/vr/ - Retro Games

must haves would probably be Ocarina of Time, Super Mario 64, Smash Bros, Conker, Banjo Kazooie, Goldeneye, Majora's Mask, Mario Kart 64, Donkey Kong, and in my opinion the Pokemon Stadium games

>>1698194
>also a friend is selling me mischief makers for 10 bucks should i?
Yes. Buy that shit.

>>1698212

Look for a good deal on these games as there are a lot of people selling those games for a lot of money.

I'd say Mischief Makers is a solid platformer and easily worth that price.

A hidden gems on the console would be Hybrid Heaven. It's one of the few rpgs on the system, but has a very unique battle system that's difficult to master and all the secrets of it still haven't been found out yet. You string up combos and countering/resversing moves and puling some off feel like you're in a wrestling game.

Shadow Gate 64 is a great point and click adventure game, but you get to move around in real time in first person. While not a horror game persay, it has it's moments and great atmosphere.

Shadowman (note, a better version is on the Dreamcast, but this version gets the job done well enough, especially if you have the expansion pack) is a sort of 3D Metroidvania game. You explore the depths of hell and the rest of the underworld, and has a pretty dark story: not something you'd expect on a Nintendo console at the time. It's also very long: you easy spend several dozen hours trying to get everything in it. So, whatever price you pay for it, you'll likely get your money's worth in content.

Both Goemon games are highly recommended by almost everyone who has played them that I know of, though I haven't gotten to play them myself yet. Regardless, they might be worth looking into.
The system can be easily region(just got to gut out some plastic or swap out the back of a Jap game with a US one) modded to play Japanese game. Some choices for those would be the Shiren 2, Getter Love! (a party game/dating sim), Custom Robo, and Robopon, Sin and Punishment, and the Wonder Project J series (child raising sims).

>>1698212
This, although you could maybe pass on Goldeneye, at least in my opinion it hasn't aged very well. Kirby 64 is a must IMO and Paper Mario is one of the greatest games of all time, period. Harvest Moon 64 is that series at its best as far as I'm concerned so that's one to look out for.
Unfortunately the N64 was a small library of good games, but the games that are good are really really good.

>>1698228
>>1698212
>>1698216
>>1698238
thanks i will look on that
also whats the most i should pay for a 64 game?

>>1698228
Same fag. Continuing on with more games.

WinBack is the third person shooter that invent cover shooters and started the whole over the shoulder camera stuff. If you like those games, play this. Also, the multiplayer is pretty fun.

Wrestlemania 2000 is a great wrestling game. Many consider No Mercy to be better, but it has a has a glitch that will eventually delete all your save files, so I wouldn't recommend that.

Flying Dragon is a nice little fighting game, and two games in one. One is the 3D mode that is like Tekken, and the other is 2.5 and has equipment and powerups in the single player sorta like the DBZ Boudokai games.

Rakuga Kids is also a fine fighter, but some might be put off by the art style and its Pal and JAP only, though you don't really need to know moon speak for a fighting game.

Also the Snowboard Kids games are wonderful Mario Kart-esque racers. For something more realistic or traditional, there's always World Driver Championship and Ridge Race 64.

>>1698242
I don't know about online, since I mainly hunt at flea markets, but the most I ever payed for a non import N64 game was $25. As a general rule of thumb, I think when a non-rare retro game starts to approach modern retail price, I think it's time to back the fuck off.

I recommend just getting a flash cart. The games might not be for you, and you will pay out the ass for these first and second party titles. Games you should check out when you get that though, and they aren't obscure by any means, are; Super Mario 64, Super Smash Bros., Banjo Kazooie, Banjo Tooie, F-Zero X, Ocarina of Time, Majora's Mask, Maria Kart, Diddy Kong Racing, Harvest Moon 64, Doom 64, Quake 2 64, 007 - Goldeneye, Star Wars Episode I - Racer, Star Fox 64, Rayman 2 - The Great Escape, Paper Mario, Perfect Dark 64, Goeman's Great Adventure, Conkers Bad Fur Day, Mystical Ninja Starring Goeman, Pokemon Snap, Bomberman 64, and Mischief Makers. Donkey Kong 64, Pokemon Stadium 1 + 2, Kirby 64, and Yoshi's Story are bad games, to me at least, so just a warning since they wouldn't seem like they could possibly turn out bad.

