/vr/ - Retro Games

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NEWS
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-Here's a cool online radio that only plays Doom music, 24/7; feel free to listen if you're interested http://liquiddoom.net/doom

-Some anons did a 200 min. speedmap WAD and this is the result! http://www.doomworld.com/idgames/?id=17781 COMPLETELY VANILLA, tell us what you think!

-Don't forget to (re)watch this year's Summer Games Done Quick, as it featured Doom 64 and an Ultimate Doom race! Also, the past AGDQ featured Plutonia and a Doom 2 race; to rewatch said games, see this link http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLQcxg3SUqlYBoSYrpNJVu58GsoCXMREa1

-Wanna see John Romero deathmatching in 2014? Do you live in England? He will be present at Revival '14 on August 9, see more details here http://www.doomworld.com/vb/post/1283115; for reference, this happened at GDC http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLXkipPv0b4KMKE7z3WwlYYUCDLACNoYfE..

-Metroid Dreadnought IS OUT! - http://zandronum.com/forum/showthread.php?tid=4561&pid=61847#pid61847

-Also The Space Pirate got an update! Check the latest ver. here! https://drive.google.com/file/d/0BxbbtKR5bll_anFPaVhUQVZqcnM/edit?usp=sharing And be sure to check this tutorial http://youtu.be/mrFF8LCZw5Y [Embed]

-HDoom has its 5th techdemo! happy now? http://www.best-ever.org/download?file=m12-hdoom-techdemo5.pk3

Mods that also got updated (these links include their respective download links for each mod, by the way)

Doom RPG (not the mobile game) - http://forum.zdoom.org/viewtopic.php?f=19&t=33292
Hideous Destructor - http://forum.zdoom.org/viewtopic.php?t=12973
Pirate Doom - http://forum.zdoom.org/viewtopic.php?t=32674
DoomRL Arsenal - http://forum.zdoom.org/viewtopic.php?t=37044
Doom The Golden Souls - http://forum.zdoom.org/viewtopic.php?p=661646
GMOTA - http://forum.zdoom.org/viewtopic.php?p=742401

ATTENTION! If you know about something news-worthy PLEASE reply to this so everyone can see it

Having played spreglord edition I feel foolish fo bothering with normal brutal doom

>>1764653
take a look on Moddb and check how many amazing mods RAGE has.

>>1764690
I thought that was because Rage sucked an no one wanted to bother with it

>>1764705
RAGE was quite descent. Graphics ahead of it's time (if wasn't for the texture popping) and very fun gunplay.

Fucking Shadow Warrior's Room Over Room system is DRIVING ME NUTS

all my SEs seem to be right, so do the height of floors, and it's still glitching out on me; and now trying to launch the game to test after changing stuff around (trying to figure out what's wrong) froze my computer!

Fucking fuck. This game is a hellish mess as far as making its effects are concerned

>>1764657
>Old habits die hard, need I remind you ID started by "lifting" Softdisk's computers during closed hours.
Hah, I guess that wouldn't be too farfetched. Just another loss for him to cut.

Is it a good idea to put a nano mod on a high power minigun?

Are there any good mods for Hideous Destructor?
I understand the game's supposed to be slow and realistic and all but I find it retarded I can't just know how dead I am without having to take stock.
As a person I should be able to go "Yeah I feel like something's punctured in my chest."

>>1764834
>good mods
Good HUDS. My bad.

>>1764834
>>1764836
I don't think anyone's had the balls to do any more than sound/sprite mods for HD. I got around the minimalistic HUD by using a chat bind that gives me the exact values for my health, armor, and primary and secondary ammos with a single button press.

>>1764821
No, the standard reload time is much faster than waiting for 130 bullets to regenerate.

>>1764834
Ultimat visor is vanilla compatable now

>>1764856
FUCKING DRUNK BARRELS, GET OUT.

>>1764851
I still somehow end up sober following few hours I'll give "feedback" a shot. This is pretty good though >>1764861. But I'd still like to give it a shot with out red jam and cracks.

>>1764862
no kyle, YOU get out

>>1764862
Hey kyle, has anyone else been getting this issue relating to the lockdefs besides me?

>>1764871
I told you, post a full log, not a screenshot of the end of it that tells me basically nothing.

>>1764875
http://pastebin.com/LznUnDjA (am I doing the log thing right?)

>>1764870
W-what? What the fuck?

>>1764882
Okay. Don't put the DRLA wads in the Doom RPG folder, that's going to absolutely break everything ever.

https://www.mediafire.com/?appfqb4a5l5nh26

I was bored and had 2 hours to spare.

Enjoy the agitation

>>1764921
what port/complevel?

>>1764930

Gzdoom for dat lighting, preferably. It will work in Zdoom also.

>>1764867
The jelly can be taken out with some armor power ups

>>1764886
In Hideous Destrcutor, not even the decorations can be trusted.

>>1764935
oh. i was just wondering if i tried to demo it, will i get stuck anywhere... it _appears_ to be doom2 complevel. there's no linedefs>141 or sectors>17. there's no fake manuals, detectable implicit passuse, solid hanging bodies in tall sectors, unknown textures or flats, anything like that. pr+ loaded it without error.

>>1764953
i suppose there's no way to know if it requires jump/crouch/freelook. a way to determine that programmatically would be very difficult

>GZDoom crashes on launch when I try to play Doom RPG using its own launcher
>Using latest SVN build of GZDoom
>Tried wiping my entire goddamn ZDoom folder, weren't keeping all my WADs there anyway except for the total conversion mods for ZDoom like ECWolf and Action Doom 2
>Still get the same problem
>Nobody else seems to be getting the same issue, and Doom RPG Launcher seems like it's trying to launch GZDoom on top of GZDoom
>"Maybe it's a problem with GZDoom, I'll wait until the next SVN build"
>Still no new build since June 27th
>mfw
Fuck.
I guess I'll just try to find a way to make it work with ZDL instead.

How big is the doom rpg zip?
I have limited data and would like to try it out

>>1764968
You don't happen to have an AMD GPU, do you?

>>1764991
I do, actually. Radeon HD 7770. I used to be able to play older versions until I downloaded version 0.8.5 of the launcher.

>>1764993
Try putting -sm3 in the custom command line.

I use a lot more shaders in the latest version of DRPG, but apparently AMD are a bunch of fucktards who don't know what standards or good drivers are so GZDoom barfs and takes a shit when it tries to load them.

>>1764996

>>1764996
>but apparently AMD are a bunch of fucktards who don't know what standards or good drivers are
AMD's drivers are very closely written to the OpenGL spec, and will die horribly if a program does something nonconformant. nVidia's drivers will plow through whatever shitty code you throw at them, which makes it a nightmare to debug with.

>>1764996
It finally worked... I can't believe it. Thank god.
>mfw can't trust AMD anymore but can't afford a high end nvidia gpu, which in turn had me planning to buy an R9 280x
Being a poorfag is suffering.

>>1765006
They can be as closely written to the GL spec as they want, doesn't make them any less coded by crack monkeys who smash their face into the keyboards and call it a driver.

>no mod tools planned for TNO
we'd need a miracle...

>>1764986

>mfw setting the sound output format to 8-bit in ZDoom

>>1765034
RIP in peace, Anon's ears

>>1765010
You certainly sound like you have a lot of experience in systems programming.

