/vr/ - Retro Games

Everdrive is not an emulator. In most cases it's functionally identical. Some games had extra chips in the cartridge which might cause incompatibility with EverDrive. You can google to find the list.

If I recall there are a few games that aren't compatible with the everdrive. Not many though

>>1844838
sorry im not sure what word to use to describe what it is that the everdrive does.

>>1844838
>>1844840
so I guess I could just get the everdrive and only buy the actual cartidges of certain games...the damn things aren't cheap though...

>>1844856
You will save money in the long run though, because you won't be dealing with the fluctuating internet market for SNES games, or wasting money on overpriced "rare" games like The Ninja Warriors Again.

>>1844801
not emulation. loads rom to flash memory and plays as if it was on the actual cart

>>1844940
Or be like me, and stop PLAYING games almost entirely after getting three Everdrives.

It's not emulation, it's a flashcart like the ones everyone has for DS.

I can see the appeal but it's not for me. They're just too expensive to warrant, and you might as well just emulate.

Is there a DIY guide to making your own though?

>>1845339
>They're just too expensive to warrant
Pfft. Please. Compare the cost of an Everdrive for any system against some of the highest-rated games for those systems.

>>1845374
And compare that to the cost of emulation, which is free.

>>1845382
Truth be told, you don't have to pay for anything, if you don't feel like it.

The point is, using a flash cart allows one to experience the act of playing a game on the actual console, with the actual controllers, with no added input lag, on a proper television, without having to buy a shitty AGP video card with s-video out.

There are two flashcarts for the SNES that I'm aware of. The Everdrive, and the SD2SNES. The Everdrive recreates your average cart pretty good, but the only enhancement chip it supports right now is the DSP-1, and you need to get your own DSP-1 chip and install it yourself. The SD2SNES is twice as expensive, but it supports most of the enhancement chips with the Super FX chips being the main exception. With the hardware on the SD2SNES, enhancement chip support is added through firmware, you don't need to install more chips. It can also support new enhancement chips in the future(they are working on getting the SuperFX chips functional right now).

If you don't care too much about SNES games with enhancement chips, or plan on buying them separately, Everdrive is the way to go. If you don't want to buy another SNES cart again, go with the SD2SNES.

Should I buy an everdrive or nah?
Plan on getting almost all of them if they work well.

>>1845423
Specifically for the NES, Turbografx, Gameboy, Genesis.

>>1845423
Definitely. I have one for TG16, NES, and Genesis. The Mega Everdrive hurt my wallet a little, but eh. Being able to play Master System, Genesis, and 32X games, AND have the cart function as a save cart for Sega CD is WELL worth it.

Fuck collecting for the Turbo GrafX 16, unless you hate the idea of having money. The best thing to do is get a PC Engine Duo R and an Everdrive, if you care about playing every game ever made for it, and also want to play CD games without spending an arm, a leg, an eye, and a buttock on a Turbo CD and all the crap to frankenstein it onto the TG16.

>>1845437
Turbografx and Genesis should be good to go with 99% compatibility (only game that doesn't work on Genesis that I know of is Virtua Racing). Dunno about NES/gameboy cause some games had custom chips installed.

>>1844801
For just playing games? For most, I really think so. So far only a few special chip games aren't implemented (I'm not sure about SA-1 or Cx4, but I know SuperFX isnt). However, many people buy the games because they enjoy owning the games themselves. People like collecting them, that's why the prices are so out of whack.

>>1845447
Can anyone point me to a list of games that wouldn't work on the NES/Gameboy?

>>1845421
>(they are working on getting the SuperFX chips functional right now).

Nigga that was last year, so far nothing has come out, in fact i think the one Kirzz should have been working out is SA-1

>>1845460
Some of the weirder pirate carts that use wacky mappers don't work with the Everdrive (yet), but Krikzz has slowly been working on adding mapper support in recent updates to the OS. Works fine with most ROM hacks I've tried out, including the latest version of Metroid Plus (with SAVING OH MY GOD, AND A MINIMAP, AND ITEM PICKUP STATUS ON THE LOAD FILE SCREEN). Hell, I should make a WebM of that.

