/vr/ - Retro Games

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NEWS
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-Doom 4 Trailer here. It's damn true. http://youtu.be/0C4F1h-HSXU.. Further details will be shown at Quakecon.

-Don't forget to (re)watch this year's Summer Games Done Quick, as it featured Doom 64 and an Ultimate Doom race!. The past AGDQ featured Plutonia (Go 2 It included) and a Doom 2 race. To rewatch said games, see this link http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLQcxg3SUqlYBoSYrpNJVu58GsoCXMREa1..

-Doom 2: In Name Only represents everyone's wishes of playing the Doom 2 maps in a more literal way. It just got an /idgames link now! Check the thread here. http://www.doomworld.com/vb/post/1124737

-Metroid Dreadnought IS OUT! GO GET DEM TUUUBES - http://zandronum.com/forum/showthread.php?tid=4561&pid=61847#pid61847

-Also The Space Pirate got an update! Check the latest ver. here! https://drive.google.com/file/d/0BxbbtKR5bll_anFPaVhUQVZqcnM/edit?usp=sharing And be sure to check this tutorial http://youtu.be/mrFF8LCZw5Y

-Some anons are doing a 200 min. speedmapping challenge; vanilla compatible (Doom 2 format), no custom textures and MUST be done in 200 mins and have an exit; ask in the thread f/details!

-Wanna see John Romero deathmatching in 2014? This happened at GDC http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLXkipPv0b4KMKE7z3WwlYYUCDLACNoYfE..

-HDoom has its 5th techdemo! happy now? http://www.best-ever.org/download?file=m12-hdoom-techdemo5.pk3

Mods that also got updated

Hideous Destructor - http://forum.zdoom.org/viewtopic.php?t=12973
Pirate Doom - http://forum.zdoom.org/viewtopic.php?t=32674
DoomRL Arsenal - http://forum.zdoom.org/viewtopic.php?t=37044


ATTENTION! If you know about something news-worthy, PLEASE reply to this post so everyone can see it

I think I speak for the rest of /vr/ when I say we would all appreciate it if you contained your ridiculous copypastes to the 2nd or subsequent posts in a thread. They really make pages unpleasant to view with all these general threads now.

>>1721354

You don't speak for the rest of /vr/.
Sorry, mate.

>>1721360
Do NOT respond.

>>1721354
> what is hiding threads

>>1721339

What does /vr/ think of Complex Doom?

>>1721363

>your post being made less than a minute compared to the shitpost

this is getting ridiculous

>>1721372
>what if we took brutal doom
>and added hard doom
>and removed quality

>>1721372

It's basically a Ripoff of Hard doom with stupidly OP enemies, but this is just my opinion

Played through the 200 minute map wad. Surprised at the quality, most of the maps were pretty good. Playing some short easy maps is a nice change of pace from all the giant hard as fuck megawads I've been playing recently as well.

The two Cheesewheel maps were great, have you done any other wads?

I haven't made a doom map in ages but I think it safe to say I prefer making tech levels to ye old castle and marble levels.

I may give up on this one

>>1721340
SO MANY SPEEDRUNS TO WATCH FUUUUUCK

wait so dime lost
what the hell

>>1721378
I can honestly second this right here
that and add to the factor of stuff having reloading and well what's the point on making a difficulty mod that's harder than hard doom and then giving the player a strap on to attempt to kill a bunch of blatantly OP monsters that can kill you before you can even swing said strap on, it just feels as if people who make difficulty mods now (or at least this one) don't understand what fairness in a difficulty mod is hoped into one server with it one day alone and it wasn't a challenge it was nothing more than getting ezmodedand on that note I have to say fuck the diabloist too

>>1721408

he is the holder of the WORLD FUCKING RECORD for UV-Speed in Plutonia. FUCKING PLUTONIA

http://doomedsda.us/wad946m240.html
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5vKyyipo3IM <<<- And this isn't even the current WR

All I'm waiting for is for twitch's retarded VOD to downgrade to a decent quality to rewatch the race.

>>1721389
that looks cool though

>>1721429

Mmhm.

>>1721442
you aren't carmack go home

I want the door to open when the arachnotron is defeated. How would I go about that?

Repeating my question from last thread:

Is there no way to get Metroid Dreadnought to work on GZDoom? I got the latest version from SVN but it doesn't load the game properly (Doesn't load samus up as the player at all.)

>>1721465
If you're in Vanilla Doom, you fucking don't, because there are only a handful of specific levels that do stuff like that, and the only one that centers around Arachnotrons is in Map07, and even then it only lowers a platform the length of its sidedef textures

If you're in Hexen in Doom format or UDMF, just use ACS it's super quick to do that kinda shit

>>1721469
No, there isn't. It relies on Zandro's console cvar shit or something that G/ZDoom doesn't have

>>1721469
Wait what

It totally should work. The hell broke?

>>1721384
Yeah. Was a pretty good challenge. Still is if the current coordinator isn't going to add his map in. (Though I feel like he aught to, if it was under 200 minutes. Get some representation in there).

Anywho... It's getting close to finished now. We could always do another sometime. Maybe with a theme

>>1721476
>>1721483

I got the whole download, deleted the .svn files from it and zipped it up, then changed to PK3,

If you think there's anything wrong I did, let me know.

As for errors, nothing popped up.

>>1721492
when you open it up, are all the mod files and folders in the root or did you zip up the svn folder holding them all as well?

MetroidMap Current Build:

https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/20454382/MetroidMap-v1.3c.wad

Small updates
1. Added ice beam
2. Fixed some minor texture problems

Map intro https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cKku3msRi_c

To do:
1. Expand abandoned federation base sector

Let me know if you guys come across any bugs, and if you want me to add some extra things

Continuing a discussion in the previous thread about DoomRPG, I agree with the anon who said it had too many features. Don't get me wrong (since I know the author checks these threads) it's all impressive but it just sorely needs a WAD to be actually built around it. At the end of the day you're not so much shoe-horning as industrial piston ramming a complex system into levels that were designed to be beatable with the base doomguy. You can only do so much with random item and monster replacements before it becomes meaningless.

Right now it just feels like number-porn where you play it alot just to see a bunch of numbers grow higher. It's extremely similar to Naferia's reign (although not as insane) down to using D3's menu sounds as well (at least it fits here) I was never too harsh on that mod because the author was clearly doing what he wanted rather than what anybody else did which was commendable but ultimately meant his mod would be incredibly incredibly niche.

Still though, keep working on it if you enjoy it. Just don't be disapointed if it only attracts a small core audience.

>>1721473
ACS to do somehing as simple as this?
Just give the monster an action special...

>>1721486
How many maps are still missing?

>>1721503
>action special
How do you do that in Doom Builder?

>>1721497

Excuse my ignorance, but the root folder?

>>1721515
Root, as in the base, as in what you see when you first open up the PK3. Is it full of a bunch of different folders and text files, or are they all contained in a single folder?

>>1721469
>I got the latest version from SVN

You don't need that.

http://www.best-ever.org/download?file=metroiddreadnought-v1.pk3
http://www.best-ever.org/download?file=metroiddreadnought-levels-v1.pk3

Download, load up, and enjoy.

>>1721476

Also this guy is a lying faggot.

>>1721520

There was a PK3 folder in there but I pulled the files from that to the main Metroid folder

http://forum.zdoom.org/viewtopic.php?f=15&t=46162

>they seriously said "no" to this

Jesus. Is there anything they DO accept?

>>1721440
thanks, gives me encourage to finish it

>>1721523

I tried that one before, didn't work (Got a bad syntax error)

The /newstuff Chronicles #453
http://www.doomworld.com/php/topstory.php?id=4131

Worry not, as this edition is free of bullshit

>>1721529

WE WARNED YOU BRO
[falling through stairs intensifies]

>>1721532

That means your GZDoom is outdated.

http://devbuilds.drdteam.org/gzdoom/ - Here.

>>1721534

I don't get the issue. It would create HUD inconsistencies if it was turned on, but that's why it should be an option.

>>1721372
it works alright if youre doing coop with a lot of people online but on sp its awful. the whole thing feels really badly put together and the enemies give you like zero time to react and can easily kill toy instantly

>>1721498
Gettin' even better.

Any plans to do anything with this section, or gonna keep it like it is for ambience's sake? Seems really weird to have an area with just just nothing in it.

>>1721540
>toy
*you. how'd i even make that typo

>>1721545
each letter is one button to the left of the one you intended to press

>>1721547
except for o

>>1721536

Issue fixed, thanks!