>>1764891
Not the same person, but I put the .WADs in a completely different folder (i.e. my PWADs folder) and told the launcher to look there for WADs and PK3s, and I get this error.

Log: http://pastebin.com/yq1z4VTV

Do I have to rename the DoomRL files or something?

>>1765092
Did you check both the WADs in your WAD folder and the patches in the left? Should look something like this.

>>1765108
Ah, there we go. My bad.

>>1765034
>>1765050
Fucking shit you guys weren't kidding
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ejHr4ewzHws

>>1765126
Hey, the Chorus of Farts is back!

>>1765147
>Sega Seal of Quality

I just downloaded Quake and holy shit this is great. The air movement is great, you move fast, everything's awesome.
Question though, is Darkplaces a bad sourceport to use? I heard people diss it, because it fucks with the physics or something.
Some anon did >>1763297 and that's what I've been using to guide myself.

TWO FOR THE PRICE OF ONE SOUNDS LIKE A BARGAIN RIGHT?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7j80dMZBSOc

no

>>1765180

just get ezquake/nquake and after recovering from the disgusting default config, set the graphical preset to 'faithful'

>>1765126
>Merzdoom

>>1765026

>background texture doesn't tile perfectly

>>1765180

Dark Places is basically the equivalent of GZDoom; it's hardly vanilla at all, but it's easy to set up and use. So for people who prefer Quake old-school flavor, Dark Places is definitely not a good source port.
Engoo is what I personally prefer.

>>1765180
Oh, and if anyone wants the link, it's in this updated pic: >>1764878

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4_FJbM4Rr6M

Hey guys you like DM mods where you have to do absolutely nothing to win, the weapons freeze you in place, take way too goddamn long to cast, topped with godawful sprites?

THEN LET'S GO BACK TO ANIME WORLD

>>1765224
>the weapons freeze you in place, take way too goddamn long to cast,
just like a real episode of dbz

>>1765240
AHAHAHAHA THIS GUY RIGHT HERE. HOLY SHIT.

>>1765240
>>1765265

I hear a conspicuous lack of grunting
Hump more walls, guys

TEST YOUR MIGHT
http://www.doomworld.com/idgames/?random

Post screenshots of your adventures, battles and discoveries!

> be doomguy in doom 2
> level : THE SUBURBS
> see a nigger on his tree, he throws watermelons at me
> go and kill him
> THOUSANDS OF NIGGERS OUT OF FUCKING NOWHERE
> They all throw watermelons at me
> I die
/pol/ the game

Did the original Quake have a crosshair?

>>1765325
I giggled

>>1765326
YOU HAVE HUGE FILTERS. IT MEANS YOU WILL EXPLODE INTO LOOT.

Filters aren't that bad. I mean it is definately not an improvement but not bad either.

>>1765325

Fun PWad to play with Doom RPG + DoomRLA?

>>1765339
My quotation skills are only suprassed by my "not picking shit up" skills.

>>1765339
People against filters knows nothing about retro-gamming. Not

>>1765352
Please God shut the fuck up.

>>1765349
And THIS IS WHY FUCKING DEVS NEED TO GET ON ADDING SOME WAY FOR ME TO REIMPLEMENT THE MAGNETIZE SKILL JESUS CHRIST.

Also, I made a large update today to seriously improve unique/colored (not racist!) monsters, they now have a better chance of both wrecking your shit and annoying the hell out of you.

>>1765352

Fuck off.

>>1765359
>DoomRPG devlog, 07/13/2014: Made demonic niggers more annoying, more deadly

Did doomRLA alter anything at all regarding environmental suits? The duration does not reset upon picking a new one unless I was already in the last seconds ("blinking state").
Specially troublesome in Evilution Mount Pain while wearing tactical boots...

Steel beast also breaks everything when scavenged. You get a mod pack, but you are left with a ghost shotgun. 1 shell in clip, no sprite, cannot fire or change weapons. Not even picking up new weapons fixes it.
The funniest part is the beast returns fully functional if you manage to change maps, so this could easily net you 1 free exotic pack per level.

If it matters, I was using zdoom's dev build 2.8pre-518 and doomrla 7.7.

Also some other issues, all regarding bulk mods :
- info for grenade launcher says "increases clip size" instead of impact damage
- info for elephant gun says just "increases damage", which I assume is missing the word "randomization" to match chainsaw's info
- should probably add +2 pellets to any kind of double shotgun's dual fire, instead of 1. The problem is it also adds +1 pellet to the single barrel shot, making a BB double shotgun for example do 16 pellets on primary, 9 secondary shot. Primary gets really pointless with 4B + renegade.

>>1765357
>>1765363
Great argument, m8s.
Old pixelated games are were never meant to be played on 1080p LCD monitors 30cm away from your face, they are supposed to be played on low-res CTR tvs at least 2 metters away. You were never supposed to see these pixels that "false nerds" worship so much. The CRT is supposed to blend everything in a mosaic, and make things look smoother. All the filters does is try to emulate this effect. You were NEVER supposed to play old games on super HD monitors with unfiltered textures. If you didn't knew that, you are a false retro-gamer.

>>1765376
I don't care if I wasn't supposed to see the details because devs had to accommodate for shitty visual hardware, I want to see what they made.

Fuck you for making your game look like ass and then having the nerve to defend it.

>>1765385
>Fuck you for making your game look like ass and then having the nerve to defend it.

Just look who's talking. The true 90s kid born in December 1999 that has no idea of what a 5th generation console is.

>>1765376
>they are supposed to be played on low-res CTR tvs at least 2 metters away
Who gives a shit?

>>1765376
>>1765385
I geniunely do not care about people going nuts of over "options" or anyone trying to define "retro gamer".

>>1765359
hmm...

Also is there any In Extremis wad? In short you get a powerful suit, bunch of melee enemies and never get health pickups, you gotta play through with your starting health.

>>1765395
>respondign to those two posts
Do not respond to shitposters at all.

If you do so, you are part of the problem

>>1765376

I honestly am not AGAINST filters, I just HATE it. I am not going to lose it because someone else likes it. I am going to lose it when a source port doesn't allow me to fucking disable it.

>>1765393

Seems like >>1765385, >>1765363, and >1765352 gives a lot.

>>1765398
Does that make both of us circumstantial shitposters?

>>1765325
tried to make a screenshot

>>1765325
Makes me wish /pol/.wad didn't suck so much.

>Hey, I know, let's drop you in a tiny room with a shit-ton of enemies so you can circle-strafe the mob for five minutes.
>This is fun, right?

Although, credit where credit is due, the Reichstag hub room and THE HAPPENING were both pretty awesome.

>>1765421
it was apparently the author's first map

>>1765359
Also I forgot, well past level 100 if you crank up monster multipliers and aura curve, everything explodes into so much loot when you walk into the pile game freezes for a good second to collect a lot of items. Is it possible to condense pick ups into a single drop and give items via ACS? It should speed things up a lot and look tidier.

AWAKEN MY MASTERS but Doom

>>1765435
Experimented with that, ultimately doesn't do shit really. Blame GZDoom for the pickup lag, there isn't really anything I can do about it.

