/vr/ - Retro Games

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5uu2TWli-_M

Yoshi Story is a great game to me, one of my favorites for N64. I also like Donkey Kong 64 but not sure how much it goes for. The Gex games are fun (pref deep cover gecko) but are also available on PS. Perfect dark is a good games too. I don't really know much off the top of my head besides the popular stuff, sorry.

>>1742925
Banjo Kazooie and Banjo Tooie are both Excellent.
Star Wars Rogue Squadron, Battle For Naboo and Shadows of the Empire are also all great.
Goldeneye 007 and Perfect Dark are both amazing.
Starfox 64 is also very good.
Jet Force Gemini is a nice 3rd person shooter.
And I'm a big fan of Bomberman 64 and Bomberman 64: The Second Attack, although they're not exactly cheap if I remember correctly.

>>1742925
Mischief Makers
Hybrid Heaven
Diddy Kong Racing
San Francisco Rush & Rush 2
Mystical Ninja Starring Goemon

San Francisco Rush is THE most underrated racing game on there
Conker is a buttload of money but worth it
DK 64 > Banjo
paper Mario is fantastic
super mario 64 is good
Road Rash 64 is a funny/fun game
Wave race is pretty great too

>>1742925

>spyro, crash bandicoot

Mystical Ninja starring Goemon
Goemon's Great Adventure
Banjo Kazooie/Tooie
Mischief Makers

some of the best platformers that come to mind now, but there's many more.

>ff7

There are not many big RPGs on the system, apart from Paper Mario, you've got Ogre Battle 64 (one of the best in the series), and some others but most are japan-only (Super Robot Taisen, Shiren 2, etc).
Then there's Hybrid Heaven which is a weird game that mixes TPS, wrestling and turn-based combat, all with a level up system for each part of your body. It's worth playing if you want an unusual RPG, the battle system is solid.

>tomb raider, metal gear solid, resident evil

Hmmm, if you don't find the controls of Tomb Raider bad, then play both Castlevania titles on the N64, they've got a good mix of action and survival horror inspired by Resident Evil a bit.
Play Jet Force Gemini, a good Rare FPS. Just be sure to set the controls to "Expert".
There's a port of Resident Evil 2 that's actually pretty good and worth checking out even if you already played it on PS1.

I don't think any of those games should be too pricey except maybe for Ogre Battle. I'd also reccommend getting an Everdrive if you can, I think it can run every N64 title flawlessly, and there's some imports that you must definitely play on it, like Sin and Punishment. Of course, you can also mod your console to play japanese games, but some of these games are expensive too. So it depends whether you want to collect or to play

>>1742925
Same boat.

I was drawn to the solid single player titles of the PS1. I don't want to say 'more grown up' but they just really appealed to me at the time, and still do. The N64 by comparison was a kid's toy. Again, this was my own speculation at the time, plus most of my friends opted for the PS1, that probably played a big part.

Please don't think I'm bashing Nintendo, I've got a Wii U and I friggin love it. But as a kid, committing myself to a next gen console was a decision based on what looked the best in adverts, and I was previously raised on Sega.

When I was able to buy any console I wanted I picked one up and got Mario64, Cruisin' USA, Turok, Pokemon Snap, Pokemon Stadium and Goldeneye. This was when I had a PS2 so I didn't play it much anyway but I could see why people would favour it over the others.

As for the best games on the N64, you probably know them all, but they're too damn expensive to buy, and emulation just doesn't give you the satisfaction. So I dunno.

Resident Evil 2

>>1743645
>hating the n64
>not hating the Wii U
>thinking this means you're a fan of Nintendo
ya dun goofed thrice

>>1743696
I tried to make it clear I don't hate Nintendo, I just favoured other stuff when Nintendo was still hot shit.

Anyway, not that it matters but what is your specific criteria for being a Nintendo fan? I would have thought giving them money would be enough.

