/vr/ - Retro Games

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NEWS
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-Doom 4 reveal! Well, kinda. Only those dudes who were actually at Quakecon got to see it firsthand, but here's a basic rundown of what happened there. It might not be terrible! http://pastebin.com/W8P7fdq3

-hobomaster22 is making a mod manager for Doom in the vein of Quake Injector, and has built-in /idgames support! It's pretty neat, give it a look. http://www.doomworld.com/vb/doom-general/69346-doom-frontend-development-beta/

-Here's a music stream that only plays Doom music, 24/7; feel free to listen if you're interested http://liquiddoom.net/doom/radio.html

-Some anons did a 200 min. speedmap WAD and this is the result! http://www.doomworld.com/idgames/?id=17781 COMPLETELY VANILLA, tell us what you think!

-Wanna see John Romero deathmatching in 2014? Do you live in England? He will be present at Revival '14 on August 9, see more details here http://www.doomworld.com/vb/post/1283115; for reference, this happened at GDC http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLXkipPv0b4KMKE7z3WwlYYUCDLACNoYfE..

-Metroid Dreadnought IS OUT! - http://zandronum.com/forum/showthread.php?tid=4561&pid=61847#pid61847

-The Space Pirate got an update! Check the latest ver. here! https://drive.google.com/file/d/0BxbbtKR5bll_anFPaVhUQVZqcnM/edit?usp=sharing And be sure to check this tutorial http://youtu.be/mrFF8LCZw5Y

-HDoom has its 5th techdemo! happy now? http://www.best-ever.org/download?file=m12-hdoom-techdemo5.pk3

Mods that also got updated (these links include their respective download links for each mod, by the way)

Doom RPG (not the mobile game) - http://forum.zdoom.org/viewtopic.php?f=19&t=33292
Hideous Destructor - http://forum.zdoom.org/viewtopic.php?t=12973
Pirate Doom - http://forum.zdoom.org/viewtopic.php?t=32674
DoomRL Arsenal - http://forum.zdoom.org/viewtopic.php?t=37044
GMOTA - http://forum.zdoom.org/viewtopic.php?p=742401

ATTENTION! If you know about something news-worthy PLEASE reply to this so everyone can see i

What???
Where is IMX? What happened to him?

>>1804324
He had some breakdown and hasn't been seen since. Hopefully nothing bad happened to him.

>>1804324

he pulled a steve austin

>>1804324
I dunno, he got mad about DKG or something and then stormed out of IRC in a huff. He's still here, but since he ain't posting threads I picked up the job.

>>1804327
>He's still here

any proof? and not that "we know because the way he writes" crap that you people often do to Sgt Mark IV

mfw Z& vs ZDoom thread gets locked
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wcW_Ygs6hm0

>>1804338

>mfw irc stuff nobody in this thread cares that much

>>1804334
He posted a video from his Youtube account here, that he also posted at around the same time to his Tumblr.

>>1804326
He beat his wife?

>>1804343

what was published first? any timestamps? once again, this seems too vague to be taken as evidence

>>1804346

BEAT DEBRA
OH HELL YEAH

>>1804340
>thread
>irc

I don't understand, anon.

>>1804327
>he got mad about DKG
Always these german faggots

>>1804352
http://pastebin.com/xuRGQ5kD

>>1804356

people from irc posting and pushing about stuff and drama which is completely unrelated to doom discussion.

>this dude nobody cares about is doing a video to show how perfect zdoom mp is! how retarded!
>but do not worry because we are also going to act equally as retarded with this video as a rebuttal, this will surely fix everything!

now they are bringing out how the thread got locked and everyone in the ZDF thread got a warning because they acted retarded on purpose

>>1804374
>zdoom netplay
>unrelated to doom discussion

I really don't understand, anon.

>>1804383

stop acting retarded on goddamn purpose. anyway, enough about irc crap, lets talk about fucking DOOM

>>1804387

No, anon, you're going to have to explain to me how discussing ZDoom and Zandronum netplay and how they compare to each other are not related to Doom.
Do you just want this board to be, like, it's own little bubble and never deal with anything outside?

Any new releases or big projects coming up in the Doom community?

>>1804408
BTSX E2 is apparently coming out August 31st or September 1st.

>>1804408
Adventures of Square is supposed to come out at the start of August

>>1804326
what does that mean

>>1804412

but once again

>Tarnsman

which may be the reason why isn't in the news section

>>1804424
>A person working on the project and one of the biggest contributors to it says when it's coming out
>We shouldn't believe him

>>1804424
or maybe it's just because !!5kgihugSn8y does not care as much as IMX at keeping the news post updated?

you can't blame him - it's a thankless task.

>>1804424
The Doomworld Megawad club already confirmed they're playing it for September, it's going to be pretty hard to play something that isn't out.

Also the whole someone on the team confirming it.

>>1804424
Nah, the reason is that I never considered it in the first place.
If it's really all that important (an actual release would make it), I can knock off the Metrood announcement, but ehhhhhhhhhhh

>>1804427
>>1804428
>>1804431

judging the attitude which he often goes around in both doomworld AND that thread, you just don't know

so anyway, if the DWMW, like >>1804431 said, is to be believed, then go ahead

>>1804432

OH HELL NO; keep doughnout in there

Any HDoom news?

>>1804432
>>1804435

I'm fine with knocking Metrood off and I made it, since it's been there for, what...how many months?

>>1804438

it's in dev hell

mystical and mike are both pulling doom 4s right now, scrapping everything they do once the night goes down

>>1804435
I fail to see how being a doom snob and saying when a project he's working on is going to come out are even remotely related

>-hobomaster22 is making a mod manager for Doom in the vein of Quake Injector, and has built-in /idgames support! It's pretty neat, give it a look. http://www.doomworld.com/vb/doom-general/69346-doom-frontend-development-beta/

How come this only shows a few things on the idgames tab?

>>1804438

They're working on new creatures, I believe.

>mfw playing Tricks and Traps for my first time with Brutal mod

>>1804489
>playing doom 2 for the first time with Brewtal Dewm

>>1804489
But you can do the level completely invincible.

What's the problem?

How come with the all the Doom players here nobody streams it? I check Twitch for the Doom and Doom 2 streams quite a bit and there's almost never people streaming it, only a few people playing Brutal Doom and the odd speedrunner, not counting Tarnsman because his streams suck since all he plays are shit wads.

>>1804518
Dime streams non-speedrun doom every once in a while. He has this on going series with Tarnsman and Alfonzo where they go through all the great wads through out the years. I think they just finished Requiem.

>Carmack retweeting this
https://twitter.com/humble/status/492776333433270272

ehehe...

