/vr/ - Retro Games

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NEWS
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-Doom 4 Trailer here. It's damn true. http://youtu.be/0C4F1h-HSXU.. Further details will be shown at Quakecon.

-TODAY!!! Don't forget to watch this year's Summer Games Done Quick, as it's going to feature Doom 64 and an Ultimate Doom race! Check the schedule here https://gamesdonequick.com/schedule.. The past AGDQ featured Plutonia (Go 2 It included) and a Doom 2 race. To rewatch said games, see this link http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLQcxg3SUqlYBoSYrpNJVu58GsoCXMREa1..

-Doom 2: In Name Only represents everyone's wishes of playing the Doom 2 maps in a more literal way. It just got an /idgames link now! Check the thread here. http://www.doomworld.com/vb/post/1124737

-Metroid Dreadnought IS OUT! GO GET DEM TUUUBES - http://zandronum.com/forum/showthread.php?tid=4561&pid=61847#pid61847

-Also The Space Pirate got an update! Check the latest ver. here! https://drive.google.com/file/d/0BxbbtKR5bll_anFPaVhUQVZqcnM/edit?usp=sharing And be sure to check this tutorial http://youtu.be/mrFF8LCZw5Y

-Some anons are doing a 200 min. speedmapping challenge; vanilla compatible (Doom 2 format), no custom textures and MUST be done in 200 mins and have an exit; ask in the thread f/details!

-Wanna see John Romero deathmatching in 2014? This happened at GDC http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLXkipPv0b4KMKE7z3WwlYYUCDLACNoYfE..

-HDoom has its 5th techdemo! happy now? http://www.best-ever.org/download?file=m12-hdoom-techdemo5.pk3

Mods that also got updated

Hideous Destructor - http://forum.zdoom.org/viewtopic.php?t=12973
Pirate Doom - http://forum.zdoom.org/viewtopic.php?t=32674
DoomRL Arsenal - http://forum.zdoom.org/viewtopic.php?t=37044


ATTENTION! If you know about something news-worthy, PLEASE reply to this post so everyone can see it

>>1717391
I actually think it adds to it. I think any good mapset should have a huge variety of level types--"gimmicky" levels, straightforward levels, outside levels, inside levels, easy levels, hard levels, Hellscapes and techbases, slaughtermaps and puzzle mazes. Ideally a good level set will put even an experienced player on their toes and have a slightly variable difficulty curve, while still generally getting harder toward the end.

My philosophy is variation and contrast. If a level was relatively long and hard to get through, or there were two or even three in a row, the next map should be a shorter "gimmicky" map or something very straightforward and fun. Think of how we get several mazey dark maps in Doom 2 like The Crusher and Waste Tunnels, only to be smacked with a wide-open daytime boss fight slaughtermap in Dead Simple.

Having played through the whole wad 2 or 3 times now (or what we have of it), I can definitely say that I think it's got exactly that. My own maps end up being those kind of "breather" maps (IMO) but they also offer some good boss arenas. (I think only one of my maps and Duck & Cover actually use a Spider Mastermind.) I think there's some really great looking and fun maps in here. I can't say I like all of them but even the ones I don't like have something redeeming about them, very few of them look like shit, for example.

I'm actually really impressed; when this started I expected it to turn out like complete shit.

Also the skies really bring it all together and make it feel like it's a new cohesive package rather than a handful of random levels.

>>1717306
>I will openly confess that probably all of my maps (once put side by side with the others in the wad) are kind of the easiest levels in the bunch.
honestly, they're not; this is a perception distortion effect of being the author. you playtest it a lot and end up losing the sense of how difficult it really is for someone who's just a player.

>>1717373
I did duck and cover (also Junxion, Carousel, Sneek, Brutto, Home Sweet Hell).

that's incredible, i had no idea they were all by the same person.

In regards to sub-machine gun weapons, the only one I can think of is the MP40, which can be found in Brutal doom (it likely comes from somewhere else).

>>1717373
>I did duck and cover (also Junxion, Carousel, Sneek, Brutto, Home Sweet Hell).

that's incredible, i had no idea they were all by the same person. usually you can tell, in the same way you can tell two paintings are by the same artist even if said artist is anonymous or using different pseudonyms. but in this case i had no idea.

>>1717391
>As the anon why made Punch It!, I didn't really understand what you meant when you mentioned the icon of sin part of it, because I hadn't actually put it in. I guess the one compiling the maps added that in, but I'm fine with it.

yes i added the death exit. as others said, it would overbalance whatever came after it; this was my primary reason for making the change. also, its position in the map order was giving me a headache :). it was too easy to go later but had too many weapons to go earlier.

that said, if i leave it as map20, the death exit is a bit superfluous. it's irrelevant to pistol-starters, and contiguous players will have everything except a BFG already anyway.

hmm.

>>1717360
>Yeah, Deep Shit is a bit abrasive I suppose. What about Deep Trouble? Or Canyadigit?

haha, canyadigit is barrels o' fun tier ;) i might just have to use that! the only thing i thought of was "lava canyon"

>>1717441 (me)
>the only thing i thought of was "lava canyon"
or possibly "lava overflow" because of drawsegs, but that's probably too self-referential

>>1717441
>>1717443
How about "Too Deep For You"?

>>1717447
Filthy Cultis detected.

>>1717447
that's just a catchphrase.

>>1717447
"In Too Deep", maybe?

Doom?
More like Dumb,shit doesnt have TECHNOLOGY
just take a look at this

1/4

2/4

3/4

4/4

ICE TECHNOLOGY

>>1717502
>>1717505
>>1717507
>>1717510

>playing as Warrior

My nigga.

>>1716065
>MAP05 - The Dig

i just rediscovered this map came with a readme.txt that listed its actual title as "200minutesmap"

https://www.dropbox.com/sh/0w5lr49e06jcsnp/AAAUHbSR1sHZVKoOuX9IAHR5a
https://www.dropbox.com/sh/0w5lr49e06jcsnp/AAD9XG5LBEhiwsYl1KATI3LLa/Readme.txt

i'm somewhat inclined to ignore this, though...

>>1717524
Well hopefully the original author will speak up about this.

Because that name is bad.

>>1717468
Call it "In Deep", then make a sequel map later called "In 2 Deep"

Hey mapbro, I found another sector issue in the two hundred minute maps challenge, this one's on Map12. The sector this switch is on damages you like the lava around it, pretty sure that isn't supposed to happen.

Also, this may just be me not knowing what I'm doing but there seem to be a LOT of broken switch tags in the level. Like the switch right there, and another in a room with large pillars full of water. A lot of switches that don't work or do anything.

>>1717561
Forgot my picture

>be board hopping
>see /vr/, what's going on in this board?
>doom generals
This is a thing? This game fucking raised me.
No words can express my feels

>>1717569
>This is a thing?
24/7

>>1717569
>raised by Doom
r u a spess muhreen?

>>1717569

>this is a thing?

Yes, welcome aboard.

>>1717574
this gif just made me lose my shit. I'm gonna go die of asphyxiation while watching this is E1M1 playing

>>1717575

Oh boy the things we got to show you

>>1717569

Welcome aboard, my nigga.

>>1717569
>>1717575
Welcome aboard, guy.

