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Doom 4 reveal! Well, kinda. Only those dudes who were actually at Quakecon got to see it firsthand, but here's a basic rundown of what happened there. It might not be terrible! http://pastebin.com/W8P7fdq3

The rumor mill/Tarnsman says Back to Saturn X's second episode will come out on September 1st. Nevermind that they're more like full seasons, but hey!

hobomaster22 is making a mod manager for Doom in the vein of Quake Injector, and has built-in /idgames support! It's pretty neat, give it a look. http://www.doomworld.com/vb/doom-general/69346-doom-frontend-development-beta/

Here's a music stream that only plays Doom music, 24/7; feel free to listen if you're interested http://liquiddoom.net/ (direct link 403s)

Some anons did a 200 min. speedmap WAD and this is the result! http://www.doomworld.com/idgames/?id=17781 COMPLETELY VANILLA, tell us what you think!

Wanna see John Romero deathmatching in 2014? Do you live in England? He will be present at Revival '14 on August 9, see more details here http://www.doomworld.com/vb/post/1283115; for reference, this happened at GDC http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLXkipPv0b4KMKE7z3WwlYYUCDLACNoYfE..

The Space Pirate still hasn't updated! Latest version is currently https://drive.google.com/file/d/0BxbbtKR5bll_anFPaVhUQVZqcnM/edit?usp=sharing (tutorial: http://youtu.be/mrFF8LCZw5Y).).

HDoom has its 5th techdemo! http://www.best-ever.org/download?file=m12-hdoom-techdemo5.pk3

Mods that also got updated (links lead to their forum thread)

Doom RPG (not the mobile game): http://forum.zdoom.org/viewtopic.php?f=19&t=33292
Hideous Destructor: http://forum.zdoom.org/viewtopic.php?t=12973
Pirate Doom: http://forum.zdoom.org/viewtopic.php?t=32674
DoomRL Arsenal: http://forum.zdoom.org/viewtopic.php?t=37044
GMOTA: http://forum.zdoom.org/viewtopic.php?p=742401
Got something news-worthy? Reply to this post, or it'll likely be missed.

First time going through plutonia on UV, fuck arch-viles.

Oh thank god this was finally remade.

On topic: What are some good wads that are long as well? Like over 10 maps.

So how many people got banned from the IRC last night? And for how long?

>>1823173
Ooh, what happened in the IRC?

>>1822993
>it's here
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SnhhbgX8Sq4
reposting for new thread

>>1823113
Community Is Falling 3
Cyberdreams
Herian 2
Daedalus
NeoDoom Gold Edition

>>1823183
FPS genocide, best day of my life

>>1823096
Wad this is from? I love Hell architecture

>>1823096
old but gold

>>1823206
It's a screenshot from Doom world's "post a Doom picture" thread. I don't think it's been released yet.

>>1823207
>old
Not that old, actually. I think Term made it about a month or two ago.

>>1823207
Is Zandro really that infested with furries?

>>1823217
yes, like zdaemon is filled with beaners.

>>1823217
As a representative of Zandronum's furry fandom, I would have to say YES.

>>1823215
That Image is like 3 years old bro

>>1823217
Unfortunately.

>>1823224
No it isn't. Term made this to replace the three-tear old one that was artistic /shit/.

>>1823214
MORE INFO: It's going to be in Going Down's episode 3.

>>1823224

Nope.

http://terminusest13.tumblr.com/post/84812492116/welcome-to-the-world-of-doom-source-ports-ill

>>1823221
>>1823228
We're not THAT bad, are we?

>>1823237
>Roleplaying chat binds
>[FUR] in the name or some other variation, basically "HEY EVERYONE LOOK AT ME I'M A FURRY, I'M DIFFERENT"
>Can start uncomfortable discussions in chat

>>1823164
>you guys
We're not all of one mind.

/v/ please leave

>>1823108
i posted last night how I was finally going through Plutonia with DOOMRL bundle.
All the revenants that get boosted up get annoying too.
Theres a level filled with Archviles btw!
Great level design though

>>1823243
True. But it seemed like most people here disliked it.

>>1823237
It's okay to like furry porn, but when you start labelling yourself as xX-I-FAP-TO-ANIMALS-THE-ZEBRA-WOLF-HYBRID-Xx and typefucking, there's something wrong with you

>>1823164
>>1823247

I think it's pretty good, as far as metal goes.
But, like everything else, it's not a replacement for the original. I think it works more as a supplement, depending on the levelset/mood.

>>1823242
So yeah, we can be that bad.

>>1823249
Is "Shifty Hyena" acceptable?

>>1823252
Absolutely not

>>1823256
Shifty isn't even a name! It's an adjective!

>>1823259
That's why it's so fucking bad
literally nothing beyond I PRETEND TO BE A SMELLY AFRICAN SCAVENGER, PLEASE PM IF YOU WANT TO FUCK

Has anyone actually bothered making levels for Metroid Dreadnought?

>>1823265
There was closetmapguy, but he was forced to format his hard drive and lost the data, unfortunately.

>>1823265
One guy did, but his hard drive became an hero

>>1823264
I have no want to fuck anything. I want to play Doom and have fun. Keeping my fetish out of this video game beyond a silly name is something that I realize.

>>1823269
Well there's still old versions floating about somewhere, right?

Sorry mods. I'll shut up.

>>1823217
>>1823220
>>1823221
>>1823228
>>1823237
>>1823242
>>1823245
>>1823252
>>1823256
>>1823259
>>1823264
>>1823272

wtf is up with these deletions?

>>1823284
Mods monitor this thread 24/7 apparently.

>>1823284
Arguments that have fuck all to do with Doom is my guess.

>>1823287
They need a hand on deck at all times to make sure the Imp-tan drawings don't go too far.

>>1823096
>that pic
How can you choose cold metal over the splendor of the flesh?

>>1823289
>They need a hand on deck at all times

Considering the shitposting we go under at times?
Yes, yes we do.

Dynamic lights don't work in GZDoom. The file lights.pk3 is there, so what's the problem?

>>1823313
You have to add it to autoloads yourself. Yes, it's fucking stupid.

>>1823249
>It's okay to like furry porn

Anon...seek help

>>1823310
Can we just use ship terms to refer to the /vr/ mods now? Confusing people is always fun.
We could call them sailors.

>>1823265

From what I gather, about a dozen people signed on to do levels.
Whether or not they'll actually deliver, though, is another question.

rip closetmapguy

>>1823319
powder monkeys gets my vote

>>1823319
Dude... Swabbies.

Don't be stupid.