>>1845490
I plan on playing just most popular NES games and a few hidden gems, will it work out for me?
and probably the NES version of Earthbound

>>1845497
Honestly, more than likely. You'll be able to play pretty much anything you'd want, and if you get some game recommendations, you can just download a ROM, toss it on your flashcart, and go play. People complain about the prices, which I will never understand as there's easily some very fun games (Especially on the NES) that are close to the price of the Everdrive, or more.

>>1845497
Yeah, you'll be able to play the translated ROM of Mother, which is a bonus. Plus all of the homebrew stuff.

>>1845335
you are such a faggot it's unbelievable

>>1845673
Must you be such a fucking dickhead? Go take some Mydol and have a bowl of ice cream. I was insinuating that having EVERY GAME EVER, INCLUDING EVERY GAME NEVER would result in being crippled by choice, which becomes disinterest.

>>1845730
>Implying I'm the one bleeding from my vag

good one. But seriously, your indecisiveness is a direct result of your absolute faggotry and plebian-mindset. You clearly didn't think through buying an everdrive. Maybe try a new hobby

>>1845736
Ah, I see what the problem is now. The forum you want is two doors to the left.

>>1845742
>YOU ARE IN A COLD AND DARK 4CHAN
>THERE IS AN UNLIT CANDLE ON THE WALL
>OBVIOUS EXITS ARE NORTH AND EAST.

>>1845742
>how can I argue with that...?
>go to /v/

professional

>>1845736
You're the one being an ass.

Whenever someone says to me they liked a game, and they didn't use the original cartridge and console, do you know what I say to them?

I say "how do you know you like it? You haven't played it."

And they haven't. They've played a piece of programming attempting to replicate what the game is.

>>1845756
alright let me rephrase my original comment a bit less brutishly

Why would you waste so much money on everdrives to not even use them? If you can't enjoy your vidya past time then there has to be some other department of your life that's lacking - you should address that. Also donate me your unused everdrives.

Still a bit ass-ish, but I can't stand that wasteful plebian behaivour

>>1845490
>Hell, I should make a WebM of that.

And so I did. Not an in-depth demonstration or anything, but it does show the map, the save screen, and the load screen.

>>1845783
OH GOD I DIDN'T KNOW THIS EXISTED

>>1845783
>using turbo
>not even tough enemies

Really though?

>>1845787
This is the version that works on flash carts. The previous one booted to a black screen.

http://www.romhacking.net/hacks/1186/

>>1845790
I don't feel like dancing with enemies that take more than two shots to kill for a demonstration of additions to the game. Deal with it.

>>1844940
I bought ninja warriors for 30 dollars. a good old game should be roughly half the price of a new game imo.

>>1845808
>Deal with it.
Not really the right response to someone calling you out on being shit.

>>1845812
...does it really matter though? Why are you so booty blasted?

>>1845815
I'm not the same person.
You care entirely too much about what someone you'll never meet thinks.

>>1845815 is me, this is not >>1845808.
>>1845816
I was just wondering why he was taking it so personally when he's not the one playing the game.

>>1845818
>taking it so personally
What are you talking about?

>>1845819
Too many people didn't take their afternoon nap, I guess?

The Zelda Automap hack (by the same fellow responsible for the Metroid Plus hack) doesn't save, which is a damn shame, considering how nice it is. As soon as you reset or power off, your saves are gone.

>>1845843
I'm still not quite sure what you're implying.
I'm not so sure you are either.

>>1845762
Please tell me you don't actually say that.

>>1845762
the hero of /vr/

>>1845762
retro elitism at its finest

>>1845762
Right on! I say the same thing to people who say they watched a movie after it's out of the theater.

>>1845335
Despite all the shit this caused I totally agree. I love video games, I grew up with them like we all did here. Once I got my everdrives I ended up looking through the games for something to play instead of playing. It was horrible. I had every game ever...

