/vr/ - Retro Games

>>1702064

My personal favorite JRPG Chrono Cross.

>>1702064
Let me see. Bof 3 and 4 are good, Seiken Densetsu 3, Bahamut Lagoon, Terranigma are some decent ones

secret of mana series, tales series, breath of fire series, ys series, tresure of rudras and many many more those are just snes what console are you looking for

>>1702078
Oh, and I forgot, Super Mario RPG, and Paper Mario.

>>1702064
You posted it.

Shining Force series <3

Can we just have a JRPG thread?

panzer dragoon saga phantasy star series
yes jrpg thread would be nice. Neutopia, Landstalker its sequel alundra

Lufia 2.

Suikoden?

Tales of Destiny

I'm really loving SaGa Frontier for the PS1, especially its gameplay. I also really loved BoF2, but I can't say much about 3 or 4 because I haven't played them enough to judge.

>>1702064
Dragon Warrior IV

>>1702151

>Not Dragon Quest

I'll allow it.

Shenmue

Oh, is it that time again?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d3hhxewK2Dw&index=13&list=PLDf5rbhJzPT2zpJg-SuytuDoYYL3ginI_

>>1702167
Interesting pick. I have the game and I love the whole internet thing inside it. Everytime I try to play the game, I just everything there is to be read, play a few stages and end up dropping it.

I'm a huge /m/an, so I must try to beat it eventually.

>>1702167
Front Mission 3 is absolutely fucking amazing.

inb4 disc 2

>>1702194
Disc 2 isn't even that bad. It still had like 15-20 hours of content, which could've easily tripled if they added in dungeons for EVERY scene that mentions them in disc 2.

People are under the assumption that they ran out of money or some shit even though there's no evidence to support this, nor are games even developed in such a linear way that they would randomly have to abandon shit only at the end of the game.

7 years ago, a good friend of mine recommended me to play the first Grandia. I got immersed by the plot and battle system. I heard G2 was better in all regards, but Grandia had a really good impression on me.

>>1702220
Grandia 2 was really, really good, and I somehow forgot it was one of my favorite retro jrpgs until you mentioned it.

>>1702201
There's a LOT of evidence that the game was rushed both from an unused asset perspective and missing narrative perspective, anon.

Nobody on the dev team said it was rushed, true - but nobody's said it wasn't either.

So, for now, we must conclude that for some reason, parts of Xenogears that were planned weren't finished.

Tales of Phantasia

>>1702220
Grandia 2 improved on the battle system a lot, but otherwise I hold a preference for 1.

>>1702064
one of the saga games

>>1702319

I like Grandia III

>>1702314
Mój czarny brat.

Well, that was an easy choice to make.

>>1702695
correct

>>1702695
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0F-hJjD3XAs

Too bad my brother cleared the memory card when he was young. Made me give up on the game

>>1702064
Breath of Fire 3. No contest.

>>1702745
going to have to agree with this. BoF3 ruled my life when I was younger. got into it way more than any FF or chrono game.

dem dragon genes (also fairy village)

>>1702761
Can you believe IGN only gave Breath of Fire 3 a rating of 7.5? Game Informer only gave it an 8. :/ PSM gave it a great score, though.

I'll never understand why this game wasn't more popular. Maybe it just didn't have the name or reputation? For my money, it's still the most underrated game ever. It's the most complete RPG I ever played. It looks and sounds amazing, plays great,... it's a perfect ten.

This was my favorite tune from the game.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=61KBFeF-apw

>>1702739
If you want to pick it up again, you should play the GCN version; it's got extra content and reduces the amount of grinding the DC's had.

Suikoden II

Lufia 2.
Story is simple, but it's enough to tug you along.
Gameplay is 'very' solid.
Bunch of optional stuff to do.
Plenty of stuff to find and collect.

>>1702770

It got a mediocre translation.

>>1702064
My contenders are Suikoden II, Lufia II and Breath of Fire II/IV.

>>1702804
this

>Literally no love for Live A Live
It's one of those games /vr/ hates, isn't it.

Lufia 2

Lufia 3 is my favorite

>>1702889
Nah. Live A Live is cool man, but not really great. At least, not for me.

>>1702695
Shittiest. Game. Ever.

>>1702889
I quite like LAL. Some chapters were pretty underwhelming though. It's good, just not great like >>1703186 said.

>>1703376
Any additional comments? I loved the world and concept. The music, the atmosphere, the characters. Its only downfall is the disgustingly high encounter rate. BoF2 has the same problem.