>>1823324
4 legs good 2 legs better

>>1823324
Sorry anon, but I'm giving another vote to "Powder Monkeys"

Sailors: 0
Powder Monkeys: 2
Swabbies: 1

>>1823314
Thanks, I got them to work now.

do I have to finish episode 4 on UV
i just wanna call it a day

>>1823337
Yes you do

>>1823332
Shit I was wrong. It works for vanilla but not the PSX Doom TC like I was trying to do. I added the path to the global.autoload thing in the PSX .ini, added PULLIN "lights.pk3" to the .cfg, but nothing seems to work. Can anyone help?

>>1823287
i don't think they sit here refreshing the thread 24/7, but they definitely act when the reports start flooding in. everything i report gets dealt with very quickly, anyway.

Did that anon ever come back? The one who said he rand Nuts and Fractal doom? Or was it all a ruse?

Are there any other map(set)s that complement Metroid Dreadnought? I've already done Valhalla, Putrefier, Sapphire and that one map from here that was being made with Metroid specifically in mind.

>>1823363
>>1823183

>>1823363
he did, at the end of last thread. >>1823183

>>1823363
It's here
>>1823183

>>1823183
>that ending
How agitating

I think I'm way overdoing it for a first level ever, but eh, I want to try some things out in vanilla Doom 2 format first.

I have a small barracks section, and this is what I improvised as showers. Of course, these wall textures are just place holders for now.

>>1823183
oh sweet fucking jesus i thought he was a ruseman for a second.

>>1823379
I think that looks pretty good. My first level ever was garbage, I was trying to make a skyscraper but ended up creating a series of humongous empty rooms.

>>1823096
Too rare for you?

>>1823329
>powder monkeys
>The function was fulfilled by boy seamen 12 to 14 years of age. Powder monkeys were usually boys or young teens selected for the job for their speed and height
>young manlets who delete shit asap
sounds about right

What level wads go along nicely with DoomRL Arsenal and Monsters?

>>1823379
Not bad so far. Just from what I've seen:
-Make sure you select that texture above the doorway and check "upper unpegged" so it'll automatically align
-Make sure you align the textures in the doorway too

>>1823456
Right now im doing Plutonia with it, but theres not as many powerups as id like.
Ive had a lot of fun with Oblige maps (just gotta tinker it to your liking)
I havent done it yet but I feel like KneeDeepIntheZDoom would be fun to run through

>>1823456
I think those wads that put all of Ultimate Doom (Doom:ONE) and Doom 2 (Memorial) into one level each could work.

>>1823421
>there will never be a cooking-themed WAD

>>1823478
>what was 32in24-13

>>1823348
Try copying ALL of the PSX TC stuff to the root gzDoom folder, add "PULLIN "lights.PK3" " to PSXDOOM.CFG, then add "ECHO PULLIN "PCDFCLT.PK3">>PSXDOOM.CFG" to PSXDOOM.BAT. Then run PSXDOOM.BAT.

>>1823504
Fuck.
>"ECHO PULLIN "PCDFCLT.PK3">>PSXDOOM.CFG"

SHOULD BE

>"ECHO PULLIN "lights.PK3">>PSXDOOM.CFG"

Add that to PSXDOOM.BAT. I derped.

To mappers : how is your building process? in what order do you build things? Do you 100% each room room-by-room or do you build a sketch of the general layout WITH gameplay ideas first ?

I'm asking because I'm currently going through a shift of my mapping process.
While I was building this room for Shadow Warrior map, as I wanted to implement interesting shading, I told to myself I did it all wrong again. I mean, I thought I got the ENTIRE building process wrong (and have been for a long time). I built the detailing too early on; and as a result, even though it's not UBER detailed, there is definitly too many sectors in this room to implement strong, more interesting shading.

(In the end, I resorted to SW's "fading" lighting : each 'stall' with a table has its own lightsource, which slowly and constantly fades in/out, but without too strong differences in the value of the shading, and the end result gives a rather warm and cozy atmosphere.)

But even if I like the end result, this got me to completely re-think the way I map. It's something I wanted to do for this map already, but old habits kicked in again (like when I built this restaurant room).
Basically, I used to build pretty much one room after the other, and detail each room to the max; and shading would almost always come at the end of the process, and I often had no idea how gameplay would be while building what I did.

Now, I have started mapping using a new process, doing overall layout of an entire area first alongside gameplay ideas (and I try not to be afraid to test the gameplay idea by implementing the enemies inside a rough sketch of what the final area will be, to test gameplay before detailing/shading or even texturing) ; then implement the light sources and the kind of shading I want, and finally detailing at the very last.

I believe this kind of mapping is more 'pro' and will make for better maps. Or at least, maps that feel more like the original games, which is what I'm aiming for.

>>1823509
Did it exactly as you said, still doesn't work. I really have no idea how it wouldn't.

>>1823521
Layout -> Structure -> Architecture -> Gameplay -> Detail.

Layout and structure are absolutely needed for good architecture, which directly influences the gameplay and how your map looks. If your layout is shit, your map almost always will be shit. Master layouts.

In mobility based games like Doom or Build Engine Games the layout will always be key.

Also master making a map and then completely deleting that map because it's crap.

>>1822187
I was this guy. I'm doing HMP instead of UV due to me being not gud

i broke purist mode

>>1823329
My vote goes to Powder Monkeys tenfold.

capatcha: pagaoodu Views

>>1823463
>Make sure you select that texture above the doorway and check "upper unpegged" so it'll automatically align

Didn't know that. Thanks!

>>1823389
Thank you!

I also added a little bathroom, like the shower room, it's the rough basic. I tend to create the most important geometry first, and leave the detailing work (including textures) for last, after I decided on the basic way through the map, optional areas, and placed the essential items and puzzles.

How do you get to the secret level in Speed of Doom?

>>1823536
Could you differentiate layout, structure, and architecture a bit more?

>>1823536
I'm not asking for advice and I've been past the "delete your map because it's shit" for a long time now.

I'm asking how you is your mapping process. There is not one process, and different process can lead to different things all interesting for different reasons.

>>1823545
Layout the level in 2d only, looking at it top down on the automap. Does it connect together? Does it flow? Does it actually feel conducive to Doom's strengths.

Structure is adding 3d to the layout, the height variation and vertical nature of the map.

Architecture is the macro detail, the stuff that's not directly used by the player but still influences the game play and visuals. Ledges that the player can't get to but you can put monsters on for interesting crossfires and what not.

Gameplay is obvious.

Detail is the micro stuff. Lighting, texture usage, stuff like that. Things that only serve to enhance the map's presentation not the gameplay. It should never impact the gameplay and your map should look decent without it.

