/vr/ - Retro Games

Source
http://sgt-shivers.tumblr.com/post/90326753300/midway-more-like-idway

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NEWS
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-Doom 4 Trailer here. It's damn true. http://youtu.be/0C4F1h-HSXU.. Further details will be shown at Quakecon.

-Don't forget to (re)watch this year's Summer Games Done Quick, as it featured Doom 64 and an Ultimate Doom race! Ask in the thread for links! The past AGDQ featured Plutonia (Go 2 It included) and a Doom 2 race. To rewatch said games, see this link http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLQcxg3SUqlYBoSYrpNJVu58GsoCXMREa1..

-Doom 2: In Name Only represents everyone's wishes of playing the Doom 2 maps in a more literal way. It just got an /idgames link now! Check the thread here. http://www.doomworld.com/vb/post/1124737

-Metroid Dreadnought IS OUT! GO GET DEM TUUUBES - http://zandronum.com/forum/showthread.php?tid=4561&pid=61847#pid61847

-Also The Space Pirate got an update! Check the latest ver. here! https://drive.google.com/file/d/0BxbbtKR5bll_anFPaVhUQVZqcnM/edit?usp=sharing And be sure to check this tutorial http://youtu.be/mrFF8LCZw5Y

-Some anons are doing a 200 min. speedmapping challenge; vanilla compatible (Doom 2 format), no custom textures and MUST be done in 200 mins and have an exit; ask in the thread f/details!

-Wanna see John Romero deathmatching in 2014? This happened at GDC http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLXkipPv0b4KMKE7z3WwlYYUCDLACNoYfE..

-HDoom has its 5th techdemo! happy now? http://www.best-ever.org/download?file=m12-hdoom-techdemo5.pk3

Mods that also got updated (these links include their respective download links for each mod, by the way)

Hideous Destructor - http://forum.zdoom.org/viewtopic.php?t=12973
Pirate Doom - http://forum.zdoom.org/viewtopic.php?t=32674
DoomRL Arsenal - http://forum.zdoom.org/viewtopic.php?t=37044
Doom The Golden Souls - http://forum.zdoom.org/viewtopic.php?p=661646

ATTENTION! If you know about something news-worthy PLEASE reply to this so everyone can see it

I hate to be that guy, but don't you think it's time to start posting this thread on /vg/?

Reminds me of the quake arcade game. How cool would it be to have an arcade sourceport that keeps track of score, lives, and quarters? I'd put reelism in that.

I have a confession.

I have grown to hate the default doom setting.

>>1732127
We gonna die if we go on /vg/, also mootykins said it was cool if we stayed here.
Just filter one of the pastebins or the steam group, then the threads won't show up for you.

http://temp-host.com/download.php?file=yg58mj

200 minutes of /vr/ release candidate. can i say release candidate yet or is it too soon?

packaging:

- renamed the wad to "200 minutes of /vr/" (200minvr.wad)
- text file written. please proofread :)
- all maps have at least 4 co-op starts (not tested)
- endoom screen generated from titlepic
- 3 demos for title screen loop added

map fixes:

- fixed as many unpegged doortracks as i could find. maps affected: 2,7,8,9,10,20,21,23,24,25,28,32,33
- overhalls (11): fix missing texture that appears on opening cacodemon closets by exit
- dead cargo (18): fixed missing texture by blue key, made sure you can't get said key without triggering trap
- demon hq (21): stop the fence bleeding into the floor at the start. fix missing texture and scrolling wall around exit.
- 200 mins of hell (26): fix pegging, realign texture on soulsphere secret lift
- 200 mins of going down (28): reverted cacodemon placement changes by request
- carousel (30): add extra triggers around firing platforms to fix exploit where you could get into position without triggering the barriers
- anachronism (33): enlarge archvile throne so the monster isn't stuck and can attack. unstick some monsters in final room.

known issues (that obviously i don't consider release-blockers):

- texture misalignments, i'm sorry but there are just far too many to bother with. no-one expects speedmaps to be perfect anyway :)
- visual glitches in vanilla (drawsegs overflow on two maps, various tutti-fruitti; but no known crashes)
- not all music is replaced and not all replacements are credited, but it can't be helped, i don't care about in-game music at all, sorry
- only one map has deathmatch starts, but hardly any of these maps would play well in DM anyway so...

>>1732127
Even at our fastest, we'd drown on /vg/, and at our fastest we cut through one or two threads a day.

We don't wanna die :(

welp

I tried repacking jdui-all-20120223.pk3 from Doomsday Addons for gzdoom but it doesn't come out 100%. Oh well.

Am I right in saying you cannot turn off texture filtering in Doomsday?

Holy FUCK is Thy Flesh Consumed supposed to be such a massive kick in the dick difficulty-wise? I went through every other episode dying maybe twice in each and I'm doing my tenth try of the first goddamn level.

>>1732159
>Holy FUCK is Thy Flesh Consumed supposed to be such a massive kick in the dick difficulty-wise?
Basically, yeah. It's the "eat shit" episode.

>>1732139
Did you fix the texture problem in Map07 from a thread or two ago?

>>1732127
We can't talk about the good ol days when FPS didn't suck?

>>1732139
How do you get to 33 exactly?

>>1732160
Keep in mind that TFC was created AFTER Doom 2, so

>>1732168
idclev33 should work in most ports.

aggravatingly cramped (map29) in 1:24

>>1732127
I think we all appreciate you being more civil than the average, "Take it to /vg/ guy" but the answer is the same, /vg/ threads receive a bump multiple times a minute, we simply do not have the bump rate to maintain a thread on that board. As other users have said, we'd be drowned.
Also /vr/ has a typically cooler crowd, and I don't think most of us want retards to start popping into these threads, we try to keep them drama free for the most part. We have some great janitors here that seem to also be very committed to doing so. If we introduce these threads to a board with a higher number of users then we also might get those users being (and I hate to use this word) cancerous.
I think that we try to keep these threads as unobtrusive as possible, and I think that there really isn't a problem as long as folks use the catalog and/or filter words that pop up in every OP
Thanks again for not being a dick about it like some people who come in here man

>>1732168
You have to idclev to it; it's not part of the mapset because it wasn't done in under 200 minutes or something

>>1732128
Man, I've been kicking around an idea for an "arcade experience" gameplay mod for a while now, but I just don't even know the first thing about coding. I want to include a time limit that increases when you find secrets or maybe by very small increments when you kill stuff, a persistent high score board, limited lives like Wolf3D, and an "insert coin" button that would need to be pressed to give you a credit, which would reset your score if used to continue.

I've tried copying scripts out of other .wads that had those features, but I just can't make it work because I don't know shit about coding.

>>1732164
yes. that was embarrassing.
http://archive.foolz.us/vr/thread/1721339/#1724770

>>1732172
>>1732179
yes, or -warp, or the console

it started as a 200 minute map but kept on growing. it was decided to throw it in anyway.

>>1732128
>>1732195
Oh! And I don't know if anyone here has tried it, but Doom actually translates really well to a basic arcade panel with a stick and 8 buttons. It's more fun than you might think.

Last call (well, not really).

Link some pretty good songs that *you* think they might fit in Doom, be it straight up thrash metal, or doom/gothic metal, or even some dance music, I dunno; and I'll try my best at finding a MIDI version of them

I'm all ears (literally)

>>1732134
>>1732145
>>1732167
>>1732178
Me again. This is why I love this board. Everyone is always civil, stating their arguments and discussing things calmly.

You guys are right, you'd get drowned on /vg/. My apologies.

>>1732218
No worries man, I don't think any of us mind people asking it. It's just the way some people go about it.

>>1732128
What would an Arcade version of doom even be like? More weapons? More powerups? Larger enemy variety? 2-Player Co-op? More bosses?

>>1732215
Not in that manner, definitely. It looks really friggin' awkward, like God Hand but worse.

>>1732217
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aqiMivk8r7I I doubt there's a midi of this, but it shouldn't be too tough to make because it's pretty much just one bassline repeated over and over again with some drums.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4iaj2w7Bp58

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=puLDuV3azbA proper artist name is "Ritualz" if that helps

>>1732195
>time limit
I'd suggest doing what Gauntlet does: Health slowly degrades over time, so players have to either credit feed or keep moving forwards. You could easily use ACS to make killing/finding secrets give health.

