/vr/ - Retro Games

They just clean it before they ship it out./post it online.

The higher standards exist because of Japan's much bigger second-hand market. Renting games has been illegal as early as the Famicom era, so instead a large percentage of players sold their games/systems/accessories after playing them, or at the end of a console generation. Obviously, if it's in better condition or complete they would get more money for it, which is why it's so much easier to find cardboard boxes for FC/SFC games unlike boxes for NES/SNES games.

>>1831263
>Renting games has been illegal as early as the Famicom era

Huh, I never knew that.

>>1831235
>take care of their shit
>all that dead skin

>>1831272
He's using the picture of an example of non-japanese care.

>game listed as "C" condition
>is 70% cheaper than the same game listed as "A"
>arrives in the post
>has a tiny dent in the corner of the box otherwise brand new

Gotta love Japs and their high standards

>>1831315
I hate seeing that picture.

>>1831320
it holds a special place in my gore folder

>retro game store in Osaka
>stack of Saturns, 3000 yen
>one is listed as "damaged" for only 2000 yen
After I got it home, it took me like five minutes of scouring the case to find a faint 1cm scratch on it

>>1831328
So am I correct in thinking that there is no reseller scum in Japan?

>>1831325

I wonder if there is a Japanese equivalent for this

>>1831364
They would probably all have to agree to start jewing for them for it to work. Otherwise everyone would just go down the street.

>>1831384
who cares about that, it's just some doodle. Remember this shit was made for children and children used to own them.

That being said, i was sort of a purist since i started playing at 5 years old and never painted or scratched any cart, ever

Obligatory.

>>1831409
That bubble word font just makes me cringe more then anything.

>>1831315
What the hell is that? Puke?

>>1831409
>custom art work

HA HA OH WOW

Well I have to give him credit for being creative about it as opposed to just saying "acceptable condition"

Also is this now a /vr/ horror and gore thread?

>>1831420
Actually its dog shit...

seriously

>>1831424
STOP IT ;_;

I would take every last one of those home, and try to salvage them.

Excellent condition
serious offers only

>>1831429
So would I.

I'd imagine a lot of it would be salvageable. Well maybe not a lot...anything cardboard is beyond hope...and anything with labels...or manuals...

the consoles might be ok if they were cleaned and left to dry

>>1831439
>all that white space

They couldn't make the picture a little bigger?

I carved stuffed like my name and the nWo logo into one of my N64 controllers. It was the appropriate time period.

>>1831476
Punch yourself in the face for me.

Just a reminder, permanent marker isn't so permanent. Usually.

http://youtu.be/y-8wcfig6z0

>>1831476
>the nWo logo
I like you.

>>1831426
my first thought was that is was shit, literally

>>1831424
tsunami?

My mom made me write my name on games if I took them over to a friend's house in case some bastard tried to steal them.

>>1831716

Loads of kids did steal games. Like they borrowed your game and then lied straight to your face while their parents couldn't believe that their beautiful snowflake could be a thief

>>1831737
>loan killer instinct to sisters friend (begrundegly)
>have to fucking hound the nigger to give it back

>>1831683
Actually, no.
It's a tradition in some Japanese cultures to take used electronics and toss them into a man-made pool of water, a hole dug in loose soil before a heavy rain. While not documented, it is not uncommon for participants to void their bowels in the pool to complete the ritual.

>>1831737
That's why I stopped lending people games until people became adults and stopped being little shits.

>>1831476

You're alright, bro.

>>1831737
>friend insists I borrow OoT and MM as I said I hadn't played them
>almost no interest in playing
>offer to return them two weeks later with almost no playtime
>he says I should keep them

So now I have OoT and MM and I've barely touched either.

>>1831364
There is. Take a look at e.g. the price of Radiant Silvergun

>>1831737
I used to steal my friends games until I'd beat them then when I'd spend the night I'd put it back under a couch or something lol.

japanese have respect for video games unlike americans

>>1831432
Fucking hell I was expecting that cart to be something super common like Sonic.

>>1831364
There is, but it's much different than in Western countries. Because so many more games are available there in general and because Japanese people actually take care of their things more often, prices are much lower. There are still some really sought-after and/or rare titles that fetch insane prices though. Their grading systems are much more strict so you can find something in what we'd call near mint for half the price of what they call near mint. At really established shops like Friends in Akihabara I've gotten stuff that is like new but was graded as "B" or "C" for a fraction of the price. Especially if you just want the games to play and not to enshrine them as relics it's amazing.

>>1831384
There is. I got a big lot of games from a friend with stuff like "Property of Takeshi" and whatnot written on it (in Japanese obviously). It all came off easily though.

