/vr/ - Retro Games

Only RE1 through CV allowed.

>>1842369
fuck you I won't do what you tell me

>>1842369
Yes

Best to worst:
3>2>1>CV>Survivor
First game was no.1 back when i was about 10, i dunno. Found it ridiculously hard. In fact, I only ever completed the game years later when
I played it on PSP. I recall on PS1, getting to the cabin/outdoors bit, doing all that shit, killing that plant thing and then having no ink ribbons left/ammo. The game then thought it'd be a good idea to introduce hunters....Fuck.

Resi2 I have very fond memories of. Was considerably easier than the first one and alot funner. I used to find W. Birkin monster really scary, epecially when you hear it's "MEEEEARGH" while your just wandering around. That scene where ben/chief gets split in half, i used to love that bit. Wish they had never introduced Ada though, Ive always just thought she was a bitch.

And then came along Resi3, oh my what a glorious game. Killing Nemi everytime was great fun, and the shit you got for it was ace. Also gunpowder was a great idea. The backgrounds and locations/cgi I really enjoyed, was way cool to actually explore the city. Plus dynamic storylines made most playthroughs different! Ah too much positive stuff to say about it. Only thing i didnt like was that worm, man i hate that thing.

Survivor. What an atrocity. The main characters voice acting and the storyline was one of the worst on the PS1. "WAIT - I'M VINCENT?!" - dun dun dun. Less said the better.

CV is very enjoyable game, but maybe i've played it too many times. I find the best part to be everything before claire goes to antartica. I dont know why but I found the games atmosphere, or plot just worsened after that. Also Wesker is just sillly. And that Alexei/Alexander plot i never really understood.

Anywho theres my two cents!
Great series. Has now turned abysmal.
I hate all these constant remakes/HD upgrades, but ill probably buy it. The original gamecube game always looked terrific, I actually have it in my collection but only 1 disc :(

>>1842386
Survivor hit that "So bad its good" area. I fucking love that game. Its this menagerie of enemies from RE1 and 2 all from a first person perspective. It was the first RE to use a fully 3d environment. The twist reveal was just so random, like the kid was psychic and perfectly understood you were having an identity crisis and revealed the whole thing 5 minutes before the game ended.

I do like to think their helicopter went down in the ocean though, because Ark decided to fly as long as they had fuel.

>>1842373

Code Veronica just feels so... I guess "mellow" is the word I'm looking for. The 3D textures feel so clean and detailless compared to the pre-rendered textures of the other games. It just doesn't really hit any kind of strong note.

The monsters weren't very interesting either. The only thing that ever truly caught my attention were the bandersnatches and Shteeve, everything else just felt like "it was better in the previous game" or just plain dull. A mutant salamander, yeah that's scary.

The latter half of the game felt pretty phoned in too, not to mention nonsensical. Hey this looks like the first game, wow that's neat, oh wait no it isn't.

>>1842386
RE1 had the snake, RE2 had the crocodile, and RE3 had the worm. At least it contributed to the downfall of the city and it pursues you through out the town.

Can anyone provide the differences between RE3 and the Sourcenext rerelease?

CV was very formulaic as far as gameplay went. RE3 was more interesting as far as randomized items, semi-branching routes, the dodge mechanic, and mixing ammo for your weapon of choice.

>>1842373
never played this one is it any good lol does it have tank controls?

>>1842753
It's not very good, truth be told. It's basically an overhead adventure map where you have to avoid enemies, and fighting consists of going in to an FPS view where you have to time a moving icon as it moves over bars representing the enemy. If it sounds confusing and stupid, that's because it is.

Also, you can't see items on overhead map, and certain guns don't appear until after a certain point in the plot even though you can access the rooms and there is no explanation as to why there is suddenly a grenade launcher on those crates.

I only played 1 and CV and I loved both.

I should really try 2 and 3.

