/vr/ - Retro Games

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NEWS
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-Doom 4 reveal! Well, kinda. Only those dudes who were actually at Quakecon got to see it firsthand, but here's a basic rundown of what happened there. It might not be terrible! http://pastebin.com/W8P7fdq3

-Here's a cool online radio that only plays Doom music, 24/7; feel free to listen if you're interested http://liquiddoom.net/doom

-Some anons did a 200 min. speedmap WAD and this is the result! http://www.doomworld.com/idgames/?id=17781 COMPLETELY VANILLA, tell us what you think!

-Wanna see John Romero deathmatching in 2014? Do you live in England? He will be present at Revival '14 on August 9, see more details here http://www.doomworld.com/vb/post/1283115; for reference, this happened at GDC http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLXkipPv0b4KMKE7z3WwlYYUCDLACNoYfE..

-Metroid Dreadnought IS OUT! - http://zandronum.com/forum/showthread.php?tid=4561&pid=61847#pid61847

-Also The Space Pirate got an update! Check the latest ver. here! https://drive.google.com/file/d/0BxbbtKR5bll_anFPaVhUQVZqcnM/edit?usp=sharing And be sure to check this tutorial http://youtu.be/mrFF8LCZw5Y [Embed]

-HDoom has its 5th techdemo! happy now? http://www.best-ever.org/download?file=m12-hdoom-techdemo5.pk3

Mods that also got updated (these links include their respective download links for each mod, by the way)

Doom RPG (not the mobile game) - http://forum.zdoom.org/viewtopic.php?f=19&t=33292
Hideous Destructor - http://forum.zdoom.org/viewtopic.php?t=12973
Pirate Doom - http://forum.zdoom.org/viewtopic.php?t=32674
DoomRL Arsenal - http://forum.zdoom.org/viewtopic.php?t=37044
GMOTA - http://forum.zdoom.org/viewtopic.php?p=742401

ATTENTION! If you know about something news-worthy PLEASE reply to this so everyone can see it

REVENANTS WITH JETPACKS

what does mancubus say?

Doom 4 confirmed to be based off of Brewtal Dewm and beings with a tutorial section where you shoot caged imps to learn the controls.

>>1778918
We can at least breathe a sigh of relief it's not cowadoody, demon edition.

REVENANTS WITH JETPACKS

>>1778928
you're that anon that writes down porn names in filenames right

>>1778910
>>1777573

No, seriously, that frontend thing is really great, superior to everything else ever. Put that shit in the news.

>>1778936
yo I forgot because doom 4 okay

>>1778910
>[Embed] [Embed]

gg

>gmota's sword is called tear
That's really neat. God I wish I had played this sooner.
>>1778937
It's alright mate.


Hey, is Jenesis good?

>>1778940
just for you I'll make it [Embed] [Embed] [Embed] [Embed] [Embed] [Embed] [Embed] [Embed] [Embed] [Embed] next time
(probably not)

>>1778910
>Also for Xbone and PS4 so its designed is going to be crippled to accommodate dudebros playing with thumbsticks
>Sprinting

Fucking dropped.

>>1778947
>(probably not)

we'll see

>>1778917
I always think he's saying "MANCUBUS". No seriously.

>>1778948
>implying the original doom games don't have a sprint button
You probably forgot because you have auto-run on.

>>1778917
MUNWURR
and when it starts shooting ANDYPAH
and when it dies WUUHHR
so probably they are calling us sluts

>>1778959

They're telling us to check our thin privilege.

>>1778948
>>1778958
He probably means the kind of sprinting that not allows you to shoot while using it.

Even then I don't think that's the case here.

>>1778958
Sprinting and running aren't the same thing. Sprinting typically disables weapon functionality for a temporary boost in speed. Doom's running has no limit and is just a speed increase with no drawbacks.

>>1778917
I hear "omnibus", which according to Google is a volume containing several novels or other items previously published separately. Fatso confirmed for most well-read monster.

>>1778959
His Mom's a slut!

>>1778958

Nigger, Doom had an infinite run key. Sprinting implies some kind of modern run-until-your-stamina-bar-drains or go-fast-but-you-can't-shoot bullshit.

>>1778917
same guy here. I think I read somewhere else (or here) that mancubus said "l'humain!" when it found you.

with that said, you'll never unhear it anymore.

>>1778917
>Whaugh!
>Blaugh!

>>1778969
what a faggot, calling his mum a slut

>>1778971

No, sprinting implies sprinting.
Whatever other gameplay mechanics you want to imagine are attached to it are up to you.

>>1778976
His mom is a Succubus, she's a slut by nature it's not an insult it's a statement of fact!

>>1778983
oh, good point

>>1778971
I noticed that modern games that have sprinting only make you slightly faster, but increases the FOV to give the illusion of running a lot faster.

what if the thing that lets you sprint is the same that lets you double jump
a jetpack/thrusters
that you get to use in a zero-grav level

Am I bad or is the Catacombs stage in DOOM II that hard at the beginning?
I'm playing UV with fast monsters.

>>1778991
Sounds like Duke to me.

>>1778992

don't worry, the whole game takes another meaning with such a simple command like -fast

Literally any level can get nasty, just look at E1M3

Well, everybody who worked on Brutal Doom stuff must be chuffed with themselves at influencing Doom 4 this much. Mark especially.

>>1779003
Why did they choose Brutal Doom of all things to be influenced by?

>>1779003

No, actually, Mark is quite jelly. Very, very jelly.
He says "The current personal impact is terrible. [...] It's more like being a cannon fodder. Suddenly your 4 year-long hard voluntary work becomes somebody else's goose of golden eggs."

>>1779006

most popular mod

>>1779009

this is no laughing matter. I see there's some people who haven't cooled their heads after the nonsense that happened hours ago

any leaked shots yet?

sauce on the brutal doom guy quote?

>Reading the pastebin for Doom 4

This sounds far too good to be true...is it?

>>1779009

>>1779013
>sauce on the brutal doom guy quote?

The one I posted?
It's in the last thread.
>>1778308
>>1778138

>>1779009
>>1779012
>Contemporary game shares features with a contemporary mod.

It would have been weird if they weren't. While I love Brutal Doom and the innate shitstirring comes with it, it is hardly a creative or an innovative one. It is not the first one to have finishers nor it is the first one to paint the gameplay area red.

Though I can relate with "Suddenly your 4 year-long hard voluntary work becomes somebody else's goose of golden eggs." but he will to deal with it.

>>1778945

I'm glad you're enjoying it anon. I'm doing everything I can to make it not suck.

>>1779023
so how about we drop that? I was hoping for suggestions for my mod plan

>>1779028
Which mod/plan?

>>1779023
>Though I can relate with "Suddenly your 4 year-long hard voluntary work becomes somebody else's goose of golden eggs." but he will to deal with it.

I'm not sure why he's surprised considering BD follows along with most violent games of recent years by having as much gore, finishing moves, etc as possible. BD is not a pioneer in this aspect and to be surprised that a new game, especially a new Doom game, uses those same elements is pretty ridiculous.