>>1702064
seiken densetsu 3

phantasy star

>>1703561
I say this every time: I detest its gameplay. I don't like being led by the hand from point A to point B only to be disallowed from leaving point B until I fulfill requirement 2 so that I can be taken to point C to repeat the same tedium without being allowed to travel back to point A or explore other areas until way, way later in the game.

Basically, the fact that the game has near-zero free-roaming or exploration makes it just... not for me.

Plenty of jRPGs are linear, near all of them, actually, but they generally allow the player to explore a bunch of things, too, before fullfilling whatever requirement is necessary to advance the story and map. I dislike that SoA keeps you stuck in about 5-6 screens worth of play area at a time before taking you to the next 5-6 screens worth of play area, blocking the player from exploring at will.

It's the same gripe I have with several other jRPGs and /especially/ the GB/GBC Zeldas.
There are exceptions to this rule, jRPGs that use this sort of expanding world model of gameplay that I still like, but they're few. Very, very few.

The encounter rate doesn't bother me much. Muh first jRPGs were FFI and PS1, so I'm used to laughably frequent encounters.

>>1702064
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qg1VEV4QhtA

Star Ocean the second story.
Suikoden I/II
Also loved the original Breath of Fire back then.

>>1702067
It's my second favorite (after FFVI), but I assumed since op said no Chrono Trigger he meant the whole series

Tecmo Secret of the Stars

>>1703186
It kicks the shit out of Final Fantasy but it's not my number one

>>1703647
>kathybatesasasmariedelphinelalaurieLIES.gif
That's a fuckawful game.

>>1703574
This tells me you didn't get very far into the game, because the overworld is quite large and you can explore wherever you want in it with your own pirate armada, visit any of the cities available, and hunt for hundreds of artifacts and treasures eventually. Also, are you that same guy that made that thread who punches his friend every time he mentions SoA?

>>1703986
Like I said: the game doesn't allow the player to
> explore other areas until way, way later in the game
I suppose you suggest I should dig it outta my storage unit (along with the DC) and give it another go?

And it wasn't a thread, it was a single post. And I don't punch him. I occasionally kick him in the shin. I get to kick him in the shin from time to time with no warning because I wasted muh munniez on that game at his suggestion.
He gets to kick me in the shin from time to time with no warning because he wasted his munniez on tickets for the Tim Burton Planet of the Apes remake at my suggestion.

When either of us kicks the other in the shin, we immediately know why.

Kicker: *kicks kickee in the shin*
Kickee: Ow! Arcadia/Planet of the Apes?
Kicker: Arcadia/Planet of the Apes.
Kickee: I deserve it.

>>1702167
>picking the worst game in the serious.

Thanks for the laugh.

>>1704042
Personally, I like to (try to) finish all the games that I start, so if I were you I would give it another shot. But do like that other anon said and play the Cube version instead for the changes.

azure dreams
>im not from here

Pinball Quest

>>1702167
playing through front mission 1 right now.. I'm amazed this series hasn't received more recognition. The quality is top notch

>>1704409
>the serious

>>1704494
It gets both better and worse from there. The first game was never localized outside of fans until the DS port, so that is probably a factor.

Xenogears, Phantasy Star 4, Breath of Fire 3 and 4, Legend of Dragoon, Suikoden 1 and 2.

Then there's all the great j-srpgs

>>1704486
>The only game to blend RPG and Pinball
Not quite JRPG, but it sure is interesting. Especially since it was actually localized unlike board game/RPGs.

>no Wild Arms 2 mentioned

How can you all be so fucking wrong?

>>1702889
Live-A-Live is a really amazing game. Unique presentation and some elements like stealth or playing as the villain that were way, way ahead of its time. The only thing that stops it from bearing the title of the best RPG in history bar none is the lack of replayability. Beating it is like reading a good book: you will read it and you will love it and you will be entranced by it, but once you do you will barely want to come back to it before years later when you profoundly forget it. The novelty is stunning and it is absolutely a must - must - play, but like all novelty it wears off and there's little the game offers to make you want to immediately replay it once you beat it. It's linear with little to no options but the presentation is great enough to make you sit through it just once and love every moment of it.

>>1704505
I feel like the whole mecha/robot thing never really caught on outside Japan either. I tried to get into FM4 when I was younger but didn't have the patience. This second time around I'm really realizing how much depth and character the game has. It's great.

>>1704494
>>1704505
>>1704534
We only ever got FM3 and 4 over here, and both went by really unnoticed. I was amazed we got the DS remake at all, but of course that sold like shit.

And it's a shame we never got 5 since it is so utterly amazing. Really the pinnacle of the series.

Too bad the franchise is dead now thanks to Evolved. Fuck Square.

