/vr/ - Retro Games

in my day we called them dungeon crawlers

We are apparently getting a new Underworld game in the next few years. I wish From would try and design a new Souls-ish game for first-person, too.

>>1783505
From is making a new Ultima Underworld?

>>1783487
That "new" model is fucking awful, I have to say. She still has a face, that's not right.

>>1783505
>>1783509
implying u never heard of King's Field

>>1783519
>implying I don't own all four

I'd fucking love a new King's Field game though. Or maybe a new Shadow Tower. I just want some really fucking dark and gritty dungeon crawling goodness where I actually fear death.

>>1783519
>u never

*You never

>>1783519
But that's what I'm referring to, lol. Neurath and company are doing the new Underworld, it seems.

Let's make this a Star Cruiser thread, since it almost got localized for the Mega Drive: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yND5V85iPHc

Not retro but Legend of Grimrock was alright. Not great, but alright. They released modding tools so people can make whatever the hell they want with the engine.

>>1783487
from a /vr/ point of view, sure I can understand skyrim not counting, but the reality is that it was one of, if not the most popular first person role playing game ever. maybe you don't like it, i mean the meme lately has been hating on everything bethesda does, but that still wont change it's relevance in gaming today.

and also yeah, what the fuck is happening in that picture? its like the people responsible for the new model didn't even understand what they were doing and just said fuck it, give her tits and a pretty face. i seriously didn't know lara croft was in system shock 2.

my contributions to the thread will be TES Arena and Daggerfall. just getting them out of the way since they are bound to show up anyways.

>>1783650
>meme
Stop acting like a child, there are plenty of good reasons to dislike Beth and their games. Writing all criticism of as people spewing memes is retarded.

>>1783650
Bethesda has always been harshly criticized for releasing games of mediocre quality and masses of bugs. The only thing they have going for them is the sheer modding potential and non-linear gaming. If not for modding, Elder Scrolls would have died a long time ago.

I wish I could read Jap.

>>1783487
>Rebirth mod

>>1783487
>First-person RPG thread

>>1784504
whoops, meant to sage. excuse me.

Thief doesn't have any RPG staples like character growth but it's an immersive sim like System Shock or Ultima. In many ways its a streamlining of the roleplaying game with a focus on stealth. Put aside the dice rolls and Thief plays much like playing a rogue in a pen and paper RPG.

>>1783515
It's because they tried to make her go from horrible abomination to sexy fetish fuel.

This gets no mentions at all. For some reason I can't put my finger on I freaking love this game.

>>1783487
Immersion is dead.
We're in the age of
>You can do anything anyway and succeed!
>Want to use stealth with a greataxe? Go ahead!
>Want to run-and-gun with a melee weapon? You betcha!

>>1785687
It's from 2006.

Why the fuck do modders always ruin good designs. The biggest disappoint was the Better Heads Morrowind mod ruining Jiub by putting his scar on the wrong side of his face.

>>1785687
it's might and magic from ubisoft

it sucks

>>1785771
It's might and magic in name only. It's a fun game.

>>1785765
modders are starting to realize the importance of faithfulness to the original assets, at least.

OP, I'm a level designer in games like Quake, and I want to experiment with stuff like DarkRadiant, I find the content I can design really captures the unease, and tension of those great immersive sims. Thief is another game close to my heart.

>>1783515
That "new" model is already 11 years old, dipwad.

>>1785765
>The biggest disappoint was the Better Heads Morrowind mod ruining Jiub by putting his scar on the wrong side of his face.
Whoooo literally gives a shit. People with autism this big don't need to be catered to.

>>1783624
Legend of Grimrock is quite literally retro.

>>1786381
Your clearly not a fan of modern Morrowind.

Have any of you guys played this great game?

>>1788993
Nope, but that looks rad.

My first was Arcana on the SNES. I loved how only where you've been is on the map, like in SMT. I guess saying that is blasphemous and makes me come off as lazy, but I think it feels like it still retains the sense of exploration.

>>1789205
Wizards & Warriors (200), the problem with this game is that there are plenty of bugs that need to be fixed, I got stuck in a crypt and I can't continue.

But it is beautiful, very detailed and the combat system is great, wonder why David W. Bradley didn't release the source code in order to fix it.

I never got past the tutorial level of Deus Ex, I couldn¡t look past the awful graphics and shit animations.

on contrast I really liked System Shock 2, the dark engine is really smooth and the animations look excellent in it even if the models look like shit.

>>1790932
I played Deus Ex before I played System Shock 2 and Thief Gold.
I thought Thief Gold was superior to Deus Ex and System Shock 2. But I think System Shock 2 is better than Deus Ex.

Currently on my first Thief II playthrough.

>>1790932
You're on /vr/ complaining about graphics?

>>1783487
How complicated is System Shock?

>>1790932
Deus Ex has an awful tutorial. It's best to just skip it and jump right into the game.

>>1792046
well the first one is a much more complicated game than it's successor, but it's not an rpg. It has a handful of rpg systems, such as upgrades and an inventory, but it isn't an rpg. It's a more reflex oriented action game with punishing exploration where you need to find items and abilities to progress and unlock pathways and everything. A lot of the game is available to you once you reach the first elevator.

System Shock honestly feels like a game that has elements in common with metroid, ultra complicated, more modern shooters like operation flashpoint, games like portal 1 and 2, exploration like in the souls games or even zelda at times.

It's fucking wild how cohesive the game is, yet how utterly insanely complicated it is.

>>1783708

>If not for modding, Elder Scrolls would have died a long time ago.

>mfw

>>1785771
It's a linear first-person RPG by Arkane Studios.

It rules.

>>1788993
Fuck yeah Wizards&Warriors