>>1717569
All Doom
All the time

Hop aboard the Doom train

>>1717502
>>1717505
>>1717507
>>1717510
THAT HUD
WHERE DO I GET IT

http://gamesdonequick.com/schedule

>Thursday, June 26, 2014 4:31:00 PM

Ah come the fuck on, it was 5PM just two days ago; ah well, seems like I'll be missing it

>>1717667
>not knowing Wrath of Cronos

im trying to run doom voxel project in gzdoom and is not working, the map is fully glitched and weird, what i can do?

Are there any easy tutorials to making Doom maps?

>>1717732
post pics

>>1717737
here it is

>>1717762

Where did you download this version of Picasso Doom?

>>1717762
my guess is driver problems. Try updating it

also, if you can,do png_gamma 1 before screenshots

>>1717401
Zandronum 1.2.2 came out.

Yo, what mapset is this from?

>>1717830
alt.wad

>>1717836

Oh, thanks.

>>1717830
>>1717836
>>1717839
I'm curious, what's with having a name with no trip on an anonymous imageboard?

>>1717865

Uh... From what I heard using a trip without some form of content is a no-no, that and I'm a nub, and I dunno how to obtain said "trip".

I guess another explanation could be "Because I feel like it", but that seems rude.

>>1717631
Any mods that have monsters rising on other monsters?

So I'm working out an atmospheric thing where the base computer gets posessed and starts mocking you and any other survivors, alongside souting pro helll propoganda, all in monotone, later on in earth in a level resembling some opening bits from duke, tvs get similarly posessed and you get stuff like distorted afterimages of news anchors taunting you

>>1717920
not that I know of

What are some relatively bright and open megawads?

>>1717891
That also applies to having a name.

>I dunno how to obtain said "trip"

Forget it, I guess I'm the fag. It just itches people want to cling on an identity here where there could be so many other places.

>>1717927

it should be in an alien language.

>Romero said Brutal Doom is Doom 2.0

Source?

>>1717865
>>1717952
Having a trip means you care enough about your identity that you wouldn't want to be impersonated, which says something about you that might not be true. If one namefags without partaking in drama, why would anyone even want to?

In this thread specifically, it's usually mapmakers/modders who namefag.
>>1717927
You've played SS2 I reckon? That sounds exactly like Xerxes.

"Why do you persist in your loneliness?"

>>1717956
Romero also made Daikatana

>>1717952

I dunno, I just like to use the name I use in the Doom community, color me weird I guess.

>>1717830
Is there a way to get rid of that hud that shows up when you look at an enemy in Doom RPG?

>>1717980
You probably can, I like it so I haven't looked for the option, it's probably in the "Doom RPG options" menu somewhere.

What do I need to do to play DoomRLA with DoomRPG and where can I get the required wads to do so?

inb4 >spoonfeeding

>>1717991
Get all the doomrla and doomrpg wads, then just load all of them up with DoomRPG-Launcher. Theres a link for it in the doomrpg thread over at zdoom forums.

>>1717991
>What do I need to do to play DoomRLA with DoomRPG
You don't need to.
>and where can I get the required wads to do so?
You can find any wad by googling "[wadname] wad", this isn't /a/ but come on now.

>>1717891
>that and I'm a nub, and I dunno how to obtain said "trip".
>there are people that don't read the rules and faq before posting

>>1717956
The post making that claim was rather obviously a joke.

It's pretty clear that Romero doesn't think highly of Brutal Doom, but also understands how to avoid getting mobbed by a bunch of faggots who can't stand it when someone doesn't like what they like. He's been careful to avoid directly praising or denouncing it - in the IGN video he did for the 20th anniversary he called it "hilarious" and said that if they'd released that instead of vanilla Doom, they'd have "destroyed the game industry". Both statements could be taken either way. About a month after that video, he shared a link on his Facebook to a long blog post that's mostly about how Brutal Doom is shit (blog post here if you're interested: http://blog.danbo.vg/post/50094276897/the-most-misunderstood-game-of-all-time).).

>>1718021
>Weapon “rebalancing” means hitscanners hit harder and revenants are pathetically frail, headshots add a completely unnecessary and confused element to the game, “fatality” animations quickly turn from shocking and visceral to stale, played-out and overlong. The BFG no longer has its quirks that require a blend of timing, elegance and aggression, being replaced with what can only be described as “a big dumb green rocket”. Brutal Doom is Doom with the intelligence taken out and all the viscera turned up to 11. Fine in small doses, the definitive experience it ain’t. And it will easily ruin most wads not designed with it in mind.

I didn't realize Brutal Doom removed the weird BFG mechanics.

>>1718021
>Romero doesn't think highly of Brutal Doom,

{{citation needed}}

>>1718062
Citation given in >>1718021

>>1718062
how about you read his post you piece of shit

>>1718052

I've never liked how the original BFG works, that's something I wholeheartedly liked when it came to Brutal doom.

>>1718084
> After a delay of just under a second, the BFG fires the green energy ball.

> On impact, the projectile deals a large amount of direct (not splash) damage to whatever it hit.

> The BFG's invisible mechanics come into play now. The weapon fires a spread of 40 hitscan "traces" (or "rays") evenly distributed across a 90-degree arc pointing in the direction the BFG ball was fired in, from the player's current position, with each ray dealing 15d8 damage. Coupled with the average damage of impact being 450 damage, the average damage of the BFG (with very little deviation, due to the 601 dice rolls) was 3150 damage. This is 150 more health than the final boss of Doom has.

...Yeah, that seems like a bit much.

>>1718052

I mostly agree with this. But Brutal Doom still has some really nice things in it.

>Specters that can only be seen via their eyes, and the splashes they make in the water

That's genius.

>The weapon sprites and animations

Also reaallly good. The only problem is that I feel they're "too" good for Doom. They feel like they should be part of some new game. Doom guy has brown gloves for instance, he doesn't have an all black theme going on.

>more aggressive enemies
>Reloading

Might be controversial, but it is a slight limit to the player. But I feel the Doom Marine is already too powerful, so adding a few seconds where he's completely vulnerable and has to bow out of a fight for a few seconds is a good idea.

Now the bad:

>half-dead enemies

Their screaming is really annoying. It's just the main scream repeated. They should at least create a new sound for it.

>fatalities

Goofy and get old fast. Plus graphically it's pretty bad looking.

>iron sights

Basically gives the player a sniper rifle shotgun/assault rifle. A little too OP in a game like doom. Enemies can't really respond with it so you're at a huge advantage.

>Weapon rebalancing

Assault rifle is your starting weapon? You can beat the entire game with this thing. It's THAT good. There's no progression of weapons from weak to stronger. The starting weapon is already really powerful. Even the handgun you can optionally replace it with is very accurate, fires incredibly fast. Regular shotgun is even more powerful (10 pellets vs. original 7). I think the weapons are a bit too powerful.

>Gore and effects

WAY TOO MUCH. It quickly becomes annoying and once a firefight starts blood and gore and cracks on the glass everywhere.

>fatalities
>Goofy and get old fast. Plus graphically it's pretty bad looking.

I think the monster vs monster or monster vs player melee death animations are pretty cool. Whean monsters start screaming and bleeding only for you to finish them is tasteless and annoying though, and the berserk pack player animations break the flow of the game.