>>1823547
That literally is my process. You create a layout and the map comes together from there. Delete and start over is part of the process. If you map yourself into a corner, it's much better to just restart than try and salvage something that's not working.

>>1823537

Sugoi, you are well on your way to becoming a true grorious nihongo gaijin samurai.

>>1823565
NOW TIME TO DO IT IN UV AND DIE!

for honor

>>1823521
I'm primarily a musician, so in a lot of ways I probably approach levels differently than other people. When you're structuring a song, sometimes you just start at the beginning and write through until you get to the end. Other times, you start because you've written the chorus already--there's a cool melody or a couple of lines that you like and that becomes the big part of the song that people are gonna be into.

Doom levels are the same way. Sometimes you can start off with the beginning building and just build the whole level from there, and gameplay elements come and go as you do it, the way little ideas for the song will come along as you do it. ("There's this cool drum part in the second verse," or "There's this really neat sector trick in the red key room.") Other times, I start building it off from the big "attraction room" which probably has some gameplay ideas set up in it. Other times I sit down with a theme in mind and already know how the level's going to develop.

Sometimes I detail a room immediately after I build it, because I know what's going there. Other times, I build the layout of the room and populate it with some simple stuff, because this room is just sort of there inbetween other rooms, and I'll light it and detail it later on.

>>1823570

KEN-SAMA, NO
YOU LEFT US ONCE BEFORE, NOT AGAIN! NEVER AGAIN!

>>1823556
I disagree with this. Don't delete it, but do start over. You might not like it today, or you might be out of ideas, but in a week? A month? A year? Who knows. I've had songs sit around for months or years before being brought back because I had new ideas for them.

Man you guys all map weird. Why would you ever delete a map?

>>1823183
What are you typing in to make revenants spawn continuously like that?

>>1823578
He bound Summon Revenant to a key, then hit that key over and over again

>>1823574
because whenever I try to make a map it ends up shitty as fuck

>>1823537
>psshhh... nothin personell kid

>>1823337
Nope

>>1823367
His hard drive asplode.

>>1823587
/r/ing terminus to include this somewhere in the mod
somewhere

holy fuck oblige makes some awesome fucking maps.

>>1823539
Are you just getting into mapping? You're doing a really clean job. Try some new wall textures for different rooms, and try to avoid using that STARTAN texture for the player start room. Put some tech lights in corners here and there, etc.

>>1823579
I just look at an example on the wiki, looks like i'm too stupid to understand it.

>>1823608
bind * summon revenant

>>1823565
Ken-sama ;_;7

>>1823601
Yes. And don't worry, those textures are just placeholders for now.

Spooky Aliens: Isolation hallway mapper here with some more shit I never finished

>>1823543
it needs an archvile jump iirc

>>1823624
Wait, are you literally a mapper for Alien: Isolation?

Cool. Is the game actually any good?

Release that map by the way, I don't care if it's unfinished, it looks badass

>>1823613
Thanks, don't know why i didn't understand it on there.

>>1823584
That's serviceable.

>>1823269
>>1823271
Do we know he formatted it? There might be a chance he could save the data.

>>1823636
see >>1821689

>>1823636
Can't he just...work on what he released?

>>1823635
Is it? Looks like trash whenever I load it up

plus i goofed abd designed it with CTF in mind and no one plays that

>>1823367
Try Deus Vult II and Hell Ground.

>>1823636

If the PK3 file is still floating around, can he still use it and continue his map?

>>1823642
Stop mixing clashing textures, pick a room theme and it'll look better. Also do the Romero rules thing where when you change a flat, change the floor/ceiling height.

>>1823642
Well, it obviously needs a little work, but it's a good start.

>>1823650
you should do that along with changing the light level. Big broad slight light changes go a long way to adding depth to your map.

>>1823640
>>1823646

Here.
https://www.dropbox.com/s/8hrokghy1ppijw0/MetroidMap-v1.3d.wad

>>1823653
Honestly I'm just thinking of scrapping it. I was doing a loose remake of a CTF map from The Conduit but it's way beyond my beginner's skills.

I'm thinking of doing a Boxing ring for duel instead, is it possible to have monsters that ignore players for an audience?

>>1823646
i think he lost a lot of unpublished work and probably doesn't feel like redoing it all though

So for those who've been able to play DemonSteele already...

...what do you think of the changes to the Revenants?

Is it worth trying to learn making doom maps at this stage? I mean sure the game still has an active mod scene but are people willing to try something a newcomer has made, as it may potentially be fucking bad

>>1823665
you're an asshole.

>>1823671
If it looks good and you post it here, I'm sure people will play it. If we cared a lot about reputation, we wouldn't be on this site.

>>1823565
>>1823572
>>1823537
Part 1 of 2

not purist mode

>>1823671
Here are your doom mapping scenes:

The Doomworld Hugbox:
They'll accept anything and they churn out a bunch of projects that are quickly forgotten within a year or so. A good place to go if you want to make maps, not a good place to go if you want to learn to be a good mapper.

Zdoom:
Like the Doomworld hugbox except far more creative freedom. Map design is usually terrible but lots of interesting gameplay projects.

The Doom Snob Scene:
Basically the BTSX people. Rampant elitism and dickery but I've seen them occasionally prop up new mappers.

>>1823680
Shit forgot the file like a faggot.

>>1823671
>are people willing to try something a newcomer has made

GMOTA is someone's second mod and it's pretty awesome.
We got a ton of new mappers for the /vr/ 200-minutes megawad.

Make some progress, post it here, be accepting of criticism, get some people willing to look at things objectively and tell you what's working/what's not working.

>>1823671
>>1823679
i'm pretty sure 200minvr had a fair few "My First Map"s in it and we played them all, several times in some cases

>>1823671
People try shit by new people all the time. Deus Vult II, The Eye, Some of the BTSX maps, Pirate Doom. All those are by first time mappers

>>1823663
>loose remake of a CTF map from The Conduit
You have no clue how expanded that made my dong.

>>1823693
>Deus Vult II
>II
The first one yes, unless Huy Pham traveled back in time after he made the 2nd one

>>1823696
Streets was the shit yo it's also the only map i remember from that game

Reminder that Deus Vult is a modified 1SQUARES.WAD

>>1823703
>Streets
Yep ya lost me.

>>1823632
Lol nah, I made a hallway based off of a screenshot my friend sent me once and he decided to leak the efforts to an older Doom thread.

If I can't find anything productive to do with this map by the end of the day, I'll post a DropBox link

Anyone know good megawads with short levels like Scythe?