>>1732234
Speedrun-based (uv-max, nightmare, etc) with scoreboards and level select.

>>1732217
Holy shit, this exists.

http://en.midimelody.ru/midi.php?str=%2Fm%2FMayhem%2FMayhem%20-%20Freezing%20Moon%20%283%29.mid

>>1732217
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-ZuEigUCymA

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6slcsigzilI

Rip in Peace, Oderus

>>1732217
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YYY5WgEMT-I
I think I'd fit amazingly at the end map of an episode.

I looked through the OP post to see if my question was there, maybe I missed it but, I am about to go back through all of doom again, but this time with brutal doom on the hardest setting.

My question is: Is there any sort of fix for the awkward up and down camera distortion?

>>1732302
OpenGL

>>1732302
The distortion is an artifact of software rendering. Switch to GZDoom and make sure hardware rendering is selected.

>>1732306
Is that a setting to be changed or something I run the game through?

>>1732310
Well first you need GZDoom or Zandronum.

Then you go to video resolutions and pick OpenGL instead of Software

>>1732306
>>1732309
>>1732310
Scratch that I am retarded, I remember seeing the GZdoom

Thanks kind Anons.

>>1732202
Looking through the txt it all seems to be more of less in order. I think 200 minutes of tech uses a daft punk song (not sure I remember that right). And home sweet hell is an edited version of mans world that I don't remember where I got the original from. I just took out the notes for the singing (they were annoying anyway) and made it loop.

>>1732310
It's a setting that exists in most sourceports. It's basically using your graphics card with modern rendering techniques vs. using the original renderer. gzDoom and Zandronum are the two most commonly used and generally the most compatible.

If there's no option for it under "video mode," I believe the console command is

vid_renderer 0 (for software renderer)
vid_renderer 1 (for openGL)

Fun fact: the distortion in software mode happens because the Doom engine renders all vertical lines as completely vertical on the screen at all times.

There is no bigger cunt in the entire Doom universe.

>>1732217
Do modern source ports support .MOD files and the like for music? A lot of what I find on the MOD archive would be great for a futuristic, science-fictiony map.

>>1732238
It's easily more comfortable and less awkward than keyboard only, and I'd say it's about on par with pre-analog console ports of Doom that use the D-pad and shoulder buttons for movement. I bet if you actually played like that for five minutes you'd get used to it.

But I also think God Hand is pretty much the best beat 'em up of the last fifteen years, and I think the controls are perfect for the level of complexity in the combat.

>>1732202
>yes. that was embarrassing.
Dude, why do you keep using a shit editor like yadex? Are you not on anything that can run Doom Builder? That shit will auto align textures for you if you press space. Shit so cash

There aren't any Doom/Anarchy Reigns mods, are there? Shit could be cool.

>>1732215
Maybe if run is toggle.

>>1732075
>>1732114
Turn up sound effects all the way, turn down music to off, turn up speakers until sound effects are the volume you want them, then turn music back up until it's to your liking.

>>1732364
Not that I know of, no.
But now I want Anarchy Reigns soundtrack on Doom.

Oh God hold me, this map is even better than stronghold and the music is so fitting with a soundfont you like.

>>1732365
It can be. I find it easier to always run and hold the button to walk, in the rare instance that I have to tread delicately on a narrow path or something.

http://www.twitchDOTtv/baronlive
Streaming some mapmaking!

>>1732369
I have my speakers at full volume already. It's still too damn low.

>>1732337

It very much does.

>>1732391
>posting a direct link to your stream
RIP in rip

>>1732374
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kIvx-fKFwVk

You know you want it.

>>1732234
I would make it a track shooter, like Taito's Space Gun.

Shoot off imp's arms to stop fire balls, shoot in the pinkys mouth to kill him faster, or blow off his legs, intercept revenant missiles...ect.

have a gimmick where there's a handel on top of the gun that initiates a chainsaw swipe that you can time against close enemies.

Have the gun simplified, your basic weapon is either the chain gun or the shotgun, pulling the trigger shoots bullets and that raises a heat-bar. you shoot your shotgun by pumping and pulling the trigger. The shotgun actually has ammo - would be about what you'd expect, use it to let your chaingun cool down, stun or knock back enemies.
Rockets act as upgraded ammo for the shotgun.
And a plasma gun upgrades your chaingun attack, instead it's an ammo bar.

BFG is your bomb. You've got a big tasty green button on the machine that glows BFG. Too many demons on screen...you slap that shit. there could even be a pressure sensitive so it does more damage the harder you hit it.

>>1732414

Holy shit. I'd play this

Could anyone recommend some grimdark .wads? Something with gothic cathedrals and occult imagery everywhere, preferably with a lot of visual detail.

>>1732215
>>1732349
>It's easily more comfortable and less awkward than keyboard only
>>firing with middle finger
>>having to constantly move your thumb under your palm to awkardly hit next weapon
Nigga are you literally a spider? Those controls look awful.

Here, I tried to fix it.

>>1732129
>default doom setting
What, like, the default game settings, or the setting of the Moons of Mars?

>>1732453

Relentless Decay
Hell Grounds
Brotherhood of Ruin

Looking for more wads, as well

Any mods that turn Doom into a more Hexen-esque adventure?

The next Doom is going to appear at QuakeCon
http://www.bethblog.com/2014/07/01/the-next-doom-at-quakecon/

>>1732456
That actually looks pretty comfortable. I can see how it would make more sense.

My logic was that strafe and weapon cycle were left and right of center, and the two buttons I'd be hitting the least were placed for my pinky. Since I mostly use arcade controls for six-button fighting games where I'm using all manner of punches and kicks constantly, I don't really have a natural finger preference for "main buttons."

>having to constantly move your thumb under your palm to awkardly hit next weapon
I just use my ring finger, like I would to use heavy kick in a fighter.

>>1732491
>This an exclusive thing we are doing for attendees as part of our Annual QuakeCon Welcome presentation.
Well that's disappointing.

>>1732502
Yeah no kidding.

I'm hoping at least for some shitty cell phone footage, or something.

>>1732502
>>1732505

What are they trying to hide?
Do they have that little confidence in it?

>>1732515
I know I do.

>>1732502
They did the same thing with Doom 3. That turned out great.

>>1732118
Hey guys, what's a Revanent's favorite arcade game?

Agitating stick
shitty joke because I just realized it was irritating stick

>>1732528

Care to explain in what aspect it turned out great?

>>1732564
It's sarcasm you idiot

>>1732564
Doom 3 is easily my least favorite Doom, but as post-Halo shooters go, it's a solid game.

>>1732335
>There is no bigger cunt in the entire Doom universe.
hdoom says otherwise

>>1732705

>>1732335

I wonder if Carmack ever fixed that bug in the engine

>>1732215
I tried playing Doom with an arcade stick, but I forgot to bind use

Have a WebM from a while ago

>>1732335
>pic related

>>1732715
kek.

>>1732721
Bug?

>>1732705
>hdoom
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t6-h-m8O1CU

what.....?

>>1732119

John Romero to appear at Revival '14 in England, he'll be both deathmatching and doing a Q&A. August 9.

http://www.doomworld.com/vb/doomworld-news/69210-romero-at-revival/

>>1732234
>More weapons? More powerups? Larger enemy variety? 2-Player Co-op? More bosses?

Why would you even need all that for an arcade port? I don't know about you, but all of my Doom play throughs tend to be ironman, and playing like that, Doom already has a pretty good "pick up and play it" sort of feel. I can see it going straight to arcade with only a few tweaks here and there, namely:

>score keeping
we already have the endlevel stats (kill %, secret % and time), so there's already a metric for what to measure. Figure up a way to make this a single number, and you have "score" (lower time = points, more kills = points, more secrets = points, etc).
Naturally, you'd need a storage system for scores too (i.e. a place to enter SEX once you game over)

>lives and token management
obviously, you'd need to have a credit manager and lives. maybe 3 lives per credit, score gets nuked after credit use.
Depending on which doom you use (I'm assuming ultimate doom), you could even have it such that one episode = 1 credit to play + how ever many continue credits the player needs. this would ensure the arcade owner makes some money off of a single playthrough.