>>1832829
Huh, didn't know that game was valuable or anything. Guess I lucked out getting my copy for next to nothing years ago.

And apparently Hyperstone Heist, too. Jesus. I thought my only disproportionately valuable game was Conker.

>>1831364
So am I correct in thinking you aren't aware that modded Saturns can be easily found for 500 yen?

>>1833010
Mod chips alone cost more than 500 JPY.

>>1833875
That is correct. I have to buy a Saturn with a mod chip inside to get that price.

>Look for a Dreamcast online
>Condition: Has some coloration but otherwise fine
>Look at the picture
>It's slightly yellow but not too much
>Buy it

Then I got it and spent an afternoon cleaning sticky brown gunk off of the system and both controllers. The controllers were the stickiest. What the fuck did he do to them? Dip them in soda?

>>1833903
lel

>>1833903
>buy N64
>says good condition
>arrives and reset button is stuck down
>open it up to see why
>it's stuck to the plastic with soda
>there's soda stains all over the metal covering the motherboard
>stickiness everywhere
>somehow someone spilled a soda into the 64
>it still works perfectly except for the reset button and that was easily fixed by taking out the button and rubbing Windex on it

>>1833936
Oh God fuck.
I would suggest scrubbing the housing and literally everything with a soft toothbrush, dish soap, and warm water. Then spray everything with 90% alcohol and let it dry for a half a day in front of a space heater.

Best way to get rid of that kind of shit.

>>1833936
My Sega CD was full of petrified cola syrup when I bought it. Took FOREVER to dissolve it in HOT water. The eject switch had to be pushed back into its default position to keep the lid closed until I cleaned the whole shell out.

>>1833945
90% alcohol is a little tricky to find here. They're making it harder to get since so many drug making processes use it. I cleaned out most of it but I think I'll be fine because
a) the protective shield stopped the soda
b) the N64 has no moving parts besides the power button and reset button

Nothing can fuck up the internal workings of a 64 unless it gets past that shield and even if it does I don't have the skills to clean a circuit board anyway. It's a little disgusting but not a major deal.

>>1831364
http://www.ebay.com/itm/WOW-Super-Famicom-Nintendo-Game-console-System-RARE-Japan-R28-/231293912557?pt=Video_Games&hash=item35da3105ed

>>1833958
>RARE
What the actual fuck

>>1833958
Holy shit. The patina on that thing makes it looks awesome.

Looks like it belongs in starwars or something.
Kind-of-want.

>>1833964
That discoloration comes from nicotine residue. Are you sure you want that? It is basically impossible to make that thing ever smell good again.

>>1833972
I probably wouldn't buy it, no. but if I got it for free, I'd keep it that way for sure, with no cleaning.

>>1833972
Sure that's nicotine and not just the plastic oxidizing?

>>1833985
It doesn't get that dark without help.

>>1833958
Na-ka-mu-u-da-chi-ko-u-he-i.

According to my knowledge of Japanese, this has 'Justice' written on it. And anything with Justice is worth the price.

>>1834015
Oh, and Gyroman is the coolest shit.

>>1834004
True, it is rather dark.

Pretty sure you could clean that off with hydrogen peroxide or something

>>1834015
wut. Seigi is the most immediate translation of justice.

>>1834023
The smell is permanent though.

I had the shell of a system soaking in peroxide, alcohol, and even febreeze for almost a month each, and it still made my room stink.

>>1834029
And? Are you trying to say that there's no such thing as synonyms in Japanese?

'Kouhei' means 'fairness' and 'justice', just in different context.

Are you not an ally of justice anon? Are you Dai-Neo-Shocker?

>bought a genesis off ebay
>looked great was really well packed
>then I touched it
>sticky as fuck, filthy buttons etc.

I suppose its to be expected. I would have cleaned it thoroughly regardless of condition.

also

there was a mars bar wrapper in the cartridge slot

>>1834015
It's actually "Nakamura Taichi Kouhei". It probably belonged to two brothers.

>>1834052
>Dai
What a shitty way to write "i".

>>1834034
Not sure if it works and it might even be a bit too aggressive, but have you tried vinegar?

>>1834056
No, I didn't, but as far as I know it never helped. My mother always said vinegar helps, but all it did was make her shit smell like smoke and vinegar.

I got rid of that system a long time ago.
The person I gave it to brought it back two days later complaining that it didn't work, and that I was responsible for fixing it. His cat pissed in it.

Soap and hot water, with a rag and a toothbrush. Haven't seen it fail yet. Dry erase marker for permanent markers.

Do not use magic eraser for anything. It is a HARSH abrasive and will wreck shit.