>>1823207
>somewhere, Edward850 is being analanguished that this image exists

>>1823710
It was that 4v4 map at the ruined intersection? Mine would be the same idea, but bigger to accommodate the faster movement speed and also in hell.

>>1823671
>it may potentially be fucking bad
With that kind of attitude it probably will be. I mean, if you're doing a "tell me why I suck, I want to improve" submission then sure that's fine. But if you really want to make something decent (not great necessarily, but decent) you should have enough experience playing maps at least to know what you think you have to offer. My first map was fairly vanilla but I worked hard to make it better than "My First Map.wad" efforts.

All that said, map preferences can be very personal. If you make Slaughterfest 7452 I won't give it a second glance, but if you make something simpler that happens to scratch my particular itch, there's no reason why a first-time mapper can't make something fun. There's a lot of crap out there, strive to be better than it.

>>1823723
>With that kind of attitude it probably will be
I don't have an attitude I'm just generalizing. I've been playing Doom for two decades now so i have a pretty decent idea how good maps work but I've never actually bothered trying myself because Im not patient when it comes to learning new things. I've made some great maps for HoMM3 but level editor for that game was very simple

>>1823685
>>1823680
Part 2 of 2

didn't forget the file this time

>>1823207
What's that Marble Madness-looking picture from? The ZDaemon, User Content one.

>>1823721
No I mean it's not a good maaaaaaap.

>>1823729
>Leg comes off
>Slicing cybernetic legs off
holy fuck

>>1823207
>Odamex

Aw. I feel sorry for them.

>>1823739
Oh okay :(

>>1823624
>he ruined our blood fountain!
>it looks fine to me
> IT USED TO BE WATER!

>>1823739
you can kick them around too.

>>1823728
My advice for starting:

1) Make (and keep) a shitty scratchpad map, never intended for release. Basically just to fuck around with sectors and textures, experiment with effects and triggers. Spend a little time hooking up a few rooms and get some doors and switches working.

2) For your first real map, don't try to make something huge and epic or super high-concept. Maybe come up with an idea you think would be neat and try to make a smallish map that executes it really well. By keeping it small you can submit it for feedback and iterate; even if you change big chunks of it, it won't ruin anything. What will also happen is that as you go along, your first rooms will beg to be redone as your mapping improves. Keeping it small means you can always do another pass.

Personally, I find that sketching layouts on paper helps a lot.

>>1823716
why does your doomgai have radiation poisoning

>>1823750
>1) Make (and keep) a shitty scratchpad map, never intended for release. Basically just to fuck around with sectors and textures, experiment with effects and triggers. Spend a little time hooking up a few rooms and get some doors and switches working.

This is good advice. I like to keep a map off to the side where I can make random things I thought might look good but don't have a real map for. It's good practice, even if it'll never be seen by anyone else.

>>1823665
Tested Folded 1000 Times in E1 of Vanilla Doom in UV.

>Gun is almost useless.
>Bullet Slashing is the best mechanic ever.
>DMC bar never went up for some reason.
>The Chainsaw/Hammer is the destroyer of gods when it charges to 100, but when you change secondary weapons it stays stuck on 0.
>Rocker Launcher kills everything too easily.
>Bar under the hp spheres supposedly does something, but I don't know how to use it.
>Monster infighting between the same class of monsters make some rooms trivial.
>Engrish messages feel touhou-ish and I loved them. It definitely needs the "pssh... nothing personell kid" as a leaving taunt message.
>The new UNF is moe as fuck.

It needs more balancing, but it's fun enough. Maybe I'm playing it wrong. I still need to test it on E2, E3, E4, Doom 2 and maybe some other wads.
Overall, its good, but not that good. 9/10 - IGN

>>1823717
Claustrophobia is good.

>>1823624
this is the graveyard in the background

>>1823717

Dmonfear, but watch as how some people argue about how it is just Scythe with no slaughtermaps and therefore is shit

>>1823760

Thanks for the input.

>Bar under the hp spheres supposedly does something, but I don't know how to use it.

Double tap a direction and slash.
I dunno what to do with back-back-slash yet so it's a shitty block.

>>1823773
I'm still wondering about the DMC bar and the hammer. Is that intended behavior? Do I need a berserker pack or something to make the DMC bar go up?
Also, have you considered adding UT-style dodges, as in quick dashes with some invincibility when you tap a direction?

>>1823750
Thanks for the advice. One question though. Do people make their own music for some wads because its always something i havent heard before

>>1823778

The bar goes up depending on how many dudes you slash in a row, so maps with sparse enemy placement (like the original Doom 1 maps), you probably won't ever get it to go up. For larger maps with lots of dudes like later Scythe levels, you'll get it up pretty easily.
The hammer's ammo freezing is...definitely not intended, so thanks for letting me know. I'm not entirely sure what's causing it, though. I'm gonna have to see if I can fiddle with that.

And yes, I've definitely considered it--it's actually already in! Push the Run button and a direction and you'll throw yourself that way, passing harmlessly through enemy shots.

http://vocaroo.com/i/s0heDupS2DT1

>>1823791
>"Whoops!"
mfw

>>1823717
TVR
Rebirth
200minvr

>>1823793

too close to home

see anything wrong with this pciture?

>>1823809

Well, you're using Windows 8 for starters...

>>1823809

Oh hey you found an Ettin.

>>1823793
Damn.

>>1823717
D2TWID's levels are Doom 2-ish in length, which I consider pretty short, but it's a mixed bag and a bit of a polarizing wad (some people really don't like Doom 2).

>>1823784
Some people do make their own music, but a lot of the custom music you hear is MIDI versions of songs found elsewhere on the internet. Sometimes they're borrowed from Duke, ROTT, or similar games.

>>1823812
Other than my shit choice of OS, do you see anything else wrong with that picture?

protip: filename

>>1823793

>"After months of shutting out the paper fights and answering machine messages and assorted screams, he finally gave way. Carmack stood up and began to unplug his machine. Everyone else stopped what he was doing and watched. “I think I’m going to get more done doing this by myself in my apartment,” Carmack said. He picked up his stealth black NeXT machine and walked out the door. He wouldn’t return for weeks."

>>1823819
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KyFjgnJYETQ&list=UUHEVVWLuwV0oYBL03mlwuBw

>>1823819

Hmmm...... Windows 8, and....

Windows 3.1+4.9.

>>1823818
>Doom 2-ish in length, which I consider pretty short

Doom 2 levels are only short if you ignore everything not required for completion. Thats not really the point of non-linear levels and sometimes you dont even know what the right way is

>>1823826
I'm really getting tired of people saying Windows 8 is bad.
I've liked it more than 7 actually.