>>1779006
If it's that or COD, Brutal everytime.

If you're meaning other doom related projects, to be fair other WADs had fast paced violent elements to them, Brutal just sort of "popularizes" things. From a marketing standpoint it's also extremely standout, many would think back to the first time they played Brutal at how spectacular the violence could be. Resident evil games have this as one of the selling points.

The only downside is there are still people who want to piss and whine about Mark every time he comes up instead of focusing on the mod itself, which just fosters a lower level of discussion because every time you tell them to stop they think you're Mark and whine even more.

>>1779009
Really?
I could sort of see why he'd say that but he should be glad at the influence he's put in. People will know the work of himself and others that contributed to Brutal were a big influence, it's giving back more and he does get the recognition which would be the main thing to be annoyed about.
That is always the thing content creators hate, not getting credited, but it should be obvious that it pretty much is credited and will only get more that way when the games out and people compare.

>>1778917
I think its either "HungryMao!"
or "I'm your mom!"

>>1779015
This image is kind of silly, but w/e.
>>1779026
You're succeeding, haha. Great work. Specially fond of the earthquake thing and the daggers.
Also I just watched the GMOTA deathmatch vid Term made. That was crazy.

>>1779037
>People will know the work of himself and others that contributed to Brutal
>but it should be obvious that it pretty much is credited

If only Brutal Doom had proper credits!

I forgot how Im supposed to organize my WAD files for Zandorum

>>1779042
Didn't Mark fix that?

>>1779041
>Also I just watched the GMOTA deathmatch vid Term made. That was crazy.

You're telling me, and what I'm taking away from Term's GMOTA videos more than anything is I need to add a lot of the music he's using in them for Blaz's soundtrack, he probably needs a complete makeover soundtrack wise

AXES TAKE SKILL

>>1779047

Nope.
There's still several areas not credited, he gives himself credit on others' work, not to mention how some people consider it skeezy for filling a credits file for your own mod with your own name everywhere.

>>1779023
>>1779034
We know that Brutal Doom takes features from many different sources, but it becomes something at least... intriguing, when all key features of Brutal Doom will be featured in Doom 4. Cruelty Bonus, Fatalities, Curbstomps, Monster vs Monster Fatalities, ridiculous Barrel explosions, etc. I don't think it's just coincidence, specially if you take into account that Matthew Hopper (former id director) took knowledge of Brutal Doom around the same date when they cancelled and restarted the game all over again. It's almost like they were saying "Oh, this is going to suck. It's a COD clone. Let's get some ideas from the fans and start everything from scratch".

>>1779047
Bazinga.

>>1779032
Dino Doom, Inspired behind the concept behind the Guardian of hell, the idea is that you play as a warrior of the doomed Saurian civilization, trying to avert your extinction at the hands of Hell's forces, I'm currently working out designs and unique game play features for it.

>>1779049
>AXES TAKE SKILL
I laughed at that.
Also that telefrag at the beginning with Term not even noticing was funny.

>>1779049

I assure you, axe takes the utmost skill.

>>1779050
>he gives himself credit on others' work

What pieces of work? Was he told about this by the artists?

>filling a credits file for your own mod with your own name everywhere.

Well, people need to know where shit comes from but Mark should have cleaned it up and put everything he did in 1 section so it doesn't look so egotistical.

>>1778917
uguu

>>1779051
I don't deny the influence, I just deny how much.

Some people claiming the entire game is basically BD probably aren't doing it justice. We've already had reports that it wasn't as BD-like as some tweets would suggest.

We'll have to watch whatever footage we eventually get to be sure for ourselves.

>>1779047
sorta, see >>1779015

>>1779060
that's Old Spice you plebeian! How dare you disgrace his image with AXE!

>>1779064
>What pieces of work? Was he told about this by the artists?

For example, the assault rifle, which is credited by Mark IV and edited by Mike12, when the exact opposite is true.
Yes, he was told this.
Mark's reaction essentially boiled down to "get bent".

>Brutal Doom v20 released
>Doom 4 released
>comparisons between the mod and the game starts to show up
>"why should I pay $60 on a game that I could get for free, and with customization and mod support?"
>Zenimax sends a Cease and desist letter to Mark

>>1779009
That's what you get when you work for free, building on top of what other people started. If you want to get paid, you chase a paycheck in the first place. At least mods get you exposure. That's really all he can ask for.

>>1779073
C&D Letters have no real legal weight to them

>>1779081
>C&D Letters have no real legal weight to them

is this nigga fukken joking

>>1779056
do you have any inspirations to draw from?

>>1779081
say this to that guys that tried to make Aliens Colonial Marines on Unreal Engine 2 one decade ago, and were gently curbstomped by Fox.

>>1779074
To be honest if he was going for a proper industrial career having Brutal Doom on his CV is pretty much the best thing that can happen. Otherwise who cares about Marks "feelings" and he can "get bent" out of shape as much as he wants.

>>1779051
Exactly, people trying to say "oh well, uh, other games have these things, zero connection!" are only deluding themselves. Mark didn't invent the concepts, but putting that stuff together and making it work in Brutal sure as hell popularized things.
Even fucking Romero comments on Brutal.

A lot of this I've found is people and their forum drama against Mark for bullshit I don't care about, wanting others to get involved and joining in their pissing match when I just want to play Doom, say this and you're Mark or something and they fly off the handle.

>>1779072
That's undeniably dickish, wasn't the sprite from a game called "NAM" as well?
Why he'd even do that is weird to me.

>>1779074
Exactly, if anything it adds to a portfolio of work if he ever goes into the industry. Plenty of guys in it have come from making mods.

>>1778917
"I'm your mom!" He's joking about how fat he is. It's self-deprecating humor, but also an insult towards your mother.

>>1779091
I agree. Having a mod on your resume (and a high-profile one at that) would probably get you an industry job just like that.

>>1779086
just some art I've been looking at, trying to give the sauroids a good feel to them without compromising hit box, Or should I switch up the hit box? That could be good.... I'm also tossing around game elements like claw melee, climbable walls, and trying to work out how the weapons will look and work

>>1779092
>wasn't the sprite from a game called "NAM" as well?

Yes.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ntZkcfJU7ys

The Doom Bible written in 1992 had you using someone's severed hand to operate a touchpad, this is nothing new.

They did the same thing in the much maligned Doom movie as well, as I recall

>>1779072
Mark did the base sprite, Mike12 did the reloading sprites. The big copyright issue is in the shotgun, and not the rifle.

>>1779105
yeah that was how The Rock got the BFG in that, I liked the look of it in that movie, also if the Bible had more Doomguy Im sure we'd have less fedoracores

>>1778916

>>1779043
Can you explain this better?

>>1779098
Where the fuck are the bottom right dinopeople from?

>>1779098
again Nobody cares!

