/vr/ - Retro Games

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NEWS
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-Doom 4 reveal! Well, kinda. Only those dudes who were actually at Quakecon got to see it firsthand, but here's a basic rundown of what happened there. It might not be terrible! http://pastebin.com/W8P7fdq3

-hobomaster22 is making a mod manager for Doom in the vein of Quake Injector, and has built-in /idgames support! It's pretty neat, give it a look. http://www.doomworld.com/vb/doom-general/69346-doom-frontend-development-beta/

-Here's a cool online radio that only plays Doom music, 24/7; feel free to listen if you're interested http://liquiddoom.net/doom

-Some anons did a 200 min. speedmap WAD and this is the result! http://www.doomworld.com/idgames/?id=17781 COMPLETELY VANILLA, tell us what you think!

-Wanna see John Romero deathmatching in 2014? Do you live in England? He will be present at Revival '14 on August 9, see more details here http://www.doomworld.com/vb/post/1283115; for reference, this happened at GDC http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLXkipPv0b4KMKE7z3WwlYYUCDLACNoYfE..

-Metroid Dreadnought IS OUT! - http://zandronum.com/forum/showthread.php?tid=4561&pid=61847#pid61847

-The Space Pirate got an update! Check the latest ver. here! https://drive.google.com/file/d/0BxbbtKR5bll_anFPaVhUQVZqcnM/edit?usp=sharing And be sure to check this tutorial http://youtu.be/mrFF8LCZw5Y [Embed] [Embed]

-HDoom has its 5th techdemo! happy now? http://www.best-ever.org/download?file=m12-hdoom-techdemo5.pk3

Mods that also got updated (these links include their respective download links for each mod, by the way)

Doom RPG (not the mobile game) - http://forum.zdoom.org/viewtopic.php?f=19&t=33292
Hideous Destructor - http://forum.zdoom.org/viewtopic.php?t=12973
Pirate Doom - http://forum.zdoom.org/viewtopic.php?t=32674
DoomRL Arsenal - http://forum.zdoom.org/viewtopic.php?t=37044
GMOTA - http://forum.zdoom.org/viewtopic.php?p=742401

ATTENTION! If you know about something news-worthy PLEASE reply to this so everyone can see it

OH MAN I LOVE TONY HAWK

>>1791236
Kyle pls

>>1791230
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this is getting better and better!

>>1791240
I'm not kyle

>>1791247
You are now.

The old thread wasn't in danger of dying out. Why make a new one so quickly?

>>1791252
kyle pls

>>1791256
Because you touch yourself at night.

Hey thread guy, can you warn before you make a new thread? Several times now I've accidentally in the old thread because I didn't know a new one was about to be made.

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you guys aren't helping us to forget him

FUCKING MAPMAKERS FUCK PUTTING TWO REVS IN A CROWDED ROOM FUCK YOU FUCK YOU FUCK YOU FUUUUUUUCKKKK YOUUUUUUUUUU

>>1791270
he'll be back

>>1791273
Someone's both agitated and can't beat them to the punch

>>1791280
I AM VERY VERY AGITATED. OH FUCK. THERE'S THREE GODDAMN REVS IN A CROWDED ROOM. THIS IS WHERE I DRAW THE LINE.

>>1791285
>only 3

>>1791285
>Only 3
Boy, you don't know the pain of facing 10 revenants in a map where you can't avoid rockets easy

>>1791209
>>1791227

Three years back on /tg/, we homebrewed a setting called Hail and Kill, which featured the Metallican order of paladins called the Painkillers, who ride on motorcycles and used chainsaw swords to fight for glory and maidens, opposed by the Blackened.
...basically, what I'm saying is expect a lot of references in this.
And yes, I am a huge fucking nerd.

>>1791216

Yeah, it's a Splatterhouse sound.

>>1791292
n-no, I don't, and I never want to.
Do you have a link to a good mapset with that?

>Low air stats
>Fast as fuck

Whoever decided on Doomguy's stats knew what they were doing

Well, I made some progress on Back to Saturn X with Project MSX. My thoughts so far:

Project MSX is fun. Really fucking fun. Guns feel great, you move real damn fast, you can throw some super grenades or do a punch so hard Ryu would be jelly. Also that super jump is sweet.
Also, it fits Back to Saturn X like a glove. This could be it's own damn game.
For the mapset, I dig it. The level design is non linear (and awesome), but I haven't got lost even once, and I'm using the vanilla minimap. Grabbing keys or hitting switches set you on the right track after you do them.

I'm having so much fun it hurts.

>>1791240
>>1791258

GAWD WHAT?! >:(

>Start working on a new map
>Get a quarter of it done, then run out of ideas
>Become obsessed with making minor improvements to what I already finished
>For over a year
>tfw I'm doomed to spend the rest of my life polishing and polishing the same few sections, yet never adding to it

>>1791312
pls kyle
kyle pls

>>1791321
I know that feeling.

>>1791321
How to fix this

1) Delete it
OR
2) Force yourself to do other things

If you made a thing then you should have a theme.
If you have a theme then start adding things to it nigga

>new thread
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at least try

>>1791321
Then say that the map is finished and move on to the next one.

>>1791325
I'll fight you over the internets I will. >:(

xth for getting monster names wrong

>>1791340
No, fight me

>>1791273
>>1791285
>>1791301

you poor little boy

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=no27m6Hq8J8
(watch out for min. 6:30)

Well, just tried Hideous. While I appreciate the concept, I'm not sure that this is the engine I want to experience it in.

>>1791351
As annoying as Archviles are, I appreciate the originality and uniqueness of their design.

>>1791293
>heavy metal adventures
>blasting guitar
>dismembering enemies
>cute grill
>sweet melee
I know exactly why I have this boner

>>1791340
what server kyle?
kyle pls

>>1791407
No he's fighting me

>>1791419
manthony pls

why is lobsticle course so hard?

Holy shit I'm listening to Carmack's 2013 keynote and he sounds like someone from South Park
But still I love that motherfucker

>tfw posted in the wrong thread
>>>1791430

>>1791427
hmmm

>>1791458
Terrible

>>1791458
why

>>1791458
I recognize that level set.

I still don't really think that player sprite looks good at all.

>>1791458
>That art style shattering sprite

Pig disgusting.

So about that crazy melee sword mod that the guy is making

What kind of sword is the girl going to use?

>>1791504
I still laugh everytime someone posts that.

>>1791492
>>1791504
Is it the higher resolution that does it, or is it the animation?

Actually, who here even bothers with skins? A lot of mods don't have support for them, after all.

>>1791527
Katana

>>1791529
I think it's a mix of both personally, just doesn't look so good.
I like the concept of demon girls, don't get me wrong.