Be sure to also get the RAM expansion pak.

>>1698242
10 - 20. You wont ever find them for these prices though, except for games like Quake 2 64 and the like, so seriously consider purchasing a flash cart.

Hybrid heaven is garbage, got terrible reviews. Forsaken is garbage.

>>1698251
I was mostly trying to recommend some lesser known stuff, but I second all of these except Diddy Kog Racing. However, Kirby 64 is my favorite game of all time, though honestly, I don't care that you don't like it.

I wasn't gonna say go for the ever drive since this guy is just getting an N64 and probably doesn't know if s/he should invest in it for something that expensive yet.

However, the SD card is also probably the best way to play the Wonder Project J 2 since it has a translation patch and it has game breaking bugs on most emulators. Also, nowadays, it's practically your only option minus emulation for Conker if you don't already own the game.

Winback, also garbage. Dig out some copies of n64 magazine from the uk. It's no super play but it's honest

>>1698268
If your only support for saying Hybrid Heaven is bad is reviews, then I guess you've never played it. Or do you believe reviewers to be infallible gods? If some of them don't something, nobody possibly ever could? Honestly, if OP gets unsure about Hybrid Heaven, they can just look up some videos as a preview.

>>1698274
*don't like something
>>1698274
Or better yet, try it out via emulation.

>>1698270
I don't even like those kinds of shooters, but some people do. Besides, the game was influential and thus worth mentioning.

>>1698250
Seconding Winback.
Played it well after release for the first time. Has a Metal Gear vibe to it. Pretty sweet.

>>1698287
isn't it on the PS2 as well? Wouldn't that version be better?

>>1698295
No, the SEQUEL is on the PS2.

Whatever you do, get F-Zero X. That's all I ask.

>>1698298
third-person shooter video game developed by Koei's Omega Force studio for the Nintendo 64 in 1999 and PlayStation 2 in 2001

the sequel is on the ps2 and xbox, released in 2006.

We really should make some sort of /vr/ official N64 reccommended list or something, also PS1... we have multiple weekly N64/PS1 reccommendation threads.

Glover
Tonic Trouble
Gex 64
Air boarder 64

>>1699012
Didn't we already do that before the split?

Granted, I think it could be expanded on a lot.

>>1699017

Yeah there's a lot more than that, also it's lacking japanese games.

>>1698194
Not OP. Few questions.

What are some of the better quality knock-off/3rd party controllers? I want ones that look identical to the N64 originals and not some even crazier spaceship designs. I can't find reviews for the shit I see on ebay. Same goes for rumble packs.

Does anyone have experience with ordering from retrogate? Ordered an everdrive from them a few days ago (3) and haven't even received a confirmation email. Used paypal.

>>1699017
This is a pretty good starter list. I think it would be good if /vr/ made a compilation though.

>>1699021
>>1699030

I actually mentioned J 2 at the beginning of the thread. >>1698228

Oh, something relevant is that in another thread, there's a thread that start as some autistic shitting on the N64 that basically turned into a challenge to name 50 good N64 games that aren't the obvious choices.

Here in the result >>1698370 which I made whilst barely conscious, and it actually has a fair amount of Japanese games in it. It might be useful for using to make a new recommendations list.

>>1699035

that's a pretty cool list.

There are a lot of japanese N64 games that are kind of unknown to most westerners. Dezaemon 3D is a pretty awesome "make your own shmup" game.

And modding the N64 to play japanese games is easy if you've got a gamebit, just open the N64 and chop off the 2 plastic brakers on the cart slot.

>>1699035
That's a good post too.

Maybe I'll try to make a compilation with the boxarts like >>1699017 and post it later for revisions/hostilities/opinions.