>>1765439
hmm... how about trimming drops a bit, like dropping a single 10-20 credit past certain level instead of a lotsa 1s. A single power-up, just one armor... etc.

>>1765316
Wad name?

>>1765438
Doomguy Bizarre Adventures when? Punchghosts with Berserker Packs would be awesome.

>>1765483

>>1765491
OROROROROROROROROROROR!

So seeing as god spheres are broken in GMOTA, I really should replace them with something else. Anyone have any suggestions or something they'd like to see?

Probably gonna replace the invisaspheres too because they suck

>>1765491
DYNADYNADYNADYNADYNADYNADYNADYNADYNADYNAMITE!

>>1765491
say your prayers lardass 'cause you're already deadaaaaAAAAATATATATATATATATATATA

>>1765180
Hi I'm some anon. You're welcome.
>>1765326
Open the console, "crosshair 1"

>>1765208

Engoo is cool, but for fucks sake why can't it play music?

>>1765539
Because it ain't in the PAK files.

http://quakeone.com/forums/quake-help/general-help/7435-enable-music-ogg-darkplaces.html

>>1765543 (me)
oh wait you said engoo

probably because it's lame

>>1765506
>>1765491
DAT ASS AND HUGE GUTS!

>>1764921

2hard

>>1765543

I know that. I've tried using _inmm.dll and using my CD, but it doesn't work.

>>1765482
Jenesis.
Gameplay mod is Accessories To Murder.

Maps are kinda slow at first but they really start to pick up the pace after a while.

>>1765224
do you get these things going on IRC because I want to join in on the action

>>1765605

Yes.
And we'd always welcome another.

>>1764986
What's this from?

Yo, I have GzDoom, is there any way I can give the monsters proper hitboxes?
I discovered on accident that turning on mouselook doesn't alter their infinite height, and I'd like to fix that.

>>1765676
Look in gameplay or compatibility options. You must have accidentally turned it off.

Okay, which one of you /vr/oomies did this WAD?

>>1765668
DTWID: The Lost Episodes

>>1765668
KEWL

>>1765687
What is it from?

>>1765692
It's a mock parody of a couple of fuckwits trying to host a con for tumblr.

I'll try to get Phobos running on Doom 2 now, shouldn't be hard now that I know what to do and what to edit/replace.

Thank you AndrewJ for doing this in such an easy way to understand

(Context: >>1763984)

>>1765687
Tee hee.

>>1765310
I've got a DM level on first try, duh.
On second try I got this "My house" themed level. Level tries to be a 3 floors high building with a back yard with shitty surprise in the exit room if you don't notice said surprise beforehand.
I'd give it 1,5 stars.

>>1764886
>Old habits die hard, need I remind you ID started by "lifting" Softdisk's computers during closed hours.
What the fuck am I lkooking at

I need suggestions of maps (or wads featuring such maps) that runs overs vehicles such as Action Doom. Some time ago, somebody posted a webm featuring a map with a crazy battle over an airplane and I can't find it.

>>1765770
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Id_Software
>"Upon making this breakthrough, Carmack and Hall stayed up late into the night making a replica of the first level of the popular 1988 NES game Super Mario Bros. 3, inserting stock graphics of Romero's Dangerous Dave character in lieu of Mario. When Romero saw the demo, entitled "Dangerous Dave in Copyright Infringement", he realized that Carmack's breakthrough could have potential, the team that would later form Id Software immediately began moonlighting, going so far as to "borrow" company computers that were not being used over the weekends and at nights while they designed their own remake of Super Mario Bros. 3."

Damn this thread has gone a long way from the first time I checked.

>>1765819
I mean the image in the post I quoted

>>1765770
Accessories to Murder with the NC HUD and I think Jenesis.

>>1765725

AND IT DOES!

Okay, so now I should probably get something to eat, in the meantime, here's the files which you should replace in your OBLIGE install, it only has Phobos and Deimos now, later in the night I might post the final ver. with Episode 3 and Thy Flesh working as themes for Doom 2

Friendly reminder that this is for 6.10, which is the newest version. Contains both .lua files which were modified to get the themes working on Doom 2, along with a one-level WAD with the Phobos settings as an example.

https://www.dropbox.com/s/icj543wvb840jc5/UDoom_themes_for_Doom2_OBLIGEv6.10.zip

Needless to say, MAKE SUM BACKUPS before replacing these files.

>>1765697
I also heard there was a moonbounce there.
Does this wad have that?

>>1765310
http://www.doomworld.com/idgames/index.php?file=themes/x-rated/i_am_old_enough_to_look_at_this/furrysex.zip
Replaces around 10 textures with 90's pixelated agitation.
atleastIdidnthavetoplayashittywad/5

>>1765903
nasty

Do NOT respond to shitposters.

>>1765907

http://archive.foolz.us/vr/search/text/do%20not%20respond/deleted/deleted/

Fucking give up already

>>1765917
>responding
ya blew it

>>1765903
>open the wad
>theres a file called HELP
w-what?

From the irc to you, it's some weird shit

Is it possible to feed relative paths to ZDL? If yes, how?

I'd like to have my collection as portable as possible.

Thanks in advance!

Did anyone see this: http://www.polygon..com/2014/7/1/5862580/doom-quakecon-2014-exclusive?

This honestly is an atrocious thing to do, I don't even know what to say about this.

>>1765903
>I totally got this random and didn't search it just to post it to get a reaction.


>>1765992
I'd say linking to Ben Kuchera's toilet is just as atrocious.

>>1765992
pastebin that shit nigga, I dont wanna give them views

>>1765992
I think it builds hype in a way. Plenty of neckbeards will obviously record it and put it up, it will be all over the internet immediately.

'DOOM 4 LEAK FROM QUAKECON 2014' builds more hype than a standard reveal. It's just a marketing angle ya dingus.

>>1766021
fuck your autism

So how different is GZDoom from vanilla Doom? Looking to play Doom for the first time.

Is it like emulation where it's a "good enough" approximation?

Like, can I say "I played Doom" without looking like an asshole?

>>1766025
GZDoom is quite different from vanilla Doom.
It's not like emulation at all, it uses the original code (although modified in some way to include features or compatibility).

>>1766025
Well you can say you played Doom. But if you want a faithful representation of doom.exe without actually using doom.exe, Chocolate Doom's the way to go.

So, whats everyone's favorite Doom 1 and 2 maps?

>>1766023

What if they successfully obtain every person's camera? And even if they do obtain footage, it'll just be some mong holding his fingers over the camera's recorder and shaking it dramatically.

>>1766025

While its different from the original Doom, its differences are universally good and it gets rid of some of the dated shit you have to deal with in the original. Use it, its better than vanilla.

>>1766045
>What if they successfully obtain every person's camera?
you really think they'd take away peoples' phones? pls

>>1766025
Some bugfixes. Allows freelook without looking distorted. True dynamic lightning and brightmaps.
Gameplay's pretty much the same, so yeah. Just don't jump/crouch or freelook and it's vanilla, pretty much.

>>1766025
I've played both. There's a big difference and it does really feel DOOM-y to me.

The non vanillas are usually for mods and are great for it. But eprsonally I think that if you really like DOOM you should have finished it in vanilla at least once.