But I think I'd prefer a normal sprited one instead of screenshotted sprites of a girl from another game.

>>1791527

>>1791530
>Blah blah blah enchanted blade
>Blah blah blah demonic powers
>Blah blah blah corrupts the wielder

Something new please.

>>1791537
>>1791530
Thank you.

Was wondering since the different sword sprites were throwing me for a spin.

>>1791538
why don't you make something new

>>1791538
Hell we need more holy swords, and not like soul calibur where they turn out to be just as bad in their own way, strait up holy weapons

>>1791543
Lack of talent, and incapablity of developing talent, I whole heartedly admit my worthlessness

>>1791545
I love Holy swords.

They usually have neat designs too.

>>1791538

The goal is to be a pastiche of 80s anime and 90s metal, so if you're expecting new things you are going to be sorely disappointed, sorry.

>>1791545

I could go with holy, though, if you guys think it's more interesting.
There's all sorts of "swords of light" talked about in power metal, and I'll admit I've been grooving to Ensiferum as of late.

>>1791558
Have two swords
Final battle is clearly when the person uses both swords at once

>>1791558
If you're killing demons, then it's only fitting that you use a sword designed for the task.

>>1791558
Could have a Holy and Unholy sword with different combos or mechanics or something.

If I had to pick one though it would definitely be Holy.

>>1791558
I say keep it demonic, it is a doom mod after all

>>1791563
Some characters do good with unholy swords.

Like look at Ryu Hayabusa.
He gets that evil sword that drains life from enemies.

Or you could go with those kinda Muramasa jibberyjoo that anime likes to pull with bloodthirsty swords.

Strap a flamethrower to the sword, set demons on fire while cutting them.

>>1791571
>Not strapping shotguns onto your sword so you can shootstab

>>1791558
I'd like to see more holy weapons/warriors
Plus her special attacks are white

>Ensiferum
Muh negro

I need to add more over the top shit to my doom. What wads would be good for this?

>>1791578
Russian Overkill takes over the top to its logical conclusion.

>>1791558
Have unholy sword and holy hammer, like that cover

>>1791549
This faggot cock-loving shitlord isn't me.

>>1791543

I will, and quite easily might I add, since all's it is, is lore, which is writing.

>>1791585
>sword does super-fast combos and chains
>hammer does heavy single-strikes
>sword builds up combo meter for massive damage
>hammer charges up for MSX-style explosive rocket-punch
>can charge up hammer while swinging sword
hmmm

>>1791589
It doesn't sound like anyone would really use the hammer when you think about it.

Why use it when you can be doing sword combos on everything and then just pull out the hammer for it's charged attack?

>>1791589
I'd prefer cool sword and power gauntlets.

Basically Alastor and Ifrit from DMC.

Beowulf and Gilgamesh are shit

>>1791561
>>1791563
>>1791564
>>1791565
>>1791567
>>1791576

Hm. I guess the general direction is split. I'll need to think about this for a bit.

>>1791585
>>1791589

I like this idea, but I'll echo >>1791606 in that it seems like it might be a little bit clunky.
Still, it might be interesting to try?

>>1791586

If you wouldn't mind being interested in doing a short write-up, I wouldn't mind reading it. Since this is all pre-pre-pre-pre-alpha, I'm still setting things in place.
Pretty much the only things I'd really written for lore is in the design document.
http://pastebin.com/mcZxLcpY
I wanted to solidify the gameplay first.

Posting charcola's sketches of Jung

>making the cyberdemon and spider mastermind fight in Gotcha!

FUCK YEAR

Maybe you coule have a single blade that you channel holy and unholy power via your combos

>>1791619
Gotta keep those shark teeth white n shiny

>>1791321
>>tfw I'm doomed

YOU SURE ARE

Still think she looks like Haruhi in dungarees.

>>1791589
Simon Belmont?

>>1791618
>>1791567 here, I was only explaining that unholy swords could work.

I'm a full supporter of Holy swords and FUCKHUGE swords.

>download /pol/.wad
>expect nothing but "LOLNIGGERSFAGGOTSJOOOOS XD"
>get REALLY good level design
>amazing final boss

>>1791619
>>1791625
Dem sharkteeth.

So kawaii and I say that unironically.

>>1791636
It really has no right being as good as it is, on the subject I'm looking for ideas for outside the box final bosses

>>1791638
I know she's 9000% waifu material

>>1791558
>anime and metal
so like bastard!! ?

>>1791619
>>1791625
... I always tought that girl was just a random character that had the genral traits the modder want in his character.

>>1791645

Bastard!!, Cybernetics Guardian, M.D. Geist, yeah, stuff like that. Only in this instance it's pretty black-and-white morality, what with the demons being bad and the player being good.
Also not anime but Guilty Gear.

>>1791619
>>1791625

Welp not even an alpha out and I'm already getting fan-art. This is wonderful, thank you!

>>1791636
>Ade a burger :DDD

>>1791618
have the tree sword be the demonic katana, while the chainsaw replacement could be a holy greatsword. the bfg could be duel wielding them, with their reacting energies creating huge energy blasts.

as for the berserker pack, make it give the sword shockwaves, granting the sword a little more range

>>1791589

If someone doesn't do this. I will, alt primaries could be interesting

>>1791659
>Holy Greatswords
>Ever
I know why I have this figurative boner.

>>1791618
Okay then, here's a my re-edit. I assume you're going for something along the lines of "Average girl turned into survivalist fighting machine", with an East Asian theme.

CHARACTER: Jung Hae-Lin, a young girl who grew up in the country-side with a yearning for adventure. As her parents were farmers, they needed her for help around the house and to do her part to contribute, though being a thrill-seeking child, she often got into more trouble than she could handle. Unfortunately one day, when she was 17, after many previous years of disobeying her parents and searching for fun and excitement, she had left in the middle of the night with a boy she knew and had liked.

Thinking they had avoided getting into trouble as they drove back to her house at sun-rise, the boy she was with mistakenly dozed off, sending the car into a ravine. She was thrown from the car, landing battered and bruised on the side of the road, though her boyfriend was unlucky, as she saw the car in flames when she awoke, without any sight of him. Years go by as she struggles with the psychological trauma of what had happened with her parents new, stricter reign over her, before one night, she happens upon the visage of her long-lost boyfriend, leading her out of her room once again. She decides to follow the specter, unto which she is led into a secret underground den not far off where she finds an ancient blade, which is in perfect shape strangely enough. No sooner than she picks the blade up, she feels a thirst grow from within her and blacks out. She awakes in a pool of blood her thirst quenched, her parents in pieces, and the sky alight with crimson sky and the howling moans of strange spectral creatures. She is unsure why this has all happened to her, but she is on a quest to discover why she was granted such a strange apetite.