One thing to maybe make it interesting would be to somehow make the machine internet enabled and have an online DM mode or something where players can interact with other cabinets across the world. And yes, two-man coop on the same machine sounds awesome.


However, I don't think doom would perform too well in a modern arcade (maybe a 90s or 80s one, but not a modern arcade).

Doom is essentially freeware and almost to the status of being a $2 phone/tablet game. What draws me to it in the arcade? Why is it worth spending $15 in quarters?
You look around in a dave and busters or other modern arcade and you'll notice something: a good deal of the machines have some sort of "gimmick" equipment to them -- racing cabinets, shit like sniper scope. What does doom have?

>>1732792
it's a mod, goofy and light hearted, the demons seek love, not war you just need to cool them off a bit first, Descartes will be your guide

>>1732797
I think he meant harddoom

http://ipodlinux.unas.cz/hdoom.htm

>YELLOW ON WHITE

http://forum.zdoom.org/viewtopic.php?p=770336#p770336

And here I thought Doom X being revived was the biggest bomb dropped regarding on-hold projects. Nothing can top this, son.

>>1732792

Read the news post.

>>1732827
I liked Legacy of Suffering 1.

Just wish the weapons could be used seperately.

>>1732261
That's actually a really good idea to make it more general purpose. I couldn't think of a good way to automatically generate a fair base time limit. Is the par time actually a numerical value somewhere in the WAD? I was thinking multiples of par, or par + a fraction of par, but the fairness of par time varies wildly from map to map anyway. When you've got a big, convoluted map with par under a minute, that just wouldn't work.

You're a big Demon.

>>1732851
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ie8LL6QqhXQ

hmmm

Anyone know where I can find a bitmap font of the doom font? I checked sprite sites but couldn't find any.

>>1732851
Dr. Betruger, I'm UAC.

>>1732851
if i take that skull off will you die?

>>1732885
It would be very agitating

>>1732889
you have big guts!

>>1732128
ScoreDoom

>>1732902
it's just not very good. No lives system either.

>>1732465
These are pretty cool WADs from what I've played so far. Thanks, magne.

I'm sure everybody's played it at this point, but Unloved is one of my favorites, and it's about the only one I've played that maintains that aesthetic throughout.

So before playing Doom 3 I went through Doom 1 and 2 including all bonus levels and official expansions, on ultra violence.

Holy shit, Doom 3 is a joke! I think I killed more enemies on one map of Doom 2 than I did in the entire game of Doom 3.

>>1732835
Open the wad, delete everything that isn't weapons.

Do you people not know how to do basic tweaks?

>>1732118
...wtf!?

>>1733030
Actually I did do that.
Had to change a lot of other things around because LOS changed things that make playing in vanilla awkward.

Sprites changing, where to put stuff, the lack of certain items, etc.

I have had to do tons of basic tweaks before.
I also made my own version of Eriguns before Xaser came along.

But unfortunately I don't know how to work with sprites so I can't actually make my own Autoshotgun Eriguns.

SLADE also doesn't work.
I've been stuck with an old version of Slumped

>>1733032
What's this from?

>>1733032
how!!?

>>1733038
The Wizard, a movie so bad.

>>1732385
Yeah, Nukage Processing's one of the best from TNT, as is Stronghold. You sound like the rare person who will like Drake O'Brien's maps.

>>1732752
>ave a wallpaper
Also, cool set-up with the dual screens and stick play. Doom just works well with anything, be it keyboard/mouse, console pad, or arcade stick.

>>1733046
It's from Grosse Point Blank.

>>1733053
Thank you
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AZt0fAZ018E

>>1733062
This movie looks baller as hell

>>1733062
If I'm going to guess from the movie's release date ('97) I'm betting that machine was provided by Midway and probably just demo'd a video of Doom

Midway were more known for their arcade shit which is why they did that, I bet

Arg, I can't predict the Brutal Icon of sin's patterns at all, I feel like I'm so close to killing it each time too

>>1733027
And carmack insists its what he would have mad if he had the tech for it

So guys, bear with me for a second.

Power Creep has hit Doom pretty hard. Even in normal Doom 1 and 2 (later levels, usually), you find that the big baddies, the Cyberdemon and the Spider Mastermind sort of degrade from "huge boss" status to "fearsome inconvenience" status. It's hard to find a Cyberdemon or Spider Mastermind without several others nuances flanking them.

So here's my proposal. Instead of making the demons tougher... what if we just made Doomguy weaker?

>>1733108
Hideous Destructor already does that.

But ignoring that

Making Doomguy weaker will not make many enemies dangerous without upgrading them.

Standard Enemies are a little too basic.

>>1733108

>implying you can make Doomguy weaker.

>>1733114
>Standard Enemies are a little too basic.
The problem with default enemies is their lack of attacking while moving. All of them stop to attack.

>>1733117

Obviously we need skeletons that can do sliding lunge punches, burly imps that can shoulder barge, cacos that can spit out a 360 AOE spray of spikes, Demons that have sticky tongues to pull you towards them, and jumping Hell Knights.

>>1733117
Even if they moved while attacking their projectiles are pretty slow and only come in a straight line and slow.

You'd have to either increase their attack rate tenfold(Project MSX) or make it harder to avoid damage in general(Brutal Doom)

Even if Doomguy is weaker it wouldn't be enough with standard enemies. The most dangerous enemies are hitscanners and Revenants/Archviles due to how their attacks work.

>>1733092
Help, Am I doing something wrong?

>>1733128
You're playing Brutal Doom.
[CANNED LAUGHTER]

>>1733097
Well that makes sense. When he did have the tech for it, it's what he made. And I'm sure he was talking about the engine mainly, not the gameplay.

>>1733132
Well that figures I'd get insults instead of help, fuck you guys

>>1733139
Hey, man. I'm just trying to have a little fun. I have no clue how to beat the thing simply because I haven't been there so I was just trying to give a little funny quip.

Sorry, dude.

>>1733114
What HD's player lacks in mobility he more than makes up for with increased firepower and range. Doomguy's chaingun does 5-15 damage per shot, firing at a rate of 525 rounds per minute. The equivalent in HD fires at either 700 or 2100 RPM and does 7-50 damage per individual bullet. If the enemies in HD weren't jacked up beyond the point of sanity, it wouldn't be much more difficult than the original game.

>>1733145
Yes well enemies were jacked up heavily.

Doomguy's default weapons are not ridiculously powerful outside of the SSG(In terms of efficiency) and the BFG9000.

Enemies can be pretty beefy.
But they are still pretty simple. Even if you were using reduced damage weaponry enemies are not so dangerous unless in clever ambushes or in interesting encounters.

Slaughtermaps always miss the point.

Either way, Doomguy is very powerful but the enemies he fights are also not very dangerous when it comes to offensive capabilities.

>>1733128
shoot at it until it dies

>>1733160
>>1733140
well then, I guess i just have to get lucky, his attacks have no predictable patterns, and the guys he summons aren't weak either, half the time I'm taken out by an enemy I just didn't see in the chaos, or in on bothersome case, a specter getting in the way of my rockets

So Master Levels was pretty fun. At least the PSX version.

Is the original as fun?

There were barely any high tier enemies, mostly low tier with some Hell Knights.

>>1733140

what else were you expecting from their kind, to be honest?

>>1733128
>>1733160

*crouch at it until it dies.

>>1733145
>>1733154

The answer obviously relies on map placement; look at Going Down, for example. Mouldy can take a zombieman and make him a REAL threat to the player. I'm pretty sure if he could, he would make Keen actually harmful to Doomguy.