>>1743701
Nintendo has always marketed towards younger audiences. However, they really set the age bar low with the Wii/Wii U. Those consoles are entirely marketed towards casual gamers and family settings/soccer moms with kids. In the 90's era, there wasn't really a market for casual gamers, because there weren't enough gaming companies to create that kind of variety. If you wanted to game, you had to contend with the fact that Nintendo dominated the industry. Now that has changed. And, many of Nintendo's current titles are simply recycled bits of franchises that peaked in the 90s. So, by my criteria, you can't call yourself a fan of Nintendo if you dislike the n64.

>>1743710
>implying the Wii U was marketed primarily towards casuals

This is the biggest mistake everybody makes all the goddamn time. Yes the Wii was. The Wii U isn't/wasn't. FYI the NES was marketed to casuals too.

>mfw this kind of post is been massively repeated because everyone falls for the bait

For me is fine, at least they stopped with the "I GREW UP WITH A SNES AND TRIED GENESIS A FEW DAYS AGO BUT I COULDN'T STAND, IT'S SO SHITTY" posts. But /vr/ becomes more like /v/ as the days passes.

>>1743710
OP here.

so you're saying since I love the NES, love the SNES even more, love the gamecube, own a wii, don't own a wii u and think nintendo can do a little better with it, 11 different variantions of the gameboy, a 3ds, with well over 100 titles spanning over all those

but don't like the n64, I'm not a nintendo fan?
I don't follow your logic.

>>1743743
see I think the difference between my post and those though is that I'm trying to find games I like on the n64 rather than start a console war thread. I know the n64 is good, that's why I want to find games on it that I'll enjoy. everyone has their opinion on which console I'm a given generation is better but that doesn't mean they both aren't good.

Mischief Makers is an incredible game and I was never sure why it didn't become popular. I guess Treasure is forever cursed with that sort of thing. Highly recommended. Another game you might want to try is Sin & Punishment although to play that one in English you'll need to get it on VC. It's a cinematic rail shooter. In some ways reminiscent of Evangelion

>>1743750
Hardly. But people who can't appreciate the n64 probably won't appreciate its precedents.

>>1743757
what the fuck are you talking about he just said he liked nes and snes better

go be pretentious somewhere else

>>1743739
>Yes the Wii was. The Wii U
I exaggerated slightly by comparing the Wii to the Wii U, but watch the official trailer and tell me it doesn't look like it's marketed to casuals.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4e3qaPg_keg&feature=kp
Anyway, the main reason I don't like the Wii U, is that it can't decide quite what it wants to be. Is it a personal gaming machine, a family console, or maybe a multimedia device? Who's supposed to own it and what is it supposed to do?

>>1743760
>implying he wasn't creating a hypothetical
>implying his possibly non-hypothetical wouldn't be the exception to the rule.
lern2readingcomprehension moron

>>1743761
>watch the official trailer and tell me it doesn't look like it's marketed to casuals.
Eh every console has a presentation that looks like it's marketed towards normalfags (360 had a particularly infamous MTV one). If you look at what Nintendo were actually doing with the console it was a goddamn Frankenstein that didn't know who it was for.
> Is it a personal gaming machine, a family console, or maybe a multimedia device? Who's supposed to own it and what is it supposed to do?
Yes exactly this. It started out a little casualish with Nintendoland (although it uses Nintendo characters that a lot of casuals would never have heard of?) which flopped hard, and from then on it's really niche games like Wonderful 101 and Bayonetta 2, Wind Waker HD where the original game sold pretty badly, Pikmin 3 which is another sequel to a poorly selling Gamecube game. The Wii U is literally the Gamecube redux.

if you want side-scrollers, play kirby64, yoshi's story, and mischief makers

if you want 3d platforming go with banjo kazooie/tooie, dk64 if you're down with collectathons. otherwise bomberman hero or rayman are solid choices if youre more into linear platforming

then there are a few other obligatory games such as mario kart 64 and super smash brothers

also keep in mind the n64 didn't have as many good games as the ps1, but had an excellent small library of games

>>1743762
no that wasn't a hypothetical that's actually how much nintendo stuff I own, I don't know how in the world you mistook that for a hypothetical but whatever. you're getting really off topic.

