/vr/ - Retro Games

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NEWS
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-Listen2Doom, 24/7 http://liquiddoom.net/doom/radio

-Some anons did a 200 min. speedmap WAD and THIS is the result! ftp://ftp.fu-berlin.de/pub/pc/games/idgames/levels/doom2/megawads/200minvr.zip Tell us what you think! (/idgames frontend link very soon)

-Don't forget to (re)watch this year's Summer Games Done Quick, as it featured Doom 64 and an Ultimate Doom race! Ask in the thread for links! The past AGDQ featured Plutonia and a Doom 2 race; to rewatch said games, see this link http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLQcxg3SUqlYBoSYrpNJVu58GsoCXMREa1..

-Wanna see John Romero deathmatching in 2014? Do you live in England? He will be present at Revival '14 on August 9, see more details here http://www.doomworld.com/vb/post/1283115; for reference, this happened at GDC http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLXkipPv0b4KMKE7z3WwlYYUCDLACNoYfE..

-Metroid Dreadnought IS OUT! - http://zandronum.com/forum/showthread.php?tid=4561&pid=61847#pid61847

-Also The Space Pirate got an update! Check the latest ver. here! https://drive.google.com/file/d/0BxbbtKR5bll_anFPaVhUQVZqcnM/edit?usp=sharing And be sure to check this tutorial http://youtu.be/mrFF8LCZw5Y

-HDoom has its 5th techdemo! happy now? http://www.best-ever.org/download?file=m12-hdoom-techdemo5.pk3

Mods that also got updated (these links include their respective download links for each mod, by the way)

Doom RPG (not the mobile game) - http://forum.zdoom.org/viewtopic.php?f=19&t=33292
Hideous Destructor - http://forum.zdoom.org/viewtopic.php?t=12973
Pirate Doom - http://forum.zdoom.org/viewtopic.php?t=32674
DoomRL Arsenal - http://forum.zdoom.org/viewtopic.php?t=37044
Doom The Golden Souls - http://forum.zdoom.org/viewtopic.php?p=661646
GMOTA - http://forum.zdoom.org/viewtopic.php?p=742401

ATTENTION! If you know about something news-worthy PLEASE reply to this so everyone can see it

Are there any good conversion wads that have both good level design and weapons?

>>1753930

You want a total TC with levels AND weapons? Good luck, mate.

>>1753930
>>1753937

>>1753914
>Pirate Doom - http://forum.zdoom.org/viewtopic.php?t=32674

>>1753942

seconding pirate doom.

>>1753918
>All brown enemies
>Imps and Pain elementals everywhere

http://en.inkei.net/vagina/a/DoomGuy!Samus_Aran!20140709

pls

>>1753971

Can anyone settle a dispute I've been having? I swear that at least one of the box-art images for DOOM 1 had Doomguy holding a shotgun in his left hand (the one the imp is grabbing). Yet I can find no evidence that this is the case because it either doesn't exist or I suck at googling.

Can anyone at all post this picture if it's actually real? Am I just dreaming?

>>1753995
It's the titlepic, not the boxart.

hi i drew those floating caco ladies in the last thread, here are wips of what im working on right now. what monsters would u guys like to see after this

>>1754000
I want mutants from Wolfenstein

>>1753971

>Affinity of DoomGuy and Samus Aran
>Ecstasy of DoomGuy : 2 times
>Ecstasy of Samus Aran : 9 times
>9 TIMES

http://vocaroo.com/i/s01nuCQMMp5c

>captcha: historical pbeaude

>>1754000
I'd like to see you draw some proper grammar, thank you very much. This isn't a text message hosting site, it's an imageboard.

Also a nukage barrel girl.

>>1754003
THAT'S NOT DOOM

>>1754000
All of them
Cyberdemon

You draw a good busty girl, i love their proportions

>>1753998
>>1753995
Title art, pic related

>>1753975
>cybersamus

I am actually slowly working on this... Just suddenly felt overwhelmed with projects. I'm stupid.

>>1754000

>That guy drawing the thick demon ladies is here now
>he joins forces with the H-doom team
>thick caco and pain elementals

Please, please stop. My dick is at risk of igniting.

Don't stop

>>1754000
Cyberdemon would be nice

>>1754000
Well there goes our blue board status.

>>1753971

Fucking hell, she makes him go twice?
And she goes nine times and keeps trucking?
The woman's a fucking tank.

>>1754019
he needs to replace the hdoom art. i like the animations but anime heads on monster bodies is just dumb

let's get some real monster porno going

also: monster infighting that results in orgies

>>1754000

Trips don't lie, this man is a good man.

>>1754000
Agitating skeleton girl is the only answer.

>>1754029
>i like the animations but anime heads on monster bodies is just dumb

...as opposed to monster heads on anime bodies?
Let's not turn this into a "my fetish is the way to go!!!" fight.

>>1754013
>>1753998

Ok, but I do recall it literally being actual boxart, exactly the same but for the shotgun.

>>1753971
>http://en.inkei.net/vagina/a/DoomGuy!Samus_Aran!20140709

what the fuck am i watching here

>>1754034
Nope
it's just titlescreen

>>1754038
Metroid Dreadnought Deathmatch

>>1754038

What would happen if inevitably Samus and Doomguy started fuckin'.

>>1754050
>>1754050
But muh waifu is pure and would never dream to touch a man

purityfags are disgusting

>>1754056

Sorry nerd DoomguyxSamus brOTP eventually upgraded to married and kids and give birth to duke

>>1754060
>Birth to duke
My god, it's perfect
I actually just started playing duke 3d for real for the first time. The last time I played i wasn't gud and couldnt find all the secrets so I was always low on ammo.

>>1754050
How does she bend like that?

>>1754042
11/10

>>1754071
Chozo dna
the sane way she curls into a ball

>>1754071
I'm not sure if you're aware, anon, but Samus is kind of crazy-flexible.

>>1754071
Are you saying you can't? I'm not even particularly flexible. Try not being fat.

will there be any tournaments and shiit for quakecon 2014 ?

>>1754097
the only thing i can find is some trial


----
DOOM II – Level 13
Scenario: Players will be timed on how quickly they can get through this level of DOOM II while getting 100% completion for Kills, Items, and Secrets.
Level of Difficulty: Ultra Violent Difficulty
Controls: Keyboard/mouse only
Rankings: Best times (1st through 3rd) win based on the in-game time displayed upon completing the level. Must achieve 100% kill, items, and secret ratio to qualify.
----

>>1754069
>Muscles from Doomguy
>Blond hair from Samus

oh god

>>1753971
>>1754038
It might just be me..
but it looks like Doomguy is actually fucking the back of her knee

>>1754032
no as in do it consistent

either all monster or no monster

>>1754126
I thought I was the only one that noticed something was off.