>>1733120

Bad news is, if we were to even add a SLIGHT change to any monster's attack behavior, we would get backlash because of "muh patterns". Heaven forbid if an imp throws -fast fireballs, but replacing a chainsaw with a BFG with infinite ammo? A-ok

>>1732159

Ep4 starts heavy, then it slows down, then ramps the difficulty again at E4M6 and then it goes down again

>>1732202
33s author here; weren't you keeping it because we lacked maps? Just ditch it if it rustles "muh vanilla purity" crowds jimmies.

>>1733170
>Bad news is, if we were to even add a SLIGHT change to any monster's attack behavior, we would get backlash because of "muh patterns"

Fuck it. Do it anyway. That's the whole purpose of a mod sometimes.

>>1733172
Was being kept because it started as a 200 minute map, and secrets are fun (I'd have kept it out of the .txt file even myself). We have all 32 maps otherwise.

Noones jimmies are rustled about it.

What does this guy say again?

>>1733038
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gross_Point_Blank

>>1733137
Doom 3 does feel more like a tech demo than a game. Like they wanted to create a new lighting engine so they ripped off System Shock with an old IP to have for an excuse to make a game.

>>1733189
"To win the game, you must kill me, John Romero"

Except backwards and with Carmack singing in the background.

>>1732176
Play some punch out with those nerds and beat them 2 the punch.

Doom Roguelike

do I keep my assembled Tactical Shotgun or spring for the Assault Shotgun drop?

Also what the fuckety fuck am I supposed to do againt Shamblers? run away?

>>1733172
https://archive.foolz.us/vr/thread/1646582/#1647094
and the following couple of posts was where we decided to keep it.

>>1733187
heh i never even thought to hide it from the text file. i don't think anyone would find it if its existence weren't hinted at. like an unmarked secret door...

Checked the OP and the 200 min megawad download link isn't there,anyone have it?

>>1733194
If it was as complicated as System Shock 2 the slowass asythma marine crawling in tiny corridors could have been forgiven. C'mon SS is more scary because of "holy shit all my weapons are broken" and "I have no AP ammo to shoot cyborgs and I don't know where the next vendor is"

>>1733187
Sure. Still, if you ever need to ditch it I am fine with it.

>>1733217

go read a liiiitle bit further, it's one of the earliest posts

>>1733220
i didn't saw that,thanks

>>1733218
I said ripoff. It's not as good. Although the floaty slow combat in System Shock 2 never took to my liking. Nothing has any oomph.

>>1732128
>2 player DOOM lightgun cabinet
Give it some distinct weapons and it would be great man.

>>1733209
Tactical. That extra d3 damage makes a difference in knockback, and the Assault doesn't have any assemblies that you're likely to find parts for anytime soon.

>Shamblers
Shoot them until they die. But seriously though, corner-shoot with shotguns whenever you can and switch to the biggest gun you have (preferably rockets/plasma) when that's not an option.

>>1733229
thanks

I've put like twelve microlauncher rockets into shamblers before, on Not Too Rough, and they didn't die. Were hardly even wounded. I assumed they were sorta the Tonberries of the game and were just to be avoided.

>>1733232
>spawn in a room with literally 6 imps, a chaingunner, a Baron of Hell and a former commando
>no cover
>running, nanofiber armor and brute
>die in 1 turn
T-thanks

>>1733245
that doesnt sound that hard. you just need better weapons, or maybe you just need to git good

does anyone know where the red key door is in map11 in alien vendetta

>>1733251
>get better weapons
>I died in one turn with the best armor available at that point in the game
Okay

Whatever happened to that one anon that was working on the game with the girl that they so tediously sprited?

>>1733194
SS wasn't the only game to use the "found audio log" story telling method in the 90's.

I think Doom 3 was a good game in its own right. I never got the whole "ripped off SS" thing. Thought never entered my mind when I was playing.

>>1733263
Doom 3 was good but not great. I had a lot more fun playing Quake 4 and especially Prey (fucking loved the art direction there).

>>1733260
take care of the chaingunner and commando immedeatly, take out the imps but try to start some infighting to distract the baron and whittle down a bit of his health, then take him out once all the imps are dead. are you out of ammo or something?

>>1733276
>die in one turn
What part of this do you not understand?
There was literally nothing I could do, it was just a bad spawn.

>>1733194
SS2 was scary because it made you feel constantly threatened and alone. Until the late game there was never a moment where you were confident you could waltz through a level.

That goes out the window when you have an assault rifle and 200 anti-personel cartridges.

>>1733294
doom is an action game before its a horror game

>>1733276
The actual roguelike, not DoomRLA. It doesn't have infighting.

>>1733274
Prey was great. Still has the best intro to any fps I've played. Quake 4 was okay. Dragged on. I think Doom 3 was better than both of them. Doom 3 never felt like it dragged on for me. Right when it was about to BAM hell. And I genuinely enjoy reading log messages.

>>1733296
oh whoops. i just kinda assumed he meant doomrla

>>1733301
>specifically mentioned DIED IN ONE TURN
dude
come on

>>1733304
yeah i wasnt really sure what he meant by that. ive never played the original doomrl

>>1733295
True. But most people who played it at release crept through the game on edge before they got gud.

This is what I hope for Doom 4: Starts out like Doom 3, creeping through corridors and monster closets - ends like the original Doom. Sprinting around firing double barreled shotguns into floating eyeballs.

>>1733298
I have to disagree. I think Doom 3 started very fast and never really stopped doing so. Really, it's a better game than Q4 but I wasn't as entertained by it.

Yeah, the intro to Prey was amazing. Very solid game overall, though I would have preferred actually dying over that shooting-spirits-with-arrows minigame.

>>1733312
started dragging*

>>1733261

Can you be more specific?

>>1733318
She wore a black coat, and the mod author was wanting to do something kind of like strife with an ongoing story and whatnot.

>>1733318
I think he's talking about spritenoob and lydia, not sure though.

If that's the case I'm not sure if there was ever a game planned, just a player skin basically. The guy's name is spritenoobsaibot and he posts here still, I remember seeing him at most 3 threads ago.

>>1733323
That's the one!

>>1733312
Yeah, that minigame was weird. Though the indian mythology coming into play was fun.

ha

>>1733336
I would have prefered a less direct approach to the mythology as far as gameplay goes. It was an interesting addition though, especially how tommy had to embrace his religious and cultural heritage to survive.

>>1733309
Yeah, starting out slower with a creepy atmosphere for maybe the first hour of gameplay would be fine, but then shit needs to unload

Like, I'd love it if the entire first bit is just pistol, flashlight, darkness, fucking nothingness

And then you find the shotgun and E1M1 kicks in.

>>1733189
"Succumb to us, Heretic" and "Destroy the Heretic".

http://doomwiki.org/wiki/Disciple_Of_D%27Sparil

>>1732118
>>1732128
Threw this together a while ago for a MAME cabinet that presently has a strong will against being built. I think I'll probably end up taking in the control panel a bit.

How do i install hdoom after downloading the techdemo files?

>>1733379
>not having the DOOM 1 logo be the front decal and the Cyberdemon/Marine be the separated side decals

Other than that it looks pretty baller man.

>>1733384
just drag and drop it on your source port exe. theres no installation for doom mods unless we're talking doomrpg

>>1733395
Thanks bro i'll be njoying myself some pinky demon

>>1733414
gross.

>>1733341
What mod?

>>1733426
wad I mean

>>1733379
That's the control panel with the Doom 2 cover. The Doom 1 cover just doesn't crop well to such a short/wide canvas. However, the Doom 2 art can be cropped to a landscape-style panel like that pretty easily because the focus of the picture is wide and shallow.

I would have to have just demons or Just Doomguy on the panel, basically. I also like the way it suggests a struggle between player one and player two to have the demon on one set of controls and the marine on the other.

>>1733395
whenever i run it with zdoom.exe it either doesnt run or just starts regular doom

>>1733443
If you're having trouble I suggest downloading ZDL. It makes loading and swapping wads much easier.

>>1733441
I see. Stylistically I'd like the DooM 1 cover more but for practical reasons I can understand why you'd use Doom 2's. It looks sicknasty man.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BP6QjH6bgpM

>>1733379
I don't think that Icon of Sin behind that Doom logo looks too good.