CONTINUED

For some reason I just can't reload my weapons while playing brutal doom or project MSX, anybody knows what's wrong?

>>1791671
Did you check if you have the button configured?

>>1791671
in customize controls, scroll all the way down to custom keys

>>1791671
Go to the bottom of the control screen, there should be another reload button, bind that one.

>>1791673
yep, I binded it to the key R, I also tried with other keys with no avail.

>>1791669
2grimdark

>>1791680
Brutal doom uses it's own special reload, check the bottom of the controls

>>1791618
>>1791669

(Basically the spirit her boyfriend, who is revealed to be an angel, wanted to save her from the apocalypse that was coming so granted to her the knowledge of a weapon that would be capable of defeating them, a hidden Oni blade that requires the blood of those slain to increase its power but also keep it sated - this ties in with the meter mechanic where the more she kills/combos the more powerful you get)

The sword will be revealed to be made from the bones of an Oni that was slain by a Samurai, who then requested a legendary blacksmith to create the blade from the bones as both a trophy and a relic with which to more easily combat them.

>>1791653

>>1791678
>>1791674
Oh, I didn't realized there were more options at the bottom, thank you guys!

>>1791689
Shit's dumb as fuck, hopefully term uses his own, much better story instead of this trite

>>1791669
>>1791689
>design document specifies not 100% serious
>rebel child
>traumatic history
>murders parents
>killed boyfriend for fuel
nnnnnnope

>>1791682
You don't read too much mythology, do you?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amanojaku

>Sometimes impersonates her by wearing her flayed skin

>>1791690
Thanks based drawfriend, Manthony is it?

>>1791702
Charcola

>>1791702
Nononono, I don't draw!

>>1791707
>>1791712
Oops, my bad!

>>1791694
>much better story instead of this trite

http://pastebin.com/mcZxLcpY
>She's literally eating fruit to gain power Ala Dragonball Z...

You're a fucking idiot.

>>1791669
>>1791689
this story was bad but it gave us this picture so it's bad-good

>>1791698
Lol, you think I was being serious?

I was being tongue-in-cheek and campy as shit, why the hell do you think I included Oni's and angels and shit?

If you want me to actually be serious though...

>>1791715
You're

just

jelly

>>1791707
did you mean charcoal

>>1791707
>Charcola
I can't help but imagine a charcoal grilled burger with a Coca-Cola
Yummy name~

>>1791718
>I-I was only pretending! It's okay!

>>1791716
Why does it feel like all these comments are coming from the same butthurt faggot who's trying desperately to prove me wrong, lol? It literally took 24 minutes to write that (that is, if you go by the time between my post and his request, there was around 4 - 5 minutes before I actually saw his post probably meaning it only took 19-20 minutes to write that up).

SO!

Seeing as Blaz's sword is eventually gonna be a brighter, shinier color I've been trying to think of how the powered form can be more distinct looking.

How about it turns into a fucking axe? Still more or less the same cleaving action, but if you hold the fire button and wind it up a bit, you can throw the fucking thing like a boomerang, which would work like the boomerang sub weapon, just with a bigger radius and bouncy

what if she was secretly ukranian

>>1791729
>It literally took 24 minutes to write that
It sure shows

>>1791730
Powered form is glowing, that's already kind of distinct.

Work on the other characters now, Blaz just needs balancing

>>1791730
I'd rather not to be honest, but it's your mod so w/e.
Imo, just make it so it has an aura thing or some shit, maybe more adorned?

>>1791728
>I-I was only pretending!

Pretending what? I didn't say shit about pretending faggot.

I was writing characters with an origin and a purpose, not some stream-lined farmer girl who randomly practices martial arts and meditation and then eats suicide tree fruits to become fucking Turles.

But hey, who am I to ruin your fun, if you want to go along with your DBZ Tree of Might storyline, I don't care, not like I'll be playing it anyway.

>>1791736

Not gonna work on the other characters til Blaz is done, and this is what the new sword is gonna look like, and for my shitty eyes that's not distinct enough

>>1791739

It may be my mod but I'm not keen on the idea of upsetting folks over a whim.

>>1791735
>It literally took 24 minutes to write that

Lol, yea, it does show, that I put more effort into than you certainly did.

>>1791747
>>1791740
>implying I'm the guy who made the mod

>>1791746
That sword looks weird. I think it may be the perspective and that the dark side is a bit too dark but it just looks like a block of styrofoam with a handle for me.

>>1791751
It looks a bit too squeaky clean, yeah. Like a toy sword.

>>1791618
>>1791716
>>1791728
>>1791735
>>1791750

90% of the negative responses have been from macro-posters.

Samefag detected.

Shit, I really don't even care if you don't like it, just don't be such a pathetic bitch about the fact that I said your weaboo fanfiction sucks.

>>1791636

>download archie.wad which was refered to as "/g/.wad"
>Literally some faggot ranting about archlinux users in .wad form, complete with unskippable dialogues, some sort of plot, barely any action, and lots of half-baked gimmicks

What the fuck was that shit, honestly

>>1791746
Well, if you want to turn the power sword into a power axe you got to answer a few questions.

1) What will the transition be like?
2) What will the axe do differently besides a boomerang toss?
3) What would the axe blade look like?

I'm actually not for the boomerang toss if only because it would make the Boomerang seem like a completely pointless subweapon.

You could have a Boomerang Axe toss but you need to have some big downsides to make the boomerang seem viable, or buff up the boomerang to make it seem worthwhile still.

>>1791618
Have it be dual weilding. Left hand sword right hand hammer.

anyone have m-more imps?

>>1791757
nope

>>1791746
Not a fan of the crossguard so much but I am fine with straight blades.

>>1791751
>>1791754

Well it's a wip Mike's working on, who went for a Conan/metal album cover style, personally I want a classic vidya broadsword design like the fighter's sword from ALTTP for Blaz's sword, as in it gets a little wider towards the tip.

>>1791759

It'd be a morphing sorta animation similiar to the old Ruby Wand -> Spike staff, or something cooler if Shivers can do it, though like I said I'm just throwing ideas out here, from the sounds of things I'll keep the powered sword the way it is

>>1791757
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gd9OhYroLN0

>>1791758
It also has some proto-existentialism, and most important it preach by example the dangers of being a stubborn faggot online.

I find it fun to play only once.

>>1791767
That shit's my jam.

>>1791764
Well really I am fine with an Axe.
Axes are cool.

Could always have a sword turn into an axe, worked for Astyanax.

Has anyone made a .wad based on Legends of the hidden temple? Id love to play a level with that asthetic and the temple run music booming on

>>1791764
I like the design of that sword.
Especially the crossguard.

Anyways mate there's nothing wrong with a power axe, but it should look fancypants special since it's going to be powering up Blaz's everything.