>>1754136
>what is a "work in progress"

>>1754060

>2011
>Couple of weeks after DNF's release
>Doomguy is comforting Samus at the table who is crying
>Samus is depressed becuase of DNF and still recovering from Other M
>Doomguy "Son, I'm not angry.. Just disappointed in you, What the hell were you trying to pull there"
>Duke "I wanted to be like the CoDs dad, Be famous"
>Doomguy "NO, You need to follow family tradition and keeping the fast paced action in FPS"
>Duke "Tradition? WHAT ABOUT DOOM3 DAD, WHAT ABOUT THAT"
>Doomguy "Alright! Doom 3 wasn't the best doom, but it wasn't the worst, It had Mod support, No weapon limitations, No health regan"
>Duke "FUCK YOU DAD, YOU ALWAYS DO THIS TO ME, I'M LEAVING AND NEVER COMING BACK, I'LL BE SOMETHING MORE SOMETHING BETTER THEN YOU'LL EVER BE, YOU JUST WATCH"
>runs outside and gets on his motorcycle
>Doomguy step out on the porch "Duke Nukem You get back here right now young man!"
>Duke "Goodbye dad"
>Drives out the driveway "AND DAD! I HOPE DOOM 4 SUCKS"
>Drives off never to be seen again.

>>1754000
C-Can somebody put this onto imgur?

>>1754025
Got an archive of all of those Doom comics? I wasn't able to grab them in the other thread because I was on a phone.

>>1754175
>DG: "I've gotta do it, I'm putting my resume in to Bethesda."
>S: "Noooo!"

>>1754182
You can check foolz. I forget the name of the guy who does this stuff, but he does these special easter comic and shit.

>>1754184
>WHAT ELSE WILL PAY FOR THESE BILLS, SMASH BROS?

>>1754175
>>1754184
>>1754190

It's so right, and yet...so...so very, very goddamn wrong.

>>1754097
BUMP BUMP...... no one got information on any doom 1-2 tournaments? or has all the focus been directed to doom4 that will probably be released in 2015 anyway, making it completely useless to show now.

>>1754207
>I CAN'T READ THE FIRST FUCKING REPLY I GOT

>>1754214
>cant edit post
>must make a reply to my own post
>ask for additional information since the schedule on quakecons site forces you to download an app.
>I FORGOT CAPS

>>1754136
>wanting to fuck a complete monster

>>1754226
>I STILL CAN'T READ THE FIRST FUCKING REPLY I GOT

>>1754190
>Megaman: At Least Smash will treat you with some fucking Respect!

>>1754236
>not wanting to fuck a complete monster

get a load of this pleb

>>1754126
I think she's facing downward awkwardly

>>1754236
You should visit /d/ for a minute, anon, you'd be surprised (and also horrified, probably).

>>1754242
>Sonic: "Oh LOOK who it is. Like your IP even cares about you anymore and being in some kind of collaborative thing will save you."
>Johnny Dash: "Why are we all in the same house?"

>>1754252
>Solid Snake: It was For Duke's Intervention remember, didn't expect to be Consoling Daddy... and Shut the fuck up Sonic, you're barely any better

>>1754252
>Pac-man: "This is worst fucking house party I've ever been to! I'm outta here!" WAGGAWAGGAWAGGA *slam*

>>1754252
who the fuck is Johnny Dash?

>>1754263
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Monster_Bash

I tried to purposefully pick one of the obscure characters from early DOS. I suppose I could've gone with Jill Of The Jungle or something.

Do you guys plan to have a /vr/ server running this evening/time of the day that apply to you?

>>1754197
I know, makes me want Duke to have a good game just to smooth it out when Doom 4 winds up bad

>>1754276
This.
Any fun modes going on too? I loved doing the minigame maps with you guys.

>>1754257
>Toby Masuyo: Hey Snake, I look forward to your new movie.

>>1754242
>>1754252
>Doomguy: Look at these two shitheads they're lucky enough to get doom mods even.

>>1754290
>Hey my hands are clean, talk sit to my dad on that one

>>1754276
>>1754285

It's not explicitly /vr/, but I just put up a Dreadnought server, if you're interested.

:: [BE] Montreal :: Metroid: Dreadnought - 13 Layers of Hell

>>1754291
>Master Cheif: look pal, we have our differences but I've always respected you, don't be this way you're better than this

Can anyone from the Doom 4 beta tell us how it is and if it has multiplayer yet?

>>1754294
>>1754302
>I invented headshots mates, and no one is gonna take that away.

>>1753971
Jesus christ how does this web even work?

http://en.inkei.net/vagina/a/Sus!Sos!20140710

Just look at the vagina generation damn!

>>1754306
>tf2
>inventing headshots

valve fanboys can't be this delusional

>>1753962
>>1753962

>>1754000
>deleted

fucking hell

>>1754304
It's not out yet m8.

The Wolf preorder just meant they got access when it happened.

>>1754306
>I invented headshots
Excuse me?

All these videogame characters..

They've all had a very hard life.

>>1754324
What was it? Anybody have a link?

I don't know if this was already known (or if this info is even true), but apparently, Dime, the man who ran Doom at the past couple games done quick speedrunning marathons, browses /vr/.
>>>/vg/73133217
>>>/vg/73133420
>>>/vg/73133547

>>1754334
>/srg/

Yeah that's probably flat out bullshit.

>>1754334
Cool.

>>1754097
>>1754207

are you acting retarded on purpose?

http://archive.foolz.us/vr/thread/1674991/#1675718

>>1754324

Surprise, porn isn't allowed on blue boards, even when spoilered.

>>1754318
>he thinks teamfortress wasn't born on quake

wow and I thought /vr/oomers had actual knowlage of classic fpses

>>1754336

someone linked him like the thread after the SGDQ, and yes, he posted here at the time and actually gave a shoutout of sorts in the past AGDQ

I know, >/srg/

>>1754342
Well yeah it was but TF wasn't the FIRST THING EVER to have Headshots in it.

At the very least, it didn't modernize it.

>>1754342
>reading comprehension

>>1754345

wait, I got the events switched. AGDQ was first, and yadda yadda

>>1754324
>>1754332

it was porno of anthro demon ladies

artist is robot joe (he's on tumblr)

>>1754334
That's neat, I like the guy. Mad respect for that Plutonia speedrun.
I liked that race where the other guy, on first place, spent a lot of time trying to glide and he couldn't, then Dime reaches that spot and does it in like 2 seconds. That was hilarious.

>>1754276
That looks pretty boss. Anybody got more art of marines together?

>>1754324
It's in the Foolz archives, here https://archive.DELETEITfoolz.us/vr/thread/1753913/#1754000

>>1754391

When are they gonna make Cosby Doom

>>1754410
Along with Cosby Nukem

>>1754298

Feel free to pop in, we're having fun.

>>1754421
calling all boards
>>>/b/555701738

Just got banned on /mu/ for saying I didn't like a highly-appreciated album in a polite way

Sup guys

Been considering to buy Doom for the SNES. I've played the original PC version. How is the SNES version in comparison?

>>1754497
dont

>>1754497
it sucks

>>1754502
>>1754504
Okay thanks anons

>>1754421

>>1754497
>Just got banned on /mu/ for saying I didn't like a highly-appreciated album in a polite way
Nice blog man. Where can I VIDEO GAMES

>>1754517
Samus got a Chainsaw hand?

>>1754546
It's the Doom Cannon's charge combo.

>>1754527

>>1754517
How do you enable that HUD?

>>1754527
>literally one sentence
>nice blog
Not sure if that's meant to be ironic but you're the only one here who seems to have a problem

How active is the /vr/ Doom steam group? I joined a bunch of dead ones in the past so no offense but

>>1754563
Change screen size

>>1754563
Pretty sure that's the default, try changing your screen size there anon

>>1754567
>How active is the /vr/ Doom steam group?

