frank Horrigan or Doomguy?
Franks a 12 foot tall Enclave soldier affected by a horrific strain of the FEV virus, while the Doomguy is a (roughly) 6ft tall UAC marine with Combat Armor and the BFG.

>>1861017
>Who would win in a fight, Frank Horrigan or Doomguy?

The answer is always Doomguy, unless the character is Samus Aran or Superman.

>>1861017
Doomguy kills things way tougher than FRANK HORRIGAN on a daily basis

>>1861021
or master chief apparently

>>1861007
>The only reason

fucking nah, we had like 3 different shitposters at the time, one of them being our resident shit-stirrer who went ahead and posted gore pics, and the usual couple of brutalkiddies who come outside from their rocks every time he posts

>>1861017
>Who would win in a fight, Frank Horrigan or Doomguy?

probably doomguy

>>1861025

We don't talk about that shitheap of half-research here.
"Unmaker feeds on human souls", what a laughable crock.

>>1861021
And most other characters who are immune to/faster than bullets.

Pinkterton Bluff author here. Again, I turned jumping and crouching off simply because it would have made a secret too easy. I didn't expect it to be such an issue because I assumed most people wouldn't care if a mostly vanilla map would not let you use that.

>>1861025

We don't talk about that shitheap of half-research here.
The amount they got wrong/made up on the spot about Doomguy was hilarious.

>>1861031
That's what the BFG9000 is for.

>>1861053
Or the plasma rifle, or the rocker launcher, or the berserk fist, or telefragging, or a crusher, or infighting.

I'm hopping into the Whodunnit server.

/vr/ Whodunnit (without Castaway)

pass: vrtroopers

Is there a list of possible assemblies for DoomRL Arsenal anywhere?

>>1861092
http://www.mediafire.com/view/jx21z8ztj76xgxk/DRLA.xls

>>1861059
Be there in a bit, wadseeker's taking a while

>>1861095
Thanks.

Need more people to fill up the WDI server.

>>1861108
Its kinda old though.
There may have been changes since then.

>>1860968

>wonder boy games

SUPERIOR TASTES FRIEND.

>>1861128
>playing wonder boy, not adventure island
bad news friend ...

>>1861135

Both games split off and became their own thing.

and then for some reason we had an adventure island game that played like a wonder boy game and another wonder boy game that played like adventure island. Never has a franchise had such a strange history.

>>1860842
Normally not my thing, but I totally agree with you.

>>1861006
Actually, DoomRL Arsenal has at least one "cursed" item already, so it's closer than you may think.

>>1861178
Oh dear.

>>1860906
>Um Jammer Lammy
I know, the shotgun is in my mind!
LEAVE IT TO FLYNN!

>>1859883
>no one can be inspired by anything
Anon, I wasn't say that at all.
Inspiration is one thing, but that other Anon said he literally took the same sounds from the Slenderman game and used it for his not-Slenderman. Inspiration is one thing, but directly taking from the source material is another.

>>1861213
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=72GUlqsNJ9k

Are there any good Doom 3 themed maps? there was a pretty godlike one in the WDI server

>>1861236
Legacy of Suffering.

anyone going to join WDI? Nig bick and I are waiting.

>>1861238
Looks neat! Doom 3 has a pretty sweet aesthetic and I wish more mods used it.

>>1860224
damnit, this gonna need the uncensored version hard, how long before V6 ?
the wait is killing

>>1861236
>there was a pretty godlike one in the WDI server

I remember when /vr/ was still young and we got to that map while playing WDI. So many people were saying they wished there was a map pack made entirely in that style of hyper detail.

>>1861165
Exotic feet is my fetish

>>1861340

>rule 63 Firebrand
>she's hot

RIGHT FUCK EVERYTHING. I'M DONE.

>>1861345
What's wrong? Can't stand the sight of a strong Demon woman?

>>1861337
>So many people were saying they wished there was a map pack made entirely in that style of hyper detail.

I dunno about other people but I have been saying from day one that basically fuck the entire set of WDI maps.

So I think we can all agree that Knee Deep in the Dead is objectively better than any of the other episodes or anything in Doom 2. However I don't think this is just because of level design, I think it's because of the less enemies. I mean who actually enjoys fighting revenants or lost souls?

>>1861416
Nah. I think it's very impressive that Episode 1 manages to be as god-tier as it is with such a limited bestiary, but E1 with all Doom 1 and 2 monsters used just as well would basically be the best thing ever made.

>>1861416
>I mean who actually enjoys fighting revenants or lost souls?

I do because Revenants are awesome.

>>1861416
>assuming I am not a skeleton and have a fetish for fire, rockets, and agitation

>>1861416
>I mean who actually enjoys fighting revenants?

What are your least favorite IWADs /vr/? Mine is either Doom 2 or TNT. I especially hate TNT because of that one shitty map with the wide open area with hitscan enemies...OH WAIT THAT'S EVERY FUCKING LEVEL

>>1861416
>I mean who actually enjoys fighting revenants or lost souls?

I don't think you're aware of /vr/'s boner for boners.

>>1861445
I never really got myself into Harmony

>>1861449
How do you know he's Death and not just a skeleton in a cloak