>>1778254
>>1778259
>>1778263
>>1778265
>>1778276
>>1778284
>>1778908
>SAVE US FROM THE JETPACKS
>>1778916
>>1778928

The jetpackening has begun

>>>/v/253709476

>>1779098

Have you considered looking at Jurassic Rift? That might be good inspiration for weapons.

>>1779134
a silly mons game called Fossil Fighters, you dig up fossils and revive them into dinosaur like monsters to battle, there are two installments for the DS

>>1779135
Said the grain of pepper in a sea of salt.

>>1779098
Personally I think the top leftmost one would make it more plausable, but the more longnecked/raptory looking ones have that awesome feel.

Plus raptor kick.

>>1779141

>>1779148
well the plan is to composite the best elements in my final design, so likely the Gorn's stance with some of the kaiju's elements and maybe some carefully placed feathers

>>1779072
Isn't the assault rifle's sprite derived from an Alpha version of Doom 1 to begin with and then heavily modified?

YOU THOUGHT YOU COULD HIDE FROM THE AGITATION

>>1779192

That fucking fat skeleton

For those who missed it last thread, quake live is coming to steam.

>>1779192
LOL
Man, I remember when the thread that image is referencing first appeared. The OP had a good point, but the edits made were the funniest things.

>>1779205
He's not fat, he's just big boned.

>>1779216

>>1779221
saved reaction image, I'm just happy I got it/someone else in here gets it (you, 'cuz, you know, you posted it)

So...the devs and Betheshit do realize that no one is going to call this game simply Doom?

Mostly everyone will call it DOOM 4, and a select few may add a 2014/2015 at the end. That and the linear level design (unconfirmed) are the two things that are bothering me here.

>>1779221
Not again you don't.
>>1779216

>>1779153
>feathers

>>1779247

Come on anon, let me have a little fun.

I'm sorry for being a totaly noob but I'm new to all this and I can't figure out what to do.
I'm trying to play Doom RL Arsenal. I put the wads into the zdoom folder with all the stock wads but it won't detect it.
please help.

>>1779242
While I get slightly annoyed at a lot of Doom levels excessive maze-like qualities, I don't want linearity either.

You know what I want? A scoring system. Seriously, make speedrunning and cool kill combos something to strive for (but not necessary to progress in the game).

I'm fine with there being melee executions and shit as long as they aren't some spam shit and they aren't the main focus of the game (main focus being gunplay and interesting monsters/levels).

Nothing wrong with hyperviolence.

>>1779256

They're not supposed to be "detected".
Drag DoomRLA on top of GZDoom.exe and run it with Doom 2.

>>1779192
boy he seems a little big boned

>>1779256
What I do is take both the main DoomRLA file and the HUD, and throw them into a zip file. Then I just drag and drop the zip onto the executable

>>1779141
I can't wait for all the agitation maymays we get from Doom 4's revs.

>>1779083
You could send a cease and desist letter to anyone and they could laugh it off. It only carries legal weight if you're actually going to take legal action.

Zeni though. They might.

>>1779271

get boned

>>1779275
You take that back you...you...DOUBLE SKELETON!

But seriously, revenants with jet packs does sound pretty fucking terrifying. Imagine that on -fast.

>>1779268
>>1779262
Thanks much.
Is this how you run all mods?

>>1779281
and now they don't just right hook you
they rip your arm off to right hook you with

>>1779153
what about enemies? keeping hell timeless or in a state of evolution?

So what do we know about DEWM 4?

>>1779264
>>1779254
>>1779221
>>1779216
>>1779214
Jesus, I still have the whole "Making Of" of this thing on Puush.

>>1779286
See news post

>>1779283
I usually use a frontend like ZDL.
Others use drag-n-drop.
Still others use the command line.

>>1779293
>http://pastebin.com/W8P7fdq3
So it's Brutal Doom made by competent devs? Good.

>>1779301
>Beth
>Competent

I know I know, they're publishers.

But don't get hyped, anon.......cautiously optimistic. I don't want to see us all get burned.

>>1778892
>So I was just replaying Slough of Despare, this time remembering I have a map, and I realized the level was shaped like a giant hand, are there other levels shaped like body parts? Because that would fit nicely with the Icon of Sin's lore

allegedly House of Pain (e3m4), at least the first part, is meant to resemble the innards of the human body.

i never noticed this until it was pointed out, though.

>>1779305
Reminder that Beth published Dishonoured, which was bretty gud, and would have published Prey 2 which looked goddamn orgasmic. EA they're not.

>>1779307
>would have published Prey 2 which looked goddamn orgasmic
Before they killed it and Human Head.

>>1779307
It's gonna take a long time for them to earn back the goodwill they lost when I found out they pushed Fallout: New Vegas out the door months early.

>>1779313
>they pushed Fallout: New Vegas out the door months early
They didn't?

>>1779313
But FO:NV was better than FO3

>>1779317
They did.
http://jul.rustedlogic.net/thread.php?id=15410

Contained there is all the stuff that would have made it into the final game....plus of course way less bugs.

>>1779319
Indeed it was, anon.
Indeed it was.....but it could have been even better still.

>>1779306
there's also a map in Cleimos2 shaped like a giant foot. i won't post its title, it's too cringeworthy.

>>1779321
>It's Midnight Backup Time Again

Also, cut stuff doesn't mean shit. Stuff gets cut from all games, all the time. Obsidian are known to be bad with time management and also to bite more than they can chew. They got contracted to do FNV in the amount of time they did it.

>>1779326
Because extending contracts is hard, the game was only in development for 18 months as well.

Cut stuff means more things would have been there had there been more time to work on them, meaning a richer game.
Giving a tryhard stern talk on "well this time was there" doesn't take away from the point that had there been more time the game would have been better, Beth was even in charge of QA.

>>1779332
Yeah, but Obsidian should really learn to manage time and scope better. They fucked up a bit with FNV, but Pillars looks to be developed on a really tight schedule. I love that.
>had there been more time the game would have been better
No shit, but oh well. I'm still amazed they let them tamper with their IP. Anyway, denying them any royalties and making the bonus based on Metascore was a far bigger dick move.

>>1779339
It was, they may have even told QA to ok things because they were afraid they'd have to pay up, sadder still they were off by 1 point.
Cunts.
>their IP
Well some guys at Obsidian were original Fallout devs, but in legal terms it's now the property of Beth.

>>1779305

Beth aren't the best publisher, but I think people are too hard on them. They do some stupid shit at times, but I honestly see them as much preferable over Activision or EA.

>>1779354
Not to mention Bethesda themselves being shit on by Zenimax, alongside Id. And Zenimax taking Elder Scrolls and making a money-grubbing MMO out of it, but that's a different topic entirely.

>>1779354
It's not like people really hate them they are just really pissed because bugs and butchered Fallout lore.

>>1779348
I know (though actually very little of current Obs worked on FO1/2, Avellone obviously, ScottE, Menze Tim Cain wasn't in Obs back then), I meant in legal sense, yeah.