>>1842765
damn that sucks because id like a good RE game with sprites

alright so ive never played the newer ones and i get that there more action oriented but i can deal with that if at least its got a large area to explore and not A to B hallways so should i give them a try?

>>1842369
You do know RE0 was originally an N64 game?

4 is a great game, but not really a good Resident Evil game, while 5 and 6 are just awful.
Haven't played Revelations, though.

>>1842797
The thing is, 5 and 6 arent awful videogames. They only become terrible when you compare them to the rest of the series. Standalone, they are not too bad. Mercenaries is still fun? Right?!?

5 kind of missed the point. 6 was great except for the God awful directing. It plays well, but only if you play co-op mercenaries first to get a handle on how things are meant to be fought and you looked up the more advanced controls like how to automix herbs.

The story was a god damn mess that made sense if you watched the whole thing in order, but comes off as ridiculous playing it campaign by campaign. Similarly, the lack of exposition, while common in Japanese media, really hurts the game because there IS just so much going on.

The skill system also fucks you over because you have to spend a LOT of time playing mercenaries to get enough points to make the fun builds. It's really off-putting in comparison to upgrading guns.

>>1842836
Sure.

My only gripe about 6 is how extreme it is. Every jump is followed by a big explosion or a building collapsing. Every character saving another from a fall is just by the nick of time, grabbing them by the tip of their fingers. Every fall is hundreds of meters long followed by tons of shit going with you. Every dodge is in the very last second possible, missing just by a hair. Every run is the fastest and most intense run ever, if you slow down a little you die.

The game's so extreme and action-packed it feels like a parody of action movies sometimes.

>>1842791
Well if you haven't RE4 and the REmake are absolutely fantastic for different reasons. RE4 is practically the perfect action game.

>>1842386
I think I like RE2 more than 3 just because of the goofier story and more characters to play around with.

Nemesis fights were always the best part of the game though. I loved when you had to play as Carlos and fend him off from an unconscious Jill. Really tense and action-packed.

Truthfully, I only liked Resident Evil 2.

1 was a little too archaic for my tastes, even with the remake, and I don't like the whole "spooky mansion" bits, the fact that you spend so little time in the cool lab was a shame.

3 is a action game under the pretense of 'survival horror'. Had some cool ideas but I just couldn't get into it no matter how hard I tried.

Code Veronica completely loses me. The Matrix inspired cutscenes is a bigger clash to the series than even RE4.

>>1842886
I think you've hit the nail on the head here. I dont own no.6, only played it round a friends and watched him play, but thats pretty much exactly how I felt. I was watching Ada fighting some dude on top of a bridge between skyscapers and it was ridiculously OTT. The guy who started off as a normal person kept morphing into this fucking ridiculously sized monster every now and then. I know its Resi, but at least make it, a tiny bit plausible..

>>1842903
To be fair, that boss is the result of the super boosted C-virus that not-Ada spent half the game making. It's G-virus/T-veronica virus mixed with Wesker Aids. It's supposed to be nasty, apocalyptic shit.

Of course, if all you've seen is Leon's campaign, all you really know is the dude got sniped with a syringe and now he's some sort of T-Rex transformer.

The first one I played was RE1, which was... meh. RE2 was amazing and ended up being my favorite one in the series. I must've played through Claire and Leon's A and B campaigns dozens of times until I could speed run them all at an S rank. RE3 was... okay, but adding the ability to dodge around made the game much easier. Once you get good at it, you can easily carve Nemesis up with the knife in melee and conserve massive stockpiles of ammunition.

>>1842902
its weird you dislike the 1st for the spooky mansion setting and thats one of the reasons its my favorites

aside from dino crisis are there any games like RE 1 and 2?

>>1842795
I'm sure he does know that but it wasn't released on the N64. Nor was Eternal Darkness.

>>1842836
I never understood the hate for 5. It played just like RE4 and Sheva was a likable and sexy partner. I didn't like 6 as much because it felt a bit off to me. Weapons didn't feel as powerful and enemies were total bullet sponges.