Error intensifies

>>1718096

>graphical effects

Yeah, imp fireballs and torches look nice, but they don't really fit doom's graphics. It feels like a hacky mod than a proper seemless game. So what I'm saying is go with either the low resolution game, or make a proper full remake. None of this kind of half assed thing with the original game, but with some nice effects here and there.

The neutral:
>the kick

Not sure where I fall on this.

I've only played a bit of it. A lot of it I don't like, but a lot of it I like. I'm going to be making something that is going to incorporate a few of the things I like about it. I don't think Brutal Doom should be dismissed out of hand though. I also know that several of my complaints (but not all) can be removed through optional modifiers.

I also know that there isn't much that Brutal Doom does that is original. Most of it is a compilation of other mods.

>>1718105
Did you check the patch box?

Help! Icarus, map 20

This blue key, what do I do?

>>1718109
oh hurr.. I didnt see that there

>>1718109
Now I have

>>1718095
>>1718021

>"I can think of no other way to describe the author of this blog other than a 'Doom Hipster'... if such a thing even exists."

What's wrong with giving SSG 14 pellets again? SSG is basically a short range rocket launcher with no drawbacks and tons of ammo. It's a bit OP.

>>1718148

If it was 14 pellets it be incredibly useless

>>1718174
You're a big guy.

>>1718174
Alpha is alpha, man.

>>1718174
>If it was 14 pellets it be incredibly useless

Not useless, just less useful. Which would mean having to use the plasma and rocket launchers as well.

>>1717956
He did not say that, He did say he found it hilarious and that if they had released that it would have destroyed the game industry

>>1718052
>>1717954
While I dissagree with the hate the mod gets, I respect that not everyone likes it and fully agree with the issue of not being compatable with wads not made with it in mind

>>1718212
>While I dissagree with the hate the mod gets,

Because it got popular. If it was obscure people would just ignore it.

>>1718106
My long term project is to take the elements of BD and make a hi end remake with better graphics that still feel like the doom asthetic, but with brand new sprites and so on.

>>1718116
argh i know this map but i haven't played it in years and i can't remember. at the moment i can only suggest you check the DSDA for a demo, or youtube, or something.

>>1718214
Ahhh, it doesn't help that some go touting it as perfect or better than vanilla and stuff, me I just like the pacing and the sense of impact more, but its not what everyone

>>1718216
>My long term project is to take the elements of BD and make a hi end remake with better graphics that still feel like the doom asthetic,

What specifically?

>, but with brand new sprites and so on.

I say go all in or go bust. Learn 3D modelling, and attract others who are good at it. Make full detailed beautiful 3D models for the monsters. Ones that look better than this.

Also why has no one made good 3D models for items? Figured that'd be easy. The 2D sprites look pretty good, but those barrels always looked bad because it just has the one side that always faces you.

>>1718137
>>"I can think of no other way to describe the author of this blog other than a 'Doom Hipster'... if such a thing even exists."

That's the tag of the guy who wrote the blog, not a comment on that blog post.

>>1718230

And better than these too. They're pretty ugly. I never liked Doom 3 monsters.

>>1718230
>Also why has no one made good 3D models for items? Figured that'd be easy. The 2D sprites look pretty good, but those barrels always looked bad because it just has the one side that always faces you.
well, there's a voxel pack, it still counts as 3D,l i guess (and it looks pretty neat)

>>1717561
Shoot the switches.

What in Doom 4 would make you shit your pants in joy?

>No regenerating health
>NO FUCKING IRON SIGHTS FUCK
>The speed of the original, or of Project MSX
>Big giant open spaces filled with enemies.
>Fast respawning

>>1718230
>>1718237
The plan was to blend the best of both classic and doom 3 asthetic, sprites was a deliberate limit to test my self, a full 3D version may get made later though, the real meat is that while doom had nods to the inferno and paradise lost this would go all out with the lore all optional of course, but I'd explore things like factions within hell, what purgatory and heaven have been doing, etc. As well as bits and bobs from other adaptations and attributes from doom like games like hexen, strife and duke

>>1718253
>Complex maps with lots of secrets and exploration that isn't just a one way hallway with stupid special effects

>>1718262
Yeah, that sounds great. The new Wolfenstein game did a damn good job with putting a whole bunch in their maps.

>>1718194
No, it'd be useless. Mutiny demonstrated this incredibly well - the shotgun trumped the SSG in almost every situation, and rockets or plasma covered the rest.

Plus you'd be hurting from suddenly needing 30% more shells to get the job done, and on maps with stringent ammo drops, this kills you incredibly easily.

>>1718269
But is the game at least a little maze like and makes the player explore, or is it just hallway with guns?

>>1718253

Getting Erik Alm to come out of obscurity and work as a mapper again.

>>1717427
i think that comes from the NAZIS! wad

Any idea why I can't see the HUD when playing Doom?

Downloaded the IWADs and OpenGL variant of ZDoom sourceport from the FAQ and everything is running smoothly expect I can't see the HUD.

>>1718320
Did you apply DoomRL HUD.wad? Also be sure to use fullscreen hud (adjust it with + and -)

>>1718021
the guys says:
>brutal doom is doom with the intelligence taken out of it

hurm...it's pretty much the same exact game, just with more aggressive enemies. Is it "less" intelligent for imps to aggressively leap at the player? or cocademons to quickly dodge out of harms way? less intelligent for projectiles to be faster or more numerous so as to keep the player on his toes?

I understand what makes doom awesome is how the enemies are designed to fulfill differing roles in the playfield and how they are used and how many greatly influence how a map plays out...but there is like basically nothing that BD does to detract from these base elements of the game.

but i dunno...i don't play BD for "headshots" and corny finishing moves, the secondary swing on the chainsaw is as far as I go with melee I like the weapons and the more pissed off enemies. In fact I play BD:SE. That sweet secondary fire on the rocket launcher, and that sweet minigun with those alt sounds.
unf...mutha fuckin demon slaughter paradise.

>>1718331
>hurm...it's pretty much the same exact game
>but there is like basically nothing that BD does to detract from these base elements of the game.

Hahahahahahahahahaha look at this fucking guy.

>>1718308
It's a maze, complete with hidden vents and things that give the player new ways to approach the level.
Wolfenstein: The New Order is a fucking great game.

>>1718261
>The plan was to blend the best of both classic and doom 3 asthetic,

Personally I'd go Doom PSX since it's so purdy. Lots of blues, reds and yellows. But that's my take on things.

Seeing Brutal Doom do a shitty attempt at stealth made me decide to try my hand at it and see if it would/wouldn't be terrible.

http://forum.zdoom.org/viewtopic.php?f=19&t=46174

Lemme know if it's broken or if it's cool.

>>1718331

>hurm
>ellipses
>that post structure

are you sure belong here pal?

can we stop having the brutal doom argument again? how many times is this now? i lost count at "umpteen"

>>1718253
What I really want out of Doom 4 is recapturing the feeling of being alone and fucking DOOMED.

>>1718106
>Yeah, imp fireballs and torches look nice, but they don't really fit doom's graphics.
I actually really like the way TSP handles this, since a lot of the effects seem like they're just repurposed or slightly edited vanilla graphics. It may just seem like that when in reality it does use hires stuff, in which case it does a good job of hiding that fact. It's still in alpha though, so it may eventually go full hires and bloom and make me not want to play it anymore.