>>1834069
>>1834090
Best way I've found to get rid of cigarette smell in shit like carts and manuals is to wrap it in those like Bounce Anti-static dryer sheets. Those things are like odor sponges.

Wrap the thing in dryer sheets and put it in a ziplock bag and leave it for a day or two. If it still smells consider wrapping it again and leaving it for more time.

>buy a shitload of games that reek of cigarettes
>do my trick, leave literally a sheet between each page of a manual
>bag it for 3 days
>sheets have visibly yellowed
>smell mostly gone

I had to do a few of the manuals again, but it was like.. night and day the difference. Shit smells good once you've done it.

>>1831789
I have something similar to this.
>Love Kirby 64 and always rent it when given the chance
>Friend owns it, and I play it whenever I come over
>Friend says to borrow it one day. I don't really like borrowing stuff, but do it after some convincing
>Play it for a while, and bring it with me the next time I go over to his house
>Notice his N64 is gone
>He got rid of it to get a PS2 and wanted me to have the game since it was my favorite

Still have that game! Still one of my favorites!

What's the best way to clean grime and such off plastic?

I have some colored N64 controllers that have accumulated filth down the gaps between buttons and shell, and want to clean them as best as possible but don't know what I should use or how to approach it. There's no discoloration and I scraped out most of the thick shit (godlike feeling like popping zits would do again) and I'm wondering what cleaning fluid to apply to tidy it up without leaving streaks.

>>1834148
Disassembly is the only way to get the stuff thats in the deep nooks and crannies. Then use something like a tooth brush to gently get it out.

>>1831683
No, it was a flood, IIRC. New Zealand or something.

>>1831767
I lent my friend my ps2 about 4 years ago.
I hound him about it now and then he doesnt know where it is. My ps2 ps1 memory card I had since child, ps2 memory card, and like 5 games, and 2 controllers.

Just like
How does all that just disappear?

>>1834148
Rubbing alcohol.

>>1834161
he sold it for weed

>>1834161
He pawned that shit dude.

>>1831325
People everywhere write on their shit.

>>1831476
>>1831547
>nwo logo
>pic related comes to mind

>>1831315
i hope that's nutella

>>1834348
Dude... ...
I'm never gonna eat Nutella ever again

No pictures but I garage sale here in Florida quite a lot. About 75% of the stuff is filthy and I have to clean it thoroughly. Most cartridge games I find won't work until I sandpaper / alcohol rub the contacts. Also have to clorox wipe the carts to get all the marker / dirt / sticky crap off. Systems have to be taken apart and thoroughly cleaned. Luckily the stuff usually is fixable to look pretty good after cleaned. I never got games that dirty when I was a kid not sure why people feel the need to get their stuff as dirty as possible.

A couple years ago I picked up a Dreamcast at a peddler's mall stall for $35
It was yellowed and had the familiar smell of a smoker's home.
Burnt some games, found the laser to be a bit weak, went to tweak it... they glued the fucking screws in...
A little heat and turning, and I got them out, but now it's held together by some nice orange duct tape.

Also have a SNES I owned as a kid, but like I said, smoke was familiar...
The controllers were absolutely disgusting, so I disassembled and scrubbed the fuck out of one of them. Night and day difference.
The SNES itself is another story, and it's been sitting in a sooty room (thank you, fire place).

My PSX avoided the brunt of that and surprisingly the controller was relatively clean.

Some of my not retro stuff was either picked up grimy or, as a favor from acquaintances, made grimy. I need to clean the SNES controllers again...

Here's a tip for anyone how wants to remove sharpie or any other permanent marker:

If the sharpie was used on a hard plastic its easy to remove.
Simply get a dry erase marker and use said dry erase marker to draw a black box over the sharpie.
Now use a cloth or whiteboard eraser to remove the black box you drew and the sharpie underneath.

I've used this method to make carts like >>1831325
look like new.

*notes: let the dry erase marker box you drew sit for 10 seconds, but don't let it dry!

>>1834356

>>1834361
>Florida
Get yourself out of that fucking shithole. Florida is fucking garbage. It is a curse, a pox on this planet.

>>1835071
I love hiking and mountains so will probably move out some day. For now all my friends and family are still here so would be hard to transition. What's it like in other states ? Better jobs, quality of living, etc ? I've only vacationed out of FL never lived anywhere else.

>>1833010

Source?

I tried modding my saturn last week but I think I fucked up the chip because I have no idea how to fucking solder

>>1831439
>Don't play this game with out asking
What a little bastard, it's not like you could fuck anything up in a DKC save

>>1831409
>No apostrophe S

I'd probably pick it up otherwise.