Mischief Makers is the best game on the N64.

>>1699039
Ooh, Dezaemon I didn't know about.

There's also another method, which is screwing the back of an American cart onto the Japanese cart you want to play.

>>1699054
This way, you can keep your dust protector.

>>1699059
But you demolish every single cart you want to play.

>>1699059

There's no need to take off the dust protector. Just open the N64, chop off the 2 plastics, then put the case back in. Dust protector never needs to even be touched.

>>1699063
Yeah, not a good idea.

>>1699063
What do you mean demolish?
The games work fine. And usually the sacrificial game is a game I'm tired of or is just bad, and I can just switch them back if I want to play that one again.

>>1699074

I'd never damage my Sin and Punishment or Bangai-O carts... they cost a lot more than a N64.

I just have 2 N64s, one of them is modded. Since I didn't have a gamebit, I opened it by using a knif and forced it... it looks a bit damaged on the back, but I don't really care as long as I can play japanese games on it, plus I still have the other N64.

>>1699074

Wait, I misread your post, I thought you meant cutting the edges of the japanese carts (I've seen people say they do that).
Yeah, that method is also viable, but it's kind of inconvenient, it's just easier to mod your N64.
Anyway to open up a N64 cart you also need a gamebit.

>>1699076
But how does that damage it? It's just screwing and unscrewing. If that decreased the value, I don't care. I'm never gonna sell Shiren 2 or Getter Love!! anyway.

>>1699086
Alrighty. I've actually never heard of a gamebit before the thread, and the cart trick was something I guessed on my own that just happened to work. Nice to know.

>>1699096

But how do you unscrew your N64 carts if you don't have a Gamebit?

>>1699102
A 3.8mm + 4.5mm security bit screwdriver. I think it's the same thing, with a different name.

>>1699112
Yeah, I've always known it as a security bit. Never heard gamebit before.

>>1699112

Oh, I see... I just used the pencil method to open up my N64 (rather rustic, I know)

>>1699128
>pencil method
I've never heard of this. Please explain. Sound frustrating to get right.

>>1699138
http://www.engadget.com/2006/11/18/mini-how-to-make-a-tool-to-breach-nintendos-security-screws/

Scroll down a bit.

Yes it was frustrating, and I must have used 4 or 5 pencils, but I really wanted to play my jap games and I couldn't find any screwer like that security bit you were mentioning.

>>1699151

>pencil

I meant pen, not pencils, sorry.

Beetle Adventure Racing

>>1699160
fuck off

>>1699163

Hey, what's wrong with BAR?

>>1699167
I don't like NESfaggot. He's a twat.

>>1699186

then call him out when he's being a twat instead of when he's suggesting good games

>>1699187
nah fuck him
note I'm saging, so it's not like I'm being disruptive
you don't like my post, don't reply son

Definitely get Mischief Makers.

As for other games, I'd recommend Doom 64, 007 games, Perfect Dark, Goemon, Harvest Moon 64, and the Bomberman games. Though if you love RPGs, the N64 is lacking in them, aside from Quest 64, but that's more of a failed attempt.

>>1699160
Whatever you do OP, play this.

This is probably the most obscure game i owned as a kid. I never heard anyone talking about it so i think its obscure. Its a blast its kind of a racing game where you move left or right and you climb stages, you can throw other players and do all kind of stuff to them

>>1699017
>people recommending castlevania 64
fucking finally oh my god, that game was amazing. I think the only reason people hate it is because the angry video game nerd crtitizised it on a video. Half the stuff james says is bullshit, last week his friend beated the impossible game back to the future 3 in 15 minutes.I wonder how much time did he spend doing the video

>>1699246
He over exaggerates for the comedic effect. He's done a "making of" video where he explains why he behaves the way he behaves and that he's not actually retarded and incapable of beating games.

Yes, half the shit he says is bullshit. He knows that.

>>1698251
Yoshi's story is garbage, I completely agree. I was expecting something fun and enjoyable, but it was shit.
I definitely recommend Kirby and the Crystal Shards if you like Kirby games though. It's fairly short, and definitely not the best in any way, but it's still fun.

