/vr/ - Retro Games

>>1733831
didnt know about it
seems really gay and nerdy

>>1733831
Its gay and dumb, but so is every hobby to an outsider. /vr/ is probably gay and dumb to most folks.

>>1733838
Good point. I didn't think of it like that. I guess I shouldn't need confirmation from other people for things I enjoy.

I like the idea of chiptunes, and I like old video game music, but I haven't found many original artists who manage to hold my attention for long. YMCK and Trash80, that's about it offhand. I've seen a couple great live sets from people using LSDJ or the like, but everything is better live.

Chiptunes before hipsters discovered them: Jazzy, funky, elaborate, complex, experimental, avant garde and all around interesting to listen to

Chiptunes after hipsters discovered them: Generic club-music techno adapted to "chip-ish" instrumentation, showing no hint of knowledge of music theory whatsoever

>>1733851
Acidjazzed Evening - Janne Suni
http://youtu.be/amXNbaRtLpQ

>>1733851
Wow, the irony of this post.

(This thing I liked was waaaaay cooler before a large number of non-descript imaginary people discovered it, at which point it became incredibly bad.)

If it's genuine chiptune, ie. original hardware with no effects or mastering, then it's good. Otherwise it's shit.

>>1733867
I feel the same way. I like authenticity. None of that pitch-bending, half-clock nonsense. What about pro-sound mods, though?

the live scene is pretentious and shitty
tracker music can be pretty good though
I used to like Henry home sweet and star scream, but would rather listen to Amiga era mod files

>>1733861
>using the word irony

Did I hurt your feelings, hipster?

Moot is in this one.
Anamaguchi - MEOW
http://youtu.be/vc3JWo2iiGc

>>1733910

>>1733851
This Anon gets it. The new Chiptunes are way too high pitched for me. And sometimes the notes are played fast, without any reason, and it turns into a huge sound mess.

>>1733880
Starscream - Future, And It Doesn't Work (Full Album)
http://youtu.be/xt3JXyT6Mp8

>>1733851
You are the hipster.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IlqSIxqhJx0

Slam with the best or jam like the rest.

>>1733957
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lWKQiZVBtu4

It's obligatory. I'm sorry.

>>1733942
We're all hipsters.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P3weReQzsVs

>>1733957

reminds me of https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wi-NxM1EaXM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zlUFYMRNkPw

>>1733910
What's wrong with using the word irony?

Honestly? This belongs in /mu/ instead of here.

It uses the equipment (not all the time), but other than that it doesn't fit in with the sticky all that much.

I don't know much about Chiptunes but man Slime Girls is my shit.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SvfeL9vbfd4

FYI Groupees has another one of their Chiptune bundles going on. They're normally worth checking out.

>>1734097
I just plain enjoy the music, but I agree. The thing around it is pretty much the same as why indie games aren't allowed: they're not retro, they're faux retro.

That said, a Chiptune General in /mu/ would be ballin'.

Some good chiptunes radio stations:

Digitally Imported
Kohina
ModFM
Arecibo Radio
The SID Station
Nectarine Radio

anyone know of more?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oGXC7vfWfyE

I'm a chip musician.

https://soundcloud.com/imaginary-chipmusic

>>1733860
nice groove

>>1734883

This is the only man that seems to know what good chiptune is.

Check this, around 5:15 is the best part, but all is good.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q8AxdPe00vM

>>1734836
rainwave.cc has a bunch of game music

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aHhYbVVDuoA

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9M2zQjRF1vE

>>1733910
He used the word irony properly though.

You are being a hipster by complaining about hipsters.

>>1733831
I like it somewhat, but most of them just make bad ripoffs of cheesy genres like happy hardcore. Not many of the artists seem very musically sophisticated. And why do 99% of them just use gameboys/NES chips? Get some fucking SID emulation happening at the very least for gods sake.
But on the other end of the spectrum there's multi-instrumentalists like Disasterpeace who are mind meltingly superb.

>>1733851
>Chiptunes after hipsters discovered them: Generic club-music techno adapted to "chip-ish" instrumentation, showing no hint of knowledge of music theory whatsoever
Yeah that shits me

>>1735127
way better than all the trash posted in this thread. I have that album bumpin in my cars cd player right now

I love chiptunes

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GL0M4HtLl40&feature=kp

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6VEdPCvcOcc

>>1735127
YMO isn't really chiptune though.

>>1733851
>Chiptunes before hipsters discovered them: Jazzy, funky, elaborate, complex, experimental, avant garde and all around interesting to listen to
Not really.

No talented and educated musician would bother with this crap. It's for people who can't be bothered to produce real music.

I like chiptune when the artist has an idea of melodies and harmonies, random beeps don't satiate me. I want to start making this but kind of put my own spin on it i.e. have the chiptune as an accent for an irl instrument section.

>>1736228
>real music

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TwG5y-zxXwo

This concept album might change your mind about chiptune.

>>1736594
It all starts sounding the same after a while.

>>1736602
Yeah, the medium has limitations, but virt's done some original things. I think I like VX3 better even though it's less authentic, because it's so fucking metal.

http://virt.bandcamp.com/album/fx4

It is fun to read the description of each track as you listen.