If you wanna hear a story about Obs getting fucked with time frames, you gotta love this, though: originally, they were actually contracted to make KotOR 2 in a year. They signed it, but somewhere in development they realized they don't really have enough time. So they went to Lucas Arts or whoever they worked with and asked for more time. They were told verbally "okay, sure, take your time". So the contract release date comes and they're suddenly told "Yeah, you know, we'd like you to release the game by the contract date. You don't get additional time." That's how much a verbal agreement costs, I guess.

>>1779354
Well I've read stories about Zenimax intentionally putting up impossible deadlines to make it look like the developer is failing at fulfill the contract and acquire them. Some really shady stuff.

>>1779354
>>1779358
>>1779360
Worse too is it's probably some faceless dipshits in suits who don't give a fuck about the game really and just see it as numbers on a spreadsheet.
Plus the butchering of lore is awful, a bit here and there is fine but the brotherhood in fallout 3 for example......cringe inducing.
Wish I had that image that goes over how silly much of it all is.

>Revenants now have jetpacks and can hover about while firing rockets at you.
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

>>1779369
>Worse too is it's probably some faceless dipshits in suits who don't give a fuck about the game really and just see it as numbers on a spreadsheet.

>>1779374
Sometime after Morrowind came out, Todd had a stroke and went insane.

>>1779375
Wasn't that time when he went CHIM CHIM CHAROO MOTHERFUCKERS or something?

>>1779375
Guys. I tried HDoom and is it just me or they used sound effects from MGQ?

>>1779380
ALL WORK AND NO PLAY MAKES TODD A DULL BOY

>>1779384

Some are, yes.

>>1779374
>See that yellow key? You can take it.

>>1779374 >>1779375 >>1779380 >>1779387 >>1779405
i have no idea what this thread is even about any more.

>>1779384
>mfw never played any of the games played in HDoom
>mfw can't associate any of the HDoom monsters with any animu chicks

We need a good old server going. Something to get our minds off of the chaos surrounding Betheshits shenanigans.

Anyone want to play some fucking doom, but with others?

>>1779395
I knew it. What about the other games?

Eyo guys, I need some help. Occasionally, I wanna play some BD but it's EXTREMELY unstable on both Gzdoom and Zandronum (especially in multiplayer). This instability either results in a client crash at best, or a system crash at worst. What's worse is that this issue has only gotten worse over time where even playing anything but BD can cause the crashes, albeit once in a blue moon. Can ya'll help me out?

>>1779414

The credits file lists Soulcalibur 4 and Street Fighter IV.

>>1779415
Download the sperglord edition
If shit's unstable then update GZDoom

>>1779417
Thanks.

>>1779417
>Soulcalibur 4 and Street Fighter IV.
Which sounds?

>>1779424
Go download SLADE, open the file, and look for yourself. God.

>>1779424

I wouldn't know. I'm not the dev.

/VR/ Gauntlet time
http://www.doomworld.com/idgames/index.php?random

All this talk about Revenants having jetpacks, but do they still AAAAAA?

>>1779461
Even if they don't, that will be a day 1 mod assuming the game supports modding.

>Mandrill Ass Project
>Map 3: Doomed City
More like
>Map 3: HOPE YOU FUCKING LIKE ARCHVILES

>>1779472
>Published by Bethesda
>implying they will take away their "fix it by yourselves" policy

So after the dust is settled, Doom 4 sounds like it might be alright.

My only concerns are how linear the levels are, how Doom or not Doom the melee combat feels, and whether or not keycards are a thing. I heard they're a thing, but I dunno if that was just a reference to that hand-scanning thing, which while sounding novel, hopefully isn't the solution to every door.

>>1779503
I think the linear level is because it's a demo level.

>>1779504
Well that's the hope, isn't it?

One other thing; Doom 1 and 2 have been kept alive for 20 years because of how easy is it to make maps and mods and all that.
Will Doom 4 have that support for the community? (I know we don't know yet.)

A demon ripped the player's arms off and beat him to death with them. The room was breaking out into a standing ovation.

A key feature will be stunning enemies with a shot, then smashing their face with your boots. It's happened five times already.

it's seriously just brutal doom lol

> Forget key cards. Player just ripped arm off guard to scan his fingers on a hand scanner.

Wait, that doesn't actually sound good.

>>1779526
You did it in Strife.

>>1779529

It would mean less exploration to find a key card, and exploration means quite a lot in the first 2 DOOM games.

>>1779526
Hopefully the guard was already a zombie or dead.

Because I don't think I like the idea of Doomguy doing that to innocent people.

>>1779534
Eh. You could still have to find the guard's body.

>>1779092
>Even fucking Romero comments on Brutal.
Romero has commented on a lot of things, he sent a letter of praise to the creator of KDIZD, that doesn't mean shit.

>>1779525
Or Gears of War, or Serious Sam, or God of War

>>1779534
Colored Keys and Doors were already confirmed anyways

>Pirate Doom still getting updated

That's nice. A shame that I only really want to play the new level instead of the entire wad again.

Doom 4 sounds pretty neat so far. Basically, the things given to players by Brutal Doom now in 3D. Hope it will not be too taxing on my PC, or lower/kill the DOOM modding scene for 1, 2 and related.

>>1779540
>Serious Sam
Totally this.

>>1779526
>>1779534
it's right out of the Doom Bible, you have to find the Colonel's Hand to get access to things

http://5years.doomworld.com/doombible/section07.shtml

>There is a flash of horrible light and energy and two gates open at equidistant points on the moon’s surface, the larger of the two at the lightside. Every awake is quickly killed. One reaching for the alarm button has his hand chopped off.

>Go through Depot 2, Mess toOfficers' Quarters. Get a Colonel's Hand. Use the Colonel's Hand to get into the control center. Get through Power Plant maze and trip the breakers. Power turns on. Use the Colonel's hand to gain access to the Lab (though monorail system, which is dangerous, because there's a lot of demons and not a lot of health) or through main lab entrance. Fight your way through the lab to the Anomaly passage, using the Colonel's Hand. Go down there, and kick some twin demon butt.

>>1779546
>or lower/kill the DOOM modding scene for 1, 2 and related.
shrug, we survived doom3, we'll survive this. and even if we don't i'm not even 10% of the way through /idgames yet

>>1779485
Rage wasn't very moddable IIRC.

>>1779529
And Prey

So is this actually going to use id Tech 6 or did someone accidentally mis-type it as that and everybody ended up believing it?

A while ago John Carmack said id Tech 6 was going to be ray-tracing mixed with raster graphics.

>>1779548

I don't believe in it, I'm an atheist.

>>1779565

Source: http://tinyurl..com/6xh93z

Not exactly what I said, but yeah...

I heard there was a WAD where you can fuck monsters, where is it? Don't ask why, it's for a friend.

>>1779565
A Doom atheist?

You'd hope it was a new engine, given the texture popping of id5.

Is it easy to make your own maps for doom?
>Read the fucking FAQ
Yes, yes, I'm going to give it a look, I'm just wondering how difficult it is. I've had some experience with Valve's Hammer for comparison, that's not too hard.