>>1766041
your mum's vag

beat plutonia

except for the chaingunner/archie shenanigans, it was 2x more enjoyable then tnt, lots of breather levels too so It wasn't really as hard as I was expecting though there was a couple bullshit traps.

>>1766025
Get these:
Chocolate Doom
PrBoom-plus
ZDoom
GZDoom

>>1766056
doesn't*

>>1766067
Getting ZDoom when you have GZDoom is pointless, specially with a dev build.
>>1766063
Grats.

>>1766063
wow you beat a game that is so fascinating to know

>>1766041

Grand Cathedral

>>1766056

>But eprsonally I think that if you really like DOOM you should have finished it in vanilla at least once.

No, don't say that. Its the nostalgia talking. Don't introduce people to Doom by suggesting vanilla, ever.

>>1766074
>Getting ZDoom when you have GZDoom is pointless, specially with a dev build.

You can run GZDoom in software mode?

>>1766094
vid_renderer 0 = Software
vid_renderer 1 = GL

>>1766094

Surprisingly, yes.

>>1766101
So I have to do it while running it?

>>1766092
It's not that bad. Beyond perhaps some bugs, it's always fun to play. Keyboard controls are p- fun.

>>1766092
>Typical mid-'90s born hipster asshat trying to get brownie points by posting in /vr/oom threads.
You have no place on this board you fucking faggot and don't know shit about retro games. This is exactly why Doom kiddies are pretty much the bronies of /vr/.

>>1766105

Yes. Then quit and restart.

>>1766049

Pwahahaha, recording with a fucking iPod. Yeah, you're going to see blurry footage with shitty lighting.

>>1766101
It sticks once you set it. If you use a launcher or command line, you can just add +vid_renderer 1 to the command line options.

>>1766092
Agreed. The software lightning hasn't aged well in places, and sourceports fix some bugs and add more resolutions, along with dynamic lightning which is pretty.
>>1766105
Yeah. I think you can put it in a config too but dunno how.
>>1766107
>keyboard controls
Nigga what.

>>1766109
Hmm, think its quicker having both zdoom and gzdoom in my zdl launcher, then.

>>1766110
The footage won't be great, no shit, but it's guaranteed to leak like that and build hype all over the internet. Hell we're already talking about it, aren't we, you fucking asshat? So the ploy is working. Then they'll do the actual internet reveal later when they've already built up the hype and give it another huge push.

You don't understand that this is clearly a marketing angle because you're a fucking retard.

>>1766107

Don't get me wrong, its perfectly playable, its just that better options exist, and from my experience vanilla doom is generally only ever preferable if you grew up with it.

>>1766108

I'm kind of confused. Wouldn't a hipster want the most "authentic" experience to get brownie points? And how is improving Doom a bad thing? I just don't get your mindset.

>>1766124
Don't respond to the second person in your post. The last sentence in that post should tell you what his goal is for that post.

Also no one over age 12 uses the word hipster anymore so stop doing that too.

>>1766092
>Don't introduce people to Doom by suggesting vanilla, ever.

You do realise its attitudes like this that are the reason why purists hate zdoom and its users

>>1766076

Sorry anon, I'm lonely.

>>1766121

>coming to the conclusion that we're hyped because we're talking about it

I am talking about it because I am fucking pissed about this. I'm honestly not hyped, I just wanted to see some footage just to see how shit it was.

I never said it wasn't, I understand it completely that it is a marketing angle, I don't GIVE A FUCK about the fact that it is.

>>1766127
But you are the bronies of /vr/. This is easily the most cancerous community on the board by far.

>>1766124
Unless you consider playing it for a couple weeks at age 2, I don't think I even actually played DOOM until I was like 16, four years ago. I had all the mods there but I decided vanilla was the real thing.

Also Action DOOM, that shit was based.

>>1766128

Yup. Can't say I care, though.

Never mind I just realized who that person was. You know what to do, anons.

>>1766137
You should just stick to Call of Duty like you were doing before this board was made m8.

>>1766136

Yeah, I never played DOOM until I was much older.

Oh and I'd introduce them to both vanilla DOOM and the source ports, they can choose what they want.

>>1766141

I take it you're a purist then.

>>1766148
Nope. I enjoy GZDoom. I can tell a tryhard kiddie when I see one though.

>>1766150

If you're not a purist, why do you give a fuck about purists? They're generally irritating people.

>>1766156
I just don't like try-hard shits shitting up /vr/ with terrible opinions.

He's trying to get a reaction. (And is possibly samefagging). That he compared this thread to a certain fandom is proof enough.

>>1766156

Why the FUCK are you STILL responding to him?

>>1766159

Well regardless, people who use the phrase "try-hard" are generally not worth arguing with.

>>1766116
>The software lightning hasn't aged well in places
Eh, when it comes to vanilla/boom maps, I consider Software mode lighting better than most lighting methods in GL mode. Shaders (or Software in GZDoom) are the only GL lighting modes I like, since it actually replicates the vanilla light diminishing effects that other GL lighting modes lack.

>>1766160

Wasn't thinking, sorry.

So, how 'bout that Doom?

>>1766128
>>1766137
Agreed.
No newcomer's gonna fire up DOSbox to play vanilla, or mess with ChocoDoom config files, they probably won't like the lightning, lack of small enhancement mods, etc.

Mods gotta love having to delete fifty shitposts per thread, with half of them being people whinning about the shitpost enablers.

Alright guys, changed a few more things

What do you think?

>>1766170

Hey, "no newcomer"? You speak for EVERY newcomer?

>>1766178
Ooh, I'm really liking that.

>>1766170
Its not up to you to decide what the newcomer plays and doesnt play

I got my start with the BFG edition, played through 3, then moved on to 1-2. Now I'm using source ports and playing with mods and stuff and oh they just grow up so fast :')

>>1766178

Looks good, colouring on the helmet is a bit odd.

>>1766178

looking good!

>>1766179

I'm the rest of the newcomers and can confirm what he said.

>>1766178
Loving it so far. Does the belly hole appear on his back too? I think I saw that in an earlier model

>>1766108
Indeed. Pic related is a remedy - though it unfortunately doesn't stop these clueless fucks from occasionally polluting other FPS threads on /vr/.

>>1766178

Looking better.

Has GMOTA guy ever talked about including a list of sources for the music randomizer?

There's some songs in there that are cool but I'm not sure where they're from.

>>1766179
You know what I mean. They are more likely to play and stick around if the game is easy to setup.
>>1766183
Nowhere did I say that. But I will recommend GZDoom or at least PrBoom+ to new people, if they ask.

What is it with the anti-vanilla attitude that zdoomers have?

I mean, yeah, there are some purists who are douches. But don't take it out on the original engine.

>>1766192

There are other FPS threads on /vr/? I wish. Doom's okay and all, but its no DN3D.

>>1766204
It's literally a single two people trying to stir shit up.

>>1766204
>What is it with the anti-vanilla attitude that zdoomers have?
>second bit in the news post is a map collab with vanilla settings

step up your b8 m8

>>1766206
I think one of them might be on the irc channel

>>1766204

>What is it with the anti-vanilla attitude that zdoomers have?

Its not an anti-vanilla attitude, its a simple recognition that there are better options available for introducing people to Doom. Doom vanilla is an acquired taste that you generally have to have grown up with to enjoy. If you like vanilla, whatever, but recognize its many shortcomings.