>>1743803
>you're getting really off topic
>talking about the implications of disliking the n64 in a thread about not "getting into the n64."
Yeah ... Anyway though let me get this straight. Despite the fact that you own all of that Nintendo stuff, you dislike the n64, which is generally considered god-tier as far as consoles go? And you ask why I mistook that for a hypothetical? I mean I figured you just weren't into older Nintendo consoles.

Or do you think it's the norm for people to like the NES/SNES and dislike the n64? That would just be wrong.

The thing that sets the n64 apart for me, besides the excellent games/stories, is the games' use of color. Newer games (and even to some extent older games) use dark gradients and blended tones across smooth surfaces. For me that doesn't make them grittier, it just makes them more depressing. The n64 games aren't just fun to beat; they're fun to view. So check out Banjo Kazooie/Goldeneye/Perfect Dark.

>>1743648
What is the advantage of playing Resident Evil 2 on the N64 instead of the PS1?

>>1742925
The best port of the game which unlike the PC original and the PS1 version, you can disable the stupid heart adrenaline bar

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F_59HHJI6TM

>>1743841

More defined graphics, no loading times, item randomizer and 3D controls (instead of tank controls, but you can still play using tank controls if you want), better audio (believe it or not, N64's version is the only version of RE2 with dolby surround audio).

It's worth playing if you like RE2, still the best version is probably the Dreamcast version, but again, N64 has some unique stuff that the other versions don't, so it's worth checking out if you like the game.

Ocarina of Time and Majoras Mask are the big "system sellers" as it were. To be honest I didn't like them at all as a kid and while I appreciate them slightly more today, I still don't find them to be fun to play. But they're worth a try to see if you like them.

My favorite exclusives are B&K, Donkey Kong 64 (gets a lot of unfair flack for being what it is), Mischief Makers, Smash Bros, Star Fox 64, Sin & Punishment, Pokemon Snap, and Custom Robo.

Based on your post you might like Perfect Dark, Golden Eye, and possibly Rayman 2 (superior to PS1 version, sill inferior to DC version).

Some games I remember enjoying as a kid that probably don't hold up so well today:
>Buck Bumble
>Glover
>Mario Tennis
>Mario Party 3
>Pokemon Stadium

>>1742925

N64 is a party machine

>>1743924
Mario Tennis is still pretty fun (especially as a drinking game). Pokemon Stadium (and 2) can be fun too as long as you're playing multiplayer. OP, make sure you check out the mini-games on there if you end up doing that.

>>1743935
Pretty much this. The N64 and GameCube have probably the best local multiplayer out there.

>>1742925
Banjo Kazooie and Tooie are each pretty great. While a lot of it relies on hoarding music notes and puzzle pieces, a good deal of the gameplay has some nice kings quest style puzzles too them (Moreso in tooie, because the worlds are more interconnected.)

While people complain about the collection heavy stuff in RARE games, Banjo Kazooie puts a LOT of thought into where all the items are placed and does make it a lot of fun.

I saw a friend play this before I got an N64 and thought that I'd seen all there was to see from it, so I didn't try it for myself until 2005 or so.

OH MY GOD THIS GAME!

Every other line iconic, there's a surprising amount of variety for an arcade game, the controls are unique but easy to pick up. This is last N64 game I really obsessed over.

>>1746089
Of all the posts to forget my picture for.

>>1743924
Holy shit I am glad somebody remembers Glover. They cancelled the goddamn sequel though, shame

Here's a complete list of all N64 games I believe: http://finngamer.webs.com/nintendo64info.htm

Some japanese exclusives are really good. I specifically recommend Wonder Project j2, Sin and Punishment, and Fushigi no Dungeon. The N64 does have more games than most people think if you're willing to dig a little. Of course, the PS1 has more (and is the better system overall), but the N64 is underrated.

>>1746091

Yeah, StarFox 64 is definitely one of the best games on the system, and IMO one of the best games Nintendo ever did.

If you want something similar, try out Sin and Punishment, and Panzer Dragoon 1 & 2 on Sega Saturn.