>>1791757

I'm just kind of watching the thread, really, and talking to Kegan about weapon ideas.
But if you want to think I'm mad about you telling me my story sucks when even I said it's barely thought out then okay?

For what it's worth I thought the incorporation of eastern lore was clever, but it's definitely not very fitting towards the direction I'm going in.

>>1791780
Honestly that sounds like a great place to plunk Blaz down into

>>1791762
>Top red line has standard color-mixing for red to blue transition
>2 bottom red lines have hard-edged transitions between colors

Lol, did this faggot really just edit his image in paint to prove himself right? holy fucking shit.

>>1791783

I LOVE the design of the fighter's sword honestly, the hilt, crossguard, and blade. and knowing shivers he'd make the animation crazy looking.

I'm just brainstorming and sorting out crap after taking my "ideeuhs fer blaz" bucket and turning it upside down, dumping everything out all at once.

>>1791790
>>1791762
Mods, may you and this entire bullshit argument?

>>1791761

>>1791785
If you want a good example of a well-written, tongue-in-cheek Eastern Asian themed demon invasion story, just look at Shadow Warrior 2013.

>>1791801
NEVER.

>>1791806
Imp boobs are great

>>1791806
you're making yholl-chan jelly

>>1791758
it was meant to be a parody of /g/ i guess
i think it focussed too much on one aspect
also /pol/.wad set the bar too high.

I liked to play is slaughter maps and now I'm tired of them, but non slaughter maps just look so boring now I don't know what to do

>>1791812
Which other boards have good wad potential?

>>1791817
/mlp/
/k/
/b/

>>1791815
Try boss rush maps?

>>1791818
>/k/
Picked up a >clip

>>1791813
Too cute, I'm not even mad.

>>1791818
Why does /mlp/ sound like it would be the most terrifying?

>>1791817
/an/

Insects. Insects everywhere.

post webms

>>1791820
Ooh what's that?

>>1791828
You know why

>>1791828
I've been there. /b/ is much worse.

>>1791828
There exists the possibility that you'll get killed by cute, lovable ponies and your penis will fall off in protest of your utter unmanliness.

I'd be frightened too. "RIP Doomguy, killed by a Fluttershy."

>>1791835

Okay.

>>1791835
okay

>>1791843
>He outruns the rocket with the recoil.
Everytime.

>>1791843
>tfw wanted to make the shotgun into a good webm
>tfw no good times to ever show it off

>>1791837
>>1791839
Strictly speaking there are plenty of monsters to use, changelings, dragons, manticors, hydras, chimeras, minotaurs, whatever Tirek is (he might be a legit demon)

>>1791818

/x/

>creepypasta wad

there has to be something like this already, right?

>>1791851
Buttpain?

>>1791851
Slendermen could be the archviles greys for imps, chupacrbra pinkys?

>>1791851
Yes. Term's done a few video's about them.
[spoilers]The wads suck.[/spoilers]

>>1791851

Buttpain is very good at being /x/, imo
It's built up a lot like a creepypasta, right down to the old familiar maps of your childhood
Just play on Zandronum

>>1791849
How do you know all that? HE'S ONE OF THEM!!

Imagine if Doom 4 had a tool to convert Doom 1/2 wads into a file format. Replacing the textures and enemies. If the map uses regular Doom enemies they would be replaced by their Doom 4 counterpart. If not, it would just port over the standard 2D sprites.

Imagine that. That'd make me buy the game for sure. It wouldn't just be Doom 4, it'd be every single Doom mod for the last 20 years! In HD and 60fps.

>>1791851
Buttpain is good at that imo.

>>1791746
>>1791764
>>1791792
That sword looks really weird.
Why dont you play Witchaven to know how a sword should actually look like ingame?

>>1791870

That would be amazing.
It would never be done.

>>1791873

Witchaven is good for realistic weapon designs.
GMOTA is not supposed to be realistic.

>>1791870
The main problem would be WADs with Decorate / ACS / DeHacked / custom textures / custom flats.
It wouldn't work.

However, just simple WADs with custom maps, that'd be great.
Man, I do hope that Doom 4 will have custom editors, so we can modify everything, just like Doom / Quake / HL.

>>1791843
What mod is that?

Is there any confirmation that D44M will feature abstract level design? (Like the originals)

>>1791890
Russian Overkill.
>>1791892
No. Only comment on level design was that it seemed linear, but that might just be the beta they chose to show.
There were some comments about lava and tunnels and stuff, so maybe?

Is there a way to run Doom RL on console mode with Fullscreen?

>>1791873

I want Blaz to have an exaggerated, cartoonish looking broadsword. Kuros is the one that's going to be wielding a longsword, and even then I'm gonna try to give it a slightly unique/outlandish look to that as well.

>>1791931
>broadsword
>longsword

Must
not
sperg

>>1791908
Change the config file maybe?

>>1791940

I'm going by vidya terms you dongus, Calm your tits.

>>1791849
I've seen an mlp mod for Chex Quest, you play as Rarity and the enemies are Changelings. As far as I remember, it isnt too bad.

>>1791946

YES WELL SORRY BUT THIS IS THE CLIP/MAGAZINE OF THE SWORD WORLD

>>1791946
He has no tits to calm.
Skeletons have no tits.

I definably see id software in the 90s as the beatles of game developers

>>1791940
>>1791950
Go ahead. I'd like to know.

>>1791964
>that john carmack's red eyes
Another evidence that he is an alien.

>>1791969

Okay, well, let's see here.
Pictured is a broadsword--also known as the basket-hilted sword. These swords are actually the descendants of the rapier, and got their name due to being like a rapier (complete with the fancy hand-guard) but with a very broad blade. When you see a typical fantasy sword, this is usually not what they're referring to.

A longsword is, well, a long sword. Like, really long. Two-handed-sword long. Also known as zweihanders, though that's an explicitly german term--no guesses for what they were called in other nations of the world longsword. When you see a typical fantasy sword, this is also usually not what they're referring to.

Now, see, when you imagine a dude like Conan, Link, or etc, picking up a sword and wielding it one-handed, the sword they're usually wielding is an "arming sword". These are the swords of knights, so named because they were paired with armor. All of the typical features of a generic fantasy sword are here--straight double-edged blade, cruciform hilt, looks cool when posing, etc.

Using the three terms interchangeably is the easiest way to troll a historical weapons nerd, and (as mentioned before) is the clip/magazine of the sword world. Just like how a clip is not a magazine and a magazine is not a clip, a broadsword is not a longsword is not an arming sword.

>>1791995

So what if I make a mod later on where the character fights with a clip-fed broadsword?

GODDAMNIT SHIVERS MY SIDES CANNOT TAKE MUCH MORE OF THIS.