>>1766209
I wasnt accusing the whole doom thread as being anti-vanilla. Just responding to a recent argument.

>>1766191
No, I made it more accurate to the sprite

>>1766204
Vanilla is dated. Resolution's too low, lightning is kind of bad, there are bugs, etc. Acknowledging that isn't campaigning against those who use it or anything.
>>1766168
Some vanilla textures look pretty bad when in software mode + high resolution settings.
Like the red rocky walls, or FIREBLU (not that anyone should use FIREBLU ever).

>>1766217
Awesome. Really digging it, he looks liek he's straight from Quake

>original thread on /v/ about Doomguy's christmas special is long gone
>chanarchive is no more and the fuckheads from ED automatically redirect to their shitty site
>however...

http://comics.farazparsa.com/?comic=doomguy-xmas-part-one

What a relief

>>1766218

Go away...

>>1766219
>he looks liek he's straight from Quake
I think that's because he is based on the enemies from Quake.

>>1766221
Don't respond to the known shitposter.

>>1766220
I knew Chanarchive was gone as soon as they started begging for bitcoins on their facebook page.

>>1766221

Why does this bother you so much? He didn't say anything even vaguely inflammatory. Vanilla is dated in many ways. There are generally better options for new players. Nothing said there is controversial.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mike_Dopud

So according to Wikipedia this dude offered his voice for the Sound Ideas 6000 thing, which as we all know ended up being used as resource for most of the Doom sounds

Are there any soundclips from him that may be worth of being "Doom-ified"?

>>1766198

I probably should. it's been so fucking long that I've forgotten most of the tracks I've added.

I need to trim a few tracks from the current playlist as they're too quiet and Vince or myself have no idea how to adjust the volume of individual tracks

>>1766218
I dont see how the textures are any different between software and GL mode.

Unless you're using that filter that blurs them (IMO, that makes them look worse)

>>1766229
>shitposter
What? How am I shitposting? Is this bait?
>>1766242
No, I actually hate filters.
I mean the lightning. Vanilla doesn't have true dynamic lightning, which coupled with high resolution makes certain things look pretty bad. Taking one of my examples, the red rock walls looks all pixelated with brown.
>>1766221
I don't even know how to respond to this.

>>1766241

How important do you think the music randomizer is to the ~*~GMOTA EXPERIENCE~*~?
I recorded a 40-minute-long gameplay video with it, since I saw there wasn't a lot of vids on YooToob, but I replaced most of the music with my own choice stuff.

>>1766261
>What? How am I shitposting? Is this bait?

:^) don't shitpost

>>1766261

When in doubt, blame purists for being faggots. Its probably not the problem, but it makes you feel better.

>>1766268

Not vital. I just wanted some rockin old vidya tunes to go with the characters.

40 minutes? Goddamn anon, did you have fun?

>>1766275

Yes.
I died on map15, though, so people won't be able to see a full playthrough.

>Let's see how /dg/ is doing! Maybe GMOTA guy has some stuff to show us using Marty Kirra's cool voice acting!
>Arguments about vanilla Doom

>>1766241
You got music from
Knights of the Round(Stage 1 and 2, might be more)
Soul Blazer
Castlevania 4(Like a lot of them)
Terranigma
Super Ghouls & Ghosts(Ice level, Sunken Ship, Fire level)
Ys 3(Chester theme, Valestine, Ruins of Illburn, Sealed Time, Mines)
Magic Sword (Stage 1)
Dracula X(Cemetary)
FF Mystic Quest (Boss theme and Battle theme, Doom Castle theme, Fossil Labyrinth theme, Lava Dome)
Lagoon

There might be others, there's a handful of songs I do not recognize.

>>1766276

still. I look forward to watching this. I feel feedback and watching folks play GMOTA will help me out in making this shit better.

>>1766284

I... forgot to save his voiceclips. but I now want Marty to do Blaz's voice. I feel like a fucking dumbass for turning his offer down a few months ago. Course that was when GMOTA was so much smaller.

What are the big things you want for the new Doom?

>>1766290
Didn't he do some more clips for ya recently? You asked for hammy voice acting and he answered with some excellent lines.

>>1766301
Speed. Project MSX level speed.

>>1766301
a release

>>1766301

Can it run with brutal doom?

>>1766301
Not big things, huge things. Like guts.

>>1766301
Speed, strafing to dodge, not many hitscanners, weapons that feel good to use, enemies responsive to damage.
I want prettier Doom basically.
>>1766303
>Project MSX level speed.
Not gonna happen.

>>1766303

That was like three or four days ago and I was too dumb to save them. Though in my defense I've been more concerned with saving money for a not potato PC and trying to balance the mess I currently have in GMOTA.

>>1766301
I want it to stop calling itself Doom since it won't be anything like Doom.

>>1766309
It's fine, dude. I would be saving up for a PC as well, but I'm working at college stuff and also Warhammer 40k recently gave Orks their update... so models and books for days.

>>1766301
Everything Doom does but taken to further extremes, basically.

>>1766309
Why not just search for vocaroo in the archive?

>>1766317
You shut up, a man can dream
OF HUGE GUTS

>>1766317
I dunno, the new Wolfenstein game was pretty good.

>>1766261
>Vanilla doesn't have true dynamic lightning

If you're referring to the ugly lighting that surrounds tourches and what not in OpenGL mode, then I don't see the problem.

>>1766307

>not many hitscanners

So not Doom then.

>>1766334

It's not even being made by the same company...

>>1766346

Neither was Human Revolutions. There is always hope.

>>1766301
A new Doom that isn't published by the fucking Harmony Gold of gaming.

>>1766301
Brutal Doom 3D

>>1766334
It was hit or miss most of the time but I appreciate it's effort anyways.
Also it had the guys behind the Darkness behind it.

I have no reason to believe Doom will be even kind of okay.

>>1766364

No real reason not to. There's really no reason to think anything about the current Doom.

So I'm thinking of getting into Doom modding- how much of a bitch is it to make new enemies? New AI patterns (IE: do more than just wait for player and then run toward them while firing if ranged)?

I'd really love to just expand on what's already there in Doom 2, as a sort of spiritual sequel. I imagine that's a huge undertaking, but, y'know.

>>1766368

There's no real reason to think it even exists, all they've showed so far is a CGI trailer.

>>1766341
True. What I mean is that I hope that the majority of the enemies attacks are projectile based, and that the hitscanners remain kinda like in the first games. I hope they don't go the Doom 3 route, the aim punch was terrible.
>>1766335
Not referring to that specifically.
Play, dunno, one of Scythe's later maps on opengl and software with high res. Opengl looks better imo.
Also the brightmaps are kinda nice.

>>1766301
Ditch the whole 3D engine and all that bullcrap.

I want Doom 4 to be what Doom 3 should've been.

It would use the original Doom Engine and it would have everything that Doom 2 has, plus new weapons, new monsters and new maps.. Basically like what Doom 2 was to Doom 1.

>>1766368
Well we have something to gauge Doom 4 on right now

http://www.tomshardware.com/news/id-software-doom-pc-gaming-carmack,26798.html

http://www.vg247.com/2014/07/07/doom-4-news-id-software-dont-assume-its-awesome/

Not to mention they scrapped the previous version of Doom 4 because it was a shit CoD clone

>>1766375
>they scrapped it because it was a CoD clone
That's what gives me hope man. Someone looked at it and said "It ain't Doom" so now they're redoing it.