>>1699232
Computer cheats like a motherfucker in that game. It's a blast with friends, though.

It's strange. No one talks about this game but I've found that it's not as obscure as it seems. I've met a few people who had the game.

>>1698194
Yes OP, buy it.

>>1699250
BUT HIS DUMB FANS DON'T

>>1699319
The only ones that I ever see take him seriously are the ones that bitch about how wrong he is.

>>1699295

I'd argue that Yoshi's Story is not as bad as most people say.

Generally the complaints are that it's too short and easy, but I think 24 levels (that aren't really short) make the game long enough, the problem is that the story mode was done poorly and only let you play through 6 of these 24 levels (which is why most people think it's so short, they play through the story mode only once and think that's it). But I blame the game designers for making the game like that, they should have made all 24 levels to be playable from the get go, or at least more than just 6.
And doing the all-melon run can be mildly challenging and fun.

I thought the game controls are incredibly smooth, in part thanks to the 60fps the game runs at, and also because they did a very good job at making the controls be very sensitive to the 3D stick's movement, games nowdays only have like 3 different speeds you can go on an action game: tiptoe, walk and sprint. in Yoshi's Story (and SM64 too, and probably other N64 games) you can gradually change the speed you want to go depending on how much you press the directional stick. Also, Yoshi's Story allows some very crazy and fast gameplay if you know what to do, the physics are really well handled and the momentum feels just right, there's many different ways you can direct your jump and landing. Also, you can direct Yoshi's tongue in 8 different directions, and manually direct the egg throwing, it makes the eggthrow in mid-air even better than on Yoshi's Island.

But I agree the game is not perfect and of course Yoshi's Island still can't be dethroned as the best Yoshi game, but anyway, I'll always defend Story because I genuinely think it's not as bad as many people say. It has a lot of merit on its own, without having to compare it directly to Island. I wish it was an original title instead of a Yoshi game, it would be remembered as a sweet obscure platformer like Mischief Makers or Tomba are.

>>1699391
this the game is actually pretty good. Its not designed to be mario, i think thats why people hate it

>>1699391
I had no idea why people hated it, I had a blast playing it, I just thought it was too short and simplistic.

>>1699319
>BUT HIS DUMB FANS DON'T
woah man, not sure what is worse- being a fan of avgn or hatemongering against something you could easily just ignore.

relax

>>1699410

But you actually thought it was short even after having unlocked all the levels?

I rented the game as a kid, beat the story mode in like an hour or two, and thought the game was short.

Then I got the game several years ago and actually started unlocking the game's levels and playing trial mode, that's when I started appreciating the game.

>>1699246
No, I vividly remember renting Castlevania 64 in 1998 and hating every minute of it, all the while being ridiculously jealous of my cousin who had a PlayStation and Symphony of the Night.

>>1699391

It's certainly no Yoshi's Island, but compared to the rest of the N64's library it's aged quite well, thanks largely to its simple 2d graphics and its unique twist on basic platformer gameplay.

The pop-up book aesthetic is also pretty memorable in of itself. I always dug how the skyline looked like it was made from denim pants sewn together, and how the inside of the underground tunnel levels were made of colored newspaper clippings.

>>1699414
it was still pretty short

>>1699418

Not to mention that the game has 0 slowdowns, for example in the screenshot you posted, a swarm of shyguys fly by, that's a lot of shit going on at once and the game stays 60fps.

>>1699417
castlevania 64 was my first castlevania game so i actually got to judge it by its own merits. Symphony of the night is still better but 64s combat and plataforming is pretty unique, i never played a game quite like it again

>>1699030
Still need help with accessory suggestions. Anyone?

>>1699391
I guess nothing really pulled me in on it. I didn't really mean it was garbage, just nothing I find compelling in really anyway. Maybe I'll go back through and play it.