>>1718336
>>1718350

>Can't respond to any substansive points
>nitpicks post strucutre

oh yeah nice little circle jerk you guys got here. Nope, no group think going on at all. All rational analyzing among esteemed scholars.

Yeah, go back to your slow as shit boring "vanilla doom" while I play the ultimate in fast paced mayhem and action, "Doom 2.0" (aka Brutal Doom). There's a reason why it revitalized Doom and put it on the map after being ignored for 20 years. Shame that none of your "authentic" mods never generated any of that attention, huh?

>>1718253
>The speed of the original, or of Project MSX
>Big giant open spaces filled with enemies.

>>1718356
>the feeling of being alone and fucking DOOMED.

i think these two are a contradiction. i don't think it's possible to satisfy both at once.

Don't think anyone's posted this, but someone finally fixed the port image.

Okay, I have a revolver with +2 power, a high-power fucking minigun (not cg), and an explosive assault rifle. What the hell do I make with these? Grenade/tactical launcher?

>>1718336
Don't bite the bait. He just exposed himself anyway.

>>1718342

>play game, dark but can see tons of blue color
>post screenshot
>screen shot is super dark

Why is this? It was not that dark when I played it?

>>1718371
fwiw i think you have a point about increased monster AI in your original post, but i would kindly ask you to try to avoid the temptation of responding to trolling with more trolling. it never helps.

>>1718350
>>1718331

Why were these posts deleted?

>>1718384
Why are you using alternative HUD? That's not how you DRLA at all. Part of the reason is I can't tell if you're a Marine or not. DoomRLA has its own HUD.

Also use png_gamma 1 in console before taking screenshots. It might look fine on your monitor but it looks like shit to everyone else.

The long term planning guy here, I do have som co devs, one who's neutral to BD, one who dislikes and I miself like it, so I think that will help us balance it out with what's added and what isnt

>>1718371
>There's a reason why it revitalized Doom and put it on the map after being ignored for 20 years.

Yeah, you're not even trying at this point.

>>1718381
the image representing the odamex developers is so far wide of the mark it's just embarrassing. sorry.

>>1718371
>There's a reason why it revitalized Doom and put it on the map after being ignored for 20 years.

I actually searched this intending to prove you wrong, but was instead myself proven wrong.

As you can plainly see from this chart, Brutal Doom has had a staggering and profound effect upon the popularity of Doom.

>>1718428
LGTSS
>SHITPOSTERS

BLOWN THE FUCK OUT

>>1718384
dear god, you murdered my eyes

>>1718420
>>1718428

Name a mod that has been featured in Let's Plays by major youtubers like total Biscuit. Name a mod that has found mainstream success like BD has. Name a mod that has gotten kids who have never played doom, playing Doom.

You cant'.

>>1718428
>after 2005, Doom (1993 Video Game) consistently outranks Doom 3

Yeah, time to stop feeding the troll.

>>1718447
MM8BDM
your move, turbonerd

>>1718371
>go back to your slow as shit boring "vanilla doom" while I play the ultimate in fast paced mayhem and action, "Doom 2.0" (aka Brutal Doom)
Awesome false dichotomy there. You do know there are other gameplay-changing mods, right?

>>1718373
Think "alone" in the more metaphorical sense, that everything in the game is your enemy and no one's coming to save you.

So I kno people have experimented with vehichles in doom before but what would best fit the doom style? Tanks? Mecha? Walkers? Ridden beasts?

>>1718459
>You do know there are other gameplay-changing mods, right?

and not a single one can match the intensity of BD. I got bored of Doom like 10 years ago but BD has completely revived it in my eyes. I'm back to playing, and Doom has never been better.

>>1718458

so different it's a new game. new maps even.That's not doom that's doom engine.

>>1718447
>Name a mod that has gotten kids who have never played doom, playing Doom.
It's gotten them playing Brutal Doom, it's hard to say that really counts.

I mean, look at all the poor reviews being given to newer wads, "0/10 it's not compatible with brutal doom so I hate it"

Is that really where we want our fanbase to be?

STOP RESPONDING TO HIM

>>1718447
>Name a mod that has been featured in Let's Plays by major youtubers like total Biscuit.

It was in a single video by Total Biscuit. I'm not aware of it being played by any other "Major Youtubers."

Also MM8BDM

>Name a mod that has found mainstream success like BD has.

According to >>1718428, not even BD has achieved mainstream success. It's been written about on Kotaku, a site that will run an article about a 10 year old viral video or a journo's particularly wet fart if it's a slow news day.

>Name a mod that has gotten kids who have never played doom, playing Doom.

Doom has gotten kids who have never played Doom, playing Doom.
I'm also pretty sure most of the major mapping projects and TCs have gotten kids who have never played Doom, playing Doom.

I'm pretty sure ZDoom and GZDoom might have a lot more to do with new people playing Doom than BD ever has, or ever will.

I don't doubt that there are kids that started playing Doom for the first time because of BD, but according to the chart it's a drop in the bucket.

>>1718253
why do people have such a problem with iron sights?

>>1718447
GVH

>captcha: are btfostr

Couldn't have said it better myself, Captcha

>>1718463
>"I got bored of Doom like 10 years ago"
>game is over twenty years old

Okay lol?

>>1718463
keep on moving them goalposts further baby
plenty of people have crossed over from MM8BDM to Doom
more than the number of people who've moved on from Brutal Doom, most likely

>>1718470
>/v/

This is /vr/, not /v/. Reporting actually works here.

Fuck you you stupid troll making BD players look like a pack of morons

>>1718469
I don't in general, but I do when it's in Doom. Doom is about running and gunning, not at all about quiet precision.

Seriously mods should do an IP check on this asshole. Bet he's German.

>>1718461

Mecha and walkers.
Vehicles are inherently impossible to do in Doom, due to completely different movement system.

Wht are /vr/'s favorite joke wads?

I need some laffs

>>1718487
Swan Fox.

>>1718480
Perscision yes, quiet no, its to deal with enemies that are far away, and to shut up the screaming crippled monsters, they need more sounds

>>1718494
we're talking about doom 4, not brutal doom

>>1718486
What about beasts? Like a tamed monster? Walkers should be cool too

>>1718459
[quoting entirety of relevant portion of deleted post]
>>>1718373 (You)
>Think "alone" in the more metaphorical sense, that everything in the game is your enemy and no one's coming to save you.

oh, i see what you mean now, yes, you can still be a hell-conquering badass, but completely alone and separated from other humans. unlike doom3 with cambell and swann and bravo team and bertruger and sarge and whoever the heck else. no humans, just the forces of hell and you (and a massive pile of heavy ordinance).

>>1718461
I have always thought a kind of hover-tank would be best. that way you don't have to change the movement much.

>>1718490
... never knew deviantart users (is that fucking naruto in the trailer?) made doom .wads

>>1718503
but co-op would be nice too

>>1718487
is russian overkill a joke wad? if so, then there's my answer. it's certainly not meant to be serious.