>>1823835
Loonix master race reporting in.
Why wont you support free software? Free as in free beer.
As far as I know, ZDoom still uses some proprietary crap, so does Zandronum.

>>1823287
I'm gonna guess at least one of the janitors on /vr/ likes Doom, which means he has good taste.

Anyway, anyone have any good recommendations for E1 or E2 replacements? Something with a bit of a dark or murky atmosphere? A bit outer space and lonely feeling?

Double Impact made me feel like I really was alone on a dark installation out on a dark moon in space, and that it was Me Vs. Them, a lot like the original E2. The dark starry sky was good at conveying this.

>>1823834
I still they're pretty short. This goes for almost all IWAD levels. I mean, it's relative of course, but compared to most wads? Yeah I'd say so.

Another way to put it is, Doom 2's maps are short enough that I didn't mind playing through all of them without any mid-level saves. Restarting the entire map was slap on the wrist but not unbearable. If I can do that, I consider the map fairly short. Even if my skills were a lot better, I wouldn't dream of doing that with most of, say, Alien Vendetta's maps simply because of the time investment.

>>1823809
>>1823819

Will fix, thank you.

>>1823634

>big boned

Would you accept $100 to receive five full-force, berserk-powered Doomguy punches to the face?

>>1823903
$100 is barely enough to cover a funeral, anon.

>>1823903
You'd be dead after the first one.

>>1823773
>I dunno what to do with back-back-slash yet so it's a shitty block.

A high-jumping slash that hits everything on the vertical plane above/in front of you? Could also restore player control at the peak of the jump and let it double as a handy rocket jump sort of thing.

>>1823904
>>1823908
Okay, but would you do it?

>>1823910
The answer is obviously going to be no.

Even if you did survive somehow, $100 isn't going to fix you back up.

Doomguy makes demons explode with dinky Berserk punches to the chest anon.

>>1823773
Do what DMC does and turn it into an upward slash of some sort.

Okay so trying to set up a GZDoom LAN game for me and a friend, and nothing works.

Command line -host prompts? Don't work. Computer refuses to find gzdoom.exe

GZDoom multiplayer launcher? Doesn't work, his computer never connects to mine when I'm hosting and mine never connects to his.

Is there just some step I'm missing here in my relative newness to Doom or am I just cursed to never play co-op Doom 2?

>>1823917
So? I don't see the problem.

>>1823921
Cyberdemon don't you have something to shoot rockets at

>>1823920
>GZDoom
>Netplay

I'm so sorry, anon.
GZDoom netcode is unbelievably horrible and very difficult to actually set up.
You may be better off with just setting up a Zandro LAN server.

>>1823927
>netplay
He said it's a LAN game. GZDoom's multiplayer only sucks when the internet is involved. Just sounds to me like he can't into command line.

>>1823920
You'll go mad. Use Zandronum if possible.

>>1823921
Dead dudes can't spend money
Also, demons' tight muscles are likely much stronger than the scrawny build of some anon accepting 100$, just imagine what dimension the scattered particles of your unidentifiable mass will be blasted into

>>1823920
You're running the command line in your GZDoom directory, right?

I wish i knew what i was doing

>>1823974
I like it.
Seems simple enough to fight against purely with circlestrafing but then the Archvile comes out.

http://youtu.be/a3ZlpTp_dJA?t=39s
Most agitated cartoon ever, especially the highlighted moment which looks totally like the Doom cover art.

>>1823183
He actually did it.

>>1823940
Problem is I have no idea how to work Zandronum

>>1823974
>making a webm with that much leftover space
>it looks that ugly
Actual gameplay looks fine

>>1823984

>DSBOSPIT

heh

>>1821951
Does any of you guys happen to know how to compile the files in the acs folder in linux?

>>1823974
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TbamUB_1xjU

>>1823984
that was 80's as fuck

>going through DemonSteele folders
>checking out placeholder player sprites
>find this

>>1824015
>filename
:^)

>>1823246
That archvile maze is boring as hell. It's an endless mess of not knowing where to go and ducking around corners.
I beat UV Plutonia a while ago using savegames and I'm intending to do another playthrough properly.

>>1823989
Doomseeker will help you make a server. You don't have to publish it online and it works just fine over LAN.

>>1823903
How about $100 for each non-berserk punch to the face. How many would you choose to take?

How about $50 for each non-berserk punch to the face. How many would you choose to take?

>>1823903
How about $50 for each non-berserk punch to the face. How many would you choose to take?

>>1824120
Doomguy still punches harder than a bullet.

Anon it's just not going to work out.

>>1824124
His punch can do as little as 2 damage. Assuming you're as tough as the average zombieman you could potentially take quite a few. Won't you play the lottery of death?

>>1824131
>Won't you play the lottery of death?
For 100 fucking dollars?

I can make more money sucking off strangers and suffer a significantly lower risk of death or injury.

>>1824120
>>1824131
Doomguy's running punch can still kill a zombieman. Even if it's not fatal, it's to the face, which will likely remove what little beauty and/or sense I have.

I wish Smooth Doom had an option for dark gloves, like the perkristian animations 2 wad. I think they look nicer, after playing UAC Ultra is hard to go back.

>>1824007
halp plox

>>1824131
Even if you look at it like that a bullet is 5-15 and Doomguy can punch with 2-20.

Statistically you're going to get hit harder than a bullet even if it's a weak.. bullet.

>>1824173
Compile the ACC source code. There, you compiled the compiler to compile ACS.

UD64 guy here. Here's a video demo of E3M5
https://www.sendspace.com/file/agiehz

>>1824007
>>1824173

They're already compiled for you, anon.
That's what the .o is.

>>1824139
Could you explain why death or injury is a bad thing?

>>1824195
>Could you explain why death or injury is a bad thing?

>>1824195

just stop now

>>1824195

>>1824204

>look dapper in suit

You sure do until you begin looking like a fleshy agitated skeleton.

>>1824209
Add "getting turned into a rocket-shooting skeleton when hell invades" to the benefits list, then.

>>1824204

Are there any disadvantages? I'm can't seem to think of any atm.

>>1824232
You start attracting maggots.

>>1824232

Can't fap.

>>1824190

Why isn't everyone talking about fucking this? This is so goddamn awesome

Anybody here have Doom Classic Complete for PSN? Does it have online coop?

>>1824248
Not much info has been released. Post the webms from last night if you want to spark convo.

>>1824190
Dam, Iv seen your earlier post there really nice! All maps and weapons, Did you do all of it?

>>1824190
>Demo.mp4
Aw shit I thought it was a bonafide playable demo.

>>1824190
I really like how much more Cathedral the UD64 version is.

