/vr/ - Retro Games

>>1697103
I prefer the remake
The job leveling system is boss

>>1697106
>job leveling in ffvi
wut

>>1697106
>I prefer the remake
PS1, GBA, or smartphone?

>>1697103
Fuck off

>>1697106
Oh my... You're not talking about the DS game are you?

>>1697128
This, Chrono Trigger has better combat

>>1697128
Chrono Trigger is overrated. FFVI however...

>>1697174
>press a to win is better than press a to win
lolwut

>>1697175
they're both really overrated, yet still great games

>>1697179
you're forgetting about the whole system where you could combine attacks

>>1697184
Everything is overrated by someone out there.

>>1697179
Everything is literally press a to win if you simplify it like that, dear anon.

As for FFVI, WoR and overpowered magic ruins it.

>>1697217
>world of ruin ruins it
y

>>1697226
I suppose I just wanted it to be more character driven? I'm not sure how to explain it. There's just almost no unique scene dialogue anymore for characters after you recruit them. When you go to recruit Terra, you get generic dialogue no matter who's in the party. After you recruit Terra and you go to recruit Locke, she has nothing to say.

I like character interaction and there's almost none of that in the WoR, so that's a major con for me. Even with that, FFVI is still one of my favorite FFs.

>>1697184
>you're forgetting that wholly useless gimmick
No. I'm not.

>>1697267
>i acknowledge and dislike a number of failings in this game but it is still one of my favourite games despite its shortcomings
Are you me? You would likely agree with everything I've said about the game in the FFVII thread >>1688634.

>>1697103
>the greatest RPG EVER MADE passing by
ftfy

>>1697128
I love chrono trigger, but its not as good as FFVI.

>>1697275
I read through the whole conversation and I mostly agree. If only FFVI was made later or SE was bold enough to remake the game with a substantial amount of script additions in the WoR. I don't think FFVI was really lacking in the character development, though. Character development isn't all about becoming a completely different person by the end of the story, it includes just revealing things about a character to better explain their motivations, too. Cyan's fear of machines isn't something to be overcome, it's just a little quirk that was added to his character to make him more human. Locke being smitten with Celes and wanting to protect her is explained through Rachel. Cyan writing those letters to the woman in Mobliz because he doesn't want her to feel the pain he felt, etc. I'm unfortunately all out of examples.

>>1697103
>>1697128
You both posted the wrong image.

Let me fix that.

>>1697103
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A5uQFviNoIc

>>1697103

This so much. I've loved FFVI/III since I was a kid and had such great memories with it. Every few years I get back into it on emulator or so. A few years back I bought the Super Nintendo cart for it and couldn't be happier. Played through it fully with a friend on ZSNES and might start speedrunning it soon. It never gets old and has such a great nostalgic feel to it like no other game for me in my life. It's like uncovering a treasure every single time I load it up :)

>>1697328

I've only played Lufia and The Fortress Of Doom (The Original Lufia) and I do also have fond memories of that game, wish I owned it but it's so expensive online. Doesn't hold a candle to FFVI.

>>1697184
I beg to differ. Both deserve all the praise they get. Chrono Trigger has better gameplay, while FFVI has a better villain.

>>1697319
Those were character insights, not character development.
Characters needn't do a 180° to develop. Certainly, that would be, aptly enough, /out of character/. Rather, keep their personality intact but allow them to progress beyond their shortcomings more than 'well this happened so now I'm fighting this thing and then that thing that happened is no longer relevant so we never have to bring it up again.'
Using the Lunar example for the third time, Ghaleon is the Big Bad in both versions. In the original, his motivation for his actions is never fully explained. It's barely even hinted at. Rather, he's just another power-hungry douche and little else.
In the remake, his character shows progression. He feels solace in his service to the Goddess. He feels despair and betrayal when the Goddess decides to let go of her divinity to allow humanity to live without her guidance. He feels a void with this lack of guidance for both himself and fellow man. Sociopathy kicks in and he decides to provide this guidance to himself and the rest of creation.
He sees his error. He develops regret for his actions. Finally, he achieves redemption.

That's how his character progressed. The only character to actually show emotional development through the events of FFVI is, much like Robo in CT, the one that was devoid of emotion for much of the story: Terra. And she doesn't do so anywhere near as intricately as the characters of Lunar did.

Overall, I like FFVI better than Lunar, but I like the characters and their development in Lunar far more.

I must admit, I do like Terra.

Yeah, I said it. SoM stomps Chrono Fantasy III any day.

Actual best SNES RPG stopping by.

>>1697434
Seconded

>>1697103
>>1697128
>>1697328
>>1697425
>>1697434
you all clicked on the wrong pic.

THIS is the greatest SNES/SUPER FAMICOM RPG.

>>1697450
>Not Romancing SaGa 2

>>1697450
Is that an english translation?

>>1697460
Yes, it is the only one of the SNES Romancing SaGa games in English. People stopped trying to do the first one after it had a PS2 remake that got released in English and AGTP is doing RS2

I've taken three separate files to the WoR over the course of about 12 years but never beaten it. Someday maybe...

>>1697382
I'm going to have to play Lunar one of these days.

>>1697450
I hate to admit it, but I can't take RS3 seriously because of its translation.

>>1697464
How long has AGTP been working on it? And now I've remember that SMT: If... is a thing, dammit.

I respectfully disagree with all of you.

>>1697474
It has been several years since it got a page in their web site

>>1697456
I really want to try out this game and the plot seem interesting enough. However, I can't understand Japanese.

>>1697482
I've never heard of that. How is it?

>>1697502
It's a port of a PC dungeon crawl with tons of awesomeness. Don't expect any normal JRPG stuff in this one.

>>1697304
what he said

1) Chrono Trigger
2) Final Fantasy III
3) Super Mario RPG
4) Final Fantasy II
5) EarthBound

>>1697103
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mhsacIcTHSE

>>1697482
I didn't even know this had an SNES port.

>>1697464
I saw that a ROM of Romancing Saga 3 was on Emuparadise, but it wasn't completed. If that one you posted earlier is completed, can you tell me where to find it, I really want to play the game!

>>1699082
It is mostly completed, it is perfectly beatable and you won't miss a thing

>>1698763

>knowing the glory that is Ogre Battle

>>1697484
AGTP in general: when normal groups pack up and go home due to problems, they just keep it up on their site and say "still in progress."

They do normally get through them and complete eventually, but sometimes it does literally take years.

>>1697482
Damn, I wasted so much time playing this on the SNES. I had notebooks of graph paper loaded with self-drawn maps for the dungeons.

My roomate recently bought Secret of Evermore. That game was really charming, but it lacked something, and I was never able to put my finger on it.

>>1697103
Here it is