>>1733470
>doomgen regular goes outside.mov

>>1733169
Master levels are very underated. Here's the Zdoom version:
http://www.mediafire.com/download/jkh5dh2or3dcxj6/Master_Levels_in_Zdoom.zip

>>1733169
>There were barely any high tier enemies, mostly low tier with some Hell Knights.
shit that actually sounds really fun, less bullet sponge enemies with slow dodgeable bullet hell attacks

PSX Revnants are pretty interesting. They're very slow, and their missles are slow too. So in some ways they're much easier. But their god damn missels can pull seemingly 180 degree turns and follow you around corners.

Someone should make a variant of them in addition to the regular ones.

Sgt Shivers is a pretty great guy.

>>1732843
You could always just make an arbitrary "forgiving" par time up...
ill agree, alot of dooms par times are only fair if youve played the level to completion before. For example: e1m7 (i think) has a rediculous par if you havent memorised the map layout.
For an arcade port where youll have noobs playing alot, you should go with a "forgiving par" that calculates health degredation and then an "acheivement par" (the original par) that gives bonus points for every second you beat it by + a bonus for acheiving it.

>>1733581
IIRC the par times are just "How fast Romero could reach the exit."

So an achievement would be like "Better than the best"?

>>1733501
That's pretty neat.
Wouldn't mind seeing more prancing walk animation though.

>>1733596

I'd kill for a GALLANT STRUT but I have to make do with what I got, I'm no sprite artist and I'm not about to ask the guy that's already done so much for me to make something that complex.

Anyone else play In Name Only? I like it so far but it feels like the game relies way too much on having enemies be in blind spots from behind or at a corner. But maybe I just suck right now cause I was playing it at like 3:30AM.

>>1732178
>Also /vr/ has a typically cooler crowd, and I don't think most of us want retards to start popping into these threads, we try to keep them drama free for the most part

Speaking of that it's pretty damn amazing Doom generals still manage to stay on topic despite having one nearly everyday since /vr/ was launched. It's cool how it transitioned from just regular talk about Doom and setting up multiplayer matches to having users actually create and help each other out with wads.

>>1732851
>I'm DOOM.jpg
>not I'm UAC.jpg

I prefer to play doom with a gamepad. Does this make me a bad person?

>>1733639
Not as bad as me. I use the mouse to aim!

>>1732861
>YEEEaaaHHH
>GOD BLESS AMERICA

Doom RPG got an update. A big one.

>>1733189
look awsome , what mod is that ?

>>1733650
Here's the hint:

>>1732851

I have big guts for you.

>>1733650
I use Git to git the updates

har har har

>>1732176
Jesus Tittyfuccking McChrist, I could never plain punch my way through something like that, even with the Berserk pack.

Color me impressed!

>>1733654
What's the level in the background?

>>1733650
>>1733654
Is this the ios game?

>>1733651
It's not a mod, it's Heretic. It's all built off of the Doom engine though with some minor adjustments

>>1733690
It's running a mod on Heretic.

>>1733692
Oh right. Sorry. I didn't think you were referring to that

>>1733626
I like that we have so many people making content here, and quality content no less. Speaking of multiplayer, do we ever get a server running and play dm or something?

>>1732562
>joke
Though he loves Doom the most, Revenant really likes this AaAaAA!!! game!

... I kind of went overboard on this sketch that was just intended for a dumb aaaaa joke.

>>1733690
>>1733692
>>1733693
thank you but im pretty sure that was not in vanilla Heretic :)
so i just want to know what kind wad or pk3 is that

>>1733703
>Demon girl in the doorway
You have my attention.

>>1733703
>that demon girl
I'm not sure which of my shotguns I should be shooting her with.

>>1733720
They're all skins from the /vr/ skin pack
http://best-ever.org/download?file=vrskins_v3.3r.wad

Throw em in the Zandronum directory in a folder called skins and you can change skins around in player setup. Keep in mind not every mod allows skins though.

>>1733703
Don't worry, I'm sure you brought your aaaaaaaa game

>>1733092
Copeepasta'in my answer from the previous thread, and adding new crap information in
>>1730262
Care to play Real Icon of Sin with BD because it has some nice features for healing back and several advantages when you grab the berserker pack

>It will spawn an arch-vile at health thresholds and add one more different attack to its arsenal everytime.
>it screams when it hits a certain health threshold
>It imitates, Mancubus flamebomb attack, Cyberdemon's rocket attack (meteor spit) and Revenant's missile attack. Also have original attacks like lightning storm and an ear shattering scream. You have to take cover and be on the move for those
>for taking cover for every kind of attack (lightning, one hit KO meteor, flame spread, scream and misille rain.) you can use the small gate under the altar. But you have to kill Arch-Vile before doing that.
>for scream attack and direct hit attacks hide behind the short pillars at sides. Right one requires you to crouch behind it.
>Aiming at head helps, use plasma and rockets to hit its head and you'll double your damage output. As long as you have good condition be on the move and aim at the head. Hiding for long will get you rekt.
>if you're really courageous, grab the megasphere at the right side on top of pillars by the end of fight, again if there's an Arch-Vile it will rekt you out from top.
>when you decide you have to deal more damage jump over the altar and drop at the water, then spam BFG with all your might

on low-mediocre hp, fend the small gate under the altar with
>Super Shotgun and Plasmagun if you need nice firepower
>quick kicks (berserker power-up'd, jump kicks have higher damage gets rid of pests quicker, bind a key if you didn't yet from controls)
>Fatality mode fists (berserker power-up needed again, execution imps and demons for extra hp)
>Minigun (for small cruelty bonuses when you overkill, because of a bug try to stand on a solid surface when trying to gain cruelty bonus seem to not work in water)

>>1733092
Copeepasta'in my answer from the previous thread, and adding new crap information in
>>1730262
Care to play Real Icon of Sin with BD because it has some nice features for healing back and several advantages on Berserk

>It will spawn an arch-vile at health thresholds and add one more different attack to its arsenal everytime.
>it screams in anguish when it hits a certain health threshold
>It imitates, Mancubus' (flamebomb), Cyberdemon's (meteor spit) and Revenant's (Hellish misille) attacks. Also have original attacks like lightning storm and an ear shattering scream. You have to take cover and be on the move for those
>for taking cover for every kind of attack (lightning, one hit KO meteor, flame spread, scream and misille rain.) you can use the small gate under the altar. But you have to kill Arch-Vile before doing that.
>for scream attack and direct hit attacks hide behind the short pillars at sides. Right one requires you to crouch behind it.
>Aiming at head helps, use plasma and rockets to hit its head and you'll double your damage output. As long as you have good condition be on the move and aim at the head. Hiding for long will get you rekt.
>if you're really courageous, grab the megasphere at the right side on top of pillars by the end of fight, again if there's an Arch-Vile it will rekt you out from top.
>when you decide you have to deal more damage jump over the altar and drop at the water, then spam BFG with all your might

on low-mediocre hp, or when it hits a hp threshold, get under the altar and use
>Super Shotgun and Plasmagun if you need nice firepower
>quick kicks (berserk'd, jump kicks have higher damage gets rid of pests quicker, bind a key if you didn't yet from controls)
>Fatality mode fists (berserker power-up needed again, execution imps and demons for extra hp)
>Minigun (for small cruelty bonuses when you overkill, because of a bug try to stand on a solid surface when trying to gain cruelty bonus seem to not work in water)

eeeh... might be a home to Manly Magic stuff...
Like episodic stuff with progression.
Episode One; MagicDoomDude learns about magic and hell (Punches Icon Of Sins cubes to cast fist)
Episode Two; MagicDoomDude is now a MagicianDemon and grows in power (Punches Icon Of Sins cubes to cast something fancier).
Episode Three; MagicDoomDude is now a God (Shits cubes by now).

https://drive.google.com/file/d/0Bx-OZG3OqlkwdldGZ0pDS0syeTA/edit?usp=sharing

>>1733707
from the HUD i'd say it's wrath of chronos

>>1733703
>YES!

Hahaha

>>1733697

Every now and then. As of late we've mostly been kicking back and chilling.
I wouln't mind getting the fragfest going again sometime soon, though.