>you can rocketjump with super missiles in metrood

welp
time to fly

>>1721486
yeah, i was thinking the same thing, we should brainstorm for a good theme and start putting it together after the 200 minute wad is officially finished

>>1721547
its just weird that i accidentally spelled out an actual word

>>1721560

how do you use missles anyways?

I wish there was a readme on what button does what.

I played Chex Quest 2 on a Windows 98 Machine, a Windows 98 Virtual Machine, and Dosbox. What I noticed with level 1 is the game crashes upon open the red door ONLY in dosbox (also tried chocolate-doom since it is supposed to be just like dos doom, same effect); in the VM the game just slowed down while the door was opening, and on the machine nothing abnormal happened. Anybody know why?

>>1721542
>>1721498

I take back what I said, you sneaky clever bastard.

>>1721570
Alt-fire.

Hold it down for Super Missiles when you hear a click.

>>1721570
Hit F1.
And missiles are alt-fire.

>>1721503
Maybe one, but there's a map to fill the void I think.

>>1721563
Could be fun. Sector limits, time limits, size limits, no limits. I wouldn't worry about it for a bit though. /vr/ might be a bit burnt out atm. A lot of people have other projects kicking too.

>>1721529
Graf always has reasons. They're usually a bullshit excuse for him to not fucking do anything though.

>>1721572
I see you didn't find the ice beam, I take pride in my secrets

>>1721581
NIGGER.
I'm loving all these secrets.

Also after picking up the Space Jump it seems the door leading to the Space Jump gets locked.

>>1721571
>that gun in his right hand
I never understood why they didn't have that in the game in the first place, I mean just looking at the pistol and then looking at that gun every time just makes me feel like it was wasted potential but then again they probably wouldn't have found the right sounds for it though

>>1721529
Let me be the first to point out that the messages being on the bottom is actually a crappy idea, because it covers up weapon graphics and the play field while the top doesn't. It'll also look retarded after you pick up 4 things in a row.

>>1721585
really?, It was supposed to unlock after you kill the cybie, it locks when you enter it so you wont jump out during the boss battle, thanks for letting me know about it

>>1721591

Might be worth mentioning that I'm coming from the outside to in, rather than going from the inside to out.

>>1721590
Let me be the first to point at that is specifically said one message at a time, and that it would be optional anyway.

>>1721389
That actually doesn't look bad at all, you shouldn't trash it. I might have used different textures myself, but that's only because I was never too fond of those huge gray bricks, the layout and shape looks great either way.

>>1721486
How's that going anyway? How many levels are done? Are sky textures replaced? Are there new music tracks?

I'm kind of excited about it, but I'm holding off until it's finished to play it.

>>1721606
All, or nearly all levels are done. New sky textures. Some levels have changed music (authors discretion, though I'd personally like to see them all switched out). New secret levels (though I could understand Sneek being switched out if someone were to make a better one, since it's premise relies on modern source ports it is vanilla compat though). Anddddd-d-d-d-d-d-d. That's about it. Pretty much finished, just some tweaks and polish.

>>1721372
>>1721372
While everyone seems to have negative opinions of it - I don't know what this is, anyone got a link to the mod? (I did google, got like 1209381 unrelated results, refine spoonfeed me plx)

>>1721616
>>1721616
Also what the fuck is linking posts I click, then delaying about 8 seconds, and linking it again? Is 4chanX taking a shit? This has been going on for a while

>>1721585

Who made that level pack? was it MetroidLevels v1.3?

>>1721590

psx doom does one message at a time.

>>1721589
it would have been the sound of John Romero's asshole

>>1721613
>>1721606
>>1721486
Speakng of 200 minute challenge, and music...

Use this for Brutto.
http://www.mediafire.com/download/i6mhi4dgdby4ddn/wirfuhle.mid
stolen from http://ingeb.org - some German site that I suspect of being for white supremacy or something...

>>1721498
>that filesize

Man, what've you got in he

>open up
>uncompressed mp3s
>mfw

Nigga let me introduce you to the magic of SPC format.
So you got six songs, coming together to 26 megs, right? About 21 minutes in length, good quality?

BAM, HERE'S THE SPC SOUNDTRACK
RIPPED DIRECTLY FROM THE GAME, SO THE EXACT SAME QUALITY AS THE SNES TRACKS
NOT ONLY THAT, BUT THEY GO ON FOREVER. YOU DON'T HAVE TO WORRY ABOUT FADING OUT AT THE END AND RESTARTING FROM THE BEGINNING, THEY DON'T STOP
AND YOU KNOW WHAT?
ALL TOGETHER THEY COME TO ABOUT 387 KILOBYTES

PEACE

https://www.dropbox.com/s/omumx04j3vez0gv/ClosetMapGuyMusic.rar

>>1717878

>>1721640
wow thanks dude

Daily reminder to watch the best thing IGN has ever done
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YUU7_BthBWM

How could he not ask Romero about the Doom movie FFS?[/spoiler}

>>1721640

Here's the map with the SPC format songs, thanks again.


..and if its okay with you, mind doing the other songs in SPC format too?

>>1721683
whoops

https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/20454382/MetroidMap-v1.3d.wad

>>1721683
Can do, just tell me what songs you got in mind.

How do I set up ZDL to work in LAN? I mean, this new version doesn't even have the "join" option in the multi settings

>>1721689
these mostly

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aQilMOq8Smk

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5eZAkvWxhUw

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7tw8qhFyNzo

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8J_HnuFYFqg

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tBxCtrnKgEY

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TMmwIk9L7I0

and this

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OL3QV8_sSs0

Pretty much the whole soundtrack.

>>1721498
I wonder if Terminus should know that the red beam, weapon 3, is awful at opening doors.

>>1721715
>pretty much the whole soundtrack

Done.
https://www.dropbox.com/s/cre9ue8kwr0z4eo/ClosetMusicGuy.rar

I even included a few extras in case you feel like being a clever dick

>>1721735
thanks man, give me your clever dick instead~

Anyone know the time when they started the Doom runs on the official SGDQ twitch page? The Youtube link just gives me an invalid parameters error.

>>1721718
Well, the door system I'm working on extremely lazily responds well to beams - a bit too well, even; a missile shot not even glancing it will still trigger a door if it's close enough, due to the explosion.

I suppose that's better than "not responsive enough", though, especially given it can do beam/weapon-specific doors (tested: normal door, missile door, spazer door, power bomb door).

>>1721718
How close are you? Plasma beam has extremely short range.

>>1721686
>no secrets to be found by bombjumping up these TUBES
:(

>>1721498
Found a few oddities.

1. The caution tape in the southeast corner of the map deals lava damage. They're the two strips on either side of the three pillars across the pit.

2. You can get caught between the invisible wall and the chain fence in the waterfall area if you hop over a column from the other side (the one across from the door by the Cacos).

3. The control box in the crate room is positioned from the wall in a way that looks like you can squeeze past it… but Samus is 2fat, so you end up having to jump over. It's really nitpicky, but could enough space be made to walk past?

4. Does anyone else get these weird rain splashes falling from the ceiling in the starting hallway? (pic related)

Also, I know there are already a couple secrets in that area, but I wonder if you could tuck a secret way down in the waterfall chasm, only accessible with Space Jump, or in the Pain Elemental cubby, also accessible with Space Jump (or Spring/Boost Ball, depending on your method)?


Keep up the good work! I really like how the lava area turned out, especially the boss room. Really impressive stuff made in such a short time.

>>1721796
>Samus is 2fat

Am I a plebeian if I'm finding Plutonia and TNT pretty difficult?
I don't know if monster damage was buffed, but even a far ranged shotgun blast can be devastating. Not to say that I don't love the difficulty spike, It just seems a lot tougher even on "Hurt me Plenty".

>>1721762
It randomly opens and closes them. It's luck whether I can get through.

I was playing >>1721498 and had trouble with the first door. I cheated to get the weapon.

>>1721813
I cant say they didnt buff Hurt me Plenty difficulty, but on Ultra-Violence there are no changes.

>>1721792
wow I didnt think of that, I'll put in more secrets in 1.4

>>1721796

1. The caution tape in the southeast corner of the map deals lava damage. They're the two strips on either side of the three pillars across the pit.

a fix will be ez pz.

>2. You can get caught between the invisible wall and the chain fence in the waterfall area if you hop over a column from the other side (the one across from the door by the Cacos).

I still need to lrn how 2 do fences, but i'll just make it impassable for now.

>3. The control box in the crate room is positioned from the wall in a way that looks like you can squeeze past it… but Samus is 2fat, so you end up having to jump over. It's really nitpicky, but could enough space be made to walk past?