It isn't, and it's maintained by a fuckhead who refuses to merge with the others.
Your best bet is to join the IRC, it's active every day.

so can anyone recommend good sound packs?

>>1754584
Thanks anon

>>1754517

Bloody rain so real.

>Weapon mods with angled weapons
Okay cool
>Angled projectile weapons
Neat I guess
>Projectiles hit the wall if you're next to it
This is not okay

>>1754590

Hm.

>>1754630
What is that satanic symbol above the beams? Satanic Beam?

since older fps are allowed in here what did you guys think of the n64 port of Quake 2? I'm running through it right now after shaking off the urge to quit playing because of the controller. I actually like the flow of this better than the pc version

>>1754585
Perk's sounds. It's the original sounds taken from the original sound libraries. Just in perfect high quality. I can't play without it.

Although if you're not into that, try the PSX/N64 sounds

>>1754651
I'll look into them I already have the Zombie voices pack

aside from the PSX Doom, is there a mod that adds Doom 2 enemies in fitting parts of Doom one?

>>1754637
Doom Cannon. If metroid_doomcannon is on, it replaces the chainsaw.

It can also be the chainsaw.

>>1754659

Also the only weapon that can be used with Speed Booster.
You haven't had "kill-frenzy fun" until you've run around with chainsaw at full blast and speed booster.

>>1754675
any plans for Metroid style enemies?

>>1754684

Yes, actually that's the plan right now.
I can't draw worth a damn, but I've got a few artists who were interested and they're doing different things. I'm just fiddling with behavior while waiting for them to finish and desperately hoping that they do

>>1754651
>>1754652
Got download links?

>>1754697
so is it going to be a blend of pirates and demons, or full replacements?

>>1754702

Full replacements.

http://forum.zdoom.org/viewtopic.php?f=19&t=45872&start=105#p767269 - Under the spoiler here is the general plan I've got so far, with everything except the Wolfenstein SS figured out.

>>1754648
I didn't play the N64 version of Quake 2.
I really like Quake 2 though.

What does the N64 version do differently?

>>1754697

Beat all of Reverie. Now onto the plain, undecorated hallways of Hell Revealed!

>>1754705
so the plan is to eventually abandon the crossover plot and be pure metroid?

>>1754774
>doom
>plot

>>1754774

There was never any crossover plot planned in the first place, so I wouldn't call it "abandoned".
But yes, I'd like to make it pure Metroid, though maybe with a few Doom elements (rocket jumping with super missiles, the Doom cannon, maybe a demon as the Wolfenstein SS enemies, etc).
For mappers who really really really want the Doom demons, though, separate Decorate spawns for them will be provided, which will always spawn the demons even with the Metroid enemies cvar turned on.

>>1754675
>Also the only weapon that can be used with Speed Booster.
>disrespecting the sword beam
term i know ur butt still hurts but pls

>>1754803

I will turn this car around and drive back home, mister.

>>1754786
Nice mirrored picture.

>>1754497
It's not as good as the PC version, but more than I would've expected from a SNES version. If you have a good idea what the SNES is capable of you'll likely be impressed, but not necessarily entertained...

>>1754835
wot

>>1754841
Samus's cannon is on the wrong arm.

Does anyone here happens to have this monster generator?

http://www.doomworld.com/vb/doom-general/50291-random-monster-generator-dload-1st-post

>>1754835
>>1754847

It's how the artist handed it to me, so I assume either he forgot or drew it backwards.

As someone who just started playing Doom this year because of these generals, thank you. I'm actually enjoying video games again.

I haven't been this excited to play them since I really got into Stalker, though I seem to have stormed through Doom 1&2, and most of the Final Doom WADs. Played them all as vanilla as possible, though I didn't realize crouch and jump weren't in the default games until later. Are there any high speed fanmade wads to enjoy? I love the fast paced gunning in Doom, It never gets old for me to speed into a room and decimate enemies with the DB shotgun, while navigating around them.

>>1754912
Oh man, there's so many.
Try Deus Vult 2 for a great mapset, and Project MSX for a fantastic gameplay mod.

>>1754912
>high sped

parias in samsara is gr8, he wrecks shit hard
project msx is also gr8 because every moment is life and death
gmota is fun as hell with lots of RIP AND TEAR but no guns so

>>1754912

Enjoy, friend.

>>1754912
If you liked the feel, I'd recommend trying Raven Software's Doom-based games, Heretic and Hexen. They do amazingly to make you feel like a fucking powerhouse. How does being a METAL AS SHIT MAGUS sound? How does having an arsenal of MEDIEVAL FANTASY GUNPOWDER sound? How does fucking SMASHING PEOPLES HEADS IN WITH A GODDAMN HAMMER GIVEN TO YOU BY YE GODS THEMSELVES sound?

If you're looking for good immurshun, I'd look into Strife. It's pretty weird, but you definitely feel like a rebel trying to infiltrate and annihilate an evil corrupt government.

And of course, there are a metric assload of WADs out there for you to try. I'd recommend some popular megawads like Alien Vendetta. If you wanted more levels and more difficulty, the Modding community has got you covered.

And if you ever get bored, you can always take the /vr/ gauntlet (link below), or generate random maps with Oblige.

Just a reminder that most DOOM and Heretic mods do not require jumping, but Hexen introduced it.

http://doomworld.com/idgames/?random

http://pastebin.com/mGG7qw3C

>dat timing

>>1754951
I dabbled around a bit in Strife actually, I was pleasantly surprised.
Not exactly as toned down as most FPS these days that make you work from the ground up, but considering this was during a time where the only theme shooters had going for them was to kill everything you see, I can really appreciate what they did.

I'll try out Hexen for sure, though isn't mouselook pretty buggy and distorted? I figured it would mess with the sprites.

>>1754951
Man, every time I think about Hexen I just want to start a map pack for it... I don't care for the original levels much, and they actually ruin what could be a great game.

>>1754962

>not realizing how irc names work

>>1754981

>missing the point

>>1754980
>Man, every time I think about Hexen I just want to start a map pack for it...

Go for it, man; releasing a single custom map for either Hexen or even Heretic will get you a lot of attention

>>1754962

faggot

>>1754989

someone get this bonehead out of here

>>1754934
>gmota is fun as hell with lots of RIP AND TEAR but no guns so

u wot? and what's about that supershotgun thingie on the arm which I was seeing the other day?

>>1754994

He could be referring to GMOTA having no hitscan weapons.

yet.

>>1754997
Can you add a rock weapon for Blaz? Make it hitscan with 1 damage or so. Just to hit switches.

>>1754987
How does attention help me?

>>1755004

I really do need to give him -something- to trigger switches, probably an inventory item to ping shit.

I should give him a light source item too, like knight vision goggles.

>>1755007
>knight vision goggles
Haha, that's great.

>>1755007
>knight vision goggles.

>>1755007
How about something like.. Take the first projectile fired by the arm cannon right?

And then make it thin as fuck.

>>1755015

If I do that, I could just make the arm cannon fire a harmless hitscan puff before it starts spewing out those energy shots

>>1755016
This would probably be the best course of action.

>>1754964
Well, what source port are you using? ZDoom or GZDoom?