>>1718498
Oh, I'm cautiously optimistic about doom 4, I liked the idea that hell had its own tech, so seeing the cyberdemon with a UAC lable on its laucher

>>1718487
My personal favorite is Total Madness: It Always Gets Better

>>1718512
or that the demons salvaged UAC's tech somehow

>>1718253
honestly i'd be fine if it had doom 3's gameplay as long as the map design is better and the weapons are more satisfying. also proper co-op cause for some reason you couldnt do that in doom 3 on pc.

>>1718506
well yes, co-op is orthogonal to my post. co-op could still be you against the forces of hell, but there is more than one "you".

my point is no stopping for non-player characters to explain things and show you stuff happening somewhere else you can't reach.

>>1718510
indeed, Russian Overkill is hilarious. Even if you just find it funny for a few minutes...it's worth experiencing at least once.

>>1718503
Yeah, exactly. 1 man vs 1 hell please. NPCs? no...I'm good.

>>1718505
you're in for one hell of a time, anon

>>1718518
>Shoot weapon
>Music starts
Just great

>>1718505

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=57a2fd-Id6A

HAVE FUN, ANON

>>1718514
Well, it's just like in the "fluff" writing during the interlude screens in doom 2. how it says that their presence alone is subverting reality - bringing their own with them.

A demon wants a rocket launcher? He just picks it up and it becomes part of him via hellish intent. He's a demon. Deal with it. (with a shotgun.)

>>1718521
well yes eventually one might become sick of it, just like any other wad, be it gameplay mod or set of maps.

i admit i eventually ended up trying to avoid picking up awesomespheres because of having heard the music so many times.

Rate my set-up.

>>1718237
Doom 3 pinky is superior to vanilla's imo.

>>1718531
it's just the same thing as what happened to deimos in episode 2

>cannot discuss or praise BD in any way
>muh authentic circle jerk

/vr/'s Doom confirmed for groupthink circle jerk where outside ideas are assassinatd and suppressed on site.

>>1718539

>>1718539

>>1718480
This is what's so great about Doom - it supports so many different playstyles, and there's no real "best" one. I prefer playing tactically and conserving ammo as much as possible, even fighting pinkies bare-handed to avoid wasting shells I could need for bigger threats. Others prefer to speedrun, blazing past any enemy not directly between them and the exit. Some swear by playing it like it's the Doom comic, with no regard for precise aiming or caution of any sort. You could be a master of puppets of sorts and not even use your guns, just trick the enemies into doing all the hard work for you. None of these playstyles are "right", or rather, they're all "right". With such a simple goal as "get from one map to the next without dying", there's very few ways you can do it "wrong".

>>1718540
Yeah, the D3 pinky is a pretty nasty looking fellow.

As is the Baron.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w0eDrogZ7lA

>>1718381
>>1718426

too much words just to say "this pic makes me uncomfortable"

>>1718539
>filters
>bloom
>gamma
>brutal doom
>hires font
>hires textures

I KNOW YOU'RE JOKING BUT I AM LITERALLY GETTING ANGRY

>>1718546
can you not appreciate that this argument has been rehashed here a hundred times already and we are just tired of it?

in fact i'm fairly sure the consensus on brutal doom is in the faq somewhere

>>1718561
Oh yeah, the baron redesign was really intimidating. I always thought they were too small in the first Dooms.

>>1718570
He was a troll who was dealt with earlier and is possibly evading.

Don't respond to him and just report him.

There's a lot of filters abolist here, but for some reason, I really like filters.

I think it's mostly nostalgia, the second PC I ever got came with a motherfucking 3Dfx voodoo1 card and was my pride and joy. All my friends were stuck with their plebeian playstations and N64's. I felt like the king of the world. They would sit in awe as I booted fully filtered versions of tomb raider or moto racer. Fuck, that felt great.

>>1718539
>gloom
>hd textures
>crosshair
>brutal doom

>>1718571
Come to think of it, while all the enemies are introduced in pretty awesome ways in D3, it is the pinky and the Baron that were arguably the most "oh shit..." worthy.

>>1718538
the awesomesphere is the thing that made me download 3 Inches of Blood's discography but holy shit Deadly Sinners is still their best song

>>1718480
This is kinda what I like about The New Order. I do like iron sights in games, but in The New Order, you can easily get through with firing from the hip.

>>1718539
>messages at the top of the screen don’t have bloom applied
0/10 would not fuck yourself

>>1718585
i like how it seemed like the pinky was going to bust down the door but then he just gives up and jumps through the window

>>1718595
They aren't bright enough for the bloom.

>>1718585
Yeah, I can agree with that.
Sad that they were pretty rare. Pinkies in particular, I remember fighting them way too few times.
I dislike how many scripted sequences they had for the imp, and almost none for the other demons.
Th redesign I didn't quite like was the Archvile.

Could the Doom engine eventually be able to play Doom 3?

>>1718616

Legacy of Suffering.
So yes.

>>1717524
By the way, we doing and interlude text? I don't have any ideas myself or anything. Just curious.

The Doom 64 speedrun is near, be prepared

>>1718624
What

Where

Dunno if this is the best place to ask, but here goes. I'm trying to play Duke Nukem 3D with the Attrition mod but when I finish the last level of the first episode it loads the secret level of the third episode and then goes directly to episode 4, completely skipping episode 2 and 3. Is this normal?

>>1718561
To be specific the game calls them Hellknights, I think the Brute might be a stand in for the Baron

An explanation behind the mechanics of generic assemblies that cover several weapons in DoomRLA. Spoilers abound. Doesn't say what mods to use, just what they do.

http://pastebin.com/2e3nMtbG

>>1718630
I dont really know.. but its probably best to stick with the random missions

>>1718624
SGDQ

GET HYPE

>>1718561
>That video

10/10

Anybody got any more Doom machinima?

>>1718585
>>1718608
Yeah Doom 3 makes very poor use of the Pinky. It pretty much never shows up.

Resurrection of Evil has the Barons (or Hellknight, whatever they are) show quite a lot. There's one really awesome fight in Hell where you fight a total horde of them.

>>1718320
Try changing the "screen size" setting in the display options. Setting it to max will eliminate the HUD.

>>1718651
just this. by the same dude and making fun of the same "film".
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NuvuIO23vRg

the friendly super nice revenant kills me every time.

Of the three offficial versions we've seen which is your favorite and least favorite version of the Cyberdemon?

>>1718540
I always thought Quake's fiend was what Doom's pinky should have been.

Fast, aggressive as fuck, and able to kill in two or three hits.

>>1718021
I agree with most points the guy makes, but (unrelated to doom) here http://blog.danbo.vg/post/40621266066/the-lead-designer-of-mark-of-the-ninja-on he went full retarded imo.

>>1718686

>mfw HP minigun with maxed out red aura in RLA/RPG

>>1718714
I like it, kinda like if they took the doom 3 pinky and put it on its hind legs, perfect mix

:- ) ?

>>1718130
Sorry it took so long. Haven't been feeling well and slept like 20 hours straight.

Go into your INI and delete every line starting with drpg_

That should fix it.

>>1718737

Thanks.
And feel better soon.

>>1718095
>>1718084
Nah sorry but I think the BFG's weird mechanics is part of the gun's charm. It's super-powerful, but you have to be pretty much kissing the target to get the full dose of damage. It makes using it against cyberdemons and masterminds exciting, because you can finish the fight in 2-3 blasts if you can get close enough with dying.