>>1833903
My cats used to piss on my consoles if I played them on the floor and not have them on/by the TV. Especially pic related.

>>1835742
They aren't really pissing.
They are spraying on them. Which is like cat jizz.
It's disgusting. Get your cats spayed to stop it.

>>1835747
They were and are all fixed, de-flea'd, and vaccinated. I don't know why they always did that.

>>1832829
What game is it?

>>1835751
Weird.

>>1835753
Castlevania: bloodlines

>>1835751
Anxiety issues. My cat is the same but, being mind fucked by a previous owner, shits and sprays everywhere when she's nervous.

>>1835763
oh fuck

>mfw "junk" bins at Japanese game stores

Is there any way to clean marker stains off sticker labels or are you just fucked?

>>1835684
>Source?
The same place the reseller who sells them for 3000 yen buys them. Anywhere in Japan except a reseller.

I'm guessing you have a model 1? What are the symptoms? Or maybe ask on the repairs thread to keep things on topic.

>>1831737

I lost my Chrono Trigger this way
>dad always said never let anyone borrow games
>get to 11th grade, surely people are trustworthy by now
>lend CT
>sorry anon my mom threw it out

The fuck she did...

>>1831789
>Friends loans me Ape Escape
>Said I can borrow it for as long as I want
>Never asks for it back
>Eventually I bring it up
>Threatened to knife me if I ever ask about giving it back again
Knowing him, he probably would have, too.

>>1831424
>That purple gamecube stick
Gets me every time

I fuckin wanted one of those forever

>>1831789
>>1836768
>>1834139
Not retro but
>Used to play and trade video games all the time with my downstairs neighbor
>One day he knocks on my door to hand me FUCKING TIMESPLITTERS 2 FOR FREE
>Says he gave it to me cause he didn't like it
Best day ever.

>>1832796
Yeah just look at all the piles of retro European games in mint condition

I've been talking about this topic a lot lately. Japanese versions of games are cheaper, mostly complete (box with inserts and manuals) AND in far better condition than what you'd typically expect in the west. I'm actually seriously learning japanese so I can buy the japanese releases of the games because of how cheap they are and how much better they're treated.

Y'all motherfuckers need jauce:
http://www.jauce.com/

>>1836851
I mean, just LOOK at how cheap some of this shit is:

http://www.jauce.com/search/n64

>>1836851
>>1836854
That's not very subtle, Mr. Marketer.

>>1835684
I, too, fuck things up when I solder. Remember the afterburner mod for the original gba? Only thing i have ever half decently soldered

>>1836851
Shit man, I not /vr/ related found the bass I've spent a good year looking for.

Thanks m8.

>>1831424
>Hi-Leg Fantasy

>>1835941
Over time the ink will have adsorbed into the label.
So no, it's fucked.

>>1836851
>>1836854
800 yen PLUS 8% of the final closing as a fee. A FEE. Not including international shipping or customs shit. Nigger, NO one needs that shit.

Not retro but how do you remove sticker from ps2/dvd game cases?

>>1838816
I peel it off the best I can.
Then I use goo-gone or alchohol to rub the residue
off.

>>1836851
The prices aren't even that good especially when you take in to account a service fee, plus tax and then delivery on top of that

>>1831325
The likely reason for that shit other than being a little kid is to deter theft. Having a uniquely marked up cart allows someone to differentiate the cart from a normal cart any shithead on the street can say is his. But that one that's marked up is clearly yours.

>>1831432
I have yet to find a Sega Genesis for sale that isn't dusty or filthy, and the included games aren't Sonic or Madden. Bonus points if the only boxed games are fucking sports games, and their cases look as if a wild beast attacked it.

Did the lowest of the low buy the Genesis or something? Most of the Genesis consoles I saw were usually in rural areas.

>>1838940
The better option was never lending your games to anyone or taking them with you anywhere.

>>1838851
seriously
>learning japanese

going to that extent is a last resort

also i think part of the actual value of a game is because of the version, like the Jap version should be obviously cheaper and less valuable even as a collectible to someone from the west

>>1834108
Goddamn I wish I'd known about this when I bought my complete copy of Light Crusader off eBay that smelled like a dirty park ash tray. Had to throw away the case but kept the disturbingly sticky instruction manual. Damn game didn't save either. I just wanted to ahnswer the riddle.

>>1834157
It was in QLD Australia

>>1839091
The Genesis I bought from a yard sale was in excellent condition (except for the controllers with a semi-broken B-button) with the all the games being in their cases, which were also in great condition with all the manuals and stuff. But it did come with Sonic and Madden though.

>Friend passes back controller after using it
>It's all greasy as shit