I'll move it just a bit, you can always jump ogre it

>4. Does anyone else get these weird rain splashes falling from the ceiling in the starting hallway?

Terminus has to fix that one.

Thanks for these finds dude, as for the secrets, I'll what i can do

>>1721823
t-thanks terminus

What is /vr/'s opinion on Terry-style WADs?

And which ones are the best/worst ones you've seen?

>>1721571
>virtual reality
Did the makers of that packaging know what virtual reality is?

>>1721860
>The 90s

No

>>1721860
at the time it was virtual reality

>>1721847

Terminus can't into webms.

So, is there some complicated technical hurdle that makes it difficult to code a functional PC source port with split screen multiplayer? Honest question; I'm a layman at best.

I know that the port for Xbox 360 and the console versions of BFG edition have splitscreen Doom and Doom 2, but why are Doom Legacy (which crashes arbitrarily, has weird sound issues, and controller support has to be adjusted with the console) and Remood (barely playable, no sound) the only PC ports for people with IRL friends?

>>1721891
Just LAN it

>>1721891
Well you can run multiple instances of G/ZDoom on one computer and have them connect to each other with the initial one being the host and the others connecting to 127.0.0.1

However I dunno if there's a way to enable it so the games can receive input when they don't have focus.

>>1721891
>PC
>Splitscreen
Why would you even?

>update doom RPG through the launcher
>my old characters dont work now
do I have update RLA too or what?

>>1721902
Not everyone owns a proper PC. Even when they do, it can be a nightmare to fix someone else's computer enough to run a LAN game properly. I NEVER have a LAN game go smoothly when a new PC is involved, and I ALWAYS have to troubleshoot problems on other people's computers to make it work.

>>1721914
Most people these days have TVs that will accept video from a PC. Most of Id's shooters have an official console port with splitscreen multiplayer. Why wouldn't it make sense to want to play Doom with friends on a couch on a TV with user WADs? And half of a huge HDTV is still bigger than my laptop screen.

>>1721932
huh... I always roll a new char..

>>1721907
Also I have spent many frustrating hours on this Only one window can have focus at a time in Windows.

>>1721891
>So, is there some complicated technical hurdle that makes it difficult to code a functional PC source port with split screen multiplayer? Honest question; I'm a layman at best.

Yes.
The short of the matter is that Doom was designed under the assumption that there would be only one player on a PC, and so much of the technology relies on only one client observing it.

The reason why Remood and Legacy are so buggy is because they've essentially had to rewrite Doom's rendering behavior completely in order to accommodate for the fact that one client can be going in completely opposite directions.

>>1721949
Okay, that makes sense, but now I'm even more curious as to why the console BFG edition has split screen and the PC BFG edition doesn't.

>>1721959
Because consoles have multiple controllers, and PCs are normally found to have one keyboard and mouse.

>>1721932
How do you keep characters through runs of DRPG?

>>1721946
I know there are some emulators that allow input even when the window doesn't have focus, so I'm sure it could be implemented into G/ZDoom. Though I dunno how difficult such a thing could be or if there's some program that can add such functionality to programs.

>>1721965
Is this actually a technical hurdle preventing PC splitscreen, or are you trying to be clever about not liking controllers? Because PCs these days support a number of USB controllers, and modern Doom source ports allow you to use these controllers.

If you are just hating on controller use, I at least hope you have equal or greater bile for keyboard-only, since it would be silly for obvious reasons to rate the precision of keyboard-only over that of a controller.

how do i level design? All i can make are big ugly box rooms. Are there any guides on making good levels?

Doom 64 speedrun

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hmh5jd3-kwM&list=PLOE7rEpfA-rHbgHtPEPpZMn7sDnnW02I6&t=8929s

This is an approximate for the beginning of the Heretic speedrun, after that, the Ultimate Doom race takes place

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CyJFXE-83DM&list=PLOE7rEpfA-rHbgHtPEPpZMn7sDnnW02I6&t=13049

>>1722001
you're doing god's work son

>>1721997
stop making box rooms maybe?

>>1721959

That's the big mystery, yes.
And unfortunately, Zenimax/Bethesda/new-id aren't going to be releasing the source code any time soon, so all we can do is just hazard some guesses.

>>1721996
It's not a technical hurdle, but it IS a reason behind the lack of split screen. When most people think "PC FPS", they think KB+M. And when people think KB+M, they think singular KB and singular M.

>>1721994
Non-focused control can be done, but it has to be coded into the game. I know of a couple more recent PC shooters that can achieve split screen or multiple monitor 2-player, but it is a feature of the game that is activated with game-specific command line arguments and possibly a sandbox to run the second instance. I don't have any idea how feasible or difficult it would be to implement this in an existing source port.

>>1721996
I know serious sam : FE allowed split screen (up to 16 players if I remember). It might be more of the fact it would be a lot of work for little payoff to implement split screen feature for doom.

>>1722001
Cool, just finished watching some of the vids in the playlist.

So I just stuck all my doom stuff on to my new laptop, was gonna take it for a test drive after getting all my settings right, but when I get into the game, it looks fuck ugly. Pic related. I also noticed that "Shaders" is now missing from my OpenGL settings. What do I do?

>>1722009
>>1722010
To be honest, the best way to do it would be to just create a shell utility that ran two or more instances of the game and passed input from the designated control devices to the selected instance and passed audio/video to the selected output devices.

>>1721997

Look at areas around you, look at areas in games. Study them intently. Break them down into basic shapes and see how they're arranged.
Try and replicate those shapes.

The best teacher is research and practice.

>>1722017
Actually, this screenshot illustrates it a bit better.

It just looks really ugly, Im not sure what setting to change.

>>1722017
>>1722024
>looks fuck ugly

I'm not sure what the problem is, it looks fine to me. A little dark on the brightness, but otherwise nice.
What did it look like beforehand?

Here's is what I've done about heretic, it isn't complete, but it's going to take a loong time to be
http://www.mediafire.com/download/91cbia1k6q03av6/Veretic_1.0.pk3

There's no weapons included cause I hope other people do it and learn from it

>>1722027
...This is fucking bizarre. I'm looking at the screenshots on my old laptop now, and it looks perfectly normal. On the new laptop they look really shitty, as though I have open GL turned off and fucked around with the gamma, the colors are all muddy and stuff.

>>1721973
bamp

>>1721813
Monster behavior and stats are all the same, as are weapons, the maps are just designed to fuck you in the ass harder, shotgunners taking potshots at you, frequent use of Arch-Viles, revenants agitating you all the time, etc.

I think the map sets have very nice atmospheres though, really makes up for a lot of Final Doom's shortcomings.

>>1722043
how about you read the damn op in the doomrpg thread

I have bad memory or nobody has talked about Super Shotkun so far?

Well, this is awkward, ZDoom 2.7.1 for Heretic...

>>1722067
SSG is too busy murdering to talk.

Alright, I got a problem. I wanted to try and make a player skin out of one of the enemies in the Tartaru3 WAD, the Pyro Succubus. When I mentioned this during a livestream, Terminus suggested I use SLAD3 to help.
I did this, and after asking in the IRC chat, I decided to try and cheat a bit by looking into a different skin wad I have, specifically ST_Doom64Guy, and replace the relevant files: Replacing the graphics of the 64guy skin with the Pyro graphics (after being told to convert the graphics into PNG), as well as the specific sounds I wanted. I looked into the "skindef" file that was at the top, and wrote down the specific changes that I made, i.e. the name of the sound file used for the D64 guy death with the Pyro's death sound file.
I then saved my work as a new wad, and set it into my skin folder.
Thing is, it's not showing up AT ALL when I play a wad. And I don't know why.

>>1722078
Since it's H-Doom he don't murders he just fucks around.

>>1721571
The perspective on that Nickerson looks all wrong. It looks like a headless man with a face on his torso, not a hunched-over demon like they are in-game.

...and ChocoDoom for Kubelwagon, and CompDoom for Dime.

A couple of people got worried about them doing the race with zDoom, BUT since we never heard the secret area jingle and they pretty much did the E2M6 skip which is impossible to get in a non-vanilla port, it is safe to say they did this in a proper way

So alas, a shitstorm was prevented!

>>1721851
>Best
Attomic attack,it's basically UACMN for starters and it's better than UACMN
>Worst
wow.wad

>>1722031
Before downloading and playing,loading heretic with woc+hexercise will do any changes?

>smooth doom

Yes a bunch of these totally feel like they're in slow mo.

>>1722031
Holy shit that looks like a fucking Minecraft book, boxels are fail.