>>1779576
it's easier

>>1779449
If I made videos on doing random idgames wads, what source port/settings would be preferred?

Are there any doom WADs that are intended to be played with mouse-look enabled? i.e. maps with a heavy emphasis on verticality

Is such a thing even possible with the 2.5D engine?

>>1779581
personally i would prefer .lmps recorded with prboom in the appropriate compatibility level, but i expect i am in a minority

>>1779574
>it's for a friend.
of course, anon, of course...
check the "news" post, look for the hdoom techdemo

>>1779585
Yes and no. No true room over room, but GZdoom has some tricks that can pull it off. E.g., the Bantam map in Congestion 1024.

>>1779575

I'm not complaining, I'm just surprised they would come out with a new engine this soon. If it's true that is...

>>1779585
>maps with a heavy emphasis on verticality
I feel ID's maps are way heavier on having demons in high places that most user maps

>>1779541
>>1779552
That's not going to happen, at all. The chances of any mod tools being released for this game are non-existant, and nobody who mods for Doom is going to move to Doom 4 for fairly obvious reasons (ie they are completely different in nearly every way conceivable)

>>1778917

He says "come tomorrow"

>>1779576
Doombuilder is simple enough once you get all the mechanics figured out
Although you can't make rooms that are above rooms, so no traditional buildings or anything
But that only adds to the design of levels (arguably) so whatever

>>1779592
It could be they just slightly modified id Tech 5 and incremented the major version number, like browsers do these days. id Tech 5.1 does not sound as cool as id Tech 6. "But it's better now!"

Of course it's possible they did some major rework and added lots of new stuff, genuinely warranting an increment of the version number. We'll see when the game is released.

>>1779552
>>1779597
Remember Unreal Tournament?
Remember how big the modding scene was for that?
Remember Unreal Tournament 2k3/2k4?
Remember how big the modding scene was for that?
Remember Unreal Tournament 3?
...okay, but do you remember how the modding scene for that turned out?

I have to wonder, was it because UT/UT2k3/4 were relative simple, while UT3 was this huge graphical upgrade making non-shit skins/models/levels a huge difficult thing to make,
or was it because UT3 was shit?

>>1779602
they already "boosted" idtech 5 for wolfenstein TNO (and have no plans on making mod tools for this one, apparently)

so my guess is that it was so fucked they needed to do some heavy stuff for doom 4 and mod tools

Were the weapons in the center/is there an option to put weapons in the center?

Some anon asked in /v/ but got shouted down by some fucking retards who said it was unrealistic (seriously, what fucking faggots).

But I'd also really like to know, because to me it's kind of a big deal and it'd really get the feel of the game going for me.

>>1779604
>UT3
>Not having a lot of mods
u wot m8. I've only played the PS3 version and even that has a lot of mods

>>1779608
>going on /v/
Though that's the response I'd imagine from modern day /v/.
I hope so, if not, at least the option.

>>1779242
Wait, are they going to pull a reboot without numbering thing?
Fucking hell, it's annoying even if the original isn't a legendary game that's still widely played today, now it's just retarded.

>>1779609
comparatively at least

>people saying it's like Serious Sam
Guys, don't be throwing this around lightly.

Serious Sam is easily one of my top 3 favourite shooter franchises, and if you're mixing it with Doom, the big bad boy in 1st place of that top 3, you're going to send me into a panic attack from the excitement.

Guys please, you have no idea how much I fucking love the idea of Doom playing like Serious Sam. I've even written a gigantic, shitty guide on Steam for Serious Sam. Please guys, don't burst my heart from this excitement.

>>1779608

I'd be great if you had an option like that. They had those options in DOOM 3 (g_guny, g_gunx, g_gunz) to change the weapons' positions, but they were only fucking enabled by enabling cheats and they would always reset.

>>1779616
Calm down, it was only brought up as an alternative to where the ripping and tearing could have come from. It couldn't play like Sam anyways since there's infighting

Friendly reminder:
Blake Stone Source Code was released a year ago.

Are we going to see anything come out of it?

>>1779616
Why would you want Doom to play like SS? Why not wait for SS4?

Also there's no way in hell that fancy "new" id engine will support Sam-like numbers of enemies.

>>1779623
Anon I cried at SS3's announcement
Gotta give respect for Croteam though, they're not even hiding the development of SS4.
Somehow that seems like a rare quality for a development company to have, and we should have at least a strong gameplay trailer for it by the end of this year (probably depending on how the sales of The Talos Principle goes)

>>1779625
>>1779623
>>1779616
>Serious Sam wasn't made before 2000
>can't technically have a thread and discuss it on /vr/
Stupid shitty board.

>>1779625
>they're not even hiding the development of SS4.
What do you mean? Also, I'd love to see more info.

>>1779621

Supposedly the ECWolf guy is still working on it.

I can't wait for proper support !

>>1779630
No real new info, but if you follow Croteam's Facebook page, or the community "Seriously" page, and ask questions usually the PR dude will talk openly that the game is in fact happening and that they plan on showing it off before the end of the year.

No actual news though, except that they're really regretting how much hitscan they had in the full game (which was pretty much removed in the Jewel of the Nile DLC) with the soldiers and Technopolip/helicopters.

My best guess is that it's either ground to be a pre-prequel to SS3 where Sam in in another continent, or he will in fact be travelling to different planets as a replacement/sequel to the abomination that was SS2.

>>1779629
>Deus Ex
>Perfect Dark
>Diablo 2
>MvC2
>CvS 2000
>Hitman
>Red Alert 2
>All those other games

Fuck it

>>1779637
I might take the plunge and risk it sometime.
No way a mod would fucking ban someone for discussing a game between 2000-2003 that's having a good discussion, especially when you could refer to that game as 'retro'.

Wish the board didn't go by generations.

>>1779540
>that doesn't mean shit.

Any of us would be really chuffed if Romero commented to the doom community about any work that we make as it gets that much more recognition.
Why people with axes to grind think denying obvious realities will change perceptions just beyond me.

>>1778917
> "OM'NYH MA HAU"
> *BRRRSH BRRRSH BRRSH*

>>1779636
Ugh, but zombies were okay.
>or the community "Seriously" page, and ask questions usually the PR dude will talk openly
Hm, I do have a question I'd like to ask devs, you say there's a chance they'll even answer?

>>1779637
MvC2 and CvS 2000 are retro, anon. They both had DC releases. You could even talk about CvS2.

Important question I haven't seen answered or asked:

Doors in Doom 4. Do they make the door sound?
They did in that one trailer, but they might've just been for nostalgia grabbing.

>>1779643
Oh, the community page is run by members of the community. Granted, they come from the Serious forums who have deep ties with the developers.

You can text your luck, it's 50/50. As long as it's not some unreleased news you're trying to squeeze out of them, then you should get an answer.

>>1779647
>the community page
Oh, Facebook? Shit, I don't have an account. Oh well.