>>1842902
There was never a remake of RE2. Just ports with slight graphical updates.

>>1843638
This. I'll always prefer the original over RE2 because of the setting. The mansion and the guard house are more memorable and REmake perfected it. I'll still always wonder how Richard managed to get himself trapped in the aqua ring though. You'd think he would have stopped once he hit waist high water.

>>1842753
It's "kind of" an RPG, but not really.

Basically, it has an overhead camera view and when you touch enemies, you enter combat. You can even travel around with a 3 person party and there's status ailments and equipment.

The problems start when you realize that there's no leveling up and the combat system blows absolute ass. Basically, a meter moves back and forth and you try to hit the action button near your enemy's center of mass to do max damage. But you have no control over this meter. It just zips back and forth at whatever speed and if you don't like it, fuck you. Additionally, it's fairly linear and there's literally holes in the floor to make SURE you don't go where you're not supposed to. "Puzzles" are basically just item fetch quests put in place to slow you down and ALL enemies are variations of basic zombies. IT's a fairly basic, no frills game in a lot of ways.

Also, the plot is retarded and they do absolutely everything they can to be as neutral as possible with ALL plot elements. So it's hard to say if the game ever happened or not. Though the ending does suggest that it doesn't.

Not going to say it's unplayable or anything, but it's definitely ONLY for RE fanboys. Because I can fucking guarantee that literally no one but the most hardcore obsessive RE fans will enjoy this game even slightly.

I've personally beaten it 3 times (card carrying RE fanboy, guilty as charged) and I fucking hate it and think it blows. So take from that what you will.

>I've personally beaten it 3 times and I fucking hate it and think it blows.

just when i begin to think i understand people on this board

>>1844054
>>1844071
Sometimes you need to play the game a lot to realize what a steaming pile of shit it is.

Playthrough 1 is usually fun for most games, some bullshitty moments usually offput by the good moments.

Subsuquent playthroughs are usually much more critical of a games negatives. If something irked you in a first playthrough it could be intolerable in a second or third playthrough.

Which is why game reviews are a joke. They either beat it on the lowest difficulty set, or barely beat it and give their criticisms. Subsequent playthroughs are the true test of a game.

>>1844085
So this is that "artificial fun" I've heard so much about on /v/.

>>1844085
I was expecting a story of "I was 12 and this was literally my only GBC game"

>>1843975
Parasite Eve
Carrier
Illbleed in a weird sense but the other two are closer

>>1844226
The Obscure games are alright as far as budget survival horror titles go.

>>1844219
I pity any kid who only had Resident Evil Gaiden as their only GBC game. Good lord.

>>1844226
>>1844237
thanks

>>1844256
Uhh, pretty sure that game wasn't even released.

>>1844292
It was but I doubt there were too many copies printed. It's probably one of the rarer GBC carts.

>>1844327
Also, I believe you're thinking of the cancelled GBC port of the original Resident Evil.

>>1844071
Not retro, but I ended up beating Metroid Prime Hunters 2 twice, because the first time I was in such shock over how awful the game was, i thought "my brain must be playing tricks on me. No way could a game be this ass. I must have played it wrong." Second time proved that indeed, the game sucked that much.

It happens.

Favorite one is RE2
First game was RE1 (before DC and DS version)

>>1842363
Out of the retro ones that I've played, my ranking would be:

RE1>Code Veronica>RE2>RE3

Code Veronica has a lot of backtracking but I really like the plot. Plus the graphics were incredible looking at the time.

>>1844363
RE1 was the very first Playstation game I owned and it scared the shit out of me. The only way I was able to finish it the first time was using a GameShark to give myself infinite health and the rocket launcher with infinite ammo. Of course I later went back and beat it the proper way. I've loved the series ever since.

Never played 0 or any of the Outbreak games.
Did I miss much?