>>1736605
I meant FX3 (his previous album), man, I need to wake up.

Since we're on the topic of hipsters and chiptunes...

http://www.kittenrock.co.uk/

These guys claim to only release the most technically impressive and atmospheric stuff, but I'm not really convinced. They like to to bash the "mainstream chip culture" a lot, though.

I like retrowave or whatever the hell you call that genre of music (lazerhawk, mitch murder, etc). But chiptunes are little more than a curiosity to me.

I'm a deadbeatblast fan.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SgHlgACHZwk

>>1733831
>>1733851
I have nothing but respect for chiptune artists but I personally don't like the music much at all. Retro vidya is probably number 3 hobby after bicycling and DJing (if anyone's curious — Gabber, Uplifting Trance and Makina) so I like it when threads like this pop up here.

Before, I don't know exactly, about ~2010-2012 when electronic music and retro games coincidentally began to explode at the same time a lot of people were inspired by the likes of Renard (some of his aliases to be specific) and Anamanaguchi to make chiptune. I haven't interacted with the chiptune scene /extensively/ but from what I have seen there's a lot of sugoku-kawaii-desu assholes (read as: excessive use of 'cute' :3 xD :D ^_^ emoticons who also get extremely defensive if you critique anything they like, also often in the same circle as SJWs) in the scene at the moment.

There really are some amazing musicians in chiptune but for me it's so outweighed by the shit and shitty attitudes there's just no appeal, personally.

Don't get me started on the current state of the house music scene though. Now that's just plain abhorrent.

>>1739784
>Don't get me started on the current state of the house music scene though. Now that's just plain abhorrent.
Thank god for Max Graef, Leon Vynehall and Floating Points though eh.

Not a fan of Chibitech's work, especially his titling methods, but this is mighty impressive. He managed to squeeze a few guitar strum samples in and uses it to lead the music. I wonder though if such a thing would be feasible in a real NES game.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tcoKY9G-4ss

Another favorite of mine is Extends Levant by HertzDevil. It dropped down my favorites a little thanks to the aforementioned song.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9gmVGsQbDl8

Another cool one, although it uses VRC7 and Namco 163 as well as 2A03, is this rendition of Scaborough fair.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TLF9V6Jyy20

NES chiptunes are very rare, especially 2A03 only songs.

>>1740859
>Chibi-tech
>he

>>1735863
Really good shit man.

>>1735127
>>1736221
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J6ee5KzI9NA

To me, it's a novelty. It is fun on occasion, but I wouldn't listen to it on a regular basis.

I can understand the appeal of the challenge of making music with a limited piece of hardware. Stripping music to its bare essence takes a lot of work to get right. Pushing old hardware to its limits can be fun too.

>>1741694
w-what

>>1736221
>>1742062
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iuBV_CDQb-M

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZZmcEdAElYY

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qjRhxYF4X9g

Chiptunes are an okay form of music.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uS3GteF8Ad8

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ATOoJVuuTAU

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SHwLNqRtokQ

>>1736602
>>1736605
That's not the fault of limitations, that's the fault of virt being a talentless fucking hack.

>>1733913
Where?

>>1744531

nagz pls go

Im not a fan.

In fact I think people who are fans of it and 8bits are idiots who miss the point of what made games we grew up with good in the first places.

It's a sad refusal to let go of the past and it needs to stop.

Games and their music where good DESPITE the technology not BECAUSE of them

>>1744748
>Games and their music where good DESPITE the technology not BECAUSE of them

I dont know about gameplay, but programming quality was better back when limitations of computer specifications were much more strict.

These days you have games that require 4GB of RAM and run like shit even on $3,000 video cards because HEY WHO NEEDS TO OPTIMIZE WHEN COMPUTERS ARE 4GHZ NOW XD XD

>>1744759

that's because they forced you to be creative. I forgot who said it but I read some writer say (paraphrasing) "unlimited freedom is the last thing an artist should ever have"

>>1744748
Some of the chiptunes I like (linked here)>>1740859, I like them because of how they are actually rendered with FamiTracker. While it is far from an efficient method of making music for the NES (NES games usually had 32KB for an entire soundtrack, the average FT composition is several hundred KBs), the music can still run on Nintendo hardware. The first two songs are even more impressive because they use the stock 2A03, and don't delve into VRC6 wankery like most others. The final song is a song that uses VRC7 and Namco 163 at an attempt of synthesizing speech.

>>1744763
The expression goes "Limitation breeds creativity".

cause I love you guys

here's some 1-bit buzzer music

MISTER BEEP

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bBpdvYkGtzs

>>1744748
>Games and their music where good DESPITE the technology not BECAUSE of them

I strongly disagree. I love the sounds produced by the sound chips from the NES, Genesis, and SNES. There's a distinct timbre to each of these sound chips that cannot be produced by any other instrument. Therefore, whether you prefer, for example, the timbre of the Genesis sound chip to the timbre of a clarinet is completely up to the personal preference of the listener. And I do believe that these sound chips can be used in conjunction with "real" instruments to produce something special.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XkjKlhNtGQQ

>>1734575
Mah nig. Goto80 is the shit.

>>1745482
Whoa, what I was expecting and what I got are really different. This shit is fucking dope.