>>1779649
forums.seriouszone(com)
Worth a shot here if you wanna make an account.

>>1779612
they did it with doom3 as well, it didn't take. at least within the doom community, doom3 is always called doom3. i see no reason for doom4 to be different in this regard.

>>1779651
Yeah, okay, I guess I'll try that. Thanks.

>>1779608
Completely unrelated but that is the main reason I like to turn true iron sights off in New Vegas

>>1779653
>they did it with doom3 as well
Um.

>>1779657
i must be misremembering. it was years ago, but i distinctly recall doomworld posts conveying annoyance that doom3 would be called just "doom", making discussion difficult.

>>1779657
So the franchise is four games.
One being the classic, two being the sequel.
Three being the reboot despite having '3' in its title.. then four being the reboot without '4' in its title.. alright then.

Developers need to fucking think this shit through.

>>1779664
>Ignoring TNT, Plutonia and Doom 64

>>1779668
I was thinking PC only, my bad.
Don't even know if I want to count TNT and Plutonia, they seem separate to me somehow.

Might as well include Grazzo.

>>1779668
TNT, Plutonia and 64 were not done by Id.

Not even in name only like Doom 4 is.

>>1779668
>forgetting NRFTL

Nevertheless, TNT Evilution and Plutonia are PWADs, made by sellouts.

>>1779675
They still count in the series, and in the case of Doom 64 an actual sequel to Doom 2

Does anyone like how the enemies can kill each other ?
> be playing doom 2
> see a cyberspider and a cyberdemon
> hide in a corner
> STEALTH
> one boss takes a stray bullet from the other
> they start to kill each other
> cyberdemon wins
> then I kill him

>>1779686
Id didn't really acknowledge any of them though.

Like when Doom 3 was coming around they only talked about Doom 1 and 2.
No Final Doom or Doom 64 mentioned.

Which is a shame since I like Doom 64.

>>1779690
yes, i've wasted no end of time orchestrating monster fights and trying to use as little ammo as possible when i could just kill everything myself and get on with it.

wtf is this game

>>1779695
You're a fucking waffle, stop questioning it or eat slime.

>>1779695
The best game found in a cereal box, Waffle Mission

>>1779695
the kind of game that got distributed in cereal packs back in the 90's?

>>1779690
>this post straight from 1994 BBS

So lets just bust out the quick question here:

Who here is pleasantly surprised with what was announced? Almost all of us are relying on words from those relying on a few minutes of gameplay footage.

But what we heard and what they saw is pretty fucking phenomenal from what a let down we were immediately expecting to hear (cough, Doom 3 v.2 cough).

>>1779690
>large ass room filled with billions enemies of all types
>take out my fist
>punch the air
>"Let the games begin"

>>1779637
If a game runs on Windows 98, doesn't it fall into the category of games on platforms launched before 1999?

>>1779546
>lower/kill the DOOM modding scene for 1, 2

Doom community survived the Quake series, unreal series, Doom 3, and valve's stuff. Doubt it'll be any different when Doom 4 comes around.

>>1779707
I just want to see gameplay.

>>1779714
There's a ton of modern indie and/or shovelware games you can run on Windows 98, that slope is slippery as hell.

I expect the good qualities of Doom 4 to be made into a mod for Doom 1 and 2.
Then expanded and improved upon.

Doom's Mod community is kinda neat like that.

What's an overcharge system on DoomRL Arsenal and how do I pick it up and use it?

>>1779242
>linear level design

>>1779725
Isn't it an altreload that primes your gun to explode after one big shot?

>>1779690
>Any time Gotcha! is brought up in discussion anywhere the Cyberdemon always wins
>Nearly every time I've played through the level the Mastermind ends up winning

>Revenants now have jetpacks and can hover about while firing rockets at you.

>>1778917
>>1779598
I hear "come tomorrow" as well

>>1779668
Final Doom was more of a standalone expansion for Doom 2 rather than a full game of its own, IMO.

Day 1

we don't need him

Did any /vr/oopers happen to get any footage that has yet to be uploaded?

>>1779704
Don't be silly, they didn't use le meme arrows back then.
>This was used to quote text. Strange as it must seem!

Bump

>>1779793

the last thread reached bump limit in less than 12 hours, and it seems that it won't change for the rest of the weekend.

>>1779581
You can basically use (G)ZDoom for this, though you might want to set compatibility settings to Doom (Strict) when playing wads made with vanilla in mind, Boom (Strict) for Boom wads and Default settings for ZDoom stuff.

The High Power Minigun is so broken it's unreal

>>1778917
John Romero!

>>1779760

Apparently they took everyone's cameras, so probably not.

>>1779880
Any idea when they show the demo in public?

> Demo was played with an Xbox controller on a PC

> Xbox controller

Move on people. The game will be shit.

>>1779912
You really think we're gonna get a PC exclusive Doom in this day and age?

>>1779126
Sometimes when I open a custom wad Zandronum says "Select an IWAD to play" and most of the time I just select Doom 2 and it works fine, but for some reason I try opening some with Doom 2 and it just plays normal Doom 2. I think I have to put that wad file in a specific folder but I can't remember which one.

>>1779912
So the game claims to be retro AND to take influence from Brutal Doom.

But Brutal Doom does everything it can NOT be retro...

Yeah, it's going to suck. Everything's falling for their smart marketing though, no media but only a list of "retro FPS features" to try to appeal to people. As if those features alone were the most important and made a good game. I have a feeling it's going to be a mock-up of retro FPS and they have no idea how to handle the "retro features" they forced themselves to use.

>>1779915
No, I wanted a game designed for the PC with console ports, not a game designed for the consoles with a PC port.

>>1779919
Maybe because its a gameplay mod, not a map?

>>1779930
Like the old Doom. It got released to almost all consoles, but it still was a PC game.

>>1779932
That's very different. On one hand you have the first Doom, DESIGNED for PC; and then OTHER developers (and sometimes even publishers?) ported it to consoles.

And then you have the new Doom, specifically designed for both consoles and PC.

>>1779919
Have you checked if these wads were meant for Doom1?

>>1779540
KDIZD is one of the best Doom mods.

>>1779936
>And then you have the new Doom, specifically designed for both consoles and PC.
Which means that the game will be limited because of consoles.

Look at FEAR 2. Slower and dumber enemies compared to the first game, because aiming with the analog sticker takes more time.

FPS IS a PC genre.

>>1779937
I'm almost sure its >>1779931 and I need them in a special folder so Zandronum can ask me to play in that specific IWAD, like it does with Doom 2, Ultimate Doom, Hexen and Heretic

> Double-jumping

Is this for real?

I'm... intrigued.

>>1779938
LOL good one anon.

>>1779814
EE would be better to use that Zdoom. Even with compat settings Zdoom doesn't properly emulate a lot of Doom, particularly the movement, the ghost effect (can break some maps), and some other critical shit.

>>1779945
I don't think that's posible. Try using launchers.