>>1844742
Yes. 0 Was pretty good, though a lot of people dislike certain aspects of it. Namely, the inventory system, where there are no item boxes and you just drop items on the floor. Kind of works out ok if you treat certain rooms like item rooms anyway, though the biggest complaint people had was having to backtrack to get the damn hook shot because it isn't just a one time use item. If you play the game, you'll see what I mean.

The Outbreaks were fantastic though. If you have a good PC, it is highly suggested you emulate them. On console they were kind of bad because if you didn't have a hard drive loading times were huge, but emulating that isn't an issue.

RE2 > RE3 > RE1
My favourite is RE4 though

>>1842369
>what's your favorite RE game
>gotta pretend like ones made after 1999 don't exist!
fuck off, best RE is REmake. Second place goes to RE2

Every fucking time those "RE threads" are excuses to talk about non retro games. Just go to /v/.

>>1844921
RE0's item system was fucking awesome though. I hated puzzle rooms in the older games where you'd need to pick up and use a bunch of items, but it was all isolated to that room. Even so, you couldn't just quickly drop stuff to make room for the puzzle items and you'd need to go all the way back to a save room just so you can pick up another item which you would immediately use anyway.

>Only RE1 through CV allowed
>everyone winds up talking about 4, 5 and 6 anyways

>>1844970
come on man aside from graphics how can you like 4 over 1 and 2 which has some of the most GOAT atmosphere

I remember seeing commercials for REmake back in the day; I was about 8 when I first played it so i have some good memories.
>Be creeping round dat mansion
>FInd a body
>Feel uncomfortable around the body because it's looks crispified
>Back snaps backward revealing helluva fast zombie
>Can't go to sleep for weeks, so my older siblings take the heat for buying an M-rated game

After that, I wasn't allowed to touch the PS2 because my brother owned Re4 and the first DMC. Also
>Brother's first time playing Re4
>Gets to the village
>Chainsaw guy comes out after cutscene
>NOPE.JPG
>Eventually catches up to leon
>Jumps thorugh window and corners him
>Brother drps conrtroller whilst yelling "HORY SHIT".

So what do you think the odds are that the demo for this will ever see the light of day? I'm guessing even if there is someone at Capcom they'll first have to get past the legal team and a bunch of other bureaucrats before it's greenlit. Not to mention that they're not gonna profit from it.

>>1843638

yep. I love the mixture of horror with a cozy environment.

>>1843638
>>1844008
>>1848110
these guys get it a giant spookey house is GOAT scary atmosphere when your a kid oh god RE1 was so good

>>1844363
How was the DS version compared to the others?

>>1849330
DS version lets you skip door loading and touch screen is nice for the menu. Otherwise pretty straight-forward port as far as I could tell.

Speaking of handhelds, 1.5 should work fine on a PSP once it's done right? The team said they are aiming to have it work on actual PSX hardware so I would think so. I just hope they finish before Capcom brings down the hammer.

>>1844742
The Outbreak games were one of the most underrated and unique games available for the PS2. Seriously, they were fucking cool.
Also, you can actually play Outbreak online because of a fan project that's going on.
http://www.obsrv.org/viewtopic.php?f=10&t=545
Pretty neat stuff.

>>1849375

It also has rebirth mode which breathes some life into the game, as well as a multiplayer game.

The knife is also mapped to the L button and no longer requires an item slot. You also have the ability to do an instant 180 turn like in RE3.

Oh, and you can poke Chris in his butt during the idle animation and you can poke Jill in her tits and ass.

>>1849476
Shit, I'll have to actually play through it. I just loaded up the first 15 minutes to see how it ran. I only have a DS Phat and the screen felt a bit small for the level of detail.

>>1849476
>poke Jill in her tits and ass

HNNNNNG!

REmake and 2 are two of my favourite games. I started to speedrun 2 because I knew where everything was after playing it so much and it feels so good getting an optimal path.

