/vr/ - Retro Games

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NEWS
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-Doom 4 reveal! Well, kinda. Only those dudes who were actually at Quakecon got to see it firsthand, but here's a basic rundown of what happened there. It might not be terrible! http://pastebin.com/W8P7fdq3

-hobomaster22 is making a mod manager for Doom in the vein of Quake Injector, and has built-in /idgames support! It's pretty neat, give it a look. http://www.doomworld.com/vb/doom-general/69346-doom-frontend-development-beta/

-Here's a cool online radio that only plays Doom music, 24/7; feel free to listen if you're interested http://liquiddoom.net/doom

-Some anons did a 200 min. speedmap WAD and this is the result! http://www.doomworld.com/idgames/?id=17781 COMPLETELY VANILLA, tell us what you think!

-Wanna see John Romero deathmatching in 2014? Do you live in England? He will be present at Revival '14 on August 9, see more details here http://www.doomworld.com/vb/post/1283115; for reference, this happened at GDC http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLXkipPv0b4KMKE7z3WwlYYUCDLACNoYfE..

-Metroid Dreadnought IS OUT! - http://zandronum.com/forum/showthread.php?tid=4561&pid=61847#pid61847

-The Space Pirate got an update! Check the latest ver. here! https://drive.google.com/file/d/0BxbbtKR5bll_anFPaVhUQVZqcnM/edit?usp=sharing And be sure to check this tutorial http://youtu.be/mrFF8LCZw5Y

-HDoom has its 5th techdemo! happy now? http://www.best-ever.org/download?file=m12-hdoom-techdemo5.pk3

Mods that also got updated (these links include their respective download links for each mod, by the way)

Doom RPG (not the mobile game) - http://forum.zdoom.org/viewtopic.php?f=19&t=33292
Hideous Destructor - http://forum.zdoom.org/viewtopic.php?t=12973
Pirate Doom - http://forum.zdoom.org/viewtopic.php?t=32674
DoomRL Arsenal - http://forum.zdoom.org/viewtopic.php?t=37044
GMOTA - http://forum.zdoom.org/viewtopic.php?p=742401

ATTENTION! If you know about something news-worthy PLEASE reply to this so everyone can see it

Anyone have that image of all the Doom 4 tweets with details?

>>1783625

What is guts?

Baby don't tear me! Don't tear me! No mo

Vanilla Doom aged like shit btw.

>>1784498
This is a medium troll.
Because it's neither rare nor well done.

>>1784505
is that a blood reference?

What if there were flying arch-viles?

>>1784546
It would actually be relatively easy to deal with them thanks to lots of roofs.

>>1784546
They still wouldn't normally appear in large enough quantities to truly become a problem. Now if they were flying, cloaked and randomly teleporting? That's kind of a nuisance.

>>1784546

ANON NO DON'T GIVE ANYONE HERE IDEAS

>>1784498
ugh...

>>1784498

You've aged like shit anon and we're all very disappointed in you

>>1784554
There are really easy and simple alternatives if your only objective is to make your players mad.

>>1784556

too late, the fastest spriting gun in the doomwest has listened

>>1784575

Who's that? That way I can hunt the son of a bitch down and stop him before it's too late

What's a good map pack to play with Project MSX? Is there one that goes with it?

>>1784590
I think Hellbound and MSX go well together.

I think MSX goes with Epic 2 as well.
But I play MSX on everything because I just find it so fun.

>>1784595
>>1784590

is Vrack2 too short for PMSX?

>>1784590
Eviltech works pretty well, except you can survive the episode transitions that are intended to kill you and there is way too much ammo.

>>1784595

MSX is so great because it goes with almost everything so well

>>1784512
I think it's a steak reference

>>1784602

Ammo? But anon, the fists don't need ammo

>>1784556
Too late, its going to happen

>>1784606
but the fists are extremely difficult to use against flying targets

>>1784615

You can jump fartknocker. Get up there and punch those raspberries and meatballs

>>1784629
But if you use a full-powered punch in the air, it throws you to the ground, and if you use any other chargelevel it's likely that the energy use from the jump will fuck up your timing.

Are there any concepts for wasp demons?

>>1784546
What if we had flying cyber annihilators instead?

>>1784635

Shit, this took me the whole fucking day.

Would anyone be interested in a JoJo themed arcade fighter mod?

>>1784650
>That drawn Cyberdemon on death
Neat

What's your guys vote for the best megawad to go with DoomRL Arsenal? I'm looking for really good level design in particular and pretty difficult.

Also is there some kind of wad that has the bestiary of Demon Eclipse? I mean certain mods like DRL have some of them, but I'm looking for just the monsters to be able to combine with like Brutal Doom or something.

And I heard that Demon Eclipse is back in production. Any truth to that?

>>1784638
They still have to appear in a map. And half the time someone places one on a map, it's to fight other monsters, while the other half it's to be an incredibly creative individual who sticks them in doorways.

>>1784650
YES I WOULD

>>1784662
>What's your guys vote for the best megawad to go with DoomRL Arsenal?

Oblige. And this is objectively, intrinsically, and abominably true

How do i fix this?

>mfw running HDoom
oh my

>>1784673
i've never seen something like that before, but it's probably something in the "hud" menu

>>1784638
Cyber Anhilator?

>>1784650
And heres my first one

>>1784689

Cyberdemon with two rocket launchers instead of one. It's on Realm667

>>1784672

I have oblige. It's interesting, but the levels aren't Doom-y nor are they good in general. They just spew stuff together and call it a level. Also I'd like to have a level not spawn mancubi and cacodemons in front of me at the start of a level.

Hell one map I made I had a damn spiderdemon in the third room.

>>1784684
It only shows up when i use the shotgun, I checked the hud and i didn't see anything that would make this happen..

>>1784698
I get what you mean but there's a certain value to the insane surprise factor in shit like that happening. Truly a roguelike.

>>1784706
weird.
do you have any mods loaded?

>>1784706
Using any wads at all?

>>1784718
Yea, I started coding and when i loaded up my game and that started showing up, And my shotgun stays in that stance

>>1784650
Definitely. Doom needs more punchghosts.

>>1784715

Oh yeah my first episode was fun, constant run and gun. But I had it on progressive, so by the 7th map it was me killing a hundred barons coming down a corridor.

Don't get me wrong, they're really fun but I want more like TNT, hard with great level design and will keep you on your toes.

>>1784692
I love it, but I think it would work better with an agitated skeleton instead of a Hell Baron, only because the Revenant actually punches things.

>>1784650
>Agitated skeleton

Seeking suggestions for dino demons, just thinking people here have better ideas then I might, also I'm not a very good artist

Does anyone know any good Halo-esque maps or space maps that are fun? Anything space like will do, but what I have in mind is either the second level of Halo: Combat Evolved where you are out in that big field rescuing marines or maybe some kind of space station would be cool.