>>1779949
I still have to see a better single-player mod.

good god do I want to see that gameplay video

carmack why hath thou forsaken us

> lighting and atmosphere a lot like Doom 64.

Yay

>Brutal Doom takes 100% of its content ideas from other things that had been doing it way before it and 90% of its actual content from other people's work
>Its creator gets upset when Doom 4 rips it off
TOPKEK

>Expecting a rip-off of a rip-off to be good
>Actually caring about a modern id game

>>1779961
We only care 'cause it's Doom, I don't think many of us gave much of a shit about Wolf: TNO or Rage

Is there a port that lets me play DOOM on android?

>>1779814
>>1779950
if he's only making videos it doesn't really matter what he uses

>>1779962
what if it was exactly the same thing but named "Attack on Mars"

>No cameras were not taken up at the door to the event, but they had a ton of staff standing on each row just watching people like a hawk. There was a few people they went to right away when they saw their cell phone taken out and told them to leave. They told people numerous times before the event started and played a short clip stating dont take you cameras, phones, or even google glasses out.

>>1779581
Are there any Doom let's players that aren't shit?

>>1779956
>carmack why hath thou forsaken us
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oLg2yAiliC8

>>1779967
I probably wouldn't give a shit

>>1779967
>>1779962
It might as well be. Old school Doom is a complete product of its time and an isolated experience. Any new Doom game is its own thing and must be its own thing.

>>1779967
no one would complain about the doom movie if it was called "genetic mutants in space!"

>>1779978
I would. It was a pretty shitty genetic-mutants-in-space movie.

>>1779971
Psychedelic Eyeball is always good, but I've noticed 4Chan hates Something Awful
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r-SoE7CG_H0&list=UUeOxS5migP882araMGedONg

Terminus also has a channel, but it isn't LPs

>>1779682
NRFTL is a PWAD too, in fact it's more of a PWAD in that it ACTUALLY IS a PWAD unlike TNT and Plutonia which had the common courtesy to be IWADs

>>1779983
I mean't more new content and not just playing the original a billion times, like someone who actually knows a lot about Doom

>>1779991
the BFG edition IWAD is a PWAD. whoever made it does not have a clue, has so little clue it is insulting

Is there any 3D game that plays anything like Doom?

>>1779996
IWAD means that it can run with no other content being loaded. You can not run NRFTL, any version, without it loading Doom 2 first. BFG Edition Doom 2 is still an IWAD.

>>1780002
Doom plays a lot like Doom

>>1779996
>can be run standalone
>has all the lumps that you typically find in an IWAD only
>first four bytes are literally IWAD
>not an IWAD

okay

>>1780008

Doom II is also a pretty similar to Doom

>>1780010
>>first four bytes are literally IWAD
this is not what i was told.

>>1780018
Heard good things about Plutonia, too.

>>1780018
>Doom II is also pretty similiar
Are you retarded? Doom II has shit maps, the new weapon feels overpowered and the new enemies are crap and die too fast.

>>1780002
If there was it wouldn't be on console
:^)

>>1780030

you're right, I must be drunk again

>>1780002
EYE: Divine Cybermancy does the whole "shooting demons with guns while going fast" thing. It even has cyberdemons, and they're killed by shooting them until they die. Close enough if you ask me.

>>1780039

>filename

i chortled

>>1780039
I found DEs to be really unfun to fight since you can't really dodge its attacks (well, I guess if I had light armour and a ton of leg upgrades), but it's so easy to cheese with BK 444.

>>1779971
Your best bet is Tarnsmandw on twitch, he can be dickish but he does know a lot about doom.

>>1780049
Nah, his primary shots are hitscan, there's no dodging them no matter how fast you go. It's pretty funny seeing how they react to getting shot with a rapid-fire weapon if you're in their line of fire.

>>1780064
>Nah, his primary shots are hitscan
Oh, even that? That's a bit of a bummer, then. I did kill the first one with the minigun, but that took 5 or 6 resurrectors...
>It's pretty funny seeing how they react to getting shot with a rapid-fire weapon if you're in their line of fire.
What happens?

>>1780065
He shoots back at the same speed your gun is firing at. It's hilarious (for the few seconds you survive, anyway) if you're using the HS010's alternate mode or the Sulfatum.

>>1780060
don't forget to turn your headphones down. in fact, if you watch him live you can turn the sound off because you can hear him shouting from across the continent.

>>1780070
Oh, so that happens as well? Goddamn it. The worst part is that, with the way the whole game is, I'm not even sure if it's a bug or a feature.

>>1780089

.....what is that ranking on the side mean

>>1778917
One time I wrote a song called Mancubus Down.
http://music.onslaughtsix.com/track/mancubus-down

>>1780091
Best games of the generation.

>>1780089

Um, what's with the stupid games on the side?

>>1780101

>>1780073
more like anywhere on the planet

>>1780030

WHAT? I disagree, DOOM II's map layouts are much better.

>>1780091
>>1780102
probably his favourite games or something

>>1780030
>and the new enemies are crap
Now you fucked up

>>1780117

... God I hope not.

>Check FAQ

>http://data.vectec.net/zdl/qzdl/ZDL-3.2.2.2-stable.zip

>cant open site

What gives

Why is Hellbound so shit?

unrelated but is anyone else having problems with chrome?

>>1779260
A score attack mode seems like it'll be more in line for Serious Sam, rather then Doom

OC donut steel. Are there any good Doom arcade fighter mods?

>>1780182
/g/ mode activate! I always had problems with Chrome. Switch to Firefox, it'll be a lot less agitating

>>1780227
Steeling right now

>>1780238
normally Chrome has been good to me, I think it might have to do with this computer's idiotic bing bar

>>1780241
Why the hell do you have Bing? Uninstall that shit friend

>>1780227
fukken steeled

>>1780247
I cant, this isn't my computer and I'm on a guest profile, I didn't want it to begin with

>>1780250
UNINSTALL IT, FRIEND.

>>1780089
Didn't realize he was this much a military nut. All hope is lost with this man now.

>>1780227

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yeWhOBAkzPQ

>>1779695

The game is YES.

>>1779826
It is for the Marine, then again, that's the best class in DoomRLA

>Marine can have power, crowd clearing and sustainable fire all rolled into one weapon
>Scout has to choose between power and sustainable fire (unless he gets the Nuclear Plasma Storm Pistol) and have to go outside his expertise for the crowd clearing
>Technician gets a early game boost but suffers at late game when his passives became somewhat useless
>Renegade has power and defense, but lacks sustainable fire unless he get the Quadshotgun. Somewhat offset with the insta-switch with weapon. Easily the 2nd best class.

>>1780089
At least he didn't say Modern Warfare 3
or Ghosts

fuck you all

>>1779964
All the ones I've seen seem to be paid. I'm using an app called Doom Touch, which has PrBoom+ and Chocolate Doom. Touch controls feel awkward as fuck to me, though.

>>1780227
Jojo wad when?

>>1779732
I've seen it go both ways...

>>1779962

Wolf TNO was legit really good so.