>>1733806
I suck at deathmatch, but I would like to go at it with you guys

>>1733703
you can't hide, shrek

>>1732176
Was this in ZDoom or PrBoom?

For my inferno plans, should I include modern figures in hell, or just historical ones?

>>1733982

>>1733982
>>1733991

Sorry, I thought you said modern OR historical. I can't read.

>>1734004
Its okay, I confess to drawing some inspiration from Requiem Chavelar Vampire

>>1733879

>>1732128

>>1732176
That's some serious rippin' and tearin'.

>>1732176
What map set is this from?

>>1734030
quake is a what... 18 year old game? how would someone find that "animated violence strong"?
even DOOM is more violent than quake is.

>>1734015
Thew hell is that?, some pretencious french work?

>>1733589
Actually, he would add 5-10 seconds to each. So Romero could actually do it even faster.

>>1734040
How does old mean it's not strongly violent? How does something else being more violent mean it's not strongly violent?

>>1734050
You know, most developers are usually terrible at their own game.

Romero is the exact opposite. I'm usually pretty impressed at how good he is at Doom.

He's probably better than most.

>>1732478
Define Hexen-esque. You want a medieval theme? Weapons? Monsters?

>>1734071
I think he wants obscure puzzles with terrible hints that make you give up after half an hour and resort to a walkthrough six times per hub.

>>1734067
most likely I'm just desensitized to violence,but I just feel that quake isn't really that violent when compared to modern games.

>>1734049
>pretencious
Go find them and read them.

>>1734086
Looks like a Metal Album cover

>>1734095
Every single page looks like it's from a metal album, thet picture is possibly the least awesome thing you will see

>>1734095
Every page is a metal album cover
kickass .to/ requiem-vampire-knight-1-10-t7479257.html

heh, didn't see that >>1734106 while looking for the torrent...

>>1732217
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hc5wx1OPmm4&feature=kp

>>1734078
I feel that's saying more about modern games than about Quake.

I've been looking for a wad that could replace the music in doom with the 3do soundtrack, can anyone point a few fingers and help me out?

>>1734204

http://www.mediafire.com/download/3dfbm5n3k18s7t6/3DO.pk3

>>1734216
Holy shit that's a big file size, thanks anyway I'm gonna fap to this music while playing doom.

>>1734230

I could only find it in flacc format.

What you can do is find them in .mp3 or .ogg format. Then make your own music wad.

How do I git gud? What do I do in deathmatch to get a decent score?

>>1734274
Get crafty with rockets. Gitting any sufficient amount of gud is something that comes over time; gud is a well-honed skill.

So I got the E1M3 spot in the Ultimate Doom In Name Only project. Obviously I took the opportunity to make a huge room with nukeage shit.

I just wanted to say because I'm a little frustrated

Sprite offsets can be a real bitch, that's all. I have this one damn sprite that looks like it is so damn close to being aligned with another one, yet it is ever just so slightly off no matter what I do

are mancubi former humans? a human skeleton falls out of them when they die and they dont really look like any of the other demons

>>1734304
Sprite offsets is the main reason why I never put anything in the game myself and make other people do it

>>1734317

My interpretation is that none of the demons are former humans. They are a race unto themselves of hellish creatures. Previous invasions might have been where humans got the idea of hell and demons. So basically aliens.

For actual former humans, they get posessed somehow.

>>1734317
I think the instructions actually say a Mancubus is what happens when an incubus and succubus fuck

Bad build?

>>1734325
I always imagined Incubi looking like the Greys

i've been playing though a bunch of garbage 1994 maps, sometimes you find something kind of cool!

>>1734317
Written stuff is so rudimantry and open to interpretation it doesn't worth bothering yourself to find the "canon".

They could be scientist that got pegged by succubi while trying to fight the demons with flame throwers... They could be NEETs reincarnation in Hell.

They could also be "I love putty so much I'll make the LARGE DEMON WITH LARGE PROJECTILE ATTACK a fatso, so I can use more putty yay!".

>>1734405
maybe if the archviles are the doctors of hell, the mancubi are the fat nerd scientists of hell which would explain their tech weapons

>>1734423
>doctors of hell

thanks for the new band name bro

>>1734241
>flacc
As a minor audiophile, thank you.

>>1734302
Is this early WIP?

>>1734351
Yeah, you'll just end up with a corrupt 7z file for now.

>>1734423
>>1734405
I kinda imagine the Succubi are kinda non action types gathering samples in the mortal world and using them to make Mancubi, which are about the inteligence oof sloth from goonies

>>1734274
git aggressive

if you're not fighting anyone for a period of 10 or more seconds, you're doing it wrong

>>1734302
>>1734435

http://www.doomworld.com/vb/wads-mods/69226-ultimate-doom-in-name-only/

Good luck O6; in my opinion one rule for E1 should've been "follow Romero's mapping rules", anyway, try your best at catching his mapping spirit.

And speaking of big names coming back (to create maps, at least)

http://www.doomworld.com/vb/wads-mods/68969-hexen-shadows-of-cronos/

>>1733469
Thanks!

>>1733581
That's actually a really good scoring idea, but to make it a versatile gameplay mod, it would have to generate its par time based on something in the map's data, most likely the par time, or at least an equation where par time is a variable.

>>1733639
You will probably get shit for it, but nah. I find controllers more comfortable, even though I'm well aware that KB/M is objectively more accurate.

It only really matters if you play competitively. I feel pretty formidable with a controller in single player, but I get decimated every time I play online.

>>1734467
got a link or pastebin of these? doom wiki only has a couple and I'd love beginners tips.

Newb here. After reading the zdoom wiki I finally got to set up switching between modern aiming and vanilla the way I like.

alias -modernAim "autoaim 5000; freelook false; crosshair 0; centerview; rebind +modernAim"
alias +modernAim "autoaim 0; freelook true; crosshair 2; rebind -modernAim"
bind t +modernAim

What do you think?

I also read that wads can specify to zdoom aiming options but can you even rely on authors to do that?

>>1734559
>What do you think?

I have no idea what that means.

>>1734559

I use freelook without crosshairs.

So, I've noticed that most sourceports have "allow jump" and "allow crouch" set to "default." by default, but in my experience the "default" setting still allows jumping and crouching 100% of the time, regardless of whether jumping was intended in the WAD, or even an existing feature at the time of the WAD's creation. "Default" allows jumping and crouching even when only an IWAD is loaded.

Is there a way to fix this, or do you pretty much have to manually turn it off on a per-WAD basis/just not use it? My less experienced friends tend to jump and crouch their way into dead ends because they think you're supposed to be able to do that, no matter how many times I explain the dead end scenario.

>>1734608
IWADs all have their own settings.
Just change it for each one and there you go.

>>1734559
I just mouselook with the vertical sensitivity set to zero, but whatever floats your boat.

>>1734497
>it would have to generate its par time based on something in the map's data, most likely the par time, or at least an equation where par time is a variable.

Par time, monster count, possibly map size (a rough estimate based upon the two furthest map points?), probably other variables too?

Maybe something to disregard par time and use a different formula if par time is 30 and map has > a certain amount of monsters? (since that would usually mean that it's just using an "undefined" par time rather than a real par time.)

>>1734613
Okay, that makes sense. Is there a way to foce-save a config? I've noticed that when starting games through Doomseeker on friends' computers, I have to re-bind controls and change game options literally every time we start the game. When I'm there to adjust things, it's just an annoying setback, but the amount of options can be confusing and intimidating to newcomers. I can't tell you how many times I've seen one guy do shit like map turning to the left stick Y axis when he's trying to adjust sensitivity.

>>1734608
If I recall correctly ZDoom on "Default" setting allows jumping and crouching unless the opposite is specified in MAPINFO lump. On\Off settings are used for force enabling\disabling jumping\crouching disregarding of setting set in MAPINFO lump.

good? bad?

>>1733032
>>1733041

>i want to believe

>>1734690
That would explain it, but it seems ass backwards that "default" would enable features that aren't in any of the IWADs and only explicitly intended for a fraction of PWADs. I would think "default" should DISALLOW jumping and crouching unless the opposite was specified.