>>1784758
Vrack, equinox, or sapphire.

>>1784758
MSX

What's a good overpowered enemy wad besides like nuts? I downloaded Russian Overkill for shits and giggles the other day, and it's hilarious and all. But after the first 5 minutes it loses the magic. I know the weapons are supposed to be overpowered and hilarious, but I really like the mechanics of a lot of them and would like to use them and not kill the entire map in one use.

Do i need a custom Midi soundfont to make the music sound like this in Doom 1+2
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NlWDSvNSzlA

I never get tired of the game itself, but the midi quality soundtrack gets grating after a while

what are some of the most popular wads for zandronum? i have limited bandwidth and it resets on monday so i want to stock up on a few.

>>1784751
Take a look at the Diablos from Monster Hunter

>>1784828

If you really, really want the popular ones, All Out War 2, Brutal Doom, Prop Hunt, Mega Man 8-Bit Deathmatch, Complex Doom, Ghouls VS Humans, Real Guns Advanced 2.

>>1784840
i more just want to open up my options, i don't like downloading at the beginning of my datacycle so now's the time to stock up.

Is it true that ZDoom is much easier than the original Doom for some reason?

>>1784868

If you jump and freelook, yes.

>>1784820
http://www.mediafire.com/download/zo8l3dgf2989266/SGM-V2.01.7z

http://devbuilds.drdteam.org/zdoom/fluidsynth.7z

>>1784803
sunder and deus vult

Watching the playthrough of GMOTA has me wondering

is there a soundfont that replicates SNES samples for instruments?

>>1784885

http://www.williamkage.com/snes_soundfonts/

Nevermind these were the first results in Google.
Brb trying these in Jenesis.

>>1784885
Setzer's SPC soundfont. It's very bad.

There is also GenesiSF to do the Genesis sound. It's pretty farty but succeeds at it's goal better than Setzer's.

There is also a Regression soundfont you can find that sounds amusingly 8-bit in the YouTube videos but when you play any actual video in it it kind of sounds like a Casio keyboard throwing up into a paper shredder.

>mfw playing through Doom for the first time ever
Fuck this game is so fun
Just hit Inferno

>>1784874
Alright, I stuck those in my zdoom folder along with fmodex.dll, but fluidsynth doesnt have music in game.

>>1784894

Welcome to the crew. Stay for a while, feel free to pop on the IRC linked in the OP if you have questions or wanna play with dudes.

>>1782368
Here has a picture with some mods you might be interested in.

have the .sf2 and .dll in the ZDoom / GZDoom folder.

Open up zdoom-frottage.ini

Line 110:
fluid_patchset=filename.sf2

Open it up, pick Fluidsynth as the music engine in the options menu.

>>1784910
>-frottage.ini
Why is your username frottage on your computer

>>1784910
I was quietly insulting the guy asking questions covered in the faq and I didn't want to sound like a huge asshole.

I was actually going to suggest 'Frottage Cheese' as the username but I actually don't know how the .ini handles spaces in a username so I ran out of steam.

I try to provide help and be nice but it's really hard for me to not be a shithead while I'm at it.

>>1784910
It worked, but it isn't the soundfont I wanted and sounds like shit

>>1784936
http://pastebin.com/y0Mnk9s4

I fukken tried. Hopefully you'll find one you like bro.

>mfw playing Equinox + MSX
Holy fuck this is the hypest shit ever, I just had a face-off against the Cyberdemon in one of the earlier stages and it was fucking intense. Fuck.

I'm playing through Serpent Resurrection and damn, i bet this shit won a big cacoaward because it's the best HeXen TC ever made and the level design is god-tier
Big shame that you can't combine it with mods like GMOTA,Hexercise and Wrath of Cronos

>>1784942
>Equinox
That damn wad will keep kicking my ass no matter what do i do after map 03
At least they give you a damn lot of shotgun shells otherwise i could haven't survived as Renegade on DoomRL Arsenal, i managed to assemble the auto-double shotgun

>>1784943
Forgot to say
>dat Korax boss fight
That had to be the best boss ever made
>More and better attacks
>He doesn't escape or teleport like in vanilla hexen
>Phantom Ettins and Saberclaws get summoned by him
>The traps are awesome and way better than vanilla hexen
He simply kicked my ass a lot of times but i enjoyed it

I decided to try out this batman wad and i cannot stop smiling

>>1784662
>Also is there some kind of wad that has the bestiary of Demon Eclipse?

Yeah it's called Demon Eclipse. The reason no wad uses all of them is because, well, that'd be a pretty douchey move, wouldn't it? Just grab all the dude's monsters and throw them in your shit?

> And I heard that Demon Eclipse is back in production. Any truth to that?
Eriance cancelled it like 2 years ago or something but then uncancelled it when everyone whined, because we assumed that if he cancelled the project it meant he wouldn't be doing all the sprites for it, which is all anyone wants the project for anyway, so he put it back in extended longform Mordeth production which means it'll never be fucking finished, but every year or so he'll do another 2-3 monsters for it and redo all the fucking guns (again)

IMO he should have the decency to pick up and leave like NMN

>>1784758
Tei Tenga

>>1784820
Here's my thing, as a musician (and guitar player) I will never be happy with the guitar sounds of any soundfont because I can always tell, they sound so fake and shitty and cheesy, so if I'm going to go cheesy I might as well go full cheese and listen to general MIDI

...sometimes I use a Mega Man X soundfont though

What are some good examples of non standard climaxes, new boss monsters that aren't the icon of sin, or great set piece battles?

>>1784998
>What are some good examples of non standard climaxes
here
this should help

>>1784998
The /pol/ wad actually

>>1785007
You always know how to get to my heart, Stapler-San.

>>1785007
That's not what I was requesting, but thank you, no complaints

>>1784998
Quake only has two bosses, and they can't be killed with conventional weaponry.

The first is a giant lava demon in a lava pit; to kill him you need to press 2 or 3 switches in a row to bring down a lightning rod thing which shocks him. Do it a few times to win.

The last is the final boss, Shub-Niggurath, and the only way to kill her is by telefragging into her. Unlike the other boss, this is actually pretty easily translatable to Doom.

>>1784998

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FNy6y_1cykA

I'm waiting for kiddie edit of the Doom comic where a kid is like "DO YOU HAVE IT?", or GUTS doom mod

>>1785021
Fuck that, I want to see a DOOM parody of GUTS.

>final event is the Super Aggro Frag
>nobody ever beats it because they can't jump

Does anyone know if Doom 1 was ever Doom 2-ized in a mod, placing the new enemies and the new weapon throughout the original Doom's episodes? It's kinda hard to go back because the enemies are much more repetitive, but dem levels.

>>1785052

PSX Doom did this.