I'm glad most of the good games are mentioned here, Yoshi's Story was my first game when I chose the 64 over a ps1 at the age of 5 and along with Pokémon Snap, Conkers Bad Fur Day, Banjo Kazooie & Tooie, 007 Goldeneye, Lylat Wars/ Starfox 64, Mystical Ninja Goemon, Super Smash Bros, Kirby 64, F-zero X, Mischief Makers, Diddy Kong Racing plus a couple more less known games like Space Station Silicon Valley, which is made by the pre-Rockstar team DMA before GTA came out, its weird and quite hard to 100% but its fun and interesting once you get the hang of it

If you're looking for some N64 RPGs, I def suggest you check out Ogre Battle 64 and Aidyn Chronicles. Really fine games. Okay, yeah, AC is a bit unrefined and rough on the eyes but it's a solid WRPG.

>>1743935
Or better said its a casual machine. PS1 also had very nice multiplayer games like Quake 2, for example, but N64 was just were Nintendo started to went full casual style.

>>1746939
>Quake 2

Quake II was also on N64 and it was a better port than the PS1 version.

Stoo spouting nonsense, you don't even know what the shit you're talking about kid, go back to /v/

>>1746632
Second for Silicon Valley. It's got this really nice offbeat atmosphere to it.

>>1747323
I don't agree with that other guy's points, but actually the N64 version of Quake 2 feels like a bit of a rush job, while the PS1 version seems more lovingly crafted. Always felt the PS1 version was better because of that.

>>1747341

Actually, the N64 version of Quake II is an all-new game, different than the original PC version, it has all new levels. And 4-players multiplayer split-screen. That alone makes it better than the PS1 port, apart from graphics.
Otherwise, just play the PC version, no reason to play the PS1 port.

>>1747352
N64 version of Duke Nukem has also a great feature: coop campain. Very funny

>>1742925
>feels like the PS is much more superior.

because it is. by virtue of it's library alone.

Don't be afraid to try these outliers out-

Aero Gauge
Forsaken
Winback
Duke Nukem: Zero Hour
Blast Corps
Pilot Wings
Chopper Attack (is as fun as it is ugly)

>>1747352
I thought the PS1 version was also different than the PC version. The problem with the N64 version is that the graphics are quite inconsistent. The animation is unusually terrible, even though it shouldn't be.

I feel the same way, I grew up on PS and all my friends were on Nintendo so I finally got a few older Nintendo consoles and I still think PS is better.

Custom Robo
Custom Robo v2
Wonder Project j2
Sin and Punishment

>>1743596
>DK 64 > Banjo
i hope your dick falls off

It's probably rare as fuck but I tried Dezaemon 3D and found it pretty fun. It's a 3D shmup with a level editor. Have you thought about getting a flashcart OP? It's expensive but hey, all those n64 games aren't cheap either. Also I think it can run 64DD games like Doshin the Giant and F-Zero X's level editor.

>>1742925
The only reason to play n64 is because of all the four player multiplayer games or one of a handful of exclusive single player games that aren't awful

otherwise it's a trash console, I'd probably even rate the fucking saturn over this thing

>>1747701
Okay, I'll be fair, there are a few multiplat games that are better on n64, but none of them are amazing games so who cares

>>1747701
That is not even a fair fight, the Saturn had games and a library par with the PS1. Maybe not on the US where the marketing blew. But in Japan it got as many good games as most good consoles do

>>1747715
>the Saturn had games and a library par with the PS1
I call pretty major shenanigans, seeing as how

- almost every saturn port of a game that was also on the ps1 sucked (SOTN, for example)
- ps1 had counties besides japan making games for it
- ps1 was cheaper and had a company that had it's shit together, instead of sega when sega was being the dumbest they have ever been as a company

I'm looking into getting an RGB N64 but they're a bit pricey.

Is the difference between s video and RGB worth the money? S video on my Trinitron looks ok, but I think it's just the N64 in general looks like ass however you play it outside of emulation.

Like In Banjo Tooie, every now and again I will get a glimpse of what the game would be like playing at 60fps (or close to it) but that's limited to small rooms. Also maybe I'm crazy, but the textures look a lot better in smaller rooms.

