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>>1826348
>implying the original isn't the best

it's horribly broken mess, the lightest characters have the best handling, acceleration and speed.
Middleweights have the lowest speed and acceleration.

It's was a massive drop in difficulty from the SNES game and the series has only gotten worse in that regard.

Most of the tracks are really boring, MK64 has become baby's first nostalgia

>>1826376

Fuck no MarioKart64 was the shit back in the day. So many great memories and nostalgia from this game. Super MarioKart was never as big and popular as 64.

>>1826348
Agreed, though admittedly I haven't owned a Nintendo console since the N64 and haven't played the ones following. I love that game. One of my best friends crashed at my place for a couple of months like two years back and we played MK64 almost every night, 8 tournies back to back (150CC + Extra).

I'll never get bored of that game.

That's not Double Dash

Nah

Mario Kart 64 cannot be the best, because its Rainbow Road was complete shit.

>Nostalgia fags and retro fags that can't just accept that MK8 is the best one
Online, lots of tracks, karts/bikes, and racers to choose, most fun, gorgeous graphics make MK8 the best one. MK doub dash is also pretty good, but come on mang. 8 is really just the most fun I've had with a Mario Kart game

No. Was a lotta fun back in the day, but Double Dash and 8 are so much better.

Mario Kart Wii, played with a Gamecube controller, is better than 64 in my opinion, although 64 will always have a special place in my heart. I just could not get into Double Dash.

MK64 definitely had the best music, though.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lGbbd9WPv7o&list=PL063FBBE00159AAB1&index=21

Admittedly I've only played the SNES, N64 and Wii games. SNES wins by far.

>>1826381
>memories and nostalgia
>big and popular
None of those things make a better game.

>>1826348

That's not Mario Kart DS. It's just not fun anymore without a second screen for a map.

>>1826926
That really was the best one when it came out, but I think every successive Mario Kart has been better than the ones before, excluding Super Circuit and Wii.

>>1826623
So you agree that it's the best but you've only played 2 of the games, maybe even just one.


What the fuck is the point of even commenting? Is this how you analyze things in your life because if so you're completely fucked.

i grew up only with 64 and DD. ive been the original for the first time on an emulator no less and i think it is the best mario kart

>>1826926
MKDS > MK64 > *

>>1826348
>No Koopa Troopa

>>1826376
I miss him. He's always been my favorite Mario character.

>>1826381
64 is a average game that's liked due to nostalgia

SMK is still a great game to this day and offers up some unique challenges

>>1827001

Now play DS on an emu and bask in its glory.

>>1826960
I've played the SNES one and the N64 one. You're a faget.

>>1827084

64 had those graphics and that 'feels' over SMK and this was my generations memory of Mario Kart. Super Mario Kart is for the older generation.

>>1826960

>Retro games discussion board

>Getting mad at someone for discussing the only two retro MK games

Get over yourself, dude.

>>1827275
>>1827487

>Thread title is 'Still the best MK yet'
>Genius responds 'yes it is even though I've only played 25% of the series'
>...
>'You're a faget' & 'none of the others are retro even though that's not at all the point you were making'

Very well then.

>>1826381
>Super MarioKart was never as big and popular as 64

Big statement, considering there was only about a 10% difference in sales.

Mario Kart 64 neutered the sophisticated driving mechanics present in Super Mario Kart. Just look at retro reviews. All of them. Everybody found Mario Kart 64 to be a massive disappointment on release.

>>1826348
That's not how you spell most overrated.

>>1826348
That's not Mario Kart DS.

>>1827665
>>1826926
Yes brother

>>1827487
Don't bother with the spergs m8.

>god tier
AGP2

>demigod tier
DS

>great tier
SNES
8
AGP

>good tier
SC
DD
Wii

>okay tier
64

>meh tier
7

>shit tier
AGPDX

>>1827487
>lobbying for shitty posters

If you haven't played the games then don't give an opinion. It's just empty posting that shits up the board, friend.

>>1827646
Kek. I grew up on both games and so did all my old friends. SNES MK was great but MK64 was much, much more enjoyable. I don't know a single person who'd rather play SNES MK over MK64 and that includes me. Only a literal autist would choose SNES MK over MK64.

>>1827709
It's not a shitpost you retard.