>>1784998

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KCent_2q7ZE

>>1785052
As the other anon said, PSX Doom did this, but you can also do it with some quick DECORATE and some randomizers. It'll never be perfect, and you'll probably need to tweak it a bunch to get it to work to your liking, but it's possible.

Just a month or so ago, we ran a Doom 1 co-op server where I replaced every 1 in 10 imps with a Revenant. It was...agitating.

>>1785052
The upcoming Recurring Nightmares Level remakes are going to do this

>>1784726
I had that happen with the plasma gun

IIRC I fixed it with something something flash, and maybe moving something something to the altflash. Anyway i don't really remember but it had something to do with the flash.

>>1784896
You need to go to your console command and ctrl+v fluid_patchset C:\yourdirectoryforsoundfont

Why is 8-Bit Deathmatch so awful? I truly don't see the appeal, as both a fan of Megaman and Doom, it doesn't seem to mesh very well

>>1785114
are you high?

>>1785114

It was pretty big much of a deal back in '09. No other NES-themed Doom wad had so much stuff going on at the time

But then...well, you know what happened. It literally killed a source-port's multiplayer scene; the creator fled from the community (probably to Acapulco or some shit) and all we have now is a huge shadow of its former self

Not even people "play" the mod the way it was intended nowadays. And please let us not touch said subject and bring it into the discussion

>>1785114

It's for fans that like quantity over quality, who want to be able to use every megaman character using every weapon on every stage.
It's the same appeal for the Samsara add-ons, as shitty as they are--people can finally play as Caleb! Who cares if he's broken, shitty, and imbalanced, it's Caleb!

>>1785123

>All the weapons are projectiles, no hitscan

>Alternate gametypes like Justified Classes make it even worse, locking you in with one Master that's potentially counterpicked by other players in the server instead of giving you a proper arsenal

>Every match with a lot of players ends into a bitching about what's OP and what's not, regardless if tweaks come out or not

>Megaman's fandom is collectively retarded

>>1785107
Yeah but they're full of terrible texture alignments and require ZDoom

>>1785150
i was going to say, if you're not high, that's your problem.
you gotta get high to light it

>>1785156
like*
too high

>>1784590
In "theme" I'd say Swim with the Whales/Stargate. They have a neat look to them and MSX fits like a glove.
Otherwise, Deus Vult 2, because hey, it's motherfucking Deus Vult 2 and it's great.

Is it normal to have like no fucking ammo in episode 3 of Doom 1? I never ran out of ammo in the first two but now I'm scrounging

>>1785186
depends on your difficulty

>>1785186
If you play from pistol start it can be a bit rough, if not it should get better at E1M3.

>>1785192
*E3M3

I'm getting this odd issue with Brightmaps in Sperglord Edition. When I use them, I get these black boxes over the Imps, with just their red eyes. How do I fix this?

>>1785156
>>1785161
I see.

>>1785154
The ZDoom thing I get, from what I saw the textures looked fine, unless my eyes are terrible and I just never knew it.

>>1785203
Load the brightmaps before bdse.

>>1785186
If you found secrets in E3M2 you'd have a hefty amount.

Ammo is a bit more rare in Inferno but you can end up with a buttload if you find secrets.

If you're pistol starting all the levels then ammo will be scarce.

>>1785150
1)It's faithful to the megaman series though, adding a hitscan weapon would be too powerful
2)Justified classes is only good when they are team matches
3)I have played some games and they only say it as a joke and not serious, last time i saw someone complaining about others being OP or hacking was a idiot with 700+ ping. Besides, the actual op weapons are placed where its usually hard to reach
4)Not as retarded as the sonic fandom

>>1785234
Both regular 8bdm and Justified have totally different physics for a bunch of the weapons, it's not consistent, and keeping it "faithful" just sets the game back when certain projectiles are just way too slow for practical use when you're not up close and personal. I've played plenty of matches where people stop to argue about balance, it's ridiculous.

Don't move the goalposts with the Sonic fandom

>>1785147
what do you mean people dont play the mod the way its intended? how is that possible?

>>1785242
>totally different physics for a bunch of the weapons
I give you this, pharaoh man's charged wave is wonky and explodes at the minimal touch of a wall, and other weapons in the same style as pharaoh man[charged or big waves] are as clumsy as that
>I've played plenty of matches where people stop to argue about balance
Well, i'm not goint to argue here because i haven't seen people really complaining about it

>>1785150
>Megaman's fandom is collectively retarded
That has absolutely nothing to do with the game itself.

>>1785260
It inherently affects balance and enjoyment factor in a multiplayer game

>>1785260
Sometimes it does but i don't think they are legit megaman fans, just 1 or 2 regular sperglords on the community, i once encountered a BR that kept harrassing a player repetitively[he didn't cared anyway] and spammed a lot
Sage for off-topic

>>1785265
>1 or 2

>i have 10 robophile friends that regularly produce megaman smut and talk about how evil capcom is on a daily basis

>>1785263
How? If the creator listens to idiots, that's his fault, not the idiots'. And you can just ignore the ingame chat. If you're playing pubs in any game you can expect to play with morons.

>>1785271
>and talk about how evil capcom is on a daily basis

I never understood why the Mega Man fandom was so mad when Legends 3 was cancelled.
Oh man the fourth game to his third spinoff was cancelled. ;_;

>>1785274
because a rabid fanbase being fed upwards of 90 games and ports will never be satiated

>>1785274
You also forget that...
1)The also fucked over inti creates,which made them leave capcom and make their own thing
2)Megaman Universe was also cancelled
3)Megaman's 20th anniversary was celebrated with a mere costume for Xbox avatars
4)The last Megaman game they made was an iOS pay2win Megaman X rehash

>>1785292
>3)Megaman's 20th anniversary was celebrated with a mere costume for Xbox avatars

what about poor Metroid, hm?

>>1785292
>3)Megaman's 20th anniversary was celebrated with a mere costume for Xbox avatars
metroid fandom here
cool, at least capcom gave you a gift

>>1785302
>>1785297
>>1785292

Now, let's not get into a match of "whose franchise is more neglected".
Lord knows there's hundreds of one-shot games out there who were never even given a franchise.

>>1785307
there will never be another streets of rage

So I just heard revenants have jetpacks now.

FUCKING WHY.

LIKE THE AGITATION WASN'T BAD ENOUGH ALREADY.

>>1785307
this is truly my favorite penis-showing contest

>there will never be a Baseball Stars 3

>people still do this shit

>>1785312
>playing with revenants that can't fly
>2014

>>1785314

you mean, inserting a pic of themselves in their wads?

I once browsed a bootleg thread and saw something called Smurfenstein, did that thing got ported to ECWolf?

So what would you put in your secret level if not Nazis? Flemoids? Zealots? Xenomorphs?