>>1722174
You just wait until HD voxel models are a thing
>minecraft
You say it like if Minecraft invented voxels

>>1722129

AND DIME ACTUALLY WON THE THING! Whoever told me he lost is going to get his ass whooped

Highlights (spoilers for obvious reasons)

-Dime gets the E1M8 skip, which has to do with you straferunning perfectly towards the teleporter in a way which helps you to "jump" towards it thanks to the lowering wall meeting the floor (more info: http://doomwiki.org/wiki/E1M8#Routes_and_tricks))
-Both of them -like I said before- get the E2M6 skip with no issues at all; it is a little bit hard to explain but if you watch the race the dude in the couch pretty much explains it in a perfect way. There's also a cool skip I didn't know about which involves picking up the Invulnerability and doing a precise rocket jump in E2M7
-They both don't get to oneshot a Mastermind at all; Dime gets in trouble with the Ep3 Mastermind but he maintains his pace and advantage against Kubel; remember, this trick is harder to get in vanilla compared to ZDoom because of BLOCKMAP fixes that the latter has

I'm putting them in the /doom/ playlist pretty soon, so be sure to bookmark it (it's in the news post)

>>1722185
>spoiling everything up to the result
>not actually spoiling the result itself

Why are you such a tremendous shithead?

>>1722052
I don't browse other forums for doom man, it's enough of a pain to keep up with this. Mayhaps a link?

>>1722190

http://forum.zdoom.org/viewtopic.php?t=33292

>>1722185
Kewl.
Add it fast I'm running out of shit to watch.

>>1722192
Oh. Sorry for the snarktastic response, I kinda thought you meant like, some obscure forum they have for DRPG.

My bad. Reading in depth.

>>1722197
>>1722192
I'm actually still not seeing how to keep a persistent character through multiple .wads either

>>1722197
>>1722204
Not the same guy, I don't play Doom RPG so I'm afraid I don't know. I just typed "Doom RPG" into google, got the forum link, and pasted it here.

It's possible the other anon is just being a dick and there isn't a good answer yet.

Always run: Y/N?
>>1722197
>>1722204
You gotta save in the Outpost I think.

>>1722217
Oddly, the game hasn't been letting me tele back to outpost since last update, thought that was 'cuz the fucked up .wads I was playing though

>>1721339

Why is Doom so based?

>>1722223
Sometimes levels can get quite disorientating to be honest.

>>1722217
Y
Gotta go fast.

>>1722225
But that's planned man, on the contrary newer FPSes make it look like the map is enormous while really it's lineal as --------- <-this.

Oh no, did I miss Quake, Doom, and Metroid on AGDQ?

>>1722258
Yes yes and yes.

Metroid was nothing but turboglitching really.

>>1722259
Kill the Animals runs are always shit IMO, Saving the animals means they have to actually play the damn game.

>>1722185
good for him. i tried to do that in my e1 speedruns here, and missed both times...

Yeah, I can't teleport to base in DRPG, what the hell is going on

>>1722259
TURBO glitching? But that's the best kind of glitching!

>>1721813
as i understand it, plutonia in particular was designed by two players who explicitly felt the original game was not a challenge for them.

>>1722279
>>1722279
Any reason why that would show up red?

>>1722258
You know you can just google the schedule, right?

>>1722223
Thing is unlike DOOM it's a modern spunkgargleweewee title, it's not because of DOOM being based but because of the fact that the gameplay of DOOM is much different than spunkgargleweewee shooters these days.
DOOM is based around getting monsters to work correctly on how they work and function together, now take away all the depth that DOOM has and have only hitscan enemies, now take the laziness of the developers of spunkgargleweewee shooters and there you go, that's where the linearity comes from, lazy devs who don't care about the single player experience and only care about the multiplayer experience that most of their fanbase only cares about.
Also because of the way that spunkgargleweewee shooters are there isn't much reason to have secrets as well as items in the game, which leads to more shallow of a map design, you regenerate health already so there's no need for health kits, ammo is supplied in however the hell it is as well, and it's given to you in a massive supply, and to add onto this you can only have two weapons, so with that in mind there's even more reason not to have map design done better, because there aren't any items to work around with the player with, the player is given the weapons when they need them anyway instead of having to search for the weapons or any item for that matter anyway.6

>>1722223
>>1722225
Speaking of map size.

Here's something I'm working on now. It's not fuckhuge (yet), but what I'm mainly going for is density and exploration. Every room so far has multiple ways in or out. the idea is to have no keycards in the map and let you just wander about at will till you find the exit/further than that. Does this sound like something that might be fun?

It's not "entirety of new york" huge, but it's getting pretty big.

>>1722329
Sounds awesome, but Keycards and Secrets do give more of an incentive to explore

>>1722329
I'd like to see a whole 32 map wad of really complex levels like TUTNT etc... You can make pseudolinear levels compelling too.

>>1722334
I like options, mazes can be fun, but honestly I find switch hunting and keycard stuff to be boring a lot of the time it's used in maps.

>however, sometimes, when it's correctly used to gate encounters, or do something fun
>then it's pretty boss

>>1722334
There are secrets. Just no keycards.

It's called Agoraphobos... It's to be a counter-level to another map called Claustrophilia. So the idea that it's open ended and continuous is supposed to feel daunting... I'm considering other ways to make it feel this way. We'll see how it turns out. Been trying to theme my maps in this little wad I'm making... Been at it for almost a year now though on and off. No rush.

>>1721635
added, thanks

>>1721613
this is an accurate summation. i'd prefer to keep sneek, i like it, it is still "different" from a normal map (normal, where you just start killing immediately) even if the intentional use of the partial invisibilities is unavailable.

>>1721578
indeed, i must admit i wouldn't want to start compiling another one immediately. my other interests are being neglected.

>>1721486
to be honest i gave up and added it anyway, even though i am certain some players are going to call it a troll map, or otherwise be so frustrated to spit vitriol onto the board, as has happened with a couple of other maps already.

>>1722329
that looks great, is it for boom or zdoom?

Ok,here is the deal with Metroid dread

Put Remembuh me guy in the game as playable character and his alt form is the old trapezoid morphball

>>1722346
zdoom. I'll probably try to test it in boom and see if I can get it funtioning, but at this point it probably relies on too many zdoomisms in at least one map.

Might work fine though. Not sure yet. I got back into mapping after some years just a bit ago, and just started running with zdoom and damned the consequences. Sorry if that's an issue :-p

>>1722272
Do you have a link to a Kill the Animals run? I'd like to see what one looks like and I can't find any on youtube

>>1722337
>>1722343
Well the way keycards could be set up in this map wouldn't be obtuse or anything, just run through the map and see what the most common or obvious paths are, then put Keydoors or bars across other paths that will draw attention to them, and then when players get the keycard their attention is drawn back to those areas they passed and they can continue exploring.

But since the point of the map is apparently to overwhelm players with a huge explorable area, I can see this running counter to it.

Goddamn I've been too busy as of late. I have yet to work on GMOTA anymore fellas, but I do have something kinda nice on the way thanks to the artist of those goofy Doom monsters images you see floating around.

I'm probably gonna commission her more in the future for more /vr/ Doom related shit like skeletons

>>1722353

>fucked up the spoiler tags

GOD DAMN IT

>>1722350
pretty much every GDQ Super Metroid ends up being Kill the Animals. It just means they sequence break past a certain point, and it contributes more to the game being a completely glitched mess

>>1722353
but why, gmote guy
why

>>1722354
If it's any consolation, it looks kinda cool.

>>1722358

Because I've got a boner for you guys.

>>1722352
Yeah. Maybe key cards for pointless areas, or just extra "oh neat a rocket launcher" type stuff. I dunno yet. If I do have keycards, they won't be for any necessary paths...

>>1722348

This is actually the plan, if I can figure out a viable method.

>>1722353
>thanks to the artist of those goofy Doom monsters images

Wait you've been commissioning Alice?
Ohhhh shit

>>1722373
>Halo pistol

>>1722354
What were you trying to do?

Something like this?

skeletons

>>1722387
it's actually something like this

skeleton

RATTLE ME BONES

>>1722289 (me)
found the reference.

>Plutonia was always meant for people who had finished Doom2 on hard and were looking for a new challenge. I always played through the level I had made on hard, and if I could beat it too easily, I made it harder, so it was a challenge for me. I don't have a lot of sympathy for someone who plays Plutonia on hard skill and complains it's too hard. I had a lot of mail from people who had never even tried the easy skill setting because they "only play on hard". However, if someone does play Plutonia on easy and still finds it too hard, play Evilution through, and you should be ready to play Plutonia...

http://5years.doomworld.com/interviews/dariocasali/page2.shtml

>>1722394
Man, I haven't done this in a while. Did Moot nerf nested spoilertags when I wasn't looking?