If it's ZDoom, then sprites are billboarded to your viewpoint. They'll just look like they're crawling on the ground or something. If it's GZDoom, you can choose whether they'll be paper or plastered.

As for distortion, that's usually only for level geometry. You'll notice that you can't look all the way down or up in ZDoom vs GZDoom, and edges of some stuff when mouselooking get stretched like you were looking at them with your peripheral vision.

>>1755007
>knight vision goggles

>>1755035
The distortion of the Software (normal ZDoom) renderer is because of the "hack" it uses to achieve freelook in a raycasting engine. It's the same method pioneered in Heretic and adapted into ZDoom.

Did the Metroid mod ever get a SNES sounds addon?
Did Eriguns ever get updated with any of the cool stuff Eriance finished?

>>1755231
>Did the Metroid mod ever get a SNES sounds addon?

I'm about halfway done with that, actually. The second half is a big ol' hurdle, though.
The big problem is trying to do SNES souds for things that never had 'em in the first place, like the charge combos, doom cannon, and etc. So I'm having to learn about SNES sound creation and, well, make new ones.

It's a fun little project, though.

>>1755238
>doom cannon
There was an SNES port of Doom.

>>1755240

I'm not going to lie.
I feel kind of stupid now.

>>1755238
I actually think it would be okay to keep the beam combos with normal sounds

But that's just my opinion.

>>1755246
I don't blame you son, the SNES version wasn't really the best port, the good thing from that port though was how the music sounded pretty dang good.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3Qq3r5gyH9E

>>1755253
whoever who re-edited the doom music on the snes did a cool job imo
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WgVIQ0pgtqM

>>1755262
This is my favorite doom song actually. The SNES version is best version...

pls I'm a newb I am playing Doom for the first time (I am too young to die) and I am stuck with the cyberdemon. How do I kill him ?

>>1755346
Shoot him until he dies.
From the official Nintendo Power magazine

>>1755346
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gYRxdUgxayE

>>1755346

Have you tried shooting him?

>>1755353
>>1755354
I have problems dodging its rockets.
>>1755358
I have 100 missiles.

>>1755362

Shoot him lots. And remember he always fires his rockets in barrages of 3.

stay the fuck away from walls

>>1755362
Like most Doom 1 demons the projectiles it shoots goes straight and it will always aim at you so just don't stand in the same spot for any period of time and you will be fine.

I have some questions about the multiplayer tag in Doom Builder.
-Do weapons tagged with MP only appear in deathmatch, or do they appear in co-op games as well?
-If there's a door that needs a key in the level should I just not have anything like deathmatch starts or MP weapons behind it, unless there's a way to get past the door like a teleport?
I'm making maps in my vast amount of spare time, & I'm aiming to make a full WAD's worth of levels though I'm not expecting myself to complete this, it's just a hobby. I don't expect the WAD to get any amount of fame, & I'm not sure if I should even bother with the multiplayer crap, but I saw that most of the Doom 2 maps had a couple of weapons, armor, etc. in for DM, so I thought why not add stuff in for multiplayer just in case people want to DM on the maps.

>>1755362
Keep moving side to side, around him in a circle while shooting him. You'll get the hang of it eventually, but for a start just don't try to change directions while he can see you, because that one moment when you're standing still could be enough for him to land a rocket.

Also, try staying a reasonable distance from him, and any walls around you. So you can see them coming, and to avoid the explosions.

>>1755369
the multiplayer flag hides items in solo. they will appear in both co-op and deathmatch.

there are also flags that mean "hide item in co-op", and "hide item in DM", but they are not supported by vanilla (Boom introduced them).

a locked door will remain locked to players in co-op without the appropriate key, but deathmatch players will be able to open them always. effectively, in deathmatch you start with all the keys already.

>>1755371
I'm not using Boom, so should I just put stuff in mind for deathmatch & not worry too much about co-op? Though, I guess I could also put in some extra monsters tagged for multiplayer, since DM disables all monsters right? & thanks for answering

>>1755354
>a car
I can confirm that this is a viable strategy

>>1755378
that would be fine, i mean, the original game had all the deathmatch weapons available in co-op as well, and nobody minded.

deathmatch doesn't disable monsters automatically, you can play deathmatch maps with monsters. but no one ever does.

Everyone yelled at me and Yholl

"WE WANT A CHALLANGE!" they said

"THE HEAVY POWERSUIT ISN'T HARD ENOUGH" they cried

Yholl got angry.

>>1755346
Do not use the rocket launcher. The Cyberdemon has the hardcoded NORADIUSDMG flag (by default), thus he takes no damage from the rocket explosion, only from the rocket itself.

And if you are in E2M8 right now, watch out for Lost Souls. They tend to block Cybers rockets and make them explode and you will most certainly die by the splash damage.

I suggest you use the plasmarifle, it is the best weapon for this map (beside the BFG of course).
But if you're with the RL, it will take some time and skill.

And why are you playing on easy peasy mode? Play Hurt me plenty. I'm sure you are not that much of a weak marine.

pic related

>>1755426
make it even more challanging
:^)

>>1755432
*challenging

>>1755432
Well, let's put it this way.

When I was testing, he killed me.

In God Mode.

>>1754751
Different set of levels and someone vomited color everywhere.

I had fun with it though.

There are a handful of architectural similarities in some of the levels; I'd bet $20 they were going for a straight port before deciding pretty early on it wasn't going to work.

>>1755440
the game was coded so you can still get telefragged when invulnerable, to prevent players being stuck together.

however, this left god mode vulnerable to sufficiently high damage as a side effect.

this is nothing new or interesting, it's just a bug in the game engine. MBF and derivatives have a "god mode is absolute" option (comp_god) - i would be surprised if zdoom did not have similar.

>>1755447
Way to completely miss my point. I'm well aware of this.

What I was GETTING at is that it can do over 1 million damage straight in some of it's attacks. Not even the best Defense and Shields can block against all of that.

I can't seem to recall does the doom engine allow sloped floors? I don't think it does but for some reason I think a map in Episode 3 has slopes on it.

>>1755451
Godmode blocks only up to 1000 damage, doesn't it? 1 million is what a telefrag does.

>>1755447 (me)
>as a side effect.

in fact it seems to have been deliberate. P_DamageMobj has

// Below certain threshold,
// ignore damage in GOD mode, or with INVUL power.
if ( damage < 1000
&& ( (player->cheats&CF_GODMODE)
|| player->powers[pw_invulnerability] ) )
{
return;
}

i.e. god mode was explicitly added to the same test.

strange choice, though.

>>1755451
>Way to completely miss my point. I'm well aware of this.
sorry, i wasn't trying to suggest otherwise. you seem to be labouring under the misapprehension that i was trying to correct you. no offence was intended. i merely enjoy sharing tidbits of information that maybe someone out there hasn't heard before.

>>1755354

>someone posted my video

Heh. T-thanks

>>1755454
It was changed from 1000 to 1 million in ZDoom due to requests and back when DECORATE was new and monsters were being made that were starting to do more damage and whatnot.

>>1755460
>thinks of Russian Overkill
>Imagines someone trying to cheat under the old limits

HAHAHAHAHAHA.

>>1755458
What's the music called? I've heard it so many times...

>>1755346
>(I am too young to die)
You probably killed him by now but goddamn anon grow some balls.