>>1699603
Mind you I'm not saying it's a masterpiece, it has its shortcomings, but it gets more hate than it deserves simply because of it being automatically compared to Yoshi's Island. And a lot of its good points get completely ignored because of it. I just wanted to point out those good things the game has.

>>1699832
The game always looked like a low budget chinese knock-off of a real game. The backgrounds are really nice, the music was great and then it's like you have all these .jpg images as sprites for everything.

>>1700181

The game looks fine to me, then again I only play it on my CRT TV, I agree screenshots of it looks weird, although it can also be because of the emulation, I remember the one time I tried to emulate it and it was awful.

>>1698194
>hidden gems
There really aren't any, all the most talked about games are the ones you wanna play.

Banjo Kazooie, OoT and Smash 64 are enough alone to warrant owning a N64. Also if you have any of your old GB and GBC pokemon games lying around, grab Stadium 1 or 2 and the adapter pak for one of the best pokemon experiences of your life.

>>1698194
No real hidden gems, you'll end up with fanboys telling you barely acceptable games are "hidden gems" like Beetle Racing and Buck Bumble, because they have had to scrape the bottom of the N64 septic tank to find something to justify their purchase. Nostalgia glasses off kids, the N64 is fucking awful.

>>1701252
So
Much
Fucking
This

>>1701252
>All the games listed ITT
>Barely playable

Grow the fuck up and make your own thread if you don't like what people are talking about in here.

>>1701269
Doesn't change the fact the system is fucking awful.

>>1701303
Do you honestly have the opinion that the RARE games are awful?

GoldenEye has aged awfully, I'll admit. Still fun though.

>>1701309
Most of the games on the N64 feel like unfinished tech demos. I think that's my biggest issue with the console and the games.

>>1701317
You can't honestly believe that about the N64 RARE games...

Which ones have you played and what didn't you like about them?

>>1701328
Rare games are perfectly fine, as are some of the first party titles. It's the closest anything released came to feeling like a full on finished and polished game. Everything else looks and plays like early beta or tech demo footage. Lack of detail on models, bland colors, washed out textures, basic shapes, fog to hide draw distance, weird physics, slow FPS, questionable sound and music.

>>1701335
Completely agree, just wanted to make sure you've actually played the RARE games.

CBF remains one of my favourite games.

>>1698194
Buy an N64 and get an everdrive or other flash cart.

Then just download all the good games...

>Mario Party 1-3
>Mario Kart 64
>Paper Mario
>Mario 64
>Gauntlet Legends
>Banjo Kazooie
>Banjoe Tooie
>Ocarina of Time
>Majora's Mask
>Dankey Kang 64
>Conker

... Yeah.. There aren't many "good" games for N64 honestly. Theres some shit thats kinda fun like Blast corps and body harvest, but they aren't what I would consider good.

People on here praise Hybrid Heaven and I looked at some videos and the wrestling system looked cool, so I bought it used. But it gets old fast. You wait for a meter to fill up to use a move, but it gets boring just avoiding the enemy for a while. I never totally figured out the wrestling system, I think it has something to do with how you are positioned relative to your opponent, but high kicks work well like about 80% of the time. When you're not wrestling you're running through repetitive corridors hitting switches and shooting small turrets.

All in all, the game is pretty mindless, and if you're going to spend your time playing a video game, you're better off playing something more engaging.

>>1701397
You missed a few gems:
Super Smash Bros.
F-Zero X
Sin and Punishment
Star Fox 64
Jet Force Gemini
WWF No Mercy
007 Goldeneye
Perfect Dark
Yoshi's Story
Ogre Battle 64
Paper Mario

Perfect Dark
Jet Force Gemini
Mystical Ninja Starring Goemon
Megaman 64

>>1701252
Nostalgia goggles off, Star Fox 64 remains one of the most impacting gaming experiences I ever had. Even in today's standards, fully voiced flight combat games are rare - and I haven't heard of any other of its kind with a comparable presentation.

>>1701443
Wow I take it you don't play many shooting games then

Games that are better than Starfox off the top of my head
Galaxy Force (1988)
Panzer Dragoon series
Rez

>>1701443
You have to forgive him, Ninten64kids don't get out of their comfort zone often.