>>1824279
The base resources were done by a guy called Footman and the smooth weapon anims were done by Dreadflame and others. The maps and a lot of custom shit were done by me.

>>1824290
Also is the punch supposed to be hitting multiple times like that?

>>1824037
I found the level quite interesting personally especially the bunny music playing over the top of it

How do stims and shields work in DoomRPG? I get random shield parts every now and then, but there are a shit ton of different pieces without telling me what they do.

And do I just mix random things together in a stim?

>>1824343
Basically, you need to equip a shield body, a battery, and a capacitor. Then you can press the activate shield key (It's in the DRPG keybinds) and it'll turn on. Everytime you equip a shield bit, it shows what effect it has on your overall shield stats, it's pretty awesome.

And yeah, stick things in stim, activate stim, go crazy.

Is there any way to get PRBoom+ to not look washed out as hell or a way to turn off texture filtering in GLBoom+?

>>1824362
Obviously different bodies do different things, but how am I supposed to know what the difference is when in the shop?

>>1824190
This vid is just a demonstration of the revised Unmaker.
https://www.sendspace.com/file/s9mouw

>>1824368

open up the config file and set gamma to 0

now

Options > General > Texture Options (press right arrow key a bunch of times) > Texture Filter = None

and just turn anything you don't like off

oh and don't forget to try "Fog Based" in the Sector Light Mode option, arguably looks best compared to GZDoom

>>1824375
There isn't really a way to tell anything in the shop, unfortunately.

Only your experience with them, and the price of them will aid you here.

>>1823302
Nah. Nah to both of you.

>>1824265
>Does it have online coop?

Dunno about PSN Doom but XBLA did but just like with every game on consoles the multiplayer died a month after it came out because it's not CoD.

>>1821610
>>1821627
Just psyching myself up for that probably-month-long code fest. Two versions. With two sets of addons each. Combing through the code from the ground up, all over again. I'm actually afraid, but I'm sure I'm going to fucking love it when it begins. I hope.

>>1823992
And that is one part of I don't know what I'm doing.

AND THIS IS A NEW PART OF I DONT KNOW WHAT IM DOING

>>1824442
Also, looking back on it all, what in the holy hell was I possessed by?

>>1824445
You need to do something about your framerate.

I'm scare

So since that one room at a time thing didn't pan out, I took that room and I'm slowly making it into a map.
Here's a not-techbase part.

So I saw some Project MSX videos, I think it looks pretty good. Is it pretty good? On a scale from bogus to rad, what does it score?

>>1824445
Wait, are the little explosions supposed to be him losing rings?

>>1824456
Oh wow, Neighborhood from Hell looks really good with Lasting Light. Kind of fits, too.

>>1824460
A solid "Hype shit"

>>1824460
It's really fucking good in my opinion.

>>1824464
Oh look a spook.

>>1824476

PANIC.jpg

>>1824476
I've had nightmares like this.

>>1824464
It really does.

There needs to be more dark outdoorsy maps.

>>1824395
The gamma worked in PRBoom+. But in GLBoom+, the texture filter options only have point, linear, and rounded. And none of them seem to change anything.

>>1823665
>>1823760
What, is that some beta wad or pk3?
It sounds like something relevant to my interests, can I have a link?

>>1824491
Use Point. Also, disable sprite edge rounding.

>>1824491
Point is what you want.
Make sure you change it for EVERYTHING.

>>1824501
>>1824502
Ok I found it. I didn't realize there was another page with filter options in GLBoom+. Thanks.

How does one make webms? I'd be down for making a webm of my hardmode 1024 Lasting Light run.

>>1824493
32spoopy40me

>>1824513
>Look in mirror
>see this shit.

>>1824496
https://github.com/TerminusEst13/Folded1000Times

>>1824496
>beta
It's not even alpha, honestly. This is so early on in development it's not even funny.

But if you'd like to check it out, sure, here's the github:
https://github.com/TerminusEst13/Folded1000Times

>>1824195

Anon not everyone here is a magically animated skeleton who has a personal pissed off martian to revive them at a moments notice.

What the fuck would you hellspawn even DO with a hundred bucks?

>>1824520
>>1824523
Thanks gentleboys.

Got bored
Made this

www.youtube.com/watch?v=ISypiNvrg6E

>>1824513
https://github.com/Wsheerio/webmConverter
https://github.com/WebMBro/WebMConverter
pick one

>>1824425
i'll miss you max payne 3 multiplayer

>>1824529
I don't know about a hundred, but if I had a million dollars, I'd buy you a monkey. Haven't you always wanted a monkey?

>>1824535
I wish there was a WebM converter that would automatically calculate which resolution and bitrate would be the best to pick depending on size limit and length.

>>1823903
Let's think of it this way anon, death by helium tank or being put down by the man himself.
Not a hard decision.

Personally, I would want to have a few beers with him first, maybe try firing the DB at the trashcan a few times before my last moments.

>>1824535
Thanks! Actually, I'll make a whole video. Should be up at some point.

>>1824538

Your promises of monkeys won't sway me. Demon. I'd sooner be alive than a skeleton with a monkey.

...a skeleton monkey however... That's also a Butler, and talks. Well then sign me up for the skeletons

>>1824543
The first one I linked will try to lower the quality if it's going to end up too big.
As for the size I usually end up just setting it to 320x240 or the equivalent 16:9 one.

Why this sprite is used as Doom 3 shotgun? it looks nothing like it.

>>1824531

>>1824493
I love how spooky that is.

>>1824531
lel

Does anyone know who did the voice of doomguy in Brutal Doom? I think it *might* be Mark, but I dunno.

>>1824543
In my experience resolution makes a very minimal difference, like 0.01MB increase from 640x360 to 1280x720. Framerate and bitrate are the things that matter the most.

>>1824561
If it was Mark it'd probably sound a little more like this
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4tPeXqIjupk

>>1824561
HAH HAH

FUCK YOURSELF

>>1824561
He calls himself Chinese Tony Danza.

>>1824463
naw, it's actually a ring tossing attack of a sort.
they are still placeholders ill probably take some sanic game rings for em and make it also spawn em on hurt for maximun explosive rings spam

I don't feel like paying for the full version of fraps. What's an acceptable screen recording program.

>>1824596
dxtory

i'm sure someone here has a license you can use

>>1824596
>The Pirate Bay
>filter by Seeds
>first result

is it that hard?

>>1824596
>paying

>>1824570
I laughed way, way harder than socially acceptable.

>>1824572

Yeah I just found his tindeck account. I found original recordings of the quotes and this funny variation:

http://tindeck.com/listen/wknb

>>1824570

So the best weapon you have at this point is a pistol, or a chainsaw if you've found the (fairly obvious) secret.
Is this too mean?