>>1785332
Flemoids is a good idea. A secret level that's e1m1 of Heretic complete with Heretic monsters would be pretty groovy, too. (With a Doom e3m9-like twist when you hit the exit button, sudden Maulotaur rape.)

>>1785332
well, i guess the reaction you want from these secret levels are:
"woah, where the fuck am i? is that...?"
and
"this is fucking cool, didn't expect that at all"

so probably anything would go as long as it's well made a minecraft theme, maybe?

>>1784820
>Get BASSMidi System Synth
>Get the SC-55 soundfont

>>1785332
Psycrow.

>>1784480
>>1784481

Well that Metroid wad feels a little underwhelming. Are there any good level wads that go with it?

>>1785367
It's mainly multiplayer right now. There was a level wad in the works don't know whats up with it.

>>1785367
>feels a little underwhelming

How so? Anything I can do to address it?

>>1785365
Never heard of it

>>1785351
Well they do have a doom themed mobs mod

>>1785332
>>1785365
MR CROW

But seriously, just a lot of him darting around like a face painted asshole.

fuck chaingunner ambushes

>>1785338
Metal Slug Martians

>>1785390
fuck any hitscanner fight where you can't make them infight each other or other monsters

How was TNT Evilution received back in the day in terms of level design?

Because levels like Metal sure don't really feel fun with that wide open area hitscan jamboree.

>>1785401
iirc final doom got 9/10 "must play"

>>1785372

I dunno I mean everything that's in there is good I guess I just expected more, but then again I play mostly SP. I'm an Ausfag and there only seems to be like 2 people playing MP if i'm lucky.

>>1785401
they'd been promising this thing for months and at the eleventh hour id swooped in and they sold out.

by the time final doom was released, the community had improved its mapping skills, and evilution looked dated. memento mori was already available for free, and better. indeed teamtnt themselves had produced a better-looking megawad in the form of icarus.

>>1785430
it is probably better if you are a huge metroid nerd. since i am not, i do not get the references, so it seems underwhelming to me.

>>1785430

It's the first release, so yeah, there's definitely not a lot in there.
Hopefully I'll be able to keep expanding it to include more--especially on the SP front, for those that can't play multiplayer.

Thanks for trying it.

>>1785218
Isn't that mentioned in some readme? If it isn't, it ought to be.

So I'm trying Project MSX with Back to Saturn X, and it's fucking kickass. You guys should try this pairing, it's great.

I love Doom, and can even appreciate Doom 3 for what it is even if it's rather drab and boring, but I've only finished Doom 1 Episode 1 on Ultra-Violence and Doom 3 on Veteran. I just never feel the urge to really play through much else Doom-wise to the finish because the levels start wearing me down pretty quickly.

>>1785496
.. that's not my picture. dammit 4chan

>>1785496
wearing you down how? try running through them faster, you don't have to kill everything.

>>1785496
wearing you down how? try running through them faster, you don't have to kill everything.

>>1785521
I guess it's because they feel much larger than they really are.. Grew up on Shareware so that explains episode one, but once I start getting past the starting levels of the other two episodes or past Tricks & Traps in Doom 2, my interest dies off.

And Thy Flesh Consumed just isn't fun at all.

pew pew

>>1785526
Thy Flesh Consumed doesn't have very interesting levels.

>>1785531
This is just adorable.

>>1785531
And to think the whole thing started from me asking Sgt. Shivers jokingly for fist reloading sprites.

>>1785531
>>1785535

>>1785531

Nicking this for use as an idle animation.

>>1785540

>Idle animation

Huh, what would Lord Blaz have? Or Dakka Guy? Or Mel?

Can't forget this.

I've never fully played through the first Doom, when I was a kid I only had Doom 2. I've only played about half of Knee Deep in the Dead, I didn't even make it to the Hell Baron Twin boss or whatever it is. Should I first experience it vanilla or should I play it with Brutal Doom?

>>1785531
Cute.

>>1785531
>DID YOU SEE ANYTHING?
>NO SIR I DID NOT SEE YOU PLAYING WITH YOUR DOLLS AGAIN

And this.

>>1785546
holy shit hahahahaha

>>1785546
>>1785550

>what happens when Shivers goes full retard with animations

this needs to happen more often

>>1785547

It's generally best to experience it first vanilla. You don't have to 100% everything, but starting from the basics is always great.
From there, play what mods you want. Just try not to play only Brutal Doom all the time--there's 20 years worth of incredible content from the community, and it'd really be a shame to ignore the rest.

>>1785554
>this needs to happen more often

Fuck yes he does.

Also, he pumped out all of those within the timespan of like 20 minutes. Shivers is a goddamn fucking robot I tells you.

>>1785545

I'd assume Blaz would be adjusting his gauntlets, Mel would be cracking her knuckles, Dakkaguy would be firing into the air wildly just to hear the sounds of gunfire.
In Hae-Lin's world I guess Doomguy has a successful line of action figures.

>>1785526
e4 is an acquired taste. i didn't like it at first either.

I want to play a really long session of doom
Would combining doomrpg with randomly generated maps work?
What could I add on top of it to have the game have more mechanins and shit without breaking?

>>1785562
Doom RPG, DRLA, Randomly generate huge maps with OBLIGE, have it make a Megawad

HAVE FUN FOREVER.

Oh shit right, I forgot I got permission from Jimmy to put up a modified version of Jukebox that plays nice with Doom RPG. So here you all go.

https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/2321290/Temp/j-jukebox-v9-rpg.pk3

So the guys on IRC has me thinking:

What if there was a GMOTA take on this

>>1785571
http://strawpoll.me/2153746

>>1785576

arcvhile I don't think would work, I picture the archvile playing the role as the necromancer, it suits that shit with the 100 revenants and one archie perfectly anyway.

Is there no way to add Brutal Doom to the IWAD list? A version of DOOM that runs BD?

>>1785585
Clearly the Archvile Princess is a goth one.

>>1785563
Would monster mods work with those 3?

>>1785604
Unfortunately, no.

Doom 64 is a better Doom 3 than Doom 3.

>>1785613
And the sky is blue

>>1785546
>>1785550
The Mightiest Boot

>>1785613
But we knew that

>>1785614
>>1785616
It needed to be said again.

>>1785618
Fair enough. I didn't like the "Clear the room to continue" shit it pulled though. It had some moments of genius though.

>>1785618
I really disliked the sprites. They just looked weird to me.

>>1785598

>>1785621

I liked some of the enemy redesigns. 64's Arachnotrons look cool as fuck.

>>1785621
There is a certain charm to the originals, and the Imps look odd, but overall I like the D64 graphics a bit more.

But Original Imps are the shit. And Caca demons

DO NOT REPLY TO THE POST ABOVE

Is there mods/addons that enchance graphics but don't ruin atmosphere? I already got HD textures pack.