>>1718734

>They charge 15 dollars for Doom in 2014

They should really just give the god damn game away.

>bitch about BD's flaws

Then fix it nigga. All this shit is open and ot there and anyone can change the code.

>>1718743
it wouldn't be so lame if the original devs got the money, but even then it should be like $1

>>1718747

Why should I fix Mark's mod for him?
I'm more interested in making my own stuff rather than do things that I'll never be properly credited for anyway.

>>1718747
That's what the sperglord edition is working at, once V20 is out sgt mark is going to work on other things meaning sperglord edition will be able to finalize its tweaks

>>1718747
But anon, we don't want to be driven to suicide by its code.

>>1718747
or we could just play something we actually have fun with and not have to deal with its shit in the first place

there's other mods out there you know

>>1718747
I'd rather consume plutonium than read that spaghetti fuckfest he calls code.

>>1718761
OOOH, how kinky.

>>1718237
Actually, I think doom 3 had incredibly interesting and cool monster design with very few exceptions: the archvile was kind of boring and the lost souls were a bit eh.

>>1718743
Unfortunately, "they" in this case is a greedy publisher with a bottomless lust for money. The people who actually created the game probably don't give a shit if anyone pirates it in 2014, they've all moved onto (from their perspective) bigger and better things.

>>1718770
The concept art for lost souls was awesome, a hole bunch of variants

>>1718757
or just completely expand past Brutal Doom and become something much more fun. Also, given that v19 was the supposed 'last version', i doubt this will be the last version.

>>1718747
>All this shit is open

Sorry, I forgot that Sergeant Mark IV's Brutal Doom (by Sergeant Mark IV), with everything made by Sergeant Mark IV and some spots of editing by a few other nerds (but mostly Sergeant Mark IV) is open to everyone (but especially Sergeant Mark IV) who is willing to help (and be put in credits next to "created by Sergeant Mark IV and slightly edited by Anon").

>>1718770
I agree mostly. Imp was kind of eh, but it looked fine when playing. New cacos are a bit weird, but okay I guess.
I agree wholehearthedly about archies and lost souls. I liked the Forgotten Ones in the expansion better.

>>1718784
Stop, just stop.

>>1718774
I really have to look up the concept art for d3 right now. I love looking at stuff like that, especially for such a well designed game.

>>1718785
I think the imp and caco were as good as they were ever going to be while still somewhat resembling the original.

>>1718793

Nah.

>>1718779
Well that's my plan, to use the assets of it and ideas in it to launch into something bigger, but I want to wait on the next bit just to see what I'm working with

>>1718770

>large brown thing that you can't see well

That sums up most Doom 3 monsters. I also didn't think they were demons. I thought they were mutants and that D3 was following the storyline from the movie. They don't really strike me as demonic.

>>1717702
god DAMN it they changed it? Fuck, is there someplace to watch a restream or something or am I gonna have to wait weeks for the youtube channel to update?

>>1717736
check the OP

>>1718808
It's on SDA's stream right now, as we speak, they're pretty deep in the run

>>1718096
yeah, the new Shotgun is just plain better than the Super Shotgun, there's literally no reason not to use it. Which is weird, since he also nerfed the Plasma Rifle iirc, so it's like he only wants you to use 2 weapons...

>>1718784
>Shotgun by SgtMarkIV, Edited by Mike12
>Shotgun BY SgtMarkIV
>EDITED by Mike12
...
This has been irking me for a while. I have the original sheet right here. If anything, it's the other way around (he changed the hand and muzzle flash to be consistent with the rest of the mod)

>>1718757
Mark mention a V21 already.

>>1718819
I thought the aim was to make no weapon feel useless, that's why the pistol was removed.

>>1718823
no, no, no
you see
first it was assault rifles (c) sergeant mark iv
now shotguns (c) sergeant mark iv

he reinvented the entire concept of what it meant to be a shotgun

>>1718828
But the SSG and Chaingun are almost made completely useless by their earlier variants, the Rocket Launcher is damn near worthless, etc.

>>1718819
Super Shotgun can instakill Mancubi/Revenants(Not talking about them getting cut in half)/Hell Knights/Barons of Hell/Pain Elementals/Cacodemons and Arachnotrons.

Super Shotgun is very very powerful.

>>1718826
the poor man will never be free

rip in peace

>>1718826
Jesus, is he ever satisfied? I mean I can appreciate perfectionism in a design but damn

>>1718836
But the regular shotgun can do it about as fast, and you'll have enough shots to kill 4 more.

>>1718837

Watch as nobody gets this reference.

>>1718853
I get it, I didn't know he was a BR

>>1718849
>Can do it about as fast
Statistically impossible.

Takes two or three headshots to kill everything with a head listed there with the exception of Revenants.

Takes more than a few shots for Cacos and Pain Elementals.

Super Shotgun kills them in one jump headshot

>>1716642
dat midriff

>>1716649
You're never actually on Mars in Doom though, you're on Phobos and Deimos, both moons of Mars, presumably either terraformed, or the crater the bases are built in has pressurized domes (like in the novels).

Hell is hell, can't speak for that.

>>1718861
To its credit that one shotting of cacos has been a life saver, and executing pain elementials saves of the headache of explosions anf lost souls

>>1718773

>The people who actually created the game probably don't give a shit if anyone pirates it in 2014

"Probably" is not the perfect word...they SIMPLY don't give a damn. And people refuse to accept this.

>>1718503
>unlike doom3 with cambell and swann and bravo team and bertruger and sarge and whoever the heck else. no humans, just the forces of hell and you (and a massive pile of heavy ordinance).

I think this would be fine if contact was cut off about 1/4 of the way or less through the game, then the rest of the game it's obvious that you are on your own.

I think it would serve to underscore how alone you are, since it would have more impact than nobody there from the beginning.

>>1718876
Yeah, I would like this too.

>>1718876
yeah i would be fine if they introduced some characters to establish the setting, some ai partners could be interesting too.

sup Doomguys, I updated the metroid map again,

https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/20454382/MetroidMap-v1.3c.wad

Let me know if anything bothers you or any bugs you find.

>>1718873
People can't comprehend some one not taking every chance they can to suqeeze money from a game and lord around an achievement

>>1718883
And then your AI gets posessed...

>>1718905
yeah, zombie marines that can actually strafe and have a good amount of health would be interesting too

>>1717427
>>1718318
It's from Rise Of The Triad you silly geese!

>>1718913
Doom 3 did that.
It was okay I guess.
But I hope they don't add that retarded aim punch.

>>1718913
Well BD does have them role some times, maybe have them do that a bit more, have a few armored up, posessed, defected or just space crazy, fellow marines who can run and fight like you can

>>1717510
>>1717507
>>1717505
>>1717502
I'll admit, I thought that was cool as shit when I saw it, and Hexen did a bunch of cool tricks with the engine, but the gameplay was just not at all satisfying to me.

>>1718893

Really diggin' it so far.
How do I get out of this area, though, after getting the secret missile tank? It seems the only close ledges are those tiny ones on the pillars.

>>1718938

whoops forgot pic

>>1718925
no i mean like zombie marines that move as fast as doomguy and do more than just roll around a corner and shoot at you until you kill them

>>1718942
the small ledges around the pillars you have to be careful not to fall down

http://a.pomf.se/cdclfj.mid open with WMP

The IDgames music folder is pure gold.