(the lost soul only spawns on UV (an imp spawns instead on HMP), the torch spectre is a pinky on HMP and not there on HNTR, and on < UV you get a stimpack in this room, instead of four health bonuses)

I'm too faggoty to play Plutonia vanilla.

Does it go well with RPG/RL Arsenal? GMOTA? Or should I just try it with Smooth Doom or something?

>>1824605
It's so fucking normal hahaha

>>1824609
Chainsaw tears through everything up to pinkies pretty easily.
It works kind of good on Lost Souls provided they aren't above eye level too.

>>1824615
I like playing Plutonia and Plutonia style .wads with wwhc-diaz.wad
I feel it kinda fits the feel of the .wad
That said, it might not be your cup of tea.

>>1824615
Play it vanilla before running it with mods.

It's good to have a baseline experience.

It goes good with ProjectMSX with the Badass monsters addon.

>>1824605
>Rip and tear. Rip and tear your guts.
Why is he so calm?

>>1824493

>>1824640
64spoopy80me

>>1824640
what

>>1824626
Yeah I realized that even on UV, the chainsaw is making what should be ammo-tight encounters into breezes. I replaced it with a clip box.

After testing it, without the clipbox you'll likely come out with almost no ammo. With it, you'll have around 50 bullets left.

I'll run it a few more times.

Lasting Light guy here. The 1024 run was the most boring shit ever. Going to do Neighborhood from hell instead. What kind of thing do you guys want to see? Just a run with no commentary or editing?

>>1824640
I thought it was just kind of stumbling towards the player at first
Like the collective heads were saying
>"A little left..."
>"No no! Forward! He's that way!"
>"Carefully, steady..."

>>1824654
It's from a wad called Beyond Reality. It's a 17 level map wad and it's pretty damn good.

>>1824661
Remember that for webms on 4chan it can be a max of 3MB, 1:20, and no sound.
https://wiki.installgentoo.com/index.php?title=WebM

>>1824670
I was gonna make a whole video instead so I could get the background noises and such.

>>1824670
>1:20
I mean 120 seconds. My bad.

>>1824658
Give a shotgun with 8 shells instead.

>>1824265
So I bought this for £6.50. I reckon it's a steal. Ultimate Doom, Doom II, Master Levels, Another Doom II thingie, Plutonia and TNT all in one package.

I tried to get my silly friend to buy it but he wouldn't, oh well.

It runs great (as it damn well should, of course) and playing it on console actually feels really great. It really has the classic look of Doom about it, rather than the OpenGL look GZDoom has. Also playing it with dual analog feels closer to how it felt the first time I played Doom back in the KB only days. It's obviously better than that but not as good as KBM (and you can't adjust the look sensitivity), so it controls between original Doom KB only and Doom with WASD+Mouse. It makes it slightly more challenging as Doom with KBM is way too fucking easy on UV. You get vibration when you shoot, too, and playing this badboy in bed is great.

Yeah, pretty nice.

>>1824674
When you grab the shotgun, you'll have 12 shells.
This time I got out with 36 bullets and 5 shells. So ammo is tight, but not too tight.

(it'll get harder)

>>1824678
That's fine too.

I just think the Chainsaw has to be considered for the entire level since it's basically a close range infinite chaingun.

Guns are easier to balance out.

Then again you can make the Chainsaw useless by tossing out Hell Knights.

>>1824596
I found that Open Broadcaster Software has an option set that records the video output on your computer instead of sending it over the internet to Twitch or whatever, and it seems to work admirably well.

Anyone feel like the knowledge of advanced techniques have changed how you feel about Doom?

>>1824704
what advanced techniques do you speak of?

>>1824675
They really need to get some new-ish features into the official ports. There's no reason it can't have Halo-quality multiplayer, i.e. split-screen while online with a persistent party and matchmaking. But, you know, with a decent game behind the menus. I guess no one wants to put the effort in.

>>1824715
You know, shit like straferunning, tapping the chaingun, infighting, the mouse. Stuff like that.

>>1824715
I'm guessing things like BFG mechanics. To me, it's no longer this elusive super weapon that blasts the shit out of things, but a really hacky sort of contraption that gives the illusion of a ginormous energy rocket using player-originated traces that appear after the ball hits something.

>>1824735
So shit you didn't figure out your first playthrough?

>>1824735
>>1824704
>tapping the chaingun, infighting, the mouse
I don't think that's really advanced or anything.
>straferunning
I guess that counts.
>>1824745
>BFG mechanics
And that too.

But the answer to your question is no, it hasn't changed what I think of it at all.
About the BFG though, I think it's some kind of unintended greatness. I would like a weapon with similar-ish mechanics in D44M.

>>1824745
Why even have the ball there at all? It doesn't even do all that much damage. It could just be a huge damaging flash, but I guess that's not dramatic enough. The BFG actually makes me think of an anglerfish.

>>1824735
nigga you call those advanced techniques? jesus christ

The Lasting Light video is uploading. It'll be around at some point.

Where the fuck are Demon Steel's hands and player sprite taken from? I could have sworn that I had seen them in another WAD.

>>1824791
The black katana ones are from Duducrazy's Guns 3.

>>1824791

For now I'm using Sayako Miki's sprites from Doom Radys, that one /a/ mashup wad.
I checked with Doom667Shogun and punio_puni and they said it'd be fine, but I still want to replace them down the line with original sprites.

>>1824814
I'm still at a loss as to what that picture means and as to what the fuck that sprite is.

>>1824821
The sprite is an anime hand that's a weapon.
It barfs on things.

The image is making fun of that.

>>1824828
that doesn't look like a hand to me.

>>1824832
The character has a person that's an anime hand.

It's an anime girl for a hand.
It pukes.

>>1824832
You need to get both your eyes and your hands checked, anon.

>>1824821
>>1824828

It's a take on an ooooold macro about a Japanese bear mascot appearing on TV during a news broadcast about a terrible fire, which became popular in /tg/ because of the appearance of something cute in a clearly disastrous situation.
In Radys, there's a dude who inexplicable has an anime girl on his hand, which can cause a lot of chaos by...well, barfing ghosts on things, yes.

>>1824839
>it's an anime girl for hand that pukes

10/10

>>1824839
It's a anime girl hand puppet, it shoots blood cutters or something like that.
But your explanation was hilarious.

http://youtu.be/LdA1MjzxMyE
The Lasting Light video is done! What do you folks think of it?

anime girl got caught by other anime girls. Cuddles(?) ensue

>>1824949
She has really sensitive arms to ahegao so quickly.