>>1701317

I don't see how games like Mischief Makers, Goemon's Great Adventure, Sin and Punishment, Ogre battle 64 or Snowboard Kids 1 and 2 are "tech demos" but to each their own I guess.
I was an idort all my life and thoroughly enjoyed PS1 N64 and Saturn games during the 5th gen. I just think some of you can only appreciate what you played during your childhood, maybe if you had a N64 when you were a kid, you could appreciate it now, I don't know.
At any rate I'm sure you haven't played many N64 games if you think the only ones worth playing are the 1st party Nintendo games.

>>1701450
Close enough, but I was born in the 80s so just take the '64' out of the sentence and it's all good.
>>1701449
Skimming through all of these, it's very obvious that all of these games you listed (especially the first two) have equal-to-or-greater gameplay mechanics than SF64. GF specifically makes the original Starfox looks like complete shit (even though SF is good at doing that on its own.) But when I call SF64 one of my most impacting gaming experiences, the major deciding factor was its presentation.

When that game first came out, voice acting in video games were new to me, and a fully voiced, full fledged campaign was a really big deal to me. Not only was it a huge leap above its SNES predecessor but it's hands-down the sole title that immortalized the franchise. Also in my opinion, the way they distributed their graphics gives me the perception that the game aged really well for its time. I just have a lot of respect for the game in general. There's many that are better, but that wasn't the point I was trying to make in the first place.

Turok
Killer instinct 2
Mario kart
Majoras Mask
star fox

>>1701335

>Everything else looks and plays like early beta or tech demo footage. Lack of detail on models, bland colors, washed out textures, basic shapes, fog to hide draw distance, weird physics, slow FPS, questionable sound and music.

For some reason, I thought about Top Gear games on N64 when I read that, specially Hyper Bike. Moto Racer on PS and Manx TT/Hang On GP on Sat are way older and looked/played better than TGHB64.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3F5petnnhmk

didn't see this posted. i always thought it was a pretty fun game. seems similar to bomberman 64

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RpznKftfySM

>>1698194
A day late on this thread but Hydro Thunder is my favorite game of ALL time.

>>1699246
tbh Legacy of Darkness is better (albeit the hi-res mode is unplayable)

>>1701252
It's okay anon, we miss Crash and Spyro too

>>1701252
Why do you want to be the game police so bad? Just let people play whatever the fuck they want on whatever fucking system they want. If you don't like it, just ignore the threads.

>>1701858
Maybe he got sick of Nintendo fans spewing garbage like "Genesis music sounds like farts", "Saturn has no gaems", "the only consoles that matter are Nintendo" and decided to re-educate them.

>>1701881
Sounds like you miss the old flame wars. Most of us are above the boys argument until you get pointless people walking into legit N64 just to point out the faults of the system. The timing is completely unjustified. On another note, when was it ever an argument that the Saturn didn't have games? There were gems all over that system. I always wanted to play Astal again actually.

>>1701881
>Sounds like you miss the old flame wars. Most of us are above the ancient arguments until you get pointless people walking into legit N64 just to point out the faults of the system. The timing is completely unjustified and not to mention, there the board is capable of being much more productive.. On another note, when was it ever an argument that the Saturn didn't have games? There were gems all over that system. I always wanted to play Astal again actually.

>>1701881
Sounds like you miss the old flame wars. Most of us are above the ancient arguments until you get pointless people walking into legit N64 just to point out the faults of the system. The timing is completely unjustified and not to mention, there the board is capable of being much more productive.. On another note, when was it ever an argument that the Saturn didn't have games? There were gems all over that system. I always wanted to play Astal again actually.

>>1702023
I don't think you have been here very long if you've never seen a Genesis vs SNES flamewar

>>1702031
I seen them and understand why/when they are necessary and/or unavoidable.
>>1701252
is a case of dismissing the topic and proceeding to unwarranted flames. There's 're-education' and there's being a dick; and in this case, I really don't think it's the former.