>>1718428
Really? Because this is what google trends gave me

>>1718952
>>1718893

Also, awesome boss fight--that room was really well set up.
Is it possible to turn the fences into thin sectors, though, rather than impassable walls? First reaction on picking up the space jump was to try and leap over the fence to get to them, but it ended up dumping me in the lava.

>>1718963
Love him, hate him, spit on him, fuck his mother, give him money, whatever, the guy's done a lot for the doom community.

</whiteknight>

>>1718976
How do you expect to be seen as anything but a troll when proof like this exists?
>>1718784

>>1718982
Oh god he took sprites from other people? CALL THE FUCKING INTERNET POLICE

>that's been done for years by everyone and their mother
>He should be more humble in crediting them, but other than that I give zero fucks

>>1718984
>that's been done for years by everyone and their mother

Except those people either
1.Give credit.
2.Get their shit pushed in because pretty much no one condones that behavior in this community.

>>1718965

Alright, i'll see what i can do

>>1718965
Everyone misses the hidden energy tank :>

>>1718963
Thanks Obama

Link for anyone doubting which one is true:
http://www.google.com/trends/explore#q=%2Fm%2F02ckk%2C%20%2Fm%2F02mjmr&cmpt=q

>>1718963
lol, purists getting blown the fuck out by irrefutable evidence

>>1718976
>brought in a wave of mouthbreathing idiots that refuse to play anything other than MUH BRUTAL and bitch when other mods don't work with it
>took credit for way more work than he actually did, outright stole some assets
>code is absolutely unreadable and is the worst possible thing for a new modder to learn from
>got his overly aggressive ass permanently banned from both ZDoom and Zandronum forums, resulting in crybabies demanding justice4mark
He's cleaned up his act more recently around here (manners-wise, anyway. still stealing resources whenever he can), but now faggots like you have started to become more and more common, so I'm not sure I like that.

>>1718995

OH SHIT

OHHHHH SHIT

FUCKING WRECKED

>>1718987
>this community
You are in /vr/, we don't give a fuck unless someone claims ownership of shit they didn't make.

>>1718995
holy shit

>>1718828
Burl Tumd pistol still feels pretty powerful and I use it a lot.

>>1718963
>>1718995
nigga got told

>>1718995
Amazing.

>>1719002
Yeah actually we do, we had this discussion in the last thread. Don't speak for everyone faggot.

>>1718995
ROFL

>>1718873
>@RichardGarriott
Fuck yes Ultima.

>>1718995

>>1718995
I don't get it.

>>1719019
look at the graph he's replying to

>>1719019
the guy faked the Brutal Doom search results

>>1719019
He's shitposting along with everyone else, i don't even get those results typing those terms in to a tee.

>>1719024
You have to select the topics, or follow the link

>>1719020
>>1719023
How can you even tell in the first place?

Was someone just randomly looking through a comparison between Doom and Barack Obama as a coincidence?

>>1719027
I typed in the terms, saw he's full of shit about BD and then typed in stuff that's actually popular. My first guess was Occupy Wall Street, which it wasn't, then Barack Obama was my second (lucky) guess.

>>1719024

Sure you don't. I just checked for myself.

Face it.
You got caught, nigger.

http://www.google.com/trends/explore#q=%2Fm%2F02ckk%2C%20%2Fm%2F02mjmr%2C%20ZDoom%2C%20GZDoom%2C%20Brutal%20Doom&cmpt=q

>>1719014
No we don't. Don't speak for everyone faggot.

>>1719026
Okay i see it now, it's still shitposting at this point.

>>1719032
But i'm not him.

>>1719027
Not to mention, it's one of the first terms suggested when you click on the search bar. Not exactly rocket science.

Also, if you want to get the exact same results as the picture, make sure you click 'search term' on Doom and Barack Obama, and press '1993 Video Game' and '44th U.S President' respectively.

>>1719030

Needs work.

Is there a limit to how much detail they can have in GZDoom? If not then go all out. Pretend it's a AAA game.

>>1719032
Zdoom, GZdoom and Brutal Doom are all contributing to Dooms trend. Except Barak Obama, thanks Obama.

What we have learned today: BDfags will literally make up shit on the spot to justify Mark and his abomination of a mod
He is Phil Fish at this point
and his fanbase are the equivalent of Sonicfags

>>1719027
>How can you even tell in the first place?
Why don't you test it for yourself, shitbird?

http://www.google.com/trends/

>>1718998
>stealing

>>1719041
Or, you know, he could just be trolling.

>>1718995
How did you know?

>>1719045
I did and I didn't understand it.

I am not clever.

>>1719041
>his abomination of a mod

That's too far. I think it's better to call it a mixed bag. See my review at:

>>1718096
>>1718106

>>1719054
see
>>1719027
>>1719031
>>1719038
>>1719045

>>1719061
Good guess then

>>1719030
why is it a cyborg? not complaining I'm just confused

>>1719067
Cacodemons finally got into the cybertech that Cyberdemons and Spiders get to use.

>>1719065
I actually guessed it because of what >>1719038 pointed out

>>1719057
Google Trends shows a graph of search terms' popularity over time.

Brutal Doom is barely a blip on Google's radar. The guy who posted >>1718963 just typed in "Barack Obama" and photoshopped it to say Brutal Doom. What you're looking at there is the popularity of Barack Obama versus various Doom-related things.

>>1718963
>>1718995
It's only like that because google isn't tallying all of its trends by that specific search result, in this case "1993 video game" isn't giving the proper hits plus the fact that doom is a pretty common term word so that skewers the results further.

I don't see how this proves anything based on that.

>>1719070
a Cacoborg

>>1719075
It's not a specific search term, it's google's "search topic" whatever that means. It pops up when you start typing doom.

also >>1719074 is what it proves

>>1719075
It doesn't prove anything about the game - it just proves that >>1718963 is a faggot.

>>1719075
>I don't see how this proves anything based on that.

This proves that we've had someone jerkin' our gerkin' and intentionally trying to either A: Rile people up, or B: Act as Mark's personal onahole.
Coincidentally, they're both completely indistinguishable.

>>1719084
I feel like half the BD shills are trolls trying ti ruin the image of the people who like it

So we can all agree that Smooth Doom is the best "vanilla enhancement" mod out there, right?

At this point, any mention of Brutal Doom should be treated with suspicion. People have been bringing it up and arguing about it all fucking day, constantly.

Gee, reminds me of someone else who posts here, and constantly brought a certain thing up, even if it didn't relate to the topic being discussed...

Things I learned today:

Only a handful of /vr/doomers are capable of reading Google Trends graphs.

Remember:
Report and ignore.

>>1719094
>Only a handful of /vr/doomers are capable of reading Google Trends graphs.

I admit I can't make heads or tails of them or know what they mean.

This thread

>>1719097
you seriously can't read a graph? Have you gone to Highschool?

We all know Barack Obama really prefers TF2.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RPMEKxT2Xv8

>>1719101

What do the lines mean exactly? There's no labels for y axis.

>>1719098
>made a really awesome map for a really awesome mod
>is getting completely ignored in favor of faggots being faggots

feels bad man

>>1719090
As someone who likes muh BURTEL DUM I gotta agree, half the points are going to the haters at this point.