Gotta say though no matter what is said about RE4 my god the opening blew my mind when I first played it. Go into the village and the bell starts chiming and eventually the chainsaw guy comes out, I didn't play it for two months after I got it because I thought it was too intense.

was six the death of the series?

>>1851945
No.

>>1851945
No RE game has more refined gameplay than RE6.

>>1842797
And here we have a guilty RE fan throwing his dissatisfaction towards RE5 and RE6 instead of RE4, because he/she doesn't want to feel responsible for turning RE series into a third-person shooter.

The "but not really a good Resident Evil game" argument confirm this.

>>1842892
> RE4 is practically the perfect action game.
RE4 is outdated as fuck and RE6 improved almost every aspect of it.

>>1843994
>and enemies were total bullet sponges.
This isn't RE4. You need to do more than "bullet spraying" monsters to kill them properly.

>>1845716
not the same anon but youre forgetting gameplay son

I still remember where I was, who I was with and how scared we all were when this happened. I hope you do too.

Only RE I've played is 4 and 5, but I really wanna go back and play its roots. Should I start with RE1 or REmake, or skip them for RE2?

>>1853103

The new melee system is nice. Too bad the level design is fucking horrid, the guns feel like airsoft replicas, and it went off the deep end with QTEs

>>1853159

RE1 is the one resident evil game I have a hard time going back to, but it's still worth playing. REmake is not /vr/, but it's the most atmospheric resident evil game by about a mile. I'd honestly suggest it over the original.

>>1842363
CV was my first and favorite. Claire is so hot in RE:CV.

>>1853152
I sure do, I was about six at the time and my dad bought RE for himself. Most of the games I was aware of then were cheerful cartoony things like Mario or Sonic, and when I saw him get to that part I noped so hard and didn't even go near the game for years

>>1842527

>Can anyone provide the differences between RE3 and the Sourcenext rerelease?

There's no real differences between it an the original PC version. If we're talking PC/Sourcenext compared to console release then the PC version has two extra costumes and you can select your costume as soon as you start the game (so you can never get into the costume room as the key isn't obtainable in the PC versions).

>>1842527
>>1853292

The sourcenext version has higher quality FMW; and even ingame graphics are a bit better than the original PC version.

The biggest difference with the sourcenext version however, is that sourcenext version = japanese version only, and Biohazard 3 is notably easier than Resident Evil 3 (you have more HP, bosses including Nemesis have less HP, etc).

Also, maybe that's just me though, but in the sourcenext version I'd get a split second (like half a second) loading time between every camera angle; while in the original PC release there was so loading time between camera angles at all and it was super smooth. But still, even the sourcenext version and its split second loading time is much better than the loading time you get between camera angles in any console version of RE3.

But for last 2 reasons I'd rather play the original PC version rather than sourcenext. RE3 is already an easy game; not need to play the easy Jap version.

>>1853307
I watched Sourcenext on YouTube and it runs noticeably smoother than the original, faster than my game and other videos. It's odd that you have lengthier loading times since Sourcenext was meant to solve some WinXP compatibility issues.

>>1853307

Was it ever stated why the first game never got a SourceNext release?

>>1854016
Yeah no idea, I should try again on my new computer... though like I said i'd rather play the western version due to difficulty changes anyway.

Also another difference between sourcenext and original PC versions is that only the original PC versions support mods. As far as RE3 is concerned, that doesn't mean much though, only some skin mods, as it's very hard to mod for (due to the semi-randomness of the game and the way they trigger and how events are related/change depending on what the player does); but for RE2 there are a few gameplay mods which are pretty cool, like Requiem Of Spies.

>>1854953
No idea... what's weird is that, unless I'm mistaking, Virgin owned the publishing rights to the PC versions of 1 and 2, but Eidos had RE3.

>>1854016
Yeah no idea, I should try again on my new computer... though like I said i'd rather play the western version due to difficulty changes anyway.