>>1755463

The Noveltones - Left Bank Two

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UcCHRW8G9yY

>>1755465
Thank you very much!

>>1755431
Choose two
>drop trip
>get banned
>stop shitposting

>>1755426
Is it even possible to kill that guy?

20 million HP seems like a might too much.

>>1755480
Well, technically he can choose the first 2 and then ban avoid and keep shitposting. Which, may I add, he isn't.

>>1755486
Yes, you can. Took me about 20 minutes but I managed it with maxed out stats, Augmentations, Stim abuse, properly timing shield recahrging, etc.

>>1755492
>Which, may I add, he isn't.

sure

>>1755486
>>1755497

Yeah, I mean, not even a fan of DRLA but considering how powered you may become it's quite easy to do so

>>1755492
>"h-hey guise! the shitposter is not banevading! I-i swear"
Fuck off to >>>/v/

>>1754029
>>1754032
>>1754136

The animu is staying, it's been a part of the plan since day one. That, and these are supposed to monster girls, they're supposed to have human facial elements.

That said, I do like the stuff done by >>1754000
- but it wouldn't quite work in-game due to the fact that i'm trying to keep the monster height fairly in-line with their original counterparts: otherwise you'll have monsters clipping through ceilings and the like (that, and we have a caco design nailed down - pain elemental will likely be something similar). As far as art goes though, good stuff!

>>1755513
>and we have a caco design nailed down

any pictures?

>>1755543
Oh I bet it's "nailed down" all right.

>>1755543
>any pictures?

here we go again

>>1754060
This is now canon.

>>1755593
where's the dead rabbit?

>>1755594
they had it for dinner

>>1755596
They ate Daisy? ;_;

>>1755202
so it's there to help maintain depth?

>>1753914
Gzdoom is coming to Android very soon

>>1755262
man we need an Ultimate soundtrack pack from all the doom adaptations

>>1755607
Really? Link?
I can already imagine the horrible controls.

>>1755608
There used to be a pack that went around on here with all the console soundtracks in it, dunno if it's still around.

>>1754347
>Well yeah it was but TF wasn't the FIRST THING EVER to have Headshots in it.

lol yeah it was. TF for quake was the first game to have headshots. god, that is /v/ level ignorance.

Is it just me or are enemy sprites and sounds a lot better with ZDoom? I like GZ Doom because it uses a better method of mouselook, but everything seems so much worse now.

I don't know if it's because I'm loading it with GMOTA, but the voxel pack that was linked in the previous thread does some weird stuff sometimes. Like not show any voxels.

Restarting GZDoom seemed to fix the issue, but I just played a whole level filled with invisible torches (you could still see the fire sprites), obvious keys I couldn't find because they were invisible, and CYBERDEMONS FIRING INVISIBLE ROCKETS.

>>1755723
At least it isn't an Invisible Cyberdemon.

Is there going to be a Cyberdemon replacement for GMOTA?

>>1754497
It's a pretty sorry piece of work in my opinion, but like all the other ports, it's still Doom, it may not be as refined or tasty as PC Doom, or as filling as Doom 64, but you still have Doom, you have the action, the monsters, the maps, the violence, the music, the important parts, sure, it's all a bit scaled down and simplified, but if it's the only Doom you have, you're guaranteed to enjoy it for what it is.

The music, while not as good as the original, is really great in it's own right.

>>1754912
Welcome to Doom.

Here's a few of my personal favorites:
Plutonia 2
Plutonia Community Project Revisited
Action Doom
Action Doom 2 : Urban Brawl
Epic 2
Deus Vult 2
Doom The Way Id Did It
Hellcore 2.0
Jenesis
Wonderful Doom
UAC Ultra
Pirate Doom
Back To Saturn X Episode 1 : Get out of my stations

A short while ago I played Back To Saturn X with the gameplay mod Accessories To Murder, and found it to be a very good fit aesthetically (I'm also playing through Jenesis with it, I think this might be one of my favorite gameplay mods)

I must also say that Back To Saturn X was both jawdroppingly beautiful and fun as all fuck to play, make sure you play it, with or without gameplay mods, it's fantastic either way.

>>1755752
>Epic 2
>Try to play it with DoomRPG and all the other shennanigans
>Hell Barons in second map

It is weird playing wads that have their own monsters overwritten with RPGs scripts. Especially the "return to arenas you murdered a gazillion only to find an arch-vile spawned now". And said Arch-Vile is now a boss spawn.

>>1755385
E.Y.E: was such a weird game.

>>1755452
Pure Doom doesn't, but an earlier build of it did. The function was removed on release.

>>1755607
Bout damn time.

>>1755697
Jesus, I'm an idiot. I was under the assumption that since he posted the TF2 sniper, that's what we were referring to.

(Canonically they're not the same person either.)

Survival horror mod.
1. Replace midi music with ambient one form PSX version.
2. Less ammo, make every bullet count.
3. More fog and dark areas.
What do you think, /doom/?

>>1755426
Wait... Is that Doom Roguelike? I've been gone for a while.

>>1755804
DoomRPG

>>1755786
>Epic 2
>Try to play it with DoomRPG
http://vocaroo.com/i/s1sCTubbBbcJ

>>1755824
What's the original source of that scream anyway? Mortal Kombat?

>>1755797
Stupid

>>1755793
should have posted this guy

>>1755643
GZDoom on Android, running Brutal Doom. Coming so…: http://youtu.be/L_-LyPsL3nM

This will be OK with 2d aiming mode on the shield

>>1755829
I believe so.

>>1755834
who the fuck is that?

>>1755824
ahaha i can't stop playing this
it possibly sounds funnier played backwards

>>1755852
TF/TFC Sniper.

Oh hi, i just played yesterday the 200 minutes megawad, is a nice megawad with some really cool maps in it, i enjoyed playing it!

https://www.mediafire.com/?3d459u7ctt9buv7

here, i made a speedmap in 2 hours because why not. Enjoy.

>>1755873
TFC.. Quake tf would look like minecraft.

>>1755881
Well I just figured since it was a drawing...

>>1755829
It'd be Johnny Cage from Mortal Kombat, if I'm not mistaken.

>>1755876
hello, i know your work. welcome to the board and thanks for enjoying our work.

here is a first try of your map. it misses a secret and a couple of monsters. the return teleporter at the end doesn't have a destination sector (there is no sector with tag 8).

demo (-complevel 2): http://temp-host.com/download.php?file=zv85li

>>1755797

Play Buttpain.

>>1756025
I just played this. Well, I made it through 5 levels without map, weapons or enemies and then suddenly died. 10/10 will play again.

>>1754941
Damn. All the wads 4chan made are terrible. Anyone on here actually make vanilla maps that are fun to play?

>>1756079
If you like the concept of that wad you could also try Lasting Light.

I give up, PrBoom+ maximum SFX volume is too damn low, Imma switch to ZDoom.

>>1756101
Whoa whoa whoawhoaWHOA.
FKER's and GMOTA's wads are hella fun.

>>1756101

Oh, so you just hate gameplay mods.

>>1756124
They are all overmodded heaps of shit. And Hdoom is for pedo. Any one of you queers have the skill it takes to make a decent level pack for fucking doom.

>>1756128
Welp. Looks like I fell for a shitposter. Damnit.

>>1756127
No. Only the shit ones.