BBLLAUCEK

>>1722380

Close, but no cigar.

>>1722373
this is important
will i be able to call enemies punks and say they have no style

basically i'm asking to be a black duke nukem

skel
etons

>>1722408
Shtawp.

the agitation will never cease

>>1722376

No no, not Alice, this artist

>>1722376
I played with Alice once. She called me a devil worshiper, and a communist. Japanese people are weird.

I don't really mind though, that's just cultural differences. I still think she's cool.

>>1722407

On the one hand, this goes completely against the thematic tone and atmosphere of Metroid.
On the other hand http://vocaroo.com/i/s09bybSZpe55

new 200 minute mapping test build

http://temp-host.com/download.php?file=jg94ut

--

- complete roster. first build without the placeholder map. (i'll miss it, it took 200 minutes to make. (not really))

- all maps have titles, thanks to those of you who suggested them.

- map10 and map31 have music submitted by author

- map20 no longer has a death exit, since the following map gives you almost all your weapons back again immediately, i didn't see the point

- map06: replace 30s door with fast door + alcove switch (door can also be opened from inside)

- map26 (200minsofhell): add a way out of an otherwise inescapable lava death pit

- map07: if the tag667 platform rises too far due to the arachnotron death race condition, you can now press on it to lower it. this has a side effect that you can't just run past the arachnotrons and press the exit switch early (the switch platform was too small to prevent this, but surrounding it with special lines eats the keypresses...)

- several sound tunnels and monster teleporter holding areas hidden from automap

- yet more endless fiddling of the map order. i'm trying to balance several variables which contradict each other, i don't think i'll ever be completely happy with it.

--

stuff still to do, maybe:

- add at least 4 co-op and 4 dm starts to every level; currently 10 maps have co-op starts and only 1 has dm starts.

- find all the incorrectly-pegged door tracks, and fix them.

mostly full list of wad compiler edits: http://sprunge.us/WEOi

>>1722478
>Demon H.Q.

Didn't someone mention here that this one was awesome?

>>1722478
Lol. Just played Map30 and the monster roster screen has the nazi music.

>>1722504
the map31 music? doesnt that play in the roster screen in doom 2 by default?

This previous talk about unintentional and fully aware, shitty wads reminded me of this

Read this first
http://www.doomworld.com/vb/wads-mods/68542-archive-cleanup/
Then
http://www.doomworld.com/vb/post-hell/68540-terrytroll/
The aftermath
http://www.doomworld.com/idgames/index.php?file=levels/doom2/g-i/ipeitw.zip

>>1722343
Something you could do to make the map very threatening while increasing the agoraphobic theme is to have a lot of tiny monster closets with imps and former humans in them that open up as you progress/kill in *other* parts of the map. This allows monsters to dynamically stalk and ambush the player, so he'll never be or feel completely safe.

>>1722495
..are those modified duke nukem sprites?

>>1722542
yes it appears so. i think >>1722504 was just amused, not reporting a bug. either way i'm not going to lose any sleep over it :)

>>1722548
That's a pretty good idea. It'd make 100% the map a bit crazy, but fuggit.

I was going to teleport monsters in semi-randomly, but I think I may take you idea and have it so instead of opening up just closets it opens up new areas too. Or at least new paths...

>>1722549
Yeah, temple of the lizard man 3. It really put me off the episode since it went from a slightly weird thing in TOLM2 to something that was very clearly a vore fetish on the author's part.

>>1722561
I'm personally a huge sucker for maps that open up, have lava raise, or change shape in other was as you go along. My one and only released map is based on that.

Anyway, I look forward to playing yours. Hope I won't miss it.

>>1722578
have you tried pol.wad or boom map?

>>1722578
Well it probably won't be anything drastic, but I hope you like it anyway.

>>1722581
Only the former. Surprisingly quite good actually, considering the subject matter.
>>1722586
I'd be interested if there wasn't even a moving door on the map. I love interconnected open maps.

>>1722594
You might like this, dunno tho:
http://www.doomworld.com/vb/wads-mods/68967-first-singleplayer-boom-map/

>>1722578
>I'm personally a huge sucker for maps that open up, have lava raise, or change shape in other was as you go along.

http://www.doomworld.com/idgames/?id=12243

doom is a puzzle game

>>1722603
>>1722578

Xaser's Sector is also a great example.

>>1722606
is it me or is he calling himself Hellser now?

So on Refueling Base if you get the secret where you can fight the Cyberdemon early, is there any way to finish the level? I don't have the Blue Key yet and there's no teleport back to the zombie room that I'm aware of.

>>1722610

...Hellser and Xaser are completely different people.

>>1722605
I'm trying to make it so!

Started using notepad++ for acs yesterday. I've never used a coding tool like this before, and it's fucking amazing.

>>1722616
oh. i was on zdoom forums where, as i recall, xaser uses a tennant doctor avatar. i saw another post by someone else with a tennant doctor avatar, but the username was hellser. given the comon suffix -ser and avatar subject i assumed it was a name change.

>>1722620

Now that I give it a second glance, it looks like they're taking after each other.

Hello, was Eriguns ever updated with the Automatic Shotgun?

so since I cant seem to use my old character on the new version of RPG with RLA im gonna make a new character
give me some recommendations and some decent weapons for that class

>>1722661
Play scout and turn a pistol into a revolver. It'll do like 600 damage eventually, instant killing cacos and whatnot.

The no fun allowed build is marine with high power chaingun/minigun.

Stick 3 bulk mods on a double shotgun while playing Renegade. It's pretty funny.

>be playing doom RLA on doom 1
>find 2 techincal modpacks
>find 2 firestorm modpacks and shit bricks
>put them on shotgun
>mfw , shotgun becomes repeater of awesome

>>1722679
Is there a guide as to how armor mods work? Onyx is pretty obvious, but the one that sits in your inventory confuses me.

Also, hell, how does any of the mod work? Like, I truly wish you could look at armor stats in the store so you have SOME idea of what you're buying.

>yes I know obscurity is part of a roguelike
>still, drives me batshit

Also, I can't get teleport to base to work, and I can't get dropping invtentory items to work - am i just retarded? Halp.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x17-ElYt48Q

>>1722793

You seem to be in the wrong thread, friend.

Who /DunIt/ here?

Why do I always lag out when I am murderer? How can I stop this? (upgrading my shitty decade old Dell is not an option)

how do demolition ammo works in DRLA? just like in doomRL?

i'm asking because we did a demolition ammo combat pistol and my (scout) friend found it "not as good as the revolver"

>>1722778
>Is there a guide as to how armor mods work?
I don't know, and I've no idea how to use them either. I *think* you can only apply them to an armor you're carrying but not wearing.

>yes I know obscurity is part of a roguelike
>still, drives me batshit
I'm fine with item effects being obscure, but not when game mechanics are.
>Also, I can't get teleport to base to work
You need to highlight the skill in your skill menu, press and hold the skill wheel key, flick your mouse to one of the empty slots in the skill wheel, leave the menu, hold the skill wheel key again, and select the skill. Then you just press your skill key.
>>1722804
It doesn't give splash damage iirc :(
The revolver is fucking amazing as scout though. It's good for anything but heavy shadow revenants with a gajillion resistance and the like.

>>1722804
http://pastebin.com/2e3nMtbG
Demo ammo is not very good for scouts.

>>1722810
really interesting, thanks
>>1722778
armor mods are pretty confusing, yeah, and you can only use them on armors in your inventory
shame you can't use regular modpacks on armor in rla, i'm sure sticking that to fists (and lowered fists for the boots) wouldn't be too counter intuitive

>>1722815
Actually, The Cybernetic armor's ability lets you apply one modpack to it to boost its resistances.

>>1722168
Yeah, that's the big flaw of it right now, some of the animations need their speeds tweaked.

It's not entirely visible here, but there's a little string that says "lel" drawn on the pillar.

It works perfectly on the X axis, but Y is wonky. When that's fixed, I just have to make it account for all fov and resolution settings manually.

>>1722478
>- map07: if the tag667 platform rises too far due to the arachnotron death race condition, you can now press on it to lower it. this has a side effect that you can't just run past the arachnotrons and press the exit switch early (the switch platform was too small to prevent this, but surrounding it with special lines eats the keypresses...)

Thanks for this, it was the one major flaw of the map, I couldn't figure out how to get the platform to not bug out when the Arachnos fuck up and die at the same time.

So I just started playing the Doom Roguelike. Any tips?