>>1734723
Sadly, you're with us in the minority.

In DoomRLA, is there a way to view the stats for weapons? I have no idea if one weapon is better than another in many cases.

Also, How do the stats work for armor? The way I'm guessing it works is:

>Protection is how much of incoming damage your armor absorbs (and how much the armor degrades as a result)

>Resistances reduce specific types of damage before protection comes into play.

>The protection rating on boots only applies to damage floors.

>>1734798
If you feel like sifting through insane amounts of code you can look at the weapon DECORATE to see the values, but there's nothing in-game. If you're curious about particular weapons, ask and we'll answer. We've got some pretty knowledgeable people here, including the mod's developer himself.

>>1734808
It almost sounds like an equipment guide should be made.

It's not too big of a deal to know the numbers, since most of the time my metric of how good weapons are is just to try them out on various enemies. Most of the time I end up just rolling with high power assemblies.

>>1734818
Best Shotguns:
Super Shotgun
Auto Doubleshotgun on Marine

Best pistols:
Storm Combat pistol
Nuclear something pistol

Best weapon that goes in the 4 slot:
Minigun
Chaingun
Battle Rifle

Best rocket launcher:
Napalm

Best Palsma
Plasma Rifle

Best BFG
Any of them

High Powered any of them will slap everything's shit.

>>1734843
was making a gatling gun a mistake? should i just've gone with a modded battle rifle or something?

Specially if you slap a firestorm modpack

>>1734867
There is no mistakes.
You are fine.

Really you can use whatever you want as long as you high power it.
And preferably use a weapon made for your class.

>>1734882
how do you high power weapons

>>1734887
PB.

I prefer the MkII plasma to hi-power though, but it counts as single-shot.

>>1734926
goddarn it i already modded it

>>1734887
Power + Bulk mods.
Requires any non-shotgun with a magazine higher than 5.

>>1734935
Toss it and pick it up again.

wtf

I figured out it's sv_autoaim 3 but why?

>>1734940
i still feel bad i have to lose the mods i put on it :<

>>1734967
You get over it pretty quickly when you realize mods are pretty common.

Especially PB

>>1734965
Fucks with the destructible objects and I think corpses.

>>1734965
Beautiful Doom tries too hard to get you to like it.
Use ReDoom instead.

>>1734965

I fucking HATE shit like that.
No, fuck you, warn me if my settings won't work but don't force me to change it just for one mod that I'm probably never going to open again.

>>1734965
>forces you to use auto-aim
FUUUCK YOOOOUUUUUUUU
I PLAY WITH THE MOUSE TO GET AWAY FROM THAT!

>>1734435
>Is this early WIP?
Yeah, I literally started building that like 10-15 minutes before I posted that screenshot

The floor nukages itself later on when you hit a switch and that center platform raises. I also haven't really lit the room yet (I usually do lighting on a different pass of the entire level).

>>1734467
>Good luck O6; in my opinion one rule for E1 should've been "follow Romero's mapping rules", anyway, try your best at catching his mapping spirit.

I always try to make my maps relatively Romero-like; I like his rules and try to follow them exclusively when I make maps. I'm also probably going to break somebody's rule because fuck it, I'm putting a teleport in and nobody can stop me.

>>1734608
>My less experienced friends tend to jump and crouch their way into dead ends because they think you're supposed to be able to do that, no matter how many times I explain the dead end scenario.
Disable it when you run the server, dummy

>>1735024

vanilla E1M5 has a teleport; as long as it's balls-deep hard to figure out people shouldn't make a huge deal about it.

>>1734970
ReDoom is a buggy piece of shit.
>>1734985
It doesn't.
>>1734979
What are your defaults?

>Check out the DoomRLA thread to check up on progress.
>Every post for the past several pages is the same pony faggot asking increasingly asinine questions.

Being Yholl must be suffering.

Did Sarge ever say what the official/given reason was for his ban? Because the ban come late if it was about the suicide thing.

And here I was, joking around with the fact that people like to slap +100MB wads because they can't stand the original graphics

http://www.doomworld.com/vb/doom-general/69233-doom-ii-roland-sc-55-music-pack-and-others/
http://sc55.duke4.net/games.php#doom

For those out of the loop, Bobby Prince made the Doom MIDIs in a Roland SC55, which means (for some people in the community) that it was ~the way the music was meant to be heard~

/vrfilters/ buzzwords aside, quite honestly it shouldn't hurt to give it a try, which is what I'm about to do right now.

>>1735074
>Did Sarge ever say what the official/given reason was for his ban?

Yes, he says it was because they were jealous of him and his success.

The actual reason is because he was being a douchebag for too long.

okay people of /vr/, name a non FPS video game that you'd want remade in the Doom engine, and one non video game property that you'd like to see done in the Doom engine

for example for the first one I'd like to see Dark Sector remade in the Doom engine(although the 2009 version of Wolfenstein would also be neat to see get a demake)

for the second, I'd like to see the Mobile Suit Gundam franchise get said treatment(the Mecha genre would be interesting to see done up Doom style)

>>1735130
>non FPS video game that you'd want remade in the Doom engine
God Hand.

>non video game property that you'd like to see done in the Doom engine
The Raid: Redemption

>>1735058
7.6 is out, so I guess he's still going strong

>>1735130
>name a non FPS video game that you'd want remade in the Doom engine
Super Metroid

>and one non video game property that you'd like to see done in the Doom engine
Legends of the Hidden Temple.

>>1735130
>non FPS video game that you'd want remade in the Doom engine
Sam & Max or Michael Jackson's Moonwalker

>non video game property that you'd like to see done in the Doom engine
Number Stations

>>1735152
Mariokart.

>>1735146
>Legends of the Hidden Temple
Yes please, Silver Snakes for life

>>1735159
>not green monkeys

>>1735074
http://forum.zdoom.org/viewtopic.php?f=4&t=37728
This thread was the last straw.

People on the spriting carnival are talking very enthusiastically about a doom kart mod in the spriting carnival thread in zdoom

Very bizarre reading it after that old doom kart mod fiasco, but it is nice to see

>>1735159
>>1735189

>not the Blue Barracudas

>>1734985


about mods forcing shit

I'm making a mod, and I used +ForceXYBillboard on all interactive actors (i.e. enemies, projectiles, items) and put +ForceYBillboard on all decor (Torches and whatnot)

Did it because I like seeing enemies at all angles but don't like floating torches, is this an overall bad idea. if I get to a point where I can release this mod, should I remove the flags?

>>1735201
Well they can have my sprites if'n they want them. All depends on the style they're going for.

Maybe I'll make an account. If nothing else maybe they'll get used for something else.

>>1735201

It will literally go no-damn-where, I've seen this movie thousands of times

http://forum.zdoom.org/viewtopic.php?p=688898#p688898

It's BruiserDoom aaaalll over again, people will jump on the fad and yadda yadda, they may do a "project" thread to dump all the small thingies, hoping that someone does something with them, but aside from that...

The picture Terminus did was pretty spot-on, you can pick ideas off from the forums as if you were on a damned grocery store, it all comes down to picking the right tomatoes

>>1735220
>It will literally go no-damn-where

I don't think Doom mods have the ability to travel like living creatures do.

>>1735130
>non-fps
Max Payne
>non-video game
Digimon, I mean Beelzebumon already has dual-wielding double-barrel shotguns and there's a digimon called Gundramon.

How would Doomguy fare innawoods /vr/?

>>1735214

No. That's fine, because you're not forcing people to use certain settings.

>>1735223
they only do it when you're not looking

>>1735235
I'm ALWAYS looking.

>>1735223

yeah, they move as frequently as ur mum's legs every friday night #REKT

>>1735214
Yes, it's a bad idea. Don't force the way you like to play on people. It's literally as bad as saying "This map requires Brutal Doom" even when it fucking don't

>>1735226
>Metal Gear Ocelot
This isn't even my final form

>>1735130
>a non FPS video game that you'd want remade in the Doom engine
Either Shadowrun for the SNES (except bigger and better) or Syndicate Wars (except "finished).

