/vr/ - Retro Games

>>1785040

I won my copy from Gamespy and it was delivered to me on Valentine's Day in my senior year of high school. I was also taken to the admin's office that same day because a friend of mine posted things online that made it sound like a group of my friends wanted to blow up the school library.

Needless to say everything worked out, I still have my copy of UT and I'm sure that kid is a registered sex offender at this point.

>baiting this hard

Quake 3 and UT are both fun and distinct games but UT is more fun in a team environment because of its weapon variety.

>Quake 3
very little content for those hardcore types that only ever play three levels anyways
>Unreal Tournament
Lots of content for people who actually want to have fun

Suck my dick OP

>>1785067
Quake 3 still has an active mapping/modding community to this day, this is a silly argument.

bait aside

do people actually play ut still? it was a great game and none of the followups were able to capture the feeling of the original

Flamebait threads aren't allowed.

Get out.

I'd play some fucking UT with /vr/. Played FFR with /vr/, and that's great, so why not shoot each other in the fucking face?

>>1785098
I thought the weapon balancing and pacing of UT3 felt exactly like the first, but somehow everyone agreed it was shit and it never gained any community.

>>1785098
>it was a great game and none of the followups were able to capture the feeling of the original

Talk for yourself, i think UT2004 is pretty good.

>>1785098
It's true that they became a lot slower. I heard there's a mod for UT2k4 that rectifies that, but I don't know whether anybody uses it online

Just wish there were more servers with people in them.

>>1785067
>overpowered sniper rifles
>spammy no skill rocket launchers
>fun
w/e u say bud

>>1785040

>>1785040
As an id fanboy, you're full of shit. UT has its own quirks.

Unreal Tournament is fun the moment you pick it up.
Quake 3 Arena is fun after 24 hours of relentless practicing.
Both are rewarding experiences with tight engines, fun multiplayer, and an active modding scene. Well not so much Quake 3 on that last part, Quake Live pretty much destroyed that.

>>1785453
I agree, I actually thought it was really fun. Not sure why exactly the game got so much flak.

>>1785329
Fuck yes, what server are you on?

>>1787451
I really like quake 3. The game is super focused and the controls/movement are incredible.

Different strokes for different folks.

Quake 3 had an emphasis on speed an precision.

UT had an emphasis on using the right guns in the right areas.

Both are arena shooters.
Both have map metagames of timing and grabbing powerups.
Both are great games. There is no reason to squabble.

Fuck I miss playing bombing run on a LAN party. Now THAT's what you call a party.

>>1787425

>>1787451
>quake 3
>no modding scene

Arguably, one could say that the entire linux/open source FPS scene is the quake 3 modding scene.
Srsly, goddamn near every linux fps is a derivative of either ioquake3 or the shitty cube2 engine...

>Do people actually eat apples? Why? Just get oranges. Oranges are much better food.

>>1788079
didn't say it didn't have any modding scene, just that it has died a lot. i mean a lot. unreal tournament is still running strong, quake live killed off quake 3's modding scene very effectively what with more than half of the dwindling playerbase leaving to play that instead since it had more players, and the fact that quake live doesn't have any support for custom maps unless approved by bethesda..

>>1788468
afaik ut never had as big of a modding community as q3.

>>1785040
>Q3
Why not QL?

Also, let's not do the "my game > your game" thing. They're both great.

dat soundtrack http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i_0G6WPuss4

>>1785040
U4E
/thread

>>1785050
Totally. The best way to fix unfun weapons is to add more of them.

>>1788468
>Quake live killed off Quake 3's modding scene very effectively

No, CS killed off Quake 3's modding scene. It never got off the ground really. Mods often went unplayed and for all it's improved moddability, there weren't many fully fledged ones. Even well known mods like Weapons Factory were pretty much DOA with no one playing it.

That was ages before QL.

About the only mods that did get attention were really CPMA/OSP/RA/Freezetag/Excessive, small gameplay variants and tournament control. Also Defrag.