>>1722869
what

>>1722893

If you get a message popping up when you enter a level, read it. Trust it. Be extra careful.

>>1722896
It's a script for things having health bars or whatnot hovering over monsters, or making it possible to interact with objects with a cursor.

>>1722885
>Thanks for this, it was the one major flaw of the map, I couldn't figure out how to get the platform to not bug out when the Arachnos fuck up and die at the same time.

no problem, i'm just glad i found it in time. you should have said something sooner! :)

there isn't much you can do as a mapper other than to ensure the raise by shortest lower texture floor motion takes longer to finish than the time between an arachnotron first dies and when it calls A_BossDeath, which as i recall is about 55 tics. this means the floor has to raise by at least 55 units.

i habitually try to leave one arachnotron alive on any map07 until i'm sure all the others are dead, so i know the floor raise will only get triggered once. this is why luring one into the platform teleporters is useful, because you can leave it up there out of harm's way until you're ready.

>>1722897
>That one message that means the level will be full of barrels
Absolutely Irritating

So, how is monster girl Doom progressing?

>>1722160
Isn't woc+hexercise a Hexen mod? These are for heretic

>>1722939

Well it just recently got a release so pretty well I guess?

>>1721502
k

>>1722919
The worst part is when there's good stuff in the level so you can't just run to safe distance and set them all off

>>1721973
At the bottom of the Doom RPG Options menu, there are options to load and save your character.

>>1722893
the pc sucks at doom, you can dodge but you will probably spend a lot of time in cover
>>1722919
there's one when you do the angel of 100 challenge that means that the level has only cyberdemons. tons of them

>>1723019
>the pc sucks at doom, you can dodge but you will probably spend a lot of time in cover
I'm finding this out. Except cover doesn't seem to do jack shit since everything shoots around it.

Also Cacodemons are bullshit. Chainfire an entire Minigun round into ONE on HMP difficulty, it doesn't die and then pours 4 shots down my throat that I cannot dodge. GG no re.

Is DoomRLA a little more fun than this? Because this feels like bullshit. Or maybe I just don't know what I'm doing.

>>1723019
>angel of 100
I really don't understand how people can do that to themselves. I've seen guys posting about it in /rlg/ and it just looks genuinely painful.

>>1723023
>Is DoomRLA a little more fun than this?
DoomRLA is a lot more fun than RL. I mean, I like roguelikes well enough, but RLA is just awesome. It is worth playing DoomRL at least a few times to appreciate some of the stuff in RLA though.

>>1723023
>I'm finding this out. Except cover doesn't seem to do jack shit since everything shoots around it.
cornershoot m8
learn it, love it
>cacos
never had a problem with them, just cornershoot them with a shotgun (even if you are going to use fast fire weapons, carry a shotgun around), they can't reach you because of the knockback
also pick traits for accuracy if you use ff weapons man
>doomrla
ya it's fun

>>1723023
One of the problems with DoomRL is the way it emphasizes strange gameplay tricks that don't exist in Doom. Like cornershooting that is basically required, shooting enemies you can't see yet, and the not very intuitive dodging system that takes some getting used to.

>>1723027
>I've seen guys posting about it in /rlg/ and it just looks genuinely painful.
yup
even worse is that angel of 666 thing
and i find that playing doomrl just makes me miss doom's level design and gameplay
>>1723030
yup
i think i would like it more if enemy attacks were actual projectiles, like in some other roguelikes

>>1723023
>maybe I just don't know what I'm doing
This is the case. Since DoomRL doesn't have reflex elements it has to be strategically demanding to maintain difficulty.

If you ran straight into Hell's Arena and took chaingun pot shots at a Cacodemon from fifty paces you absolutely deserve what you got.

>>1722951

What, it came out this month?

>>1722810
Whoever wrote this should change the part about High Power weapons being bad for Scout.
Scout always does 8x damage, or the maximum randomization of damage, whichever is higher. So he does 10x damage with a HP pistol.

Also, it's not in yet, but the next patch changes the Burst and Assault Plasma Rifles to do the same damage as the other weapons, not sure why they did less, must've been crazy at the time.

Hopefully this gets posted before my internet dies again.

How do I bind the equip Armor/Boots keys in DoomRLA? It's not showing up in the options or anything.

>>1723062
It's the "use item" key.

>>1723062
It's at the bottom of the Customize Controls part of the Options menu.

>>1723068
>>1723069
uh, yeah, except those aren't there...
I'm running it on the latest version of ZDoom so I don't know what's causing this

>>1722939
There is no way in hell that product is real, I refuse to beleave that christians that insain still exist

>>1723083
I assumed you were after the specific Remove Armor / Boots keys, as they are specific to the mod, my bad.

Armor and Boots are just inventory items, so the Activate Item keybind is what you want there. By default it should be Enter, with [ and ] cycling through inventory items.

>>1723090
Use reverse image search on it for the truth

>>1723094
>I assumed you were after the specific Remove Armor / Boots keys, as they are specific to the mod, my bad.
Wait, what's the difference? I got the wad from http://forum.zdoom.org/viewtopic.php?t=37044.. Is there something else I need?

>>1722031

You should make it so the skull sticks out a bit. Like one block while the black holes in the skull stay at the same level.

>>1723097
You asked about specific Armor / Boot keybinds. The only specific keybinds are for removing Armor and Boots. If you want to equip Armor or Boots, you must activate them like any other inventory item. Press the Activate Item key to manipulate them.

>>1721571
>Chex Quest 2
not gonna answer your question

>>1723023
Okay, so you've got to understand that when you're standing still and shooting...your character is literally just standing there shooting. Don't be afraid to move perpendicular in relation to whats attacking, it will increase your chance to dodge, and always try to back off and lure enemies too you

cover works and is the only thing that will get you through the game, (well that, and building your guy properly) the point of contention is that what determines if you are covered or not is the angle from which a monster is approaching from. When approaching a corner try too, if at all possible, step back and away from it, kind of like a real life soldier pieing the corner, it'll help you get a better first look, and bait monsters in for some easy corner shooting.
Hell's arena can be easily completed without taking any damage.

It's critical to never stand and just trade fire with any monster EVER unless you know for sure you're going to gun them down quickly, by virtue of the monster being weak or your weapon being really powerful.

>>1723105
this is what it looks like with that kind of changes.
It is prettier, but to me it looks less "magical book older than the printing press" and more "Horror movie prop"

>>1723138
in any cases, it was a good idea to make the pages shorter than the cover

Best way to play doom on android?

>playing Doom 1 with DoomRPG
>put all the points in agility and strength, ultimate glass cannon mode
>buy SSG in the store
>become death, destroyer of worlds
>tfw

And then I reached Inferno and shit got completely fucking insane with Cyberdemons knocking me down from 200 armor and ~200 health to -300 health. This might take some time, my GOTTA GO FAST style isn't fit for a world where a single Cacodemon is serious bad news if I don't notice him (can kill me in about three shots).

Okay so I just spent the past twenty minutes trying to make sure I had the right version of ZDoom and trying to load DoomRLA properly and now nothing's working right whatsoever and I'm tired. I don't think I should computers.

>>1723162
>And then I reached Inferno

Wait, wrong episode. I meant Thy Flesh Consumed. Inferno wasn't that tough.

>>1723168
If you're just playing normal doomrla, just drag and drop all it's associated wads into (g)zdoom. If you're playing doom rpg too, get the doom rpg launcher that's specifically made for the purpose.

>>1723171
>Doom RPG launcher
Oh hey that sounds like it'd be usefu-
>it's much worse
I give up trying to mod this game. When it goes from drag and drop to filling out spreadsheets, I quit.

>>1723205
>it's much worse
No it's not. Just check all your RLA wads in the wad list, and then check the appropriate patches in the left part of the window.

>>1721498
This looks like a lot of fun-
>404
...O-okay.

>>1723221

see

>>1721686

>>1723260
danke

>>1722990
k what? you agree, you don't, what?

Anyone got the name of that one mod that was a big ass survival mode where before each wave you had this slot machine determine the enemies that will appear, the weapons that will spawn and some gimmick like moving at sanic speed or being in a tank? I can't remember the bloody name.

>>1723306
Reelism

>>1723308
Thank you.

>>1723205
Launcher is pretty nifty, it loads all the files from a folder, though the way it prioritizes the load order means you have to mod the launcher too, which you can because its source code is in there too.
Launcher makes it pretty awkward to distribute add-ons for DoomRPG without Kyle updating the launcher, but you can always hi-jack one of the patches like I did with Chests.

it might be outdated now, but guess it still works just fine
https://drive.google.com/file/d/0Bx-OZG3OqlkwVkMySmtiSndQNEU/edit?usp=sharing

I need help finding a wad my brother had a while ago. The game starts out with you being arrested for looking at rabbit porn, and your punishment is going through the 25 glitchiest websites.