>>1791997

I would actually like to see that.

Guys. Why are you claiming that Brutal Doom is bad? Not baiting. Just curious.

>>1792002

Have you considered reading the FAQ?

>>1791998
2cute
>>1792002
>Not baiting
really hard to believe since we have this discussion every thread and it very rarely turns ok

>>1792002
I believe you, but as >>1792004 said, read the FAQ.

http://www.doomworld.com/vb/post/1289696

>>1791651
>Cybernetics Guardian
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fsPHqLFtJl4

>>1791835

Was Polished Skull ever updated or is it dead?
How about Eriguns?
Trailblazer?

>>1792142
Haven't heard anything about Polished Skull in awhile.

>How about Eriguns?
Wasn't Eriguns considered finished awhile ago? I thought it was just a simple weapon sprite replacement pack.

>Trailblazer?
No word on that either. Marty may have some information.

>>1792153
>Nothing on Polished Skull
Darn, I really liked that one.

>Wasn't Eriguns considered finished awhile ago?
I have no idea, haven't heard any word on it since Xaser said that he was doing something cool with the double rocket launcher.

Then the Auto shotgun sprite came out and heard nothing since then.
If I knew how to do anything with sprites I'd just update Eriguns with the Autoshotgun myself since those sprites were really great.

>No word on Trailblazer
Darn again.

Well how about Project MSX? I hear the new version will have a Glaive and that has me excited.

I am sure it has been said but so far the info on BethesDOOM is looking pretty damn good for the most part. I am actually shocked they decided to make the game this way.

It would be great if they release a CE with the previous game like Doom 3 did.

>>1792159
>Well how about Project MSX? I hear the new version will have a Glaive and that has me excited.
MagSigmaX posted here like thrice. He hasn't posted, at least not with his trip, for a good chunk of time. MSX hasn't updated yet, and it'll probably take some time till it does.

>Playing Doom for my first time
>Not save scumming
>E2M6
>Keep dying at the same "green vines" room, assume it's because all the enemies are gang raping me too fast
>Realize after multiple deaths that I'm actually being crushed by a dropping ceiling that I didn't realize existed

Between that and having to pick up a berserker pack to open up a wall to progress (dat shit ain't logical), I'm not sure I dig this level.

The false exit trap was pretty cool, though.

>>1792186
>a dropping ceiling
Wait what? That kind of trap exists in Doom? I thought it's impossible because of technical limit.

>>1792226
Just watched the video. Cool. I only played Doom 2 so I didn't know that.

>>1792108

Can I get some protips/quick routes for Map 10 of Doom 2?

Of all these years I've played Doom, this map always hammers me on Ultra-Violence. I always enter the level on relatively low health, and I always run out of ammo about halfway through from the sheer amount of fucking everything.

So yeah, do you guys know how to make that experience a little easier to stomach?

Is 'always run' feature exists in vanilla Doom's option menu? I can't remember.

>>1792231
How the fuck are you even supposed to fight those if they come in large groups?
Or ambushes?

>>1792235
No it is not.

>>1792232
Go to the blue key room and snag that, use the secret to take a short cut to the yellow key room and snag that.
Take another secret that teleports you to the Cyberdemon room next to an invulnerability sphere.
Make a mad dash for the exit.

>>1792231
Damn, this thing got updated again? I gotta redownload.
Even if I rarely play it.
And don't really like it.

>>1792231
what wad?

>>1792257
Looks like Hideous Destructor.

>>1792230
Doom 2 had The Crusher, though. The Crusher is always the most silent way to eliminate Spider Mastermind.

>>1792257
Mapset is eviltech, gameplay mod is Hideous Destructor

>>1792239
They're pretty weak defensively. One rocket, five shotgun shells, one well-placed grenade, less than half a ZM66 mag, any of those is enough to take one out. They also don't always do that hueg deathray attack. Most of the time they spit relatively normal projectiles. You'll still get fucked up by them, but not nearly as badly as the huge laser of exploding death.

>>1792283
What's that HUD appears sometimes when using shotgun? Is that some kind of ADS-ish crosshair?

>>1792290
Not that anon but that's your crosshair. It only appears when you stay still.

>>1792283
I still wish he would make the fucking grenade "weapon" have no bobbing.

>>1792290
It's pretty much ADS, a scope and a crosshair all in one. Instead of zooming the entire view in like every other mod does, the rifles only zoom in the crosshair when using the scope. It'll only appear if you stand still or are moving very slowly, and the weapon's recoil is greatly reduced. The Liberator battle rifle kicks so hard that it's nearly useless if you don't stand still while using it, and forget about the chaingun.

>>1792269
The GEP gun takedown is always the most silent way to eliminate Manderley

Any news of anyone putting those softdisk source codes to use? (Hovertank 3D, Catacomb abyss, etc.)

>>1792235
go into the .cfg and set joyb_speed to 29

http://a.pomf.se/fvyuvz.webm

Running Doom on a Raspberry Pi. This sucks. I get like 20fps. At least it's Doom.

>>1792376

>>1792394
What? It looks fucking awesome.

>>1791374
I would like it more if it wasn't so ugly. A sim game could work but it needs to have that graphical aspect to it otherwise you're not bandaging wounds, you're holding down a button till your health stops going down (or you weapon just disapears until you can fire it again - if you can't make good reload anims than dont' have reload at all)

I dislike when slaughtermaps are all about numbers and size.

Stuff like Hell Revealed, Scythe E3, Alien Vendetta, Kama Sutra, and Speed of Doom are fun as heck. Most maps in these sets have monsters within 3 digits, with 4 digit counts being rare. Map sizes are often still small enough to be completable within 10-20 minutes on average.

But the large maps like from Sunder, Slaughterfest 20xx, Holy Hell, etc feel more tedious and overdone, especially when you see numbers go as far as 5 digits. There are some gems, and the level design in some maps are actually quite impressive, but its really not my kind of slaughtermap style.

>>1792376

Jesus CHRIST that looks hideous.

>>1792435

Get out.

>>1791813
Who drew this? It's adorable.

>>1792376
>http://a.pomf.se/fvyuvz.webm
Did he just jump at 0:19?

>>1791813
Is there a mod that makes the PE shoot three souls at a time?

>>1791640
It lies in wait as the best weapon in the game's icon, and it ends up a living version of that weapon.

>>1792435

The models themselves look like crap, and seriously, doom can't look good in 3D without some serious work. The fact that sprites only move in 8 directions makes model behavior look REALLY WEIRD.

Also seeing those bodies fall down in slow motion is fucking boring. I much prefer the original extra gory detailed sprite deaths

>>1792376
Honestly, I feel 3D models for enemies would only work with ragdoll physics.

Death Animations on 3D models always looked off to me.