>>1747715
>a library par with the PS1
Lol, I never tire of you saturndrones

>>1747407
>Winback
Any reason to play the N64 version over the PS2 one?

>>1742925
Theres a handful of "good" N64 games where there are literally dozens if not hundreds of good PS1 games. Most of N64 benefit would be playing with friends as well, so you should probably keep that in mind when choosing N64 over PS1.

Definitive versions on N64 I would say..

Multiplayer:

>Gauntlet Legends
>Mario Party (1-3)
>Smash Brothers
>Bomberman 64 (has a well developed singleplayer)
>Tony Hawk Proskater (Probably better on PS1 but I remember playing it mostly on N64)
>Golden Eye 007
>Perfect Dark
>Chameleon twist (Pretty sure this was co-op or competitive)
>Pilot Wings
>Starfox 64 (vs. was a shitload of fun, otherwise its a pretty railshooter)
>Goemon (I can't get into it, but apparently its awesome)

Single Player

>Blast Corps
>Mario 64
>Legend of Zelda: Ocarina of Time
>Legend of Zelda: Majora's Mask
>Kirby 64
>Paper Mario
>Banjo Kazooie
>Banjo Tooie
>Donkey Kong 64
>Jet Force Gemini
>Mischief Makers
>Body Harvest
>Castlevania 64

I mean... this is really stretching and racking my mind off the top of my head the "good" games, I'm trying to avoid multi-plats too like RE2 and Megaman Legends/64.

>>1748126
Dude there's a handful of good ps1 games if you remove your nostalgia goggles

>>1748126
>dozens if not hundreds of good PS1 games
Gonna disagree with you there.
The PlayStation had some good games, but it and the N64 were in the same boat.

>>1748339
I can name 2 dozen good RPG's on PS1 alone.

Much less action, puzzle, and fighting games.

>>1748343
No. You can name 2 dozen RPG's on PS1 alone.

>>1748353
Final Fantasy VII
Final Fantasy VIII
Final Fantasy IX
Final Fantasy Anthology
Final Fantasy Chronicles
Final Fantasy Origins
Xenogears
Lunar Silver Star Story Complete
Lunar 2: Eternal Blue Complete
Suikoden
Suikoden II
Vagrant Story
Grandia
Chrono Cross
Tales of Destiny
Tales of Eternia
Legend of Mana
Dragon Warrior VII
Breath of Fire III
Breath of Fire IV
Valkyrie Profile
Front Mission 3
Wild Arms
Wild Arms 2

Fuck you, sucker.

>>1748385
I don't personally like a lot of those games.
Your whole argument is an opinion, and one that I don't share.

>>1748385
>>1748353
Thats not even including the plethora of strategy RPG's...

>Final Fantasy Tactics
>Tactics Ogre
>Ogre Battle
I guess Front Mission 3 is on there but.
>Vandal Hearts
>Vandal Hearts 2
>Vanguard Bandits
>Eternal Eyes
>Brigandine: Legend of Forensa
>Kartia
>Saiyuki: Journey West
>Hoshigami
I know I'm missing a few..

Pseudo SRPG/JRPG
>Rhapsody: A musical adventure
>Koudelka

Then theres even more JRPG like Persona and shit on ps1.

PS1 library pretty much shits on every library except the PS2's library

The whole charm of the N64 lies in its party games. It's the perfect console for a casual gaming evening with some buddies while drinking beer. Its singleplayer library pretty much consists of only a handful of good games though.

Good to see Sony hasn't changed.
Still a ton of lackluster JRPGs.

>>1748395
>It doesn't count because I don't like them

I feel sorry for you, since you have terrible taste. I don't expect everyone to like them all, but most people would like a good majority of what's on that list, and/or on other anon's list: >>1748407

>>1748126
>Theres a handful of "good" N64 games
>>1748419
>>It doesn't count because I don't like them

Yeah. That's about right.

>>1748416

The only console which is more or less on the same level in terms of quality JRPGs is the SNES.