>>1804530

>>1804352
>>1804346
>>1804326
Deja Vu.

>>1804518
RIP Goddamn Doomguy's streams.

>>1804540
Yeah how come he hasn't streamed? He was one of my favorite people on Twitch.

>>1804503

I haven't played it before so I guess I didn't make efficient use of the invinicibility power ups I found?

http://www.escapistmagazine.com/videos/view/uncivil-war/9587-Doom-II-King-of-Hell

You Brutal Doom haters arent going to like this...

>>1804539

what if Gez has been IMX all this time?

>>1804557
Uh what is that and why should i care

>>1804557
>escapist
I don't even need to click the link to know I hate it.

>>1804557
>e-celebs playing Brutal Doom
Jesus, call the cops

>>1804561

I figured someone here enjoys Yahtzee and/or Jim Sterling and would enjoy them having a silly Brutal Doom II competition. I know I'm enjoying it, but I'm a deviant.

>>1804557

if /doom/ hates brutal doom so much, then how come BD:SE exists?

shrekmate, brutalkiddies

>>1804572
>someone here enjoys Yahtzee and/or Jim Sterling and would enjoy them having a silly Brutal Doom II competition
that's horrifying

>>1804572
>enjoy
>Jim Sterling

>>1804573

>People responded to that

Looks like /v/ managed to usurp rationality on /vr/. Rest in peace.

it's kind of funny how people forget that Sperglord Edition was literally born in here.

kind of like how some people at /v/ hate Samsara

>>1804608
but muh caleb
muh strifeguy

>>1804608
>>1804573
>/vr/ is one person

>>1804620
Fuck off shitposter

>>1804606
Don't go claming /v/ wouldn't respond

>>1804626
>I can't read

That post meant that /v/ermin had finally taken over /vr/, killing the board. /v/ would definitely respond, and the responces to that post prove that there are /v/ermin patrolling these threads.

They wouldn't just respond. They'd take over the goddamn thread.

The post is gone anyway so...

What the fuck? Isn't discussing people playing brutal doom /vr/?

>>1804637
>you brutal doom haters are gonna hate this

it was obviously trying to start the 99999th BD argument

I saw an interesting thread where it was claimed that Doom is the most influential game of all time. Would you agree?

>>1804638

I swear I wasnt. Just posting a video I enjoyed. Anyway, it's not all that important. Let's get back to good old ripping and tearing.

Just finished a Doomrpg + doomrlla playthrough and feel like going for something different. Maybe I should try GMOTA. Havent gotten around to that yet.

Any suggestions for a map pack that'd work well with it ?

>>1804641

Definitely ONE of the most influencial. And still relevant seeing that we still get swamped with FPS's nowadays.

>>1804641
It's probably one of the most influential, yeah.
People spawning their own FPS games with it in mind certainly gave growth to the genre.

>>1804641
Maybe, certainly the most influential since it was released.

Most influential might be something like pong or pac man that got the whole video game shebang rolling.

>>1804645
>Any suggestions for a map pack that'd work well with it ?

Epic, Brotherhood of Ruin.

What do you think is the best looking wad? A wad with great architecture, use of textures, etc

is there any wads out there that will make my jaw drop

>>1804658
Deus Vult 2.

>>1804658
DBZone. Too bad nobody plays it anymore.

>>1804661
You mean no one plays it ONLINE. I still occasionally play it on single player.

>>1804658

Greenwar 2.

>>1804663
BROTHER

I want to make a Seinfeld doom total conversion where you play as your favorite Seinfeld character in the most memorable Seinfeld situations.

>cyber newman
>icon of soup nazi
>archkramer

>>1804681
what's up with your ssg

>>1804530
Noice.
And it's a nice bundle too.
Can't wait to become Romero's bitch.

>>1804658
Gothic99
Crucified Dreams
Deus Vult 2
Plutonia 2
Plutonia Community Project Revisited
Back To Saturn X

>>1804708
Not him, but it's the lighting on the spawnpoint, iirc

FUCKING SHIT
Avast is saying hexchat is malicious and won't let me reinstall
I wanna get in the irc guys :(

>>1804719
Playing BTSX E1 right now. It's got great texture use and level design is pretty awesome layout wise and in other aspects but there's nothing really, uh, epic or jaw dropping about it.
>>1804726
Get chatzilla if you're using firefox, works for me.

>>1804726
at "worst" use Mirc (on't bother cracking/paying, it's like winrar) or mibbit (in-browser)

>>1804728
I'm in chrome
besides I dont want an in browser chat

>>1804726
>Avast is saying hexchat is malicious and won't let me reinstall
You downloaded it from a bad source. You're fucked. Always run your shit through virus total.

>>1804736
I got it from hexchat's website
how is that a "bad source"

>>1804739
I mean you obviously fucked something up and didn't actually get it from hexchat's website.

>>1804728
>there's nothing really, uh, epic or jaw dropping about it
Really? How far have you gone? I found the general way everything looks was great.

Shit, the last few maps are fucking fantastic, not just in looks, but I had a big fucking ball playing them, just plain excellent.

>>1804741
Well I mean I've had the program for a week or so before this
it just started doing this today
even the old installer gets flagged as malicious

>>1804746
Are you sure your Avast isn't actually malware?

>>1804726
>Avast
there's your problem

>>1804748
Pretty sure

>>1804719
>Gothic99
If you enjoy terrible micro detail that clogs every hallway and makes DM impossible to play

>>1804726
Chatzilla and Mirc are alternate options.
If you absolutely must, Mibbit suffices.

>>1804728
>there's nothing really, uh, epic or jaw dropping about it.
It can run on a 486

>>1804754
He asked for jawdropping visuals, nothing else.

>>1804758
It's not jaw dropping, it's a cluttered mess

>>1804726
Hell, even Nettalk can work.

>>1804726
>Not using irssi
What is wrong with you?

>>1804757
Oh yeah, the entire .wad is vanilla compatible, I wonder how it looks in 320x200 resolution?

Pic unrelated.

>>1804762
I;m new to this whole irc business

>>1804763
>Oh yeah, the entire .wad is vanilla compatible
Doesn't it use Boom stuff?

>>1804759
It's visually impressive in my opinion.

>>1804767
no

Are there any good Heretic gameplay mods worth using? I always thought the weapons were pretty unsatisfying. I've been going through all the old Doom engine games lately for the millionth time and want to try something a little different.

