/vr/ - Retro Games

>>1711763
It gets slightly better with X3.... Picks on again nicely with X4 though. X1 really set the bar too high.

>>1711763
Jesus Christ, I'm sleepy. Forgive the poor phrasing
Also, general megaman/megaman x thread!

>>1711763
>The series get better in X3?
No, it gets worse.

>>1711768
>It gets slightly better with X3.
X3 had the worst music of the entire Snes trilogy.

>>1711768

Mostly this. People have a severe to-the-ass, love or hate relation with X4 though.

I loved it myself, from the design to the music, but whatever.

If you go to X3, play one of the 32-bit versions instead. The game is the same, but the music is way the fuck improved.

>>1711763
>there is no reason at all for Sigma being alive again?
Looks like someone didn't stay for the whole credits of the first X. Sigma says he'll be back soon, and stronger. And that he'll only keep getting stronger. You do realize he lives as a virus, right?
>>1711782
I disagree, X3 is my favourite. I find it the most interesting. But don't get me started on the "arranged" version on the ps1 and MMX Collection, I fucking hate it so much.
X4 is really good, too, at least as Zero. Why they gave X a little girly voice in that is beyond me. They seemed to focus much, much more on Zero's story in that one.
X5 is even pretty good, although the music isn't very good, for the most part. Also focuses much more on Zero.
X6 is for masochists. I like it, but I understand why most people wouldn't. It's a good challenge all around [except for rescuing all the fucking reploids]

>>1711810
Oh great.
I'll check the credits scene again

>>1711810
then X7 is shit and X8 is decent, right?
Also, I get it now, the Sigma virus and stuff. He's more like the spirit of evil or the embodiment of the impulse to aggression or something like that

>>1711828
>He's more like the spirit of evil or the embodiment of the impulse to aggression or something like that
Maybe? Also he's a robot policeman who punched Zero in the head and let all the crazy out, I guess. I dunno.

>>1711828
>then X7 is shit and X8 is decent, right?
Who told you that? X7 is total shit and X8 is slightly less shit, still shit though, especially with x's gay friends being playable. The X franchise went down the sonic road hard with the x series. Just like with sonic everything after the third game is shitty friends and crappy animu drama

>>1711887

>crappy animu drama

That was a staple from the very first game, anon, from when the pretty blonde bishonen saved the spunky, headstrong rookie in the intro.

Only diff is they had more resources to use on it later.

>>1711798
>X3 had the worst music of the entire Snes trilogy.
I wish the people with this horribly incorrect opinion would elaborate. Do you have an actual basis on what makes music good or do you just not like it? I'm not gonna fill in the blanks for you either.

>inb4 it just sounds like fucking doodoo butter

>>1711763
X3 is an odd duck and can easily be judged as basically the same or only just slightly better than X2.

X4 is honestly very underrated, it's the only game in the X series that can rival the first for sheer quality and surpasses it in presentation.
Something must be said for how the game manages to be equally fun and awesome playing as both X and Zero when they play wildly different.

>>1712074
>Megaman X1 is the best X game

Everyone says this and I don't get why.

Is it pure nostalgia? X2 and X3 both have a lot more to offer then X1.

>>1712087
it's not pure nostalgia.

It's just that when you really pick these games apart, content or ideas they toyed with or added in X2 / 3 don't really succeed in making a "better" game. They are by no means bad...it's just that I feel the first game to really do something worthwhile to truly improve upon the first is X4 with it letting you play 100% the whole game as Zero.

>>1712069
I share your frustration on that one.
I love X3's soundtrack. I find it very fitting for each stage. [ talking about SNES version ]
Gravity Beetle, Blast Hornet, Blizzard Buffalo, and my favourite track Toxic Seahorse. Fucking awesome songs. Dopplers stages have good music as well. Then the fights with Sigma, it makes it feel like you're fighting an overwhelming power. Good stuff. Also can't leave out Zero's theme in the game, it's my person favourite of all of Zero's themes.

X1 is fucking amazing but people need to move passed it and appreciate the other great X games as well.

X1>X3>X2
fite me

>>1712116
>SNES version
>Blizzard Buffalo
This is one of the most abrasive songs I have ever heard in a video game. If you don't recognize how grating this track is, there is something wrong with your brain.

>>1712087
Best music, actually useful boss weapons, least amount of backtracking bullshit to get everything.

It's only sin is being a little too easy.

>>1712125
Honestly, I don't mind it nearly as much as Tunnel Rhino's theme.

>>1712126
I'd argue that its only real flaw is that you don't have the dash right out of the gate, and you can't NOT get the dash.

Should've just replaced that enhancement with something more interesting.

>>1712137
they had to put the dash in there like they did though, otherwise you may not have known the capsules existed. coming from nes mega man i wouldn't have searched the stages like i did for capsules if one wasn't given to me.

i never played x3 in the 90s, and because of that I find it incredibly difficult. just running x1 casually i can beat it in just over an hour with no deaths and all upgrades, because I've been playing it for over 2 decades. I get rekt on x3

X2 had a Shoryuken. It also had the CRUSH.