>>1792320
I want you to go in and go in and go in and go in like the US marshals and his 3 daughters.

>>1792448
Your mom looks hideous. Do you know better models pack?

>>1792376
I really wish doomsday and Risen3D would go away.

>>1791991
Fucker doesn't age, what more evidence do you need?

>>1792474
Sprites > any models that are available

The Hires textures are shitty, too.

>>1792475
Its Zandronum

>>1792447
i usually think the ones that exceed 10000 monsters just do it so they can say "MORE MONSTERS THAN NUTS.WAD!!!!11"

So doomers, will Doom 4 bring in a slight bit more activity in the name of hype?

>>1792479
Well shit.

>>1792478
So do you know hi-hres sprites that look better than that?

>>1792484
Default sprites look better than that.

>>1792485
No, they are too pixelated and have only 8 sides..

>>1792487
Which says a lot about how shitty the attempts at hi-res sprites have been.

>>1792489
That's why I use 3d models.

>>1792474
>Your mom

Really?

>>1792481
Since Doom 4 discussion is not allowed in this thread(mod deletes it), I don't know.

>>1792493
Default Sprites are better than those ugly pieces of vomit, aswell

>>1792494
Yep. Even worse than low-res textures and sprites.

>>1792495
Too bad this thread isn't in /vg/, /v/ is just too much of a cesspool to discuss doom 4 there.

>>1792480
Having read a few slaughterfest 20xx threads, this is actually true for some mappers.

>>1792232
let's play map10.

get the shotgun and the chaingun, then do the barracks, you get plenty of ammo from there.

know where the secret passages between the main rooms are, and which corridors not to go down to avoid letting the 4 pain elementals out until you have the ammo to deal with them.

if you can reach the south room where the plasma gun and rocket launcher can be found, you should be fine.

it's much harder if you don't know where the secrets are, unfortunately. you just have to learn it, really.

Man, Doom feels so sexy with webms.

>>1792507

>>1792386
Raspberry Pi is shit for graphics; you MIGHT be able to run a server on it, but good fucking luck running anything more than an X server.

>b-but some faggot on reddit said the gpu was great!?!
It's not. The Broadcom SoC in the Pi does have a lot of die space dedicated to the "GPU" but all of that's for hardware H.264 decoding.

what are your favorite autolod wads? ie. enhancement mods that don't alter vanilla gameplay?

i'm looking for some good gore wads.

>>1792510
know which rooms have large groups of monsters as well, and get the bigger weapons before you have to face them.

also use your fists. there are two secret berserk boxes.

>>1792524
>autoload *

>>1792525

>>1792525

>>1792532

>>1792507
>>1792510
>>1792525
>>1792532
>>1792539

judging by the number of webms its taking you over 10 minutes to beat the level that is quite a long time

>>1792545
Refueling Base can easily be completed in less than 5 minutes if you know the quickest route, and arent too fussed about 100% kills/secrets.

>>1792539
oh, how unfortunate, it didn't quite get the end

>>1792471
And we lose the vaccine

>>1792552
alas, an orphan.

>>1792545
>>1792549
indeed, i was not playing particularly aggressively, and also trying for 100% without abusing the automap.

i don't think the original poster wanted to see a speedrun, as he said he was having trouble beating it. so i took a fairly safe route, apart from the suicide rush to the chaingun and pain elemental at the start.

>>1792559
and just for the sake of completeness, here is the demo.

http://temp-host.com/download.php?file=fz42ti

>>1791949
Well this would be about the board not the show itself, because the show and its fans are 2 very different animals, again try to think of making it like the /pol/ wad

>>1792559
Actual suicide rush is the rush for BFG. Anyway here's faster way to beat this map, though trip for berserk was unnecessary because a single shot with BFG and little chaingun fire could do all the work.

>>1792672
lol this is like on the easiest difficulty tho

>>1792376
>that imp falling the wrong way as it dies

that's one of the few things i have against 3D enemies, the deaths need more work/feedback

>>1791309
Some of the BTSX mappers were talking about actually making a mapset for Project MSX to really go with the jumping and all the increased speed.

>>1792672
Refueling base was always a weird level for me you can skip like 75% of the level

So for the Midnight bliss mod where you turn demons into their HDoom forms, I've decided to go with the Buddy cop idea, the bubbly arch angel Soliverna and the Playful Succubus Nikea, both united in trying to make hell less horrible, and introducing the most receptive to the joys of their new forms, in coop should they be able to sex eachother?

>>1792685
You can do that in a lot of Doom 2 maps.

Tricks and Traps, The Pit, Refueling Base, Circle of Death (this one requires breaks), Factory, Downtown, Industrial Zone, Suburbs, Courtyard, Citadel, Gotcha, and Chasm

It's one of the reasons why Doom 2's level design is so great

>>1792692
If they did, would there be a reason to play the mod besides just doing that?

>>1792672
I enjoyed the cyberdemon managing to teleport right in front of you, twice.

>>1792695
>The Pit
Sadly not much of this tedious level is skippable.

>Circle of Death (this one requires breaks)
How do you mean?

I remember in v1666 you could edge around the metal block with the backpack inside it but v19 fixed that.

>>1792695
>It's one of the reasons why Doom 2's level design is so great

Doom 2 has good level design on its own but when you look at ultimate doom episodes 1 and 3 and some levels of 2 and 4 it doesnt even come close

>>1792705
The entire upper level is skipable, that outside circle thing can be ignored, 2 of the 3 doors past the BK door are skipable.
>>1792708
E4M2 and E4M6 are the only Doom 1 levels with better level design than Doom 2. Doom 2 improves on Doom 1's design in almost every way except for the visuals in Sandy's maps - which you can mostly credit Tom Hall for his D1 maps looking better than his D2 maps since he was working with his shapes. Layouts are more open, vertical movement is more realized, and map dynamics are better incorporated.

>>1792685
Sandy Peterson and Tom Hall maps were pretty nonlinear. Romero and McGee maps werent quite as nonlinear.

>>1792697
So you can double team the newly minted monstergirls obviously

>>1792705
You can still do that jump and walk around the side, also a teleporter opens up that lets you skip getting the BK and raising the bridge to get the RK by teleporting you to a ledge so you can jump to the RK

>>1792708
I feel Sandy Peterson improved in Doom 2, at least gameplay-wise.

His doom 1 maps that are entirely his really werent as fun to play, IMO.

>>1792705
>Sadly not much of this tedious level is skippable.

What are you talking about? You can easily skip at least half of it.

>>1792708
>Ultimate Doom Episodes 1-3
>Hallways
>Most height variation confined to + or - 256 at most.
>Amazing Level Design
Oh wait I forgot people here actually think Hellbound was worth something beyond having a few good looking levels and didn't play like complete garbage

>>1792705
>Sadly not much of this tedious level is skippable
>tedious
The Pit is one of the best IWAD levels and really showcases the benefit of outside the box area connections.