>>1766301
Keys or objectives that make the levels not feel like you're going a one-way corridor and feel more explorable. Secrets and entirely optional areas would be nice too.

An Inventory system, maybe.

>>1766341
There's only 4 hitscan monsters in DOOM, the rest are projectile based, so how could it be less of DOOM when there's already so few hitscanners in the first place?

>>1766376
Yeah, but they could be saying "It ain't Doom, so let's make it like Halo- that still sells, right?" or something.

>>1766373
But theres no dynamic lighting on Scythe. No vanilla map does. Maybe you're not thinking of dynamic lighting, but something else.

>>1766381
He's probably talking how a lot of the early maps are filled with them.

>>1766375

I'm not really going to come to an actual conclusion until I've seen it, certainly won't think this is going to be good because they said they've redone it and told fans not to assume it's awesome.

>>1766382
Well seeing that CoD and Halo are arguably the same thing it makes you wonder.

>>1766371

Decorate is easy to learn, but expanding on enemy behavior and making them do whole new things might get pretty difficult.
Start simple. Grab Slade 3, check out a (simple) decorate mod, see how it works.

>>1766385
I just assume the worst.

Especially since the PR says "Assume the worst" in a roundabout way.

>>1766387

Hey, the first Halo wasn't that bad. Certainly didn't get a CoD vibe off of it.

>>1766371
It's not terrible once you know how everything works. One of the best ways to learn in my opinion is to just look into other people's mods with Slade3 and see how they work, follow their examples. ZDoom wiki is also helpful, it lets you look at the original monster's code among other things.

>>1766387

No, that isn't arguable. That's just plain wrong.

>>1766301
Well, if the id guy who posted on reddit the other day was legit, then disappointment and broken dreams.

>>1766375
Speaking of the scrapped version, doe sanyone knows how it was? I can't find much information about it without resorting to visiting Kotaku and similar sites.

>>1766381

So half of the monsters are hitscan then. I'd say that's a lot.

I want that dashcon wad

>>1766290
you know the full version of this comic is basically Doomguy's life

>>1766375
Speaking of the scrapped version, does anyone knows how it was? I can't find any information about it without resorting to visiting Kotaku and similar sites.

>>1766384

Also later maps. Most of the maps were filled with them. It Doom's biggest problem. That and lava pits.

>>1766383
Talking bout software vs opengl lightning. Try it, it's pretty different.
>>1766410
I think of them as ammo that moves.

>>1766406
A lot of the later levels in doom relied more on imps, demons, souls, and cacos, with occasional barons.

>>1766415

Episode 4 had a ton of the fuckers. Hell, E4M1 was 90% shotgunners.

>>1766409
Testers and shit jokingly referred to it as "Call of Doom". That's what I heard, at least.

Why the fuck is damage randomized? I can't think of a single good reason.

>>1766421

Because the devs were DnD nerds.

>>1766424

I had a feeling. I just don't know how it got all the way to release without someone saying "this is a fucking stupid idea". Then again, there's quite a few things in Doom like that.

>>1766409

Apparent screenshots were leaked in 2012, but someone from id dismissed them saying "this is not what we're going to see in the upcoming DOOM game."

>>1766413
From what I've looked. Only Shaders (GlBoom) and Software (GZDoom) lighting mode in GL looks better than software.

Everything else makes the lighting look even worse and lifeless.

>>1766429
>tfw it'll probably be shit but i'll play it anyway because i'm a big sucker.

>>1766429
>waist high obstacles
it was going to be cover based, fuck

>>1766431
I may post pics tomorrow comparing them, but whatever. It's your opinion man and I respect it.
>shaders
I think that's what I meant, but I'm bad at technolingo.

>>1766437
Remember when cover wasn't button based, you could just... you know, hide behind shit and book it? what happened?

>>1766449
Consoles, I guess.

>>1766407
Same here, is it real?

>>1766457
WHY DO CONSOLES RUIN EVERYTHING!?!

>>1766461

Because that's what people want, dumbed down games.

>>1766463
Why would anyone want a Dumber game? Who goes and say's "I want this game to be less intelligent and less fun"?

>>1766467

Because most people in the world are stupid and get afraid or mad when something is too hard for them, they find things simple enough for their level fun.

>>1766467

Blame the new generation of "gamers" The ones raised on iphone and tablet games, and then prefer cinematic experiences. Those people play games after long days at work and just want to not put any sort of real effort into anything, just mentally switch off for awhile before they go to bed and start their next day of work.

>>1766467
Because when business men start seeing that sales are going up in a department, they're gonna shift their attention to that field. They say, well shit we need more money so they make a game that appeals to a wider people, most of whom are dumb. The controls are too hard for them to get all at once so they tell the devs to dumb it down.

>>1766467

Probably someone who didn't grow up on games (i.e. DarkSydePhil) and/or is in denial about what they actually want in games (i.e. Egoraptor)

>>1766471
then they should just play their own dumb games, not force our games to be dumber for them

>>1766479

that's the special snowflake mentality that's constantly being encouraged in this day in age: Everything must be safe and appeal to everyone ever otherwise it's offensive and must be shunned

>>1766476
I don't know about Ego Raptor, what is he in Denial about?

>>1766481
but that's the Opposite of Special.... that makes everyone the same and mediocre....

>>1766437
kek.

>Hey guys let's cover from fireball throwing monstrosities and whatever the fuck is that green goo the pink monstrosities launch at us

>>1766485

They don't realize that anon because they're too fucking stupid and have been encouraged to voice their stupid fucking opinions constantly, making them a very loud vocal majority.

>>1766481
>>1766485
>>1766489

Please take it to /v/.

>>1766467
Because people like doing that which they're good at. They're not interested in the satisfaction of learning and then getting good, they want instant gratification.

Pretty much how capitalism works, if it delivers good results it gets sold more. Clearly most people like games such as CoD, so more and more games become like that.

>>1766482

Without going into too many details to risk a derail, what he says and how he acts are very often two entirely different things.

>>1766479
they don't understand that they are dumb, so they THINK they want new things

>my shitty internet connection goes out while im gone
>when it reconnects it keeps trying to connect to the #vr IRC but keeps failing
>I get banned
well shit

>>1766474
This right here, instead of watching a movie they resort to something that isn't and go for a cinematic experience?

Want a cinematic experience? Watch a movie
Want to play a game? Buy a video game, any of them really because it's clear that you don't know what you want in video games if you're wanting a cinematic experience in one.

>>1766510
* Dan_Drivers has quit (Z-Lined: Your IP range has been attempting to connect too many times in too short a duration. Wait a while, and you will be able to connect.)

You're not banned.

>>1766359

Fuck off faglord

http://doomwiki.org/wiki/Odessa_series

I knew about Bob's old maps but HOLY SHIT, all the Odessa series is finally out in the public? Why was this not a HUGE fucking deal?