>>1804658
ZanZan
Equinox
Caverns of Darkness
Phobos: Anomaly Reborn
Void
Brotherhood of Ruin
RTC-3057
Grove
Daedalus
Phobia: The Age
Foreverhood v1.0
Cheogsh
Cheogsh 2
Realm of Cheogsh
Knee Deep in ZDoom
BGPA Missions: Liberation
Paranoid
The Ultimate Torment & Torture
The City of the Damned
The City of the Damned Apocalypse
Sapphire - Orbital Research
Austerity - A Simplicity Tribute
The Refinery
Primary: Gold
Vanilla Sky
Happy Time Circus II

>That easter egg room in the outpost

I was not prepared

>>1804658
Try Caverns of Darkness. It looks great though some maps are unfinishable without cheating anywhere but in port bundled with .wad. Which is very old version of Eternity Engine.
Some maps by Ribbiks (Stardate, Swim with the Whales e.g.) have interesting design choices. Also try Sunder, it has some great architecture. Maps 20 and 21 from 4th Community Chest also worth a look. You may also like Vela Pax.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Usa1U5aNa0Y

>>1804946
damn that look shitty as fuck

>>1804946

>>1804946

>>1804946
Nice concept, it has potential.
The execution could be improved.

>>1805030
>Nice concept
It's literally just resprited vanilla weaponry.

>>1805052
Which is why I said it needed improvement.

>>1805072
it needs pretty much everything.

>>1805072
I do not feel that mod was trying to be anything more than what you saw there.

>>1804946
>fuzzy dice

>>1804671

>>1805027
What's that?

>>1805120
No idea. It was posted around here about a year ago. Don't remember if it had any context then, but I felt it was somewhat relevant here

I remember seeing Eriance do an Automatic Shotgun a long time ago and was hoping to be able to use it in Eriguns, but it seems that won't be getting updated anymore.

I decided that I wanted to turn it into a sprited weapon using autoshotgun code from Demon Eclipse but apparently I don't know how to work with sprites at all and have lost the sprite sheet as well.

>>1805193
das racis

>>1805202

no, das DOOM

Would /vr/ be interested in reading my /doom/ general inspired fan fiction?

I haven't written anything yet, just curious if you dawgs would be down.

>>1805237
Sure, as long as you aren't the anon who wrote

>>1804671
I have no clue what the weapons would be, but I would probably enjoy that too much.

>>1804946
>using that shitty car overlay
>but still keeping mouselook on so you can look down, tilting the entire "car"
lol, this is so bad

>>1805169
>>1805120
It looks like Carmageddon with a Doom mod. Could be the inverse, but that looks pretty close to original Carmageddon behavior.

>>1805252

Still doing my first playthrough of Doom 2, loving it so far.

Just got to the City episode. That, uh, wasn't exactly what I was expecting the city to look like... it actually looks like some Doom fan's first map or something with a cityscape skybox slapped on it.

Is the whole episode like this?

>>1805367
More or less. It gets better the closer to Hell you get.

>>1805367

remember, it was released on mid 1994; people should stop getting spoiled by modern WADs, it's not like people went straight ahead and did Vanilla Sky-ish city levels in the 90s.

>>1805387
Plus Doom had a lot of limitations put into it due to the architecture of target computers so they didn't cause problems.

>>1804551
...So you're playing Doom 2 for the first time.

Using BD.

k i dont care

From reddit.

>>1805413

it's on dA too, reblogged by Buzz--I mean, Goddamn Doomguy

>>1805413
This reminds me, did we ever add that new image pack some anon made into the pasta?

>>1805413
That's pretty good except for Doomguts face looks a bit strange.

>>1804551
Protip: stop now & play the vanilla versions of Doom games first. Admire the Mona Lisa before you move on to admire the modern recreation, so to speak...

>>1805387
>>1805392
>it's not like people went straight ahead and did Vanilla Sky-ish city levels in the 90s.
Trinity.wad was released around that time, there's no reason for a city to look like complete shit

>>1805387
I think it was more that the Doom 2 levels didn't look as pretty as the Doom 1 levels.

Overall I think Doom 2 had better gameplay (though a couple were stinkers, probably due to it getting rushed out the door.) but I don't think anyone would argue that Doom 1 (specifically Episode 1) didn't look better.

>>1805425
Or at least something like Beautiful Doom or Smooth Doom.

>>1805435
>Chasm
>Bloodfalls
>Citadel
I hope they slapped the guy who made these.

>Playing TNT for a few hours
>Just finished the super secret level, now I'm at Mill
>Play through maybe half of the level before getting killed by a baron
>Realize the last time I saved was half way through the super secret level
Despite all my rage, I am still just a rat in the cage.

>>1805459
Pistol start Mill faget.

>>1805451
>Citadel
While the map is pretty poorly set up, the idea of it is nice. Especially being able to teleport to the four corners of the citadel. It's a level I'd like to see a remake of, along with Worm Hole from TNT.

>>1804946
>imp riding a cacodemon

Found this in my images folder, don't even remember making it

>>1805459

I'm so sorry to hear, anon.

>>1805480
It's more likely than you think.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P-4V7VSZXBk

How do I find the secret levels in 200 minutes of vr?

Spoiler pls

>>1805510
Most boring shit ever.

>>1805510
What's the point of UV Max?

>>1805561

Killing all monsters and getting all secrets in the shortest time possible

UV-Speed is more of a speedrun compared to UV-max, since UV-Speed is about finishing the level in the quickest way possible

>>1805027
>>1805268
It's a pity there isn't a modern source port for Carmageddon.
Not to my knowledge, anyway.

>>1805565
You need 100% items too.

hello. sorry for the dumb question but i'm brand new at this. i've played doom several times but ive never once used a custom wad.

my question is. if the wad doesnt replace an entire episode, will the game just go as normal and then transition to the modded content whenever it reaches the map its replacing? or do i need some special tool to access the specific map

>>1804658
Hell Ground
Planisphere 2
Hellcore 2.0

>>1805576
>You need

[citation needed]

http://doomwiki.org/wiki/UV_max
http://doomwiki.org/wiki/Speedrun

>>1805510
>That one Cyber Demon rocket that almost sniped him at 6:30
Top lel
This map looks like if you had an experienced mapper make the geometry but then gave a noob the job of monster placement. I was never a fan of slaughter maps unless they had some kind of puzzle to them.

>>1804309
>lets make doom full of gayness, so funnie
god I hate the internet and it's lazy attempts at "humor" sometimes

>>1805583
Usually a mod will replace a specific map in the game and tell you in it's supplied TXT file. A good deal of the time it will replace Doom 1's MAP01, so you should be able to just straight up start Doom with the WAD loaded in and start a game as per usual.

A good amount of classic Doom WADs replace assets to give you what they want. The only ones that don't add DeHackEd stuff or additional textures.