>>1792729
I meant that you still have to get the yellow key from the far side of the map and come all the way back. There's no way to bypass the yellow door.

I know a lot of map09 are side areas that you don't have to go into, but that's not what I mean by "skip".

Sorry I realise I was unclear.

>>1792734
There is no way to bypass the blue OR yellow doors in Refueling Base

>>1792732
To be fair, The Pit does have a few areas that serve no purpose other than to waste time.

>>1792750
So does almost ever Doom 1 level and half of Doom 2's levels
>Optional content is bad

When I take the whim to run through Doom II, The Pit is where I am brought to a halt. "Oh, it's this map. I can't be bothered any more."

>>1792762
I like the Pit. And Optional Areas arent bad.

The optional areas in the Pit however are utilised in a way that could easily mislead an unaware player into thinking its required, though. Hence time wasting.

>>1792767
Same with any Sandy citybox level, most of E2 (particularly E2M2 and E2M7), all of refueling base, and most of the Chasm

>>1792773
I didnt say it was the only level that did it.

>>1791801
The HDoom imps always remind me of Sally Acorn for whatever reason.

>>1792518
It's my only computing solution for the time being, phone aside. It's complicated.

>>1792732
If the yellow doors were switched to require the blue key instead, it'd be a great map.

You'd have that well-interconnected varied-height main section, with two optional setpiece battles giving large weapons as rewards.

But the "fallopian tubes" section drags on forever, and getting the yellow key is a chore.

Anyone got the latest "So you wanna play some fucking DOOM" pic?

>>1792715
>Layouts are more open, vertical movement is more realized, and map dynamics are better incorporated
This is exactly how I feel about Doom 2 as well. And I mean, there are 32 levels there, there are bound to be some bad ones and I think people get so hung up on the ones they really don't like. That, and it's true that D2 maps are a little "goofier" than E2/M3 with the occasional gimmick like Tricks and Traps that aren't trying to be anything other than arcade-style challenges.

>>1792798
Here you go anon!

>>1792820

Thanks mang.

>>1792820
Espi lost his arm after SiD, he only played Doom one handed he never mapped after it. Everyone is still a faggot for not being as awesome as Espi was though.

>>1792795
>the YK area drags on forever
It can be completed in 40 seconds not speedrunning

>>1792831

I'll correct that next update, then, thanks.

>>1792852
You might want to mention how Espi did shit like come up with a complex 3d structure in vanilla then stuck that structure in a corner of a map where no one would ever see it unless they had light amp goggles just because he could. Because that's just how Espi rolled

>>1792820
>>1792831
What were the things in SiD that were considered absolutely impossible?

>>1792874

Lowering pits into darkness, seemingly-3D structures, foggy areas...things impossible in vanilla.

>>1792874
There is a 3d effect in SiD that involves sector references to create a room over room illusion in vanilla. It shouldn't work because in Doom if you can see the flat it will bleed over the untextured sides. 3d bridges only work when they're raised.

Esselfortium and Tarnsman used the effect in BTSX and neither one of them can figure out how it works beyond "change sector references until it does" so Espi figuring it out 8 years earlier with a worse editor, with no base to experiment off of, is 'Doom God' status

>>1792885
Well I'm watching vids of it and it's pretty impressive even not knowing those things. The way tiered heights are used makes the layouts feel like Duke3d levels to me.

>>1791321
I have this problem.

Sometimes I wonder if I should just offer my services as a map detailer/polisher.

>>1791851
Pretty much Buttpain, and I guess Ghoul's Forest if that tickles your fancy.

/x/ has very poor imagination in my opinion, and are very gullible and will believe any bullshit you tell them, good content is rare and far between, last I checked, they're still doing succubus threads and "how do I do a spell you guys".

You'd be better off just basing a wad off one of those old SPC things or something.

>>1792672

>>1791997
>unlocks the breach on a broadsword
>pulls back the bolt
>pushes in five rounds from a stripper-clip into the swords internal magazine
>closes the breach

That could actually be real crunk.

>>1792781
Red hair on a brown body

>>1792943
Well then that narrows it down to /b/ and /mlp/ for boards to use

1_ Last wad you have played.
2_ Favorite single player wad.
3_ Favorite megawad.
4_ Worst wad you have played.

>>1792470
But think of how much it could add to Hdoom!

>>1792948
>elbow-deep-in-the-butt.webm

>>1791632
Conan you faggot

>>1792998
>1_ Last wad you have played.
Double Impact (E1 replacement)

>2_ Favorite single player wad.
Action Doom 2

>3_ Favorite megawad.
Back To Saturn X (though Plutonia 2 before that)

>4_ Worst wad you have played.
Can't think of one, I generally don't play awful ones.

>>1793004
Nothing?
Making a cute/sexy 3D model is a thousand times harder than pixelated as fuck sprites. Add up the problem of clashing visuals with the rest of doom and it will be near impossible to do.
Might as well scrap everything and start a skyrim mod with doomy monsterfus.

>>1792998

1: Mega Man VS Doomguy. Doomguy won, obviously.
2: Dissolution.
3: Scythe 2.
4: Hardcore Doom Wars.

>>1793004
Sprites are much easier to work with.

>>1792998
>Last wad you have played.
1994 Tune-up Community Project

>Favorite single player wad.
Happy Time Circus ][

>Favorite megawad
Eternal DOOM III

>Worst wad you have played.
Xmanga3

>>1791669
>>1791689
I know it's probably been pretty thoroughly stated by now, but

>that proposed story

Holy fucking shit, that backstory is godawful. This would make fucking Mars of Destruction look like Oscar material by comparison.

>>1793029
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7nYK30IkEWk

>>1791618
>the suicide trees from dante's inferno grow evil fruit
was the game any good?

>>1792998
1. Eternal Doom
2. Back To Saturn X
3. Hell Revealed
4. Ether Memento Mori or Eternal Doom

>>1793057
>Memento Mori or Eternal Doom
>Worst
How new are you?

>>1793063
>he doesnt agree with my subjective opinion therefore he is new

>>1793070
Well, what was bad about Memento Mori? It's one of those old school classics.

>>1793070
The above pretty much solidifies that you haven't played too many wads.

>>1793056
Its okay, a decent God of war clone, not terrible, if you're curious I'd give it a rent if I were you. The set pieces are pretty good, they did their homework, sadly the Malabolge is a dissapointment.

>>1792108
>>1792231
>>1792283
jeez, looks fun as fuck. thanks for sharing.

>>1793075
based on his list i conjecture he doesn't like really long levels that don't have modern mapping's ultra perfectionist texturing and aren't particularly difficult or high in monster density.