Also another difference between sourcenext and original PC versions is that only the original PC versions support mods. As far as RE3 is concerned, that doesn't mean much though, only some skin mods, as it's very hard to mod for (due to the semi-randomness of the game and the way they trigger and how events are related/change depending on what the player does); but for RE2 there are a few gameplay mods which are pretty cool, like Requiem Of Spies.

What I wonder and I'm not sure about is for RE2: Biohazard 2 is easier than RE2; however both PC versions (and in each region) have the 'western' and 'easter' versions available. However, I don't know if that only contains the differences between jap/western of item placement, or if it also has the differences in terms of player and enemies HP (if it also has the later, that would mean you CAN play the real western difficulty of RE2 in BH2 sourcenext).

>>1854953
No idea... what's weird is that, unless I'm mistaking, Virgin owned the publishing rights to the PC versions of 1 and 2, but Eidos had RE3.

>>1853159
Both? REmake really hits you hard out the gate & the tiny gamecube dpad does nothing to make the experience pleasant. Play RE1, RE2, RE2beta, RE3 & CV first, then play Zero & REmake. Games should really be played in release date order. If you're playing with a real GC, get a GC2PS2 adapter or some 3rd party controller with a larger dpad. That dpad is just too fucking small for RE controls.

>>1856050
You know REmake is on wii as well, right?

>>1842363
>First Game
Resident Evil for PS1
>What Age
I was probably 10 or 11
>Favorite Game
Resident Evil Zero or 2 on Game Cube. ReMake is pretty good too. All the Game Cube ones are pretty GOAT

>>1856050
> If you're playing with a real GC, get a GC2PS2 adapter

I did this and, wow, the difference is incredible. REmake actually has some of the best, smoothest tank controls of any RE game; the problem is that you can't realize it with the GC pad and the GC pad by itself ruin the controls you have on the character!

Then I also get an adaptor to use a PS2 pad on the XBOX, just so I could play the xbox version of Onimusha (the best version of the game, only reason i bought the console) properly too; cause the xbox pad is even worse than the GC pad for tank controls.

>>1856082
The adapter also comes in handy for Bomberman Generation's story mode. There's one point where you've gotta jam the fuck outta the buttons to avoid being crushed by a bolder and no matter how hard I tried, I could not do it. Pulled out the adapter & cheated with generic ps2 rapid fire controller.

>>1856054
>playing with wiimote
why would you ever subject yourself to that level of abuse?

>>1856050
>>1856082
So what's wrong with analog stick? How did you get an idea of using dpad on GC controller as primary input method?

>>1856107
>he never played classic RE1 controls
Kid, up is forward and down is backward. while left & right change the direction your facing, not move you left & right. They're called "tank controls" for a reason. When RE1 was designed & released the first dualshock did NOT exist. RE1-CV was ALWAYS designed with the dpad as the primary input. If you're actually playing any title prior to RE4 with the analog stick, you're doing it wrong. REmake only has analog control support because Capcom knew the tiny dpad was even worse. It was never designed around it, it's just a bandaid.

>>1856107
I didn't say I played using the GC's d-pad. Before I got the adapter, I used the analog stick, but I always found it terrible. There is no precision with the stick..

>>1856195
The problem with using the analog stick with REmake is that the stick has to be pretty much at 100% in order to actually go. It's like they just utilized the stick like a d-pad. You'll be running forward and want to turn to the right, so you move the stick in the up-right position and it'll keep moving you straight until you move the stick completely up-right. It's annoying as hell. You pretty much have to use the d-pad in that game.

>>1853145
+1
RE4 is best RE

>>1856149
It didn't? I thought Ape Escape introduced the Analog as we know it?

>open thread
>it dies

>First Game
Resident Evil 0
>Age
13 or 14
>Favorite game
Either RE1 for the PSX or RE2.

>>1857143
you can stop trolling