If you're not aware, he was one of the mappers for Eternal Doom, HUGE puzzly kick-ass mid-90s maps that pushed the vanilla exe to what it could be

I can't wait to play all these

Anything similar to /pol/.wad?
in other words, shitty memes and in-jokes i can chuckle at during an actually fun wad

>>1766532
I think he was beinf sarcastic we all know Sperglord Edition is best

>>1766554
well what board would you like?

>>1766559
Anything, really. I just want some stupid shit to run through for fun.

>>1766568
There's the Call of Dooty trilogy

>>1766575
that's not fun at all

>>1766568
HDoom is basically /d/oom

>>1766467
>Why would anyone want a Dumber game? Who goes and say's "I want this game to be less intelligent and less fun"?
It's not always that, some games are better for certain moods or situations than others.

I like my Doom levels to ideally be beatable in less than 5 minutes, from pistol start, the first time I ever play them. I like to shoot at shit and find some keys and get to the exit after a big fight. And that's about it. I don't like huge "epic" maps or large mazes or key/switch hunting. If a map starts to have more than 2-4 switches in it where the effects aren't immediately obvious, I bail.

Because to me, getting lost and having to think about shit while I'm fighting demons isn't very fun. If I want to explore, if I want to key hunt and think, I'll go play Monkey Island or Myst. I play Doom for that perfect middle ground between "shoot lots of shit," "don't think too much" and "it's not too easy to die." Because if I want to play a fast-paced twitchy game where I'll die fast, I'll play Contra.

>>1766554
>shitty memes and in-jokes i can chuckle at during an actually fun wad
>>1766568
>I just want some stupid shit to run through for fun.

Mock 2
Community is Falling

>>1766568
>>1766554

It Only Gets Worse is very similar without actually being about a board.

>>1766590
>I like my Doom levels to ideally be beatable in less than 5 minutes, from pistol start, the first time I ever play them.
wow

>>1766590
tell me a few maps/wads that you do like

i always think if i can pistol start a map and beat it first time unseen then it's too easy

also what skill level do you play on?

the breadth of this community never fails to amaze me. on the one hand we have guy who quits a level if he can't beat it in under 5 minutes unseen. on the other we have obsessives who will play the same map over and over again to exit with 100% kills in the fastest time possible

>>1766629

We have dudes who hate "overmodded" gameplay mods and will never play anything beyond Perkristian's animations/sounds, and we have people who can't stand the default play and use Doom instead as a development platform to see what exotic/esoteric stuff they can do.

>>1766624
>then it's too easy
although not frustrating for repeat runs, thus a good candidate for speedrunning purposes ;)

>>1766665
doomkart when

are there any mods that have you play as an Angel with an arsenal of Heavenly weapons?

>>1766665

This was promising before Edward shoved his dick in the topic and became king ass-shitter.

>>1764921
i savescummed my way to the yellow key. there's probably just enough ammo to kill all the hellknights and barons except the two on the ledge, but then i had to chainsaw a roomful of lost souls and pain elementals. then i punched the two barons, and the group of demons that are all stuck together.

i can't see any reasonable way past the two archviles on the far side of the yellow door. if one attacks before i can grab the ssg and retreat, i die. if neither of them do attack, i can get to some cover with the ssg, but i don't have enough ammo to fight them or the inevitable cloud of resurrected barons and demons.

is this map even meant to be beatable? can you (the author) beat it? or is it a troll wad?

What's the best way to play Shadow Warrior?

>>1766681
>>1766665
>Best guess for this image: fsu new spear
Link, please?

>>1766693
Steam. I got it for free, and I think it still is.

>>1766696
wait, never mind.

>>1766696

http://forum.zdoom.org/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=46231

You might want to start skipping posts the moment Edward850 shows up.

Do you think we'll ever get the source code for Doom 64?

>>1766554
>/pol/.wad
source?

>>1766709
http://lmgtfy.com/?q=pol.wad

>>1766703
I do not see why we would.
It's pretty much gone now and source code doesn't exactly get handed out for console games.

>>1765497
are you GMOTA guy?

>invisibility sphere
a strong "ethereal" weapon, you cannot switch weapons when you grab it have to wait it out
>god sphere
a strong ethereal shield may be?

>>1766740

Yes that was my post, I posted from my phone earlier.

temporary weapon powerups could be interesting, I'll keep that in mind.

>>1766745
>Removing Invincibility
Put that shit back in.
Doesn't even need to have anything, Invincibility spheres are mandatory.

>>1766719
What's this image from by the way?

>>1766752
It's some kind of moray eel. Dunno if it's shopped, taken at a weird angle or if it really does look like that. Filename is a reference to dark souls

>>1766750

Sorry pal. I wound up breaking god spheres due to how the shield works, and I have yet to manage to make the shield block reliably without resorting to invulnerability on demand, making it spawn a wall of invisible projectiles that stop other projectiles doesn't work as there's still a chance that you can run headlong into an imp's fireball and get a facefull of it

>>1766757
Invincibility really does need to provide some form of "I CANNOT BE HARMED", or maps that rely on you being invincible to make a fight not a total slaughter tend to fall apart pretty horribly.

Maybe replace them with time freezes?

>>1766757
>and I have yet to manage to make the shield block reliably without resorting to invulnerability on demand

Change it to a PowerProtection that gives DamageFactor "Normal", 0.0000001

It's effectively the same as Invulnerability, but without actually changing the invulnerability property.

>>1766760

well that other guy was mentioned some sort of temporary powerup that forces you to use a different weapon altogether, I could probably do that: Temporary invuln with a neato weapon

>>1766761

would that fuck with the other powerprotection Blaz will be getting in the future? Furthermore wouldn't he still grunt in pain?

>>1766590
>I like my Doom levels to ideally be beatable in less than 5 minutes, from pistol start, the first time I ever play them

I'm guessing Scythe is your favorite wad?

>>1766757
Have the shield reduce damage by 99% when active.

Invulnerability is mandatory. Can't be negotiated.
Many mapsets and even traps do not work out if the player isn't able to go invulnerable.

>>1766703
What would be the point? Games already been reverse engineered.

>>1765126

MY FUCKING SIDES

captcha; intersecting

why are there no Good HD sprites?

>>1766568
UAC Military Nightmare.

Sounds innocent and unremarkable, yes, but you won't be prepared.

I don't care what you guys think, playing that wad with you guys ranks in my top five multiplayer experiences in recent years on entertainment standards. Constant and painful laughter

>>1766689

Hmm, I did manage to get to the next stage after that then got my own ass kicked. I'll have to re-balance it a little and upload it again.

>>1766813

>a little

Scratch that, I'll re-do a shit ton of enemy placement & item placement.

>>1766709
>source?
/vr/, check in the pastebin in the OP

So a little more mulling over. I might have something to address both the slightly clunky arm cannon mechanics and the flail shot:

remove the flail and save it for another project, add a firing mode swapper for the arm cannon, hitting zoom would switch between firing solid bolts/slugs at a rapid fire rate, and the other mode would be the red fire pellets with a charge function, which would consume the red mana bar.

>>1766590
>I like my Doom levels to ideally be beatable in less than 5 minutes, from pistol start, the first time I ever play them.
.If a map starts to have more than 2-4 switches in it where the effects aren't immediately obvious, I bail.
wow.wad

>>1766867
durr im a faggot
>If a map starts to have more than 2-4 switches in it where the effects aren't immediately obvious, I bail.