>>1792450
This guy here on Tumblr. Has only three entries, though two of them are doom related.
http://psyredtails.tumblr.com/

>>1793056

I can't say, sorry. I haven't played it.

I got the idea less from Dante's Inferno (the fruit doesn't appear in the original story) and more from how empowered fruit is really a super-common device in old stories. You have the peaches of immortality from Journey to the West, Idunn's golden apples of power, the Bible's fruit of knowledge of good and evil, and much much much more.

Oh and this tree, which looked cool as hell and definitely would spawn some wicked fruit.

>>1792159
>If I knew how to do anything with sprites I'd just update Eriguns with the Autoshotgun myself since those sprites were really great.
It would literally take an hour to learn and do it.

>>1792487
Get the fuck off /vr/ and never come back.

If you don't like pixels, you don't fucking belong here.

>>1791351
Jesus Christ! How big is this? Just how is anyone supposed to beat this? I'm astounded. It's freakin' huge!

http://www.doomworld.com/vb/post/1289782

Onslaught Six: you should get on this, fame and glory await. And, there's no way you'd do a worse job than that clown Fellowzdoomer.

>>1793029
>Mega Man VS Doomguy
What?

Post speedruns.
Pol.wad and Russian Overkill.

>>1792930
>>1791321
I did 5 maps in the speedmapping compilation. Here's my advice: NEVER STOP BUILDING.

I mean, okay, you do eventually have to stop building. But when I'm making a new room, I almost ALWAYS build an extra doorway that I don't know what the fuck I'm gonna do with yet. This always leaves me with "something to do" or another room to start.

Furthermore, if you are having problems figuring out what has to come "next" in the map, skip that part. Come up with a part "later" in the map. If you know point A and point C, it becomes a lot easier to come up with point B.

If you're ever really stuck, always fall back on contrast. "The last room had wide halls and high ceilings, so the next room should be small and cramped. The last room was bright, this room should be really dark."

>>1793172
The problem with designing maps a room at a time is that you end up with a map that's a series of disjoint rooms.

>>1793172
I feel like you should generally have a plan, myself. But just keep it loose.

>>1793172
My problem is that whenever I try to add a new room/set of rooms I end up completely hating the layout and scrap it. My map has a bunch of loose ends because of all the unsatisfying parts I deleted.

>>1793142

Yeah, apparently there's a crossover mod putting Doomguy and doom weapons in 8-Bit DM.

Doomguy dominates easily because of hitscans.

Are there better ports than zdoom or gzdoom? Or have we reached the pinnacle of doom porting?

>>1793135
It looks like all the spots are taken, otherwise I'd go right in. Also I wasn't very fond of TNT, but that's neither here nor there.

>>1793181
Not necessarily; you only need to worry about building them initially. You can work on making them more cohesive later. This is partially why my own original mapset isn't done yet, I'm still working on making all that stuff gel together.

>>1793218
Define "better"

G/ZDoom isn't even objectively the "best" port depending on what you want, although in terms of advanced features and "new" content ZDoom is unbeatable.

>>1793057
>Back To Saturn X
my nigger

>>1793218

Depends on what you want by "better".
If you want better vanilla support, then you'll want PRBoom+ or Chocolate Doom.
If you want better multiplayer, then you'll want Zandronum.
If you want better vanilla multiplayer, then you'll want ZDaemon/Odamex.
But if you want better mods, then no, there aren't better ports than zdoom/gzdoom.

So I want to take the Justified classes from those LMS MMDM games and play through some Doom 2 with them.

I've never touched Slade in my life, so some pointers on how to just transfer classes to a separate .pk3 or .wad would be nice.

Please don't judge me, flying on the ceilings in hell like a retard sounds fun.

>>1793252
What could be better than G/ZDoom?

>>1793290
See
>>1793268

>>1793279

If you've never touched Slade before in your life, this is a giant, giant, giant apple you are sinking your teeth into. You might be biting off a bit more than you can chew. It'd probably be better to start with something simpler. MUCH simpler.
If you REALLY want to start with this, though, the first thing to do is see what data the justified classes run on. What weapons/equipment/items they use. Then you'll want to port that all to a .pk3 by itself, and then add the classes manually to it.

>>1793268
The Eternity Engine has mapping features almost as advanced as ZDoom without sacrificing vanilla demo compatibility.

>>1793304
Well with chocolate doom I can't see enemies more than 10 feet away, they're too pixellated. Is this how it's supposed to be?

>>1793321

That is how vanilla Doom was, yes.
If you want a purist experience, that's the way to go.
Judging by your response, you probably don't want the vanilla experience.

Of course, the pixels weren't so big on a 14" mid-nineties CRT. If you zoom up 320x240* to today's monitor sizes the pixels will look huge.
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* actually 320x200 with nonsquare pixels, but you all knew that already.

>>1793290
GZDoom with Zandronum's netcode

>>1793314
Thanks anon. I'll give an update if I'm stuck.

Why does chocolate doom always fuck with my windows and second monitor?

if i have folders and shit open and i start up chocolate doom it fucks them all up, changing their sizes, maximizing them to the second monitor, etc.

>>1791273

Achieve acceptability

>>1793371
The resolution changes are messing it up.

anyone else getting a glitch in the /pol.wad? in the first room with all the nazis, the back row of enemies will just sit there and not fight until i run up to them and shoot them and even then there not really responsive. Everything else in the wad seems to work though all though i haven't played through all of it yet

Why are all of the BTSX maps so unnecessarily long?

>>1792998
D2INO
SiD
BTSX Episode 2
DTS-T

>>1793413
For the same reason there are 90 maps across the 3 episodes. People refused to stop making shit.

>>1793435
>BTSX «Episode 2»

leak it

>>1792487
>pixels in a 1993 videogame look too pixelated

this; this is exactly for people like you

>>1793441
No it's coming out September 1st, Dew, Essel and Tarns are busy fixing shit because some people forgot to make their maps actually work in vanilla.

>>1793448
>No it's coming out September 1st

Anon if you are lying to us I will call you mean names over the internet.

>>1793456
OH SHIT
HE'S GONNA DO IT
*HE'S GONNA DO IT*

lolwut
Is oblige supposed to use textures like this?

>>1793461

Ah yeah, Psychedelic mode, right?

>>1793448
>Dew
Argumentative drunken Slav.
>Essel
The most pompous man in Doom.
>Tarns
STOP SHOUTING!!

You can betray these people. Literally no one would hold it against you.

>>1793463
Oh, so THAT'S what it does. heh

>>1793464
>>Tarns
>STOP SHOUTING!!

UUUUUUUUUUUUUMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMM

Dude should just stick to mapping. Seriously