>>1723505
>>1723505
Deathz0r Online - The Internet Made Stupid

>>1722495
Yes, it was me.
Why do you ask?

>>1723513

Much thanks, my friend

What color is vanilla's Doom automap?

>>1723587
Black background, redwalls, yellow doors

hexen speedrun never ;_;

>>1723519
And me too. It seems a few people like it.

>>1723637
You are obviously retarded.
There are lots of Hexen speedruns out there.

>>1723649
talking about gdq m8

>>1723465
What addons are there to rpg/rla other than rla monsters? I heard something about boxes or something I believe.

>>1723649
>>1723657

We're getting there, we just got a Nightmare speedrun of Quake after it being ALWAYS made on Easy

And let's not forget that SpeedRunsLive started as a Quake speedrun hub

>>1723692
>SpeedRunsLive

I mean, SpeedDemosArchive. gg me again

Estimate on the next Samsara update? Or is it When It's Done territory what with mike doing Hdoom and Terminus doing metroid

>>1723692
Wait, did I miss the Quake and Doom runs?

>>1723871

They were yesterday, so yep

Someone posted youtube links to them earlier in the thread

>>1723869
considering the bullshit with the addons and people's reaction to the character announcement was literally "so what, i'll just play the addons for more characters"
i wouldn't be surprised if terminus doesn't even want to touch samsara again

>>1723869
From what I hear .31 is pretty much done except Mike12's sprites for Bloody Hell. That's the only thing holding up.

.31 isn't going to include Gina, she'll be in .32

>>1723903
Terminus isn't dropping samsara, all his stuff is already done.

>>1722478
Played through it.
MAP29 is boring and I was really disappointed.
Why is the map so fucking small and tight for a map right before the final boss fight?

And whats up with the texture placement in MAP07?

>>1722495
>>1723519
>>1723646
Friendly reminder: The map and the "Frequently given advice" one was made by the /doom/ shitposter. His maps suck, do not like his map and do not encourage him to make more maps.

>>1723869

Yeah, >>1723924 is pretty much has the short of the matter. 0.31 could use a few more tweaks and adjustments, but the beta build that's been floating around on BE is pretty much feature complete.
Just needs Mike's bloodyhell, but he's interested in HDoom at the moment, so.

>>1723903

As absolutely crushing as that was, it would be incredibly unprofessional of me to quit because of that reaction.
Gina will come. Eventually, but she will come.

>>1723938
>The map and the "Frequently given advice" one was made by the /doom/ shitposter.

So that's why we've been getting so many posts of said map as if it were Jeebuz's second coming and the best thing out of the mapset? Go figure.

Seems quite understandable, considering a few things.

>>1723946
>Eventually, but she will come.

Reminds me of Bethesda's "At A Later Time"© which is all over the place in the Doom beta disclaimer. With that said, I can't fucking wait for her.

>>1723871
>>1722001

>>1723953
>So that's why we've been getting so many posts of said map as if it were Jeebuz's second coming and the best thing out of the mapset? Go figure.
>Seems quite understandable, considering a few things.

The next thing you'll say is "The shitposter IS STILL BROWSING /DOOM/" or "The shitposter is DONALD / SGT MARK / CZ!!!"

>>1723963

No, the next thing I'm going to say is: Is this thing what you always spout every time the topic gets brought? http://archive.foolz.us/vr/search/text/mark%20cz/

>>1723974
Two of those are me, and I'm not the guy you're replying to.

I think you seriously underestimate the number of people dedicated to stirring shit on 4chan if you think everything happening in the Doom threads is one guy.

>>1723938
>And whats up with the texture placement in MAP07?
That...wasn't in my original. Looks like something might've gotten fucked up when the compiler switched my teleporter around.

>Friendly reminder: The map and the "Frequently given advice" one was made by the /doom/ shitposter. His maps suck, do not like his map and do not encourage him to make more maps.

>>1723953
>So that's why we've been getting so many posts of said map as if it were Jeebuz's second coming and the best thing out of the mapset? Go figure.
I'm Onslaught Six, I made four maps in the thing and I definitely don't shitpost. I also legitimately like Demon HQ. I think it's a fun-ass map with some cool shit going on; it isn't too hard and it isn't too easy, it looks neat and it has some cool stuff you wouldn't expect (shooting the flesh wall was awesome).

>all these deleted posts after the post with the Decade image
ONORE DICKEIDO

Hey, DYKGaming did a Doom video
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MCPJGt3m_v8

>>1724086
>markiplier
isn't that the pewdiepie with glasses guy

>>1724091
When he starts screaming he totally is like Pewdiepie.

When he's not he is okay.

>tfw finally knowing everything DYKGaming had to say in an episode
Noice

>>1723946
You should just go ahead with what you have and not worry about waiting for me to finish Bloodyhell, since that's gonna be an on-going thing anyways. I'm sure I'll have something much more substantial for the next version, (I already have a nice little bit of stuff I cooked up between working on HDoom).

>>1724086

Eh, they did the respective research for everything they mentioned, so it's okay for me.

>>1724050

GOD DAMMIT DECADE

IS THERE ANY PLACE SAFE FROM YOUR DICK

I MEAN FOR FUCK'S SAKE

AT LEAST WE DON'T HAVE TO WORRY ABOUT THE DOOM NO SEKAI BEING DESTROYED

>>1724086
It was a good video.
They missed some things though, but mostly small stuff.

>>1724118
>implying that isn't the plot of Doom 4

>>1723985
Well the original post got deleted but there is definitely something fucked going on with some sidedefs or midtextures or some shit in my Map07

>>1724142
repostin

>>1724158
Watch out. The Soviet janitor will probably strike you down for reposting that.

>>1724185

what the fuck are you talking about

>>1724204

Someone got mad that their shitposting was caught.

>>1724158
Hm. Weird. Wonder how that happened.

>You can't edit enemies to drop weapons using DeHackEd

Lame. I mean, yes, I know already it would be piss-easy to do in ZDoom, but this thing I'm doing is between the limits of vanilla and Doom 1.9 .deh wizardry (I'm more akin to do stuff using DECORATE, but I'm testing my skills with this thing for the first time), and before anyone ask, I'm planning on turning the SS into a "sniper" of sorts, so using its frames for anything is completely out of the question

The only alternative I can think of is to create a ZDoom-only file (which would work in that map only), which would replace the monster in question with the one that actually drops the weapon, and replace the weapon in the map with another item.

Such a messy workaround just for what I was planning to do. Ehh

>>1724307
Well, from the looks of things, it probably got screwed up when the teleporter got moved from one end of the room to the other. There was some tricky sector shit going on to make sure the detail strip above remained uninterrupted while the floor was consistent and it could easily be accidentally messed up. I can also see how it would be easy to miss seeing this since it's not really a smart decision to go running up to Mancubii with a rocket launcher on such small ground

Also the guy could be cheatan because he's got 100% health and cut off the face so we can't see that his eyes are gold

/doomg/ I have a few questions:

Doom RLA+RPG, is there a limit to how many weapons you can carry? I would end up getting to the weapons but collect ammo instead.

Also, I want to try out technician, but I am not sure how to play him, I know about the mod packs but is there a list of weapons and mod requirements?

Technician can't use the standard chaingun...

Also, the blaster is an odd weapon.

>>1724351
Six weapons total, not counting your fists.
For basics, check the DOOMRL wiki.
Haven't experienced any issues with the chaingun, just tested it and it worked fine.
It regenerates ammo if you stop firing it for a bit. It's pretty useful.

Are there any mods or add-on that increase how many weapons and modpacks you can carry in doomRLA?

>>1724369
No, but it'd be easy to just edit the code yourself.

Cheesewheel here, i'm planning to do about 7 maps with vanilla compatibility and release them probably at the end of July or start of August. Pic related is a little teaser. I can keep you updated with my progress if you any of you are interested at all.

>>1724403
Neat.

Hard to tell when he's sitting down, but Dime looks pretty damn tall.

>>1724443
donate and ask him in your donation comment

Good noob builds for Doom Roguelike? I keep getting my shit #rekt by Pinkies because they outrun everything and when you stop to reload they eat my anus. Even with Shottyman on a Scout they outspeed me and just eat my shit.

Also I have godawful luck getting modpack drops.