Dem demon girls.

>>1824954

>dose archvile eyes

yes.

>>1824956
>Black Sclera
The bestest.

>>1824940
I don't watch to watch this because it will spoil the game, but I can't play the game because I get spooked. What a paradox.

>>1824940
That's pretty cool if the music is actually game audio. I still dont really "get" horror WADs since to me they're just jumpscares or 'oh shit run from x when it's spotted' and usually too damn big... but the audio cues and design is pretty cool. Carpets are damned ugly, I agree.

>>1824963
Yeah, all of the audio is in-game. If folks don't think it's too retarded, I might do similar text commentary for other wads. An idea.

>>1824949
I'm not sure if I had want to cuddle with the archvile or the Imp more.

>>1824949
This must be how chainguns get put in secrets

>>1824963
Also, the reason the map was so big was because it was a custom map by Mark. Lasting Light can be used with pretty much any map.

>>1824940
So.. If you look at it the thing just sends images at you?

I also really like how the map changes it's tone massively with the darkness and lack of enemies.
Could be a whole Silent Hill at night thing going on with it.

>>1824995

for either 5 times or 10 depending on the difficulty.

Then it kills your ass

>>1823984
Fuck yes, skelly warriors

>>1824965
I enjoyed it.

>>1824662
It's 4 guys trying to sneak into a theater on one ticket

Why does everryone fear the Revenents? I look forward to them, they are fun fights, except the two in cages, the ones that flank that one platform with the Cyberdemon

>>1825062
Nobody fears them.
They are just called Agitating because of the one video.

>>1825062

Heatseeking rockets. They can become very high priority targets if those shitheads are in a hard to reach spot.

>>1825062
They're fucking skeletons. Why shouldn't I fear them?

Tried my hand at a stage theme for GMOTA
Every SNES brawler needs some ruined ancient temples

Used the Super Mario Rpg soundfont, but the music structure is pure Castlevania DX

http://vocaroo.com/i/s0rvUbu95pJI

Stayed up too fucking late for this

>>1825065
Okay ove only had one spot where they were hard to get AND able to hit me constantly, it was a bitch and a half.

>>1825072

>Used the baseline beat and instruments from "battle against an armed boss"

I fucking love you. whoever you are.

>>1825062
fuck revenants, they're the only monster i tell oblige not to spawn.

>>1825072
it's pretty cool, but i'm not sure if it'd fit well...

>>1825094

I'm keeping these tunes for a GMOTA mapset when/if it happens

>>1825072

Dude, this is amazing.
Do you have a channel or a name?

>>1825062
This is from my personal experience.
>Scythe on UV.
>Map 26.
>ENTERING
>FEAR
>The first thing I hear when the map finishes loading is AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
And that's why I hate Revenants.

>>1825062
>except the two in cages, the ones that flank that one platform with the Cyberdemon
on map29? they pretty quickly go down to infighting with the mancubi in my experience

>>1825091
But anon, then you won't get lovely levels like this one.

>>1825105
>that revenant
will she be in H-DOOM?

>>1825108
But anon, them's archviles!

>>1825108
and this is why i keep my plasma reserves high

>>1825113
>AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAm I kawaii, senpai? Uguu~

>>1825125
>KYAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

>>1825114
Alright alright, how's this?

>>1825102
Yes, but i would rather not post it here
I am kind of a private person
Suffice to say i love doing snes music and my channel is full of it

Also a fan of doom and other retro shooters (just recently did an snes remix of winnowing halls)

>>1825128
Nutsjunior.wad

>>1825130

I'll respect that, and I respect your handiwork man. You keep on doing your thing you magnificent bastard.

>>1825130
>I am kind of a private person
>[...]
>(just recently did an snes remix of winnowing halls)
you realise this is 4chan and that is enough information for some ne'er-do-well to dox you.

Back to Saturn X is a shitwad made by uncreative hacks.

>>1825161
Don't try to scare him off, you and I both know nobody gives a shit enough about him unless he's a kitty-mutilating pedo.

>>1825130
>>1825161
In fact I look in #vr and it has already happened. They're gleefuly rifling through your channel literally as I type.

>>1825167
Not that they don't want to respect your privacy.

but it just kind of happened

sorry

>>1825169
>Not that they don't want to respect your privacy.
>not fifteen minutes after and they're already posting about how they're poring through everything

Yeah, sure.

>>1825167
By that he means they're listening to all the music.

Is this not what youtube channels are for

What is, in your opinion, the "iconic" Doom monster? In my opinion, it's the Cacodemon. She's the first thing to pop into my head when I think of Doom monsters.

>>1825176
For me it's the goddamn Cyberdemon and Barons/Hell Knights.
Also, she?

>>1825176
Cacodemon has no gender.

Anyways Cyberdemon.

>>1825176

I'm fond of the Cyberdemon. Fits the stereotypical demon of hell, with the unique twists of Doom.

>>1825176
cyberdemon probably. since i played doom2 first before doom1, and there's one on its titlescreen.

i don't know though, i think of them as a set, i can't point one single one out and say "that, that is doom"

>>1825162
I really liked it. It was long, hard and enjoyable.

>>1825176
Top tier: Cyberdemon, Imp
High tier: Cacodemon, Hell Knight
Mid tier: Hell Baron, Zombieman, Revenant, Lost Soul
Low tier: Shotgunman, Archvile. Pinky Demon, Pain Elemental
Bottom tier: Spectre, Chaingunman, Icon of Sin

That list probably use some work, but I think it's about right as far as "iconic" goes. Maybe. I dunno. Maybe I have no idea.

>>1825184
>>1825186
In Anon's defence, Cacodemon does have a vaginal entrance, or at least what most people would assume is one.

>>1825172
I can play toughguy on the internet who exaggerates everything too, but the truth is that the consensus more or less is to actually try to keep his privacy. (Obviously this is getting as difficult as hiding a rock hard erection in a spandex suit.)

but yes the guys are shuffling through the youtube channel and dying from lacking bloodflow to their brains from the music boners

>>1825176
The cacodemon and/or the cyberdemon.
The former is more vividly memorable thanks to it being so damn colorful, but the cyberdemon is a pretty damn cool monster even today.

>>1825197
Vaginas go in the front anon.

That is very clearly a butt tube made for flying.

>>1825203
Would your cacowaifu let you stick it in her flytube?

>>1825203
It's a cloaca.

I learned that word the other day and now I get to use it!

>>1825208
I don't have a Cacowaifu.

I have a Pain Elemental Waifu.

>>1825209
But cloacas include the pooptube, and cacos clearly have two holes

>>1825195
yeah thats what your mom said