>>1699017
>ISS 98
>Snowboarding games
>Duke Nukem 3D
>fucking Castlevania 64

Jesus having a N64 only at the times must have sucked ass if that makes it into the "reccomended" list.

>>1702103
It wasn't any worse than having a Wii U is now because of the obligatory first-party shit. Only back then, there was also Rareware.

The 64 did have a crappy third party history though. That's undeniable, but Snowboard Kids was pretty legit. Haven't played 1080 though.

>>1701698
I love this game and it's sequel only based on a couple rentals. cool platformer, I like how the the combat and puzzles all revolved around the tongue mechanic.

>>1702125
so far the first party games on the wiiu are more quality that what we had on the 64.

>you are now remembering how many times Zelda got delayed.

>>1701881

He's not bringing any solution. Also come on, most of us SHOULD be avobe the age of 18 here, we all SHOULD have a job, we all SHOULD afford playing all the systems we want. There's no reason for console war, especially not old console war.

>>1702125

I have a Wii U and I partially agree(despite holding Wonderful 101 as my personal GOTY 2013), mostly because I also have a gaming Pc so I will be able to play stuff like Witcher 3 and future interesting multiplat games, if they ever come out.

>>1702178

I guess Kamiya never had to actually pay for his rent/bills if he could buy consoles with the part-time job money.
That or part-time jobs in the 80' paid a lot.

>>1702191

Yeah, who knows. At any rate, I managed to be a 3-way idort back in the 90s when I was a kid with a PS1, N64 and Sega Saturn, and all I did was save money from birthdays, christmas, etc.
I was also a 4th gen semi-idort with Genesis and SNES (unfortunately never could get a TG-16fx).

Console war is for stupid people and kids.

>>1702178
considering the amount of time and money you have to put in to getting some of these games I think the wars will continue until both hardware and game piracy become easy and affordable

>>1702224

Of course, I'm not saying console war will ever cease, same way as stupid people never stop existing. But we should know better than that, especially considering we're talking about a console war from 20 years ago almost, and that we can easily emulate and/or buy (well, not so much anymore now with the retrofad of collectors, but N64 and PS1 used to be pretty cheap a few years back)

>>1701497
I have to admit, not many games can say that their entire script became a meme.

>>1698242
The most? Well of course depends on the game but personally I would never, ever go over $25 for anything in this day and age. The last game I paid for was a Bomberman game for $10.

>>1702232
honestly im glad when a game comes out in any system because i know someday i will be able to afford it or at least emulate it.
That being said im 100% pro companies competing against eachother, investing money in exclusive games that would otherwise not exist and pushing developers to make the games look as good as they can. I think consolewars are kind of part of it in a way i mean they do this stuff like anounce a new exclusive and they want to see forums explode with fan appreciation, if it wasnt for how invested some people get i dont think they would bother really

>>1698251
Yoshi's story is awful.

>>1699017
>Vigilante 8
>But not the sequel, Second Offense

Admittedly, the Dreamcast version is the good one, but still.

>>1702270
I think a lot of it has to do with the sheer longevity of the game. It's a short game and one of the few that really never gets old. I can honestly say that I beat the game dozens upon dozens of times throughout the late 90s. Who knows how many times it's been now. Every line just sticks with you. It's memetic in the literal sense of the word simply through sheer repitition. That's why I think "Do a barrell roll" became such a huge internet fad in 2004 or so, being a line you'll hear two or three times in one playthrough alone.

>>1698194
Mischief makers is the shit. I love that game with all my heart, shake shake!

>>1702103

ISS 98 was a really fun game, you should try it, 1080 was the start of cool snowboard games, so SSX owes to this and Tony Hawk (although I don't think it has aged well).
ALL of the THQ wrestlers (World Tour, Revenge, 2000, No Mercy) are awesome, especially if you have a few dudes to hit up for 4 person matches.

Glover and Mystical Ninja Starring Goemon are massively underappreciated

>>1699160
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