>>1724483
masterless rapid fire
take some eagle eyes and son of a bitch level, some finesse and you're pretty much done
as for pinkies, cornershoot them, and use the damn running tactics

>>1724490
that's pretty helpful.

About the Run tactic - since Shotguns literally can't miss, if I'm playing a Shotgun build should I just always be running? The aim penalty doesn't affect anything and the dodge increase is better, right?

So I beat Doom II PSX TC.

Anyone else find it like easier? I did. There's no archvilles, and the Pain Elementals and Lost Souls seem seriously nerfed.

The ending text is goofy as shit too. Then again so was most of PC doom's intermissions.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y25DnoP9YZM

Trying PSX Final Doom next. It sort of takes levels from Master Levels, Plutonia, and the other one and turns them into a single campaign.

Someone should make "PSX Doom TC: Complete"

Edit the maps to include enemies removed from the games (arch-villes).

Why does zdoom exist when gzdoom exists?

Working on a full sheet.

>>1724525
You should always be running in Doom.

Could you create a single huge castle/mansion for the entire campaign? Like huge. I really like Resident Evil style games and just running around exploring a place, finding keys. Sort of like a single Doom level but on a bigger scale, and with more backtracking.

Could you carry items (like keys) between levels? Or would you be forced to make it a single map? If so, what would be the limit?

>>1724614
Go play Strife NOW.

>>1724614

I think that's what the anon map maker for Metroid Dreadnought is doing

>>1724556
Feels like she is a bit too skinny over all.

Like the sprite is a little too low res maybe.
Maybe I am just used to Doomguy's more thicker body.

>>1724556
feels a bit clunky atm but good work overall keep at it
>>1724525
you can use it more freely, yes
it's useful for getting closer too, but you will probably be cornershooting shit
>>1724597
running in doomrl is limited m8

>>1724556
her right leg should probably kick toward the middle instead of out to the side.

>>1724615

Will do.

>>1724616

So I haven't played it, but I'm guessing it means you can keep upgrades/weapons between levels right? I was thinking more along the lines of RE style thing with inventory.

>grab the Skellington Key on the top level
>go down to the first level and open the Skellington Door.

>>1724629
This. A Doom Resident Evil mod would be amazing. Actual exploration, going back to areas with overpowered weapons, finding secrets and such would be GOAT.

>>1724629
What levels have you played for Doom like this already? I might be able to suggest a few.

>>1724629

Speaking of for Doom engine games. I have played:

>Doom
>Doom 2
>Final Doom

Have not played:

>Heretic
>Hexen: Beyond Heretic
>Strife
>Chex Quest
>Chex Quest 2

which should i play first?

>>1724640
Heretic is a good place to start.

Goes into Hexen too.

Chex is fun.

Strife is interesting but it will probably take the longest out of what you listed.

>>1724640
>>Heretic
>>Hexen: Beyond Heretic
they are good
heretic weapons feel a bit dinky but it has nice enemies (AND NO HITSCANNERS), and their death animations are great, also the inventory system and flying around is fun
hexen has little weapon variety but the atmosphere is great, also classes. there are mods for it which try to improve the experience if you into that
you also WILL get lost, watch out for that
i found strife kinda boring, combat wasn't special or anything, and the game pulls off some dick moves on you
story is decent and the voice acting is, too
chex's too easy, not really a lot to write home about but it's short so you don't lose much by trying i guess

>>1724549
Without ZDoom, there is no GZDoom. ZDoom was first.

>>1724632
There is some tech. demo mod for Doom using GZDoom that makes it play like Resident Evil
http://www.moddb.com/mods/survival-doom

Would be cool to see someone make something from it.

Beat Doom 2 on ultra violence today. Glorious fun.

>>1724158
haha oh that's embarrassing. i know exactly how it happened too.

yadex's auto texture aligner is braindead and only works on middle textures. so i have to set a middle texture on a two-sided line to get it to do anything.

then obviously i forgot to set them back to "-" afterwards, and since the lines face the back of the map at the one side of the arena you don't need to go into, i never noticed.

again, sorry about that and thank you for catching it.

>>1724652
Heretic also has the best chainsaw-like weapon ever.

Those fucking gauntlets, man. ESPECIALLY when you use a tome to power them up.

UNLIMITED POWWAAAAH

>>1724403
author of 200 minutes of tech? you know i'm interested

Hexen is one of my personal favorites. the atmosphere, the hub system, replayability with classes, etc. the whole thing was epic to me. just be ready for puzzle solving and some confusion.

>>1724781
Playing as the warrior is lots of fun. It's such an awesome feeling to run up and punch those flying gargoyles.

Final boss is a bit of a letdown though.

>>1724789
Warrior's punch was so bad ass.

Wap, wap, CRACK

>>1724789

yes indeed. I had too much fun running up to enemies and punching them to death. the warrior also can really power through the early hubs. the downside is the later levels with many more ranged enemies.

I feel like hexen dev was a bit rushed, especially at the end. Korax was alright as a boss, I liked that he could 1 shot you, but it could've been better. I think that monster was originally supposed to be the mount, then you'd fight a humanoid boss like in heretic, but that's just speculation.

>>1724806
I never felt that Fighter had any disadvantages.

Timon's Axe tears through everything and Fighter's speed puts Doomguy to shame.

Does this look better?

>>1724829

the speed is great, and the axe is highly reliable. I just find that using the hammer shot for all those dark bishops later on is a disadvantage. but warrior is still the best to play with.

>>1724839
Something about her peg legs just look really off-putting.

Also it feels like it's trying to be too high-res, especially on the face which just looks like pixel vomit.

>>1724839
Smooth out the face with one color.

There was an old Skulltag girl sprite that tried to overdetail the face, didn't look so good. I feel that this one has the same issue.

Then someone later on remade her and she had less detail on the face and it looked better.
She was also thicker.

The legs might need work but not sure how to go about it.

>>1724839
>>1724847
I just figured out what's off about the legs to me.

When she's running her legs are a little too one in front of the other.
Makes it look a little unnatural.

>>1724873
I disagree. Your legs naturally do go one in front of the other. What makes it look off is the one frame where their not. It makes it look like she's swinging both of her legs around each other at the same time.

If I remember right, spritenoob, didn't you have a decent run cycle for Lydia? Or did that not get finalized/finished?

>>1724902
Oh Lydia's full spritesheet has been done and implemented for a while. It's not great, but it works well enough ingame. I basically matched her animations to Doomguy's and tried to deviate when possible.

>>1724839
>>1724929

The torso should never be completely in-place, especially while running.

>>1724940
(almost) Nothing should ever be completely in place in animation unless it's a holding frame, and even then ideally you'd have slight settling movement. Isolated movement always looks weirdly off. Only ever works in pixel art (smaller than lydia) and even then a little extra usually looks nicer.

>>1724757

>3D models

Why don't more mods try that?

>>1724960
Doesn't look so good on a lot of things.

That mod in particular had to do it or else enemy and player sprites would be a huge bitch and a half to aim.

last attempt for the night. I really appreciate all the constructive critique.

>>1724998
Could use a pixel or so of bob on the head, having the face immobile looks REALLY strange.

>>1725007
I wrestled with that idea in the past and it always looked really bad with my sprites.

>>1721372
I like it.

>>1724998
I like the overall movement of it, a lot of improvement over the other ones. I do agree with removing some detail from the face though. There's too much going on and it reminds me of quasimodo somehow

Really nice work overall, though.

>>1724998
>>1724839
>>1724556
Speaking of TSP
when is it getting updated?

>>1725048

Tips on defeating the Barons of Hell on DoomRL? Got to Phobos Anomaly with a really good setup, Combat Shotgun, Ballistics Armor, Shottyman build and they still wiped the floor with me.

>>1725061

>>1724998
Face is fine, gun hold and point is fine. hair is fine.
Her body looks to the side but her legs have no in-depth look or waist movement. Her shoulders look like they are made out of solid bricks; when you put your arms on your waist and run, your shoulders suppose to move with the gun you're carrying swaying at the rear.
For fixing legs you need a bit more shadow work and contrast. Finally, legs are too short compared to her arm length. Give an elbow to those arms to compensate or make the legs longer.
I'm no expert but that's what I'd do to fix this model.

>>1724326
>Also the guy could be cheatan because he's got 100% health and cut off the face so we can't see that his eyes are gold
No sorry, Im just too good for the 200 min maps.
They lack of difficulty to be honest, but thats ok. One cannot expect that every anon contributing to this project has a lot of mapping experience.

the gamma is real

Will Metrood have eventual support for 8bit deathmatch?

I'd like to have sort of a smash bros match.