>>1756128
>And Hdoom is for pedo

>>1756130
>Anyone on here actually make vanilla maps that are fun to play?

Yeah nah.

>>1756129
>He disagrees with me he's a shitposter

>>1756140
>Any one of you queers have the skill it takes to make a decent level pack for fucking doom.
>Not shitposting.

>>1756138
Fat neckbeard faggots who watch anime and loli. Honestly I have not met a single tolerable human who watches anime. Always the most awkward autistic losers. Leave it to the zandronum community to bring ponies and anime to doom. Fucking 10 -18 year old player base on that port. Ruining doom. You little faggots.

>>1756148
oh it's you again, still holding out from the last raid? since no one can resist the bait I'm going to take a break from this thread

>>1756143
Report and stop derailing the thread, yo.

>>1756119
are the sounds too quiet or the music too loud?

>>1756143
Just trying to spark some intelligent convo and wrap my head around why you virgin faggots are spreading shitty gook culture into our glorious western culture doom. Please just move to Japan and get beaten to death by the very people you worship because they HATE you gweilo.

>>1756119
Never had that issue, what are your settings?

>>1756153
The sounds are too quiet. Music's OK.

>>1756152
Fuck you. GO on reddit if you want censored, opinion stomping, hivemind, non anonymous conversations with the same people day in day out. You faggots should not be on 4chan.

So I'm working on another overmodded gameplay mod sure to piss spergs off simply by existing, and let's talk about some of the most annoying monsters in the bestiary: Lost Souls, Archviles, Revenants, Chaingun Guys.

How would you guys feel about the following changes:

1: Lost Souls have +ALWAYSFAST and stop after travelling a short distance if they don't hit anything.
2: Archviles teleport away a short distance on pain.
3: Revenants have removed melee.
4: Chaingunners have reduced painchance.

>>1756154
well you could spark intelligent conversation by, you know, speaking intelligently

>>1756156
Here. SFX is at maximum.

>made my post about the RPG and RLA not working together 3 days ago
>not one response
what did I do to deserve this?

Hey, what's one real life weapon you'd want in Doom?

>>1756175

Didn't post it again and/or bump it.
Alternatively, if people didn't reply, it's possible they don't know.

>>1756160
add this to piss more off
>pain elemental teleports behind player when pain
>rapid fire lost soul barrage when player is in line of sight
>all shotgun guys have super shotgun

Anyone on here actually play doom?

>>1756204
So what do you think we are doing here?

>>1756204
What are you getting at?

>>1756204
That seems like a troll-ish comment.

>>1756204
Nigga all I do is play doom

get home from work, play doom


it's kinda sad really

>>1756207
>>1756208
>>1756210
>>1756212
playing doom. Not megaman overmods. Just wondering if it's all zandronum fanboys on here or not.

>>1756157
orry to state the obvious but if you turn the music down you can hear the sounds better

>>1756204
where do you think we are?

>>1756204
When I get home Imma eat then make some Doom maps.

All my posts were removed. This is why 4chan is shit now.

>>1756216
Megaman Deathmatch is not a mod, its a separate game. And yes, we are playing vanilla.

So the current Zandronum beta is the only source port in which I can get dynamic lighting to work. In any version of gzDoom or Skulltag and even in older versions of Zandronum, transparent objects in the glow of a dynamic light become opaque. Sometimes it just looks ugly like pic related, but sometimes it makes the game way harder than it needs to be because I can't see monsters in cages; fireballs and hitscans just come out of black squares in the walls.

The fact that gzDoom and Skulltag used to work for me, the fact that the current Zandronum beta works just fine, and the fact that I get the exact same transparency glitches on my friends' computers would lead me to believe that it's an issue with the source ports and not with my PC. Maybe a borked install or something?

I've tried deleting the folders and downloading the .zips/installers again, I've tried old versions that I know used to work/were specified in the .wads readme, and I've changed about every graphics setting in the options menu. I even looked through all the appdata folders to see if there was a config file I missed. Nothing fixes the issue.

Any ideas? Zandronum works 90% of the time, but some things just won't run in it.

How do you guys play DOOM?
I do Chocolate if I'm just playing the base game or speedrunning and ZDoom for when I play with mods.

>>1756216
>>1756204

I'm a mainly-vanilla player and I'm loading up a gameplay mod just to piss you off.

>>1756231
I could care less. I enjoy the torture you are about to put yourself through.

>>1756204
>>1756216
>>1756128
Yeah, we play Doom. You know why enough people play Doom 20+ years later to have at least three active communities? The answer isn't "hex editor maps from 1994."

>>1756225
It's a mod. Just another turd squeezed by the newwave doom community.

>>1756245
What are the other two communities?

>>1756245
Incorrect. It's just one ingredient.

>>1756246
No, its not a mod. It does not requre original wads to run. So, you think Heretic and Hexen are mods?

>>1756216
>>1756246
If you had any doubt that >>1756204 was bait, you've been proven wrong.

>>1756219
The music is at minimum mate.
>>1756246
It's not a mod.

>>1756254
Do NOT respond.

>>1756254
To be fair, Heretic and Hexen both modified the engine. A better example would be Chex Quest.

haha you guys are EZ. Anyway i'm out. Enjoy your shitty overmodded junk little kiddies. Have fun on zandronum br0nies yay!

>>1756227
Mainly GZDoom, but sometimes I'm playing DOOM on PrBoom+ or Doom Retro.

>>1756248
not him but doomworld, zdoom, and zandronum forums are all busy sites with hundreds of posts per day

>>1756198

Actually, I was thinking of turning shotgun-guys into zombiemen that fire shots of three, sort of the in-between step between zombiemen and chaingunners.

Here's the plan I have for all the monsters:

1: All enemy hitscans replaced with speed 50 projectiles. All projectiles can be shot down.
2: Zombiemen fire faster and have +MISSILEMORE.
3: Shotgunguys fire three-shot bursts and have +MISSILEMORE.
4: Chaingunguys have reduced painchance.
5: Imps move/fire faster, removed melee.
6: Pinkies are +ALWAYSFAST and bite faster. Spectres don't exist.
7: Cacodemons use A_FastChase and have blue blood.
8: Nobles have +MISSILEMORE and no longer melee.
9: Fatsos no longer fire in a pattern, but instead rapid-fire their shots like beefy chaingunners.
10: Arachnotrons fire in a spread.
11: Revenants no longer melee.
12: Archviles teleport away on pain, no longer attack--can resurrect other archviles.

>>1756286
>can resurrect other archviles.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OIoMfVNVx4g

>>1756286
other archviles resurrecting archviles is too much man

>>1756261
right, so you've got music pretty much turned off and you still can't hear the sounds at maximum volume? damn, i've never had this problem. i've just done some testing and it does seem that zdoom is slightly louder at max volume than pr+ but there's not a great deal of difference

on linux btw, not that that should make a difference

>>1756286
A good amount of this can be accomplished by using the -uvfast command.

>>1756301
It's weird. I'll try to redownload I guess.
In my PC ZDoom 0.2 SFX volume is louder that PrBoom+'s max.

>>1755730

Need a source sir, please.

>>1756314

HDoom.
It's in the news post.

>Playing through ALT with RLA
>Focus Super Shotgun + Sniper Mod
Oh god yes.