With me, I have hardly any time to play, with work, the wife and my eleven month old I maybe get a hour a week free to play and I spent it looking through a catalog...

It got so bad that I made a folder called "JUST PLAY SOMETHING" with 5-10 ROMs in it. It helped.

I recommend, for the first time everdrive user, DON'T load up the entire catalog of games, just those you're REALLY interested in.

>>1845843
If you're playing on the everdrive n8 you can use save states instead on built in saving.

>>1845762

You're a fucking retard. ROMs are 1:1 copies of what was on the carts. The carts themselves are just pieces of plastic and PCB that hold that data, nothing really special.

If you're playing a clean, good ROM dump of the game, you are, in fact, literally playing the same game on the cartridge.

>>1846319
Correct, the ROM data is identical...

Emulation, however, is not an exact representation of the original hardware... It's emulated....

>>1846324

Who said anything about emulation when this thread is about flash carts?

In any case, with the cycle accurate emulators these days, you might as well say emulation is pretty much the same as real hardware now and that only the truly autistic could point out any real differences.

>>1846329
Oh snap, I thought >>1845762 was referencing emulation. Then I agree with your "fucking retard" statement.

>>1846319
This is like saying a CD is a 1:1 copy of a live performance. Yes it's all the same notes, but the experience is completely different.

>>1846337
That was probably the worst "analogy" I've ever heard in my entire life.

>>1846337

Fucking stupid analogy. When you play a ROM on a flash cart, it is EXACTLY the same as using the actual cart.

Just kill yourself, you dumb sack of shit.

>>1846337

>putting in a flash cart is a completely different experience than putting in a real cart

If you want the authentic feel of playing SNES games on the console itself, then sure I guess it's worth it. Building a SNES library can be brutal if you're on a tight budget so this is a pretty good alternative if you just want to play the games.

I still prefer using flashcarts on my 3DS for maximum comfy, but whatever floats your boat.

>>1846364
does 3ds have any emulators or are you just talking about using a DS flashcart?

Personally I'd love to see SNES on 3DS. Don't have a PSP for portable emulation, so yeah.

>>1846364

How are 3DS flashcarts at this point? I'm still scared that if I buy one, some system update will come out that'll brick my shit

>>1846371
only work on 4.x and below. some guy is currently working on some new hack that won't require a cart though and it should release in a week or two

>>1846373

alright at the risk of derailing the thread - if you refuse to update the firmware, can you still play new 3DS games?

>>1846383
yes and no. the flashcarts have this feature called emuNAND that, well, emulates the NAND. And you're using that to run whatever the current firmware version is even if your actual 3DS is still on 4.x.

But hopefully that will all be irrelevant soon.

>>1845339
>They're just too expensive to warrant,
Yeah. Collect the actual carts, it's way cheaper!

>>1846417

Thank you!

>>1846345
>choosing a game from a menu list of hundreds in your weird flash cart that You loaded onto it from your computer via USB is the exact same experience as picking up a cartridge from your small collection of games and putting it into the console

>>1846728
So what precisely are you attempting to justify here? The ownership of flashcarts does not prevent the purchase of legitimate games. I still roam around the state checking thrift stores, game shops, rummage sales, yard sales, and flea markets, but my area has been DRY AS HELL for years.

Unless you like goddamn Fairly Odd Parents GBA games and Hanna Montana bullshit for PS2.

>>1845762
10/10
Good to see someone on /vr/ with standards.

>>1846337
Beautifully put. Emulatorfags will never understand this fact.

>>1845762
This is so fucking stupid it hurts.

An Everdrive isn't an "attempt to replicate". It's the exact same thing as a real game cart but with a different label. Don't you realize that all game cartridges are just a small piece of memory holding a ROM file?

Blows my mind that there's so many people on /vr/ that actually think flash carts are emulation. It doesn't even make fucking sense to think that. How the hell are you gonna emulate a Super Nintendo game ON a Super Nintendo? How is a Super Nintendo gonna emulate any kind of other hardware at all?

