/vr/ - Retro Games

Also the lack of weapons is pretty meh tier.

The game basically forces you to use the pistols for ranged and the assault rifle in CQC but the Zeus Pistol is way better than the AR.

God damn does this game really need a shotgun. Doom really hit it on the head with that damn thing.

>>1778730
I'm one of the doomest doomers around but I really did love Marathon.
I'll assume you're playing 1, it is less navigable than Doom but it's main focus is it's (awesome) story.

Marathon 2 and Infinity are where it really picks up, especially in regards to scenery but the main character in the game, Durandal is really what keeps things flowing. Cooler enemies and weapons too.

Marathon's fan add ons are really great as well and deserve a look. Easily the most memorable for me is Marathon EVIL, one section has you diving into a gigantic lake to swim down to a crashed spaceship and go inside to fight xenos, great times.

Worst comes to worst, there are walkthroughs around but just go in knowing it's not going to be lightning quick gameplay (still gets fast at times though) and you'll have an easier time dealing with it.

>>1778741
You must be playing Marathon 1 if your complaining about a lack of weapons.

Anyways I too am a Doom fanboy but Marathon is an excellent series. The story is really great, and the level design is not meant for fast game play like Doom. Many of the maps have puzzles and such, its more like a mix between Doom and Myst or something.

Rumor was, back when Bungie penned the deal with Activision to do Destiny, they also planned for a small scale re-entry into the Marathon series with a smaller team. I haven't heard anything more about that though.

>>1778750
>>1778754
Alright. I'll finish up Marathon 1 and get to Marathon 2 as fast as I can.

Do they at least add more weapons?

>>1778767
Yes, 2 gives you another alien weapon and a shotgun (which can be duel wielded) and Infinity adds a sub machinegun you can use underwater.

>>1778754
>more like a mix between Doom and Myst
Not OP or a Marathon player, but from what I've gathered it's pretty close to Doom x System Shock 1. Can fans confirm/deny/explain?

>>1778821

It's like Doom with more with more switch-hitting and less run-n-gun. Also, each level is designed as a "fuck you" to the player.

It's the door for Macfags that needed something to reassure them they bought the right computer because back then Doom didn't have a Mac version, so all they got was Marathon.

>>1778847
>It's the door for Macfags that needed something to reassure them they bought the right computer

As somebody that owned a mac back in the day, the game that did that for me was Realmz.

you're not wrong. Macgays just told themselves this was a good game because it was all they had.

>>1778865
>>1778847
but, it was good ;_;

and this was back when mac users were not all pretentious SJW fedoras who overpaid for things, instead our moms bought the computer

>>1778741
Weapons are okay, but the game definitely needs a shotgun. Good thing punching's fun, if somewhat riskier than it ought to be. The kill-joy most often is crappy-ass strafing. Some enemy encounters were designed in mind with Doom's strafing speed, not Marathon's, which is genuinely bad for the player. Most of Marathon's qualities come from the miniature puzzles and large, trap-laden maps you speed through. I've heard the sequels are much superior for various reasons.

I've never bothered to seek this game out and play it. I'm willing to put up with a lot of jank in old games if they have some neat aspects or provide historical perspective for the genre. Any fans that can tell me why Marathon is worth my time? Or should I just read up on some trivia, watch a few videos, and call it a day?

>>1778923
The only thing marathon has going for it a story tie-in with the Halo series.

Total shit.

>>1778929
No one is going to listen to you with that kind of attitude.

>>1778923
At least try the opening map. It's well-designed, shows off some of the game's strengths and weaknesses, and has a cool secret area you'll feel tempted to find thanks to the floaty physics. Good music, too.

>>1778891
>and this was back when mac users were not all pretentious SJW fedoras who overpaid for things, instead our moms bought the computer

That was ALWAYS the case for mac fags. Literally ALWAYS.

>>1778730
>did this game not age well or something
No, it was always a mediocre shooter with a "story" that's essentially a lot of references and allusions to other media and very little meat to it.

>>1779030
Not always, there were uh....other times.......

Fuckit, mum bought the computer, you're right
:(

>>1778891
>implying there's something wrong with being pretentious SJW fedoras who overpay for things

>>1779107
Fedoras look like shit and the only people allowed to wear them are men over 45, preferably in South America where they're still fashionable...and women. Nobody else looks good with them and those thinking they can pull it off are the worst because they're the most deluded.
SJW diatribes foster a lower level of public dialogue with constantly incorrect pandering and misunderstanding of issues because of race/sexuality hustling, going for emotional reactions and guilt worship instead of thinking practically about issues and overpaying for things just sends a signal to other companies that aforementioned idiots will pay more than a product is actually worth so poor industry practice continues.

>>1779116
>implying there's anything bad with all that

>>1779123
Well we can clearly see there's nothing good about it.

>>1779127
>we
multiple personality?

>>1779132
My mistake, I assumed you could process facts.

I and anybody else who can read properly can see there's nothing good about it.

>>1779138
>I and anybody else who can read properly can see there's nothing good about it.
[citation needed]

>>1779158
I can say the same of what you say, since paying more for a product than it is worth is widely considered worse than paying for what it is worth, unless you're a financial masochist and/or aforementioned idiots.
Run along now.

>>1779167
>implying worth isn't subjective

Is this seriously the direction this thread is taking? For christ's sake guys.

Anyone know anything about Aleph One and if it's worth playing? Looks kinda cool.

http://alephone.cebix.net/

>>1779180
It's just Marathon ported to modern platforms.

>>1779174
>I enjoy paying hundreds of dollars more than I should for electronics

>>1779180
yes, it's worth getting

>>1779180
It's what I use.

>>1779180
meant to add a pic

>>1779197
>more than I should
>implying that's not subjective

>>1779193
Oh, so it's not a new game/campaign? The description makes it sound like you CAN run the original Marathon but it's a new game in its own right. Hm.

>>1779202
>go there, destroy that
masterful story right here

>>1779215
>endlessly floundering around with this subjective borderline post modernist, sophistic nonsense thinking that if you speak nebulously and condescendingly while communicating poorly, you make a ghost of a point

good thing you're held up here and not shitposting in other threads
:\

>>1779217
Nah, it's a source port basically.
Well, ok there is a small change.

When you first start the first level of Marathon you're in a level of Pathways Into Darkness, but it's just a cameo reference, no monsters or whatever.

>>1779217
That's my impression from the page you linked:
>To play Aleph One, you will also need Marathon scenario (graphics, sound and map) data files

>>1779236
>subjective borderline post modernist, sophistic nonsense
are my posts 3deep5u?

>>1779236
>When you first start the first level of Marathon you're in a level of Pathways Into Darkness, but it's just a cameo reference, no monsters or whatever.
They actually took this out of recent versions of M1A1, thank god

Marathon's good. I can definitely understand the complaints, M1's graphics and level design always felt shareware-tier to me even when I played it back in the day. But they do get better in 2 and Infinity. Story's good too but that aspect of it gets blown out by people over-interpreting it, and in turn, other people making fun of them for over-interpreting it. But it's just solid. In retrospect it's a poor replacement for Doom, but managed to pull off an atmospheric FPS pretty early which is neat in its own right.
>>1779180
How did you manage to find Aleph One's page from 9 years ago and not the new one on Sourceforge?

>>1779434
>How did you manage to find Aleph One's page from 9 years ago and not the new one on Sourceforge?
>not using the retro internet

>>1778730
It's the poorman Strife.