>>1756272
Is this even called trolling? Seems more like he's stringing nonsensical arguments together with random insults. And, he can't even spell his words right.

>>1756319

I mean the picture.

>>1756286
So what's the point of the mod? Just to make everything harder?

>>1756329
Just flat out don't respond. We have a report button for a reason. U S E I T.

>>1756330
Not him but iirc it's just a rip and tear edit.
Don't have it atm tho.

>>1756334

Sort of.
The emphasis is to go really fast and carve shit up with a powerful sword that bisects things and leaves a lot of blood.
Just turns out between the super-powerful attacks and the retro-style health system (you get hit, you lose a point of health, you're invulnerable for a bit), the enemies are kind of piss-easy. So I want to make them faster and more dangerous without just "oh increase the damage".

When everything does only a point of damage to you, it's not so much the damage that matters, it's how much of a douchebag the enemies are.

>>1756361
sounds like Doom 1987 NES (FUCK RENTERS) edition

>>1756361
Like Action Doom but it doesn't make me feel like someone messed up trying to make Hideous Destructor with it? Neat.

>>1754497
What is it with the rest of 4chan these days? I feel like I get banned or universally told to fuck off every time I try to have a friendly discussion outside of /vr/.

Also, is /a/ basically that kid in school that told a teacher when they saw you wearing the wrong color undershirt under your uniform? I've been there three times in my life to have a friendly discussion, and I've been immediately banned every time.

>>1756413
How'd you try to start the discussion?

>>1756413
>Going on /a/ and expecting any civility

Your fault

>>1756365
>>1756378

Hopefully. This is way outside the norm for typical gameplay mods, so I'm a little nervous about how it'll turn out.
Even at their most outlandish, a lot of mods just boil down to basic "point gun at enemy, they die, health is measured in percentages".

Still, once I get the basic system ready, I'll be sure to run it by you guys to see how it is.

for anyone who hasn't seen it, dew wrote a review of 200 minutes of /vr/

http://www.doomworld.com/vb/post/1286090

>>1756462

I went to /idgames to check if 200minvr was there already, but it seems that it doesn't.

Anyway, I guess we can rely on RjY on that aspect; my suspicions are that he installed a plugin that refreshes the /idgames tab frequently and tells him whenever it shows up :-)

>>1756160

>Piss off spergs

Nigga that's going to agitate EVERYONE

DO IT

>>1756005
Thank you and thanks for the FDA!

https://www.mediafire.com/?3d459u7ctt9buv7

teleport fixed

>>1756426
Last time, it was "Hey, you guys like _____ in anime? I really like ______. _____ and _____ are my favorites. What do you guys like?"

To be fair, requests are officially prohibited on 4chan outside of /r/, but to be fair, I see request threads EVERYWHERE without any opposition or complaint, and to be even fairer, unless you're requesting cumshot/nude photoshops of teenage girls' facebook pictures, you probably won't get any replies on /r/.

>>1756286

I might be dumb but...

Why remove spectres ?

>>1756552

For this gameplay direction, I want every enemy to be clearly seen and recognized, instead of having some ass you can't see nip you from behind and take your last hit.
Since you have a limited lifepool (as long-lasting as it is), I want every single hit to be something like "I should have dodged that quicker" or "I shouldn't have lunged in melee range that quickly" or "I shouldn't have forgotten about him", not "I couldn't see the guy".

>>1756534
>"What do you guys like?"
I see. What you did is ask for recommendations. Even if you didn't intend it, that's what it looks like. Asking for recommendations is bannable, I assume because otherwise the board would be flooded with them. Basically it would be like if every 10th post in this thread was "Hi, I really enjoyed DTWID. Can you recommend me some wads like it that work with Brutal Doom?"

>>1754840
>If you have a good idea what the SNES is capable of you'll likely be impressed, but not necessarily entertained...
Well I grew up on the SNES so I have a good feel for the type of games in its library. Maybe I'll pick up a copy then.

>>1756467
it is now!

http://www.doomworld.com/idgames/?file=levels/doom2/megawads/200minvr.zip

also: crontabs actually.

>>1756413
>Also, is /a/ basically that kid in school that told a teacher when they saw you wearing the wrong color undershirt under your uniform?
It's like 50% that and 50% people there just to chill and talk about anime. Of course the former 50% is the loud, obnoxious half.

And to be fair by default you shouldn't expect to receive a well-thought response when making a post on a big thread. Small boards (/vr/, /out/, /x/, /toy/, etc.) tend to have small communities so even though everyone is anonymous, everyone knows each other for the most part and order is maintained.

On the bigger boards (/a/, /b/, /v/, /pol/, etc.) there are so many people who go there and enough people who go there so infrequently they don't care about the quality of discussion that you get a lot of people intentionally flinging shit for the sake of it.

The fact that /vr/ is small and gets along well 95% of the time is why I'm proud to say it's my home board. Pic related.

I see a lot of people posting screenshots of DoomRLA where you can see that's it's fucking awesome, with cool weapons, armors, monsters & shit. When I play DoomRLA it's a janky, slow-paced mod with stupid weapons and the same monsters. I rarely even find those stupid modpacks. It's not even fun goddamn

>>1756286
>6: Pinkies are +ALWAYSFAST and bite faster. Spectres don't exist.

Sounds a bit like Demonicron, where regular Pinkies look like the D3 ones and the spectres are replaced by these hellish cockroaches (-fast pinkies)

I'd say go for it.

Also, have you guys noticed how almost every single (if not all) gameplay mod made by someone from this place has been beefed up on speed?

Dakka, Fractal Doom, BurlTumd, Demonicron, you name it.

>>1756606

HABEMUS /IDGAMES!

>>1756608
i've said it before but: dunbar's number. societies larger than a given size are dysfunctional. /vr/doom is small enough to not exceed the limit.

>>1756614

Crank up the difficulty, make sure to use the DoomRLA monster addon, and play as technition to eat useless guns to turn them into mod packs

>>1756618
Thanks, I will try that

>>1756614
Play on a big mapset.

>>1756629
Suggestions? I tried using Oblige, but it's not that great

Doing this post because oooh boy if I don't I'm sure I'm going to forget about it

>>1756606
>>1753914

and a shorter /idgames link, for character limit purposes
www.doomworld.com/idgames/index.php?id=17781

>>1756657
Deus Vult 2 is always nice.

>>1756661
Deus Vult 2 was a great wad, thanks for the suggestion

>>1756482

>>1756748
Fucked up some of his teeth too. Oh well.

Does anyone have an updated list of doomRLA's exclusive assemblies?
A joke map with dozens of computer area maps would be sweet too.

>>1756812
The test map has a whole bunch of computer maps. Only problem is that since it doesn't have a MAPINFO entry, you can't changemap to it.

>>1756812
You could buy a ton of maps (and even the blueprint computer that gives you 3 assemblies at once) from the shop in doomRPG.

>>1756325
ALT is so fucking good aaaaaaaaaa

I've been fucking around with the sword wave and I really am wondering if I should keep it in or not. It makes the swordplay a little more balanced seeing as they're the only way to make monsters flinch, but they also share the same resource as subweapons.

I'm getting to the point with Blaz where everything is a delicate balancing game

Question, how do you apply mods to Armor in RLA? I wanna craft me some of that sweet, sweet cerberus armor.