Best X game.

>>1712125
>doesn't like Blizzard Buffalo's theme
>didn't imagine being in a frozen wasteland and pushing against the elements
>>didn't care for what the music was trying to communicate to him
>didn't have the song reach his inner body and have his senses simulate cold even though he was still in the house

Doin' it all wrong

>>1712183
That's like saying http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sC0cvwnG0Ik is good because it really emphasizes the craziness of the bus

>>1712187
>he doesn't like the crazy bus theme
are you fucking kidding me

>>1712069
I thought it was needlessly downtuned. X1 used plenty of high pitched instruments and was still metal as fuck. Some songs are also ungodly repetitive (like one or two riffs with no solos), whereas in X1 most if not all the songs are a minute long with very little repetition in between. Ergo, I don't want to kill myself within 20 seconds of listening.

>>1712187
I like this immensely.

Maybe I browse /mu/ too much.

>>1712243
Songs in X1 and X3 are about the same length, actually.

I think the problem with X3 might be entirely in the instruments and transcription. I mean, the original Blizzard Buffalo is physically painful but this is what it was supposed to sound like: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z3PJyiKxQhY

>>1712264
Hell, even the Playstation remix is tolerable.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MqMtZoy89ps

You just played the best game in the franchise OP. It only gets worse than there. You could play X3 too, but don't touch anything after that with a 10-foot pole.

>>1712264
Shiaaat, x3 soundtrack composed by hot jmilf
x3 redeemed

>>1712160
>CRUSH only useful against tiny enemies
>it does NOTHING to any boss

>>1712672
Not necessarily.

>>1712103
Agreed. Although the game was challenging if you didn't follow the prescribed order, as defeating certain reploids take the teeth out of some stages (e.g. defeating Chill Penguin freezes the lava in Flame Mammoth's stage). Additionally, yes the special weapons in X1-X3 were generally useless except to have an easy time with bosses.

I wasn't a fan of X3 because of too much back-tracking and the mega buster 'upgrade' felt like a downgrade -- X2's mega buster upgrade was my favorite one with dual shots.

I dislike massive backtracking in general, though. It's a cheap way for developers to attempt to make the player feel like there's more content, but really it's just annoying gopher tasks at the end game.

>>1712672
confirmed for never beating game

>>1712069
Guitar spam. X2 (and X1 even) has many instruments they could have chosen from, but instead it's just GUITARS GUITARS GUITARS for lead, backing, and everything

>>1711763
Pic related is the last and in my opinion the best game in the entire series. It's a remake of X1 but with just enough enhancements and new tricks to hold its own, plus you can play as Vile.

>>1712991
Also if you can get past some of the needless backtracking, X4 and X5 are pretty good in my book too.

>>1712991
Jesus what a revolting opinion. That remake was garbage.

Random question.
But are the mega man games for the saturn worthwhile?
Wanting to import them after playing x1.
Just wondering if anyone has an experience with them.

>>1713072
Supposedly they are superior to their PS1 counterparts, but I've never owned a Saturn and don't have the patience to attempt emulating it. I do know I prefer Tengu Man's theme on the Saturn version of Mega Man 8.

>>1711763
In the Japanese version, Sigma tells you to meet him at the Central Computer area where you fought Magna Centipede, since the X-Hunter's base is destroyed (everything was blowing up once you beat the 8 Mavericks again). The map sprite changes IIRC and the map's camera does move up and focus on the destroyed X-Hunter base, but it still teleports you to where Sigma challenged you. Sigma doesn't say anything about where to meet him in the English version. X2 generally has a pretty bad translation job, leaving details out like that and basically everything about Serges, which is why you felt like it was rushed. It wasn't, it was just a shit translation job.

Generally, whichever X series games people tend to like the most varies. They're all worth at least trying, and you'll even find a couple of people who like X7. I'm fond of X1-6 for different reasons and find they're all good games in their own ways.

And while not retro, I'll add that X Command Mission is a pretty fun JRPG, if you're into those kinds of games.

>>1713024
I'm sorry to hear that. Why didn't you like it?

MX was just too perfect. It redefined its own genre and it killed it at the same time. It was the RE4, Ninja Gaiden Black, FZero GX of its genre

All the people who played those games are cursed with eternal disappointment

>>1712984
I did newfag, even got the shoryuken move, (never been able to obtain it before when we rented the game me and my cousin when he came to vacation to where i live)

>>1711763
>A Capcom sequel being a rehash
You don't say?

>>1712687
>Useful against serges
>When Silk shot kills the cannons in one hit anyways.
Yeah...

>>1713356
>It was the RE4, Ninja Gaiden Black, FZero GX of its genre

I played all that stuff in its day and still enjoy modern stuff.

And RE4 didn't redefine shit, its just killed the genre completely.

Fitting that the series that started the genre was the one to destroy it.

>>1713426
>Fitting that the series that started the genre

Alone in the Dark arguably started the genre, if you don't count games like Sweet Home or War of the Dead survival horror being RPG's