The poster said he agreed but admitted that he hadn't played the other games. It implies that between SNES Mario Kart and the N64 one he prefers the N64 iteration. He's basically admitting that he can't comment on the other games. Apparently you're too stupid to read between the lines.

>>1827715
MK64 lost a lot of its thunder to DKR and CTR. Super Mario Kart on the other hand was unopposed.

>>1827725
>MK64 lost a lot of its thunder to DKR and CTR
ahahahaha
nobody ever played those
fucking nobody

>>1827730
Why don't you stop acting like a retard?

>The Mario Kart with the worst Rainbow Road is the best Mario Kart

Nope.

>>1827717
I said shitty poster meaning one that contributes nothing to the topic. Apparently I have a problem with reading?

I don't look into posts for implications. If I said MM2 was the best MM that would be because I've played them all. You understand how that works or not really?

>>1827750
>implying you've contributed anything worthwhile to the thread
I'm beginning to think you may well be mentally disabled anon.

>>1827750
>implications
Hahaha you dumb fuck. He said it's the best out of what he had played and it's obvious that it's what he meant. It's not written in code you retard. If you're really not able to understand that you are actually fucking retarded.

>>1827779
Since that's a baseless assumption I'm going to assume you understand my reasoning and agree with it. Otherwise you wouldn't have dropped your lobbying so quickly.

I don't want to post on a board full of shit so pls.

>>1827801
I understood just fine. The thread isn't asking which is better between the first and second Mario Karts. To give such an opinion would be worthless in this context then, wouldn't it?

>>1827818
actually it would be perfectly within context seeing as this is /vr/ my autistic friend

>>1827823
So I can only choose between the first 2 MKs to find the best in the series?

>>1826348
Double Dash is the best.

Not retro, but it's true.

>>1827832
you can sperg all night long on /vr/ son

>>1826834
>8
but muh battle mode...

>>1827874
I heard they fucked that up something grand. how silly

>>1827863
You can carry on posting insults instead of refuting my points too because that's typically what happens when people have nothing to say.

>>1827957
hahahahha brb fucking my gf

>>1827707
what is AGP and what is SC?

>>1827996

>>1828025
>AGP
Arcade game

>SC
Super Circuit

>>1827707

Do you emulate the J ones? Your rankings are the same as mine otherwise

DD and Super Circuit are still my favorite. MK64 is probably the one I've played the most, though.

>>1828068

>the J ones

I didn't realize they got released here too

64 gives me the most intense nostalgia even though it's not the best. I remember the last 4 courses always got my dick hard.

>>1826379
Pretty much, not to mention it started their reward players for being shit item system and punish players for being good. Yeah, cause Bowser's fat ass is going to be helped by him getting a blue shell. Sure it was mostly manageable and the sequels made it worse but it was always a bad idea. The worst part is that if you say shit about it people just say its a multilayer game or a party game. Even though it hardly has any multilayer content or options. This shit at Smash.

I liked the first one and SC the best. Diddy Kong Racing and every F-Zero were much better though.

>>1828098
>There are people here who didn't experience Diddy Kong Racing as a child

>>1828112
DKR was better for single player, and I think it was an overall better game than mario kart 64.

MK64 is the best for multiplayer. 4 player multiplayer is a blast in that game, and is really the only reason to play it. My friends and I still break it out all the time.

>>1828112
>Not South Park Rally
What a terrible childhood.

>>1826348
What emulator should I use to play it?

>>1828123
Diddy Kong Racing had more game types for multilayer. It just had less battle stages.

>>1828150
Mupen64
Wii VC

Those both are just fine.

>>1828150
I use Project 64 and it runs great.

>>1828068
I emulated the English versions after playing them in actual arcades.

>Your rankings are the same as mine otherwise
Pic related.

>>1826376

I've tried going back to this recently... holy shit these controls are so weird to me now. I can't drift without sliding off the road half the time. how the fuck did I master this when I was 8?

>>1827832
When you're posting on a board where its against the rules to discuss games that aren't retro, yeah. Go back to /v/ if you don't like it.

>>1827707
Knock 8 and SC down a tier each and this is perfect.

SNES MK is disgusting in 2014. It hasn't aged well.