>>1756851
The only mod that can be applied to armors are onyx mods. Assembled armors are just found randomly.

>>1756859
So I just have to hope I find Cerberus Armor then? It says on the RLA Wiki that you can get it by applying PPON mods to any armor.

>>1756862
That's the DoomRL wiki. You can't apply mods to armor in RLA aside from the onyx mod and the Cybernetic Armor's special ability.

>>1756862
The wiki is for the actual roguelike, not the Doom mod based on it. There's a lot of things in it that aren't in the DRLA yet.

>>1756838
Make the grappling hook faster but less spammable.

>they're the only way to make monsters flinch
Out of the 3 high-flinchitis-inducing attacks that Blaz has, the wave is by far the weaker one.
Are you drunk, sir?

>>1756864
>>1756865
Oh fuck me, I didn't even notice that it was for the original Doom RL.

There is a list of assemblies for RLA though, right?

http://jason.sperske.com/wad/
>A fun experiment with Python to open up DOOM/Hexen WAD files and try and render them as SVG (still working out some bugs)
This is pretty cool.

>>1756871
http://pastebin.com/mG7F9ktg

I'm fairly sure this one is out of date, though.

http://pastebin.com/2e3nMtbG
Descriptions of the various assemblies' effects. Again, I think its somewhat outdated.

>>1756872
Explain why please.

>>1756870

Define faster, like less delay between hitting the zoom key and throwing out a hook?

and I meant it's the only way to make monsters flinch if you use nothing but sword attacks. I guess I could always remove the standard sword wave and keep the critical HP ones. Though I'd remove the +PAINLESS from the standard sword strikes if I did this, that way it causes a flinch every once in awhile.

Though if I did this I'm not sure if I should make sword attacks still use stamina or not

Here's a quick showcase of what projectiles being shoot-downable means.

>>1756947
What mod is this?

>>1756947
What's this from?

>>1756960
>>1756963

>>1756838

>>1756838
Sword wave is the only thing keeping the sword viable when you have a good subweapon.

If you get rid of that then the subweapon becomes the primary method of attack with no exception.

Sword should also hurt more

>>1756960
>>1756963

It's a mod I'm experimenting with while waiting for resources for Metrood.
Mentioned it before in >>1756361 and >>1756286 as well as the last thread.

>>1756968

Nope.

>>1756183
Saiga 12K.

Personally I'd prefer unrealistic weapons.
Like every gun from Metro.

>>1756947

I got sick of his bullshit.

Does ZDoom differ in any significant way from vanilla Doom gameplay if I turn off all crouch/jump/mouselook, aside from fixing bugs and whatnot?

>>1757038
Make the head hurt you as it rolls for the full bRüTaL effect

>>1757053

Aside from fixing bugs? Well, no, I suppose not.
Put on Strict compatibility options, turn off crouch/jump/mouselook, and you'll have a relatively vanilla experience.

Some people say a lot of the vanilla experience derives from those bugs, but I say bugs are bugs, so if you don't want to play with the bugs then yes, it'll be suitable for your purposes.

>>1757053

Technically, if you play on Doom (Strict) compatibility, it's as close as vanilla as you may get.

You may land better BFG shots, however, because of a BLOCKMAP fix that ZDoom has compared to vanilla ports

>>1755797
the monsters have been used for 20 years, there's no way in hell somebody's gonna get spooked. if you wanted to make a good, scary survival horror game, you'd have to forsake many of the elements that make doom, well, doom. in that case, you'd be better off using a different engine entirely. unless you like working with the doom engine.

i'm not saying that it can't be done using id tech 1, only that doom doesn't lend itself very well towards it. there's only so many times you can see the same enemy before you stop being scared of it, plus the weapons and movement speed in doom make you feel badass instead of vulnerable. jump scares are fucking stupid -- fear is about atmosphere and dreadful anticipation, limited information, feeling far outside of your comfort zone, not BOO! MONSTER CLOSET TIME. making a horror-themed mod isn't a problem (unloved is a good example of one,) but making a survival horror mod is unfeasible. you are more than welcome to prove me wrong.

>>1756896
Late reply but
>less delay between hitting the zoom key and throwing out a hook
Yep, exactly. You may need to mess with the aftercast delay to prevent if from being too good though, specially in the powered version.
After nerfing the caltrops, obviously.

>>1756971
Maybe we are fighting in completely different styles here, but I -never- use the sword wave for anything bigger than a Zombieman and I am playing in Nightmare. With a shield most of the time too.

>>1757060
maybe if you kick it enough times it explodes

>>1757082
Well what makes the sword useful really is that it has a 100% pain chance when you shoot a wave.

See that Archvile? You can tell it NO at any time you want.
It is definitely not the wave's damage that makes it useful since it takes like three on a zombieman to kill it.

If the sword doesn't shoot the wave then it doesn't really have the damage to keep up with anything above Pinkies.
Since subweapons are pretty self sufficient as long as you don't miss then that would just make the sword only as a battery.

Since it's really not going to keep up with the damage in most subweapons. Like the dagger item crash? Annihilates Archviles in a single barrage. Kills Cyberdemons in three or so.

Sword is pretty weak and the 100% pain chance is what keeps it with a purpose outside of meter gain.

>>1757095
You missed the entire point.
See that Arch-vile? Hook it.
It is has a 100% flinch chance and lasts longer, for no stamina cost.

>>1757103
But I wasn't responding to your posts in the first place.

I was telling GMOTA guy that the wave is the only thing keeping the sword in check.

If the hook also replaces the wave then the sword needs a pretty big buff regardless of wave or not.

>>1757095
>>1757103

See that Archvile? YOU CAN CLIMB IT

>>1756750
Lookin' better though!

>>1756878
Not him but I am a web developer and think of map previews on the /vr/doom site.

(an SVG loads faster than a PNG since it's based on mathematically calculated shapes instead of a grid of pixels)

Plus this might be just what I need to get off my ass and work in Python 3.

>>1757113
It doesnt matter who you were responding to.
My point is that the regular wave is already useless because the hook exists and outclasses it, therefore its not keeping the sword in check by any means.

The slash needs some sort of damage boost with or without the wave.

Not sure if this would even be possible, but the normal slash inflicting a stacking debuff that makes that monster take additional damage exclusively to further slashes would be a perfect solution.
This way the number of hits to kill would remain unchanged versus minor enemies, but the sword would become viable for fatter ones.
It also means that Blaz's quietus would start rip and tearing proportionally to gut size.Skeletons have sizeable guts, shutup

>>1757053
1.Punching/chainsaw is a joke in ZDoom and takes no skill
2.No pistol start death
3.BFG behavior is different (stronger) due to a term called BLOCKMAP

There's probably more, but those are the main ones that come to mind.

So I may be getting a new laptop in the near future. However, it'd be Windows 8.1. Are there any compatibility issues with Doom and its Source Ports on Windows 8?

>>1757206
8.1fag here. Nope.

If you have issues it's due to the company supplying your driver.

I have been called on to manage 3 other 8/8.1 systems and every single problem stemmed from either the owner being too closed-minded (baww why did they move x function why do i have to search for it now that's so dumb wahhh) or a third-party thing fucking up.

I'll stop /g/ing but I've been doing ZDoom and GZDoom just fine.