>>1780227
>No 'To be Continued' arrow

>>1780227

Working on one right now, complete with combo system and super meter. Hopefully I'll be able to release soon.

Is there any .zip or .rar with a shit ton of recommended wads?

>>1780260
I'd need to run it as admin and I don't have the password

>>1780287
I just started it, and I'm not really enjoying it so far. Seems like all I've done is walk in a straight line with some turrets and crouch behind cover

>>1780304

>MODERN SHOOTERS

>>1780295
Two links at the the top of the thread.

>>1780295
Try piratebay.

So, when can we expect a full release of HDoom?

Just curious.

Cough.

>>1780324

never

>>1780304
It's not that bad. There is enough small side paths and secrets to make it interesting. The game also really rewards you for looking around and exploring. For instance the level where you go through a nazi outpost, it has plenty of small side paths (and a different one depending no which partner you decided to save) and there is also a 'hidden' powerful and useful weapon (first time you get it) if you look around and explore. I hadn't seen this kind of things in modern FPS in a long time.
Gunplay is also very satisfying.

No really the game was really fun. The main issue with the game is that it tries REALLY FUCKING HARD NOT to be a game and to be a movie; and there is more than 1/3rd of the game that's just doing errands or walking around with no enemies; for the sake of the 'story'. Though that's a complain for most modern games and that's why modern gaming fails (games that tries to be movies will ALWAYS fail; because a game is a game and a movie is a movie; and a game trying to be a movie just doesn't fit and feels like a cheap movie knock off).
They had a good game going on but ruined it with shit like that. But as far as level design and gunpaly is concerned, it's actually pretty good. Most of the times you don't HAVE to take cover, either; or at least it's not that cover heavy.
But i had tons of fun with it, I 100%'d it, took me 28hours; but past that it has zero replay value. The skill cap is rather low.

>>1780324

I would assume when all of the sprites and monsters are done.
PS: Great job posting porn on a blue board.

>>1779585
>>1779593
Yeah, the funny thing is that stock Doom maps still have more verticality than most modern games, even without the ability to look up and down. Most games today rarely bother to put enemies up on a balcony, if that.

So... No leak then?

>>1780324
porn isn't allowed on blue boards, just an fyi
you may want to either delete your pic or expect to be hit with something

>DoomRPG + DoomRLA
>Want to sell a weapon and buy a new one to reset the mods I put on it
>Every time I buy the weapon again, it also comes with the mods again, and I can't put more than four mods
Is this supposed to happen?

>>1780347
I thought just dropping weapons empties all the mods from them unless they're assemblies

>>1780307
Well, Blood Dragon was a fun shooter

>>1780331
Well, maybe I'll give it another try, I only got through a bit of the castle, so maybe it'll pick up? Damn it, after people on /v/ saying how good it was I really though I'd enjoy it more

>>1780350
>Well, Blood Dragon was a fun shooter
I strongly disagree.

>>1780353
I know that it gets a lot of flak because of the whole aesthetic and its brand of humour, but I'm easily amused

>>1780353

I strongly disagree with your disagreement.

>>1780335
you can post all the gore and violence you want. but a nipple? heaven forfend!

>>1780359
But aesthetic/humor are the only notable things about it. The gameplay is FC3 (a pretty casual shooter), only with main character made 10 times more powerful. It's like playing Doom on ITYTD, and all the enemies are hitscanners or cyberdemons.

>>1780362
That was pretty much my complaint as well I just wish modern shooters took a break from hitscans. It takes skill out of the equation

>>1780368
I don't mind hitscanners; some of my favorite FPS use almost exclusively hitscan enemies! The way BD did that just wasn't any good, though.

>>1780350
Yeah it picks up after the castle.

>>1780362
I liked FC3, casual though it may have been... It was fun to go pure bow in it.

>>1780374
Well, I'll go at it again then, thanks

>>1780368
So what is a hitscan, exactly?

>>1780391
A MISERABLE PILE OF SHOTS THAT HIT THE TARGET INSTANTLY AND ARE IMPOSSIBLE TO DODGE

>>1780373
I like fps because I like fast-paced combat and movement, hitscanning is fine as long as it's not too prevalent. I don't like being forced to take a break from the action to avoid damage.

>>1780391
Hitscan is normally used with guns, basically the bullets are fired and if something is in the line of fire then it has a chance to get hit instantly.

>>1780391
Spider Mastermind
Zombiemen
Sergeants
Arachnotron
Shotgun

>>1780391
instead of launching a projectile which travels at a finite speed until it hits something, the game simply draws a line segment extending from the attacker's position until it intersects with something else. if a wall or floor it spawns a bullet puff, if a shootable thing it spawns a blood splat and the thing takes damage. this all happens instantly.

>>1780402
>arachnotron

>>1780402
one of these things is not like the others...

heh but seriously someone on doomworld (i forget who) said the archvile's attack is similar to a powerful hitscan shot with a long wind-up time. i had never thought of it that way, but it is essentially true.

>>1780402
Arachnotron isn't a hitscanner, it shoots plasma balls.

>>1780408
BFG is a hitscan weapon with a weird wind-up mechanism.

>>1779971
LPrs that comment over gameplay, I don't know any good ones.
But there are some guys that play hard wads and shit and they're pretty boss, there are some in the /doom/ playlist.

>>1780407
>>1780408
>>1780409
Oh shit, you guys are right. I usually just lump it in with them because of how fast the shots are

>>1780408 (me)
i mean, it certainly isn't implemented as a hitscan ray, it just checks line of sight and damages you if so. but that is an implementation detail, to the player i can see how it resembles a hitscan.

>>1779526
fuck off namefag

>>1780418
You must be new here or joking, either one

How do I edit map music and such? Also where do I upload a map that's not quite perfect but is finished?

>>1780430
>How do I edit map music and such?

find the name of the music lump corresponding to your map slot and replace it. e.g. map01 is D_RUNNIN, map28 is D_TENSE, etc.etc.

>Also where do I upload a map that's not quite perfect but is finished?

any suitable file hosting service. lots of people seem to use mediafire as it is not prohibited by 4chan's spam filter (i wonder why, did they pay moot off to disallow all the other common hosting services, or something..?)

>download doom 1.03 for android
>no music

>>1780408
Ya, that is often said here too.
>>1780421
Joking, but looking back on it it was pretty shitposty.

>>1779945
What are you trying to play?

>>1780442
This makes me kinda mad.
Doom has a large ass community. Whats stopping us from making a handheld just for Doom, or even better: Retro FPS, supporting all modern source ports?
>Linux OS
>OpenGL
>720p / 1080p
>USB Ports / WLAN / Ethernet port
>etc...

Controls would be similiar to PS or Xbox, you could Femicon Bluetooth controllers too

>>1780456
>Femicon
I meant Famicom....

>>1779657

>>1780461
Works better with the HK on the background IMO.

>>1780463

>>1780475
What game is that?

>>1780482
camedy gold
>>1780483
Looks like it's called "Screenshot Doom Reverie".