>>1748416
Should we compile a list of other games that are really good on PS1? I'll agree that a fair number (~6 of 14) of the games on the list are ports of SNES and Saturn games but there are a large number of games from other genres that hold the PS1 library above the N64

>>1748429
I think both of you should shut up and discuss N64 games, considering the topic.

Make a new thread if you want to argue about PSX games.

>>1748420
Those are games literally off the top of my head. Conversely the same is said about my Strategy JRPG list, but I could've named most of the other JRPG's the other anon posted.

Since no one is posting N64 titles anymore its kind of hard to discuss that the N64 library is full of good games.

>>1742925
Battletanx (only the first one though)
Star Fox 64
i know you said you aren't big into racing but F-Zero is real good
Megaman Legends is on PS1 as well, but i played and enjoyed it on n64
Banjo Kazooie (i didnt like tooie very much)
i liked Yoshi's Story even though its on the child side of games
Super Smash Bros
Jet Force Gemini is pretty good except for that goddamn final objective

>>1748126
>castlevania 64

cmon son, cmon.

>>1748431
>Make a new thread if you want to argue about PSX games.

done >>1749517

>>1742925
OP just buy an Everdrive 64, you can play any ROM with it. its like $100 but totally worth it.

>>1748096
nah, i just forgot about the later release.

>>1747715
>Saturn library on par with PS1.

No. No it isn't.

>>1749598
it is if you're not a little squaresoft faget

>>1749598
The Japanese library is great. A shame that many of the best games didn't come to the US, such as the superior original release of Grandia or the other 2 parts of Shining Force.

>>1743838
N64 was not god tier, it just had a great lineup of games. PS1 was miles ahead in terms of a better system

>>1749565
Not if you're a purist like most vr fags

>>1743743
And there is always that one faggot saying the board is becoming like /v/ who either:

A.) doesn't regularly go on /v/ so can't really make said comparison or...

b.) is able to make the comparison because they go on /v/ and perpetuate the behavior they claim to hate.

So shut the fuck up about "muh /vr/" and if you don't like a thread, don't fucking post. Make your own. Entity its

>>1749703
That was also not directed at your post, tone although makes it seem like it was. I was agreeing.

All these Rpgs you guys mentioned only went to Playstation due to larger disk sizes and cheaper manufacturing costs, also Nintendo president at the time said some stupid stuff to Squaresoft which sent them packing in a hissy fit and leaving Nintendo without any titles from them till FF Tactics Advance, Although there aren't very many RPG's on the N64 there are still quality games from 1st and 2nd party with a couple decent 3rd party games, but far fewer since 3rd parties struggled with costs of publishing on 64.
Also remember that the expansion pack is needed to fully take advantage of the later games like Perfect Dark, Banjo Tooie, DK64, Conkers Bad Fur Day and a few more which shows the inconsistencies in gameplay

>>1743607

> Ogre Battle and Sin & Punishment.

MAH-BOI!

Also, saw it briefly mentioned once or twice, but Body Harvest was a great , unique game (also from DMA).

Did anyone ever play Wetrix? I only briefly rented it, but it was an interesting puzzle game where your random falling pieces affected the shape of terrain and you had to make the playing field hold as much water as possible as it rained, occassionally getting pieces that would destroy terrain necessitating quick repair.

>>1749520

Why is Castlevania 64 hated so much? While I agree the controls could have been tighter, it had some great atmosphere and cool level designs. It also felt more like a Castlevania game than this new reboot we got (which I enjoy, but you know what I mean).

The only criticisms I ever see for Castlevania 64 seem to be "3DPD" and "motorcycle skeletons are dumm."

Get real, skeletons on motorcycles are as cool as it gets.

>>1749772
Probably because clumpsy 3D interface and controlls.

At the same time SOTN, on the other hand, took the castle to a new level and that's why people remember it fondly. The graphics also aged a lot better.

Super Mario 64 (Must Have)
Starfox 64
Banjo Kazooie
Conker's Bad Fur Day

Should I bother with the N64 version of Lego Racers?

Flying Dragon and Mischief Makers

>>1750295

Yes

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O_VGF96LXO4

1080 snowboarding

>>1752063

And Snowboard Kids