>>1765750

Feels.wad

>>1766703
I don't think anyone really wants to give it out/anyone really wants to get it
Like Doom 64 is 420% atmosphere and random guys making levels would never quite get it right.
Doom 2 just has a much wider range of "moods", action-packed, narrative, spooky, all sorts of stuff.

>>1766178

Thats an awesome piece of work. Made out of pure doom love.

If you ask me, I may only complain about the hemlet's shape.

I don't know how I might make this, but the doomguy hemlet seems to have like a bump where the mouth is, like for a air filter or something. I always understood it like a more pointy item, and the model's seems a bit squary. (Not the voxely aspect, but as a whole)

That's all I have to say. When I finish my finals I may try to edit it to explain my idea better.

>>1766703
It's just an updated version of the original Doom code, not at all different from what we have now. Otherwise that guy who made the Doom 64 port wouldn't have been able to reverse engineer it

Why nobody play Odamex?

>>1766898
Should I make the mouth piece jut out a little like this?

>>1766945
>Why nobody play Odamex?
nobody plays odamex because nobody else plays odamex. it's a network effect, or a self-fulfilling prophecy.

About 5 years ago, a bunch of chums from /v/ and I played Skulltag and had a jolly good old time. Specifically, we were playing some challenging WADs with a "one life, you die, you wait til everyone else dies/the level is won".

I've since lost all those WADs and if I understand correctly, Skulltag is long since dead.
What's the best way to replicate that one-life co-op campaign experience?

>>1767017
Quite literally Zandronum.

Skulltag lives on through it.

>>1767017
Zandronum, Skulltag's successor, features the same built-in Survival gamemode that limits the number of lives each player gets. It's not specific to any single WAD.

>>1767019
>>1767020
Sweet, thanks guys.
>It's not specific to any single WAD.
Yeah I know, it was just a setting in the Skulltag, but what I was getting at there was challenging WADs, maybe designed for multiple dudes. Any recommenations?

>>1767023
Hell Revealed 1 and 2 were made specifically for co-op, I think. Other popular choices include the Scythe series and Alien Vendetta.

>>1767027
Ah, they all sound semi-familiar.
Thanks a lot, Anon!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gAAzvp0-qLk

>Brutal Doom

shit you HATE in mapsets, go
>early maps are incredibly fun and balanced, with good placement and monster counts that are challenging without being ridiculous
>becomes slaughterwad tripe ~10 maps in
looking at you, eviltech

Alright guys, here's another updated model. Figured out how to fix the palette errors so there are no more garbage pixels and the skin is no longer splotches of yellow and pink. Also thinned out the boots to make it look slightly less boxy

Alright guys, here's another updated model. Figured out how to fix the palette errors so there are no more garbage pixels and the skin is no longer splotches of yellow and pink. Also thinned out the boots to make it look slightly less boxy, walking animation only again

http://www.mediafire.com/download/r2x34ddq3a3fpdo/Voxeldoom.wad

>>1766963

Yes! It looks more doomish. Also, now that I see that angle I can tell something more:


-If you see the sprite of doomguy on angles 3 and 7, there seems to be like a "pixel step" in the middle of the visor, that may help you refine the profile of the helmet.
The visor is 5 pixels high, (against the 4 voxel height of your model, with two acute features pointing down, at the two sides of the mouthpiece, represented with like, 2 more pixels downwards. These are specially noticeable on angles 1 and 7.

To include these features, I would enlarge the visor upwards.


-Also, looking at >>1766178, you can see the difference of the helmet shape from angle 1:
Looking more like a rugby ball, against the squared shape of the voxel.
I'm not quite sure how I would approach this.
I understand the difficulty and tediousness of voxel work. I assume that you save state your work before making modifications, but if not, I remind you. After all, I might be wrong with my requests/advices/opinions

BIG THANK YOU. I look forward to playing with your work

Sorry if bad english, I'm trying hard

>>1767069
>MAP07 is a Dead Simple clone

>>1767096

Forgot explanatory pic

>>1767096
>I understand the difficulty and tediousness of voxel work. I assume that you save state your work before making modifications, but if not, I remind you. After all, I might be wrong with my requests/advices/opinions
I'm not actually hand making these voxels, it's a skin and model edit of the ranger from quake which is then fed into a voxel converting program and touched up in Slab6 so it's actually easy to implement changed, and your advice is extremely helpful to me, thank you

I know that doom is 2.5d, is GZDoom technically 3d though?

>>1767069
what are you considering as a slaugherwad? how bad does eviltech get?

>>1767105
That looks like a theme for a clock.

>2014
>Zdoom TC of Blood isn't accurate and includes tons of changes they made for the fun of it

Explain yourselves.

>>1767128
Map11 has 70 monsters on UV. Map12 has 560.

>>1767134
Wait there's a TC of Blood? You got a link to that?

>>1767134

Because fuck Blood.

>>1767123

>voxel converting program.

Awwww man, which one? I'm planning on voxelizing the cyberdemon, but had such a hard time trying it and I was neglecting my finals

I may use it to make a start point from this model I have. Pic related.
It might work, although I'm not sure yet if it is the best way to approach this.

>>1767105
>>1767096
Touched up the helmet shape a bit, what do you guys think?

>>1767129

10/10 would install in my bedroom

>>1767156

Great! but, did you touch only the right half?

You are getting it. Although the bump on the side of the helmet looks a little lower than on the sprite, not sure if it's a matter of the angle.

Can you deliver more angle pics?

>>1767156
now I see much less quake in it.
Could you post how it looks from the back?

>>1767152
poly2vox is the converting program I use. that model should convert into voxels quite nicely but I must warn you that it won't look very good in doom because enemies only move in eight directions, their movement isn't smoothed out like it is when you use models in GZDoom. Also you must scale it down to a factor of 10 percent or less when converting because too many can utterly kill the performance.

>>1767185
>>1767171
I only touched up the sides, I still have to shape the front and back of the helmet. I don't think it's possible to get it looking exactly like the sprites, though. I'm aiming more to look more like the helmet seen on the title screen of doom

>>1765147
game was sponsored by Taco Bell

>>1765180
winquake still works just fine, for me at least. no widescreen, though

>>1766568
Mock 2
Community is Falling 3
Megatrickster's Mistake (Needs skulltag actors I believe)
deathz0r Online: The Internet Made Stupid
The Archives Are Doomed Gold
The New Adventure

>>1767142
http://www.doomwadstation.net/main/blood/zBLUDV33.zip

>>1767069
>eviltech
>slaughterfest

What? Its later maps were just huge. Never got a HR/AV vibe out of it.

>>1767042
I hate that just about everything I see in the steamcommunity hub for the Doom's is Brutal Doom

>>1767134
It would NOT be possible to make a 100% accurate replica of Blood in the Doom engine; so they might as well deal with it and do changes they feel good.

Even the EDuke32 BloodTC is miles away from being accurate, and that's using the same base engine.

Now if you want to play Blood, why the fuck would you want to play a replica of the original game (which by definition WILL be off by a thousand miles) rather than play the game itself, is beyond me. Too lazy/computer-illiterate to configure dosbox yourself? Well, GOG did that for you and only for 5 bucks, including the fantastic add-on, and the game plays perfectly at good resolution unless you have a toaster.