>but it's still a fun mod
>I like brutal
>I still grew up playing vanilla
>I still like vanilla
>Fuck everyone

MODS PLEASE FUCKING HELP

>>1719110
Are you the guy with the Metroid Map? I was actually gonna get that started in a couple minutes here

>>1719112

Generally everyone agrees that BURLT is just another gore and gameplay mod. Some people like it, some people don't. Whatever, right?
The problem is the faggots that keep insisting that it's the way id wanted Doom to be and that it's vanilla 2.0.

Mark's ego doesn't help either, but the fanbase is the big fucking problem.

>>1719109
Number of searches. The guy faked searches using bots to make BD seem more popular Obama

You know what, fuck it.

Report any and all mentions of Brutal Doom until this guy goes away.

>>1719110
Don't sweat it anon, We all the people here are not gonna change so just roll with it, its quite amusing i find, plus I'm making a new area thats connected to the lava sector, the bridge leading to the boss fight is there temperately, The dear where the mancubus is the sector connector.

Pick which song would you like to hear in the new sector

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IbcZmaus6g0

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bbeiqkq8Sz0

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DIcn67RfLQw

I like these three but I dont know which to use :[

>>1719118
I can live with modders being dicks, as long as they provide I want complain because their personal lives don't concern me much, the shills both real and fake ruin it for both sides though

>>1719126
>the dear

I mean "door" goddamnit

>>1719118
>It's not overrated you just don't happen to like it as much as some other people do
>I like, it so it isn't overrated!

>overrated: Given an undue amount of credit for quality or merit in a field
Yep, that fits alright.

>>1719109
>interest over time

>>1719126
Upper Brinstar has the whole DooM feel to it.

>>1719118
>The problem is the faggots that keep insisting that it's the way id wanted Doom to be and that it's vanilla 2.0.

It is. Doom 4 will borrow much from it.

>hdoom techdemov5
>dem demons
>whyboner.exe

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>>1719126

Brinstar's a better tune, but Maridia is creepier, which is seemingly the vibe you're going for.

I vote for those.

>>1719126
if its plants, Brinstar
if its water, Maridia
if its lava, Norfair

>>1718893
i keep having the download fail, its really getting frustrating

GOD DAMN WHY IS EVERYONE BITCHING ABOUT DOOM

FUCK IT I'M GONNA WATCH SGDQ
DAMN IT ALL I MISSED DOOM 64
RAGE RIP AND TEAR

know there isn't a source port for blood but is there any way to play it on windows 7 outside of dosbox cause it lags quite a bit

>>1719140
we can all agree on HDoom,

>>1719158
Hey, at least Heretic, Doom, Quake and Metroid is tomorrow

When I'm working

Has brutal doom set back how people see Doom and doom mods?

>big dumb pew pew pew
>this is all doom is
>completely mindless

disgusting

can the damage be undone?

>>1719172

Yes.

>>1719118
>calling Brutal Doom "Burl Tumd" when there's an actual mod called Burl Tumd

That gets really confusing. :/

>>1719120
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>>1719154
Seems to work with everyone else, If someone else also has this problem, i'll upload it elsewhere

>>1719178
it worked for me finally after like 10 tries

>>1719048
>taking things other people made without asking
>not stealing

>>1719120

>i support censorship

>>1719182

The credits fully list source.

>>1719172
>big dumb pew pew pew
that IS all doom is though. its not a bad thing but i dont really see your point here

Just wanna say this; Mark's ego finally healed he's not as smug as before. Then we sit here discussing if it's overrated or not, thrilling Mark to answer this shitload of bullcrap.
I say as long as Mark's fine, let's not discuss over BD being overrated or not. It's a fine mod as it is, and I say it's fun as well. That sounds like a deep down elitism after a while.

>>1719189
He's trying to start shit again. REPORT HIM.

>>1719187

You mean these credits, right?
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>>1718784

The ones that list him as doing work he didn't do and splat his name all over everything?

>>1719192

>lists things he's done
>lists things other people have done

How is that wrong?

>>1719191
i just got here, what? all i'm saying is that doom at its core is about shooting stuff and i dont see how a mod about shooting stuff somehow tarnishes its reputation

>>1719196
>The ones that list him as doing work he didn't do
>How is that wrong?
>The ones that list him as doing work he didn't do
>How is that wrong?
>The ones that list him as doing work he didn't do
>How is that wrong?
>The ones that list him as doing work he didn't do
>How is that wrong?
>The ones that list him as doing work he didn't do
>How is that wrong?
>The ones that list him as doing work he didn't do
>How is that wrong?
>The ones that list him as doing work he didn't do
>How is that wrong?

>>1719196
You are dense.

>>1719205
>>The ones that list him as doing work he didn't do

{{citation needed}}

>>1719214
see
>>1718823
also still no credits for marty kirra's kicking boot

>>1718996
>purists
>people using g/zdoom

I think we went over this already. Both of these things do not compute

>>1719220
pretty sure that was just traced from duke's foot so why even give credit

>>1719229

HAHAHAHAHA OH WOW

>>1719201

Thoughts going on in Doom player's mind:
>I have the blue card. How do I get the yellow one?
>I checked left and right. Now where?
>An arch-ville? Shit I need cover.
>I'm running low on shotgun ammo. I need to conserve it. Better switch to the chaingun.
>A room of a pain elemental, imps, zombies, two revnants? Who do I go for first?

Brutal doom player's mind:
>AND THEN I TORE THE HEAD OFF THE DEMONS FACE
>EAT THIS SHOTGUN
>HIS HEAD CAME OFF! NEATO!
>THAT IMP EXPLODED INTO BLOOD!
>OH MAN THE WALLS FULL OF BLOOD! COOL!
>CAN'T WAIT TO TELL MY FRIENDS AT SCHOOL ABOUT THIS!

>>1719172
I feel bad for Brutal doom in way. Its just a mod trying to be, well, as BRUTAL s possible, like the comics. It's zany fun but it sadly has hurt the reputation of doom modding.

>>1719242
>has hurt the reputation of doom modding.

that seems like complete hyperbole. how could it have hurt anything?

>>1719241
the fuck? outside of combat the mechanics are exactly the same. do you really think there's no challenge or strategy to playing brutal doom even though its more difficult than vanilla?

>>1719241
But Brutal Doom doesn't change any of the base gameplay. You still have to navigate levels, conserve ammo, fight enemies with the same patterns, look for secrets, etc.

All Brutal Doom does is change HOW you go about doing that, to make it a bit more visceral and well... BRUTAL. Hell, it actually makes the game HARDER by giving enemies more attacks, stronger attacks, nerfs some guns, etc. I'll be the first to say it isn't the definitive experience and some maps and wads are entirely broken by the things it adds in, but it in no way subtracts from the core experience.

So your problem is with the PEOPLE who play the mod, not the mod itself.

>>1719248
If it creates so much butthurt here, I have no idea how much it does elsewhere

>>1719252
>Hell, it actually makes the game HARDER by giving enemies more attacks, stronger attacks, nerfs some guns, etc
>but it in no way subtracts from the core experience.

Yes, nerfed guns and stupid enemy behavior in no way subtracts from Doom's experience.