>and one non video game property that you'd like to see done in the Doom engine
Big Trouble In Little China.

>>1735251
>Shadowrun for the SNES
That'd be cool as fuck.

>Big Trouble In Little China
I see this working a little less. One of my favorite bits about that movie is that the hero is nearly useless until the very end.

>>1735253
You don't have to play as Kurt Russel, hell, I just figured it could ape the style and charm of the movie.

Alternatively, odds can be stacked against you and you can't fight every encounter.

Or, the big bad has kidnapped the H-Doom Imp-tan and you have to rescue her.

>>1735253
>>1735262
The Thing or Escape From NY are much better ideas for Doom conversions. I'd love to see a full-on arctic Doom mod. Demons on Hoth!

>>1735196
hahahaha

The butthurt is coming through my screen.

>>1735268
Escape from New York maybe. I disagree with the thing too though.

The thing (ha ha) about movie-games is pacing. You'll almost never get the same feeling out of an action game that you got from a suspense/horror movie. In an action game you slice through monsters left and right, but in a movie every monster is a real threat.

Personally I'd love a game where you saw monsters a lot less but they were more of a threat. Or like a zombie game that once you're bitten you done fucked up and have slim to no chance of recovering.

I dunno. Monsters in games... cannon fodder. I want more focus on them as living beings. comparable to the player. AI. All that.

>>1735268
Actually, Escape From New York would make for a kickass mod.

I'd love a dark, urban dystopian setting.

>>1735274
>eric
>butthurt

yeah nah

>>1735285
Jelly maybe...
Choo choo.

Can someone help me run this mod?
http://forum.zdoom.org/viewtopic.php?f=19&t=33292
I used the installer, set where my wads and GZDoom was, and where the game was gonna go, I updated, I run and the suddenly I get this error message:
"Execution could not continue. 29 errors while parsing DECORATE scripts."
pls help
I have no idea what a DECORATE script is, since I try to play the mods, not make them

>>1735290

What version of GZDoom are you using?

>>1735294
1.8.02

>>1735140
>every penis in a jap porno
False,i have seen a lot of uncensored videos

So.. why are we bringing up Brutal Doom and the events leading up to Sarge's ZDoom.org ban? This usually eventually leads to shitposting.

>>1735297
Then it wasn't made for distribution in Japan, because they don't allow it.

>>1735301
Probably someone who's looking to stir up some shit.

>>1735274
Reading this always brings a smile to my face. It must be the choice of words.

>>1735296

http://devbuilds.drdteam.org/gzdoom/gzdoom-G1.9pre-691-g0cb1547.7z

Try this.

>>1735301

I dunno. Some apologist trying to stir something I guess.

>>1735130

Game: No More Heroes
IP: Oddworld

>>1735274
Eric_'s response was my favorite rant of all time. He was absolutely brilliant at hitting each nail on the head with it.

>>1735290
DECORATE is one of the scripts included inside the wad. For tech info, it defines any custom actors, I.E. new weapons, new enemies, or even (gasp) decorations. It was introduced in Hexen (iirc) where it's use was for making new (guess what) decorations.

Anywa-ohhhhhhhhh you're trying to run Doom RPG....

yeaaaaaaaaaah I'm not going to be able to help with this one. Good luck guys.

>>1735274
You think that's bad, get a load of this.

>>1735305
Thanks, man!

>>1735140
thats too big for a jap dick

>>1734965
>or this message will stay here forever
To this day I find the orange-on-black "It is now safe to turn the computer off" message creepy, especially at night
Now it's in my Doom
Help

>>1735307
Whoops, didn't see "Non-video game". Lemme change that to...
...Ummmm...

Fuck. Hold on.

>>1735315

It's too late, anon.

>>1735309
Please stop posting these, nothing good is going to come from it.

>>1735315
Why... why are you afraid of that? Of all things?

>>1735309
>doesn't know what VA is

>>1735309
If that isn't literally the the embodiment of a child putting his fingers in his ears i don't know what is.

>>1735309
Do you have the fullscreen one of Eric's reply? I've only got the five initial screencaps which are a pain in the ass to post

>>1735138
>The Raid
YESSSSSS.

What are some good weapon mods for 10x.Wad? Besides Brutal Doom and Russian Overkill.

>>1735138
>>1735348
>The Raid: Redemption
that's the movie that had tons of fights in sweatpants right

>>1735130
>non FPS vidya remade in the Doom engine
Einhänder
>non videogame property done in the Doom engine
TMNT

>>1735343
bwoop

>>1735323
>Why... why are you afraid of that? Of all things?
Well, my older brother once tied me up to a chair with a cable and stuffed me with raw cauliflower until vomiting and it was funny, so some other day he did that while exposing me to the age of screamers passed between co-workers in workplace net. I was like 8. Now I can't go to sleep without completely unplugging the computer before bed because anxiety levels go over 9000 and I often have internet screamer dreams including ASCII screamers. I've also never played any horror games. Ghoul's Forest's author is probably a nice guy but to me is worse than Sergeant Mark. I dumped a girlfriend because it turned out she was a screamer in bed. Can you guess which racing game franchise was ruined for me? Yep.

Anyway, just imagine the notion that you've supposedly turned off the computer, and it's supposed to not work anymore, but it's still dormant and it's speaking to you, by popping up a glowing text all of a sudden. Now imagine that at a late hour, all alone. It's still humming. I can't know if it's not setting up a trap.

Weirdly enough, Revenants don't freak me out.

>>1735319
;_;

>>1735074
>>1735196
>>1735274
>>1735309
>>1735354
I can understand that Mark has truly acted like a dickhead, but judging from his posts that he's done here in the past few months, he really seems like he's redeemed himself. So I hope the aim of those posts isn't to spark up new drama with old drama.

>>1735317
Okay this may seem back-handedly asswerd but I would enjoy a multiplayer Hunger Games mod.

>>1735359
It's like you didn't even read the PM.

>>1735354
Thanks

>>1735310
Actually now I have another problem
For some reason when I try and use a resolutions besides the default the text either disappears or gets all glitchy

>>1735358

Well, uh, shit.
Sorry, man.

>>1735359
This goes SHOULD go without saying, but for some reason people are stupid

Just report shitposters on sight.

>>1735362
I did.

>>1735359
I only intend to inform. Mark's definitely been better-behaved as of late, and I hope it continues. I also hope that he takes something away from this, if nothing else - that Eric didn't get him banned, as he apparently believes. Another user brought the thread to BlazingPhoenix's attention after it had already been locked, and he wasn't feeling as lenient as wildweasel was.

>>1735358
>I dumped a girlfriend because it turned out she was a screamer in bed
Sorry, but I had to laugh at that.

But... how does that related to the shutoff screen?
Also, have you considered therapy for this? You sound very neurotic about it.

>>1735376
shit, I WAY misread your post.

Sincerest apologies, I'll delete with permission.

>>1735367
pls respond

>>1735384
I'm afraid of electricity running at night and the shutoff screen just appears extremely menacing. I even had dreams where the shutoff screen would turn into something out of a /b/ gore thread the moment I attempted to turn it off.

Doctors don't work in this country.

...I'm sorry that this turned into such a blogpost. No matter which way you swing it, I'm a doomy for allowing this to happen.

>>1735358
>Can you guess which racing game franchise was ruined for me?
Uhh... Carmageddon?

>>1735424

>>1735426
Huh... Never heard of it before. Judging from some gameplay footage, it looks like Ridge Racer but for PC. Pretty neat. And I can sort of understand why it was ruined for you, with a name like that.

>>1735315
>>1735358
>>1735402

lol what in the fuck? you sound clinically insane

>>1735402
You really do sound nuts man. If I were you I'd make an attempt to fix it instead of avoiding it.

Also...
>Well, my older brother once tied me up to a chair with a cable and stuffed me with raw cauliflower until vomiting and it was funny.

wut

Hey GMOTA Guy, this isn't supposed to happen, right?

Please excuse the laughably awful quality. They video recorder doesn't seem to agree with gzdoom, and I can't into webm.[\spoiler]