>>1827745
it really is.

no amount of music and atmosphere is going to override the 4 minutes of a long track with almost no obstacles or hazards

>>1829357
the controls are still fine, the gameplay is fine, the graphics are certainly still readable

>>1829381
You could try doing the shortcut jump at the start to take make things more interesting. Made the multiplayer more interesting for sure. High risk high reward.

>>1829357
>SNES MK is disgusting in 2014.
Only in singleplayer. The mechanics are sound, but FUCK playing against the CPU. That shit rubberbands harder than I remembered, and I even knew that game was on some bullshit when I was 8.

MK8 > DD > 64 > Wii > SMK
MKDS > MK7 > Super Circuit

64 has some of the best courses in the series, though. Definitely one of the best Bowser Castles

>>1829841

This is basically a babby ranking. No thanks.

>>1829849

How so?

>>1829885

see

>>1827707

DS out of the top 3 is laughable if you grew up with the series.

>>1829849
>I don't agree with someones opinion, better deride them.

>>1829926
>oops this isn't reddit better be leaving

>>1829924

I'm ranking them for consoles and handhelds, and haven't played the Grand Prix ones

>>1829932
Calling everything you dislike "Reddit" went out of style like 3 years ago, bro.

>>1829941

Indeed

>>1829945

No. You wouldn't know anyway.

It has glaring flaws like no music during multiplayer, but yeah I agree it is the best pre Wii/360 gen.

>>1828067
Ah man I sinked so much time into Super Circut.

64 had the best battle mode, block Fort all day, what's with shit battle mode in 7&8??!

>>1829423
I think that's more of the game can't really process where everyone is on the track.

it's the same with f-zero, the opposing racers are always behind you so if you mess up you're getting passed.

what exactly is supposed to be god tier about that arcade game? The announcer alone makes it too annoying

>>1828098
>I liked the first one and SC the best. Diddy Kong Racing and every F-Zero were much better though.
I could never get into F-Zero. Granted, I only ever tried the SNES F-Zero but I could never beat any CPU. Do I just suck at the game?

>>1830914
yeah, of course.
What kind of question is that?

MK64 is my favorite, but mainly for nostalgia reasons. It's still a solid entry in the series, though.

But MKDS has the most content, and I sunk dozens of hours into it. I was pretty unstoppable at the game until my R button wore out, and I had to start using L instead.
By the time I had replaced my DS phat with a Lite, all of my friends had moved on to other games.

>>1830914
No, F-Zero games are just stupidly hard compared to most other racing games.

>>1831184
>>1831240
Is there some kind of advice you could give me so I suck less at F-Zero?

>>1831303
There isn't really a lot to it, but I'll do the best I can.

-If you're looking for good controls in the original, you want the Fire Stingray. Any other machine has terrible steering.
-To start a race (Fire Stingray only), always (except for the Death Wind courses) overheat your engines and hold the R button to shift your vehicle's weight at the same time. You'll always get hit from behind by the Blue Falcon and later the Wild Goose if you did it right.
-In relation to the previous point, try to block drivers behind you whenever you can. The game will flash a "CHECK" arrow at the bottom of the screen to show where they're coming from; block them and you'll get a speed boost.
-If you're having trouble making the really tight turns, rapidly tap the gas and use that to go around your turn.
-NEVER skip the pit zone, even if it requires you to go out of your way (Fire Field does this). You will need it to stand up to as many collisions as possible.
-When you go off a Jump Plate, hold down on the controller to get maximum air time and speed boost.

The biggest difficulty factor in all F-Zero games, regardless of release date, is they have a rubberband AI that's even worse than Mario Kart and the only thing you have to level the field is boost power. The above tips aren't perfect, but they'll help you stay in the game.

>>1831327
>rubberband AI that's even worse than Mario Kart and the only thing you have to level the field is boost power.

Well the AI can't outrun the fire stingray, so providing you don't screw up you should be sitting pretty.

>>1831356
No it can't, but on the highest difficulties the other drivers CAN keep up, at least.
>Computer gets 478kph from Golden Fox
>Player is restricted to 438kph
It's like you HAVE to be the Fire Stingray or you just won't win.

>>1831327
Thank you, I'll keep that in mind when I try again.

>>1831365
yeah, I don't think this game was designed with balance in mind.

it's pretty clear that fire stingray is the best vehicle when the only stat worse than the other cars is acceleration and has superior weight, speed, handling and body strength.