>>1704537
is five translated? I'm playing the translated version right now on my flashcart, and damn it's one of the best looking games on the snes. there's limited 3d graphics, beautiful artstyle too. but yeah, fuck square. They went from being my childhood hero to whatever the fuck you want to call them now

>>1704550
I meant the translated version of FM1. can't stand GBA for the most part, all the games feel like watered down SNES games.

I don't even like Final Fantasy.

Mother 3?
Dunno if 2006 counts as retro

Romancing SaGa 2

>>1703376
Gr8 b8 m8 I r8 8/8

>>1705230

Why not 2? How good is 3 that it gets mentioned so much more than earthbound? I just finished 1 and I'm playing EB now. So far it's an improvement in every way.

>>1702770
Personally, I avoided the series back in the day because I really disliked the original BoF.

I've tried revisiting it recently because I loved Dragon Quarter, but haven't really been able to get into any of them. They all have such a high random encounter rate and such slow combat animations that it takes forever to get anywhere. BoF3 seemed like it might be alright if the childhood arc would ever end.

>>1702064
My personal pick would probably be Suikoden 2. I like Valkyrie Profile better, but it has much more significant flaws.

>>1704475
Azure Dreams was great, I particularly loved the town-building aspects and change in NPC dialogues/attitudes towards you as you got better and did more for the town.
I think the tower outlasted it's welcome around floor 25ish though.

>>1705276
M3 gets mentioned because it's relatively recently translated.

>>1704042
>I suppose you suggest I should dig it outta my storage unit (along with the DC) and give it another go?
I wouldn't suggest that. Accept that the game isn't for you, money comes and goes, and get over it.

Either you enjoy the reaction you get every time you talk shit on SoA, or you're way too caught up on something that should be one of the most unimportant events to ever take place in your life.

http://us.playstation.com/games/breath-of-fire-4-ps3-psp.html

What does PSN mean in terms of PSP games? Does it mean it's an official Sony format that's supposed to work for the PSP? Does it run natively on the PSP or does it still use some PSX emulator?

>>1705761
PSone Classics can be transferred across systems. They run on PSP via emulator, same as they do on any other PS system.

>>1705359
>dat either/or statement
Mostly the prior. It's a big joke between myself and that friend of mine who I kick in the shin. He lurks and posts on /vr/ and /ck/, so it's mostly for his amusement but also my own.

The reactions from its fans are a fun distraction as well, I must admit. To be frank, though I don't "get" the praise SoA receives, I don't mind who likes it (or even the fact that people do!). It's a fond memory for me, even if I don't like the game. It was laughably bad, and honestly, I do mean that in the best way possible. It's not a hipstery so-bad-it's-good,-oh-the-irony sorta thing. It's more like a it's a so-bad-that-it's-discomforting-and-funny sorta thing.
I played it MST3K-style, ribbing it and my friend as I chugged along the fuckawful gameplay.

>>1704462
What differs between the two?

>>1702064
Terranigma

SEGA Saturn has this great action RPG that looked like an Anime version of Herc's Adventures on the PS1.

Ugh, can't remember it so I'll just say Panzer Dragoon Saga.

>>1706186
Legend of Oasis?

>>1706214
That's the one. Thought it was really good.

Radia Senki
Shining in the Darkness
Sword of Vermillion
Lufia 1+2
Lennus I+2
Live a Live
Lunar 1+2

>>1705316
Wait, someone was able to love Dragon Quarter? I'm sorry, but the BoF series might not be for you, then.

>>1705226
I played Star Ocean 2 several times for the combat, different endings and such... but man that story always stuck in my craw. Like the first half of the game you're playing Claude standing on the sidelines being NTR'd by Rena and Dias.

"Oh hey Claude, just buying Dias a super powerful sword to fight you with, teehee!"

And then your friends tell you to quit being a dick when you get upset.

>>1702130
This motherfucker right here.

>>1706349
>Like the first half of the game you're playing Claude standing on the sidelines being NTR'd by Rena and Dias.
She's known Dias for years, you're just some asshole that appeared in the forest one day

>>1706431
Then she shouldn't be part of your group and just stick with Dias (ultimately dying). "You saved my life, but I've had a wide-on for Dias for years, and you only saved my life, so... yeah. I'm going to help him try to kill you. W-what? Leave the group!? WHY!?"

>>1705781
>What differs between the two?
Cube version:
+ Better grayfics
+ More content and characters (pic related)
+ Higher experience gain, so less grinding
- Worse sound quality

bump.

I like the Persona 2 games.

Play Innocent Sin first and then Eternal Punishment.

>>1706617
A much belated danke, Anon, for the 'splanation.

That character looks dumb, though.
I'd bet she smokes kretek just to make her lungs as black as her soul and wardrobe.