>>1785626
It's so I can run it with Steam.

>>1785629
I thought the pain elemental redesigns were the best. It definitely made it look like more than a brown cacodemon.

>>1785632
If you want to run stuff off steam, then get ZDL

>>1785323

Did it had a download link or was it just a screenshot

>>1785540

WAAAAHH, BUT WHO STANDS STILL WHILE PLAYING DOOM?

>>1785656
Thanks.

Can we have a proper discussion about why so many people hate Brutal Doom?
I read the FAQ, but I still want to hear individual opinions.

I think Brutal Doom is ok, but some weapons are overpowered, the bosses run too fast and die too fast.
The chainsaw is ridiculous because of all the blood, same goes for the other weapons.
The screams of the dying monsters are a bit annoying.

Hey /doom/,

my first single player map for Doom 1:

http://www.mediafire.com/download/ecsuy5f9h8quam2/DeanE1M1.wad

Thoughts/opinions/room for improvement welcome

>>1785695
>Can we have a proper discussion about why so many people hate Brutal Doom?

People hate Brutal Doom because the author put in racist comments about blacks in the code.

>>1785697
>>1785695
Ok I should add, I do NOT want to talk about the author, we all know he is a twat.
I want to talk about the mod itself.
Please do not turn this into a flame war

>>1785695
>I still want to hear individual opinions.
then feel free to go and read the archives

>>1785459
I've seen another Metroid Doom release that used a lot of the enemy sprites from Super Metroid. Are you the same guy or are you able to get in touch with that guy and use his sprites?

>>1785697
>Racist code

QUESTION: does /vr/ have it's own multiplayer server on Zdaemon with /vr/ usermade levels and if not WHY?!?

>>1785717

it doesn't respect our code freedoms

>>1785717
>ZDaemon
Why would you play on / use ZDaemon

>>1785696
Nice action packed starter map. Fix doortracks on blue door though.

>>1785724
>Why would you play on / use ZDaemon

Why not is my question.

It's rather fun.

>>1785697
Oh yea, that's why it's a bad mod

>>1785731
>It's fun
So are all the ZDoom / Zandronum mods.
ZDaemon mods are mainly map packs.
Theres no need to play ZDaemon when Zandronum supports OpenGL and has a lot more people.

just fucking realized the lost soul on Anarki's board in Quake 3.

i need to tell people about this

>>1785727
>Nice action packed starter map.

Cheers!

>Fix doortracks on blue door though.

I'm on it!

>>1785731
kilgore is a cunt

>>1785731
>>1785723

>>1785742
to be fair, neither does zdoom nor zandronum

>>1785695

Because the author is mean on the Internet :(

>>1785743

both are open source

https://github.com/rheit/zdoom
https://bitbucket.org/Torr_Samaho/zandronum

>>1785752
not the point. both refuse to build without fmod.

>>1785764

9 minutes just to write that?

>>1785764
>not the point.

YES, it is. That's what I was referring to with "code freedoms". They wipe themselves with Carmack's free will of letting us do whatever the hell we want with Doom's original source code and his trademarked "Right Thing".

Where can i find strife wad?

Also, is that game worth playing

>>1785775
Read OP post. And yes, its great game.

>>1785776
Yes but i dont want to go through 12gb of wads to find strife

>>1785779
Read pastebin in OP post. Its literally first link.

>>1785779

good, because strife isn't in the /idgames torrent.

they don't allow commercial IWADs to be uploaded AT ALL in the archive; if they did it would truly be the apocalypse

feel free to download it from the internet or any "abandonware" sites

>>1785546
>3 arms

>>1785781
>ctrl+f strife
>0 results

I'm currently playing DoomRL Arsenal with additional monsters. What mappack should I play with this? Any other mods to add?

>>1785804
OBLIGE? DoomRPG?

Can somebody point me in the direction of a Doom64 wad? I can't get Wadgen to extract one from the rom.

>>1785795
>Q - Where do I start? Where can I get DOOM?
>A - Download the IWADs here: https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/27048651/iwads.zip

>>1785707
Cool, what map is that? Any good?

>>1785812
Im interested in this as well, apparently it was really good but i have never played it

Reposting from a couple days ago. I've never had this problem before. Whenever there's an enemy near a wall with transparent parts to it, or a projectile is near it, the transparent parts turn completely black. Here's an image for reference. Does anyone have any idea on how to fix this?

>>1785848
.. That's the first time I've ever seen something like that happen.

>>1785848
do you have some brightmaps loaded? are they broken?

Note to HDoom devs: maybe you should remove explosion sound and damage to self for rocket launcher.

>>1785576
no "princess of hell" option?

>>1785874
Only thing I have loaded in that screenshot is Beautiful Doom. It happens even without any pwads loaded.

>>1785848
>not using vsync

>>1785885
I do use vsync.

>>1785892
your fps counter says otherwise

>>1785893
What does that have anything to do with vsync being on?

>>1785894
gee i wonder

>>1785576
>Imp princess
Doushio~!

>>1785894
V-Sync locks your framerate to match your refresh rate. It'll prevent screen tearing and shit. Your framerate is indicative of you not having v-sync on

>>1785898
>>1785913
I do actually have vsync on. I don't know what to tell you. This doesn't really answer my original question though.

>>1785914
you have to enable vsync from your nvidia/amd panel your vsync is obviously not enabled. as for the question no idea as the other anon said never seen anything like this

>>1785916
It is enabled though, I have no screen tearing. Thanks for trying to help, at least.

>>1785917
Doom doesnt present with screen tearing and if vsync was enabled your fps counter couldnt go over your monitor's frequency under any circumstances, given 200+ hz monitors dont exist your vsync is not working.

Really the only difference is youre unnecessarily pushing your gpu, if you monitor it during play it'll be maxed out all the time

oh god I made a eriance bfg voxel that isn't that terrible why did i do this the amount of doom i could have played instead

guess which sprite stealing mod this is for

>>1785920
you may also hear "coil whining" which is the result of playing older games without vsync

>>1785920
>200+ hz monitors dont exist
A few high end CRTs can sync to 200Hz.

>>1785926
>Look at pic
>Think its a futuristic UAC truck
>See post
Curious how it turns out

>>1785939
Dangit, now I can't unsee it.
I'm trying my best so it doesn't look like a giant brick, but bfgs are bulk
the final version isn't gonna look much different.

>>1785953
>Killing Demons with a model truck that shoots plasma
Sounds ballin if you ask me

>>1785016
>Shub-Niggurath
that's a girl?
...
shub-niggurath-tan when

>>1785970
I smell H-Quake. Calling Mike12..

>>1785984
the problem is quakes in 3d so we'd need 3d modellers and animators

>>1785987

Heh, well, while pixel art has it's charm, I dont see Quake1 Era models ever looking attractive.