Before you call me out on spreading misinformation, I said CLASSIC Doom WADs.

>>1805510
>oh cool this should be interesting
>starts walking all over the enemies

That's not how UV-Max works. You have to play within specific limitations in order to be a UV-Max.

>>1805586
If that's the case then the guy doing this spent an extra 3-5 minutes doing nothing >>1805510

>>1805598
It looks like a ZDoom-only WAD though, due to those lights.

>>1805593
thanks for the info

>>1805605
But you can turn infinitely tall actors on in the compatibility options.

>>1805586
>Go 2 It
>03:04

Damn.

>>1805605
You still have to play under Doom rules for UV-Max to ever be allowed by anyone checking speedruns.

>>1805604
>>1805605
>>1805609
>>1805598
>>1805587

>This map looks like if you had an experienced mapper make the geometry but then gave a noob the job of monster placement.

you know what's the funniest thing? This was done by Eternal. Around the time when he was working on Hell Ground, quite another different beast compared to this.

http://www.doomworld.com/idgames/?file=levels/doom2/Ports/j-l/longdays.zip

Seems like PrBoom or even GlBoom would suffice. DSDA returns an UV-Max demo which totally crush that Youtube video, 6:57 by phml

http://doomedsda.us/wad1117.html

>>1805540
map15
when the floor lowers as you approach the blue key, there is a pair of light goggles, there is a door behind them hiding a button. when pressed, part of the wall in the yellow key room will open revealing the secret exit


map31
do one circuit of the level as normal; when you reach back to the start and the normal exit opens, go back outside, you should see a wall has opened up with a hitler portrait in it on the far side of the platform jumping sequence

>>1804732
Chatzilla has a standalone version. It's very nice.

http://chatzilla.rdmsoft.com/xulrunner/

>>1805605
it is not, it was designed to run in glboom -complevel 9

it also run perfectly well in software mode, but does whine at you amusingly in that case, as you are not using high resolution textures.

Which doom monster would make the chillest bro?

>>1805632
None of them.
They're mindless killers want to destroy you for the glory of Hell.

>>1804658
So what's a good balance of visual ascetics for a map? I tend to do little micro & macro detail (like super decorated pillars, slightly misplaced pieces of the floor, or detailed large structures,) in preference of making minor decorations to a room that don't get in the way or taking the "you're in a small part of a larger area" approach. Like having an area you can see but can't access or making the maps interconnected.

>>1805540
map15 -> map31
when the floor lowers as you approach the blue key, there is a pair of light goggles, there is a door behind them hiding a button. when pressed, part of the wall in the yellow key room will open revealing the secret exit

map31 -> map32
do one circuit of the level as normal; when you reach back to the start and the normal exit opens, go back outside, you should see a wall has opened up with a hitler portrait in it on the far side of the platform jumping sequence

map32 -> map33
there is no route from map32 to map33, did you think there was something worth reading here? ;-) seriously though, you have to -warp or idclev or use the console to get to map33, it's an intentional super secret bonus map that doesn't work in vanilla.

>>1805632
If you got on their good side, I think they'd all be pretty cool to chill with.

Out of all of them though.. probably the zombies. The SS too.

>>1805645
oh my fucking god that filename

>>1804658
Putrefier

>>1805659
I really liked the crazy flesh at the end of that wad.

So /vr/, what are the best maps for gameplay? Either just great or solid, or interesting?

Can be a single map, a larger collection, a megawad, or even one to several individual maps within a megawad, or just a particular part of a level or whatever. Any format, any design style, from a 1995 mistextured nightmare to a 2013 zdoom project with 9gb of custom textures, so long as it plays well. Anything.

I'm trying to play a bunch to get better at mapping; I think I have looks down, and feel like I have tweaking monster behavior in interesting ways down, but I have a strong desire to get more versed in gameplay, or more specifically how level layout affects gameplay. Even the couple of things I've done where people have said the gameplay was good I feel like I lucked into good ideas rather than crafted from the beginning like I'm sure a lot of veteran mappers that have been mapping for years do.

Also feel free to just give advice that is separate from any map, just posts or even links to good mapping guides.

Right now I'm playing through episode 4 again, since I like how it's really hard without throwing a billion monsters at you.

>>1805632
I'd say Barons and Hellknights are the chillin-est. They stay chill after friendly fire between fellow nobles (because they're immune, but that's besides the point).

>>1805689
Scythe and Scythe 2
Threshold of Pain
Alien Vendetta

>>1805692
Thanks, I've actually played Scythe 2 and AV already but I will give those another playthrough while paying closer attention, along with Threshold of Pain and Scythe.

>>1805689
Back to Saturn X for how to do non linear levels that aren't a complete clusterfuck.

>>1805689
This wad will help you learn how to make a map look fantastic even while limiting yourself to 2 textures.

http://www.doomworld.com/idgames/index.php?file=levels/doom2/Ports/m-o/nightomb.zip

>>1805704
Will give this a shot again too, I've played it but not without mods and it's probably a good idea for me to play it vanilla.

>>1805707
Just downloaded it, will be the first thing I play when I finish E4 again tonight.

Thanks, both of you.

>>1804316
I have a question, are those signatures actually PART of the poster, or is it just this same scan of a single signed copy that keeps getting spread around for years?

>>1805741
Part of the poster.

Source: I had it when I was 10

>>1804779

The Brutal Doom guy is planning on making a Brutal Heretic/Hexen mod in the future.

>>1805353
Okay, that's cool.

Alright, this will probably get no response for a bit, but I have 5 maps. They aren't "new" in the strictest sense as a few of them have been posted before, but I'm looking for feedback on how to tweak/improve them.
https://www.dropbox.com/s/6adibxovgw13fnn/FiveMaps.wad

Feedback is most appreciated. There are more after this, of course--there's going to be another map between 4 and 5 and I have my Map07 in progress. Right now I have about 10 maps planned out.

>>1805707
>Barons in a "glass cage" trick
>Oh I see how this is going to go down
>Position behind switch aimed towards barons
>SSG out
>Ready_for_your_shit.png
>Press switch
>Archvile_revving_up_those_friers.wav
>Teleporter noise
>Didn't see it happen but totally know what happened
>mfw

Imagine a TC of Doom that replaces all of the enemies with characters from American Dad.

It could be called... American Doom.

>>1805765
yes, nightomb is an evil level, full of traps

What creature do you think Revenants come from? They're very humanlike, but way too tall to come from us. Arch-viles are the same height and are the most humanlike demons in the game, but they have much longer fingers. This has confused me for a long time.

>>1805779
http://www.doom2.net/single/monsters.html

>>1805779
Regular people skeletons corrupted by Hell with rocket launchers and shorts.