The only other 'mod' that might be considered to have been played actually shifted off into it's own self contained sourceport was Urban Terror.

I like both.

>>1788489
QL is dogshit compared to Q3.

That song is decent, but fuck that shitty compression. I'd miss half the soundtrack Unreal since I turn music off while playing.

UT99 is vastly inferior to 2004.

>>1785050
>UT is more fun in a team environment
Assault is the best thing ever created. Wish I could find more people interested in it.

>>1785040
I recently started my own dedicated server for UT'99 to play with friends, so yes, people do play this game.

>>1788620
No, 2004 has gimmicky acrobatics.

>>1788228
This is true. Apples suck. Oranges > apples. You should all eat oranges, they are best.

>>1789918
mandarins are better though

>>1785040

I have both and honestly prefer UT (vanilla wise), although Quake 3 holds a special place in my heart as it was the first game I ever had a full on addiction to and was the game that got me into gaming in general.

Quake 3 does still have a semi-active modding and mapping community though. I am not aware of UT being active at all in terms of modding and mapping.

Quake 3 as a multiplayer game has been dead since 2008 though. I missed UT completely, so I don't know when it dead.

>>1788614
>QL is dogshit compared to Q3
Any particular reason? Or is it just a "it sucks because I didn't play it when I was 12" thing?

>>1789948

Because you have to pay once a month for maps you can already play freely in Quake 3.

The physics and weapon damage are both different as well, they feel toned down compared to vanilla Quake 3.

>>1789917
I have to admit I had a pretty good time wall dodging over people to dump flack shards in their faces. Dodge jumping was also completely necessary considering the size of some of the maps (especially user created), player cap, and vehicle spawns on retail maps.

>>1789957
>Because you have to pay once a month for maps you can already play freely in Quake 3.
That's pretty lame. I tried QL when it was first released to the public, thought the damage was wonky and went back to Quake II and UT.

>>1789917
Can't dodge?

>>1789957
Also, less custom shit. Can't start own servers. Light rendering is slightly a mess. No proper server browser at least not externally. Netcode is worse. Weapon balance is worse. It does have smoother mouse input which is good, which really doesn't overshadow the largest problems, the broken multiplayer in a multiplayer only game and the shit game balance. The game balance would be less of an issue, not good but doable if the netcode wasn't garbage. The funny thing is instaunlagged for Q3 already does what QL wanted to do, but it actually works properly. QL is up with shots hitting that don't actually hit, beeps with no damage. Lightning guns misses very sporadically even on non moving targets. It also has the CoD effect where what you're actually seeing is often not what's happening in game by quite a bit.

>>1789856
I've always been super upset about how nobody seems to like Assault. Loved UT99 and UT2k4 assault modes. Fucking UT3 didn't include it.

>>1790372
Could care less, larger player space modes like assault typically die out quicker anyway. Players for anything but the top 3-5 games on steam is going to suffer from a severe lack of players. Everyone is DOTA/CS/TF2 garbage. Even some of those that supposedly clock ~10K or more players can have a dearth of players when divided by servers, ping, customizations, modes , and fake listings to the point where it can be fairly barren of people to play.

was jus playin q3a theres still alot of servers up

>>1785040
>Do people actually play this game?
Yes.

>Why?
It's fun.

>Just get Quake 3.
No.

>Quake 3 is a much better game.
You are wrong, it is a much different game.
Also, shooting tiles at vaguely humanoid shapes is not my idea of having fun.
Also, picrelated.

I played UT so much that I cracked the disc from the edge to the center.

Despite this crack.. it still worked, so I continued to use it even more.

Then one day I put the disc in and the cd rom started to spin absurdly fast. Suddenly POP! Smoke started coming from it, and it completely stopped working. I had to take it out and manually open it up to get my disc out. To my amazement the disc literally exploded into hundreds of little shards, and it broke my CD ROM.

I played UT so much that I exploded it.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ao9EsDhwtT0

For a game of such chaos, it has such a calm theme.. and it's one of the greatest.