>>1785545
I actually wanted to do an idle animation for Mel! >>1785558
I quite like this idea, even if Duke has knuckle cracking covered. Toss some more ideas at me!

>>1784650
Yessss. YESSSS.

I quite dig this!

So the brothel of Demon wenches, made using edited HDoom sprites could be a secret level for GMOYA

>>1784830
>I wish there were more active vanilla servers.

too bad the one person that made vanilla servers pulled a steve austin

Post music from other games you think would fit into doom

>>1785738
oh shit, I never even noticed it till you pointed it out.

>>1786064
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v5JqLwyI70w

>>1786064
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5qEVNJKw7dU

>>1786064
Most of hexen's soundtrack really but only fits doom 2

>>1786082
Q1 soundtrack was better.

>>1786085
Q1 soundtrack would fit PSXDoom, not the PC version of DOom.

>>1786086
The psx tone is all in the music and lighting

Hey guys!
Recently I tried Brutal Doom and it is really FUCKING awesome, but theres an issue:
Whenever I use the chainsaw, 5 billion gallons of blood fly around, hit the ground and crash Zandronum.
How do I fix that? I even set gl_use_models to 0.

Anyone here played this? I feel like its one of the most underrated fps games and to my knowledge the first true 3d game

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fJX5QGtVVTk

>>1786092
Can you record a webm of it?

>>1786095
descent 2 has the most maze-like level design ive seen in any game ever it is so fucking confusing

>>1785764
https://github.com/rheit/zdoom/tree/openal

>>1786095
System Shock came out a little before it and Frontier: Elite 2 is older than doom.

>>1786092
Play BDSE instead, or use a mutator so you have less blood

>>1786095
Why is it that I picked up Descent 1 and 2 on GOG, and then suddenly everyone did the same thing, apparently?

>>1785114
>>1785150
>>1785242
>>1785263
The "No Fun Squad" strikes again.

Have you guys tried not being absolute shit at MMDM? Because all I really see is nitpicking that affects the game in no way, and you guys being terrible at Justified Classes.

>>1786170
I play bot matches with it
The soccer ball weapon is great holy shit

I probably wont ever play it multiplayer but its fun just for the crazy weapons

>>1786064

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fHmzFVDjVnM

Someone convince me D44M won't be totally shit

>>1786064
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EioUJCiy7_Q

>>1786064

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IamYtUfjjb4

Does anyone remember this?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7r-O3_eiAFc

>>1786210
1- No reloading
2- Took some notes from BD, which deep deep down below means taking notes from the original games
3- Focus on action, no scripting in the demo

Retro fps experts i need your help

I played a medieval fantasy type game in late 90s i dont remember the name of

The box art featured a guy with metal helmet covering his face with possibly red glowing eyes and 2-3 horns

From what i remember it was mostly based around melee combat, swords and shit, you could also find a shield that would eventually break and youd have to find another one. also poison spiders

Anyone got a clue? The game looked very much the same as hexen/heretic

>>1786210

Why?
Think for yourself, anon, don't ask other people to convince you of something you don't believe.

posted in the last thread, but internet crashed so I do not know if someone replied. I have a hard time getting SSF to play Doom, because the game becomes unplayable for me after I start it up.

>>1786225
The box art guy was standing on a pile of skulls with a sword if i remember correctly

Skeletons
Post em

>>1786225

That's whichaven !

>>1786225
>>1786234

Witchaven.

>>1786234
witchaven

>>1786228
Well of course Super Street Fighter won't work on Doom, silly!
Who would want Blanka rolling over zombies besides me?

>>1786243
>SSF
it's a sega saturn emulator

>>1786238
>>1786239
>>1786242

Thank you, do you know where i can find a working download

>>1786248
I know. But that'd still be the sickest shit

>>1786249
Google. It took me 2 minutes to find it. You can do it too.

>>1784650
I can totally believe a legit Stand would be named Agitated Skeleton.

>>1786237
all my oc is still at >>1782558

I'm about to get an Android (hyped like a little shit). Is that GZDoom on Android thing available for download (even as a beta)?

If that video someone posted was running Rbutl Dumb on a decent framerate, I can't help but wonder how does regular Doom fares.

>>1786215
Of course, it's one of ACE Team's earliest projects. Gotta know where Zeno Clash came from. Pretty much unbeatable in my dl of GZDoom, though.

>>1786092
Don't play Brutal Doom, man. It's essentially an overly juvenile version of Doom with obnoxious amounts of gore, call of duty features, and corny sound effects and taunts.

If you're in it for the extra blood, just run nashgore.wad. It's far better looking.

>>1786306
To be fair, most of that stuff can be disabled with the addons.

Hey are there any miods specifically for hellknights? Id like them to be mor distinct than just a baron recolor

>>1786306
Other than reloading i enjoy brutal doom. Its one of the best doom mods ive played

>>1786306
>don't like what I don't: The Post.

>>1786323
Damn phone, this key pad always throws me off

>>1786323
I don't think anyone has, a doom 3 style hellknight sprite would be pretty neat

>>1784981

I'm a songwriter and guitar player as well, and have been for 10+ years, and the sound of midi doesn't bother me. I do hate the sound of the guitar in the default soundfont or whatever that comes with Windows, but it's not really because it doesn't sound like a guitar. I just hate the sound.

I like how it sounds in the link that dude posted, though. I think of midi instruments not in terms of the real instruments

Plus I love retro game music and it's all synthesized

>>1786267
no gzdoom on android just yet, only prboom+ and chocolate doom

>>1786347
>only prboom+ and chocolate doom

EVEN BETTER(ER)

Sunder, here I fuggen come

>>1786306
The Duke-ripoff dying animations look like they could be neat to add on their own though.

>>1786306

He can if he wants to.

>>1786347
Which of the 2 is better?

>>1785724
>>1785737

I second the zdaemon guy. Looks like he was flagged and removed as usual when anyone mentions any port other then Zandronum on this board. *Sigh*
Zandronum is bad because the community is bad. It's annoying, childish and immature (my opinion). 99% of the mods they all play 24/7 are bad. No room left for good old multiplayer doom.

That's why we still cling to zdaemon, Nobody plays the good old stuff on zandronum unfortunately. Now on the other side of the fence, on zdaemon 99% of the time every populated server is old school. Join any one and you're playing old school multiplayer doom. (This is not opinion, just the truth).

I could stand skulltag but shit's gone too far with the ponies, chinese cartoons and megamans of zandronum. Now enjoy this post while it lasts as this will be flagged and removed due to the toxic reddit-like community in this doom /vr/ board.

>>1786415
I haven't really played around with either port, but they both seem to be fine to me. This is the same app that GZDoom is supposedly coming to.

>>1786420
>this will be flagged and removed due to the toxic reddit-like community in this doom /vr/ board.
if your post gets removed, then the reason will be the part i quoted.