Hell magic is the answer to everything, how else do they move and punch and scream?

>>1805779
Manual says it's what happens to the demons you've killed that have been fucked beyond all reasoning.

They take their skeletons, slap on some rocket launcher armor, and then send 'em back out into the fray.

I guess Mancubi with the fat trimmed.

>>1805779

they're skeletons anon, they ain't gotta explain sh-AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

>>1805796
Mancubi have those huge elephant hoof feet though.

>>1805794
>Hell magic is the answer to everything,
And if not that, then Cybernetics.

I wouldn't be surprised if the silver breastplate is all that the Revenant really "is", and the bones are just dangling there as window dressing.

>>1805741

They're part of the poster. I have it hanging on my wall.

>>1805779
http://www.doomworld.com/vb/showthread.php?s=&postid=327350#post327350

I just mostly go by this post. Most of them are cool enough.

Seriously, not like there's much lore behind each monster, so it's not like there's anything to contradict.

The Revenant was found in the Portal environment, but it's biology (or lack thereof) defies scientific explanation so thoroughly that it has not been classified at this time.

The Revenant for all practical appearances is an animated, bipedal skeleton with varying amounts of attached gore. Examination of perished specimins reveals that the weapons attached to the shoulders of its jacket appear to be made with similar technology to that of the alien-modified monsters within the Portal environment. Clear understanding of the Revenant's function stops there.

Postmortem, the Revenant is a pile of bones, with no attaching connective tissue between the bones, no mechanical devices except for the weapon on each shoulder, and no working organs. Parts of ligaments, organs, and small amounts of extensively damaged muscle tissue cling to some of the bones, but do not appear to have recently performed any animation or biological function. Genetic analysis and identification of the remains were inconclusive due to consistant, massive cellular damage throughout all portions of all collected samples. The remains also emit a strong smell of decay, the onset of which is sudden and begins at the moment the Revenant ceased to be animated.

...

>>1805827
In the "animated" state, the Revenant's bones behave as though they are connected at the typical bipedal points at approximately the correct angles. The Revenant apparrently supports itself on its two legs, is able to stand and run, and it exhibits aggressive behavior similar to the (other) Portal organisms. Its attack involves either a powerful physical assault with its fists or, when the target is not within easy reach, its weapon fires projectiles at the target. The projectile is sphere-shaped, self-propelled, and moves at a relatively low speed for such a projectile (estimated 20mph). It flies in a spiral pattern at least initially, but homes in on the Revenant's target and approaches it. The projectile is only capable of making wide turns toward its target, and this is why the flight pattern can sometimes remain a semi-spiral. It is even possible (although not simple) for the target to move into the correct position relative to the projectile to cause the projectile to orbit the target without striking it.

The Revenant remains an enigma.

>>1805590

Go away Joe.

I fell into peer pressure and installed Brudal Dood
Whats the best wad to play it on?

>>1805869
For Brutal Doom I think Hellbound works pretty good.

Sgt Mark's remakes of Doom 2 levels also works.

>>1805869

>playing Brutal Doom

Generally you'll want to go with a pretty easy-going mapset that doesn't fall into slaughterfests later on.
Mark's remakes of the Doom 2 levels were pretty much explicitly designed to be combined with Broodal.

>>1805880
>>1805886
Doom 2 level remakes?

>>1805886
Aren't there Mr. Chris's brutalized maps as well, on that note? .. I might be misremembering the person anyway. (I don't think Mark remade the original maps any, but what do I know?)

>>1805880

What are his Doom 2 level remakes like? Do they make the level design less confusing?

>>1805901
I've only seen his updated Doom 1 levels and if his Doom 2 levels are like those they've got the same layout and just look better.

>>1805779

This? They got re-tooled to fight doomguy, but they lost the cape, helm and hammers, for the Dual rocket launcher, Thats my theroy..

Someone apparently converted a bunch of Doom songs to run off of the Sega Genesis / Megadrive audio processor, as a proof of concept for how Doom on 32X should have sounded. It's pretty kick ass.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=brBQVcf37Xc

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O6rlCc-C3Sg

If the game actually sounded like that, and of it had more levels, 32X Doom could have been a legit contender for the best retro console version of the game (from a technical perspective Doom for Jaguar was the best, but it unfortunately does not have any music at all which knocks it down a few pegs).

I wonder if it would be viable to do a hack for 32X doom to make the music sound like that? I know people have hacked the game to give it more levels from the PC version, but I imagine that tinkering with the game's audio is a somewhat different beast. Maybe I am just a sucker for wanting to see turds polished, but I wish someone with programming skills would look into it.

>>1805908
>tfw 32x doom was my first experience with doom
I'm sorry.

>>1805908
Jaguar version also removed some stages and cut many things from many levels.

>>1805869
I'm playing unloved with BD.

>>1805915
I'm pretty sure every console version of Doom before the Xbox port of Doom 3 (which included Doom 1 and 2) was missing levels. The Jaguar version of Doom played extremely well since John Carmack worked on it himself, although due to the Jaguar's retarded architecture he had to choose between making it play well and having music, so he chose to cut the music from it and have the game play smoothly. The Wolfenstein 3D port on Jaguar made a lot fewer sacrifices-- in fact it was better than the PC version in some ways.

>>1805741
Part of the poster. My brother used to have that very poster.

>>1805926
>Jaguar Wolfenstein
Dem sprites.

I am fine with console versions of Doom being different.
I just think 32X Doom removed a little too much to contend with the Jaguar version, music or not.

>>1805914
It's still Doom. You could play it on a potato and it would still be cool.

>>1805908

Sega 32x is my first and favorite version of Doom, technical limitations be damned.

I would love a version that fixed the music, it would make it more refreshing to play.

I've tried to play mods to spice the game up, like Brutal Doom, but that stuff just feels wrong. Not the same game I grew up with. This improved 32x soundtrack is amazing though.

Thanks m8.

>>1805934
There are romhacks that add the missing content from the 32x version back, but actually getting said hacks onto a cartridge is a bit of a pain.

Ironically the 3DO version had the most kickass soundtrack out of any of the console ports, but the game itself did not run nearly as well as the Jaguar version, and was even outshined by the 32X version in terms of playability. The screen for the 3DO version was absolutely tiny.

I like that with Doom 64 it wasn't even a port of Doom but rather an entirely new game. They did a really good job taking advantage of the N64's hardware and they also gave people who had already played Doom a reason to check it out.

>>1805942

How would you rate Doom 64's level design in comparison to Doom 1, Doom 2, and popular .wads?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z_iVydI6LUA

this guy is fucking awesome.