>>1846337
>>1845762
>I like you two

Personally I prefer owning all the individual games in a collection as to me it doesn't feel the same playing them on a flash cart or an emulator. I also really love have the booklets and extra crap you got with the original games

Not so say I look down on folks who would rather use roms and the everdrive. I know a friend uses a flash cart while he tracks down the originals

>>1847003
That's a bullshit analogy that has no basis in fact, though.

>>1847015
There's a Chip8 emulator for Game Gear. But yeah, people don't want to know. They're PROUD of not knowing. To change their mind would mean admitting fault.

>>1846319
You're so ignorant in so many ways that it goes beyond being funny. Most carts are more than just a "ROM" Most emulators are no where close to accurate. You're a poorfag that's butthurt that you can't have nice things.

>>1847320
Haha youre full of shit. Trying to justify your stupid collection.

>>1845762
Holy shit! The word "faggot" does not even begin to describe you.

>>1844801
I have SD2SNES, N8 Everdrive and Everdrive 64 for a while now.

Not sure how someone can say it's emulated since it's the rom that plays through a board which connected to the original system.

Every game I've played looks fine (using CRT as well). I've even done a few comparisons with the few original games I do have, no difference from what I can see.

The advantages are just too much to not own one. It's much nicer to have a single cartridge that you use and never need to take out there after. This prevents over usage from pulling out a cart for every game.

They also have features like game genie if you're into that.

There is no clutter to deal with since all you will need is the TV/System and place to put away extra joysticks.

Having access to every game through roms is also more sensible than tossing your money at resellers who will charge for profit.

Game hacks work great and are a joy to play through the original system. Not to mention translated games that were never released in north america.

The N8 also plays FDS roms with auto disk flipping so you get access to even more games without need for software.

Many game roms have also been altered to work with the everdrive. like Castlevania 3, so you wont miss out on much at all.

The pure convenience of going through a list of games on screen and starting it up with a push of a button is so much better than looking through a wall of games that cost way more than should have been spent.

Lastly, girls may enjoy playing old games when they come over. They may think it's fucking awesome that you have this little set up in the corner of your place. But most won't think it's cool that you need an entire room to house that crap if you are buying cart after cart after cart. Not to mention the money you save in the long run.

Now if you don't mind, I'm off to continue my game of Zelda Outlands.

Pic Related - My small and uncluttered set up.

>>1845421
Theres quite a few for the SNES.
>Snes Powerpack - Not used cant say
>Super UFo pro 8 - Its cheap, and its pants
And the everdrives

>>1846337
It's more like the difference between watching a movie on VHS vs Betamax.

>>1846337
>>1845762

>>1847320
>Most carts are more than just a "ROM"

Yeah they're just pieces of fucking plastic.

>Most emulators are no where close to accurate.
>hurrr what is bsnes

>You're a poorfag that's butthurt that you can't have nice things.

Yeah I'm sure jealous of some worthless neckbeard who owns a bunch of useless pieces of plastic whose valuable ROM data is easily obtainable online for free. I should have wasted my money doing the same thing.

>>1847330
>youre
>your

>>1847715
what is a mapper?

>>1847838
Nice one, junk collector.

>>1847715
You have no money to waste poorfag

>>1849041
>>1847959
>>1847715
Strawman vs. Strawman
Who cares who wins!

>>1846317
agreed, only put a few at a time on there

>>1846317
>DON'T load up the entire catalog of game
too late

>>1850682
He who dies with the most ROMs wins.

>>1846337
Thanks anon I needed a good laugh, but I got way more than what I bargained for.


>>1847598
I guess I kinda agree with that... it's at least a much better analogy than that guy with the terminal autism.

>>1846317
Adding to this, if someone doesn't want to switch out games and keep the whole library on their cart they could try something like this from the /vr/ gauntlet thread:
http://s3kr.it/gauntlet.html

>>1845762
I cringe

>>1846317
Absolutely agreed. The reason I've gotten into buying physical systems/games is to combat this very issue. Before I would download an emulator and the entire library and just sit there

>>1845762
This is now copypasta

>>1856525
lol bruh

>>1847515
Very nice anon