>>1786420
>Zandronum is bad because the community is bad.

>That's why we still cling to zdaemon

>>1786347
Looks like theyve all beem removed from gplay and theres no alk downloads

>>1786267
>I'm about to get an Android (hyped like a little shit)

Enjoy being part of the PRISM BOTNET.

>>1786420
I agree completely, seems today all people want to play aren't even Doom at all anymore. Doesn't even belong on /vr/ since 90 percent of the conversation is about some fancy OpenGL effects mod. Too bad I personally can't actually stand the way ZDaemon controls, as if it's radically changed from Zandronum or ZDoom

>>1786434
The post will be removed because you zandronum fanboys flag and report any mention of zdaemon. Fuck you.

>>1786435
>Zandronum is bad because the community is bad.
yes

>>1786445
yeh. Regarding the zdaemon controls though. What on earth do you mean?

Zdaemon is the oldest online multiplayer Doom source port still in current use today. Although player numbers are dwindling it remains popular amongst its loyal userbase, not for the least of reasons that any dissent swiftly results in an IP ban from the system's master server, which is rigorously enforced across the network.

>>1786438
???
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.beloko.doom&hl=en

>>1786420
>>1786434
>>1786448
>Looks like he was flagged and removed as usual when anyone mentions any port other then Zandronum on this board. *Sigh*

No, when he unnecessarily bitches about how there's no servers with /vr/, that's when his post gets deleted.
We don't give a fuck what you use. Play Zandronum. Play GZDoom. Play PRBoom+. Play Chocolate Doom. Play whatever.

But when you start crying that "people aren't playing the port I like!", that's when you get deleted.
It's also when we point and laugh at you, but that's neither here nor there.

>>1786461
Been playing it for 4 years not once have I been banned nor anybody I play with. They only ban childish, immature, chinese cartoon loving br0nies. That's most likely why the zandronum community is almost entirely made up of them. Good riddance, I say.

Also numbers dwindling? Nah I can't say that i've noticed that. I work odd shifts and play at odd times and i'm still constantly finding plenty of games.

>>1786228
Play the PSX port instead

Literally the same game except the PSX version runs better

Do not give it attention.

>>1786321
Why would you even want to play brutal doom then?

>>1786454
I don't know, the one time I tried it (back when skulltag used to have a couple of full servers playing non-stop duel) something felt off about the way it controlled, I guess I got too used to the physics in skulltag because I kept dying over and over again from simple things like not making a jump I thought I could or simply not being as good as the other players (when I was actually quite good in skulltag, I don't think there's that dramatic of a skill difference)

I'll try it again later today though

>>1786470

Yes, actually yes his post was deleted because he mentioned zdaemon and happened to disagree with the majority of this thread which is unfortunately die hard zandronum fanboys.
When you mention a port and people quickly attack you and spew things like
>kilgore
>muh opengl
>muh freedoms (lol even though I play on windows and use proprietary software all the time lol)
What do you think is going to happen? Arguments will ensue. The problem is the zandronum fanboys can't keep their mouths shut. Those who play zdaemon get attacked by the furries.

I will make 24/7 zdaemon servers (alrdy have had 1 for a while) let's see if the thread creator will even add them to the thread title/main post)

I will post them later. Hopefully he will. Prove me wrong OP.

Sometimes people need a kick in the ass to start doing something.

>>1786484
yeah probably you just got used to the other port. Could have been the FPS cap too.

He just exposed himself.

>>1786490
>zdoom/zandronum
>muh freedoms

Nope. Zdoom uses several bits of non-free code.

>>1786490
>yes his post was deleted because he mentioned zdaemon
So you're a moderator and you know exactly why posts are deleted, and it's because of your persecution complex regarding "it's those damn Zandronum fanboys!" instead of his crying about why by god /vr/ doesn't have zdaemon servers?
No, you don't.

>let's see if the thread creator will even add them to the thread title/main post)
>honestly expecting a 24/7 server to be in the post when even the 24/7 other servers weren't put in
Nah.

i'm the last person that would be called a Zandronum fanboy. all my multiplayer Doom has been in Odamex.

>>1786501
Including the slope code they stole.

>>1786490
>his post was deleted

It's still there m80, calm yourself

>>1786501
I was just relaying what people on here normally spew. If that's true then i'll laugh even harder next time somebody says that.

>>1786506
i believe the deleted post was >>1785717

do you guys mostly play on zandronum? or is there another sourceport for online?

>>1786504
Is it really stolen from the Build source? I thought I remembered reading the implementation was coincidentally similar

>>1786514
We haven't been playing very much multiplayer lately, but when we do, it's usually on Zandronum

>>1786514
Zandronum, ZDaemon, and Odamex.
Zandronum if you want modern features, Odamex if you want oldschool, ZDaemon apparently if you hate freedom or something I don't know.

>>1786502
>Nah.

There you go. It's shit like that. You can't keep your mouth shut and not spew your zandronum fanboy opinion. You stir up shit, start arguments, flag posts and get zdaemon posters banned or their posts removed. You should live up to your words and be more like this guy then:
>>1786481

>>1786502
>>1786506
Do not respond to the shitposter.

>>1786520
>>1786514
Zdaemon for good old multiplayer doom with plenty of games consisting of this with players in them 24/7
Zandronum for newwave over modded ghouls and zombies, megamans, all out war etc. Good luck finding anybody to play an oldschool surv,DM or coop with.
Odamex if you like to play alone.

Anyone know of a good guide to setting up Doom remotely on a linux server?

>>1786527
>shitposter.
Yup there it is. The toxic reddit community mentality. "He plays zdaemon, the vast majority of us play zandronum, anything he says is a shitpost!"

You're not exactly good at hiding yourself, DKG.

>>1786210
no health regen
no reloading
"fast-paced", not cover-based
demons from hell instead of aliens/mutants bullshit
carry all the guns all the time
Brutal Doom-esque fatalities and gore (subjective)
REVENANTS WITH JETPACKS

Just report and ignore the whole argument. This "ZDaemon VS Zandronum" shit is retarded and you're both wrong.

ZDaemon is for people who want to play vanilla. Zandronum is either for people who want to play slightly modified vanilla or more complex mods that ZDaemon does not support.

I don't know who started this shit, but I wouldn't put it past that nazi fuck known as DKG/Donald.

>>1786523
>telling him he's full of shit
>zandronum fanboy opinion!

>>1786537
nah if anything it's probably l1t

>>1786535
>toxic

This isn't League of Legends, dude
>>1786527
However, this guy needs to chill the fuck out. Someone that has a different opinion isn't always a shitposter, and I haven't seen a shitpost yet from the people who like ZDaemon. If anything, you're the one shitposting.

>>1786545
He has the same awkward grammar that DKG has.