>those sounds

>>1805945
Not him but I'd give it a 7 or 8 out of 10.
It's nice, definitely worth a playthrough.

>>1805946
The shooting should be done with both hands so that way the idle animation makes sense.

It animates fine.

>>1805945
Techbase levels are weak compared to the PC Dooms
Medieval/Hell levels are pretty good though.

So, I wanted to learn some things about mapping by looking at wads, but opening /pol/.wad in Doombuilder 2 gives me this nice piece of abstract art. Anyone know why?

>>1805965

>spaghetti mapping.

>>1805965
everything's looking fine, i really don't see the issue
just kidding, you loaded the map in a wrong format, try UMDF or doom in hexen style)

>>1805971
Yup, now it's working. I guess I should try making a small vanilla Doom 2 map first before trying anything more advanced involving scripts. Although I might want to add some custom textures, which isn't too difficult.

>tfw I boot up Brutal Doom and hear the Metal Soundtrack Mod

>>1805982

Those metal gloves are fucking cool

Okay let's see here you put the shells in the slot like...

ah fuck it.

>>1805935
>GBA Doom
Rip & tear on the go. Hope you got a Game Boy flash light handy when you're playing in the back of a car at night.

>>1805170
So does anyone know where I can find the sprite sheet for that Auto shotgun?

>>1805986
The homebrew PSP port was surprisingly good. I am surprised it didn't get an official release.

>>1805976
I totally recommend that anyone who wants to get into mapping start with a vanilla map. It helps them not go too deep in over their heads.

>There are actually people who recommend you map for ZDoom first

>>1805576
100% items are not required for 100% runs. Besides, It would generally result in a lot of wasted time, since it counts even insignificant things like health/armour bonuses.

>>1805908
Holy shit, that fucking scratchy-techno sound to the guitar rifts is amazing. 10/10 stuff

Why doesnt GZdoom recognize pol.wad?

>>1806037
the jews made gzdoom

>>1806037
Well turns out the files corrupted, anyone know where to get a working version?

>someone on /v/ right now is arguing that QTE's make more sense than a Doom gun's hitscan mechanics.

>>1806049
http://www.mediafire.com/download/q6b7lqcm7jcect6

>>1806057
>Going to /v/
>in 2014
>during summer
for what purpose

>>1806058
That works, thanks mate.

>>1806061
>going to /v/
>at all

>>1806049
Have you tried here?

http://www.wad-archive.com/wad/2781793ecb5b60b0dc40ba37c1572c05

>dragged myself through the BFG edition of Doom 1 and Doom 2 on UV just so I could flaunt the stupid fucking achievements on my profile
God, the faggotry was worth it.

>>1805632
Commander Keen

>>1806090
He's Doomguy's direct ancestor.

>>1806097
I thought that was the other way around?

>>1806061
>>1806071
I keep going there hoping ill find a hidden gem thread for a game i like.

>>1806106
Isn't it some dumb thing like Commander Keen is the ancestor of Doomguy is the ancestor of Blazco?

>>1806127
Wolfenstein is about the Blaz line kicking ass in the past. Commander Keen is about the Blaz line kicking ass in the present. Doom is about the Blaz line kicking ass in the future. It's like the Belmonts in Castlevania, only spread out over three otherwise unrelated IPs.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VmDNJ8EFPBA&feature=youtu.be

gauntlet's coming along nicely, got some nice sounds for the alt fire mode selector

Is it actually possible to beat pol.wad?
I killed 2 cyberdemons but there was so much shit everywhere and I didnt have anything left.

>>1805995
I thought something felt off about it, not sure if that's just me though.

Anyone have a source for Recurring Nightmares WAD? The one that was a redoing of Ult Doom with D2/GZDoom features?

>>1806127
Keen is BJ's grandson.
Doomguy is Keen's great-great-I'm-not-sure-how-many-greats-I-technically-need grandson.

>>1805451
>>1805435
>>1805387
>>1805367

>>1806162
Yes

The key isn't to kill everything it's to last long enough to get to the flashing end of level platform that lowers.

>>1805575
There is, sort of. It's moreso a recreation kinda like OpenMW for Morrowind. It's called OpenC1

>>1806193
Well I just beat it, jesus christ that was intense.

>>1806116
Why is Doom 3 so fucking hard?

>>1806206

Because you're not playing as Doomguy, you're playing as a weenie marine

>>1806216
Some of the beginner enemies are literally surviving over two near-direct hits from a shotgun, why the hell?

On that note, how people are seeming to forget that shotguns are the key favourite in the entire franchise? Even the new Doom seems to focus more on melee and chainsaws than the shotgun duo, what gives? Who actually gives a shit about the chainsaw in all honesty, not even Brutal Doom fans care about it.

Why hasnt anyone just made a converted .wad of doom 1 into the doom2 engines so we dont have to deal with every mod not being able to run it without fixing? Just dont change anything and leave it at that.

>>1805510
I feel that the awesome map is wasted on being a slaughter map.

>>1806225
what

it's the same engine on both, the only difference is the data in the .wad

I don't know what you're trying to say

>>1806221
>Who actually gives a shit about the chainsaw in all honesty

plenty of people do

also doom 3 is more fun with chainsaw, it's surprisingly powerful in that game

>>1806225
Lots of complications are involved, one of the many people texture naming conflicts.

>>1806229
being*

Jesus christ why am I still awake.

>>1806229
Well why hasnt someone just made a version and fixed the conflicts so we could all be happy?

>>1805985
haha nice

>>1806238
..he just told you.

>>1806039
actually GZdoom is made by a pure Germanic thoroughbred. you now realise why he acts so superior to everyone else - because he is superior to all mongrel peasants.

his name translates literally (in the literal sense of literally) to "Lord of Numbers"

>>1806251
>Lots of complications are involved
Well youd think after 21 (?) years we would have been able to work through them.

>>1806226
if it weren't a slaughter it would be giant empty space anon. what do you want?

>>1806254
Google Translate gave me 'The Count'

Zero! Zero approved feature suggestions! AH AH AH AH AAAHH

>>1806257
The fact that it hasnt been done by now is probably a good clue as to it's less than possibility

>>1806286
>Zero! Zero approved feature suggestions! AH AH AH AH AAAHH

Besides DoomRPG what are some other good RPG mods for Doom?

Beginner question here, what would you argue is better for OpenGL purposes.

GZDoom or Zandronum?

>>1806295
You know Zandronum is little more than a years-old version of GZDoom with client-server netcode, right?

When I run Gzdoom in 1920, I usually get about 200+ FPS. But when recording with Fraps, it goes down to a sluggish 20 to 30. Which options would you advice to turn off/alter so that I can get decent FPS while recording while also keeping that resolution?