>>1786549
so does l1t, who also is known for his feminine whining about people liking what he doesn't

>>1786548
>and I haven't seen a shitpost yet from the people who like ZDaemon

See
>>1786523
>>1786490

Crying about how people play something you don't is shitposting.

So uh...How about that Doom, right?

>>1786558
Sorry, I forgot that >>1786420 was someone else. Maybe if our dear shitposter would act more like him, we could actually have a reasonable discussion about Zandro vs ZDaemon

>l1t


>>1786543
Yep. Point proven. You all just report zdaemon posts once the arguments are instigated by zand fanboys. Here is the timeline each and every time:

>A fine young gentlemen proposes we play zdaemon or talks about zdaemon
>some zdaemon players converse or not
>zandronum die hards post kilgore quotes
> zand propaganda is posted and spreads
> inevitable arguments ensue regarding what the best port is
>all the zandronum players flag and report the zdaemon posts because they try hard as fuck and there are waves of them
>zdaemon players are snuffed out until next time

>>1786567

Doom is cool. I like the guns that shoot things.

>>1786092
You'll have to edit the wad yourself man, Mark gave some tips as to how past thread. ctrl f blood folder or something like that.

>>1786568

Would be really nice to have, instead of knee-jerk butthurt shit like >>1786571

>>1786571
And you proceed to get asspained and fume over it like some sort of supervillain in a Saturday morning cartoon, swearing vengeance on those meddling Zandronum kids.

People don't like the same source port as you, get the fuck over it.

>>1786580
>>1786092
Found it: http://archive.foolz.us/vr/thread/1778908/#q1781580

>>1786539
>demons from hell instead of aliens/mutants bullshit
Didn't they say its implied the demons are an experiment gone wrong?

>>1786571
so here is the moral of the story. Zandronum players need to mind their own business when zdaemon is posted. If you don't like it, shut the fuck up and all your problems will be solved.

>>1786557
>so does l1t, who also is known for his feminine whining about people liking what he doesn't
Looks like I have another fan.

>>1786587

Yes and my heart dropped to my fucking feet the moment I heard that.
Doom is dead.

>>1786571
I don't see how your point was proven. I'm pretty sure my post was far more mature than your kraut peabrain could even understand. You aren't proving anything. You're just moaning endlessly about nothing. Get lost.

>>1786582

>>1786537
>>1786549

>boogeymans

you IRC people always amaze me

>>1786589
>so here is the moral of the story. Zandronum players need to mind their own business when zdaemon is posted

Also would help if people would stop crying like bitch-babies when "why are people playing a source port I don't like?! ponies! chinese cartoons! overmodded! PLAY WITH ME I'M LONELY"

>>1786509
It is true

http://zdoom.org/wiki/license

MAME licensed OPL2 coulde be easily replaced, but then there's also build engine code which is specifically licensed as NC. That doesn't count as free software. If it wasn't due to that, Zdoom would've been in the Debian repos years ago.

Cleanup on aisle four, janitors.

>>1786539
>>1786587
people said they saw pentagrams and shit so dunno

>>1786593
Pretty sure? Well that's not sure enough.
Here i'll spell it out for you again. We post zdaemon, you can't keep your mouth shut, we then retaliate, you then tattle tail and get people banned. Zandronum players need to just stay quite if they don't like another port somebody plays.

>>1786592
>>1786614

Maybe the experiment gone wrong caused Hell to break loose on mars? Sorta like Doom 3 but actually hell is physically phasing into Mars, aiming for Earth? MAYBE???

>>1786523
Since this got deleted, do you mind finishing the job, janitors?

>>1786587
>>1786614
I suspect they're going to integrate Hell stuff to that. Like the "experiments" were actually more like scientifically-replicated satanic rituals.

>>1786587
It can be a teleporter experiment gone wrong. Just like Half-Life.

Nazi fucker's gone. Thanks blazko.

>>1786592
i think it would be about hell if they were able to make it about hell. but there are still too many religious people in positions of power.

>>1786617
>We post zdaemon

No, you cry. You cry, and cry, and cry.
You cry that people aren't playing a source port you like.
You cry because people are playing "overmodded" shit, as if modding wasn't what Doom was designed for.
You cry because janitors see your post, go "yeah this guy is crying out the ass", and delete it.
You cry because you're deluding yourself with some conspiracy that Zandronum players have any power over the moderation and can influence them with "th-this guy is talking about other source ports!".
You cry because you legitimately believe that the majority of /doom/ uses Zandronum when we have vanilla, Odamex, GZDoom, and other ZDaemon players.
And then when you get your ass kicked, you cry some more. You cry, and cry, and cry. You whine about the Zandronum conspiracy and how you're so persecuted when we've had legitimate ZDaemon discussion before without your bitching.

And by god, it is DELICIOUS to watch you cry.

>>1786602
I'm not sure what the other guy even said since you fucks got him reported and probably banned but what you just said nearly never happens. I've never seen people complain about anybody not playing with them on zdaemon. There are always tons of games full of people.. We can't even have people play if OP does not post the zdaemon /vr/ servers.
As for the ponie, furry, anime shit, that is said later on once zandronum fanboys instigate.

>>1786587
So, they will just rip off Killing Floor's plot?

>>1786639
hmm. I don't recall doing any of this. Must have been somebody else.

>>1786640
>We can't even have people play if OP does not post the zdaemon /vr/ servers.

OP doesn't post Zandronum or Odamex servers either, it's sincerely doubtful that he'd post ZDaemon servers as well.

>>1786639
Can mods please just ban the fucker permanently? He's clearly not planning to contribute anything worthwhile to the site and does nothing but start arguments in threads that were peaceful before his arrival.

>>1786641
Killing Floor didn't invent anything.

Killing Floor takes plenty of inspiration from Doom in the first place. When I was into KF (330hours on record), I even said to myself it's modern FPS closest to Doom.

>>1786463

>buying source-ports

Ehhh...I think I'll stick to regular games until someone with actual brain develops a free option.

In the meantime, I've heard there's a level builder of sorts; might be cool to create one for shits n giggs

>>1786647

>>1786649
>Killing Floor didn't invent anything.

Sorry I mean, at least as far as its story / setting is concerned.

>>1786587
>>1786592
There a source on this? I'm pretty sure they're just talking about teleportation stuff (especially given that hell has always been a really important part of Doom) - but if it's anything regarding 'aliens' or 'mutants', i cannot fucking drop fast enough.

Doom News for the sake of keeping the thread going:

http://www.gamespot.com/articles/crytek-s-lead-graphics-engineer-leaves-company-to-/1100-6421218/

For some reason Doom RPG Mod doesn't quite tickle my pickle. Is there anything more like the Duke3D mod Weapon of Mass Destruction? That shit was the best. I miss my Vampire Kick.