>>1806302
>1920
GZdoom wasnt out in 1920
Also
>fraps

>>1805945
>rate Doom 64's level design in comparison to Doom 1, Doom 2, and popular .wads?

E1: *****
E2/E3: ***
Doom 2: mixed bag, some great levels, lot of middling levels and some real stinkers
Doom 64: even ****, very consistent, but no standout highs or lows. Almost no open outdoor areas, mostly claustrophobic interiors, but some very smart monster/item balance, secrets, traps, layout, etc.

I can't really compare old stuff to modern wads though. If you don't appreciate the vanilla old-school style, then fancier wads blow it out of the water.

>>1806286
it's true, i am reliably informed that graf zahl is the count's name in the german version of sesame street.

Lets do a test. What are all the mods you currently have in your doom folder (or installed, whatever you want to call them)?

>>1806254
>>1806286
>>1806321

you fools, all this time you've been doing it wrong; what you need to do is not to make a suggestion in the pertinent forum, but to pointlessly whine about it in a completely unrelated subforum
http://forum.zdoom.org/viewtopic.php?f=4&t=46233
http://forum.zdoom.org/viewtopic.php?p=774738#p774738

>>1806324
ALL of them, anon? Are you sure about this?

>>1806334
Yes

>>1805707

>limiting yourself or 2 textures

seen 3 different textures in the first room and the stairs got another, then come flats, seen at least 3 different too.

>>1805945
Doom 64's techbase levels are kinda boring, but its hell/castle themed levels are pretty great.

>>1806330
how ironic. wildweasel complaining that forced nofreelook is a deal breaker, when he is happy to inflict forced freelook on anyone who dares use his mods by implementing weapons that fuck around with your pitch when you fire them.

>>1806296
name of wad the map is from?

>>1806357

Oblige 6.10

>>1806296

How impressive...
next step, Nuts in tyson nightmare no invul?

>>1806349
check it again. i suspect what you think are completely different textures are all different parts of bigdoor7, with clever alignment.

>>1806334
>I only have half a gig
Post it

>>1806370

Oops, you're right

mayhem 13 map02: apparently, i was transported here in an upside-down saucepan

>>1806352
>how ironic. wildweasel complaining that forced nofreelook is a deal breaker,
I'd say that it is.

>when he is happy to inflict forced freelook on anyone who dares use his mods by implementing weapons that fuck around with your pitch when you fire them.
>implying you can't literally comment out those lines from the weapons code, and then play without freelook

>>1806302
There's honestly not much you can do at that point. Turn off shaders where you can, dynamic lights can be turned off, and try a different screen recorder.

Fraps is like the Windows Movie Maker of screen recorders, it's just not flexible and can't do multithreading. Try some different ones, mess with their settings, and see if any work better like Bandicam or Dxtory (google and use the Lagarith Lossless codec with Dxtory).

You can also record custom resolutions with those to save speed, last I checked fraps only handles fullsize or halfsize. Recording at 1280x720 while still playing at 1920x1080 should do the trick.

Is there a larger list of good mods somewhere? The current one is really small.

>>1806409
>I'd say that it is.
i agree that restriction of player options is obnoxious

>>implying you can't literally comment out those lines from the weapons code, and then play without freelook
i don't see why i should have to go around editing things out of mods, the same argument applies as for the addition of the sv_allowfreelook option.

>>1806302
>Not playing at 640x480

>>1806442
Well it's a mod, if you like the mod but don't like the recoil effect, why don't you just go into the Decorate files and comment out or erase the SetPitch lines? It takes a couple of minutes at most.

>>1806445
>not playing 320x200, silky smooth 15 fps, no OpenGL, no freelook, arrow keys only
Fuck off puristfaggot, you are the cancer killing /doom/
Who the fuck still plays with arrow keys or 640x400, you gotta be retarded

>>1806460
>not 35 fps like the way it was coded

>>1806460
Mouselook is definitely more fun to play with, but if I were showing off, I'd use arrow keys.

I just realized that IMX did not create the thread.
Where is he? What happened?

>>1806494
check the previous thread in the archives

>>1806494
This post is a trick.
Do not reply.

I've read the FAQ but I still dont get why Brutal Doom is so bad.
Why is reloading bad? Why are iron sights bad?
This is more realistic. I do enjoy vanilla Doom, but I just can't imagine playing Doom without BD anymore.

How do I run DoomRPG with Oblige?

>>1806531
>>1806534
these posts are also bait

Is there a better megawad than Back to Saturn X? It's amazing.

>>1806545
Chillax, it is really great.
Runs good with Tormentor or Brutal Doom

>>1806542
>LELELELELELE GUISEEEE I EXPOSED LE SHITPOSTERS XDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD

What the fuck is your problem? This is a legit question you fucking twat

Remember:
Report and ignore.

And fuck your mum, IMX

>>1806551
my bad.
I've not heard of DoomRPG on Odamex

>>1806558
I think he meant the BD one

>>1806006
The Genesis / Megadrive's audio synthesizer was pretty much designed for metal music. Doom should have been it's chance to shine.

So, OBLIGE does not support anything except for Doom now? What the hell?

>>1806564
well, BD is a pretty taboo subject. It brings in the many shitposters.
Check the FAQ or something

>>1806186
Here is a handy reference graphic.

>>1806558
>Oblige
>Odamex
they're not the same thing!

>>1806534
Wait why was this deleted?

>>1806578
Sorry.
I'm tired, okay?

>>1806490
The first time I played Half-Life, it got me hooked on mouselook, unless it's Wolfenstein 3D, I just can't play a first-person shooter unless it has some kind of freelook, be it with mouse or analog sticks.

The Dual-Shock felt pretty natural when I played through vanilla Doom on the PS3, even though I couldn't look up and down, I really wish there existed a Doom arcade cabinet, with some kind of neat custom made Dual-Shock knockoff made specifically for playing Doom and Doom Sourceports.

A little charging port where you rest the controller when you're not playing, and some menu buttons on a panel beneath the screen, for saving and loading, adjusting options and selecting wads.

>>1806584
What do you mean?
1. Generate wad with OBLIGE.
2. Put in in folder with GZDoom.
3. Check it on the Files tab.
Its not that hard.

>>1806595
But who deleted it?

>>1806597
Probably because the janitor thought you were the german shitposter

mayhem13 again. cc4-tex does lead to some rather... colourful maps.

Why is Doom1 music so much better than doom2s?

>>1806635
I disagree.

>>1806636
But you are wrong.
Doom1 music was way better, it was (to put simply) glorious fakes of actual songs by great bands

>>1806642
So was Doom 2 music.

They also both had some original tracks.

>>1806635
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Loaded_question

what music do you listen to when fucking up the demon invasion?

>>1806678
Doom/Doom2 soundtrack

>>1806679
a lot of which is a mishmash of remixed 80's metal anyway

>>1806678
The soundtracks. Sheesh.

>>1806635
Doom 1's OST felt like an Action game's OST, with occasional serious tracks

Doom 2 feels more like a serious/atmospheric game's soundtrack, with occasional action game tracks.


Kinda funny, considering Doom 2's level design went in a more pure action direction, where as Doom 1's maps were more atmospheric (especially e2 and e3's levels)

Are there any command and conquer doom mods? Not even CNC-styled, just cnc themed. I just want to shoot NOD troops or soviets while listening to Westwood music.

Or, hell, I could just play DOOM while listening to it.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P1HdMxjnIZY

>>1806678
>listening to anything else but the ingame soundtrack
People like you really exist? Wow......

>>1806707
The ingame soundtrack is good and all, but after playing the game for so long, the music just got Dull for me. Gotta have something new, you know?

>>1806678
usually silence. sometimes some really fast hardcore or jungle techno if i know the level really well and don't need sound so much.

>>1806707
i also never listen to the in-game music.

>>1806718
>what are music wad's
You are fucking retarded, kill yourseöf

>>1806725
>yourseöf
AHAAAA!!! Fuck off Doomkartguy, we know it is you you stinkin', rotten rat.

>>1806718
Try the Anarchy Reigns sountrack:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qbWl5hbwp-A
Or the Red Alert Soundtrack:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yGgnywWO6Ts

>>1806702
There's All out war, but I don't think that's what you want.

>>1806678
PSX Doom soundtrack.

>>1805992
Google and the /vr/ archive to the rescue!

(for reference, I googled "eriance autoshotgun" and it was the first fucking result)

>>1806221
It's the pump action, bear in mind. Not hte super shotgun.

>>1806175
It's not done yet.

>>1806225
Technically, it's illegal to redistribute IWAD resources for use with a different IWAD, and idgames (the biggest repository of Doom shit anywhere) will give you shit if you do that.

It's why KDIZD didn't use any of the Doom 2 sprites for the shit it used like the Chaingunner, Hell Knight and Super Shotgun

>>1806228
>what
>it's the same engine on both, the only difference is the data in the .wad
>I don't know what you're trying to say
Okay, most mods are designed for Doom 2, but if you run them in ZDoom with Doom 1, it can occasionally spit out some fucked up errors about missing sprite rotations or other nonsense. I had an earlier beta of SmoothDoom that did this, because it had some new Chaingunner sprites but also referenced the old ones, which Doom 1 doesn't have. Hence, ZDoom will refuse to run because it thinks there are some "missing" sprites.

Also, towards >>1806225
Just run Doom 1 as the IWAD and run Doom 2 as a PWAD. Problem solved.

>>1806571
According to the author, the non-Doom support was experimental at best and made shitty levels.

If you want to make levels for Quake and stuff, just use the old versions.

>>1806587
> arcade cabinet
> PS3 controller

No

>>1806771
that was only because some overzealous person from the kdizd team contacted id for permission and of course they said no. if he'd kept his trap shut they would have turned a blind eye like always.

>>1806707
>>1806718
>>1806723
Sometimes you get shitty people who make maps and "don't care about the music" so you just get stuck with the default jams in the same order we're all familiar with.

Of course, this is what Jimmy's Jukebox was made for.

>>1806794
Sorry, but I absolutely cannot deal with a big flat panel with a big clunkly slow stick and big clunky buttons spaced far apart.

A dual analog controller with shoulder buttons works so much better in my own opinion. I feel that they're more precise and responsive.

>>1806802
>Sometimes you get shitty people who make maps and "don't care about the music"
yep, that's me! i guess you were the one arguing at me about it in the last thread.

>Playing Brutal Doom
>Find out there's a middle finger taunt button
>mfw

>>1806804
Yeah, the PS3 controller works very well with Doom. I also get the idea that Doom would suck balls with an arcade stick.

>>1806813

>>1806813
>FUCK YOU
>HAR HAR
>DIE DIEEEEEE
>RIP AND TEAR
2edgy4me

>>1806849
The Doom comic is edgy now?

What HUD mod is this? Found like two dozen different HUDs when searching for HUD or visor mods, but not this one

>>1806860
it always was

>>1806860
It's been always edgy, but Brutal Doom is an exaggeration of an exaggeration

>>1806868
>>1806865
The Doom comic is goofy on berserk packs. You would have to be 8 years old to take it seriously.

>>1806873
i know
but
https://twitter.com/idSoftware/status/492359373063471104


lel

>>1806861
Looks like complex doom's hud.

>>1806442

There are people who actually play gameplay mods with freelook off?

>>1806868
Shut the fuck up, what the fuck is your problem with BD????????
>I HATE BRUTAL DOOM, I HAVE NO ARGUMENTS WAAAAAHHHHHH
Give me ARGUMENTS, I have to know WHY you asshat hate this mod.

>>1806895
It's worth noting that Complex Doom's HUD is just the HUD from Accessories to Murder scribbled over in MSPaint.

>>1806905

Have you considered reading the fucking FAQ?

>>1806880
Doom 4 is not more edgy than Mortal Kombat.

>>1806904
i need my vertical mouse axis to make quick forward and backward runs. freelook removes too much of the player's agility.

>>1806914
to be fair the faq doesn't really say a great deal.

>>1806917

Well, that's fair.
I might as well make a few tweaks to accommodate people who play that way, then.

>>1806914
I have you fucking asshole, but what is wrong with iuronsights, reloading, much gore when everything is customizable???????????????????????

If you hate it, use another mod you dipshit

>>1806905
They just hate that it actually makes Doom good

>>1806920

It says more than enough, really.

Fuck off Donald / CZ /Sarias / Mark

>>1806940
Why do you think that it's always the exact same shitposter over and over again?
I'm pretty sure the mods are doing their jobs and the shitposters get banned for a long time

GZDoom users, which ambient light level setting do you use?

>>1806946
some IP address might get banned for a long time, yes.

>>1806924
wow, that was unexpected. i usually get sneered/laughed at for playing the old way with mouse walking.

>>1806946
Dynamic
IPs

>>1806958
Ok, what about proxies? Do the germans use proxies too?

>>1806953

It's just accessibility, really.
It's not really my place to try and force them to play something my preferred way, really. As a modder, if they wanna play something of mine in a different way (within reasonable expectations), I should try and make it so they don't have to do something they don't like/care for.